From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Mon Dec 2 00:00:45 1996 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 00:00:06 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 30 Nov 1996 to 1 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 21:25:36 -0800 From: Christine Du Bois Subject: ten great cities for lesbians! A list humyn said: > > Now, about Austin. This issue of Girlfriends mag has an article about the top > > 10 most lesbian friendly cities in the United States. Guess what city is > > ranked number one? *AUSTIN.* Whadda coincidence. Janis said: > What are the other 9 cities? I hope Northampton MA is on that list. > Once again I wish I lived in Austin instead of Dallas.... :( Northampton wasn't a top ten inclusion, and Provincetown was actually mired in the bottom ten! Oh, what the hell? Here are the Top Ten Cities for Lesbians, according to Girlfriends magazine: 1) Austin, TX 2) Tampa, FL 3) Atlanta, GA 4) Kansas City, MO 5) Philadelphia, PA 6) Baltimore, MD 7) Columbia, SC 8) Columbus, OH 9) Buffalo, NY 10) Houston, TX Bright blessings, Christine who's beginning to think that she's a dyke (not bi-dyke) after all... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 01:57:58 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: 10 worst, World AIDS Day Regarding the best cities in the U.S. for lesbians, the worst cities, according to "The Wisconsin Light" newspaper, which lists Girlfriends magazine as its source are: Laguna Beach, CA Oak Park, IL Jackson, MS Charlottesville, VA P-Town, MA Mobile, AL Asbury Park, NJ Stamford, CN Aspen, CO Urbana, IL I think I took notice of these primarily because my hometown, Mobile AL, is among the ten worst. Having lived there for 18 of my 19 years, I can vouch for this one. Home of "America's Junior Miss," the "Azalea Trail Maids" (you saw them in the Macy's Day Parade- the ones in huge lacy pastel Southern Belle dresses) and the "good woman" (i.e. one who stays home with the kids and cooks steak and potatoes for her "man"), Mobile is *not* a friendly place for wimmin to be "un-ladylike." So where did I move? Ashland, WI- home of the Jaime Nabozny case... Perhaps you heard of it- while in school at Ashland High School (or was it Middle School??) Jaime, a gay man, was beat up, urinated on, and mock-raped multiple times by his male classmates. When he went to the administrators, they told him and his family that since he was gay, he would have to expect that, because "Boys will be boys." Jaime just settled the case out of court, receiving 900,000 dollars in compensation. I'm not having much luck finding queer-friendly cities. *************************************************************** Today (December 1) is World AIDS Day. As you go about your way, remember that approximately six people in the world are infected with HIV every minute.* Think of it in these terms- in the twenty minutes it takes to read your daily Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Digest, 120 people around the world have been infected by HIV. Try to think of the names of 120 people you love or are close to... then try to imagine how you would feel if even one of these people became infected with HIV. Unfortunately, many of us on the list already know how that feels. Today, remember someone who has died with AIDS. Then go celebrate life with someone who is living with HIV/AIDS. Mother Jones (1830-1930, United Mine Worker and labor organiser) once said, "Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living." One of the best ways to fight like hell is to educate. Help be a cure for HIV/AIDS. Learn all that you can about HIV/AIDS, then tell someone else. *Centers for Disease Control, 6/94 -The Body: http://www.thebody.com -Gay Men's Health Crisis: http://www.gmhc.com -Center for Disease Control AIDS Clearinghouse: http://www.cdcnac.org/ -NAMES Project (parent organisation of the AIDS Memorial Quilt): http://www.aidsquilt.org -National AIDS Hotiline(CDC): 1-800-342-2437 TTY/TDD: 1-800-243-7889 -National Teen AIDS Hotline: 1-800-234-TEEN -Gay Men s Health Crisis Hotline: (212) 807-6655 TTY/TDD: (212) 645-7470 -ACT-UP: [email protected] mary h. http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/1827/aids/html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 14:45:40 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: World Aids Day Hello everybody, Today I feel like many people feel I think. It's world aids day (1st of december) and it's an important day. Let's stick together in the battle against aids. Remember all the people who suffer from aids or being HIV infected! Let's remember the people who died of aids in the past also! I think it's good we have a day like today on wich we can actually show together that we think about you! I got a package from a listmember with Queen tapes I requested and ironically enough I got them Yesterday. We will never forget you, Freddy! <<< Love of my life , can't you see.......don't leave me..... Bring me back, bring me back, don't leave me............. >>> It's really strange listening to a voice of somebody with such an impact on the world on a day like this one. I don't know how I can explain my feelings but I hope nobody is angry I posted this mail. Just felt to let you know....... Take care! Marcel. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 10:36:25 EST From: Christel Cogneau <[email protected]> Subject: NMEC : Ani DiFranco in Belgium/Bootlegs Hello Everybody, Ani DiFranco will be in Brussels on the 16th of December and I was wondering if people from belgium who are on the list are going to see her. I know she has been touring recently in the US and I would like to know if somebody out there had a bootleg of one of her concert. If so, I'd like to get it and maybe I can trade with some MLE bootlegs or other stuff. Thanks a lot, Christel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 11:03:21 -0500 From: Kelly Doyle Subject: Lyrics for "The Letter U" Here are the lyrics for "The Letter U" that Melissa did for Sesame Street: Is it so hard To Understand I love U 'Cause no other letter Looks and sounds like U do Oh I love your "uh" sound And have I ever told U That I'd be Upset If U left the alphabet That's why I hold U Hold U Like I do U stand for Understanding For Up and Undemanding And you stand for Underwear For Ugly and Unfair And I don't know any letter Who makes the "uh" sound better Than the letter U I love the "uh" sound Of the letter U Ooh and I want the "uh" sound Of the letter U Oh I need the "uh" sound Of the letter U That's why I ache That's why I ache I ache Oh I ache Just to hold U Hold U Like I do No one else begins Uptown No one starts off Upside-down No one else begins Unable, Uncertain or Unstable No one else can spell a A neat word like Umbrella Like the way U do Like the way U do Nobody makes the "uh" sound Like the way U do Oh gimme that "uh" sound C'mon Like the way U do Like the way U do Like the way U do ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 11:58:37 -0500 From: "Deborah D. Jones" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 29 Nov 1996 to 30 Nov 1996 Just wanted to wish all my fellow ME fans Happy Holidays from Delaware! Deb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 12:09:48 -0500 From: "Deborah D. Jones" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 29 Nov 1996 to 30 Nov 1996 Hello, Everyone. I'm looking for a copy of 'No Guarantee'. Does it exist anywhere? I LOVE that song. I would appreciate any help. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 12:45:31 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: VH-1 Storytellers Did anyone tape this show or know if it's going to be re-run? If anyone has a tape, would you be willing to dub it for me? I'll send a tape, postage, whatever! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 13:57:23 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: lefties Melissa is a rightie. She has signed autographs for myself and my nephew. the pen is in the right hand. Francie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 11:38:44 -0800 From: edgy Subject: shanks on leah andreone cd I don't remember what was said about the Leah Andreone cd "Veiled" (apologies if this is a repeat) but John Shanks appears on the cd. Allison [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 16:31:12 -0500 From: Anne Haines Subject: MLE, songwriters, pants Couple of amusing notes from my Turkey-day travels... I was driving in lower Michigan (I think I was going north on M-60 in the vicinity of Cassopolis, if anybody cares) and did a double take when I saw this *HUGE* sign that said MLE in big letters. Then I noticed that below the MLE it said "Michigan Livestock Exchange." Hee! I was lucky enough to go to Windham Hill's "Winter Solstice Concert" in Kalamazoo, Michigan over the weekend. Tuck & Patti did one song which was introduced as being written by 4 people (including Jim Carrey[sp?], the actor, who evidently is also a songwriter) and one of the names mentioned was John Shanks. Anybody know for sure if this is the same John Shanks? The song is on the one Tuck & Patti CD I don't have, I guess, so I don't know the title for sure-- might be something like "Let's Bring Heaven Down Here." Very nice song. Totally NMEC, Mom and I were in a consignment shop (her big hobby-- she loves going to consignment shops & thrift shops) and I found, of all things, a pair of black leather pants. In more or less my size (which is pretty amazing since I'm 5'1" and rather not skinny). For $7.50. Yes, they came home with me. Where in the world I will ever *wear* black leather pants, I have absolutely no idea-- I told Mom the only occasion I could imagine wearing them was to a Melissa concert and she won't be back here for quite a while! I hope everyone who may have been traveling this weekend arrives where they're going safe and sound. Cheers and turkey sandwiches, Anne in Indiana "No one else can spell a / A neat word like umbrella / Like the way U do" - Melissa Etheridge, getting all passionate about the letter U (Sesame Street 11-21-96) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~ahaines ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 21:04:40 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: 10 worst, World AIDS Day In a message dated 12/1/96 2:00:27 AM, [email protected] (mary harbaugh) wrote: <> I tend to differ with P-town, MA. I have been there many times and it is a very welcoming place for lesbians and lesbian owned businesses. It just depends on what week you are visting and the experience. I seen many people get really spooked being in P-town their first time. It all those old spirits that just won't stop having fun!! As for the other places on the list, I really con't say. I been through Stamford and didn't really notice. As for Asbury Park, there isn't a hell of alot going on there anyway except Bruce Springsteen doing benefits to help urban growth in the city. The motels and hotels along the beach are deserted and abandoned. And the downtown strip is just as bad! It is ashame to desert a beach resort that has had its heyday. Francie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 21:25:53 -0500 From: Carole Ann Cartier Subject: About those towns... Hey all... Thought I'd delurk for a moment ... I agree with Francie...that P-town is a very welcoming place for lesbians and lesbian owned businesses. It has always been my experience while enjoying the "element" that the town is a very lesbian friendly zone!! I also agree that it is more so during certain times of the year...like womens week...for example. A very FUN place indeed...very quaint...very artistic...and JUST RIGHT! If anyone wants to spend time in P-town and wants a really NICE place to stay...the White Horse Inn on Commercial Street is the perfect place. They have "suites" there that are like little apartments that have separate entrances... the "rents" are relatively cheap ...and its just wonderful with its view of the ocean. Anyway...its MY favorite place and hopefully it will become one of yours too. As for the other places on the list, I too have been throughStamford (while living in NY state) and did notice that many of the people I came in contact with were a bit on the homophobic side. Hartford, on the other hand was quite the opposite. As for Asbury Park, (NJ) I agree, there isn't a hell of alot going on there. Bruce Springsteen used to hang at the STONE PONY ... BUT there was a bar right across the street called THE OWL AND THE PUSSYCAT that was frequented by many more lesbians than the town of Asbury park could handle!! The place was a real rat trap...a true dive! Not many good words to say about the place except it was a place in NJ to go! Don't know whether it still exists or not. By now, it should have been condemned! But anyway...it was a bit frightening to go there knowing of the incidents of bashing that occurred there (just outside the bar or in the parking area between the Stone Pony and the Owl)...most unreported. The place used to be nicknamed "the death bar"...for one reason or another....none of which were amusing. Anyway...just my words of experience...don't know much about the other towns listed...but heard on one of Melissa's bootleged tapes of the Biloxi Concert ('94 ?) that there were an awful lot of non-homophobic Melissa followers from Mobile Alabama. What can I say...eh?? Take care all...hope your Thanksgiving Day was filled with love and stuffing!! CA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 20:52:01 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Pronouncing M.E.I.N.: Mean, Mine, Main How to pronounce 'it' has been the subject of conversation in the last few months, everyone having their own opinion....Check out the new welcome file by Melissa, at the M.E.I.N. home page....Melissa pronounces it MINE... Glad to have helped!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- [email protected] Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same A persons greatest emotional need is to feel appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 20:44:16 -0600 From: Jill & Laurel Subject: Houston concert It has taken me almost two weeks to come down off of my cloud after seeing Melissa, and all I can say is...Y-E-E-H-A-W ! ! ! (That was *just* for you Renee, even tho we don't say that here in Texas...but I'm not originally *from* Texas ;-) ). Anyway, what an amazing performance! Here's how it went, from my POV, at the Houston show. Laurel valet parked at The Summit, and she and Angela were escorted through the back stage where Melissa's dressing room was, and where the crew had just finished eating. This was because Angela just had knee surgery, and had to hobble on crutches, so she got a little VIP treatment. ;-) So...we arrived, donning our purple shirts, and began to scan the crowd. We had 7th row center floor seats, obtained with a little luck from TM. But, I pretty much abandoned our little group right from the start, and bolted to the front to meet some other listers...Diane and Karen, (wearing purple shirts), Dan, Loretta, and some other people who did the Texas tour. As the lights went out, I happened to be standing in the first row as ME came onto the stage. I was paralyzed, and knew that I would *never* make it back to the 7th row. (No, 7th row was just *not* good enough for me!! ) Then, after the first two songs, someone came over to claim their seat, so I merely moved to the center aisle, about two rows back. Security didn't seem to have much of a problem with this, (as long as I didn't block the aisle), so, I stayed there for the rest of the set at the main stage. Oh, I was directly in line from Melissa when she did her *thing* with the guitar during SL. Woohooo!!! Fashion report...black leather pants, silver shiny shirt with black swirls, over a black t-shirt. On this night in Texas, Melissa had on her black Dr. Martens. Guess she didn't expect to be wearing a cowboy hat during SP, that someone had thrown on stage, or she may have decided to go with the cowboy boots, like she did in Austin and Dallas. (She even acquired somewhat of a Texas accent with that hat on, but she never said, "yeehaw," once...imagine that ;-) ). When ICHBY began to play, I made my way back to the small stage, only to find that it was pretty crowded. I got close enough, (maybe about 15 feet away from her mic stand), to see Melissa's *dental* work during NS, AAG, and ATWTH. (She did not do AIH or YIA). The other two songs, (Resist and LMG), she sang from the other side of the stage. While at the small stage, I tried *really* hard to get a pick...I even brought my own, and asked John to trade me for one of his. He looked at me and just smiled, but I think he was a little pre-occupied watching this girl, close by, unbuttoning her shirt. He gave away 5 picks, but I didn't get one. I missed getting Kenny's drum stick by five people away, and Melissa's pick by three people away. AARRRGGHH!!! (Way to go Patti, on getting Melissa's pick in Austin.) At this point, I went over to row 7 to say a quick hello to everyone, then continued on to the front. I decided to stand behind the first row of chairs, dead center, in line with Melissa's mic. The crowd had already moved to the stage, but I decided that the view from here was *much* better than standing squashed up to the stage. I was in heaven. I stood on my chair a couple of times to turn around to see Laurel, Ang, Terri, and Jonti. Then, as I stood on my chair alone...(the rest of the crowd on the floor), Melissa looked *right* at me, giving the peace sign, and sang the line..."This war is over, I'm coming home." Angie nearly fell over, when she saw Melissa singing to me! It was pretty cool. I didn't get to shake her hand, because there were too many people crunched up there. The girl who had unbuttoned her shirt earlier, was now trying to climb onto the stage in nothing but her bra...(I think she threw her shirt on the stage). She grabbed Melissa's leg, and then security pulled her off. Melissa didn't miss a beat, tho. The show ended, and the crowd dispersed. We hung around the stage for awhile, and I was determined to get something ... maybe hoping to find a set list. Instead, I was handed one of Melissa's cups of water, (off of the drum platform), that she had been drinking from. I guess they heard how we *love* our water here in Houston ;-) . I passed the cup around to our group, and we all had a sip. One of the guys in the crew also handed me a pick...one of those with Melissa's sig on one side, and the logo on the other. I was happy now. So, that is my story. We left via the backstage door, past the dressing room, hoping to see anyone from the band, but, no such luck. Now, I wish that I had made it to the other Texas concerts...or at least to Dallas, because I heard that that was the best of the three Texas shows. Guess it'll be a looong time until we experience one of her live performances again. Oh well, I'll just keep replaying it over and over in my mind. :-)))))) Okay, back to lurkdom. (Hey Diane, did you get any good pictures?? How about a trade? Or Patti?? E-mail me). Jill (& Laurel) ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 30 Nov 1996 to 1 Dec 1996 ************************************************* From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Tue Dec 3 00:00:45 1996 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:00:06 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 1 Dec 1996 to 2 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 00:58:59 -0700 From: VERONICA FRESCAS Subject: El Paso Concert Hey folks! As i read the entries regarding past concerts i've noticed that no one has mentioned anything about Mel's concert in El Paso last week. Could it be that there's no on this list from the tip of Texas? It goes without saying that Melissa rocked--for three hours! It was a great intimate concert with all 3,000 of us screaming fans. The kicker was when she sang the last few verses of "Nowhere to go" in what she dubbed a "world premier" in Spanish. She drove the crowd wild. i for one had no idea she had released that particular song in Spanish--needless to say i'm going to run out and buy as soon as some cash flow comes in. That's it for my concert report from "Out in the west Texas town of El Paso." Ciao! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 08:11:03 -0500 From: Toni Robinson Subject: No MEC - Cities & Tracy >From: mary harbaugh >So where did I move? Ashland, WI- home of the Jaime Nabozny case... >Perhaps you heard of it- while in school at Ashland High School (or was >it Middle School??) Jaime, a gay man, was beat up, urinated on, and >mock-raped multiple times by his male classmates. When he went to the >administrators, they told him and his family that since he was gay, he >would have to expect that, because "Boys will be boys." >Jaime just settled the case out of court, receiving 900,000 dollars in >compensation. Unbelievable. I hadn't heard this story..I hope the administrators were fired! Thank you everyone for posting the top 10 cities..no big suprise that there weren't any VA cities listed. Totally off the wall question for you Tracy Chapman die-hard fans out there... Can anyone tell me the origin/story behind the song 'For My Lover'? Surely there must be an interesting story in there.. Please email me if you know! Victoria and I have wondered about this for ages. Hope everyone who had one had a great Thanksgiving! Toni ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 10:32:07 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Sacramento Tickets (fwd) Please contact [email protected] if you're interested in the tickets referenced below. -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 11:22:48 -0800 From: jeff and kristine spitzer To: [email protected] Subject: TIX hello Deb~ my name is Kristine and i have a slight problem maybe you can help me with..........i have 2 very good seats to ME's concert in Sacramento at Arco Arena on Dec 18.......i may need to sell them..for face value of course and i will need to get in touch with others who want to see this live performance........my e-mail is [email protected] for your help. Kristine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 10:38:42 -0500 From: Subject: Lights in the last concert Well, since she sang the words to the letter U to the tune of LTWID, perhaps it would work better to show the signs/lit words/whatever, while and or after she does LTWID. It is her first encore, usually sung afte YLS. I wonder what she would think if she came out on stage (in a darkened arena, of course) with that sign glowing in the dark. I think it might just catch her attention... Take care, SueD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:31:37 -0500 From: "D. Jessamyn Scott Breed" Subject: LAst show/Necklaces::Update #2 Hey All! There have been several wonderful suggestions made about how to pull off our gift to Melissa at the last concert. Several folks have pointed out that ATWTH is performed at the small stage and thus, it might not be the most opportune time to try to reveal the letters. Instead, presenting the letters, as SueD (who will *be there*) mightily put it: "in the darkened arena, as she comes on to do the encore of LTWID (fits in nicely with the "U" punning)...it just might catch her attention!" Can you picture it???? I can!!! Thanks also to the bunches of you who also suggested to present the message sometime during LTWID. Seems like the plan!!!!!!! Also, those of you who indicated that you will be there, I will put you in touch with SueD so we can start solidifying logisitics! -=-=-=-=- As far as news on the necklaces... SueD also pointed out that the necklaces have to be "cracked" to light up and that this might be difficult to do if the letters are preassembled. I agree that this might be a problem depending upon the size of the letters. If they are not too big, the person in each section in charge of the letter might have enough time to do it before the band returns to encore. Sue's *other* suggestion, however, might be even more fitting.. Why not try to spell out the letters in battery-operated Xmas lights (I did not even know these existed but given the Season, I might have more luck finding them than I have so for the GITD Necklaces =} I think it is a great idea. And also, when I first pictured it, I imagined getting the letters pretty big so that we could display them around the arena at about 1st-tier level...but perhaps, in the interest of time and moolah, we might keep the letters to a manageable size and try to display them relatively close to the stage (all those Travel Package & MEIN folks, are you up for something like this?) Anyways, Sue has graciously offered to hunt her area for those battery operated lights...I will do the same here, although they can be assembled anywhere just as long as they wind up front and center => Those of you who offered to be sponsors, please hang in there and between me and Sue, we'll let you know what the next step is! Cheers Listers! Thanks to everyone who loves her LTWID!!!!! More soon, Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:34:17 -0500 From: Mary Fiedorczyk Subject: "Loves No Guarantee"...got it! Goodmorning,all!!! To Deb who wanted to know if it exhisted, yes it does and I have it on a bootleg. It's an accoustical, and I agree it's a great song! If you haven't gotten it yet, let me know! I've spent the weekend working on my ME collection. ..anorginizer I'm not, and have bits and pieces of video and audio all over the place..house, car.work..but have made great progress! ! I also have "Storytellers" as well as some older video clips I found I forgot about and was thrilled to find and watch again! Ummmm..the Concert For Thr Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.....the way she was moving on the stage..ok..change the subject..getting tooooo excited here! I found the list of lesbian friendly cities interesting! I'll hang onto that for future referance! Thanks! Well, off to a cold shower...ME overload the last few days! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 19:40:07 -0800 From: Tim Dunker Subject: John Shanks songwriter ----------------------------- Hi there, Anne Haines wrote on Dec. 1st: >Tuck & Patti did one song which was introduced as being written by 4 people >(including Jim Carrey[sp?], the actor, who evidently is also a songwriter) >and one of the names mentioned was John Shanks. Anybody know for sure if >this is the same John Shanks? I don`t know if John wrote this song but he writes many and so I would guess that this is the same John Shanks. Once he told me a very neat storry from the Woodstock Festival. He wrote that song for Joe Cocker and Cocker put it on one of his CD`s and when he ran into Joe`s manager during the festival he talked to him and asked him what Cocker thought of his song. The manager was like: "uhh, you are John Shanks, you must meet Joe !!" John told me that he was so excited when this guy "pulled" him to Joe Cockers dressing room. Joe must have been very nice and happy to meet John and be able to thank him in person for his job on that song. He told John that he was going to play that song during his show and if he would like to be next to the stage when he performs. It must have been a great moment for John because Joe Cocker pulled him onto the stage while he and his band played the song John wrote. John said that he had in this moment tears in his eyes while he stood right next to the singing Joe Cocker, infront of this huge audience. This song is on one of Cocker`s albums but I don`t remember the name. We still need the adress of a Lister who is willing to help for the LA-show. Bye, bye Tim Dunker (Only six more days to go !!!!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 12:54:43 -0500 From: Tanja Wodrich <[email protected]> Subject: "Yes I am"... a verry big fan Hi all, I'm a new member of this M.E. mailing list (about 4 weeks). OK, almost new. But in this short time I have enclosed all of you in my heard. Every day I look forward to translating the DIGEST. It is also a little bit difficult for me to read all the sites , because English is not my native language.So please ignor my faults or better correct it (only privately) ********** Hi Patty, >>2 . What CD single has Melissa singing with Brian Adams? I don't know what's gone wrong with my first mail. So once again. The new CD of Brian Adams called STAR. There are 4 tracks on it. "It�s only love" is the song with Melissa. The CD is from A&G Records /582027-2/LC0485. So buy and enjoy it :-) Special thanks to Kiva who has given me the courage to write my first mail (but not my last.. I hope so..) to this wonderful list. I always need a little kick to do something. So that`s enough for today. Back to translate the DIGEST. Take care all Tanja (with much help from my gf Sabine) [email protected] ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 16:06:07 -0700 From: alexis Subject: MLE in Albuquerque I haven't seen any concert reviews of the albuquerque show, but I didn't go through my digests thoroughly, so my apologies if the following is redundant. It's a little long, so feel free to skip it. She came out and sang a song (can't remember which)...oh yeah, the one with the mango line. Then she mentioned how it was a special night (being that it was Thanksgiving Eve) and that it felt more like a Friday night than a Wednesday night...probably because nobody worked the following day...unless you work at a 7-Eleven...then she apologized to those who fell into that category. Then she told the crowd about how she was talking to a local DJ before the show and that he went to school with her, and he brought his old yearbook for her to sign. She went on and on, and was telling Shanks that even he hasn't seen that picture (9th grade, I think), so he asked the guy (his name was Mark) to come up to the stage, if he could, and bring up the yearbook. Seconds later, he brings the yearbook to her, and she shows Shanks, and he starts cracking up. The camera guys got a close-up of the picture, so the whole crowd could see it too. (She's gotten MUCH better looking). Here's my favorite part: She mentioned that she had signed his yearbook(back then) with some cheesey line and how she remembered having a crush on him, and then she said that maybe he had something to do with how she is now! That cracked my ass up!! Let's see....what else...oh, she said "okay...true story..." then proceeded to tell the crowd how she remembered Albuquerque from way back then when she was headed for LA from Leavenworth. One of her stops was in ABQ, and that she asked where she could find a happening club, and when she got there, it just wasn't the kind of club she had in mind, and a lady bartender went up to her and said "you don't look like you want to be here...let me tell you where you want to be" After the crowd stops yelling and screaming from the goofy grin she had on her face, she said that she was given directions to go down some road until you see a place with no signs...just a blue light over the door. Crowd goes wild again, and she says "So you see, Albuquerque, I remember you guys all the time when I'm writing" I personally didn't believe her. How many other cities has she told that story to? She also mentioned the restaurant behind the bowling alley where they served the best Mexican food. She sang the last verse of Nowhere to Go in Spanish, as she did at the Las Cruces show. She did a good job..I was impressed. I think that's about it as far as her in-between-songs chatting goes. I did happen to obtain a Melissa pick. I haven't seen anyone mention this one, but the one I have has Melissa written on one side, but it's in kids' writing, and the E is backwards, and on the other side is a stork with his wings spread with a package in his beak. Perhaps on his way to deliver a baby. ;) Wanna know how I got the pick? See, what happened was, I flashed her my breasts whilst at the front of the stage, and she was so stunned because surely she's never seen anything like them, that she dropped her pick (dropped her guitar too, but I couldn't snatch that one), fell over backwards, and took a 30-minute intermission so as to gain composure once again. Okay, so maybe the last paragraph was a figment of my imagination, but everything beforehand is true from what I can remember. Unfortunately, she didn't have any ME Turkeys for sale, but a good time was had regardless. alex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:33:43 -0500 From: Karen Di Donato Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 30 Nov 1996 to 1 Dec 1996 Christine Du Bois wrote: >Northampton wasn't a top ten inclusion, and Provincetown was actually mired >in the bottom ten! Oh, what the hell? Here are the Top Ten Cities for >Lesbians, according to Girlfriends magazine: > >1) Austin, TX >2) Tampa, FL >3) Atlanta, GA >4) Kansas City, MO >5) Philadelphia, PA >6) Baltimore, MD >7) Columbia, SC >8) Columbus, OH >9) Buffalo, NY >10) Houston, TX Well if Northampton and P.town weren't on the list, then get me the HELL to Austin! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Despite the cost of living, it continues to remain popular. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:36:04 -0500 From: Michael Bunch Subject: LEGENDS: Janis Joplin (NMEC) Hi All, Well the VH-1 "Legends" series kicked off with a show about Janis Joplin, narrated by Kris Kristoferson. Besides the narration by Kristoferson, Janis' sister Laura read from letters by Janis which was kind of interesting. These were some of the same letters from which she wrote her book. Many of the clips were from the film, "Janis" and no song was sung completely through which was disappointing. But I did enjoy the clips from that Railroad Tour with the Grateful Dead and others across Canada. There were alot of still photos and a few sound clips but nothing extraordinary and much was stuff I had seen before. Although nicely put together it just made me wonder what VH-1 could really find if they dug deeper into that archive of theirs. I've always wanted to see that German TV concert she did in 1970. Anyway, between this show and the three "Archive" shows VH-1 aired of her with Dick Cavett before, I'm quite happy to have filled up almost two hours of commercial-free Janis video. Thank You VH-1!!!!! Michael :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 22:10:59 -0500 From: "christine: queen o' stresshampton" Subject: just my 2 cents on the towns I thought I would de-lurk (breaking my year-long vow of silence) to defend the lovely town I live in and wonder aloud: "WHAT?! Northampton, Lesbianville, is not on the list? And P-Town is on the Worst List?" I am a resident of Northampton, a transfer from Muskogee, OK (yuck), and I think that this is a very great place to live...ME even played in Amherst, a free bus ride away, earlier this year. And I know that P-Town lesbians have gotten a lot of slack from the gay men who consider P-Town their turf (accordingto an Advocate magazine report a few years back), but I just vacationed there and would have to agree that it's a great place to be "obvious" in. Have a great dayy, back to lurking *christine* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 22:35:27 -0800 From: Randy Subject: NMEC: Dance fever, birthday suits, plans to stay in DC I'd like to know who's going to DC this weekend to help one of our listers celebrate a birthday...(hi Beth!) please e-mail me so we can co-ordinate our staying over plans with Gwen and friends...yes Gwen, I let the cat out of the bag myself! -- [email protected] Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr A persons greatest emotional need is to feel appreciated. ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 1 Dec 1996 to 2 Dec 1996 ************************************************ From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Wed Dec 4 00:00:43 1996 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:00:03 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 2 Dec 1996 to 3 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 00:06:32 -0500 From: Debbie Henry Subject: Lefties/ex-lefties All these lefties stories are getting to me-so I will share my own 'lefty' story. Apparently I was born left handed or was developing lefthandedness as a preschooler. My parents both insisted that I not use my left hand. I didn't understand why- I thought that they considered my left hand to be something bad. (I was glad they did ignore me using my left foot.) Anyway, their strategy worked and by kindergarten I was right handed. Learning to print & write was very difficult and my handwriting was very messy. It never seemed to occur to the adults that the reason I was having so much difficulty was because they had made me change hands. My younger sibblings had it easier. They only tried to influence my brother by putting everything in his right hand- he dutifully held things in his right hand but only used what was in his left hand. By the time my youngest sisters were born my parents had made a complete turn around and were excited to have another one be left-handed! I still write and do most tasks right-handed and I have been thinking about what might happen if I were to change back. Would I be able to maybe draw like my sister, or just feel better? Could I even really change back as an adult? Have any of you other ex-lefties thought of changing back? Debbie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 22:42:23 -0800 From: Christine Du Bois Subject: in defense of Northampton Christine said: > I thought I would de-lurk (breaking my year-long vow of silence) to defend > the lovely town I live in and wonder aloud: "WHAT?! Northampton, Lesbianville, > is not on the list? And P-Town is on the Worst List?" > I am a resident of Northampton, a transfer from Muskogee, OK (yuck), and I > think that this is a very great place to live...ME even played in Amherst, a > free bus ride away, earlier this year. And I know that P-Town lesbians have > gotten a lot of slack from the gay men who consider P-Town their turf > (accordingto an Advocate magazine report a few years back), but I just > vacationed there and would have to agree that it's a great place to be "obvious" in. Although I have actually never visited P-Town, I've heard that it's very gay *and* lesbian-friendly, cozy and cushy. Ignore that Advocate article, I say! :-) As for Northampton, I was totally shocked that it wasn't included in the Top Ten!! I think it landed around #25 or so, where Seattle happened to be (which I mention 'cause I live there!). It is an absolutely great town. My only complaint, so to speak, is that it's not located near water. Nevertheless, it's a niche that really embraces its lesbians and all broad-minded, educated people! Also, any town that bottomed out wasn't necessarily "bad." There wasn't any criteria cited for the list, but for some reason I didn't assume that those towns were "unlivable" in any way. They had just toppled from previous glory. . .perhaps the lesbian population had plummeted? Christine #2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 01:39:42 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: MLE in Albuquerque Alex (whose name I haven't seen in a long time) wrote: >Wanna know how I got the pick? > See, what happened was, I flashed her my breasts whilst at the >front of the stage, and she was so stunned because surely she's never seen >anything like them, that she dropped her pick (dropped her guitar too, >but I couldn't snatch that one), fell over backwards, and took a >30-minute intermission so as to gain composure once again. > Okay, so maybe the last paragraph was a figment of my >imagination, ROTFLMAO!!!!! Hey, you never did tell us how you *really* got that pick. Michelle "Did I say it doesn't rip me apart I lied I'm sorry dear my hands are tied" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:15:26 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Tacoma show pre-gathering... Before the Tacoma show a few of us will be meeting at a place in Federal Way for dinner/drinks. If anyone else wants to join in we'd love to have more. The place we are going is Billy McHales. It's close to I-5, easy to find & not too far from Tacoma. They also have great food & drinks. We had 20 people for a pre-concert party last week & it was great. They can set up tables for a large party if needed & it's just a quick ride down the freeway to the concert. If you plan to attend, please e-mail me privately & let me know how many people you will be bringing. We want to have plenty of seats. I can also provide directions for anyone not familiar with the place. I know some people might have to work that day but I'd advise getting there around 4:30-5:00. I know people will be anxious to get down to the T-Dome early to find out what the MEIN ticket lottery has in store for them. Did I mention this place has 31 different kinds or margaritas? :) Hope to see many of you before the show! Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 08:18:46 -0800 From: Jacky Abromitis Subject: NMEC: Ptown, rating of towns A friend of mine sent me that list from Girlfriends magazine. All I can say is WHAT A CROCK! My girlfriend noted that the only criteria must have been cost of living since the top towns all had average apartment rentals at $400. Ptown is VERY much a lesbian town. I absolutely love it there. I found it to be very much a mix of women and men--far more so than Key West, which was way more male oriented. (Btw, thanks to everyone who sent me info on Key West; we had an **excellent** vacation there!) Btw, my girlfriend (also a list member) lives in Stamford, CT, which was rated *very* low on the Girlfriends list. Again, that can only be because of cost of living. While there isn't much of a gay community there, there are some things in the Stamford area, including Westchester County, NY and NYC itself--less than an hour away. -- Jacky http://www.world2u.com/~thunder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 10:05:37 -0500 From: Deb Subject: "No Guarantee" On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Deborah D. Jones wrote: > I'm looking for a copy of 'No Guarantee'. Does it exist anywhere? I LOVE > that song. If you don't already have it, how do you know of it? Are you one of the lucky few who saw her in the early days? That song is on the "Being Sensitive" bootleg CD if you can find it. -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ________________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: September 67, LUCKY SHOE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 09:45:02 -0500 From: "Eidel Lisa Consultant (Temp)" Subject: Tanja wrote: >The new CD of Brian Adams called STAR. There are 4 tracks on it. >"Its only love" is the song with Melissa. >The CD is from A&G Records /582027-2/LC0485. Does anyone know if this is available in the US yet? Thanks. Lisa E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 10:59:43 -0500 From: "Julie I. Lebaillif" Subject: Rosie's show Do any of you faithful Rosie watchers know if I missed the show with Tom Cruise?? I set my VCR for PM instead of AM yesterday, so I didn't get the show. Thanks, Julie (& Olivier) "I'm feeling kind of loose, I'm feeling kinda mean, been feeling kinda wild since I turned seventeen" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 11:02:55 EST From: Natalie Green Subject: Bryan Adams - Star >The new CD of Brian Adams called STAR. There are 4 tracks on it. >"Its only love" is the song with Melissa. >The CD is from A&G Records /582027-2/LC0485. Does anyone know if this is available in the US yet? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I found the single at a semi-local record store in NJ. It was an import and the store charged $9.99 for it. Good luck finding it! Donna College of Engineering, Rutgers University New Brunswick, NJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 11:38:25 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: Re: Lefties/ex-lefties Here's my lefty story: When I was in first grade, I broke my left wrist. The cast went over my hand, so I couldn't write with my left hand. I learned to write right-handed and got fairly good at it. I don't know if I can do that anymore, but I do have some amount of facility in my right hand - I can eat with chopsticks righty, and I've never had any trouble handling a mouse. -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) [email protected] http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:08:29 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: The skinny Okay... for those listers who are planning to attend the dance this Sat. (12/7) in D.C., here's the skinny: It's being held at the Arizona Grille, 1211 Connecticut Ave. NW (lower level of the bldg.) It's on Conn. Ave. two blocks south of Dupont Circle. Doors open at 9:00PM. There is a $10 cover. The first 250 women receive a free surprise gift. (I suggested Polaroids with the birthday girl in her birthday suit. Okay with you Beth?) I've been asked whether women under 21 yrs. old can attend and I'm still checking. I should have a definite answer by tomorrow so if you'd like to know, pls. email me privately. Gwen Travolta :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 12:17:28 EST From: "Diane M. Brundige" Subject: Lefties Okay, I held off long enough on this thread... While in 1st grade learning to write, I couldn't see where I was writing with my right hand. I would write off the line, a little slanted. I thought, "golly, I wish I could see where I'm going. I bet if I use my left hand...." You guessed it, I'm a righty-turned-lefty, MY CHOICE!!! My mother is the opposite, going through Catholic schools as others has reported. I write and eat left handed (although, for anyone who has seen my handwriting can attest, I don't write very clearly, all Fs in Handwriting on my report cards). I play softball right handed. Tennis, I'm right handed but Ping-Pong, I'm lefty. Basketball, I'm ambidextrous (but not very good anymore because neither hand can decide which is the dominant and therefore they fight each other in directing the ball to the hoop). That's my story, go figure! KiP, Diane P.S. For those I owe messages to, hopefully I'll find some light soon and get in touch. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:15:08 -0500 From: "Jacqueline \"Jackie\" Sorce" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 1 Dec 1996 to 2 Dec 1996 Veronica: << As i read the entries regarding past concerts i've noticed that no one has mentioned anything about Mel's concert in El Paso last week. Could it be that there's no on this list from the tip of Texas? >> Houston here Veronica. Missed the show here at home but caught it in Tampa with some other listers. We had a blast ... went out after where I was taken captive and saved by Michelle (thanks Meech) - finger sandwiches and all of that ... LONG STORY... have to ask around on that one. LOL. Luv is an indoor sport, Jackie :] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:44:49 -0500 From: Loretta Myers Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 1 Dec 1996 to 2 Dec 1996 In a message dated 96-12-03 00:05:20 EST, you write: << See, what happened was, I flashed her my breasts whilst at the front of the stage, and she was so stunned because surely she's never seen anything like them, that she dropped her pick (dropped her guitar too, but I couldn't snatch that one), fell over backwards, and took a 30-minute intermission so as to gain composure once again. >> ROFL. You keep posting those tall tales, girl. Sounds like a Texas tale to me where everything is bigger--or that's our story, anyway. Loretta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 15:55:38 EST From: DOUG Subject: MLETHER Digest and other things NMEC Hi Y'all! It's been awhile since I've posted but I's jus been sooooo busy! Hope you all had a wonderful holiday and/or weekend. Myself...things were good until Saturday when somehow (I'm still not sure how) I pulled a muscle in my right arm. I couldn't put on a coat without mucho pain...but it's getting better. Now on to matters at hand ***Heather Wilk wrote: *** ***> ***>REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST NOW ...ALL FUTURE MAIL WILL BE RETURNED IN ***>TRIPLICATE...... ***> Well, now wasn't that snotty...I say wasn't that snotty...once more, wasn't that snotty? (TRIplicate...means three honey!) I know this was probably a waste of time, since she has probably figured out how to remove herself from the list by now...or someone removed her. Okay...I waited some time to remark on the soundtrack for "Evita" because I wanted to really listen to it and not just give a quick review. Well, I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!! Madonna is tremendous and her voice, my god, what a voice. My favorite song is "Don't Cry For Me Argentina" and I hope she releases that as a single. Does anyone know if Melissa is on the American Music Awards tomorrow night? I know Celine Dion and Toni Braxton (both of whom have very similar videos out right now) are going to be there, so I have to watch even though I hate, I hate, I hate Chris Rock! One more thing, for all you admirers of beautiful, sexy men out there...Antonio Sabato Jr. is on FOX tonight in a movie called "Codename: Wolverine". Damn, I can't wait! Last night Savannah and tonight the Calvin Klein model...what's next????(my birthday, that's what...I turn 28 tomorrow...aaaargh) That's all for now. Take care y'all! Love ya (and a special howdy to renee and pooh!) Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:43:17 -0600 From: "Mark R. Goedtel, DVM" Subject: New-Test I to am new to this list. I just started receiving it 3 days ago. I have been a Melissa fan since the very first time I heard "Bring Me Some Water" on my way home to Wisconsin from Michigan when it first started getting play on the airwaves. I ran right out and bought the CD. I have found many of the comments in this mailing list very interesting in the short time I have been reading it, and maybe someone out there can answer a few questions I have. I thought I saw somewhere on a Melissa web page "ThunderRoad" mentioned. I would like to know if Melissa has ever done his song, and if so, is it the same song as my all-time favorite by Bruce Springsteen? Likewise, I have heard she does "Maggie-May", is this correct? I find it such an odd coincidence that these two songs are probably two of my top five favorite songs of all time. [I am a quadraplegic and use voice recognition software-I named my computer "Maggie"-so to activate her I have to say "wake up Maggie"] I have been attending concerts since 1974. The first one was BTO & Bob Seger (before his Beautiful Loser album), and I must say that Melissa puts on one of the best shows I've ever seen. I've seen her twice-1994 at the Weidner Center in Green Bay, and this last October 1st at the Brown County Arena in Green Bay. Both shows were excellent. What scares me though, is this past concert was only about half sold-out. So if by chance you are out there reading this, Melissa, we want you back in Green Bay. Anyone know when a new album is due? Thanks for your responses in advance. Mark "Youth Is Not a Time of Life... It Is a State of Mind" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:54:16 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Bryan Adams "Star" w/MLE HI gang, For all you inquiring minds, "Star" was listed in many of the dealer ads in the Dec. 6 Goldmine. Pick one up at your favorite bookstore or CD shop/Tower Records. And one more thing, not to drum up an old debate, but there are waaaayyyyy too many Cracker Barrels (one at every exit it seems) in the South! Jill (wondering if Honda-driving Chick Magnet Beth has been asleep for the past week and hoping she'll wake up in time for the DC disco dance!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:12:22 -0500 From: Mle Love Subject: Re: Rosie Julie : The Rosie show with Tom Cruise will be on next Tuesday. :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:29:06 -0500 From: Kelley at AOL Subject: NMEC - ice cream Totally non Melissa related but hey, I'm desperate!!! Anyone know where I can get rum raisin ice cream?? Since getting my gallbladder removed last Friday, it's all I want....and I'm desperate. Please email privately. BTW, I'm not joking. And yes, I tried Baskin Robbins in Missouri. Thanks in advance, Kelley "I am woman, I am invicible, I am tired!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:30:52 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: still alive and kickin' Sorry to disappoint some of you, but yes, the HDCM is alive and well !!!! I am *way* far behind in my email because of the Memphis trip, Thanksgiving, school, etc. - but just wanted to quickly say that MEMPHIS was *the best* time... proven in the fact that I am still not fully recovered (well, not as recovered as I could be, that is ). Looking forward to seeing all the MElisters and AOLers in DC on Saturday... Once again, Gwen is playing hostess with the mostest and I'm definitely hoping to be meeting some of you for the first time. I always have a *fantastic* time at lister get-togethers, am looking for a great turn-out (to rival any MElister get-together ever), and urge all the PA lurkers to make the trek (Brenda in Lancaster !!! and who? uh, Kelley maybe? in Gettysburg) - you'll have a great time, I promise !! And what about that Philly contingent (PAB) - Elizabeth Meadows, Francie aka swimfishie? Don't forget to bring your cameras... if that web page of mine ever gets up and runnin', I'm gonna need something to put on it !!! Beth (gone to compose the Memphis post) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:55:53 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: MElister bash at the Arizona Gwen wrote: To help the Honda Driving Chick Magnet (aka Beth Durff) celebrate her upcoming birthday, some of us D.C. Metro area listers are getting together next Saturday evening at the Arizona Bar & Grill near Dupont Circle. Beth will be the one wearing her birthday suit Hmmm... suppose someone will have to hold onto her Honda keys since she won't have any pockets... and: The first 250 women receive a free surprise gift. (I suggested Polaroids with the birthday girl in her birthday suit. Okay with you Beth?) And you expect people to *actually* show up for that? Why not just tell everyone that they'll be tortured mercilessly if they attend - same deal... Gee, I'm surprised you didn't suggest handing out posters even... and Randy wrote: I'd like to know who's going to DC this weekend to help one of our listers celebrate a birthday...(hi Beth!) please e-mail me so we can co-ordinate our staying over plans with Gwen and friends... just don't be promising anyone nudie polaroids.... I am *not* posing... okay, okay - you can promise - I'm not that proud - but no one said you have to deliver *lol* Beth (gone to get the airbrush gun) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:48:21 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 1 Dec 1996 to 2 Dec 1996 Jackie wrote: >Houston here Veronica. Missed the show here at home but caught it in Tampa >with some other listers. We had a blast ... went out after where I was taken >captive and saved by Michelle (thanks Meech) Anytime, Jacks. Although you did kind of make a cute couple. ;) > - finger sandwiches and all of that ... LONG STORY... have to ask around on >that one. LOL. There's no way to describe this one in mixed company, so I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut. Michelle "Did I say it doesn't rip me apart I lied I'm sorry dear my hands are tied" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 20:21:47 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: Honda chic-magnets of Texas Diane wrote: Janis and Claudia drove us to the bar. We were pleasantly surprised it was a Honda!! We met the Honda chic-magnets of Texas!!! Karen and I even spent some time in the back seat ;) *lol* ROT ROH !!!.... you gals wanna come to the get-together this Saturday? We can line the Honda's up and take turns jumpin' in and out of the back seats... As an added bonus - I'm also expecting Jonti (one of the Houstonian *babes*) to be there - the word is, she'll be the one jumping out of the b-day cake.... *lol* maybe ya'll can catch the same flight? Beth (back to hunting that airbrush equipment) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 19:26:35 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: Austin Well if Northampton and P.town weren't on the list, then get me the HELL to Austin! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Despite the cost of living, it continues to remain popular. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> [email protected] Get to Austin is right!!! My gf and I have just left Austin and hope to move back in the next year or two! I can't tell y'all enough how great Austin is! We never appreciated it until we left, but having lesbian neighbors (many) and str8 neighbors that didn't give dirty looks when you took out the trash was really cool. I just wish we'd known it then! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:47:26 -0500 From: Marie Cullinan Subject: MLE...I wish I was your lover CD I have the Cd and was wondering if anyoune would like to trade me some fun MLE stuff for a tape of the cd. I am interested in all her videos, the Sesame Street tape, and any other cool stuff. Let me know. The CD includes: Your little secret Bring me some water w/ Joan Osborne Saint Theresa w/ Joan Occasionally w/ Paula Cole Watch the woman's hands w/ Paula You can sleeep while I drive w/ Jewel Foolish games w/ Jewel I wish I was your lover w/ Sophie B Hawkins Love and affection w/ all of them Recorded live at the Doheney Mansion in LA October 10, 1995. This is the DUETS show!!! An unusual kiss Nowhere to go I could have been you I'm the only one Your little secret Recorder live in Roma, Italy October 1995 The quality is good!!!!!!!!!!!! Marie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:58:41 -0500 From: Kathie Green Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 1 Dec 1996 to 2 Dec 1996 We are new to the list. I've enjoyed what I have read so far. I am a big fan of ME. I saw her in concert in Chicago - October 12th and it was great!!!!! Did anyone else see it in Chicago?? My big question is this . . . does anyone have a copy of VH1 - Storytellers - I can buy or any other interviews, videos, etc. I have 20/20 taped, Nowhere to Go Video and David Letterman. That is it. Please Please Please - can someone supply me with this??? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:50:15 -0800 From: Christine Du Bois Subject: VICTORY!!!!! I just received a call from Janice Van Cleve of Seattle's Legal Marriage Alliance, and I'm proud to say. . . WE WON!!!!!!!!!! Same-sex marriage just PASSED the State Appeals Court in the state of Hawaii. It is currently on its way to the last stage, otherwise known as the State Supreme Court. There *is* justice in this world! Bright blessings, Christine Du Bois ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 2 Dec 1996 to 3 Dec 1996 ************************************************ From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Thu Dec 5 00:00:49 1996 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:00:11 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 3 Dec 1996 to 4 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:16:02 EST From: Virginia Siskavich Subject: Hip Hip Hooray! for Gay marriages Hi all... I just wanted to say that I think that it is so wonderful that there is some real unbiased justice in the world. Although I don't need a piece of paper to prove (?) my love for my girlfriend, it is a special gesture and the rights that accompany it should not be denied to any couple. I am overflowing with happiness and just wanted to share!! Back to lurking.... -V "If you only have one smile in you, give it to people you love. Don't be surly at home, then go out in the street and start grinning "Good morning" at total strangers." -Maya Angelou ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 00:31:05 -0500 From: MR DOW W JONES Subject: Review - Salt Lake City concert! Hello Mel-Fans! I thought a long time about writing this review to you or not. But I really want to tell you a little bit about the Salt Lake City concert from a European point of view. I know a lot of you won't agree with everything, but it was the experience I made and maybe just the Utah crowd (mormons) is kind of shy :) Anyway, let's start: I am originally from Austria and have seen her 3 times before (2 times Germany and 1 time Austria). Every of those concerts were BRILLIANT and because of that I had HIGH expectations to see Mel performing in her own country. It was not a sold out concert, but I guess, there were about 4.000 people there. I had right center, 7th row. The audience was packed with women, of course. She started with "I really like you" and right after that song I knew, that this was the LAZIEST audience I've ever seen. It seems that the Americans "don't know" how to clap their hands or know the lyrics of the songs. Instead they prefer to sit (!!), drink their beer and eat popcorn. I was really disappointed - so was Mel. She really tried her best and played even with extra enthusiasm. It started to get better at "Bring me some water", which was way too late. I was also a little bit disappointed in Mel herself. Her voice was o. k. (if you think how many concerts she is playing), but I tried to meet her before the concert (I was the only one there) and the security was really strict. Fortunately enough I handed a picture to the tour mananger and after the concert I got it back - signed especially for me. There was also one scene, were Mel acted like one of those "Out of Reach" and "Mega-Stars". It was right after she came back from her second stage. She took the way between the right center and the side rows, which was quite wide. Also the security used some rope to make it safer for her. Well, I thought that's my chance to touch her hand or JUST to look at her. Wrong! There were bodyguards in front, beside and behind her and she had a black blanket over her head. It looked so ridiculous that I just could .... smile. Result: It was a nice evening but not more. Kenny was really impressive. Good job. Take care, Angie xxx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 01:20:32 -0700 From: VERONICA FRESCAS Subject: El Paso is in TEXAS! Looks like i'm going to have to take matters into my own hands! i let it slide a week ago when i was at the concert here in El Paso, *TX* but then i get on this list and read that our friend from Albq. NM thinks that Mel was in Las Cruces! Granted, Las Cruces, NM is about a 45 min. drive from El Paso, but it's not in Texas--it's in New Mexico--two totally different states! i'll have you know that some people were so offened that the concert t-shirts said El Paso, NM that they didn't buy them. The promoters of the tour should have double checked their geographic locations. It may not seem like a big deal to you, but when you get passed over time and time again, it starts to insult people more than upset them. Melissa did mention however, that when she was last in El Paso (`89) she bought herself the best pair of boots she ever owned (El Paso is popular for our boots) and she wore them everywhere. Then after a concert in Dublin, Ireland, she left them behind! The confusion between Las Cruces and El Paso is understandable. Melissa was in Las Cruces two years ago-so we didn't have to wait that long. No one seems to understand that when a concert comes to El Paso or Las Cruces that they are in fact two different locations. In fact, El Pasoans pack Las Cruces concerts--we're twice as big than the small city of Las Cruces. Oh well. That's all the steam i have to blow off. Thanks for reading my rambling. Ciao! Roni ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 12:55:27 MET From: "A. Wolff" Subject: ...no subject... Hello!! Does anybody know if there will soon be programs on the dutch, german, belgium or english television (or radio) about/with Melissa? Thanks, Annemieke. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 13:21:15 UT From: "E. Anne Mowat" Subject: First contact? Hi, I'm giving up lurking for a while, decided it was about time I put in a word from my side of the Atlantic. Any other Scottish ME fans out there? Who said having friends in the magazine business wasn't a bonus? Yes I'm the lucky one who got to interview ME for Gay Scotland! Anne. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 08:46:05 -0500 From: "Deborah D. Jones" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 2 Dec 1996 to 3 Dec 1996 I just want to thank everyone who has been helping me get started on this great adventure. (Especially Melissa) I have met some super people! So... Thanks Alex, Mary, and Lisa. I know there are a lot more of you out there. Take care, Deb:):) [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:47:50 -0400 From: Alma M Cameron Subject: right/left All this talk about lefties! I am right handed, but can also write with my left hand, actually neater than with my right hand just not as fast. You know how lazy you become with handwriting. I throw right, bat left, shoot left in hockey, and work with both hands. It is at the point that whatever hand picks up the pencil is what hand I will write with. Also, someone on the list was talking about the duets tape. I would love to have a copy but I only have ME's Much Music Spotlight episode to trade. It is 2 1/2hr shows about her (videos and talking). Alma ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:29:15 -0500 From: Tina Chambers Subject: "weird" cities Well, I just got my MEIN newsletter in the mail, announcing MLE's four fave cities, and boy, was I in for a surprise... New York, L.A., Montreal and Sydney??? And here I was betting money (well, not really, but I -would- have) that at least Amsterdam would make it... Anyone else got the feeling that she just named the four biggest cities she could think of at the moment?? Oh well, no autographed set-list for me :-( Tina ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:52:39 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: VICTORY!!!!! Congratulations to all on the list that this move will affect. I have never understood how same sex marriages could constitutionally not be allowed. I'm very happy for all of you! Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 09:56:07 -0500 From: David Johnson Subject: Re: "weird" cities Tina Chambers wrote: > > Well, I just got my MEIN newsletter in the mail, announcing MLE's four > fave cities, and boy, was I in for a surprise... > > New York, L.A., Montreal and Sydney??? Well, Montreal WAS where she played her first really big crowd (1990? at the Montreal Forum). Glenna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:54:27 -0500 From: Donk Subject: >x2 - 6x = -21 >Its supposed to be x squared. It's been quite awhile since I've done this, but I believe this is how: use: [ -b +- square_root(b^2-4ac) ] / 2a for an equation that is written in the form of ax^2 + bx + c = 0 So, x^2 - 6x + 21 = 0 --> a=1, b=-6, c=21 Plug these into the above formula, and you get: 3 +- 2*square_root(-3) a +- b*i I forget how to write square_root(-3) in terms of i... is it "3i" ?? Hope this helps. Catherine [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:15:24 -0500 From: Donk Subject: photographers?? Anybody out there a photographer?? I took about 20 pictures at the Memphis show of Melissa and the band with a (f*****' cheap) disposable camera--when I got my pictures back from development, there were only 2 pictures of the concert in the envelope... on 1, it was just about pitch black... and the other was fine, but so far away... probably one of the first pictures I took (being nervous with the camera and all). Wondering where the other pictures were, I looked at my negatives--ALL OF THEM WERE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT!! Does anybody know if this was due to a faulty disposable camera, or what exactly the reason is why one concert picture came out fine, but all the rest didn't even take?? Sorry to those who wanted pictures of that concert--I would've been more than glad to make copies and send 'em out to ya, but believe me--> nobody is as upset as me who thought she had a couple dozen pics of the greatest chick on earth. Well, as I've said before, no picture can truly capture all the memories that I've brought back with me. -Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:27:30 -0500 From: Donk Subject: MLE's last show Perhaps this is a stupid idea for the last show cuz it doesn't show that it was us MEListers who thought of it, but I was thinking wouldn't it be cool if with those battery-operated xmas lights, if you held up these huge letters that spanned across the arena: A-U-S-T-I-N. Since she'll be on hiatus, and Austin's due just about a month later... I dunno, I like it. But ignore it if you don't like it. Wish I could be there; I've been trying, but airplane tickets alone are running $550 at the cheapest... pretty steep for a starving college student. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 12:18:54 -0400 From: Tegan Godwin Subject: Jewel's comments about ME I just wanted to write to tell people I saw Jewel in concert again and she said some really nice things about Melissa. She sounded so in awe of her. She stated that she got a phone call from her on her answering machine and all she could do was replay, "Hi, this is Melissa." She didn't go on in what the phone call was about, but she sounded like she was in heaven. I guess we all would if we got a message from her. Take care. Tegan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:42:29 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: For Pete's Sake (St. Pete, Florida that is) Michelle wrote: > Jackie wrote: >>Houston here Veronica. Missed the show here at home but caught it in > Tampa >>with some other listers. We had a blast ... went out after where I was > taken >>captive and saved by Michelle (thanks Meech) > > Anytime, Jacks. Although you did kind of make a cute couple. ;) It is going to be my turn to meet Michelle come the end of this month. We have corresponded for over a year and now the time has come to meet face to face. I don't know Michelle, can St. Pete (Tampa) handle the two of us at the same time. > >>- finger sandwiches and all of that ... LONG STORY ... have to ask > around on >that one. LOL. > > There's no way to describe this one in mixed company, so I'm just gonna > keep my mouth shut. Gee whiz, the only thing promised to me was egg plant parmesan and maybe a ride in It's A Small World After All. What up with that Meech? ;);) Kare, who wonders how many people eat finger sandwiches with the finger nails on as opposed with the finger nails off....talk about your nail biters. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 1980 00:37:15 -0800 From: susan allen Subject: HI! & MLE print HI all! I've been lurking in the shadows for about 4 months. I have met some members privately...HI AMY!! I am a huge melissa fan like many of you....and can not wait till the LA. show! I was surfing around the internet and found this page advertising a melissa print. Its a 8 1/2 x 11 reproduction of a painting done of melissa for an Aids benefit. There are 2500 copies and each one has its own print number. I thought it looked pretty neat so I ordered one. If anyone is interested: Send inquires to [email protected] they will send you a sample image of the print to preview. (Im starting to sound like an infomercial) Everyone, take it easy! Happy Holidays! peace, Susan ( a popular name on this list) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 12:44:35 -0500 From: Donk Subject: MEIN lotter tix FYI: It is possible to pick up MEIN tickets sooner than 1 or 2 hours before the show. In Memphis, a MELister picked up her tickets at 11:00 or so. Of course, some picked up much closer to the time of the concert and got better seats--but it is all a big lottery. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:08:54 -0800 From: "Amy J. Putnam" Subject: Re: photographers?? > Anybody out there a photographer?? ayuh > a (f*****' cheap) disposable camera--when I got my pictures back from > development, there were only 2 pictures of the concert in the envelope... > on 1, it was just about pitch black... and the other was fine, but so far ..... > negatives--ALL OF THEM WERE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT!! Does anybody know > if this was due to a faulty disposable camera, or what exactly the reason > is why one concert picture came out fine, but all the rest didn't even > take?? > sounds like a faulty camera. the transparent exposures (is there absolutely noth9ng there) are unexposed. teh one that is pitch back would be where it got stock. souinds like somehow the film wasnt connect to the sprockets well and never advanced when you turned the little advance wheel. though, disposables would probably not have *great* results anyway since they have a little plastic lens and the flash will only cover maybe 20 feet. transparent negs suggest unexposed film so it sounds like a camera problem. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 13:50:33 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Covers and Venues On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Mark R. Goedtel, DVM wrote: > answer a few questions I have. I thought I saw somewhere on a Melissa web > page "ThunderRoad" mentioned. I would like to know if Melissa has ever done > his song, and if so, is it the same song as my all-time favorite by Bruce > Springsteen? Yes; in fact, they performed it together on her MTV "Unplugged" special. > Likewise, I have heard she does "Maggie-May", is this correct? Yes; she was performing it on her YIA tour, as I recall. > Arena in Green Bay. Both shows were excellent. What scares me though, is > this past concert was only about half sold-out. That's been typical of this tour. There's been much speculation here as to why she was booked into huge venues that she couldn't fill. -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ________________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: September 67, LUCKY SHOE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 13:56:27 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: VICTORY!!!!! On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Christine Du Bois wrote: > WE WON!!!!!!!!!! Only the battle. As you pointed out, next it will go to the Hawaii Supreme Court. And if it passes that test, I expect Congress and the states to try to pass a Constitutional amendment which will nullify the ruling. Such amendments are very difficult to pass, but the public is so overwhelmingly opposed, I think it'd fly, unfortunately. This is no time to get complacent -- keep on top of this issue (the ADVOCATE, Web pages like those at http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/glb.html, mailing lists like GLB-NEWS and MARRIAGE) and do what you can to help. -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ________________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: September 67, LUCKY SHOE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 13:58:28 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: HI! & MLE print On Tue, 1 Jan 1980, susan allen wrote: > I was surfing around the internet and found this page advertising a > melissa print. Its a 8 1/2 x 11 reproduction of a painting done of melissa > for an Aids benefit. There are 2500 copies and each one has its own print > number. I thought it looked pretty neat so I ordered one. If anyone is > interested: Send inquires to [email protected] they will send you a sample > image of the print to preview. (Im starting to sound like an infomercial) Has anyone ever heard of MLE painting this print or any other before? I don't recall hearing of any such efforts. -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ________________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: September 67, LUCKY SHOE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 13:57:57 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: For Pete's Sake (St. Pete, Florida that is) Kare, the Punster, wrote: >It is going to be my turn to meet Michelle come the end of this month. >We have corresponded for over a year and now the time has come to meet >face to face. I don't know Michelle, can St. Pete (Tampa) handle the two >of us at the same time. Uh oh. Two punsters on the loose in the bay area. Lock the doors, pull down the shades and cover your ears 'cause the puns will be flying. But I don't have any prepared so I'll just have to wing it. ;) >>>- finger sandwiches and all of that ... LONG STORY ... have to ask >>> around on that one. LOL. >> >> There's no way to describe this one in mixed company, so I'm just gonna >> keep my mouth shut. > >Gee whiz, the only thing promised to me was egg plant parmesan and maybe >a ride in It's A Small World After All. What up with that Meech? ;);) First of all, the "finger sandwiches" that Jackie referred to are not edible. Well ... ummm ... er... then again .... And, as for visiting Mickey, it could be kinda cheesey, but it's a good place to take a minnie vacation and goof off. Michelle "And I'd do anything to get it out of my mind I need some insanity of that temporary kind" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:34:01 -0500 From: Tanya Jones Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 3 Dec 1996 to 4 Dec 1996 - Unfinished In a message dated 96-12-04 17:18:19 EST, you write: << [email protected] >> Reply to Deb about the print that Susan Allen mentioned. This was not painted by Melissa Etheridge. It is of Melissa Etheridge. Hope that remedies any confusion. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:09:02 -0800 From: Elizabeth Meadows Subject: Re: still alive and kickin' Beth Durff wrote: > Looking forward to seeing all the MElisters and AOLers in DC on Saturday... > Once again, Gwen is playing hostess with the mostest and I'm definitely > hoping to be meeting some of you for the first time. I always have a > *fantastic* time at lister get-togethers, am looking for a great turn-out > (to rival any MElister get-together ever), and urge all the PA lurkers to > make the trek (Brenda in Lancaster !!! and who? uh, Kelley maybe? in > Gettysburg) - you'll have a great time, I promise !! And what about that > Philly contingent (PAB) - Elizabeth Meadows, Francie aka swimfishie? Well, although I was even saving Gwen's message just in case, I won't be able to make it down. I need a weekend to just veg out at home after being away a lot. So, hope you all have a great time - have a drink or two in my name. And happy birthday Beth! - Elizabeth :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:54:38 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: Cracker Barrels and Disco Dancin' Jill "Da Bomb" Barry wrote: >And one more thing, not to drum up an old debate, but there are waaaayyyyy >too many Cracker Barrels (one at every exit it seems) in the South! where were we when we lost count? You're *trying* to start something aren't you?! and: >(wondering if Honda-driving Chick Magnet Beth has been asleep for the past >week and hoping she'll wake up in time for the DC disco dance!) I barely have a pulse after that Memphis extravaganza...*lol* ...but don't worry, when the lights go down (ahem - on the dance floor, that is - ) I come alive baby. See ya there eh?! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:10:30 -0500 From: Lisa M Mahoski Subject: rosie I caught Rosie this morning... She was counting down to Tom it is going to be on Tuesday december 10th. So don't sweat it you didn't miss it you were just a week early. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:33:13 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Plane tix/Audience behavior [email protected] (Donk) wrote: <> There are "last minute" plane tickets, round trip, you can find for less than $300! I should know, I was looking longingly at the ads myself! Not that I have any business buying a plane ticket to anywhere at this holiday time of year! [email protected] (MR DOW W JONES)--(is that your real name? ) Wrote: << right after that song I knew, that this was the LAZIEST audience I've ever seen. It seems that the Americans "don't know" how to clap their hands or know the lyrics of the songs. Instead they prefer to sit (!!), drink their beer and eat popcorn.> When I was in the third row at Nissan (Va) in August, practically the entire front row sat and ate during most of the show. I shot many disapproving looks their way and had to hold back the urge to smack every last one of them. That's what you get when radio contest winners and record people and their friends get the best seats....ggrrrrrrrrrr! More on audience behavior later! Jill ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 3 Dec 1996 to 4 Dec 1996 ************************************************ From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Fri Dec 6 00:00:46 1996 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 00:00:08 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 4 Dec 1996 to 5 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:18:13 -0600 From: Andrea Dyche Subject: Re: Covers and Venues >On Tue, 3 Dec 1996, Mark R. Goedtel, DVM wrote: > >> answer a few questions I have. I thought I saw somewhere on a Melissa web >> page "ThunderRoad" mentioned. I would like to know if Melissa has ever done >> his song, and if so, is it the same song as my all-time favorite by Bruce >> Springsteen? > >Yes; in fact, they performed it together on her MTV "Unplugged" special. Didn't Bruce show up at one of Melissa's concerts awhile ago? Played "Pink Cadilliac"? I'm sure I read that somewhere. Andrea "Well, I got this guitar and I learned how to make it talk..." Bruce Springsteen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 22:24:57 -0700 From: VERONICA FRESCAS Subject: Audience Behaviour As mentioned before, Mel rocked for close to three hours (here in El Paso) on a Tuesday night. i for one had to go to class the next day (and take a test at that!) but i stayed till those house lights came back on--and so did most of those 3,000 people. We had some pretty lame people at the show, but now i'm finding that it happens at some other concerts too. however, _no one_ on the floor sat down for a moment. i have to admit, i was a bit tired and sat through a couple of songs, but my lover danced enough for both of us! It's a drag when people don't know how to behave properly at a concert. As for those of you still counting the days to see her and each other--all i can say is have fun and i wish i could be part of the festivities. ciao! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 01:47:19 -0500 From: Melanie Carino Subject: Sacramento Concert Anyone going to the Melissa concert in Sacramento on Dec 18th? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 02:02:04 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: Re: Covers and Venues Deb wrote: >> Likewise, I have heard she does "Maggie-May", is this correct? > >Yes; she was performing it on her YIA tour, as I recall. A recording of one such performance was released as the B-side of the ITOO single. -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) [email protected] http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 00:59:28 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Las Vegas, Joan Osborne, videos, more... I'm trying desperately to catch up with *weeks* of unanswered email, and even more email that is still unread... someday I hope to get my life back! ---- About two weeks ago, Kimberly wrote: >A local L.A. station, K-BIG 104.3 announced yesterday that Melissa >will be appearing Tuesday, December 10 at the Primadonna Hotel & >Casino in Stateline, Nevada. I took this news with a grain of salt >as they are notorious for getting their info messed up. The current issue of the Las Vegas Bugle (a local 'lesbian and gay news' paper) provides the following description of Melissa's 'Las Vegas' show: Melissa at Buffalo Bill's Star of the Desert Arena, Dec 10, 7:30pm Buffalo Bills Resort and Casino is located 35 minutes south of Las Vegas at Primm Nevada, off interstate 15, at the Nevada/California border. Tickets available at Ticketmaster, or any Primadonna Casino Resorts' box office... call 1-800-FUN-STOP. ---- Like several other people on this list, I discovered Joan Osborne through her DUETS performance with Melissa, and I have spent months searching for her early work on the 'Womanly Hips' and 'Blue Gorilla' labels, without success... until now... Joan has re-released her early work on Mercury, entitled 'Joan Osborne: Early Recordings'. These songs are mostly live performances in a New York club called Delta 88, and most of the songs are her own work, though she *does* perform an interesting cover of a Captain Beefheart(!) tune. ---- Several new list-members have asked for copies of various Melissa videos, including Storytellers, DUETS, Sesame Street, etc... *after* the year-end holidays (sometime in early January) I will announce to the list another Melissa video compilation, similar to Elise's two-tape compilation from last year... this idea was suggested to me by Joyce Luck, and she has offered to provide me with some of the material for this new compilation. It will include Storytellers, Sesame Street (Joyce, I finally got to see it on local TV and I now have a great master copy), DUETS, and thanks to a wonderful Canadian list-member I will also include the great MuchMusic two-part Melissa presentation (one of the best Melissa compilations I've ever seen)... plus some other material I have in my collection... her 1988 Letterman debut, her appearance with Julie on Rosie O'Donnell's Stand-Up Spotlight, and more. Later this month I will post a complete list of the proposed compilation. And for those who missed Elise's compilation last year, I will be offering copies of that as well... stay tuned for more info. ---- In less than two weeks we will be enjoying Melissa's performance at the Cow Palace in San Francisco (mooo!). We are expecting several visiting list-members from out-of-town, and as usual, the 'Bay Area Bunch' wants to have a BAB gathering for those who visit our beautiful Bay Area. I know at least two-dozen BABsters from this list, and most of us have attended various parties/tours/etc for list-visitors during the last year. If you are planning to visit, and want to be included in any BAB plans, please contact me via private email. If you are a San Francisco Bay Area resident (that's from Monterey to Santa Rosa to Sacramento, inclusive) and you are *not* yet on my BAB-list (and you want to be included in our BAB-gatherings), please contact me via private email. We are also looking forward to the return of Shirl, and some other visitors during the week before New Years... I am planning several events, including another party at my place. ---- I apologize to all those to whom I owe email... life has been full of serious challenges lately, but it can't last forever... I *will* get to you. Special note to Angie ... glad to see you're still on the list, but sorry you could only see a show in Salt Lake City... if you join us in San Francisco I can guarantee you will see a much different audience than the one you saw in Salt Lake. John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 07:32:43 -0500 From: Mo Phillips Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 3 Dec 1996 to 4 Dec 1996 >I just wanted to write to tell people I saw Jewel in concert again and >she said some really nice things about Melissa. She sounded so in awe >of her. She stated that she got a phone call from her on her answering >machine and all she could do was replay, "Hi, this is Melissa." She >didn't go on in what the phone call was about, but she sounded like she >was in heaven. I guess we all would if we got a message from her. >Take care. Tegan I also saw Jewel on Tuesday in Durham, NH and I believe that she was refering to the call she got to perform Foolish Games with Melissa on the Duets Program. Peace, Mo > Mo Phillips 5 Quad Way Durham, NH 03824 (603) 862-1479 fax: (603) 862-0218 E-Mail: [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:03:01 -0500 From: Toni Robinson Subject: Dreamin with Alex & Aloha >From: alexis >it's in kids' writing, and the E is backwards, and on the other side is a >stork with his wings spread with a package in his beak. Perhaps on his >way to deliver a baby. ;) Wanna know how I got the pick? LOL..Alex..does it really have a stork on it? > See, what happened was, I flashed her my breasts whilst at the >front of the stage, and she was so stunned because surely she's never seen >anything like them, that she dropped her pick (dropped her guitar too, >but I couldn't snatch that one), fell over backwards, and took a >30-minute intermission so as to gain composure once again. ROTFLMGDAO - you're too much Alex..I do hope you attempted to revive her!(as long as we're dreaming with Alex here...) >Same-sex marriage just PASSED the State Appeals Court in the state of >Hawaii. It is currently on its way to the last stage, otherwise known as >the State Supreme Court. >Christine Du Bois Yeah! Hope it stands! Cuz its ALOHA TIME!! Toni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:49:33 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Etheridge Writes RS Hi y'all Somebody posted this on AOL and so I thought you'd all be interested: >>I just got the newest issue of RollingStone (Pamela Anderon w/ Beavis and Butthead on the cover) and came across the CUTEST tidbit penned by none other than Melissa herself. In the front section where they publish letters to the editor I see a section entitled MELISSA ETHERIDGE WATCH "Thanks for running the dorkiest picture of me onstage that I have ever seen. Jeez!" Melissa Etheridge Burbank, Calif.<< Burbank, eh? Hmmmm..... Anyway, I think it's awfully cute that she didn't say anything about the negative review. Now here's a woman with a sense of humor. Later, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 10:21:41 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: Colleen's ankle I got a call the other day from one of our D.C. Metro Macarena listers, Colleen Lanthrip. Colleen and her lifepartner, Linda, were planning to attend the dance this Sat. mainly to see if Beth really is gonna flash her tassels. (g) However.... there may be one slight (okay more than slight) problem.... Poor Colleen fell off a ladder while she and Linda were doing something in the closet this past weekend. Colleen said something about Linda letting go before she was ready, thinking she was closer to the ground than she was, and landing in an odd position. (Let's just leave the story at that....) Anyway, Colleen chipped a bone in her ankle and tore some tendons. (OUCH!!) But being the true wild and crazy MELister that she is, she's still trying to talk Linda into bringing her to the dance, cast and all. Colleen's email address in case anyone wants to send her a get well msg. (or a msg. to say that she's crazy for wanting to go dancing) is: [email protected] (Yep, we both work at NIH and we met because of the ME list. Pretty groovy, huh?) Gwen Astaire ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 13:14:15 -0500 From: Lori Rehfeldt Subject: toys. I am wearing my black "MEET ME IN THE BACK" Melissa Etheridge shirt. Just had to say that -- so no one says, "Hey what does this have to do with Melissa?" Absolutely nothing. Oh, did you see Melissa on ELLEN the other night. It was a very subtle move on Ellen's part. I couldn't believe that look on Melissa's face. Well, it's true. I met Ellen for a weekend in Paris ... all happenstance of course. She saw me from a distance and had to meet me. I could understand. I mean, I like me, in fact I like talking to me -- now, I try to do THAT only in the chatrooms. Although, I've banned myself from several chatrooms. I hate those OPs ... but I love being an OP. I mean when you ever in life get the chance to kick people out of the rooms. Anyway, since I was slightly hungry, I decided to eat ... not Ellen, but her food. Yes, she took me out to lunch. Ellen's maxed out on her cards ... so I had to pay. I told her to wash the dishes or something. Well, after she broke a setting of eight, we were thrown into the street. Ellen stared into my face ... I thought I had something hanging out of my nose. She whispered, "Now what?" Of course I took that as a sign that she thought I was cheap and easy. I was amazed at her psychic ability. We went back to her room, cause the police thought we were either loitering or soliciting. Ellen denied selling anything, then she had the nerve to ask if hawking her book counted. Back to her room, which was floral ... the lights were dim and MELISSA ETHERIDGE music was playing in the background -- okay KRISTEN HALL's OUT IN THE COUNTRY was playing then again it might have been the INDIGO GIRL'S Suicide Alley -- but maybe it wasn't since I don't belong to the Indigo Girl's listserv (AND WHY CAN'T THEY PUT A LITTLE "E" AT THE END OF LISTSERV?) Oh, now I remember, it was Joan Armatrading's Love and Affection was playing, and I was really getting into the mood. Very romantic ... until Ellen slyly or shyly asked if I wanted to see her toys. You might be saying, "NO WAY!." "WAY!!" I say. She said it could be a lot of fun. Now, being raised guilty and the first to admit that my hand is usually stuck in the cookie jar. OKAY, I never in my life played with toys. 'Cept once. And I broke it. It wasn't a very good model -- and I was new at it. That's another story. Had to ask Ellen, "Toys?" "Yes." She said, "We can play TROUBLE." Trouble, wow, now my mind was racing wondering if I should leave or ask for her autograph or just what does this fantasy imply. I wanted to know her most sensual fantasy. She left me sitting on the bed, winked and said she'd be right back. I wondered if I should leave my clothes on ... or be prepared ... although I was never a girl scout. Mom that though the girl scouts was originally the HITLER YOUTH -- go figure. Anyway, she came back wearing -- it was amazing. We played trouble, played it hard, played it soft, played it fierce, played it gently. We played it on the floor and on the bed. I think we played it under the bed, oh and in the shower. Gotta do the shower. Clean is fun. I did get angry. She would never let me be green, although, she got to be red and blue. After that she broke out the Monopoly game. Whoa, that was one long night. The best was BATTLESHIP. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 19:23:19 -0800 From: Andrea Tan Subject: More on Hawaii NMEC >From the New York Times...(fwd'd from someone on AOL) "Judge Puts Same-Sex Marriage Ruling on Hold The judge who declared Hawaii must allow gay marriages put the ruling on hold Wednesday while the state appeals. Circuit Judge Kevin Chang agreed with attorneys for the state that Hawaii would have a dilemma if couples were allowed to marry and Hawaii's Supreme Court then overturned his ruling, The Associated Press reported. The stay will remain in effect until the high court rules, meaning gay couples won't be able to marry in Hawaii for at least a year, if at all. Deputy Attorney General Rick Eichor said in arguing for the stay that he will file an appeal within 30 days. That will send the case back to the Supreme Court, which in 1993 ruled that the state's ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional unless the state can show a compelling interest in continuing it." ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:54:27 -0500 From: Donk > use: [ -b +- square_root(b^2-4ac) ] / 2a >for an equation that is written in the form of > ax^2 + bx + c = 0 YEAGHHHH!!!!!!! =) Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 21:20:56 +0100 From: Katinka Groothuis Subject: Melissa on dutch tv? Hi all! Annemieke asked: >Does anybody know if there will soon be programs on the dutch, german, >belgium or english television (or radio) about/with Melissa? I read awhile ago that Veronica TV has planned a Melissa-special at *And N.O.W. ... Music.* It's a musicprogram every friday at 16.30. This friday they have a Phil Collins special and next week Sheryl Crow. So keep your eyes open! Katinka ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 12:31:22 -0800 From: susan allen Subject: print "Has anyone ever heard of MLE painting this print or any other before? I don't recall hearing of any such efforts." << [email protected] >> Reply to Deb about the print that Susan Allen mentioned. This was not painted by Melissa Etheridge. It is of Melissa Etheridge. Hope that remedies any confusion. Thanks Tanya! For anyone else who might be a little confused....Check out http://aol.com/TEALJONES/etheridge.html Maybe that will clear things up for you. :) Have a good day! susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:01:56 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: DC this weekend Hey Beth and the rest of the gang! I would really love to join you all this weekend, but with the big day just 3 weeks away, I have plenty of shopping to do! Also, I got DJ gigs every weekend till Christmas week, making the $$ to buy the presents! I also have been job interviewing and that came out of the blue! When it rains, it pours..in a good way! I really didn't think I would be hunted out to fill a position this time of year! So much going on, so little time! How about a rain check for next time? And have a couple for me! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 21:54:34 UT From: Anna Subject: I'm a newbie, but a goodie. Hi. I'm new to this list. Actually, I'm new to this whole internet thing. I recently broke up with my gf and bought a computer to help me fill those long lonely hours. I currently live in NY, but maybe not for much longer. Too many memories here. Hopefully, the chatrooms, this list, and ME's music will get me through this rough time. Thanks for listening. Anna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 14:55:32 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: concert ideas Hiya. Ok, silly idea here, but it hit me after talking to someone about how/when I quit smoking. How bout all of us lighting up cigarettes after she does "that thing" with her guitar that everyone says makes 'em feel like they should light up a cigarette after? She might get it and laugh. Or would we get in trouble with fire marshalls or whatever? I don't smoke anymore, I do do chocolate, but somehow I don't think it would have the same visual effect. Does this make anyone wanna hear about how/when I quit smoking? Ok, I thought not. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 17:00:48 -0500 From: D- Subject: hi, I am new to this list and I just wanted to introduce myself and say Hi. My name is Danielle. I am attending school in NH, but I am from Maine. I have been a huge ME fan since my mom had her 1st (and in my opinion, best CD) when I was in the 8th grade. She has been my fav ever since. I've only seen her in concert 2 times, but they were incredible... :) Guess that's all. Bye Danielle ([email protected]) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 17:02:05 -0500 From: D- Subject: hi hi... i was just wondering where some of you are from. i see you talking about concerts all over, so i was just curious. Danielle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:36:26 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Pink Caddy, Small Crowd Theory Hi all, coupla things: Andrea wrote: <> Yes, they were playing in Milwaukee the same night and Bruce dropped on by for a duet. Hopefully we'll see it on an "import" in the near future! MLE has covered "Pink Cadillac" solo before. About those small crowds, I have a theory, my opinion--so take it for what it is worth. How many years has Melissa been touring in a row now...like 5? I think for fans who have been to the shows the last 3-5 years, you've generally seen the audience get bigger year to year. I think the biggest crowds I've seen here in DC were at the peak times of Yes I Am (1994 and 1995). Let's say that Joe Music Fan likes a lot of artists including MLE. He wants to see MLE in concert and does, but doesn't necessarily need to see her EVERY YEAR. He sees her, hopefully likes what he sees and hears, and is able to say "Yes I did (see her)." My opinion is, there are a lot of music fans out there who like MLE's music and/or admire her for living HER life and not somone else's, (or whatever reason they like her) and they go and see her. For them, seeing Melissa once or twice is enough. For example, I like Joan Osborne's music. I saw her in concert last year and enjoyed her music very much. Am I itching to go see her again? Not really. The CDs are enough for me. I'd rather save my money to go on some crazy trip to see Melissa. :) Then there are big fans who will see her anytime, and anywhere, if time and finances permit. I think we can include a lot if not most of you on that list! So don't worry about the small crowds. I think they will build again after Melissa takes some time off and starves us! Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:49:36 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Strange Behavior Hi, And another thing, (disclaimer: I am hardly a poster woman for teetotalling) BUT... I *cannot* understand why I see a number of people wasted at concerts. Especially if someone is a Melissa fan, and they spend all that money for the tickets and all that energy into the anticipation of seeing her, and then they get drunk (or stoned) and end up missing a lot of what's going on. I'm not saying don't have fun or don't unwind, but I don't see what the point is of getting completely tanked at a show. You knock into other people, and what a shame...you miss all the details and other "little things" that happen at the concert, things that you will not see or experience in the same way again. Anyway, my .02. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:56:00 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: Pink Caddy, Small Crowd Theory Jill Barry wrote: > How many years has Melissa been touring in a row now...like 5? > So don't worry about the small crowds. I think they will build again after > Melissa takes some time off and starves us! I tend to agree with you....AND hope we're right. While she's on hiatus she'll be able to sit back and write some new songs from a totally NEW perspective, being a mom and all. -- [email protected] Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same A persons greatest emotional need is to feel appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 19:33:52 -0500 From: D- Subject: Re: I'm a newbie, but a goodie. On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Anna wrote: > Hi. I'm new to this list. Actually, I'm new to this whole internet thing. > I recently broke up with my gf and bought a computer to help me fill those > long lonely hours. > > I currently live in NY, but maybe not for much longer. Too many memories > here. > > Hopefully, the chatrooms, this list, and ME's music will get me through > this rough time. Thanks for listening. > > Anna hi Anna, i am also new to the list and wanted to say hi. i just wanted to say that Melissa always cheers me up too :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 00:37:54 UT From: Anna Subject: Single's list? Hi again. Another list member told me in private e-mail that there was a separate single's list, but she didn't know how to join it. Does anyone know? I'd love to join it. Thanks. Anna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 20:33:19 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: US audiences, stalkers, jewel, front row winners MR DOW W JONES said: >It seems that the Americans "don't know" how to clap their hands or >know the lyrics of the songs. Instead they prefer to sit (!!), drink >their beer and eat popcorn. well, not all american audiences are this way. >I was also a little bit disappointed in Mel herself. Her voice was >o. k. (if you think how many concerts she is playing), didn't someone say that she sounded like she had a cold? >There was also one scene, were Mel acted like one of those "Out of >Reach" and "Mega-Stars". It was right after she came back from her >second stage. She took the way between the right center and the side >rows, which was quite wide. Also the security used some rope to make >it safer for her. Well, I thought that's my chance to touch her hand >or JUST to look at her. Wrong! There were bodyguards in front, >beside and behind her and she had a black blanket over her head. It >looked so ridiculous that I just could .... smile. her security have been draping her in black since at least the YIA tour last year (if not earlier). there was a discussion on the list either earlier this year or late last year about how MLE's been stalked by someone (maybe more than one?). it's actually kind of sad that it has reached this point but not too surprising considering some of the sickos out there. ============================== Tegan Godwin said: >I just wanted to write to tell people I saw Jewel in concert again >and she said some really nice things about Melissa. She sounded so >in awe of her. She stated that she got a phone call from her on her >answering machine and all she could do was replay, "Hi, this is >Melissa." She didn't go on in what the phone call was about, but >she sounded like she was in heaven. I guess we all would if we got >a message from her. MLE's phone call was to ask jewel to perform at the VH1 "duets" show. ============================== Jill Barry said: >When I was in the third row at Nissan (Va) in August, practically >the entire front row sat and ate during most of the show. I shot >many disapproving looks their way and had to hold back the urge to >smack every last one of them. That's what you get when radio contest >winners and record people and their friends get the best >seats....ggrrrrrrrrrr! i can understand if people get upset when others around them are talking too loudly or throwing beer around or having sex in the aisles (!), but i guess i don't get why people get mad because some people are too mellow for their tastes. perhaps some of these people cannot stand for long periods of time due to some physical malady. btw, not every radio contest winner is a "fair weather fan" - i won front row tix from KFOG to the 12/17 SF show, and i plan on having a blast but without ruining others' enjoyment of the show. only one more week until my first MLE show on the west coast tour...:-D *rhondda* ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 4 Dec 1996 to 5 Dec 1996 ************************************************ From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Fri Dec 6 20:21:30 1996 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:20:51 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 5 Dec 1996 to 6 Dec 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:18:55 +1100 From: kellie hinchy Subject: Videos in Australia This is to all the Australain list members. I was wanting to get copies of an videos anyone may have. Unfortunately my video collection of Melissa is very poor in that I only have a couple of music video clips. Can someone please please please help me out. Kellie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 07:58:16 -0500 From: Tina Chambers Subject: audience behavior Yeah, maybe not *all* U.S. audiences are as "lame" as those that made it to the list recently, but after actually experiencing ME in concert in Europe, I have to admit it would be hard to duplicate that sort of audience involvement over here (I still wish you good luck in your efforts, though, Tim :-) ). And it's not because we Yanks are any less dedicated, or love ME less, or are any less certifiably insane, nope, it's for one simple reason: reserved seats. First you have the "natural selection": prospective concert goers in Europe know that attending a ME concert will involve being on their feet for 2 1/2 hrs straight, usually occupying about half as much floor space as their body mass requires. Thus, the ratio of people who really REALLY like ME tends to be a bit higher than here... Then you have the fan bonding or lack thereof. To be in halfway decent proximity to the stage, you better show up no less than 3 -4- hrs before the doors to the venue open. Plenty of time to coordinate any planned crowd action, get everyone properly psyched and teach the last few the lyrics to "The green grass grew all around" The density factor. Even if you haven't been paying attention to the goings-on outside, or simply showed up too late, if the audience behind you decides it's time to "do the wave", you don't have much choice than go along or risk serious spinal injuries. The audience, willing or not, almost *has* to react as one. Here, we have way too much "personal space" And, of course, venue size. This might sound slightly perverted, but I'd much rather be in a crowd of 6,000 occupying a room designed for 5,000 than for 15,000....but I'm one of those hoping that this will be the last U.S. tour featuring 10,000+ venues :-) All in all, I'm glad that there's going to be a hiatus before the next European Tour, so I can save up for airfare KIP Tina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:14:21 EST From: Wendy Waterstrat Subject: another NH lister Delurking to welcome new lister Danielle: > I am new to this list and I just wanted to introduce myself and > say Hi. My name is Danielle. I am attending school in NH, but I am from > Maine. Welcome Danielle, to both the list and NH (from another NH inhabitant). There are more than a few of us from NH; some on the regular list, and more on the info only list > I have been a huge ME fan since my mom had her 1st (and in my > opinion, best CD) when I was in the 8th grade. She has been my fav ever > since. I've only seen her in concert 2 times, but they were > incredible... :) Guess that's all. Bye Hey, that's great that you and your Mom share the same great taste in ME's music! My Mom likes some of the music I like. I got her hooked on Mary Chapin Carpenter when I left a tape in her car, but she's not big on Melissa. > i was just wondering where some of you are from. i see you talking > about concerts all over, so i was just curious. We are from all over... all over the world. There are listers in Canada, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, US. Hmmmm... South America? Asia? Africa? I can't recall but I wouldn't be surprised. Wendy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:31:21 -0500 From: Toni Robinson Subject: Strange Behavior >From: Jill Barry >Subject: Strange Behavior >I *cannot* understand why I see a number of people wasted at concerts. > Especially if someone is a Melissa fan, and they spend all that money for >the tickets and all that energy into the anticipation of seeing her, and then >they get drunk (or stoned) and end up missing a lot of what's going on. >Anyway, my .02 I agree completely..I was more than a little concerned about some of the people I saw at the last MLE concert I attended. As far as I could see, there weren't a whole lot of designated drivers -- just a lot of people getting drunk. I love to see people getting into the show, but getting drunk seems to me to be the best way to miss it. My .02..now we have almost a nickle :-) Toni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 09:37:53 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: lottery, behaviour Donk wrote: >> Subject: MEIN lotter tix >> Of course, some picked up much closer to the time of the concert >> and got better seats--but it is all a big lottery. The time that you pick up tickets has nothing to do with what seats you get. The tickets are in an envelope with your name on it so they'll be the same tickets at any time of the day. But yes, it is a lottery. shane wrote: >> PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS MAILING LIST, THANK YOU. At least he said "please" and "thank you". Now he just has to get the caps lock key on his keyboard fixed. Jill Barry wrote: >> There are "last minute" plane tickets, round trip, you can find for >> less than $300! I was going to write "but do you want to leave the chance of there being no concert tickets left?". However, that wouldn't be a problem on this tour. VERONICA wrote: >> It's a drag when people don't know how to behave properly at a >> concert. And what do you consider proper behaviour to be at a concert? And is proper behaviour at one concert necessarily proper behaviour at another concert? Joyce Luck posted this from Rolling Stone via AOL: >> MELISSA ETHERIDGE WATCH >> "Thanks for running the dorkiest picture of me onstage that I have >> ever seen. Jeez!" Proof positive that she doesn't see every review. There are dorkier pictures of her that have been published. Jill Barry wrote: >> I don't see what the point is of getting completely tanked at a >> show. You knock into other people, People can do that without being drunk/stoned. Have you never had the "good fortune" to be near people who thought they were dancing? rhondda wrote: >> aisles (!), but i guess i don't get why people get mad because some >> people are too mellow for their tastes. What a shame! People not blocking your view or crashing into you with their poor attempts at dancing. I know I'm real upset when that doesn't happen to me. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:57:29 -0500 Subject: Request (fwd) From: [email protected] (Lawrence A. Jacobson) If anyone has any bass tab. for any of Melissa's songs, or knows where I could any please e-mail me at: [email protected] Thanks, Keri ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:20:37 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: I'm posting, I'm posting... Hello everyone... I haven't posted in a while so I thought I'd say hello... I went to my favorite used record store last night. Breakdown Records in Bayside, NY. They have a huge selection of live and bootleg CD's from a lot of people... And they had like 5 or 6 Melissa CD's... can anyone lend me some money... LOL... Anyways... My friend surprised me and bought me a bootleg CD before she came over... She had stopped there... The CD is great... The only thing is, I already have it. Now I know I can go back and exchange it, but I am kinda broke and well I was a wondering if anyone would like to buy it? It's called "Run baby run" and it has live songs from an overseas show on the first leg of her YLS tour... Then it has the VH1 Honors concert songs on it... It's $25.00... If anyone is interested, please e-mail me privately and let me know. We;ll work it out... I'm gonna give it a few days and if I can't sell it, then I'll bring it back... So... Let me know... =) Happy Chanukkah to everyone, Jewish and not... =) And Happy Holidays, too... Have a wonderful weekend... =) Peace, Kiva [email protected] P.S. I know that I owe some of you tapes from a trade... I have been having a weird time of life lately and I know what I owe to who, so please bear with me... I have not forgotten you... Thanks... =7 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:08:32 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: "weird" cities On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Tina Chambers wrote: > Well, I just got my MEIN newsletter in the mail, announcing MLE's four > fave cities, and boy, was I in for a surprise... > > New York, L.A., Montreal and Sydney??? I was very surprised too. L.A. and Montreal were expected. But I thought for sure that Amsterdam and Chicago would be in there. I've heard her rave about the crowds there, but I've never heard anything special about NYC or Sydney. -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ________________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: September 67, LUCKY SHOE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:10:11 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Etheridge Writes RS On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Joyce Luck wrote: > MELISSA ETHERIDGE WATCH > "Thanks for running the dorkiest picture of me onstage that I have ever > seen. Jeez!" > Melissa Etheridge > Burbank, Calif.<< LOL! I need to see it! Who's gonna get that thing scanned in for my Web site? I'll run it with MLE's quote right under it. :) > Anyway, I think it's awfully cute that she didn't say anything about the > negative review. Now here's a woman with a sense of humor. Love it! -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ________________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: September 67, LUCKY SHOE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:14:23 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: print On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, susan allen wrote: > Thanks Tanya! For anyone else who might be a little confused....Check out > http://aol.com/TEALJONES/etheridge.html That's not a valid URL... -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ________________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: September 67, LUCKY SHOE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:25:44 EST From: DOUG Subject: rosie's show Good Friday to you all! I hope you get the chance to see Rosie's show today with guest - Penny Marshall! We love her, ya know! Can't believe that I have to watch Saturday Night Live next weekend to see Penny and Rosie host. Hate the show but love them...so I'll watch. That's it for now. Have a great weekend. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:09:59 EST From: Virginia Siskavich Subject: Alanis Curious Hi all! I heard something from a friend the other day and am wondering if there is any truth to it... Is Alanis Morrisette gay? I hadn't heard anything like that prior to our conversation... Just curious! -V ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:11:42 -0500 From: Kimberly Nygard Subject: Re: Alanis Curious I have heard she is... was kinda wondering myself is she was or not ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:21:05 -0500 From: Jenna Melville Subject: Alanis This is my first post, so I guess a hello is in order, HI there!! So about Alanis, I really don't think that she gay. I've heard in the past that her change in style (from bad Canadian pop singer to alternative/rock ) was partially due to a bad breakup with her boyfriend. So that's my $.02. Jenna. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:24:21 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: KFOG's giving away front row tix... heads up for BAB folk - KFOG (104.5/97.7) is giving away yet another pair of front row seats during annalisa's shift (sometime between now and 3 pm). annalisa said that she spoke to mary at MEIN earlier this morning, and mary is going to call her back with a question that only "real fans" would know the answer to. so tune in, and call 1-800-808-KFOG (-5364) if you know the answer. i would imagine that the question will be more difficult than the mickey mouse one that i got a couple of weeks ago, so bone up on your FAQ. good luck :-) *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:05:00 +0100 From: Birgit Simbuerger Subject: german fan Hallo all, I�m from Germany and of course a big Melissa fan. Who else from Germany is out there ? Would love to hear from you (all others are surely welcome too).bye [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:07:00 +0100 From: Birgit Simbuerger Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 1 Dec 1996 to 2 Dec 1996 Tanja Wodrich wrote: Hi all, Every day I look forward to translating the DIGEST. It is also a little bit difficult for me to read all the sites , because English is not my native language.So please ignor my faults or better correct it (only privately) ********** Where are you from ? Maybe Germany ? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 11:59:38 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: KFOG front row tix - update i said in my previous email that KFOG will be giving away the pair of front row tix for the 12/17 SF MLE show "sometime between now and 3 pm". update: the tix will be given away between 2 and 3 pm this afternoon. *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:45:11 -0800 From: Tim Dunker Subject: 38 hours left Hello everyone, in 38 hours my plane leaves Frankfurt and in about 54 hours I will be in LA. So I will only get any emails for the next 24 hours because I will leave for my parents house at about 4pm Eastern Time. The next time I will be able to check my emails is December 25th. So wish me all luck, I will have about 2800 miles of driving to see all these eight shows. I am really looking forward to meet Listmembers at all the shows. I am ready for it !!!!!!!! Wish you all a Merry Christmas and take care. Bye Tim Dunker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:07:46 -0800 From: beth stikkers Subject: much to my pleasent surprise Hi all--I am usually a lurker but I decided to write a little something because this morning I was so pleasently surprised. Getting my coffee and opening up the morning paper to find a near full page picture and article of Melissa in the Entertainment section!! It was in the Modesto Bee--but I imagine it would be in other papers in Northern CA. The article is written by A. Scharnhorst of the Kansas City Star--titled "Life Without Secrets: Melissa's music pales beside baby hoopla" WOW--what a good day I am having because of my surprise. The article is about both her music and the baby stuff--nothing much new as far as info. but I think it is a nice article. Nice big picture of her too! She talks about the 20/20- interview and all the coverage she is getting b/c of the baby--and at the end of the article she talks about her fans. It's basically in the paper b/c of her upcoming concerts in SF and Sac. --If no one else finds this--I'd be happy to post the article for ya--just let me know. I'm gonna go buy 3 more copies of it--if someone cannot find it and wants it. =) beth who is having a great day re-reading my paper! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 17:03:02 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: DC gathering at the Arizona Short and sweet as I'm running out the door .... See all you cool MElisters tomorrow night at the Arizona !!! Don't forget those cameras !!!! Beth (the HDCM - on the move again.....) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:10:46 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: duh - at least give out the right number at least i could give out the correct number - the *real* number to call for the KFOG tix is: 1-800-300-KFOG (-5364) *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 14:31:08 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: still easy - but this time there were 3 questions the questions that mary from MEIN came up with were: 1) melissa's bday (month and day only) 2) melissa's middle name 3) what are melissa and julie going to name their baby? the first person who got through got the tix - if "norma" is here, congrats! see ya in the front row... btw, KFOG is giving away another pair next friday on "front row friday" sometime during annalisa's shift (11:00 am - 3:00 pm). good luck! *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:39:42 -0800 From: Andrea Tan Subject: KFOG's Front Row Friday I was alerted to the time by BAB cheerleader John, who got it from Foghead, Rhondda...so I thought I'd tell you guys what the 3 questions were: 1. When is Melissa's birthyday...month and day only 2. What's her middle name 3. What are they going to name their kid? and surprise...I full-on blanked on her birthday!!! John, didn't I tell you my freakin' memory wasn't going to allow me to answer any questions without a few minutes of research??? D'oh Yes, I used to keep them all...shh, I'm trying to find some mention of a happy birthday... ARGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...Norma won the tickets! MLE's birthday's on May 29th...yeah, yeah, yeah, I *know* you all knew that...I thought it was May 23rd. Argh. Oh well...luckily I already have tickets...not FRONT ROW but doable. Sorry I disappointed you all ...guess I'm not a Real Fan(tm)...can I still hang here? I'll be sure to look for Rhondda shaking it up front... =) Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:26:16 -0500 From: David Johnson Subject: Some upcoming ME appearances. Excerpt from MEINmail (reprinted without permission): > As 1996 comes to a close, VH1 has come up with a special "VH1 Artist > of the Year" viewer's choice award, with this year's twelve up for > nomination. > VH1 will be offering viewers the chance to vote for their favorite > artist of the year as part of an on-air sweepstakes contest. The > winner of the "VH1 Artist of the Year" award will be announced on > December 31 during Casey Kasem's Top 50 Countdown of '96. The winning > artist will have the privilege of being the VH1 on-air host for a day > and will get a chance to play their favorite videos sometime during > January 1997. > VH1 has set up a a special toll-free number that fans are encouraged > to call to cast their vote for "VH1 Artist of the Year". That number > will be 1-888-444-3624. Voting will begin the coming Monday, December > 9th. > To mark the special programming event, VH1 will air a series of > specials profiling all of this year's "Artists of the Month" everyday > for two weeks. A new, half-hour special will air weekdays at 11:30 AM, > 3:30 PM, and 8:30 PM (ET/PT) from Monday, Dec. 9 - Friday, Dec. 20. > Prime time airings will be part of a two-hour block featuring > concerts, video collections and "VH1 to One" specials. All twelve > half-hour specials will also air in a weekend stunt on Dec. 14 and 15 > from 1:00 - 4:00 PM (ET/PT). > Melissa's special day will be Thursday, December 12th. (You should be > able to view VH1's online schedule for next week beginning Monday at > http://www.vh1.com/progsked.html). > In addition to Melissa, the 1996 Artists of the Month are: The Artist > Formerly Known as Prince (January), Joan Osborne (February), Don > Henley (March), Sting (May), Hootie & The Blowfish (June), Gloria > Estefan (July), Tom Petty (August), John Mellencamp (September), > Sheryl Crow (October), Celine Dion (November), and Toni Braxton > (December). > In other news... > Melissa will be appearing on the Mark and Brian Show Tuesday, December > 10th. The syndicated show airs on the following (primarily Western) > radio stations: > KLOS - Los Angeles 95.5 > KGON - Portland, OR 92.3 > KKLV - Honolulu, HI 98.5 > KSLY - San Luis Obispo 96.1 > KBFX - Anchorage, AK 100.5 > KTMT - Medford, OR 93.7 > KCLB - Palm Springs 93.7 > KLSK - Albuquerque 104.1 > KBAB - Bakersfield 106.3 > KHOP - Modesto 95.1 > KHTR - Pullman, WA 104 > KDIG - Chico, CA 106.7 > KISZ - Farmington, NM/Durango, CO 97.9 > KKHG - Tuscon 104.1 > KRQC - Monterey, CA 92.7 > KHWI - Hilo, HI 100.3 > KTBR - Coos Bay, OR 94.1 > KSZL - Barstow, CA 1230AM > WWUC - Union City, TN 106 > If you're able to catch any of the above stations, you'll have to call > the station in question or check local listings for exact air times > for the Mark and Brian Show. > Also.... > Melissa will be performing on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno on > December 19th at 11:35 pm Eastern Time. Check your local listings for > the exact time this shows is broadcast in your area. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 18:40:20 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Those front row seats Rhondda said: <> ...and hopefully the winners will have a good time and enjoy themselves or at least act like it! Jill ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 5 Dec 1996 to 6 Dec 1996 - Special issue **************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Sat Dec 7 00:00:59 1996 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:00:22 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 6 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 20:33:17 +0000 From: Monica Jenkins Subject: Merry X-mas War is over. Hi MElisters, Just wanted to let you know that I have a copy of this song. I have a 3 1/2 minute version and a 7 minute version. If anyone would like a tape made of this you can e-mail me privatly and we will work something out. Merry Christmas to you all! "Be strong Speak True Spread the Peace" Melissa Etheridge Monica [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 19:11:10 -0700 From: Joyce Stoliar Subject: I've Been Out Of Touch Too Long >From: Joyce Luck >Subject: Etheridge Writes RS > >Hi y'all > >Somebody posted this on AOL and so I thought you'd all be interested: > >>>I just got the newest issue of RollingStone (Pamela Anderon w/ Beavis and >Butthead on the cover) and came across the CUTEST tidbit penned by none other >than Melissa herself. In the front section where they publish letters to the >editor I see a section entitled > >MELISSA ETHERIDGE WATCH > "Thanks for running the dorkiest picture of me onstage that I have ever >seen. Jeez!" > Melissa Etheridge > Burbank, Calif.<< > >Burbank, eh? Hmmmm..... > >Anyway, I think it's awfully cute that she didn't say anything about the >negative review. Now here's a woman with a sense of humor. > >Later, >Joyce Joyce, Which picture and article in RS was Melissa referring to? I guess I have been clued out for a little too long. Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:47:52 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: The Dorky Rolling Stone Photo Hi, Joyce Stoliar asked which picture Melissa was objecting to. It ran in the Nov. 14 issue of Rolling Stone, the one with Sheryl Crow on the cover. There's a review on page 44 of Melissa playing the Target Center (MN) and right above it is the "dorky" photo. I have to admit, the expression *is* rather on the dorky side. Melissa sorta looks like she's got...um...an overbite. And a kind of "what the heck are they doing out there?" look on her face. Maybe somebody was taking her bra off or something.... I digress. But Melissa just charmed the socks off of me by writing that letter! The Other Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:19:17 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Those mellow folks Rhondda wrote: <> Nope, no physical maladies that I could spot, since they had no problem making several trips between their seats and the concession stand. And I have *no problem* with mellow people. Some of my best friends are mellow. :) But the people I was referring to in my post were downright DOUR. And I feel embarrassed for Melissa, playing her heart out in front of a bunch of seemingly walking dead. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 23:01:19 -0500 From: Sasha Friedman Subject: Re: Audience behavior In a message dated 96-12-04 19:36:24 EST, [email protected] (Jill Barry) writes: >When I was in the third row at Nissan (Va) in August, practically the entire >front row sat and ate during most of the show. I shot many disapproving >looks their way and had to hold back the urge to smack every last one of >them. That's what you get when radio contest winners and record people and >their friends get the best seats....ggrrrrrrrrrr! Yeah .. how bout them security uards too, I was down by the front of the first sec. and I had to go to the bathroom, and when I came back, it was her normal little in the audience set, and so I stayed there and watched, and a security guard gave me brief warning, and said "Melissa's coming off this way" and then slammed me into the wall. I was not happy. It's a dangerous place... you know some woman died there at the Dave Matthews show, two days after Melissa (*she fell down the steps, in the back going to the lawn, if you have ever bethere that is a mighty big tumble) Anyways There were also many people sitting around me, they weren't eating but I was shot many negative looks when my friend and I were dancing. Oh well.. I still had a great time... Back to Lurking sasha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 22:14:51 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: (no subject) If no one else finds this--I'd be happy to post the article for ya--just let me know. I'm gonna go buy 3 more copies of it--if someone cannot find it and wants it Hey, will you post it for those of us that can't get it??? Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:14:56 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: her middle name?! So what is her middle name?! Thanks. -marcy ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 6 Dec 1996 ********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Sun Dec 8 00:00:49 1996 Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 00:00:09 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 6 Dec 1996 to 7 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 00:11:21 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: We have a... Hello... Just wanted to let you know that I have someone who is gonna buy the CD from me... =) Thanks for all the responses... Kiva [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 21:21:13 -0800 From: beth stikkers Subject: article from modesto bee For those who didn't get to read it =) enjoy! ~beth >From the Modesto Bee entertainment section 12/6/96 (reprinted w/o permission) "Life Without Secrets : Melissa's music pales beside baby hoopla." by A. Scharnhorst Kansas City Star Melissa Etheridge has always opened herself up for the world to judge. Her life story is spread out among five albums--all the heartache, fear, longing, disappointment and anger. With each new record, the Leavenworth, Kan., native has seen her following and reputation grow. Her decision four years ago to openly discuss her homosexuality has done little to daunt that. What it has done, however, is put her life under a magnifying glass and establish her as a kind of poster child for the lesbian community. In the past month, she and her partner, filmmaker Julie Cypher, have been featured on the cover of Newsweek magazine and on ABC's "20/20." Both stories have discussed the couple's decision to start a family. (Cypher is due to have a baby, already named Austin, in January.) Etheridge also was the featured artist on VH-1's "Storytellers," was mentned on the cover of Rolling Stone and was nominated for a VH-1 Fashion Award for the video version of "Your little Secret." "It's a lot of major national coverage all of a sudden," she says with a laugh, speaking in that trademark husky lilt. She breathes a sigh at the mention of how well the "20/20" interview had gone. "Oh," she pauses. "I'm glad. ...We were scared." Under the spotlight the woman who shares her soul with the world is suddenly feeling a little bit nervous. She admits that sharing her life with her fans in song is one thing, but opening herself up for public scrutiny is another. "We've always kind of been in a bubble," she said. "We live in liberal Los Angeles, and everyone around us is so supportive, and we never have really been confronted. And with this, we were opening ourselves up for that...(and) they certainly did confront us." On the show, Etheridge and Cypher came across as committed, loving partners who were just concerned about raising a healthy, happy child--exactly the way they wanted to be presented, Etheridge said. "We were hoping that we said the right thing, and we didn't get emotional. We just wanted to be cool." For everyone but her fans, the hoopla over the baby has overshadowed Etheridge's music. It can be argued that Etheridge has grown considerably as a songwriter and vocalist since her first album, but critics are still taking her to task for her "blue-collar" lyrics and her straight-ahead rock style. Etheridge has learned to laugh about it--particularly that Rolling Stone cover mention that referred to a disappointing concert review. "What is that all about, huh?" she asks with partly feigned credulity. She continues, answering her own question. "It's sort of the good news and the bad news, you know. The good news is, you're known (enough) that the publishers know that if they put your name on the cover, they'll sell some magazines. But the bad news is, it's a lukewarm review. So I don't know. I have to put (on) a positive spin." The blue-collar references that critics make to the "Your Little Secret" record are actually descriptions of Leavenworth. Those writers have taken umbrage with the lines in "Nowhere to Go" that refer to the old Leavenworth Wal-Mart, the federal penitentiary, Leavenworth's rail yards, the Veterans Hospital and the Missouri River. But they're familiar pictures to any kid who grew up in the Midwest in the 1970s--and the song conveys all-too-familiar feelins for most small-town teen-agers. Etheridge's Kansas upbringing was anything but blue-collar. Her father, who died several years ago, was a high school teacher. Her mother, who lives in Arkansas, worked at Fort Leavenworth in the computer simulation war-gaming area, she said. Etheridge certainly has high-tech fans, some of who gather twice a week on America Online to discuss her music and her life. One fan has even put together maps of Leavenworth, pointing out the Wal-mart, the prison and other landmarks. Etheridge is honored--but clearly amused--at the thought. "Poor Leavenworth...They're known for a prison and the most famous homosexual," she pauses and her voice trails off. "Whatever." Etheridge's fans seem to feel a particular pride of ownership where's she is concerned-particularly but not exclusively the lesbian women who believe that she speaks for them. During Etheridge's emotionally charged performance last month in St. Louis, one such fan talked about her disappointment that Cypher and Etheridge are not discussing the legal and medical details of Cypher's pregnancy. But Etheridge sticks by her decision to keep some family matters private. She thinks she has found a way to please most of her fans without compromising herself. But other fans... "It's really difficult because it will never be enough. No matter what I do. ...Unless I were to go to their house and have dinner with them, it would never be enough," she said. "They get frustrated that I speak openly about my relationship, but I haven't written a song about a woman. There's just no end to it. That's the way of the world. You have to find your place and say, 'This is where I am, this is the way I'm going to be.' "I learned a long time ago (that) I just have to draw my lines and do what feels right and good for me." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 23:54:35 -0700 From: VERONICA FRESCAS Subject: Response Elaine wrote: > VERONICA wrote: > >> It's a drag when people don't know how to behave properly at a > >> concert. > And what do you consider proper behaviour to be at a concert? And is > proper behaviour at one concert necessarily proper behaviour at > another concert? I guess the word i was looking for was "appropriate" behaviour. When one is at a rock concert, one should be dancing, jumping around--in short having a good time. Not sitting down and getting upset at others who spent just as much, if not more money, than they did for dancing. If you want to sit down sit in your den in front of your television set and watch VH1 or MTV for your concerts, that way people won't be in your way. And of course, what is appropriate at one concert is inappropriate at another. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 02:56:35 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: nmec - Alanis Virginia asked: >> there is any truth to it... Is Alanis Morrisette gay? Are you planning on sleeping with her? If not, why is her personal life any of your business? Jenna wrote: >> So about Alanis, I really don't think that she gay. I've heard in >> the past that her change in style (from bad Canadian pop singer to >> alternative/rock ) was partially due to a bad breakup with her >> boyfriend. And what does a change in musical style have to do with sexual orientation? Is Michael Bolton gay because he changed from heavy metal to shlock? Is Tori Amos gay because she changed from "rock chick" to what she does now? People like Joni Mitchell, Michelle Shocked and Joe Jackson must be awfully confused because they change styles on practically every album. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 01:04:31 -0800 From: Lisa Richards Subject: Crowds/My First Time... I was glad that the first several rows were on their feet when I saw her. Originally I had seats in the bleachers for the YIA tour in Tacoma and I left my friends and went off to cruise the crowd (couldn't help myself - there was soooo much to see!!). When the lights went down and she came on stage I was compelled to go up closer and did. To my surprise there were three open seats in the second row left side. I waited for the security dude to look the other way and when he did I slipped right in. I stood there expecting at any moment to be kicked out by Mr. Security or the owners of these prime location seats. Neither happened and I stayed completely captivated by the performance of this very talented woman! I kicked myself for never seeing her before - but vowed never to miss another show. What an experience that was and emotional too... many memories associated with YIA and all that. I never told my friends where I went only said I needed to be alone which they understood knowing how shattered my heart was at the time. So I stood there balling my eyes out most of the time and gained a new appreciation for Melissa - especially for her song "Dance Without Sleeping." Can't wait for Friday's show! It was also so amazing how many old friends I saw there! Folks I hadn't seen in years. It's funny how some (probably most) of us wymmin start dating someone, move in together and then lose touch with our friends... You never see them again until they break up or in some way become single again - or at a Melissa concert... - llr ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 06:23:21 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: The Dorky Rolling Stone Photo Joyce Luck wrote: > right above it is the "dorky" photo. I have to admit, the expression *is* > rather on the dorky side. Melissa sorta looks like she's got...um...an > overbite. And a kind of "what the heck are they doing out there?" look on > her face. Maybe somebody was taking her bra off or something.... Musta been Alex practicing for the flashing of her breasts in NM!!! -- [email protected] Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same A persons greatest emotional need is to feel appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 09:09:06 -0500 From: Julie Strietelmeier Subject: Questions I'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself and ask a few questions. First my name is Julie Strietelmeier and I'm from Columbus, IN. I've just recently become a Melissa Etheridge addict. :-) I attended her concert in Indianapolis this past Oct. and since then, I've been hooked. Now to the questions: I've got all ME's american released CDs but I hear there are imports... where can I buy them? Does anyone know when/if ME will be on the Rosie O'donnald show? ...And now for my strangest question: I happened to be watching VH1's 'Pop up Videos' show and saw a Meatloaf video of "I would do anything for love". Towards the end of this video, there is a female singer that is only identified as Ms.Loud. I would bet money that it's ME. Does anyone know if I'm correct? ______________________________________________ Julie Strietelmeier Email: [email protected] Web: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/4121 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 10:56:19 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Pink Caddy, Small Crowd Theory I saw Joan Osbourne last year and she was good! I am not itching to see her again either. I am itching to see Sheryl Crowe!!! She is excellent live!! I love her new album too! I saw a great show here in philly for anyone into Modern Rock. WDRE put on its Christmas Show Thursday night and there were some great bands!! Two female artists...Fiona Apple was super and Tracy Bohomn just rock the 4,000 people who gathered for the electric event!! I saw Tracy back in July on the Summerland Tour (my job was promoting the tour) and she was good. But I was just taken back this time!! :-) Thought I would share! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 11:43:31 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: Questions Hiya, Julie, and welcome to the list. >>Towards the end of this video, there is a female singer that is only identified as Ms.Loud. I would bet money that it's ME. Does anyone know if I'm correct?<< It's not Melissa. But I'll be darned if I can recall who it is....anybody else rememer the woman's name? Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:40:33 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: flashin' tassels... Gwen Shinko - aka *doe eyes*, aka Gwen Travolta, aka Gwen Astaire - wrote: >I got a call the other day from one of our D.C. Metro Macarena listers, >Colleen Lanthrip. Colleen and her lifepartner, Linda, were planning to >attend the dance this Sat. mainly to see if Beth really is gonna flash her >tassels. (g) (rolling eyes) rot roh... HEY !!! That was a private joke girl !!!! *You* are in sooooo much trouble. Good thing big *bad* Jen's gonna be there to protect you tonight :) Beth (guessing that now everyone showing up at the Arizona tonight is gonna want to see those HDCM tassels...sheesh...*women*...) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:00:20 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: BRVNCRZY If your car has the subject line on its (NY) plate, please e-mail me. I saw you yesterday. -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) [email protected] http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 16:51:56 EST From: "Sue Lambert (IEC)" <[email protected]> Subject: annalisa Rhondda wrote: >btw, KFOG is giving away another pair next friday on "front row >friday" sometime during annalisa's shift (11:00 am - 3:00 pm). good >luck! > >*rhondda* Is that the same annalisa from Boston, who used to be on WBCN? She was cool and I'm just wondering if you ever heard her mentioned that. curious, Ellyn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:09:28 -0800 From: susan allen Subject: INVALID URL Deb, Okay, I'll try one more time...maybe this will work: http://members.aol.com/TEALJONES/etheridge.html If not...search under melissa etheridge print...it is really simple to find. Have fun!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 22:42:03 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Toys, been a long time since I Rock N Rolled... Been way too long since I reared my head here on the list but as some of you know things have been somewhat complicated as of late but I'm recovering. Anyway...big thanks to Lori for her WAY OFF THE WALL postings. She is even funnier in person(had the pleasure of meeting her in DC). On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Lori Rehfeldt wrote: > After that she broke out the Monopoly game. Whoa, >that was one long night. The best was BATTLESHIP. Always my favorite game, maybe this had something to do with me pursueing a Naval career??? So how many of the BAB will be around during the Holiday time frame? How many other listers will be in the Bay Area visiting as well. Myself, Patty(The Lone Wrangler) and SueD will be around the week before Christmas and will be accessible via John Juan DeMiller while in town so PLEASE come party and visit with us! Well it is bed time for me, have to rise and shine tomorrow and play Battleship. Shirl Home page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 6 Dec 1996 to 7 Dec 1996 ************************************************ From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Mon Dec 9 00:00:57 1996 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 00:00:19 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 7 Dec 1996 to 8 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 02:03:45 -0600 From: John Taylor Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 6 Dec 1996 to 7 Dec 1996 Hello, hello! I'm new to this list, though not new to Melissa, and wanted to introduce myself. I also wanted to touch on something, hopefully without starting a flame war: At the St. Louis concert, there were a number of women, as there are with all ME concerts. This is cool. But I was surrounded, in front and behind, by groups of people talking and carrying on DURING Melissa's songs and spoken intros - yelling so they could be heard amongst themselves over the pa. I drove 5 hours each way to see that concert. I came to hear her. Like the rest of you, Melissa's music touches me, and some of the songs are sacred to me, remind me of very special moments in my life. For these people to be carrying on and talking about irrelevant stuff as though it was a bar and Melissa wasn't performing live was incredibly vulgar, self-centered behavior. Their carrying on actually ruined 3 songs for me, cause I couldn't hear them. Someone commented that proper behavior for a concert was subjective. I disagree. What you bought with your 35 bucks is the right to a spot, sitting unless everyone in front of you is standing, to LISTEN to the performer. Your right to do as you like stops when you interfere with someone else's ability to do what people gathered there for in the first place; No one has the right to disrupt another's ability to hear/see/enjoy the concert. Such inconsiderate behavior is beyond belief, especially amongst ME fans. I'd have thought we would be more sensitive than that. I HOPE none of you were the ones acting this way. Next time I go, I guess I'll have to be sure to get front row seats, no matter how much they cost, so I can get the show. Now... I'm glad to be here, and glad that, from what I've been told, this is a good, solid group of ME fans. I've been in MEIN for a while now, but find them to be just after our money. So... check out my webpage, and all, and I'll be hearing from ya, talking w/ ya all later. Keep it precious, John http://galstar.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 02:10:55 -0600 From: John Taylor Subject: My homepage URL Uhm... Hit SEND too soon. The URL for my hompage is below. John -- = "I remember how you used to love.... to dance." http://galstar.com/~falconer HOMEPAGE REVAMPED Sat.12/7/96 - Come check it out! mailto:[email protected] =A91996 John "Taylor" Yezeguielian - All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 06:18:10 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: behaviour, Meatloaf VERONICA wrote: >> I guess the word i was looking for was "appropriate" behaviour. >> When one is at a rock concert, one should be dancing, jumping >> around--in short having a good time. "One should"? I didn't know there was a law or handbook for concert going. Could you quote the law/tell me the name of the handbook? What is "appropriate" for you may not be appropriate for others. Some people don't dance and don't wish to make idiots of themselves in public (unfortunately not the people who are usually sitting in front of me). What about people who can't dance - are you going to tell people who are disabled (forgive me if this is not the pc term) to get up and dance? Some people may have a disability or illness and it may not be visible. Should they be forced to disclose the nature of their disability/illness to you? Why not just respect them? Do you stand up at a play? In a movie theatre (Rocky Horror Picture Show doesn't count)? Some people can have a good time without dancing and jumping around. >> Not sitting down and getting upset at others who spent >> just as much, if not more money, than they did for dancing. I go to a concert to *see* the artist - not some person's fat ass in my face and not to have to worry that that person who thinks they can dance is going to fall on top of me with their idiotic spastic movements. It's hard to enjoy oneself when worrying about personal injury. If you want to dance, go to the back of the hall or in the aisles where you're not blocking people's view or crashing into people. >> If you want to sit down sit in your den in front of your television >> set and watch VH1 or MTV for your concerts, First you dictate how people should behave at a concert, now you're dictating where we should live. Guess what, MTV and VH-1 are not available in every country, hell they're not even available to everybody in the US. Since I don't get either of these stations and I don't like to dance at concerts, what SHOULD I do? Julie asked: >> Does anyone know when/if ME will be on the Rosie O'donnald >> show? She was scheduled to be on last month but the day of the taping there was a fire in the studio. She hasn't been rescheduled yet. >> singer that is only identified as Ms.Loud. I would bet money that >> it's ME. Does anyone know if I'm correct? Hope you didn't bet too much. Melissa was offered the part and what I think happened was that somebody made a demo of the part Meatloaf wanted Melissa to sing and she did a good job so she was hired. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 07:40:42 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: concert behavior. annalisa, Shirl's visit VERONICA FRESCAS wrote: >When one is at a rock concert, one should be dancing, >jumping around--in short having a good time. Aw shucks... wish I'd been told this rule 37 years ago when I saw my first major live concert (Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong)... Ella and Louis were dancing on the stage, so I guess I should have taken that as a hint. All those years following when I saw Jimi Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin, Cream, etc would have been much more enjoyable if I had only known *all* the rules. I shudder to think what a faux pas I made by not dancing and jumping around in the tiny packed clubs where I first saw Melissa performing back in '88... guess none of us are too old to learn something new. Gee, I thought I was having a *great* time . ---- Ellyn ("Sue Lambert (IEC)" <[email protected]>) asked: >Rhondda wrote: >>btw, KFOG is giving away another pair next friday on "front row >>friday" sometime during annalisa's shift (11:00 am - 3:00 pm). good >>luck! > >Is that the same annalisa from Boston, who used to be on WBCN? She was >cool and I'm just wondering if you ever heard her mentioned that. I *think* she's the same Annalisa, but it's been some time since I heard her on WBCN (one of my favorite FM stations), and my aural memory is not what it used to be... we should know the answer soon, as I just sent her email asking your question. ---- Shirley Hoffman , my favorite sailor, wrote: >So how many of the BAB will be around during the Holiday time frame? How >many other listers will be in the Bay Area visiting as well. Myself, >Patty(The Lone Wrangler) and SueD will be around the week before >Christmas and will be accessible via John Juan DeMiller while in town so >PLEASE come party and visit with us! Shirl, I can hardly wait! I've been keeping the BAB alerted to your visit for weeks, so we're all anxious for another chance to party with you... the Bay Area hasn't been the same since your last visit. And is that Deb I hear laughing about the nickname she gave me? :) John Miller San Jose Ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:04:01 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Audience behaviour Jill Barry started the "Strange Behavior" thread about audience who don't know how to enjoy the show. It's a bummer when you want to enjoy the concert, and the audience around doesn't. Human nature dictates that you act the same way as the crowd you're in. Human nature is very strong, and we all have it. So of course it's hard to really enjoy yourself when surrounded drunks, slobs, and semi-fans. Well as far as I'm concerned, a lot of the fun of a Melissa concert is rockin' with Melissa and her boys! I enjoy them so much that NOTHING can stop me from and rocking to the music, and singing the words. Right from the first note, I'm on my feet, my arms are in the air, and I'm feeling good. A couple of times I've felt a little lonely, acting so silly. So I decided, the people around me simply needed somebody to show them the "correct" way to have fun at a Melissa concert. I know that Melissa and the boys notice this, they like it -- in my report on the Dallas show, I bragged about how Melissa and Kenny gave me their double-handshake, when they left the stage. It was a real nice handshake, a way of telling me that they like it when the fans enjoy them. So that's my advice to you, next time you're in a dull crowd. To hell with them! Rock on, have fun, show them how! -- Dan in Toronto [email protected] http://www.canscape.com/dancohen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:26:05 -0500 From: Jen Smith Subject: Attendance, Ticket Sales Curiosity, Venue Sizes (again) In a message dated 96-12-07 01:56:16 EST, [email protected] (VERONICA FRESCAS) writes: >I guess the word i was looking for was "appropriate" behaviour. When one is at a >rock concert, one should be dancing, jumping around--in short having a good time. >Not sitting down and getting upset at others who spent just as much, if not more >money, than they did for dancing. I'm not sure that there is any such thing as "appropriate" behavior at a rock concert. There is, IMO, *in*appropriate behavior. This would have to include getting so trashed/stoned/whatever that you are falling over people, stepping on people, spilling beer on people, etc...you get the pic. I've been known, however, to sit through a concert if the mood did not strike me to get up and dance. A lot of it might depend upon the performers themselves. I've said it before, and I'll probably say it again, but I can't help but think that a lot of recently reported MIssyLouConcertBlahs (hmm...ok, TM) can most likely be attributed to the YLS material. I skipped the Indy show this time around and most of the folks I've talked to didn't much care for the show (a few, however, really liked it). This brings me to a question that I haven't heard anyone raise...is there a possibility that promoters are lowering ticket prices at the last minute to get people into the venues and beef attendance totals? I know that the Cranberries did this on several occasions last summer...the day of the show, if ticket sales were sluggish, they would offer 'two-fers' to get more people to attend. Of course, it could be out of the question with MLE since she's probably a higher draw to begin with...but it's an interesting thought anyhow. I can honestly see her taking a couple of years off from touring and starting back up again with slightly smaller venues. If she's only packing in 5-6,000 per show, it would be worth her while, IMO, to draw audiences in to smaller venues, give them a taste of "MLE--Up Close and Personal" and not turn people off with poor sound/seating/vision, etc. I, for one, would be *more* than willing to shell out $50/$60 per ticket and maybe even join MEIN in hopes of getting terrific seating if I knew she was going to play a decent venue. She'd retain a steadier attendance at her shows instead of having to rely on new material to draw in new listeners. Ok...off my soapbox and shutting my ramble box ;-) jen, who tried to make holandaise sauce this morning, failed miserably, and will accept any and all sympathy that comes her way (this only means something to anyone else who has ever screwed up holandaise sauce......). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:43:21 -0600 From: Tracey Thacker Subject: Audience Behavior Greetings. . . First, Happy Hannukah to all who may celebrate. . . Secondly, I've been reading this thread about concert behavior with some amusement. I love that there are "rules" for attending shows. I've never been one to outright dance at a concert, so I guess I'm breaking a rule. Hmm. Perhaps I should stay home and watch all my concerts on TV. But then again, I think there's another group who should be banned from watching concerts at home on TV - the ones who also come out to the live shows as well. Why? Because it seems that oftimes, some folks forget that they aren't sitting in their dens, and when they get up and go for their 5th beer, passing in front of every soul in their row, don't realize how annoying that is. They figure that because they've pressed pause in their brains, everyone else has as well. Or because they're tired of ITOO, no one else needs to hear it without the interruption of three (why do three people need to go to get three beers) beered-up rowdy chicks stomping on their toes. IMO, that's inappropriate concert behavior. But who am I to talk? Off to pontificate elsewhere, Tracey Tracey Thacker <>[email protected] FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI Thanks to Steve Case, as of the 18th of December, 1996, my sole e-mail address will be [email protected] FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI FYI ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 13:23:22 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 6 Dec 1996 to 7 Dec 1996 I am sorry, but I need to express my feelimgs... Elaine, I can see from your posts that when someone says something that ignights something inside you, you speak your mind. That's great. But there are ways of saying how you feel without sounding like a slap in the face. I may be reading it the wrong way, but it really seems like you express your views on what people post in a very mean and vindictive way... I hope that I am wrong, being one to receive a comment from you mysefl, but if I am not I think you need to look at how you are *talking* to people... Words do hurt, especially when they are *spoken* in a hurtful way... This post was written with a calm, concerned voice. Not an angry or resentful one... Kiva [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 13:32:12 -0500 From: Tanja Wodrich <[email protected]> Subject: Yes I�am ...... Hi everyone, Birgit wrote: >>Where are you from ? Maybe Germany ? Hi Birgit, yes I... come from Germany and I live in Cologne. Welcome to this wonderful list !! But where are all the other big german Melissa fans??? I can' t believe that there is no one else on this list. Stop lurking... and please give us a sign. But quickly ....! :-)) Hope to hear from you . Take care all Tanja ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 13:34:59 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: Arizona gathering/birthday bash What FUN !!!!! Thanks to everybody for coming out and partying with the HDCM - I had a really great time - and hope all of you did too... Gwen - you're *still* the hostess with the mostest. I've decided that matchmaking is not your calling - hostessing is ! Who loves ya *baby*? :) :) Jen - anytime Gwen decides to go for the pay phone, I'll be waiting for the dance invite Joyce & Jennifer - the two of you looked oh so spiffy :) woo hoo !!! cut a rug... Jill Barry - hey girl, what can I say but - you're still "da bomb" ... but I can't believe you gave up the chick-o-stick for a toothbrush and a dress *lol* Dina & Mandy - you two young uns'... didn't think the old lady could keep up with ya huh? So, did she show you a thing or two on the dance floor or what? ... that should teach ya to *respect* your elders !!! hehehehe... I could barely walk this morning, but hey, you're both worth it :) 25 Mandy? Danielle & Julie - what can I say? I had soooo much fun when we all went to Memphis - I'll road trip with you anytime. I love you guys - thanks for coming and spending an evening with the crazy MElisters - now you two need to get on the list! Randy - thanks for the pic - it is totally AWESOME - and I will definitely have it framed and hang it in a place of honor (most likely - the bedroom ). I'm really glad you went along, and just remember, you still have approximately 11 more hours of my stories to listen to! And THANK GOD for DC cabs huh chick? :) :) BTW, I think the DC bathroom thing probably rivaled the 30 second Philly Pub Crawl event - it was just more *subtle* :) and the timing *sucked* AND for those of you who departed as things were getting started .... YES, her name was Peggy - and yes, the *magnetization* did not let me down.... like you had your doubts.... :) and that's *all* you need to know ! I can't wait to see how the pics turn out. Thanks everybody for the balloons, cards, drinks, and stuff... but the thing that made my evening was being with all of you. I love you guys !! Until next time... Beth (thinking how disappointed Colleen and Linda are gonna be when they find out that everyone else got to see the tassels last night !!!! hehehehe) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 13:42:50 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Behavior Hi all, Tracy Thacker wrote: <> I don't believe that! In response to Veronica, ELAINE wrote: >>What is "appropriate" for you may not be appropriate for others.>> True. <> If we are to subscribe to your way of breaking down everyone's discussions, then we can interpret that what you are saying is that people who do dance DO make idiots of themselves. <> Of course not. <> Respect...that could be another debate altogether here. <> Again, if we subscribe to your way of breaking down what other people have to say here, then we can interpret your statement as there being nothing but fat *sses at concerts. And people who are overweight stand a good chance of not appreciating your comments. <> People who want to dance have every right to be in that space that they paid for; why should they move? I agree, getting your view blocked if you don't want to stand/dance or people crashing into you is annoying. And of course, there is no "handbook" on "appropriate" behavior at a concert. People just have to work it out somehow so that they enjoy the concert. Unfortunately, as we have said here, there are no actual rules. Perhaps the best rule is flexibility, I don't know. I don't have the answer. If someone does, please let us know! All I wanted was discussion on audience behavior, not a flamewar. We are talking about concert behavior here, not life and death or "us vs. them" or something. Is it possible to be civil in our disagreements???? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 14:21:57 +0000 From: Dave Jackson Subject: VH-1 Fashion Awards Hey there everyone! :) I just finished reading the article which Beth posted. I was very impressed -- it came across as extremely positive, and I discovered a bit more about Melissa and her thoughts on her career. >and was nominated for a VH-1 >Fashion Award for the video version of "Your little Secret." I was surprised to see mention of this and am wondering where it came about. I wasn't able to watch the awards show and was curious as to if anyone knew anything about the criteria for such a nomination. >From what I can recall about the "Your Little Secret" video, there wasn't anything spectacular about the fashion statements...jeans and T-shirts pretty much said it all. Oh yeah, I forgot, that 'BRAD PITT RULES' T-shirt. *grin* Granted, the chain of people _was_ cool... Sincerely, Lisa J. :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "What is he _doing_?!" "Mashed potatoes." -Aidan Quinn, Mary Stuart Masterson "BENNY AND JOON" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 22:25:48 +0100 From: nynke tibbesma Subject: Melissa info wanted Hello everybody out there, I'm looking for material of Melissa for my fanclub called TWIR. This fanzine only (unfortunately) appears in Dutch but I' m looking for items from all over the world to fill my fanzine of Melissa with. So please respond to me if you have any interesting. Also video stuff (NTSC is not a problem), tapes, photo's etc. is welcome. I have many things to swap. Especially Storytellers and Sesamstreet are on my wanted list! I hope to hear from anyone. Nynke Tibbesma [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 16:36:32 -0500 From: Karen Di Donato Subject: Orange chocolate Did anyone ever list places to buy that Chocolate Orange? I was given one on Thanksgiving and now my s.o. would like to send one to her mom for Christmas. Can anyone help us find one? Thanks bunches <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Happy Holidays! Happy Holidays! Happy Holidays! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> [email protected] ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 7 Dec 1996 to 8 Dec 1996 ************************************************ From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Mon Dec 9 21:46:41 1996 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:46:02 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 8 Dec 1996 to 9 Dec 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 00:52:42 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 7 Dec 1996 to 8 Dec 1996 I promised myself I wasn't going to get involved in this, but guess that idea went nowhere... About this whole audience thing... People listen to and react to music, and the artists in so many different ways that it would be volumes of books to *capture* everyones reactions and expressions... I don't think there is a *right* or a *wrong* way to act at a concert. I have been to my share of shows where everyone is on their feet and singing and dancing, to shows where there isn't a sound in the arena aside from the music... All I can say, is that when you go to a show, be thankful that you are able to go. If you wanna dance and scream and sing, go for it... If you feel like sitting down and listening, have a blast... But I think that we all just need to respect each other, and especially the artist we go to see... Hey, have fun... Tha's what you go to a concert to do... And do it *any* way you want... Well, that's my $.02... I hope I didn't offend anyone or make anyone angry. I am not pointing fingers or anything like that... I notice sometimes people can ge mean and *sound* bitter when posting... It bothers me when I read posts like that. I just hope that those who make those comments that sound angry can let go of their negative energy... Or at least try... Put on Melissa and sing really loud. =) Always works for me... Peace, Kiva [email protected] @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ "Be strong, speak true and spread the peace..." Melissa Etheridge... @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 01:06:42 -0600 From: Tracey Thacker Subject: Re: Behavior At 01:42 12/8/96 -0500, Jill Barry wrote: >Hi all, > >Tracy Thacker wrote: ><> > >I don't believe that! Believe it, its true. I don't dance, aside from occasional bouts of stationary macarena-ing, I don't now and never have. I've had bad knees (multiple surgeries, and currently several big metal implants) for many a year, so dancing has never been my thing. >In response to Veronica, ELAINE wrote: >>>What is "appropriate" for you may not be appropriate for others.>> >True. ><public>> >If we are to subscribe to your way of breaking down everyone's discussions, >then we can interpret that what you are saying is that people who do dance DO >make idiots of themselves. My mother taught me an interesting thought that fits in with this. It was along the lines of this: "Remember, that no matter what you do, you're always an idiot in someone's eyes." So, from that standpoint, yes, people who dance do make idiots of themselves in the opinion of someone around them. If you're in Ottawa (or at Nissan Pavillion) it may be Elaine. If you're at Starlake, its likely me. Oh, no, wait, I'll only think you're an idiot if you trample my toes while making your umpteenth beer run. :-) Trace Tracey Thacker <>[email protected]<>[email protected] <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> "Well the weather outside is frightful, but the fire is so. . . Hot! OUCH! Hot! Hot! Aaargh! Flames! Help! Help!" <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 01:47:42 -0500 From: Jen Subject: Chocolate Orange Karen - I think Gevalia Kaffe import service has chocolate oranges. The number is 1-800-GEVALIA (438-2542). Jen The secret of Happiness is Freedom The secret of Freedom is Courage The secret of Courage is Love [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 01:56:40 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: behaviour John Miller wrote: >When one is at a rock concert, one should be dancing, >jumping around--in short having a good time. >> Aw shucks... wish I'd been told this rule 37 years ago when I saw >> my first major live concert (Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong) That wasn't a rock concert, John, and according to some people, we should engage in sexual activity to stay awake at jazz concerts. Dan wrote: >> It's a bummer when you want to enjoy the concert, and the audience >> around doesn't. What does it matter if you're not with those people? Are you at the concert for them or for you? Tracey Thacker queried: >> (why do three people need to go to get three beers) For the same reason women go to the bathroom in pairs? Kiva wrote: >> without sounding like a slap in the face. I may be reading it the >> wrong way, You are. >> but it really seems like you express your views on what people post >> in a very mean and vindictive way. Please quote what I wrote that you consider mean and vindictive and explain how it is. >> comment from you mysefl, but if I am not I think you need to look >> at how you are *talking* to people. And I think somebody who has been told not to post because of how she expresses herself should either have not written this message or written it privately. Jill Barry wrote: <> in public >> If we are to subscribe to your way of breaking down everyone's >> discussions, then we can interpret that what you are saying is that >> people who do dance DO make idiots of themselves. Who are "we" and how do they interpret "some" as being "all"? <> are disabled (forgive me if this is not the pc term) to get up and >> dance? >> >> Of course not. Perhaps you should tell that to the person who says that everybody SHOULD dance. >> then we can interpret your statement as there being nothing but fat >> *sses at concerts. If they had cute small asses I'd sit back and admire the view. Unfortunately that's a rare occurrence. >> And people who are overweight stand a good chance of not >> appreciating your comments. Likely they'd be more offended if I told them they should lose weight. >> People who want to dance have every right to be in that space that >> they paid for; why should they move? Because, as somebody else wrote, if the behaviour is affecting other people's ability to enjoy the concert, it is inappropriate. >> there is no "handbook" on "appropriate" behavior at a concert. Again tell that to the person who thinks certain behaviour is required at a concert. >> All I wanted was discussion on audience behavior, not a flamewar. And there isn't one. A flame, by definition, is insulting a person who wrote a post. That hasn't been done. >> Is it possible to be civil in our disagreements???? Who isn't being civil? I disagreed with the statement that certain behaviour was required at a concert. I didn't comment on the person who made the statement. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:02:58 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: civility On Dec. 8th Kiva wrote here to Elaine: ML> there are ways of saying how you feel without sounding like a slap in the face. And Jill wrote in general: ML>Is it possible to be civil in our disagreements???? I'd just like to say I agree with both of them (you brave and crazy girl, Kiva!) I know I don't like conflict, but...I come here to celebrate Melissa. She's such a positive force in my life. The woman is truly amazing. And I think most of us here have our love for her in common with each other. Sometimes, ususally I get afraid to post here cuz I'm afraid I'll get attacked. So maybe my lesson is to work thru that stuff...but I'd rather have a good time here, fun, amusement, information, sharing hard or sad times too is good. And disagreeing is ok, too, but as my mom would say..."I don't appreciate that tone of voice". -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:01:21 +0000 From: Margaret McArdle Subject: The missing boots Those on the list know that not being able to get to L.A. for the last concert has nearly had me running to Prozac (except from my work I know that a low % of takers can have psychotic side-effects so I thought it would be safer just be miserable as I've had terrible luck this year) Anyway on reading Veronica's post about the missing El Paso Leather boots left in Ireland I thought I'd make a few enquiries;(MLE has only played us twice since '88,Feb.& July of this year)knowing the Hotel Melissa used on her visits here I rang them putting on my best American accent telling this long and complicated story "my friend stayed there....now can't find her boots....etc elaborating an only the Irish can & would you believe that they have a pair left by a visitor this year!!!!!!!! I'm going to check them out this weekend,they're ankle boots--2 shades leather Does that sound right to anyone in the know????????? It goes without saying they'll be returned to their rightful owner if I'm successful, Wish me Luck, Margaret P.S I went to the Chicago concert in October and thought the crowd was MEGA ,God she toned down her performance for Ireland.....SL...need I say more ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 12:28:21 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Re: Civility Momma asks this question: " Now Thumper, what has your father always told you ?" And Thumper replies: " If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all! " ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:46:01 UT From: Tracy Minter Subject: Mrs. Loud and others 'Scuse me, but I'm behind on my mail, so these replies are a little late. But first, some sympathy time. Let me tell you about my break: I spent the day before thanksgiving in ER with some horrible ear infection and flu (and they wanted me to spend the night in the hospital - I suddenly got better), then the actual T-day in the car on a five-hour drive up north (in a lot of pain) to get to a wedding my guy was best-man in. Of course, I spent most of the time in the hotel (in pain), then spent Sunday (after T-day) on the same five-hour drive back to my in-laws - only this time it took over ten hours due to the traffic. I was still in pain. Feel sorry for me? It's over now, though, minus some ear pain. Ok, mec: Julie Strietelmeier asked (awhile ago) about Mrs. Loud in the Meatloaf song "Anything for love". She's part of a British group called Mr. And Mrs. Loud (or The Louds, or something like that). Sounds a ton like Bonnie Tyler, but I'm told it's not, although Tyler had the same producer for awhile and has performed with the Meat. ++++++++++ Dave Jackson or Lisa J. mentioned surprise that YLS video was nominated for a VH-1 Fashion Award. Actually, it was for the video style, not (obviously) for the performer's choice in clothes. I think they thought climbing a wall of people was pretty fashionable. Hey, new sport! +++++++++ One more thing, I'm moving in with my in-laws in DC come Xmas to work on my ill-fated job hunt. Are there going to be any more gatherings come January? I'm going to be lonely. Just me, two in-laws, two dogs and three cats. Thanks to deb for offering me advice on DC - I'll e-mail you questions. T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 10:04:06 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re[2]: Civility The always thoughtful Pooh wrote: >Momma asks this question: > > " Now Thumper, what has your father always told you ?" > >And Thumper replies: > > " If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all! " As my mother often said, "sometimes silence is the best disdain". John Miller - who watched the stars last night... with Pooh :) San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:25:03 EST From: Susan Stern Subject: Upcoming tape tree Hello out there, all you Melissa Etheridge fans! I know that it was mentioned that a tape tree of recent MLE-related stuff from tv would be set up sometime after the new year. Does anyone know exactly when? Here's my dilemma... I live in a dorm at Rutgers, and we have to be out of here by December 24th, and we can't stay here over the break. So that means I won't be around to check my email and I'll have to take my name off the mailing list for that time. We get back on January 20th so I can sign back up then. If the announcement for the tree goes out after that, no problem, I'll be here and ready to sign up. But if it happens before that I won't be able to. Any help/suggestions/answers/solutions for a fellow fan who doesn't have access all the time to cable tv and can't always tape Melissa when she's on? Thanks everyone... Donna College of Engineering, Rutgers University New Brunswick, NJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:46:15 -0500 From: Colleen Lanthrip Subject: Thanks-I'm back, HB-Beth Hey Kids!!!! I'm back at work today for the first time in a week. I haven't had much time to catch up on the digest but did read December 7ths. OK, OK! First, I have to thank those of you that sent the get well wishes, i really do appreciate them. That would be Gwen, Beth, Deb, Janis, Elizabeth Lytle, BeachDeb. Secondly....Beth.....I'm really upset that I missed tassel night, I hope to Goddess that someone took pics. And I do hope that you enjoy your Birthday on Thursday (same as mine, btw). Linda would not let me out of the house. I begged, pleaded and cried (& tried another method also but to no avail. I'm sorry I missed so much fun and I had heard that Dina & Mandy wouldn't be there, glad she could make it. And then I missed meeting some other listers I didn't know. Well, maybe another time. Now, the real story, no never mind I find Gwen's version more amusing, however, I'm not sure Linda will. I keep accusing Linda of pushing me off the ladder (the woman at the Hospital didn't think it was funny at all). And as for coming out of that closet.....well....Linda has had me bound and gagged for a week. I've really been grounded (get it? fell off the ladder and laid out on the floor? Well...not as good as the punsters). It will take my ankle about 8 weeks to heal....then I'll be ready for partying again. So, Jen & Gwen, get ready. Well, enough! Have a safe and happy holiday everybody. Back to lurking. Colleen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 13:55:30 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Appropriate audience behaviour Elaine pointed out: >What about people who can't dance - are you going to tell people who are >disabled (forgive me if this is not the pc term) to get up and dance? > On the Texas 3-concert tour, one of our group was wheelchair-bound. Even worse, her coordination was poor, she was pretty slow. We rocked around her. We rocked for her. We rocked with her. But always we left her with a clear view of Melissa. I think it worked out pretty good -- I saw a lot of smiles. >Some people may have a disability or illness and it may not be visible. > That happened to me at the Toledo concert. There was something about the girl sitting next to me -- she had no strength, and no endurance. Fortunately her mother was with her, too. I made sure that Mother knew that I was 'concerned', but that I liked to rock a lot at Melissa concerts. Mother was understanding, I was cautious. I think it worked for the girl. >Some people can have a good time without dancing and jumping around. Now, here's where I really disagree with Elaine. This happened to me last night: Last night I was at a Rock/Deli place. On Sunday nite the regulars fill the place and listen to a rock band, or (mostly) watch basketball on TV. When the band started playing LTWID (one of my favorites!) I was on my feet, I moved up to the front, I was rockin'. I sang along (quietly). The singer's body language told me that she enjoyed having company. Phew! what a rush! I had a good time. Those who were watching TV continued to do so. So again I say, when you're at a MLE concert: Rock on! -- Dan Cohen in Toronto [email protected] http://www.canscape.com/dancohen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 09:54:43 +0000 From: greg hawthorne Subject: hello Hello everybody This is my second time typing in. The first one was short and cheesy and I did not tell who I was. So here it goes. My name Is Danielle, I live in Chugiak Alaska. I have lived in Alaska all my life. I have been on the list for 14 days, so far so good. I have been a fan of ME since the first time I heard her, I just can't remember when that was. Maybe a year or two ago. Does not matter though I like her all the same. I have been wondering what LOL is. I see it alot here and on the net. Is there anyone else on the list from Alaska? Hey does anyone know if ME has ever been to Alaska? I don't think she has, because not many people come to Alaska. The only people who come to Ak are people like Boys To Men. I drew a blank can't think of anyone else. Well it was nice typing to you. Later. Danielle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:22:47 -0600 From: "Carol B. Dappert" Subject: Artist of the year THURSDAY, DECEMBER 12th 11:30 am - VH1 - Artist of the Year : profile of Melissa Etheridge (30 minutes; repeats at 3:30 pm and 8:30 pm) Set your VCRs! Carol Beth Dappert [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:28:53 EST From: DOUG Subject: concert behavior...Meatloaf Hello all, Welcome back to another faboo work week. It's cold. It's Monday. Hell...at least it is almost time for 11 days off! First - all this talk about concert behavior makes me think back to the concerts I've attended (which number less than 30 and none were ME!...yet!) I remember one show...Warrant, Trixter, and Firehouse (yes I used to listen to glam rock...loved it then and to be honest love it now. Cinderella still rocks as far as I'm concerned.) Anyhow, my friends and I are sitting just right of the stage...four rows up...great view...even greater noise. Before the show begins, the aroma of pot fills the air and we watch the cloud of haze rise to the ceiling...we of course catch a contact buzz (which later almost gets us kicked out of McDonalds for laughing) A girl...very skinny...very unattractive, from behind at least - she never turned around. Anyhow, between toots from her joint she would accept dollars from the guys in the pit and pull her shirt up revealing her breasts for all to see (except, thankfully, those of us lucky enough to be behind her) even the police saw and loved it. The point of this story is...sure she flashed her bazooms, sure she was smoking pot, but she was having fun...everyone was having fun. As long as no one was injured, maimed, or physically ill due to actions by the skinny, flashing girl or anyone else...who gives a flying fig. Enjoy yourself, cut loose, and don't expect every one else to be uptight and stoic. If you want good audience behavior - go to a country concert. Most everyone stays seated, everyone has a good time, and best of all - no skinny, flashing girl...oh sure occasionally one of the guy singers might take some drugs and pull his weinie out and show it to an undercover policeman but that never happens at the show...only in a local cruising area before or afterwards. 8-) Now on to Meatloaf (the singer not the food...sheesh) someone asked if we know who performs the female vocals in "I'd do anything for love" (she is credited only as Mrs. Loud) I understand that this lady is the same singer used on Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell album waaaay back in the 70s. I, personally, think that it is Bonnie Tyler but haven't found any solid evidence of that yet...of course, no one has proved to me that it isn't Bonnie either. That's enough for now. Doug PS - Renee...did you get me email on Thursday? If not, thanks for the birthday call...you're a sweetie and if I wasn't gay and you weren't either...we'd marry tomorrow. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:38:20 EST From: DOUG Subject: bazooms Hi again. To the ladies of the list... I hope no one was offended by the use of the word bazooms in my earlier post. It wasn't meant to be offensive just cute. In the context of my story...the word breast just wasn't funny and the alternative is, well, offensive. Now, to the men of the list... If you were offended by the word weinie in my post...get over it, there's a very limited way to say penis and make it funny. That's all. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 14:25:07 -0600 From: Patty Wilcox Subject: MLE Featured For those listers in the Chicago area, MLE will be the featured artist on WXRT (93.1 FM) this Friday, the 13th that is ... uh, oh... no one out there's superstitious now, are you? Keep Rockin' and Peace! The Lone Wrangler, who's getting her forehead ready for some holiday head butts with the BAB's ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:34:17 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: concert behavior...Meatloaf I hadn't planned to join this discussion at all, but I must respond to something Doug wrote. >Before the show begins, >the aroma of pot fills the air and we watch the cloud of haze rise to >the ceiling...we of course catch a contact buzz . . . The point of >this story is...sure she flashed her bazooms, sure she was smoking >pot, but she was having fun...everyone was having fun. As long as no >one was injured, maimed, or physically ill due to actions by the >skinny, flashing girl or anyone else...who gives a flying fig. If I ever do enter the political arena, no one is going to believe me, but I've never smoked pot, and I never plan to. I don't care if others partake; that's their business, but I have no interest in it. However, when I'm at a concert (or any public place,) I certainly don't appreciate the smell of pot. While you may catch a "contact buzz," it makes me nauseous which obviously detracts from my enjoyment of the concert. Cigarette smoke has almost the same effect on me. If a venue has a "No Smoking" policy, then people should refrain from smoking *anything* while inside the venue. Michelle "Sometimes I feel like an innocent one To deserve this fate what have I ever done" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:57:31 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: concert behavior...Meatloaf Michelle wrote: ***If I ever do enter the political arena, no one is going to believe me, ***but I've never smoked pot, and I never plan to. I don't care if others First, I'd believe you. But then again, I don't care whether a candidate smoked some weed in the past as long as that person isn't addicted now...what's the point? ***Cigarette smoke has almost the same effect on me. If a venue has ***a "No Smoking" policy, then people should refrain from smoking *** *anything* while inside the venue. The operative word there was 'should'...it ain't gonna happen. You know it and I know it...someone is gonna smuggle in cigarettes or pot or whatever. If only we lived in a perfect world where everyone was healthy, sane, friendly, considerate...but we don't...and would we really want to? just something to ponder. Over. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:04:52 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: concert behavior...Meatloaf Doug wrote: >First, I'd believe you. But then again, I don't care whether a >candidate smoked some weed in the past as long as that person isn't >addicted now...what's the point? My point was simply to show that even though I've never smoked pot, like you, I don't care what others do, as long as it has no negative effect on me. >***Cigarette smoke has almost the same effect on me. If a venue has >***a "No Smoking" policy, then people should refrain from smoking >*** *anything* while inside the venue. > >The operative word there was 'should'...it ain't gonna happen. You >know it and I know it...someone is gonna smuggle in cigarettes or pot >or whatever. I agree with you, but that doesn't mean that we should just ignore wrongdoings because they're going to happen anyway. Gay bashing is a fact of life; it's going to happen. Does that mean we should simply turn our heads when we see it? Wrong is wrong, period. >If only we lived in a perfect world where everyone was >healthy, sane, friendly, considerate...but we don't...and would we >really want to? just something to ponder. "Would we really want to?" Speaking for myself, YES! I don't buy the argument that without some bad, we wouldn't appreciate the good. Instead of distinguishing between good and bad, wouldn't it be nice if our choices were good and better. Of course, I realize that that's just a fantasy. I guess my main point is that although I know that I can't change the world, I'm doing my best to improve my little corner of it. I encourage others to do the same. :) Michelle "But could you tell by the song I wanted to be the one Did you listen again when the damage was done" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 14:19:16 -0500 From: Mike Lieman Subject: Re: audience behavior At 07:58 AM 12/6/96 -0500, Tina Chambers wrote: >Yeah, maybe not *all* U.S. audiences are as "lame" as those that made it >to the list recently, but after actually experiencing ME in concert in >Europe, I have to admit it would be hard to duplicate that sort of >audience involvement over here (I still wish you good luck in your >efforts, though, Tim :-) ). And it's not because we Yanks are any less >dedicated, or love ME less, or are any less certifiably insane, nope, >it's for one simple reason: reserved seats. I do wonder what they would make of me. Standing the entire show, silent, staring straight at the stage in the front of the arena, *even* when MLE's on the back stage... >And, of course, venue size. This might sound slightly perverted, but I'd >much rather be in a crowd of 6,000 occupying a room designed for 5,000 >than for 15,000....but I'm one of those hoping that this will be the >last U.S. tour featuring 10,000+ venues :-) Yup, me too. Some people are critical of my suggesting that it's a good thing that she's peaked in terms of venue size, but I like the smaller rooms. peace Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:12:07 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: BEHAVIOUR I have to say something about this....I have been to 10 Melissa concerts over the past 7 years. The last one, at the new Corestates Center in Philly, I would have to say was the worst for audience behavior!! I had a woman DRIVE ME FREEKING NUTS asking me to dance with her all night! She sat behind me, spilled beer on me, threw up behind our seats...I was lucky I use to work for the company that manages the Spectrum & Corestates Center (before it was built)and I knew LOTS of the security people. I got her thrown out 3/4 the way through the concert. I did not have a great time and I sorta remember the show, after dropping $45 on the ticket! At least I hung with Melissa before the show backstage and she was very nice! That made up for the puking-dancing freek! I am sorry if I offended anyone by using the terms puke or throw up. Francie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:29:09 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: civility Thanks sooo much Marcy for posting this. How heart warming to hear this. How does that saying go... united we stand... I know that I myself often lose sight of our common bond(Melissa) so thanks for hepling to put me back on track. Hey Lori R. think it is time for another of your Ellen/Melissa stories to amuse all of us! On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Marcy Kunst wrote: > but...I come here to > celebrate Melissa. She's such a positive force in my life. The woman is > truly amazing. And I think most of us here have our love for her in > common with each other. Night all Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 20:39:35 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: MLE Featured Look out BAB, I can confirm that Patty is one hard headed woman. :] Sorry hun, couldn't resist that one! (Snicker, he he) Will this have any affect on my Christmas present this year? On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Patty Wilcox wrote: > The Lone Wrangler, who's getting her forehead ready for some holiday head > butts with the BAB's Hey John would a party monday evening Dec 23rd work for you and the rest of the BAB? I know that I, SueD and Patty will all be around on that evening. Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:02:22 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: A Holiday Hello... Hello everyone... =) I was just thinking today, as I was driving to do a little holiday shopping... I saw all the houses dressed up in lights and decorations... Little Santa's and reindeer... Even a Grinch on a roof... I got to thinking of how commercial the season is... I think giving gifts is wonderful. I myself love to lather my friends and loved ones with presents that make them smile... But I also feel thankful for the little things. Like the song of a bird or a bright winter day... The purr of my kitten and the warmth of the love from friends and family... I just wanted to say a "Thank You" to everyone for being there for everyone else... I am thankful for Meliis'a music for being my friend... And I thank God every day that I have the things I have and am able to do what I do... I'll stop my babbling for now... But be warned I may babble a little more later on... ;) Love and Peace, Kiva [email protected] ************************************************* "...go on and close your eyes..." m.e. ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:43:10 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: NEweather Hope all you New Englanders are doing ok with the adverse weather. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:44:11 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: Pink Caddy, Small Crowd Theory On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, Francie Trout wrote: > I saw Joan Osbourne last year - Joan Osborne > I am itching to see Sheryl Crowe!!! - Sheryl Crow > Tracy Bohomn - Tracy Bonham No biggie =). Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: [email protected] Bowling Green State Univ. [email protected] Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 8 Dec 1996 to 9 Dec 1996 - Special issue **************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Tue Dec 10 00:00:39 1996 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:00:02 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 9 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 21:23:50 -0600 From: John Taylor Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 8 Dec 1996 to 9 Dec 1996 - Special issue Hello, all. Look, I wasn't saying people shouldn't enjoy the concert as they like, just that interfering with someone else's ability to enjoy the show as THEY like is outta line. For me, it's the lyrics. Always has been.=20 And when I can't hear any of 'em because people are talking about anything BUT the show, etc., then they'd f*cked it up for me, and that's just plain wrong. =20 Why is it wrong? Because the LEAST common denominator in what one should get from attending a concert is to hear the artist. Anything else (laughing, partying, etc.) is a bonus, and you shouldn't get your bonus at the expense of others' not getting the LCD. If some of you can't understand that you don't have to right to keep other people from getting what they paid and came for - Melissa in this case, then I don't know how else to explain it to ya. Maybe a good long catchup talk w/ your folks about playing nicely with others is in order. Cause the only justifications I'm hearing from you who feel you have the right to dance, bump, grind, get beer, holler, etc., is that you want to. Pretty damned selfish and immature. NEXT TOPIC: That Chicago broadcast - no way I'll be able to pick it up down here outside of Tulsa. Can one of you tape it for me? Cassette or DAT, if you've got it? NEXT: Any of you on this list from the Tulsa area? Maybe we could get together at Village Inn or whatever some night. Thanks for having me! Keeping it precious, John --=20 "If God wanted man to fly, he'd have let him invent the airplane!" http://galstar.com/~falconer HOMEPAGE REVAMPED Sat.12/7/96 - Come check it out! mailto:[email protected] =A91996 John "Taylor" Yezeguielian - All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:31:20 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: melissa road trip? this message is really for BAB'ers, both active and lurkers. i just heard on KFOG that they will be sending someone on a "melissa road trip". that's all linda (the dj) said. details in the 9:00 pm hour... i'm guessing that means that they'll send you to the s.d. and the l.a. show? *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:08:22 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: MLE Hey... I just wanted to pass along that Melissa was here in Denver last weekend, and she was great. I hate to admit that I have not enjoyed her music as much as I used to. I saw her many years ago (1984) in a bar, and I became a pretty big fan... But her later music has not really seemed as good to me? Well, I admit a renewed respect! Just goes to show you how good she is in concert! melissa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:22:37 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Re: BEHAVIOUR Francie wrote: << at the new Corestates Center in Philly, I would have to say was the worst for audience behavior!! I had a woman DRIVE ME FREEKING NUTS asking me to dance with her all night! She sat behind me, spilled beer on me, threw up behind our seats.>>> But was she cute? LOL, poor Francie! That reminds me, one of my "mellow" friends was at a recent Melissa show and a very tough drunk woman sitting (uh, staggering) behind her "offered" (more like demanded) to thumb-wrestle my friend for her seat. My friend ended up moving and basically giving up the seat but she skipped the thumb-wrestling! Jill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:55:45 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: BEHAVIOUR In a message dated 12/9/96 11:23:35 PM, [email protected] (Jill Barry) wrote: <>> Jill...she was a bow wow! I wouldn't write home about her! Francie ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 9 Dec 1996 ********************************** From [email protected] Tue Dec 10 23:57:01 1996 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:47:43 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 9 Dec 1996 to 10 Dec 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:03:49 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: more of the same Tracey wrote: >> I don't dance, aside from occasional bouts of stationary >> macarena-ing, She really does this, folks. Some of us have witnessed this rare event. Dan wrote: >Some people can have a good time without dancing and jumping around. >> Now, here's where I really disagree with Elaine. | >> When the band started playing LTWID (one of my favorites!) I was on >> my feet, I moved up to the front, I was rockin'. I sang along Gee, Dan, sounds an awful lot like you're saying that one must dance to enjoy themselves at concerts. Funny, I've been going to concerts since before most people on this list were born (except John Miller, we all know he's *really* old ) and have had a good time whether or not I've danced...Why is it so hard to believe that dancing is not a requirement (or even fun activity) for some people? VERONICA wrote: >> i did not mean that *everyone* else had to dance. Then why did you write that everybody should dance and that the only way to have a good time at a concert was by dancing and jumping around? >> i meant that if people felt the need to dance (at a rock concert-- >> not a symphony, opera, rock opera, Ella Fitzgerald, Barbara >> Striesand) they should be able to do so without people getting >> upset at them. Even if they're blocking your view or hitting you? >> Second, re-read John Miller's entry. He hit the nail right on the >> head on what it was i was *trying* to say. What you said was in way similar to what he said. >> are trying to enjoy a show and some people are yelling about >> where they partied before the concert, Talking at a show disturbs some people, smoking disturbs some people, dancing disturbs some people. Why is one type of disturbance worse than another? KELLY wrote: >> I've been lurking for a few weeks now, Ooh, a few weeks, an expert on the personalities of everybody on the list. >> If one is on the list simply to knock down others and debate with >> those whom you disagree What is wrong with debate? >> sign off of the list And who are you to tell people to quit the list? Are you a moderator? List owner? >> you are ruining it for those of us that joined the list to share >> our admiration for ME. Who's "us"? Did "us" give you permission to speak for them? Just because one admires an artist doesn't mean one has to agree with everything the artist and/or the artist's fans say. If somebody's statement is unclear, somebody will ask that it be clarified. If the statement is illogical (eg, the ONLY way to have a good time at a concert is by dancing), people will react to it. If you don't like somebody's messages, don't read them. Or, I have a better idea - quit the list. Then you'll be absolutely sure you'll never read a negative message on it again...There, did you like being told you should quit because you don't like something here? Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 08:05:40 -0500 From: Julia Fain Subject: Ellen? what the heck is Ellen doing? post-coital chat? hhhmmm from USA Today...... Ellen DeGeneres guests on HBO's The Larry Sanders Show Wednesday night. TV host Sanders, played by comedian Garry Shandling, invites the actress for a personal prep session at his home. After what the show calls "an odd dance of flirtation," they end up in bed. The experience lends for some interesting post-coital chat on air the next day. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 15:58:05 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: KinkFM 'off air'? >>NO<< Hello everybody, It seems that KinkFM is going to win the battle against the big radio-stations. In Holland the public radio has several stations but the good music is broadcasted by the commercial station KinkFM. Public Radio would love to see KinkFM disappear because it's a first generation competitor. In the past week a lot happened. No money for KinkFM anymore, DJ's fired, lot of listeners angry and more. KinkFM has been sold to Veronica Radio and it will work I think. The DJ's are working for free to keep the channel in the air from 12-20 h.(the other time a non-stop tape is being broadcast). It's great to hear that radio is made with the heart of the DJ. And guess what? In the past week Mel had a lot of airplay! Some of you wrote here that in Holland she gets no airplay at all this year (or they meant the past months?). Well I heard: YLS, NTG, YIA and two other songs in three days!!! I just want to say: KINKFM: SUCCESS with your struggle against the mighty 3FM power! Keep on rocking and play the best music you've got! Keep this channel in the air, I LOVE IT! And all you out there in Holland: Listen to KinkFM!!! and give them support! Bye, Marcel. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:16:07 -0500 From: "Julie I. Lebaillif" Subject: Misc. Hello everyone, I seem to remember someone saying that the backup singer for Meatloaf on Anything for Love was Patti Smyth, but it sure doesn't look like her?? It's really bugging me, does anyone know?? As for that "Letter to Melissa", it was kind of scary. It made me think of Annie Wilkes in Misery saying to Paul, "I'm your #1 fan. Scary! That's all, Julie (& Olivier) "Friends", by John Michael Montgomery, Get it today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:38:20 -0500 From: CJ Subject: MEIN Membership Picks Okay, so I fell for the "sign up a friend and get a Melissa pick" routine from MEIN. The pick (which I got within 2 days) is rather cheesy, pink, the logo is printed on one side (crooked) with the ME sig on the other. It may just be that I was expecting too much, but I can't believe that a great player like Melissa would use this chincy pick. Any of you that have been lucky enough to have caught one at a concert... does this sound like anything that you have? P.S. The stadium jacket offered through MEIN is terrific! CJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 11:25:42 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: Misc. Hi all. Julie wrote: *** I seem to remember someone saying that the backup singer for Meatloaf ***on Anything for Love was Patti Smyth, but it sure doesn't look like her?? ***It's really bugging me, does anyone know?? I don't know whether or not Patti Smyth does the vocals (I still say it's Bonnie Tyler...who's with me on this???), but I know the lady in the video is a model lipsynching the song. and then Julie wrote: ***As for that "Letter to Melissa", it was kind of scary. It made ***me think ***of Annie Wilkes in Misery saying to Paul, "I'm your #1 fan. Scary! AMEN and pass the corn bread! Reading that letter made me want to run, get into my "cockadoody" car, go home, and hide under the covers. BTW...someone posted saying that "Mom (Melissa) is watching us" (or something like that)...well that is kinda scary too. People like that make me think of those stalkers you see on soap operas...you know the ones with secret rooms in their one bedroom apartment with an altar to the object of their desire. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:49:15 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: FW: Misc. A fine person named Ellie sent me the following: ***November\December 1995 *** ***Bonnie Tyler's latest LP Free Spirit has been released in Europe. ***Steinman's "Making Love Out of Nothing at All" is the LP's first ***single and video. The ***album also features Jim's production of a very ***different sounding "Two out of Three Ain't Bad". in addition, ***Bonnie has covered some numbers written ***and produced by Stu Emerson and previously *** performed by Lorraine Crosby (a.k.a. "Mrs. Loud" of Back Into ***Hell's "I'd Do Anything for Love... ''). ***One example of this is a song called "Sexual Device". Check it out! On Tuesday, December 10, 1996 10:16 *** Well, that clears up the Mrs. Loud issue! But brings up a new question for me...does this Lorraine Crosby have any albums out? I'd love to hear more from her. BTW...I have Bonnie Tyler's latest album and it is great...go out and buy it. Thanks Ellie! Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:01:47 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: " Tolerance" Hi Ya Gang! The topic for today is: "Tolerance". I think we all need to step back and take a deep breath now and then. I do this alot lately. Everyone is beating me at the shopping centers to get "Tickle Me Elmo!" The highways and by-ways are overcrowded and people are just being "Rude! Rude! Rude!" I sat down in a mall to eat have a small smackeral of a little something and saw a man going through the garbage looking for food to eat and as I watched the people around me watching him and with tears in my eyes I realized that people have become hard and uncaring for it did not stir any emotion in them. I have watched and listened as the buzzards fly around my dying aunt and seen them play with her mind and try to get all they can from her. All in all I have stood by tolerantly as people say hurtful things and then wonder why others are amazed at them. Empty pockets and hollow eyes tell the stories if you stop and take a look until you really see. For once the words fly out your mouth you can't take them back for there is no rewind button only tolerance. Practice this my friends and know this to be true, that every human being has a heart that hurts and you never know when the next hurt will be yours. Please make a difference. Much Warmth, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:13:29 -0800 From: beth stikkers Subject: melissa on mark and brian! Wow! Just got through listening to Melissa for an hour on the radio. She talked about everything from her and Julie's baby (she said that they are considering other names besides Austin now--because they got to the 7th month and said "well maybe that isn't the name"). She talked also about her music and her influences, and how it may change the next time she writes songs after the babe, etc... She also said that her last show is Dec. 22nd in LA (which I have tickets for ) and she said it will be at least 3 hrs if not more because it is the "last one for a while." Also she said that they probably will have to come get her off the stage at the end because she won't want to leave. I for one can't wait! Back to lurkdom.... beth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:32:04 -0800 From: edgy Subject: MLE on KSCA Melissa Etheridge: live in the music hall on KSCA 101.9 (Los Angeles) on Thursday, December 12th, 9:00 am. Allison [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 13:36:50 -0400 From: KELLY CONROY Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 9 Dec 1996 Hi All--- During my period of lurking, I picked up the IIWT single. I'm sure many of you already have it. If you don't- it's a must! There is a live version of LTWID (10 min, 12 sec!) There is no other ME song that gets my blood going like this one. I'll refrain from saying exactly where that blood goes ;-) Also--- That freaky letter to ME. It gave me chills. I never expected that kind of thing to show up on the list. Each of us have different beliefs and degrees to which a higher being (if at all) plays a role in our lives. How each of us feels about certain aspects of our lives (including sexual orientation) is a personal issue. First and most importantly, we need to be able to accept ourselves. Speaking solely for myself, I do not understand or even care about what some right-wing extremist thinks of me. I am not looking for them to tell me that God accepts me. I'm not so sure that this woman sincerely means it anyway. I am looking to have the same rights as everyone else and to be able to do that without risking my safety. Personally, I am tired of hearing about the moral aspect of homosexuality. I was taught that love sees no boundaries. If two people love one another and take care of each other- it's right, it's beautiful, and no one has the right to question it. "Mothers tell your children Be quick you must be strong Life is full of wonder Love is never wrong Remember how they taught you How much of it was fear Refuse to hand it down The legacy stops here" -ME There are my thoughts for the day- Kelly ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:11:22 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 8 Dec 1996 to 9 Dec 1996 - Special iss Me again! work is kinda slow today! I just found this and had to ask something... John wrote: ***For me, it's the lyrics. Always has been.=20 ***And when I can't hear any of 'em because people are talking about ***anything BUT the show, etc., then they'd f*cked it up for me, and that's ***just plain wrong I really have to wonder where this was at...I've never been to a concert where people talking kept me from hearing the music/lyrics. Was this a stadium? auditorium? bar? elevator? ***If some of you can't understand that you don't have to right to keep ***other people from getting what they paid and came for - Melissa in this ***case, then I don't know how else to explain it to ya. Maybe a good long ***catchup talk w/ your folks about playing nicely with others is in ***order. Cause the only justifications I'm hearing from you who feel you ***have the right to dance, bump, grind, get beer, holler, etc., is that ***you want to. Pretty damned selfish and immature. Almost as selfish as those people who think we shouldn't do those things because it interferes with them. Don't ya think? Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 14:27:22 EST From: DOUG Subject: NMEC...good vs. bad Hi again! I told you work is slow today! michelle wrote: ***I agree with you, but that doesn't mean that we should just ignore ***wrongdoings because they're going to happen anyway. Gay bashing is a ***fact of life; it's going to happen. Does that mean we should simply turn ***our heads when we see it? Wrong is wrong, period. YES! Wrong is wrong. I don't like the bad stuff anymore than you, But sometimes you have to look the other way or you might end up dead. People will and have killed over very little! Your attitude is great, I envy you for it...but I can't share it. We can live our lives right, and if we're lucky we can help someone else live better too...but the bad stuff will never go away, it's not in mankind to eradicate the bad, too many embrace it. ***"Would we really want to?" Speaking for myself, YES! I don't buy the ***argument that without some bad, we wouldn't appreciate the good. Instead ***of distinguishing between good and bad, wouldn't it be nice if our ***choices were good and better. Of course, I realize that that's just a ***fantasy. hmmmmmm.....good and better? Isn't the 'good' then bad since it isn't 'better'? There can be no good without bad...there can be no light without dark...it's part of life! Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 10:37:05 +0000 From: greg hawthorne Subject: Mark and Brian Hello everyone, I just got done listening to the Mark and Brian. Melissa played four songs, No Where To Go, Come To My Window, part of Merry X-mas War Is Over, and All The Way To Heaven. Of course they were all REALLY good. She talked about the baby her music and some other stuff. All in all I say it was worth waking up early for, IMO. The only thing that sucks is that my tape recorder is no fun. So it sounds different when I listen to it on my tape, but thats ok. It is still good. A little after the show was over they played all of Merry X-mas War Is Over from some Mark and Brian chirstmas show last year. Today was the first time I herd that song, and now I love it. It was just so amazing. One more thing. I liked that picture of ME, in Rollingstone. Happy holidays to all! Hope you all have a good time. Danielle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:08:00 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: annalisa and KFOG's "melissa road trip" "Sue Lambert (IEC)" <[email protected]> asked: >>btw, KFOG is giving away another pair next friday on "front row >>friday" sometime during annalisa's shift (11:00 am - 3:00 pm). >good >>luck! >> >>*rhondda* > >Is that the same annalisa from Boston, who used to be on WBCN? She >was cool and I'm just wondering if you ever heard her mentioned >that. it just so happens that i recently received my latest issue of "FogTracks", KFOG's quarterly newsletter for registered "FogHeads". anyway, there's a short interview with annalisa in this issue. she doesn't mention working at WBCN, but she does mention that she worked at many other boston area radio stations. WCAV - first real radio job at a country station outside boston WAAF - near boston; she hosted a public affairs show in addition to her daily rock show WZLX - hosted the morning show at this boston station and you're right, she is cool. :-) * * * * * "melissa road trip" - as i mentioned in my post last night, KFOG is doing yet another MLE contest. listen during the linda mcinnes evening shift (9:00 pm - 1:00 am) tonight through thursday. when she plays a MLE song, write it down, the approximate time and date that it played, and fax it along with your name, address, day and evening phone numbers to 1-800-FAX-KFOG (329-5364) by noon on this friday, 12/13. they will choose one winner from all correct entries. the winner will win tickets to the 12/17 SF and 12/18 sacramento shows, hotel accommodations at the courtyard marriott (i'm assuming just for the sacto show), a tour t-shirt, and a signed cd. i think you only have to send in the name of one song. IOW, you don't have to know all 4 songs that they played. FYI, last night's song was NTG, which was played at approximately 11:35 pm. good luck! :-) *rhondda* <--- counting the hours until my vacation starts! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:12:51 -0600 From: Janis Delmonte Subject: Re: Artist of the year The VH1 program schedule also shows a two hour block of Melissa: 7:00 pm VH1 To One 7:30 pm Duets 8:30 pm Artist of the Year All Eastern Time. Set your VCRs! -Janis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:16:34 -0500 From: Donk Subject: tom + rosie Was it not worth the wait?!?! (This is how I would react to Melissa!!) (ok, and tommy, too!!) All smiles, Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 19:28:32 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: NMEC...good vs. bad Doug wrote: >YES! Wrong is wrong. I don't like the bad stuff anymore than you, >But sometimes you have to look the other way or you might end up dead. >People will and have killed over very little! I'm not advocating that we all become vigilantes, but there are proper channels we can go through (spoken like a true law student.) ;) For instance, if someone is being rowdy at a concert, simply get the attention of security personnel. You don't get hurt and the problem is taken care of. Sometimes doing the right thing takes very little effort. >Your attitude is great, I envy you for it...but I can't share it. We can live our >lives right, and if we're lucky we can help someone else live better too...but the >bad stuff will never go away, it's not in mankind to eradicate the bad, too many >embrace it. I agree. I never said that all bad can be eradicated. However, I won't turn my head and accept the bad if I have the ability to do something about it. >hmmmmmm.....good and better? Isn't the 'good' then bad since it isn't >'better'? There can be no good without bad...there can be no light >without dark...it's part of life! As I said earlier, I don't buy that argument. Here's an example: coffee is good, but coffee with Kahlua is better. The only bad thing about that choice right now is that I have too much studying to do to add the Kahlua tonight. Michelle "Secrets of your life I never wanted for myself But you guarded them like a lie Placed up on the highest shelf" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 20:16:12 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: tassel & spew Colleen Lanthrip wrote: >Secondly....Beth.....I'm really upset that I missed tassel night, I hope to > Goddess that someone took pics. ugh sorry... no pics of the tassels (that I know of), but all the other photos came out great. >And I do hope that you enjoy your Birthday on Thursday (same as mine, btw). Sagg - that's right ! Have a good one !! ----------------------------- Francie Trout wrote: >She sat behind me, spilled beer on me, threw up behind our seats... >At least I hung with Melissa before the show backstage and she was very nice! >That made up for the puking-dancing freek! at least she waited until after you met Melissa before she decided to *spew* ... ah yeah, I can see it now - there'd be just nothing like meeting ME covered in someone else's... Yuck - you get the picture *lol* Beth (going home to pull the covers up over my head cause it's been a wretched two days at work/school) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 20:32:58 -0500 From: Hayley Coristine Subject: VH1 to One and Duets on again FYI, both the MLE VH1 to one and Duets are going to be on again on Thursday. The VH1 to one interview will be on at 7:30pm EST, and Duets right after that until 8:30 pm. I noticed Joan Osborne was "Playing Favorites" today, I wonder if MLE will do that sometime soon? If someone has already posted this sorry for wasting your time.... Hayley ************************************************************************* Through this world I've stumbled * so many times betrayed * trying to find an honest word to find * the truth enslaved -Sarah McLachlan ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 21:35:41 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: SueD road trip report This is Shirl checking in for SueD who has just started the first leg of her whirl wind west coast tour. She phoned me from the concert to gloat over the fact that she had 4th row center stage seats and would be obsessing in the audience with her bud Janelle. I told her to be careful not to do to much dancing, talking, laughing, smoking grass or showing her breasts this evening will attending the concert. Knowing Sue I doubt she will listen to me. For those of you who will be meeting SueD for the first time during her West Coast adventure be assured you are in for a treat. She is a great woman with an even greater heart and bigger sense of humor. I promised to keep the list posted for her as to her where abouts while she is on the road. I feel like one of those VH-1 road correspondants or something. :] Good night all, Shirl http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 15:19:12 -0500 From: Deb Subject: this horse is *not* dead! [email protected] wrote: >i can understand if people get upset when others around them are >talking too loudly or throwing beer around or having sex in the >aisles (!), but i guess i don't get why people get mad because some >people are too mellow for their tastes. Isn't it weird? Kinda like a hold-over from high school where if you weren't hanging with the rowdy crowd, you weren't cool. =-=-=<>=-=-= Tracey Thacker wrote: >it seems that oftimes, some folks forget that >they aren't sitting in their dens, and when they get up and go for their 5th >beer, passing in front of every soul in their row, don't realize how >annoying that is. Sometimes they apologize each time through. Usually if I'm wearing a microphone. :) =-=-=<>=-=-= VERONICA FRESCAS wrote: > I guess the word i was looking for was "appropriate" behaviour. When >one is at a rock concert, one should be dancing, jumping around That may or may not be appropriate, depending on the venue. If you are on a dance floor, go for it. If you're in an arena and there's not enough room to dance, it's inappropriate (and selfish) to intrude on the space of others and ruin *their* chance of having a good time. >--in short having a good time. How nice to hear that we all have the same definition of a good time. >Not sitting down and getting upset at others who spent >just as much, if not more money, than they did for dancing. And they spent as much money as you did, and they should be able to enjoy it without you standing on the chair in front of them, or dancing into them when they have no place else to go. I'm sure you don't think the guy who came to get drunk and hit on babes has a right to puke on you and feel you up because he paid his money. Your perception of "a good time" shouldn't impact another's concert experience. >If you want >to sit down sit in your den in front of your television set and watch VH1 >or MTV for your concerts, that way people won't be in your way. Whether one is sitting or standing, watching MLE taped on VH-1 is not the same as watching her live, and you know it. =-=-=<>=-=-= Jen Smith wrote: >I've >been known, however, to sit through a concert if the mood did not strike me >to get up and dance. A lot of it might depend upon the performers >themselves. I've said it before, and I'll probably say it again, but I can't >help but think that a lot of recently reported MIssyLouConcertBlahs >(hmm...ok, TM) can most likely be attributed to the YLS material. Exactly. I've stood through MLE shows and I've sat through MLE shows. The material, the venue, and the repetitiveness of the show itself had everything to do with my participation level. But I still enjoyed it enough (or in the case of the YLS tour, anticipated enjoying it enough) to go to the show. Don't think I'll go to the next tour if John is still in the band, but that's a long way off, so who knows. Maybe I'll adore the post-Austin CD! >I, for one, would be *more* than >willing to shell out $50/$60 per ticket and maybe even join MEIN in hopes of >getting terrific seating if I knew she was going to play a decent venue. Me too, definitely, even if John is still in the band. :) =-=-=<>=-=-= DOUG wrote: >If you want good audience behavior - go to a country concert. And if you want gay marriage, move to the Netherlands. Come on! >I've never been to a >concert where people talking kept me from hearing the music/lyrics. >Was this a stadium? auditorium? bar? elevator? I've been to many venues, large and small, where audience was loud enough to distract from the show (which is different from drowning it out). I could hear a small group of 5 people on the floor of the 9:30 club last night during one of Sarah McLachlan's slow songs, and it was *quite* distracting. I'm sure that if they were distracting me *in the balcony*, they could have been a little quieter and still heard one another -- if they gave a damn. >***Cause the only justifications I'm hearing from you who feel you >***have the right to dance, bump, grind, get beer, holler, etc., is that >***you want to. Pretty damned selfish and immature. > >Almost as selfish as those people who think we shouldn't do those >things because it interferes with them. Don't ya think? Not at all. A traditional expression of rights is that "your right to swing your fist ends at my face.' Similarly, your right to party at a concert ends at my space. -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 11-23 15:19 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: September 67, LUCKY SHOE Listen to it at http://cdnow.com ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 9 Dec 1996 to 10 Dec 1996 - Special issue ***************************************************************** From [email protected] Wed Dec 11 00:45:25 1996 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:00:04 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 10 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 15:19:12 -0500 From: Deb Subject: other stuff Francie Trout wrote: >I saw a great show here in philly for anyone into Modern Rock. WDRE put on >its Christmas Show Thursday night and there were some great bands!! Two >female artists...Fiona Apple was super and Tracy Bohomn just rock the 4,000 >people who gathered for the electric event!! I prefer WHFS's christmas show line-up: Fiona Apple, Barenaked Ladies, and Sarah McLachlan! Outstanding show! =-=-=<>=-=-= Michelle Reeves wrote: >Hey everyone. Got this today from one of my interns. Thought it would >be good to make everyone aware. It would be good if you check it out before spreading misinformation and alarm. >Arrow down until you see the warning. >Thanks. Oh, and pass it on to anyone you know who's online.... Please don't, unless you have confirmation from a reasonable source. Look for info from CERT, CIAC, Ziff-Davis publications, CMP Publications... search the Web for "virus," go to AOL's virus info... 99.9% of the time it's a hoax, and if it's not, those sources will tell you so. And if you must pass crap like this on, at least remove all the quoting and headers except for the original message. >This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are >interestedin a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is too >late. The "trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot >sector of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a >self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will >AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is present >in YOUR mailbox! LOL! Whoever wrote that deserves an award, that one should be circulating the 'Net for years! =-=-=<>=-=-= Julie Strietelmeier wrote: >I've got all ME's american released CDs but I hear there are >imports... where can I buy them? There are tips at: http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/me_boots.html And there are new bootleg updates in my current draft: http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/me_boots.htm =-=-=<>=-=-= Tami Cowart wrote about the Christian letter: >Reading things like this on this list make me cringe. Why? It was pretty bizare, but as far as I know Christians are welcome here, and it *was* MEC (sorta...). It kept my attention for more than ten lines, which is more than many posts on this list do. :) Except for the Christian twist, it wasn't that much different from the many posts I've seen here in which people pledged their undying devotion and their love for MLE, whom they don't even know. =-=-=<>=-=-= Colleen Lanthrip wrote: >Now, the real story, no never mind I find Gwen's version more amusing, >however, I'm not sure Linda will. Hey, Gwen, what did you do, appropriate my *true* story of how I broke my ankle?! Actually, both times were pretty amusing, but y'all will have to meet us at the next DC gathering for the telling. :) =-=-=<>=-=-= Donk wrote about Tom Cruis on The Rosie O'Donnell Show: >Was it not worth the wait?!?! I've just been waiting for it to be over, I'm sick of hearing Rosie talk about him. (He's a doll for humoring her, he's so down to earth and she's put him on such a pedestal.) =-=-=<>=-=-= John Miller wrote: >And is that Deb I hear laughing about the nickname she gave me? :) Loudly, and often. :) -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 11-23 15:19 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: September 67, LUCKY SHOE Listen to it at http://cdnow.com ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 10 Dec 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Wed Dec 11 18:23:47 1996 Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 18:23:07 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 10 Dec 1996 to 11 Dec 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:18:16 EST From: Space Invaders Subject: KTS, anyone? Hi, I was wandering around in Netscape and I came across this web page called KTS, Kiss the Stone Interactive Catalogue (http://www.kts.it/index.html). They had some Melissa boots, one in particular that I want very much and haven't been able to find anywhere, the Ten Years of Covers cd. I'm very tempted to order it through them but before I did that I wanted to find out if anyone else had ordered anything from them, had any good/bad/indifferent things to say, anything like that. Thanks everyone... Donna Rutgers University New Brunswick, NJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:26:10 -0500 From: Ruben Boiardi Subject: Concertiquette ..or.. way too much time on your hands Hi All, I'm de-lurking momentarily to contribute to the concertiquette discussion. I know I speak for the entire universe and all life forms discovered and as yet undiscovered, as well as for all of humanity, past and future when I say the following: "Lighten up - We're talking concerts, not Armageddon (sp?)" Thank You and Happy Holidays. ruben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:35:51 -0700 From: Joyce Stoliar Subject: Thanks Joyce & Melissa Pick Hey Original Joyce (Luck), Thanks for the info on the R.S. stuff, anybody know where I can get a copy of the RS with the review and so called dorky picture? >From: CJ >Subject: MEIN Membership Picks > >Okay, so I fell for the "sign up a friend and get a Melissa pick" >routine from MEIN. The pick (which I got within 2 days) is rather >cheesy, pink, the logo is printed on one side (crooked) with the ME sig >on the other. It may just be that I was expecting too much, but I can't >believe that a great player like Melissa would use this chincy pick. > >Any of you that have been lucky enough to have caught one at a >concert... does this sound like anything that you have? > >P.S. The stadium jacket offered through MEIN is terrific! > >CJ CJ, I did get a Melissa pick from Melissa back in March, it was black not pink and has Your Little Secret on one side and a Melissa autograph thing on the other, its a fairly heavy guage pick, but I am sure that the same typesetting can be found on yours, but it is not likely a concert pick but a run of picks made just for the promotion. Thats my guess anyway. Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:25:07 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: definitely not a dead horse NMEC - for you Xena fans, she and Hercules are the cover story on this week's Canadian TV Guide. Jen Smith wrote: >> I don't care if you don't believe in Santa...he exists I think you've been sipping too much eggnog already...As you're the expert, should one wear clothes or not while drinking eggnog? >> and I'm by-golly not gonna get passed over for my fair share of his >> loot! I'm sure Santa has a special place in his sleigh for people who return from the dead. DOUG wrote: >> ***Bonnie Tyler's latest LP Free Spirit has been released in >> Europe. >> ***Steinman's "Making Love Out of Nothing at All" is the LP's first Didn't she record that several years ago? Or did Meatloaf or another of Steinman's buddies record it? Title sounds awfully familiar. >> HAHAHAHAHAHA....(with an evil grin and glint in my eye)....silly >> boy! >> Don't you know you can never get of the list. You're one of us >> now! >> There's no need to fight it. Give into the power, fulfill your >> destiny, and take your father's place at my....whoa, sorry, that >> was part of a message to another person on another list of mine... >> yeah, that's it...another person, another list...I'm fine...truly! So, who do you have a shrine to in your one bedroom apartment? KELLY wrote: >> That freaky letter to ME. It gave me chills. So much for everybody being on the list for the same reasons. Doug wrote: >> I really have to wonder where this was at...I've never been to a >> concert where people talking kept me from hearing the music/lyrics. >> Was this a stadium? auditorium? bar? elevator? Most recent example for me was at the Celine Dion concert at Wolf Trap in August. We were on the lawn, people behind us were chatting about something, and we couldn't hear the lyrics. Deb wrote: >beer, passing in front of every soul in their row, don't realize how >annoying that is. >> Sometimes they apologize each time through. Usually if I'm wearing >> a microphone. :) Just making sure you catch the moment for posterity. :-) > I guess the word i was looking for was "appropriate" behaviour. When >one is at a rock concert, one should be dancing, jumping around >> That may or may not be appropriate, depending on the venue. And depending on how you define "rock". If we use any artist that is usually found in the rock section at the record store it would certainly be inappropriate to dance and jump around at - Tori Amos, Tracy Chapman, Shawn Phillips, most if not all "progressive rock" artists, the latest Springsteen tour (where before the shows he asks people to keep quiet), etc. etc. >> If you're in an arena and there's not enough room to dance, There usually is in the back but people won't move. Since they're not watching the stage anyways when they dance, I don't know why they don't want to move out of the way. Probably because they paid for that seat (I figure seat implies sitting, not standing on or in front of it. If we didn't pay for a seat why is there a seat number on the ticket?) >--in short having a good time. >> How nice to hear that we all have the same definition of a good >> time. We must. We're all on the list for the same reasons. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 22:31:32 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: "time is fleeting / madness takes its toll" before i split this popsicle stand for my vacation in the great NW, i'd thought that i'd take the time to post a brief reminder. the DUETS tape tree is still rolling, but many branches haven't received very many requests. so, if you are interested in receiving the DUETS tape, please sign up with the appropriate branch. please see my 11/22 post in the archive on the list web site (http://www.ecw.ca/mle, click on "archives") for the tree structure. i will be on vacation until january 2nd, so i might not get much of a chance to check my email until then. if you don't know what the hell i'm talking about, please contact john miller in my absence (thanks, sweetie!). of course, if you can wait 3 weeks for me to answer your mail, feel free to mail me your questions, too. spokane, here i come! woo wee! *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 01:46:30 -0500 From: Melanie Carino Subject: Looking for Sacramento Ticket Anyone have an extra ticket for the Sacramento show? Plans got tweaked and I'm looking for a ticket now. Email me privately. Melanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:00:27 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: Re: Other Stuff Deb wrote: >I prefer WHFS's christmas show line-up: Fiona Apple, Barenaked Ladies, and >Sarah McLachlan! Outstanding show! Sarah M. also played the WHTZ Christmas show in New York. They're now playing "Possession" from that show on the air. It sounds amazing. Oh - speaking of concerts in NYC, anyone going to the Tori Amos RAINN benefit in January? -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) [email protected] http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:48:49 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: She's teasin' me After hiding in my cave for several weeks, I crawled out for just a moment and Elaine jumped at the chance to tease me ... she wrote: >John Miller wrote: > >>When one is at a rock concert, one should be dancing, >>jumping around--in short having a good time. >>> Aw shucks... wish I'd been told this rule 37 years ago when I saw >>> my first major live concert (Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong) > >That wasn't a rock concert, John, That's true, Elaine, my first major concert was NOT a rock concert, but most of the music played at this jazz concert was very danceable... not too surprising, since jazz is based on dance rhythms. Jazz (often defined as "musical deconstruction and reconstruction, with rhythmic and melodic displacement") has the backbeat as its fundamental essence, emphasizing (in 4/4 time) the 2 and 4, instead of the 1 and 3. Early jazz was usually enjoyed live in dance clubs, and most of the music of Louis Armstrong and Ella Fitzgerald was from the 'swing' era, a very dance-friendly jazz style... and one of *your* favorite jazz musicians (Dizzy Gillespie) used Afro-Cuban dance rhythms in his music. Rock, R & B, and even some Country music all get their danceable rhythms from the backbeat, inherited from jazz. Of course, you already knew this, so I assume you were just teasing me. Does that mean you missed me? Or do you just think I'm easy... (err... easy to tease, of course ). Elaine continued: >and according to some people, we should engage in sexual activity to >stay awake at jazz concerts. LOL! If it's Kenny G's elevator-jazz (snore) I'd need *something* to wake me from his soporific twaddle! But I don't remember any on-list discussion of sexual activity and jazz... my only memory of a related discussion was someone's description of a 'coupled' couple at a Stevie Nicks concert... perhaps it's just my aging memory . Speaking of age, Elaine wrote: >I've been going to concerts since before most people on this list were >born (except John Miller, we all know he's *really* old ) ROTFL! A pretty good record for someone like you who's still 29 . Yes, this "gramps of the list" started his serious music-listening habit at a very early age (four)... my favorites were Bach, Mozart, Art Tatum, Erroll Garner, Billie Holiday, and almost anything in the bluegrass genre (what a mix!)... of course, my radio had *tubes*, and I listened to 78's. Going back to my cave for awhile... John Miller - looking forward to Melissa in San Francisco next week! San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:07:38 -0500 From: "Deborah D. Jones" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 10 Dec 1996 Vote for VH-1 Artist of the year. Toll-free 888-444-3624 as often as you like! I know who I'm voting for! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 08:09:06 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: VH-1, Dec 12/Melissa Duets/VH1 to One/Artist of the year... This is the programing schedule for VH1 on Dec 12, there are several times Melissa is going to appear...Set your VCRS... Thursday, December 12, 1996 (ET) 11: 30 - 12 NoonArtist of the Year Nominee:Melissa Etheridge 3: 30 - 4 PM Artist of the Year Nominee: Melissa Etheridge 7 - 7: 30 PM VH1 To One Interview: Melissa Etheridge 7: 30 - 8: 30 PM Duets: Melissa Etheridge 8: 30 - 9 PM Artist of the Year Nominee: Melissa Etheridge Thanks, Sonya [email protected] Enjoy Life, because it's too short to be unhappy... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:41:10 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: She's teasin' me John Miller wrote: >LOL! If it's Kenny G's elevator-jazz (snore) I'd need *something* to >wake me from his soporific twaddle! But I don't remember any on-list >discussion of sexual activity and jazz... my only memory of a related >discussion was someone's description of a 'coupled' couple at a Stevie >Nicks concert... perhaps it's just my aging memory . I believe Elaine was referring to a joke I made several weeks ago - and it was only a JOKE - although I do agree with your assessment of Kenny G. :) Michelle "Her eyes and arms and skin won't make it go away You'll wake up tomorrow and wrestle the sorrow That holds you down today" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:16:03 -0800 From: Mike Bulger Subject: MLE is Ghandi! >Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 07:15:31 -0500 >From: "Deborah D. Jones" >Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 9 Dec 1996 > >Children. Children. > >Mom (Melissa) is watching us! What's all this bickering? By her example and >through her music she teaches us Understanding. Tolerance. and Compassion. >We need to practice some of these find qualities on each other. >The Legacy STARTS here! Actually, I always thought more of her music was about loneliness, loss, remorse, obsession, sexual longing, romantic games, and emotional outbursts. I don't think anyone needs to be taught these things, either. So, if anything, the "bickering" that's going on is only a reflection of the music that inspires it. "The Legacy" has already started. :p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:24:56 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: Borrowing and belching Our current brave (and crazy) list moderator, Jen Smith , wrote while in a seemingly quiet mood (g): >What The Hell!!! >:-\ An oberservation Jen made while she was: "" I say, YOU GO JEN!!! Well, er, that is as long you not also planning on borrowing Deb's wife. Eh, Deb? +++++++++++ Deb described a situation with some fellow audiennce members at the Sarah McLachlan concert the other evening: >I >could hear a small group of 5 people on the floor of the 9:30 club last >night during one of Sarah McLachlan's slow songs, and it was *quite* >distracting. I'm sure that if they were distracting me *in the balcony*, >they could have been a little quieter and still heard one another -- if >they gave a damn. Yeah they were very distracting and annoying, but what about that guy a few people down from us who, during some of Sarah's quiet songs, shouted out in between belches, wonderful comments such as, "HEY SARAH... NICE *SS!!" or "SARAH, I WANT YOU!!" (glare) I'm all for having a great time at a concert, even dancing and sipping a few brews BUT only as long as my actions don't spoil another person's enjoyment; that to me isn't very nice. Gwen (who was just turned onto barenaked ladies) Opps, silly me! I meant to use a capital 'B' and 'L'..... (snicker) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:09:48 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: Best wishes HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!! Best wishes to Beth Durff and Colleen Lanthrip, two of our D.C. Metro Macarena Listers. Carpe Diem girls! Gwen and Jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:19:52 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: Misc. I just had to reply to the whole analogy thing of that post to "Misery". It gave me a good laugh for the day (you guys couldn't have hit the nail on the head any better). Kathy (still on the floor laughing over "cockadoody" car) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:23:30 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: Yes Virginia, There Is A Santa Claus. Friends, I think all of us need to read this..... Dear Editor: I am 8 years old. Some of my little friends say there is no Santa Claus. Papa says "If you see it in The Sun, it's so." Please tell me the truth, is there a Santa Claus? Virginia O'Hanlon Is There a Santa Claus? Virginia, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except what they see. They think that nothing can be which is not comprehensible by their little minds. All minds, Virginia, whether they be men's or children's, are little. In this great universe of ours man is a mere insect, an ant, in his intellect, as compared with the boundless world bout him, as measured by the intelligence capable of grasping the whole of truth and knowledge. Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus! It would be as dreary as if there were no Virginias. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense an sight. The eternal light with which childhood fills the would would be extinguished. Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies! You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chinmeys on Christmas Eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if they did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither children nor men can see. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn? Of course not, but that's no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world. You tear apart the baby's rattle and see what makes the noise inside, but there is a veil covering the unseen world which not the strongest man, nor even the united strength of all the strongest men that ever lived, could tear apart. Only faith, fancy, poetry, love, romance, can push aside that curtain and view and picture the supernal beauty and glory beyond. Is it all real? Ah, Virginia, in all this world there is nothing else real and abiding. No Santa Claus! Thank God he lives, and he lives forever. A thousand years from now, Virginia, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood. The New York Sun, September 21, 1897. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:30:07 -0500 From: kelly keller097027 Subject: intro Hello, I'm not sure how this works, so I hope I'm doing the right things. My name is Kelly Keller, yes, Kelly Keller (my parents thought it would be funny..ha, ha.). Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that reading all of your e-mails has been fascinating. I am of course an adoring admirer of Melissa and I think she is a truly unique, amazing woman. Her songs and her style has allowed me to understand so many things and let me be myself. She has inspired me in ways that have been absolutely wonderful. My first concert was her in Philadelphia....and wow, what a concert. She is so powerful. There are so many things that I feel I can relate to with her. I think she would be a great person to know and just hang out with. That's all I really wanted to comment on for now. Take care everyone. KAK -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sent via ExpressNet/SMTP(tm), Internet Gateway of the Gods! ExpressNet/SMTP (c)1994-95 Delphic Software, Inc. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:42:54 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Pop Up Video Delurking to tell everyone that the POP UP VIDEO of CTMW was on VH-1 today. I actually learned something new....... did you know that Melissa was at one time a security guard in a boston hospital? I didn't know that......Anyway some of the pop up's were silly but some were informative. Worth having for the collection....... Imagine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:27:10 -0500 From: Lisa M Mahoski Subject: Re: concert behavior on the subject of concert behavior I have a few comments. I've been to two ME concerts the first in philly the second in NY. In NY Broom county arena my girlfriend and I had front row seats on the first riser level, with the stage. Needless to say these were great seats. Anyway I myself love to go to concerts and dance and get all crazy but my other half is very quiet, shy, and laid back she could never get up and dance. So through the whole three hour concert we sat like good little girls held hand sang like fools but never got out of our seats. I heard a comment made that if you just want to sit around stay home and watch tv. I found this unfair because, just because we were not up dancing around didn't mean we weren't enjoying ourselves and we weren't stopping anyone else from enjoying themselves either. We paid our money to see the same concert everyone else did and we deseve to enjoy it, in which ver way we prefer... as well as anyone else does. I hope this didn't soound snotty because that is not how it was intended it was just to let you all know that just because somepeople are not up dancing around and getting crazy doesn't mean they are not HUGE FANS, and they are not enjoying themselves. Some people just don't have the nerve..... I feel better now... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:50:28 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: Pop Up Video Imagine informed us that the pop-up video finally aired. I was *wondering* when silly VH-1 was gonna get around to showing that pop-up video. They've only been promising it for two weeks now. And then Imagine remarked: >> did you know that Melissa was at one time a security guard in a boston hospital?<< Yeah, she worked part time for awhile at the Deaconess Hospital in Boston. Speaking of dorky, she supposedly looked pretty dorky in the uniform. ;-) Then again, aren't *all* security guard uniforms kinda dorky--?? Well, later, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:15:02 -0500 From: Lori Levy Subject: Need to get rid of SF tix (12/17) Hi folks, I just signed on to the list but will need to sign off again ASAP, so please respond to this post by e-mail rather than through the list (thanks!). I have 2 tickets for the San Francisco Caw Palace show on December 17 that I would like to sell at my cost, which is face value ($42.50) + the BASS service charge ($5.35 ea.) so the total for the 2 would be $96.70. Seats are Section 13, Row L, seats #1 & 2. Please e-mail me at [email protected] (and btw, that's a zero-three, not a capital O) if you are interested or know someone else who is! Thank you! Lori [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:20:56 -0500 From: Lisa M Mahoski Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 9 Dec 1996 to 10 Dec 1996 - Special issue hi I've been on the list for a little over a month now i don't write in much 'cause i don't have time. but there are a few things that confuse me. Most of it is all the intials. I can pretty much figure most of them out. I LOVE ME, I have all of her CD's and all but some of these things really confuse me... ya i probably sound really cheezy but i can't help it!!! I hope no one was offended by my last post about audience behavior it wasn't meant to cut anyone down it was just my opinion. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 16:56:19 EST From: Beezus Quimby Subject: KTS answer Hi, it's me, the girl with the question about KTS from yesterday. Some people have written me and asked what kind of responses I've gotten regarding the company so I decided to post what I've learned to the list. People from both this list and the Indigo Girls list have written to me saying that yes, KTS is indeed a legit company and that any cd's they've gotten so far from them have been very high quality. So thanks, everyone that wrote to me! I placed my order already. :) Donna College of Engineering Rutgers University New Brunswick, NJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:05:00 PST From: Jennifer Smith Subject: TICKET I have an extra ticket for the M.E. concert in S.F. next tuesday. Time is ticking away and I hope my ticket will have an owner soon. I'm looking for a big M.E. fan who wants to go to the concert. I'm new to her music and can't seem to get enough. I've been to concerts before but going with someone makes an event much more memorable. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:54:57 -0000 From: Suzanne Shmagin Subject: More behavior (sorry) I want to first start off by saying hello to all. I'm very new to the list, and have received floods of great emails. One of the first ones I read involved the behavior issue. Now I have only been to one of her concerts (because my parents wouldn't let me go to one until I turned 15) but I know enough to tell you that this is somewhat foolish talk. I don't mean to offend anyone, but this is nonsese! You encounter every type of person at a concert--just because they like Melissa's music doesn't mean their well behaved and classy. At this one concert there were many abnoxious, rude, and disgusting people. They were smoking cigarettes and marijuana, drinking beer, and yelling profanities into mid-air. But there were also some very nice people who offered to give me their binoculars so that I could see better. All of the people around me (noticing that I'm only 5 ft. 2 in.) either offered to give up their seats, or suggested I stand on my chair. There are all types of people in this world, and just about each type can be represented at an ME concert. It's your decision whether or not you let the obnoxious people get on your nerves. Please take this into consideration. I apologize if I offended anyone Sincerely, Suzanne ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 10 Dec 1996 to 11 Dec 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Thu Dec 12 00:00:43 1996 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:00:06 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 11 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 19:09:26 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Re: KTS, anyone? Hi all, Donna ([email protected]) wrote: << I came across this web page called KTS, Kiss the Stone Interactive Catalogue (http://www.kts.it/index.html). They had some Melissa boots, I'm very tempted to order it through them but before I did that I wanted to find out if anyone else had ordered anything from them, had any good/bad/indifferent things to say, anything like that. Thanks everyone...>> I'm not sure if it's the same thing, but KTS is a pretty reputable (as far as, ahem, "imports" go) "label". If it's the same thing, I have lots of their Rolling Stones product and it's quite good. Hope it helps! Jill ******"If you can't rock me, somebody will"****** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:30:36 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Sue D update! Have Sue D on the phone & guess what folks!? She won an autographed Melissa Etheridge guitar in Stateline Nevada last night! It was a thrilling night for Sue at Buffalo Bill's Star of the Desert Arena. (she just gets a kick out of that name) So tomorrow when I pick her up at Seatac Airport she might have to be careful. She's already warned me though that a lot of people on the list know where she is & where she's going, so if she were to disappear in my area, Shirl would probably come hunt me down! Way to go Sue!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:46:47 -0500 From: Dina Helen Goldstein Subject: MTV Hi all, thought I delurk for a bit... First off, for those people celebrating hannuka...HAPPY HANNUKA!! I wanted to say hey to everyone who I was so lucky to hang out with on Saturday in d.c. :-) onto MLE... I'm not sure if this as been posted yet, but, I just came from watching MTV. There was a special (not sure of the title) all about MTV Unplugged, behind the scenes. About halfway through there was a bit of Melissa talking about playing with Bruce, and about Nirvana on Unplugged..how it was good to see Kurt Cobain on Unplugged..something like that. Just for those who might be interested. Till next time, Dina ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 21:42:28 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: such a tease Ruben Boiardi wrote: >> I know I speak for the entire universe and all life forms >> discovered and as yet undiscovered, as well as for all of >> humanity, past and future when I say the following: And Ruben's Canadian so he must be right. Redsocks asked: >> speaking of concerts in NYC, anyone going to the Tori Amos RAINN >> benefit in January? I read today that it's going to be broadcast on Lifetime on Jan. 24 (at least I think that's the date). Yvonne wrote: >> Telling somebody to act a certain way during a concert.. Not at all. >> But then you go of the deep end because you than say that people >> who do wanna dance should go to the back of the hall to dance so >> that they don't block YOUR view.. It was just a suggestion. If they're not watching the stage, what does it matter if they're 5 feet from it or 50? >> Just let anybody enjoy the concert as they see fit. And how are people whose view is being blocked supposed to be able to enjoy it? If somebody's enjoyment affects other people's enjoyment, then it's wrong. John Miller wrote: >> moment and Elaine jumped at the chance to tease me Would I do that?...Oh yeah, I would. >> most of the music played at this jazz concert was very danceable... >> not too surprising, since jazz is based on dance rhythms. In the olden days, when you were young , jazz was dance music and the popular music. >> and one of *your* favorite jazz musicians (Dizzy Gillespie) used >> Afro-Cuban dance rhythms in his music. And he danced too. >> Does that mean you missed me? Terribly. >> Or do you just think I'm easy... (err... easy to tease, of course >> ). That too. ;-) >I've been going to concerts since before most people on this list >were born (except John Miller, we all know he's *really* old ) >> ROTFL! A pretty good record for someone like you who's still 29 >> . I even saw The Beatles on Ed Sullivan 3 years before I was born. >> Going back to my cave for awhile... I hope there's somebody there to hibernate with. Suzanne Shmagin wrote: >> You encounter every type of person at a concert--just because they >> like Melissa's music doesn't mean their well behaved and classy. >> At this one concert there were many abnoxious, rude, and disgusting >> people. They were smoking cigarettes and marijuana, drinking beer, >> and yelling profanities into mid-air. But there were also some >> very nice people who offered to give me their binoculars so that I When you start going to more concerts you'll realize that there is this mix at most concerts. Unless it's a no-smoking venue, there will be cigarettes and marijuana. If it's a club, arena or stadium, there will be alcohol drunk during the performance...Hell, I saw a fist fight in the middle of a Bob Dylan concert that was in a nice theatre. >> of the people around me (noticing that I'm only 5 ft. 2 in.) >> either offered to give up their seats, That's something I've never seen. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 22:01:53 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: Sue D update! [email protected] wrote: > > Have Sue D on the phone & guess what folks!? She won an autographed Melissa > Etheridge guitar in Stateline Nevada last night! It was a thrilling night Well, 'cuse me, but all I can say is "Holy Shit!" Can I touch it Sue, please?... PULHEEZE...damn. -- [email protected] Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same A persons greatest emotional need is to feel appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:54:35 -0500 From: chris haddy Subject: Phoenix concert Hey all, I have been lurking for a while now and I decided I should come out and make my first post. I was just wondering how many of you out there are going to the Phoenix concert? I am at school now suffering through finals and the one thought that is getting me through is that when I get done I get to go home and go to the concert the following night. If there are any other college students out there in the middle of finals, I send you my sympathy and wish you luck. Anyway, back to the concert. I can't wait. I managed to convince my mom to go with me. She usually doesn't like my music, but I think she will enjoy this. That's all for me. Back to writing my paper. Bye. Chris PS, Beth - I'll be rooting for Penn State in the Fiesta Bowl. Too bad they couldn't get a better team to play. Oh well. ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 11 Dec 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Fri Dec 13 00:01:00 1996 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:00:15 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 11 Dec 1996 to 12 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 00:27:37 -0600 From: John Taylor Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 11 Dec 1996 Hello, hello... Tell Sue D. I'm drooling like a rabid dog, and that if's an Adamas, she should name her price. John -- = Impossible: An opinion, not a fact. http://galstar.com/~falconer HOMEPAGE REVAMPED Sat.12/7/96 - Come check it out! mailto:[email protected] =A91996 John "Taylor" Yezeguielian - All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:34:33 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 11 Dec 1996 Hello MLE fans just got in from STATELINE show. As always, she's the most aggressive, emotional, awesome entertainer I have ever seen. I've followed her since Long Beach days. She gives it all to us every concert. I'm greatful that we have her to sing our thoughts and experiences. See you in L.A. 3rd row Dec. 22 Wingame ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 06:46:37 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: Sue D update! Hi, all, >>Have Sue D on the phone & guess what folks!? She won an autographed Melissa > Etheridge guitar in Stateline Nevada last night!<< Okay, that does it! Is SueD independently wealthy or what?! Has she not been to *every last darn* Melissa concert in the States since August?!!! What is she trying to do, break Tim's record?! I now return us to our regularly scheduled program. Later, Joyce ps--congrats, Sue! ;-) pps--oh, and if I receive *one more* email snowball fight thingy, my computer will probably blow up. I got three of those things yesterday......... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:35:32 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: definitely not a dead horse Hello all. Do you remember how I said on Tuesday that it was very quiet? Calm before the storm would have been more accurate. Yesterday was a bear. Hence, I am just now responding to yesterday's posts. Elaine wrote (in response to a post about "Making Love Out of Nothing at All) ***Didn't she record that several years ago? Or did Meatloaf or another ***of Steinman's buddies record it? Title sounds awfully familiar. AIR SUPPLY! I've never heard it by anyone other than them until Bonnie Tyler covered it. Elaine also wrote (teasing me): ***So, who do you have a shrine to in your one bedroom apartment? First, Elaine, how did you know I have a one bedroom apartment? You're not stalking me or something are you? But in answer to your question - ELMO! ;-) Doug ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:06:00 CST From: Claudia Smith Subject: Re: Sue D update! > Have Sue D on the phone & guess what folks!? She won an autographed Melissa > Etheridge guitar in Stateline Nevada last night! It was a thrilling night Way to go, Sue! I think YOU should now go on a world tour with that precious precious guitar! Congratulations! --Claudia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 11:30:00 PST From: Rachel Strass Subject: Snowballs suck, but Sue D sucks well BTW, you know, Miss Sue D, you really need to test out that guitar to make sure it's really an ovation. I mean, I'd hate to think that you got a fake! And since you yourself are not a conoussier of things musical, don't you think you should get a friendly, relatively local, expert to examine it for you? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 11:13:38 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: Re: Borrowing and Belching >>> Gwen Shinko 12/11/96 12:24pm >>> writes: >Our current brave (and crazy) list moderator, Jen Smith 'Crazy' being the operative term of choice in this statement! >>What The Hell!!! >:-\ I second that emotion! (Can I second my own emotion?) >An oberservation Jen made while she was: "Deb's retired leather-wear and *whip*>" >I say, YOU GO JEN!!! Well, er, that is as long you not also >planning on borrowing Deb's wife. Eh, Deb? Hmmm...how good *is* Tori with a whip? On second thought, maybe you should just send Cooper instead! jen--who wonders if spanking is allowed on the list... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 08:17:36 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: tacoma TACOMA!!!!! Here we come, Melissa honey. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:42:56 -0000 From: Suzanne Shmagin Subject: possible solution to behavior problem Hello again to all. I am writin g once again about the behavior issue-possibly with a solution. First, I must respond to John's response to my email. >Someone, a rather wise 15 you suggested that it's just a concert. Well >in a way you're right. From another perspective, I'd waited for many >months for her to come nearby, bought the tickets months in advance, and >gone through the considerable time, trouble and expense of driving what >ended up being 7 hours EACH WAY to see that show. Maybe the rude people >didn't know that, but if they'd been thinking of anyone but themselves, >that possibility might have dawned on 'em. So the concert represented >alot more than 35 bucks, and alot longer than 3 hours, and I'm not even >bringing up the emotional value some of those songs have for me. It's >still unbelievable to me that people could hear this, know these things, >and still say "tough shit." But it will be YOUR problem next time, you >self-centered people. Thanks for the compliment! Now, I understand completely what you were saying. I too paid a large sum of money ($99.50) to go see an ME concert with my stepfather, and some of the wild people just got on my nerves. I couldn't hear Melissa when she talked about inspirations for her songs. It bugged me, but I got to hear the music. Basically, here is my solution: There are all types of people in this world; some on one side of the spectrum, and others at the opposite end. We have to learn to live with these people because many of these people will never learn. Because people exist at such opposite ends, we all must compromise. To those who enjoy dancing, singing, etc. at concerts.....more power to you! Just be a little respective of those around you who ask you to tone it down. You don't need to stop what you're doing-just be a little more considerate about it. As for those who like to sit and watch--I find absolutely nothing wrong with that. Just don't let every little thing that the people do around you get on your nerves. A lesson for us all: We've all been writing in asking others to change, but we're all too stubborn to blame ourselves. If we all try a little harder to be slightly more tolerant, we might not have to deal with this issue. Please take this into consideration. Sincerely, Suzanne --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:49:03 -0500 From: CJ Subject: Re: Concert behavior I have broken my own vow not to become involved in this unbelievably inept thread, but here I am... I think you should all turn your incredible energies for debate towards world peace, rather than this petty discourse. It would certainly be time better spent. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:45:58 -0000 From: Suzanne Shmagin Subject: THANKS SONYA- Thank you for supporting me! I hope others see it my way too. To all, read my solution to the behavior problem--it might help! Sincerely, Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:58:40 -0800 From: Marleen Niekel Subject: ME live in concert... not really:-( Hi there, Does the following sound familiar to any dutch listers??? I'm just sitting behind my computer reading today's digest(s), with the radio on. When I hear the DJ say: 'Melissa Etheridge Live in Concert...' Well, they don't have to say that twice to me, so I run down to my stereo as fast as I could, wanted to put in an empty tape, but the only empty tape I could find was still in the package, had to unwrap it (which isn't easy if you're in a hurry;) Well, by the time Come To My Window was almost finished, I had the tape in, but then... No more Melissa :-( What the hell is that with Radio 538 Live In Concert ??? I wouldn't call ONE song a concert !!! Does anyone know what's the deal with R538 Live In Concert ??? Maybe I'd better go and listen to Kink FM (right, Marcel???) Bye, Marleen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:15:46 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Sue D is in the house! Well I managed to actually wake up on time & go pick up Sue at the airport on time. First thing on arrival back home was checking out the Ovation. It's a beaut! We're off now to go do some shopping & then we'll be picking up Maggie at the airport later tonight. Susan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:19:54 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: Don't forget to Vote...and Tape tonight.... Don't forget to Vote for VH1's artist of the year... Number: (888)444-3614 YOU CAN VOTE AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT!!! There is a First Prize of a $25K Entertainment system to win and 200 2nd prizes(12 CD's for the artists of the year). This is the programing schedule for VH1 on Dec 12, there are several times Melissa is going to appear...Set your VCRS... Thursday, December 12, 1996 (ET) 11: 30 - 12 NoonArtist of theYear Nominee: Melissa Etheridge 3: 30 - 4 PM Artist of the Year Nominee: Melissa Etheridge 7 - 7: 30 PM VH1 To One Interview: Melissa Etheridge 7: 30 - 8: 30 PM Duets: Melissa Etheridge 8: 30 - 9 PM Artist of the Year Nominee: Melissa Etheridge Thanks, Sonya [email protected] Enjoy Life, because it's too short to be unhappy... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:12:23 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: thanks Thanks Jill, Gwen, Tracey, Colleen, Dina, Mandy, Randy, Shirl, Elizabeth, Francie, and all my buds for the b-day wishes today!!!! Beth (going home to watch ME being featured on VH1 on my birthday ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:58:46 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: PETA poster, and more Many of you on this list are familiar with the PETA poster of Melissa and Julie posing naked for PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) as a PETA membership enticement, and many were disappointed how quickly PETA ran out of posters. Several of you obtained a copy of the poster from Rebecca O'Bryan, owner of Music For The Masses, a mail-order company in San Jose which specializes in collectibles (posters, CD's, T-shirts, photos, etc) of women musicians like k.d. lang, Melissa Etheridge, Janis Ian, Tori Amos, and the Indigo Girls. I just found out that Rebecca recently obtained a few copies of the famous PETA poster (item #1000M) which she is selling for $75 (plus shipping), so here's (what is likely to be) your last chance to buy the poster. Phone 408/287-8888 for info or to place an order... she can ship anywhere. ---- In addition, Rebecca is selling her mail-order business! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's correct... her new career in movies and voiceovers is taking off, she does not have time to manage her mail-order business *and* acting, so she is selling her product inventory, customer list, and supplier list. I spoke with Rebecca last night, and she told me she will be able to give a few months assistance to the person who purchases her business... I know one or two people who have already indicated they want to buy her business, but I know Rebecca would be interested in any serious inquiries. For any of you who have always wanted to run your own mail-order business, especially a business in which you had a personal interest in the product, this might be an ideal opportunity. Inquiries can be directed to 408/287-8888. John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:43:05 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: Phoenix concert chris haddy wrote: > Phoenix concert? I am at school now suffering through finals and the one > thought that is getting me through is that when I get done I get to go home > and go to the concert the following night. If there are any other college > students out there in the middle of finals, I send you my sympathy and wish > you luck. THANK YOU! Gonna need it. Only one more day of class then FINALS WEEK, (then i'm done) =). Woo Hoo! Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: [email protected] Bowling Green State Univ. [email protected] Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 18:50:51 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: 10 years of covers Does anyone have the boot "10 years of covers" of ME's cover songs? I just saw it on the KTS site (www.kts.it) and it looked really good. Does anyone know the quality of that CD or anyothers that are on the site (of which I forget the names). Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: [email protected] Bowling Green State Univ. [email protected] Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:03:24 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re: 10 years of covers Roger Zender asked about the Melissa-boot "10 years of covers": >Does anyone know the quality of that CD or any others On Nov 23, Deb posted the following helpful info regarding MLE-boots: >There are tips at: http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/me_boots.html >And there are new bootleg updates in my current draft: > http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/me_boots.htm John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:25:35 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: 10 years of covers On Thu, 12 Dec 1996, John Miller wrote: > Roger Zender asked about the Melissa-boot "10 years of covers": > >Does anyone know the quality of that CD or any others > > On Nov 23, Deb posted the following helpful info regarding MLE-boots: > >There are tips at: http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/me_boots.html > >And there are new bootleg updates in my current draft: > > http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/me_boots.htm Does this mean it's good? :) Just kidding, thanks for the info. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: [email protected] Bowling Green State Univ. [email protected] Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 22:15:03 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: Sue D update! You are correct Sooz911, I am aware of every move that SueD is making so if anything happens to her I'll sick Marsha Clark on you!!! Please take good care of her for me cause she needs to be in one piece for the party at John's place during the BAB visit. Hey John what night will the party be? I asked Sue if she adhered to proper concert behavior(not dancing incesantly, laughing or talking to loud, smoking grass or flashing her breasts) and she replied, "Are you kidding!!!" and then riffled off an awesome guitar riff for me. On Wed, 11 Dec 1996 [email protected] wrote: > She's already warned me though that a lot of people on the list > know where she is & where she's going, so if she were to disappear in my > area, Shirl would probably come hunt me down! Way to go Sue!!! Night All, Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 23:51:18 -0500 From: Lisa M Mahoski Subject: VH1 hi everyone just posting to say thanks for the warning i got to see ME on VH1 tonight. As usual she was breath taking. I could have watched all night. But like they say good things must always come to an end. Until next time. ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 11 Dec 1996 to 12 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Sat Dec 14 00:00:44 1996 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 00:00:04 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 12 Dec 1996 to 13 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 22:26:28 -0700 From: Joyce Stoliar Subject: No one deserves it more Congratulations Sue, your persistence has paid off!!! I am so happy for you!!! You truly deserved the guitar, hopefully you won't be as anal about yours as I am about mine, one suggestion, the ink does rub off so be careful, I have yet to find something to keep it 100% permanenet. Have a great remaineder of th trip, I am so envious of all the people going to the last few shows, does anaybody have a thousand dollars to spare so I can go play with the BAB and catch a couple of the last shows??? Kidding, have fun whoever is going to any of them!!! Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 01:26:53 -0500 From: "D. Jessamyn Scott Breed" Subject: Light show @ LAst show! Hey All!!! It is *no wonder* that SueD won that autographed ovation! The spirit of St. Nick visited upon her a little early -- & rightly so!!!! SueD is the List's Premiere Elf! She has been *quite busy* cobbling away at Eight! 2-foot-by-3-foot wooden frames which will display, (in the form of battery-operated holiday lights) the letters: U R HEAVEN to our fair Lady of Etheridge at the show in Los Angeles (likely at the beginning of the first encore, LTWID.) YIPPEEEE!! Sue is probably also now busy, in the fine care of Sooz911, ironing out the final logistics of getting the letters *into* the concert. Fortunately, with a little help from guides on the MEIN tour package, Our List's Wish for Melissa will likely come to fruition!!!! Tim (who says HI!!!! to everyone) and many others will also be present at the show to lend a hand! To those of you who offered to sponsor a necklace, I wonder if maybe you'd be willing sponsor a pack of batteries instead. I will wait for final word from Sue about her expenses and relay the details to you so we can arrange to reimburse her! WOW! Thanks again for everyone's generous spirit! I think it is cute that Melissa said she might have to be dragged from the stage at the finale of the LA show. Little does she know our little secret is waiting for her!!! Shhh!!!! 10 days and counting... Good work, friends! KiP, Jesse who is getting into the spirit *<{=> -=-=-=-=- If (you are to) err and err you must then err on the side of trust --Voltaire ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:46:20 MET From: "A. Wolff" Subject: quality 10 years of covers Hello Roger, You wanted to know something about the quality of "Ten years of covers". Kelley Piper has a great Melissa page, on it is also a trading page. There is a rating-system for the stuff she has for trade. "Ten years of cover" has four stars, which means it is of a very good quality. The adress is: http://www.clever.net/lounge/ I got the casette of "Ten years of covers" and it is indeed a good quality. But even on the casettes of a less good quality you can still hear the fabulous voice of Melissa. Isn't that most important? Bye, Annemieke ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 05:26:12 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Sullied in Seattle Ahhhhh, wrested the keyboard away from Sooz to FINally put in my report. Can a girl be any luckier in life? Methinks NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, I believe the shock factor is still in full force. When that gentleman walked out on stage to announce the winner of the guitar I can't say as how I was paying particular attention knowing my past history with contests. As it finally dawned on me that it was MY NAME floating down off the stage I freaked out. (Well, that is, took on yet another persona) Janelle laughed uproariously as she said every possible bit of color had fled from my face. It was the rush of a lifetime! Hey Patti, we've got to get together and re-enact that pick passing again :) It certainly made the concert float by as I was gazing down on the crowd from somewhere near Jupiter or Saturn at that point. As Patti pointed out, however, the crowd more than made up for that interlude of pleasure. Melissa mentioned at one point that only Las Vegas could be that crazy on a weeknight (lets hope so because it did not reflect well on that place!) It only took a couple of people to ruin the feeling, but they did it in a big way. No one matched up to Alex, obviously, but as a result of the stupidity, Melissa cut the concert short. What goes around comes around! Now as to this hootchy-kootchy lounge stuff, it was a perfectly respectable lounge in Buffalo Bill's monstrously entertaining complex (yeah, right, when you stop laughing you can read on) And, yes, some poor idiot actually thought the contest had been rigged so the lounge singer won the guitar! I have to admit, Patti's unstifled laughter is appropriate here. Carrying a tune is not one of my higher functions. (Or lower for that matter!) That was the infamous 15 minutes of fame in my life, on the stage of a two-bit Stateline, NV lounge. Hmmm, what does that say about my chances in life? Many thanks to those wild women in the Big D, (luv all of you) as well as all the other good wishes. I was, truly, overwhelmed at my good luck. All I could think of once the guitar was in my hands was trying to call Shirl and Patti. The effort to avoid the calling was almost overwhelming as it would have been 3 am for those two. I do actually have some restraint, who knows where it comes from! Now, as to these other scurrilous barbs, alas they are all too true! Yes, this west coast woman browbeat me into performing an unnatural act. Shirl isn't the only shy & demure one around here ya know! Patti, did you have to announce to everyone how incredibly easy I am? Jeez...I must admit, the tattoo looks awesome and will offer good advice for many, many years to come. Now, I've got to work on Patti...it doesn't really hurt THAT much woman! When next we come together, I will offer up my most persuasive arguments along those lines. Maybe I can enlist the speaking skills of the infamous Zorro (are you listening Alex?) Don't tell anyone, but I forgot the release forms on this trip. We are working under cover to ensure that all pictures are smuggled out and made available for the general public. Patti, you are a wonderful cub reporter, that Brenda Starr hairdo and approach to life look good on you. To Randy, I have been properly nailed here. That phrase is on the refrigerator and I stand by it! John Juan, do you have such a marvelous collection or should I be out shopping for my own set to bring along???? Well, Sooz & I have returned from the airport adventure with Maggie in tow. We are gently sipping away at our chosen poison, I'm still trying to clear out my sinuses with that After Shock shtuff. Whew...I gotta get me some of that! Tomorrow, it is off to Tacoma to witness yet another miraculous evening with Melissa. Hopefully we will be seeing a gaggle of folks at the PCG, nothing like psyching up for a concert amidst a rowdy group of MEListers and associated friends. OK....Susan back in control of her keyboard now. Whew! I just want to say for the record I didn't do any strong arming when I innocently asked Sue if she wanted to hit the tattoo parlor. Once we were down there she was so eager she insisted on going first! I think we both are happy with the work done. I hope so since we get to keep it forever! But geez Patti..did you have to announce to everyone I wasn't a virgin!? Oh wait...you were talking about that tattoos! OK..I can go back to my lying about the other then. :) We managed to get Maggie from the airport. As we started to walk out the front door I said to Sue "Maybe I should call the airline & make sure the flight is on time." Then I said "Nah...they're hardly ever delayed any more these days" Talk about jinxing yourself. We drive across the valley only to find the flight has been delayed for 2 hours. The perfect excuse to head on down to Sapphos (the gay bar in Kent WA) We listened to karaoke & had some pain soothing drinks (much needed after the trip to the tattoo parlor!) But now we have her here safe & sound & wondering what she's gotten herself into no doubt. She arrived with a gift too! She asked me if I didn't like "dairy products" which of course got her a look of "huh!?!" I was thinking she'd brought me cheese or something. She then produced a bottle of Bailey's Irish Creme one of my absolute favorites. Needless to say I'm soothing my pain a bit more with some 'tainted' hot chocolate now. I think I'm gonna' have to put these 2 to bed pretty soon though. It's now 2:15 am my time, which is almost waking time in both of their normal time zones. Never visit a graveyard worker!! I'll let Maggie leave a quick note now..... Maggie here...well, as predicted the chainsaw was confiscated by airport security. But imagine my surprise when I found that Sue D brought the shiny new MLE-autographed AXE... We are outta' here! Susan (aka Sooz), Sue D & Maggie!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 06:58:24 -0800 From: "Diane Budjako [email protected]" Subject: Re: No one deserves it more Joyce Stoliar write: >I am so envious of all the people going to the last few shows, does >anaybody have a thousand dollars to spare so I can go play with the BAB and >catch a couple of the last shows??? Kidding, have fun whoever is going to >any of them!!! I have spent a thousand dollars on tickets and I live here in Ca. Boy are we hard core or what. Susan B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:49:05 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: the thread that just won't die Kate Blackmon wrote: >> This works about half of the time, usually when the person really >> hasn't noticed the effect they're having or doesn't think that >> other people mind. We tried that 3 times at a concert this summer. The people just didn't care. Even when one person said he was hard of hearing and couldn't hear the vocals over their incessant chatter. >> other people's enjoyment or in *politely* asking people to behave >> in a more considerate manner? Except that when you have to scream to be heard over the music, what one says may not sound polite. And you really don't want to get into a long flowery sentence because you're only missing more of the show. So a loud terse sentence may be perceived as impolite even if it isn't. >> See you all at the Pretenders concert at Union Chapel! I hate to disappoint you but I won't be there. Jenniffer Smith wrote: >> I don't know just exactly what it takes to make some people >> understand that CHAIN LETTERS are NOT ALLOWED on >> this list. Particularly when they're against the rules of the online service the person is on. But if the person didn't read those rules, why do you think they read the rules of this list? DOUG answered my questions: ***Didn't she record that several years ago? Or did Meatloaf or another >> AIR SUPPLY! I've never heard it by anyone other than them until Thank you! >> First, Elaine, how did you know I have a one bedroom apartment? Conjecture based on one of your messages. I didn't think you were talking about somebody else. :-) >> You're not stalking me or something are you? I stay in the Northern VA area when I'm in VA. Jenniffer Smith wrote: >> jen--who wonders if spanking is allowed on the list... That depends on whether or not the other person likes it. >2) You rude SOBs have convinced me that you really are >that selfish >> from your own. I might suggest that, unless you know for a >> fact that someone on this list partook in ruining your >> enjoyment of a show, I don't know. Some people have made it very clear that they don't intend to change their behaviour, regardless of whether it interferes with other's enjoyment of the show. >I'm going to consider it equal right when I either exert my >considerable physical presence by punch the jerks, >> You'd most likely be arrested for assault. There is a big If it's the only fight, if he's caught, if the person presses charges. I know somebody who used to work security at concerts and got into an average of a dozen fights/show. >> easier to just deal with it than buck it. I once had a guy yell, >> "Sit the f*** down," at my entire row for the *duration* of an >> MLE show...we were 3/4 of the way back from the stage and >> all 50 rows in front of me were standing. As far as I was Possibly hoping to start a chain reaction - if the row in front of him sat, then the row in front of that would sit, etc. etc. For most North American concerts, we pay for a SEAT, not to stand. That is why the ticket has a SEAT NUMBER on it...Personally, I'd like to know why people think they can stand on furniture that doesn't belong to them. They wouldn't do it at home or at a friend's. John Miller wrote: >> For any of you who have always wanted to run your own mail-order >> business, And maybe this person can lower the outrageous shipping prices. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:45:20 -0800 From: "Diane Budjako [email protected]" Subject: Re: Light show @ LAst show! Scott, will you tell Tim and Sue that I bought $100. worth of glowy necklaces for the concert too. Susan B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 05:44:40 EST From: "Mary M. MacDonald" Subject: Arduous Moon? Hey guys - It's 4:30 AM, and here I am in the lab, running sleep study, and blearily re-reading Victoria Starr's k.d. lang biography, "All You Get Is Me." Here's what I just ran across: "...[k. d.] pitched in to help aspiring filmmaker Julie Cypher make 'Arduous Moon,' a half-hour short about a restaurant, starring Lou Diamond Phillips as a janitor, k.d. lang as an outraged customer, and Cypher's girlfriend Melissa Etheridge as the performer in the piano bar." Does anybody know anything more about this? Wouldn't it be amazingly cool if someone with fabulous connections got a copy and did a tape tree for us? Failing that, maybe we can just speculate what the plot and dialog is like, and make it up for ourselves... -Mary, all too well acquainted with arduous moons by this time of night [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:58:41 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: Taping ME on VH1 Here I am in the bedroom taping ME on VH1 and I hear my girlfriend from the other room tell me to come in there she had to show me something....so at a commercial break I went in and ask her what was going on. She told me to look at the Christmas tree. When I turned around I saw this HUGE spot where the branches were missing. I ask her what happened, and she told me to take a closer look at the tree. As I circled the tree, I saw one of our cats about 2/3's of the way up just laying on a branch about half asleep. Needless to say the Christmas tree is coming down (before it's torn down). This is the first year we've tried to put up a Tree. That was my adventure of the night... Sonya ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:35:16 -0500 From: Toni Robinson Subject: Concert goers, vh1 & new baby >From: John Taylor >3) The next time I'm at a show and someone's being rude, intruding their >physical presence on me and intefering with my enjoyment of the artist, >I'm going to consider it equal right when I either exert my considerable >physical presence by punch the jerks, or call security if they're nearby >and have them removed. Since you guys don't care that you're ruining >others' good time, I'll no longer care if I ruin yours either. Think >I'm kidding? Watch me. Stop it..you're scaring me! You should most likely follow the good advice you've gotten from other listers..point it out to the person politely, keep it in perspective, etc. I don't think assaulting somebody is going to help you watch the show anyway. ----------------------- Thanks for the heads up on the vh1 special..saw it last night. Hope she wins! Somebody posted the number to vote on the list, but I think it was the wrong one..anyway, here's the one I have 888-444-3624. ----------------------- ohmygod..the reason I haven't posted much to the list lately is that we have this wonderful 5 week old, 4lb bundle of joy dressed up as a Corgi puppy, who is now frantically pulling my socks off and biting my toes..gotta run! Toni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:38:17 -0000 From: Suzanne Shmagin Subject: a different kind of santa To all: If everyone is going to declare that there is a Santa, well then I'm going to declare that there's a Hannukah Harry--Hannukah Harry Rosenbaum. Have a great Friday! Enjoy your weekend! Sincerely, Suzanne --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:29:44 -0800 From: "Sheri Yamada (Entex)" Subject: NW people Well, we're about 12 hours away from being in the same room as Melissa.........room, dome, what's the difference? Anyway, I wanted to pass a FYI along to anybody in the Seattle area. The Seattle PI (What's Happening section) has an article & photo of Melissa in it. It doesn't tell us much more than anything we basically don't already know. She did say that she probably won't be back in the studio until the latter part of 1998......but she says that she'll probably come out with a live CD (It's about time!!)!!! Ok, off to the Tacoma dome tonight and then Portland for Sunday's show! Take care everybody and have a great weekend.....I know I will!!! Peace - Sheri ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:35:02 EST From: JOANNE PARRA Subject: To any Philly area listers Hi Everyone! I was wondering of any of you crazy people in Philly had ever heard of a club (or maybe a bar?) called Sisters. A friend of mine told me about it, and I'd like to go, but I need directions, etc. If anyone could help me out, I'd really appreciate it. You can just reply back to me privately. Thanks is advance, and Happy Holidays everyone! Joanne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:47:34 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: Arduous Moon? In a message dated 12/13/96 10:48:12 AM, Mary wrote of Arduous Moon: <> You know, I tried to track that film down for the book, but could not find a reference to it anywhere *but* in Victoria Starr's book. I even posted a question about it to the AOL board (because Julie also browses that board on occasion, and I figured what the heck) but the only response I ever got was from yet another person who had also heard about the film but had never seen it or heard anything else about it. And I *surely* don't have any connections! LOL So.....let's just make up the plot ourselves, shall we? I'll start: "Melissa Etheridge sat dejectedly at the piano, distractedly running her fingertips over the ivories. Damn it all, why had she chosen the music busine ss, anyway? It was such a dead end: playing endlessly for half-tanked businessmen who requested "Feelings" hour after hour. Suddenly the main doors swung open and in stalked a woman Melissa had never seen before." Okay, someone else's turn. Now remember: kd lang pops up as an outraged customer, and Lou Diamond Phillips is the janitor! Later, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:51:02 -0600 From: Patti Fink Subject: Sullied in Seattle Hey there all! Well, besides the telephone call yesterday morning from our travelling wonder, SueD, to relate the FABulous autographed Ovation news and, ahem, related/unrelated events, we yapped last night for two hours and another almost two hours tonight. So here's the poop on a few things of interest.... Sue & Janelle made their way to the infamous Las Vegas venue (actually, it was out in BFE) way early and managed to encounter a table that was collecting names for a drawing to win the guitar. They were packing up, actually, but let them sign up anyway, even though the prerequisite was to present your concert tix, which they didn't have -- not even the MEIN card. So at 7pm on the stage, they made the drawing and called Sue's name!!! I think I would've just DIED right there (as I almost did when Melissa gave me her pick in Austin)! Anyway, after the concert they made the presentation of the guitar to her on the stage of a nearby hootchy-kootchy lounge in the venue, and several people apparently thought she was a lounge act! She said (not just once, mind you) that it is JUST BEAUTIFUL!!! As we were talking on the phone yesterday morning, Janelle apparently broke one of the strings, but I think Sue handled it admirably! JUST kidding! She went right out and bought a *proper* hard case for her treasure, especially considering its upcoming travels. It's SOOOOOO cool that SueD got this guitar!! Can't imagine a more worthy and appreciative recipient and caretaker!! WAY TO GO, SUE!!! Still on the guitar note , I got home from work this evening to find the greatest message on my machine from Claudia Smith....She & Janis had read that Sue won the guitar so they were eager to hear all about it and just *knew* I'd have "a-l-l the details" (which, of course, I do), so when I rang 'em up they were just as excited as everyone else who's heard the good word....awRIGHT SUE!!!!! Sue recounted how *rude* the crowd was in Las Vegas, and even with 4th row seats they still had to encounter drunken yappers who weren't there to listen to Melissa. In addition, she said some woman atop another's shoulders threw her bra at Melissa (and we all know how much she *loves* that) and then opened her shirt right in front of Melissa to reveal not-even-attractive ta-ta's. She said that it was CLEAR that it was *NOT* Alex -- by any means -- as Melissa did not even look, muchless fall to the ground....no fixation, no loss of concentration, no need for a break. Apples and oranges, Alex, so you still hold that *special* spot! Fortunately, security descended upon the large bared nipples in due course. OK, so now Sue trekked to Seattle, where she and Sooz have gallivanted endlessly today. Sooz then (apparently quite easily, with very little effort and no perceptible sign of resistance) persuaded the easy (but *not* cheap!) SueD to do something she's NEVER done before! Our Sue has been tainted...yes, SULLIED!! Imagine! Corrupted! If you haven't guessed, she capitulated almost *immediately* (what a WILD woman!!) and now has a 3-inch-square TATTOO which states (in black outline filled with purple) "Speak True" on the inside of her right ankle! Wow!! She seems pretty happy with it....and I've requested pictures of it with her new camera (damn! forgot to get a release though), so hopefully we'll be able to post it somewhere soon. Sooz, *not* a tattoo virgin apparently, got one also, so we can all rest in the comfort of knowing that they are in a mutual state of skin care at this hour. After an extended discussion of the "adventure" this evening, SueD, Sooz, & I did phone shots....the obligatory "Mean People Suck" and then a facultative but joyful "Sullied In Seattle" shot.... Sue, have your sinuses recovered yet? Oh, for you folks worried about Brenda Starr, I've taken on the role by proxy for the evening and must report that while talking on the phone, Sue played with the magnets on Sooz's fridge and managed a truly original thought from the available word magnets: "I love kissing soft loins until the moon is laughing and gay." John, you might want to limit the available magnets on your fridge *NOW* while there's still time!!! (Just in case....) ;) OK, I'm signing off now....Sooz & Sue have no doubt left for the airport to collect Maggie at this writing, and we should fully anticipate more raucous ribaldry in the hours ahead, especially at the Tacoma show! HAVE A BLAST, YOU BRAVE'N'CRAZY GALS!! Reporting LIVE from Dallas, Patti Fink [email protected] PS Today was Ground Zero......WELCOME TO TEXAS, JUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D PPS Hey Renee with the short red hair! Janis & I want to meet you for lunch on T or W next week...Pappasito's on Central...got pix & tape for ya both....gimme a call, chick! PPPS Rauch...I think you should *DEFinitely* arrange to verify the authenticity of SueD's guitar at the *earliest* opportunity! And it calls for "The Body Song"! :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:18:09 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: ME's Drummer I was just listening to my Amanda Marshall CD and reading the liner notes when I ran across Kenny Arnoff as being her Drummer/Percussionist! Is there any connection with Amanda to Melissa? I just thought that was cool. I remember seeing ME in concert and wondering who was that Drummer because he kicked ass! Does anyone know of any other CD's he's on. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: [email protected] Bowling Green State Univ. [email protected] Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:31:46 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Sue D...bigger than Melissa? Hi everyone! Is it my imagination or is Sue D getting to be MORE popular than Melissa? If she is, get that notepad from her!!! She will publish a tell all book about all her adventures and, well, she has ALOT of DIRT!!!! Look out!!! Sue...congrats on winning the guitar. Can I touch it sometime? Remember, I let you touch the autographed posters of MLE on my wall when you where here in Philly! Kidding! Francie PS...don't have fun, have TONS OF FUN!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:33:12 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Last minute leftover Tacoma ticket!! If anyone needs a single ticket for the Tacoma show tonight, we've got one! A friend cancelled at the last minute & won't be able to attend. If you are interested please post ASAP or leave a message at 206-609-9232. Susan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:43:58 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: The power of one dah! Sometimes I scare myself cause I can be such an airhead.... (g) Having a few minutes at the end of my work day, I decided to cast my vote for the VH-1 Artist of the Year award. I entered the phone no. which is: (888) 444-3624 and my phone started making all of those annoying beeping noises and I'm told the phone no. isn't valid. Now, I did remember that (888) is a newer exchange which is now being used in addition to (800) for toll free numbers. But ya know, it took me way too long after that to realize that I had to dial one, and then 888. (Sheesh...) But today is Friday the 13th so I guess I can use that as my excuse. Anywho, I did finally call and cast my vote and it was relatively easy, just took a min. or two. And yes, I did vote for MLE. Gwen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:21:38 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: Fiesta Bowl, VH1 Artist of the Year chris haddy wrote: >PS, Beth - I'll be rooting for Penn State in the Fiesta Bowl. Too bad they >couldn't get a better team to play. Oh well. rot roh !!! I think they came on strong at the end of the season. You know, some of my best friends are Texans... too bad someone's gotta' lose Also, this is a reminder to everyone - ROCK THE VOTE FOR MELISSA !!! Phone (888)444-3624 and vote for ME as VH1's Artist of the Year. I've already made everyone in my office vote - whether they wanted to or not... What with the holidays around the corner and all, people who want to keep their jobs have cooperated fully *lol* You're a mean one Mr. Grinch !!! And on Saturday and Sunday (Dec 14 and 15), VH1 will be re-running all 12 "Artist of the Year" half-hour specials. Melissa's is scheduled to air at 2:30pm on Saturday in case you missed it before. Okay, that's it for me. Have a nice weekend everyone. And BTW, *how* in the hell did SueD manage to win that guitar anyway? Beth (the HDCM gone to do more b-day celebrating) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 21:55:15 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Concert behavior CJ wrote: >I have broken my own vow not to become involved in this unbelievably >inept thread, but here I am... >I think you should all turn your incredible energies for debate towards >world peace, rather than this petty discourse. It would certainly be >time better spent. Look out, here come the thread police! The subjects have been clearly marked, so if you're not interested, please skip. But since there are a lot of different people discussing it, clearly there is interest from many people on the list. When that is no longer true, the discussion will die, that's kind of the nature of mailing list threads. -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 11-23 21:55 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I find people in general sexually attractive... but then I find trees sexually attractive too." - Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:03:37 -0500 From: Deb Subject: MEIN calendar, autographed guitars, live CD, Aronoff Just got the new MEIN calendar today. It's much better than previous years. I'm pretty sure it's larger than previous calendars, and it also has many pics I've never seen before. Well worth $12 for fans. =-=-=<>=-=-= Jenniffer Smith wrote: >Hmmm...how good *is* Tori with a whip? You'll never know! >On second thought, maybe you should just send Cooper instead! Is tomorrow soon enough? >jen--who wonders if spanking is allowed on the list... You and Glenna make all the rules -- weeeeeeee! =-=-=<>=-=-= Joyce Stoliar wrote: >Congratulations Sue, your persistence has paid off!!! I am so happy for you!!! >You truly deserved the guitar, hopefully you won't be as anal about yours as >I am about mine, one suggestion, the ink does rub off so be careful, I have >yet to find something to keep it 100% permanenet. A friend of mine has one of ME's autographed Ovations too (she got hers back in the B&C days, when ME actually played her Ovations! ), and she never plays it... it's just for show! =-=-=<>=-=-= "Sheri Yamada (Entex)" wrote: >She did say that she probably won't be back in the >studio until the latter part of 1998......but she says that she'll >probably come out with a live CD (It's about time!!)!!! Thanks for the update! I wonder about the live CD. Will it be a double-CD? Mostly new songs? Mostly recent shows? A mix of old and new songs/shows? I'd prefer a mix of old and new, and with the songs mostly taken from that CD's tour. =-=-=<>=-=-= roger zender wrote: >I was just listening to my Amanda Marshall CD and reading the liner notes >when I ran across Kenny Arnoff as being her Drummer/Percussionist! Aronoff is a major session musician, you'll find his name on many CDs (including YLS). -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-13 17:03 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "There's a river of people that runs past my eyes/ it's beautiful enough/ just to watch it go by/ but the trouble with water/ is she'll always leave you for gravity" - Ani DiFranco, "Hell Yeah" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:07:21 -0800 From: Mystery Subject: Re: Fiesta Bowl, VH1 Artist of the Year Beth Durff wrote: > > Also, this is a reminder to everyone - ROCK THE VOTE FOR MELISSA !!! Phone > (888)444-3624 and vote for ME as VH1's Artist of the Year. I have my vote in already! > And on Saturday and Sunday (Dec 14 and 15), VH1 will be re-running all 12 > "Artist of the Year" half-hour specials. Melissa's is scheduled to air at > 2:30pm on Saturday in case you missed it before. 2:30pm in what time zone?? I dont want to miss it! The Mystery Fan [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:44:43 -0500 From: Kelley at AOL Subject: Melissa for Christmas One of my friends want to surprise me with Melissa for Xmas so can anyone email me privately for websites that offer Melissa stuff such as boots, cd singles, etc. anything one might wish for. I know about MEIN. I love the stuff they have. So thanks in advance...hoping to get something good :-) Many thanks, Kelley "I am woman, I am invincible, I am tired." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:33:56 +0000 From: greg hawthorne Subject: just a story Hello everyone, Well I hope all of you out there are happy and having a good time. I just wanted to say a little something about my sister. So if you dont like it just skip this post. A couple of weeks ago I was visting my mother. My 4 1/2 yr old sister, Heather lives with her. I was talking to my mom about ME and how wonderful she was. I was also playing my guitar, Whan my sister yelled at us and said " I am going to be famous and stand on stage with Melissa and sing for everybody." I thought that was so cute. I was like if you do can I meet her, she said " Well...... Ok." Oh how cool. Then my mom dropped Heather off at my house today. Heather and I were in my office. I was trying to finish my school work for the day. I homeschool so I had to finish before my parents came home. Heather was playing my keyboard in the office and I was listening to Happy x-mas war is over, that was on a tape. Heather went to the living room to watch TV. When the song was over she came in and asked if I would play it again. I said Ok and put it on again. Heather said I just like to hear her. Hey thats cool! About the 5th time we listen to time Happy X-mas War is Over Heather wanted to hear ME's other songs. So I put on YLS, when it got to Shriner's Park the darn thing was skipping. Oh that made me mad, but oh well I will just have to get a new one. Then my mom pick up my sister a bit later. I dont know why I wrote this I guess it was just cool that my 4 1/2 yr old sister likes ME. Thanks for letting me waist your time with this story even if it was a little corny. lol. Eveyboby have a great time this weekend. I am going to a dinner party from 6pm tell 12 midnight, on saturday night. Oh yeah! I will try to have fun..LOL.. Take care and Party, but only if your in the mood. Ha ha:-) HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!!! Danielle Man it sure is cold up here... ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 12 Dec 1996 to 13 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Sun Dec 15 00:00:51 1996 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 00:00:14 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 13 Dec 1996 to 14 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:05:07 +0000 From: greg hawthorne Subject: ? about artist of the year Hello everyone, I was just wondering if anybody knows if we can vote on line. They said something about it and the keyword being vh1. I can't find it anywhere. If you know anything about it please e-mail me... Thank you. Danielle It is still cold up here! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 03:14:04 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: Kenny Aranoff, mostly Suzanne Shmagin wrote: >> declare that there's a Hannukah Harry--Hannukah Harry Rosenbaum. And I hope he left you lots of presents; he certainly left me lots. roger asked: >> Is there any connection with Amanda to Melissa? They're fans of each other. Amanda's done some great, imho, covers of Melissa tunes over the years. >> Does anyone know of any other CD's he's on. Too many to mention. Not that it will stop me. He was John Mellencamp's drummer for years so he's on many of John's albums. He's on John's tracks on the Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary Concert (that must have been a formal night - he's listed as Kenneth D. Aranoff). He's on Billy Pilgrim's first major label CD; wouldn't surprise me if he's on the 2nd one also. He was in the "house band" at the Elvis Presley tribute a couple of years ago so he must be on the CD for that. There was a joke once that he's on every rock album released. And it's almost the truth. Deb wrote: >> Jenniffer Smith wrote: >Hmmm...how good *is* Tori with a whip? >> You'll never know! Is that a specific "you" or a general "you"? ;-) >> I'd prefer a mix of old and new, and with the songs mostly taken >> from that CD's tour. Usually a live album is from the most recent tour. But then again, a side from each album tour would be nice. Hang on, there are 5 albums. That's 5 sides. And it would really be nice if, no matter how many CDs are in the set, that each CD be longer than 45 minutes. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 08:01:24 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: One heck of a Friday the 13th! SueD here posting at ungodly hours from the beautiful pacific northwest (Susan and Maggie had to go out on a Jack-In-The-Box run) Friday proved to be quite a day for the three of us, so what else is new you ask? Well, it all started innocently enough. We had piled into Susan's intrepid Jeep to head for our pre-concert gathering. Being as how it was Friday the 13th, we did not escape our trip unscathed. Somehow, the Jeep was caught up in a fender bender involving three cars. Noone was hurt (although Susan managed to get herself a good case of whiplash, more on that later) The poor Jeep has some boo boos on the back end but that tire really came in handy keeping our fellow accident participants from joining me in the back seat. I guess my string of luck just keeps on truckin' (eh, Patti?). But I digress (as per usual). A short while later after filling out the inevitible police report, we dashed off to the gathering. What a great group of folks we ran into. We just missed Tim Dunker, but did run into a group of around 15 people including Rhondda (of BAB fame), Maureen & Barb from Canada (eh), and Susan's police buddy Lisa. For whatever reason, Maggie felt she just HAD to jump up on our table and try to Macarena. I don't know if it was the alcohol or just the excitement of the Melissa concert that got her cranked. Anyway, we tried valiently to talk her out of it, but it finally took a concerted attack to drag her down. It certainly set the stage for the concert... Maggie here, back from Jack-in-the-Box...ME????!!!! MACARENA???!!! I was trying to disco. Back to Sue... Okay, okay, the main event. Everyone was scattered around the concert hall, that bulbous Tacoma Dome. Maggie and I ended up in the 24th row but those ended up to be better seats than we had originally thought. Sound was great, we felt as if Melissa was singing to us all night long. The crowd was, hmmmm, how shall we say it, eclectic doesn't seem to do it justice. A sampling of those around us revealed a very frightened white toast couple (he in a suit and tie if you can imagine that!), a family in our row, and a few thousand lebanese women (hehehe). Anyway, Melissa was in good form, excellent if I may venture to add. She had a good time with the audience, chatting away like we were all old friends. Maggie and I meandered back to the little stage and had absolutely primo spots for that set. We bellied up to the stage and settled in to enjoy. Melissa was awesome regardless of the various pieces of underclothing that landed on the stage. We were treated to many inspiring closeups, she was easily within "grabbing" distance but somehow I was distracted by having Melissa shimmying around right in front of my eyes. Maggie here again. The official "laundry launch" count for the little stage was 2 bras, 2 assorted other undergarments, some sort of plastic hair thing, and one earring. Back to Sue... Someone in the audience had the infamous Leavenworth yearbook (already signed by Melissa but as to when, that was unclear). Melissa brought it up and showed the yearbook shot, then she showed us the picture of her performing at her senior prom, lastly, she tracked down the picture of her performing in Oklahoma!. She also played around with a couple of the women at the back stage, sticking her foot out for them to touch then bringing it back. Sort of like doing the hokey pokey...I guess you had to be there! So (you ask out of boredom), where is all this going? Well, it seems my luck is holding on this trip. Melissa finished up and headed back up front and the whole back area was pretty much pitch black. One of the techs came around and handed me a pick of Melissa's. And, as Patti well knows, that pick was placed directly in my hand meant only for little old me. WooooWoooo Maggie looked at me in awe, shaking her head. I did not have the talent to score a pick the way Alex did, but somehow my aura worked anyway. What can I say, I have the guitar and needed a pick to go along with it. Melissa obviously knew I needed the complete set ;) Heaven, I'm in heaven, and my heart beats so.... Wow, in spite of our brush with destiny on the road, I must say Friday the 13th treated me rather well. Susan might care to challenge my take on the day, but I will leave that up to her. Now tomorrow is a day to "do" Seattle then off to Portland on Sunday. How can it get any better? Maggie here again. The two Susans are busy watching Women's wrestling on TV and downing junk food...What do you want to bet that Kenny Arnoff gives Sue his drum set at the next concert? By the end of the tour she should have everything from the stage. I have to say that Sue is the luckiest woman on the planet. That guitar tech singled her out to give her that pick! Well, I guess being in the back seat of a Jeep involved in a traffic accident might be considered bad luck. But once again, that luck was working and the spare tire managed to take the worst of it. We're all still more or less in one piece. As Sue described, the concert was fantastic. I'd never been in the first row at a MLE concert before, so getting to be at the edge of the little stage was especially wonderful. Thanks to Sue's vast experience with the set list to know exactly when to abandon our seats and start moving back there, I got to spend the whole set just a few feet away. And thanks to that proximity, I can give you today's fashion report - black t-shirt, denim overshirt with yellow and black stitching on the sleeves, snakeskin Doc Martens, and, um, seamless black leather pants. (What she really means is, there were no lines that God doesn't already include on the human body :)) OK...Susan here. I'm feeling incredibly good right now thanks to the good meds I got in the ER tonight. I must say this has been a very mixed emotion day for me. My Jeep is wrecked, my neck & head are killing me from the case of whiplash I have, but I did spend an incredible evening with some great folks! After the accident I called my friend Lisa who we were enroute to pick up & had her get on over to the restaurant to let people know that we'd be delayed but we'd still be showing up. As it happens we managed to get away from the accident scene quickly & were only about 20 mins late. I did miss meeting Tim Dunker so I'm hoping I'll get a chance to see him in Portland on Sunday. We had a great time having dinner & drinks & talking with other folks from the list. We met Shell & Lauren from Tacoma, Barb & Maureen from Canada, Rhondda from San Fran & the infamous BAB, Sheri & Lynn from this area (you live on Capitol Hill don't ya Sheri?) There were also 6 others who wound up at a different table but stopped over to say hello. Marcy & I'm afraid I can't remember the names of the others. It was great meeting everyone though!! I'd type more but I'm really starting to get loopy & I think I need to go to bed now. 1 more day to Portland! Wahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! So, on that note, we bid you all a fond good morning. We have managed to party the night away (yeah right, it was more like fantasizing the night away, hehehehe). Hope all have a great day. We'll check in later. TTFN the Seattle crew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:35:51 +0000 From: Margaret McArdle Subject: The Missing Boots Hello all, Well I was in contact with the hotel,I think the boots are those of Melissas because the interogation was more extensive than that of American Immigration (and I've had the "Joy !" of undergoing one of their secondary inspections) My success hinged on identifying which room they were left in.I said a forth floor suite knowing that there were 2 of them on that floor and Steven Girmant was in one,well after speaking with many an Officer I was told that all left behind property is kept for a year & a day after check-out and I should ask "my friend" to get in touch. My guess is they checked the room booking,saw it was under a Recording Company and sussed out I was A fan (you see us Irish are smarter than we're given credit for)and so they weren't so keen in giving them to me.Such is life......why I thought my crap luck in '96 would change I don't know,but I urge any of you with "connections" to get the details and give them a call for it would seem the Boots are there,Here's hoping someone can sort it out for Melissa, To those that are attending any of the final concerts my thoughts (even the pleasantly jealous ones) are with you, Margaret P.S. Randy; LTWID blasted loud on a freeway is the best prescription for all ills and I am taking it in copious amounts as I don't have access to VH1 either,although I registered my vote regardless. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 09:32:55 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Live CD Deb wrote: <<>>> I'm hoping that this built-up last show will be available at some point, through the record co. or otherwise. Or, for the official release, will it be like Deb asked? Maybe it can be filmed and released for home video by the record co.? A VH-1 special? Jill (Avoiding the mall at all costs on this Saturday in December!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 09:35:00 -0500 From: Julie Strietelmeier Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 12 Dec 1996 to 13 Dec 1996 > I was just listening to my Amanda Marshall CD and reading the liner notes > when I ran across Kenny Arnoff as being her Drummer/Percussionist! > > Is there any connection with Amanda to Melissa? I just thought that was > cool. I remember seeing ME in concert and wondering who was that Drummer > because he kicked ass! > > Does anyone know of any other CD's he's on. He is/was (?) the drummer for John Mellencamp. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 10:41:16 -0600 From: John Taylor Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 12 Dec 1996 to 13 Dec 1996 About the signatures rubbing off: Your luthier (guitar maker/repairman) would be the best person to consult, but if *I* had one of those signed instruments, I'd consider carefully putting a very light coat of shellac (sp) or epoxy resin JUST OVER THE ACTUAL SIGNATURE. The thickness of a guitar's top is important/critical to its sound (though less so with Ovation and some accoustic-electrics.) Covering the precious signature with a thin coating would be acceptable, though. Again, I encourage you to go to a guitar MAKER with the instrument. (No offense to local shops, but the tech who adjusts necks and changes strings knows nothing about finishes and combinations of finishes.) Good luck, enjoy, and remember that I drool, should one of you be disposed towards disposing of an Adamas. Yours, John -- = Impossible: An opinion, not a fact. http://galstar.com/~falconer HOMEPAGE REVAMPED Sat.12/7/96 - Come check it out! mailto:[email protected] =A91996 John "Taylor" Yezeguielian - All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:23:09 -0600 From: John Taylor Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 12 Dec 1996 to 13 Dec 1996 SueD, Any chance of you digitizing a photo of this wonderful and well-acclaimed Ovation? BTW, if you check out my Home Page, there's an image, Seattle Filmworks. Click on it to link to this company, which offers photo digitizing AND developing. You can send your film to them, they'll process it, send you back pics, a disk w/ the pics, even let you download them from the net. AND, there's an Index (like a proof-sheet) for each set. Highly recommended, and a way for those of us without scanners to show our stuff. John -- = Impossible: An opinion, not a fact. http://galstar.com/~falconer HOMEPAGE REVAMPED Sat.12/7/96 - Come check it out! mailto:[email protected] =A91996 John "Taylor" Yezeguielian - All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 19:37:55 -0500 From: Anne Haines Subject: Teresa's Tattoo available from Ladyslipper Just got the new Ladyslipper "Winter Season 1996-97" catalog, and in the section of new stuff, they've got the video of Teresa's Tattoo (the infamous film directed by Julie Cypher & featuring cameos by MLE and k.d. lang). It's $19.98 (plus postage, yadda yadda)... If you're interested in getting this video, support the great folks at Ladyslipper and order it from them! :) WWW: http://www.ladyslipper.org phone: 800-634-6044 snailmail: PO Box 3124-R, Durham NC 27715 Disclaimer: I don't work for Ladyslipper (I wish!); I just think they're majorly terrific folks and their catalog makes me drool all over my keyboard. Tons of great music by women, all different kinds... much of which is difficult or impossible to find elsewhere. Making out her xmas list, Anne in Indiana %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% "If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library?" --Lily Tomlin %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~ahaines/ %*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 02:24:58 -0000 From: Vicky Adair Subject: New User/Hello Everyone! Hi Everyone, I'm new to the list and since I belong to two ME mailing lists I'm not sure if I'm posting this correct. I hope it gets to the list. I guess that's why I have been putting off sending a post for a while now. Well I'm running out of time so I figured I better give it a try now. O.K. well I hate writing things about myself but I thought it would be nice to tell you all a little bit about myself. I was born in S.F. and I live in the East Bay now. I play drums in an all female band. I'm 36 yrs young, I love all outdoor & water sports. I love camping & hiking, riding my motorcycle, and I windsurf, jetski, waterski, wakeboard, kneeboard, snowski and I love playing sand volleyball. I have been a HUGE ME fan since her club days. I have been to every one of her concerts she has ever done in the Bay Area. I love her writing and in fact alot of my friends say the songs I write remind them of Melissa. Of course that is a great compliment. When I met her I told her I would love to one day get to jam with her. Hey! Dreams can come true. I always wanted to meet Joan Jett when I was a little girl and we are now very good friends. so... you never knowwww... :) Now the reason I'm writing to you all now. I am going to all of the California shows and I was just wondering if anyone on the list wants to meet up at a gay bar in Sacramento? I know where all of them are in L.A. and S.F. but I have not been to any in Sacramento for a long while. My girlfriend and I are probably going to get a room in Sacramento. I would just love to meet some of the wonderful people on this list. I will be reading my email until Tues. night then it's off on a concert run for "T" and I. We are going to S.F. on Wed & Sacramento on Thu for Melissa, then it's off to San Jose on Fri for Toni Braxton, then we're off to L.A for Melissa's final shows. What a wonderful Christmas present to ourselves. e-mail me if you know of any good spots in Sac. Looking forward to hearing from any of you Thanks in advance, Vicky Adair [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 18:27:07 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Melissa interview The huge Melissa fan-base in the San Francisco Bay Area is going to get a treat in their Sunday paper tomorrow... here's a little preview today. Tomorrow's Sunday newspaper (jointly published by the San Francisco Chronicle and Examiner newspapers) has a Melissa Etheridge interview in the Chronicle's DATEBOOK (locally known as the 'Pink Section'), by independent contributor Dave Ford. The article is long, and I will only include a few selected quotes, but if you have web-access, you can view the entire article Sunday (Pacific time) when it is published... use the following URL: http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/index.shtml Then select 'Sunday Datebook' and search for an article on page 50, entitled 'Melissa Without Secrets'. You'll have to wait for them to publish it tomorrow, as they still have (it's Saturday evening here) *last* week's Sunday Datebook at their web-site. On the subject of her year-and-a-half tour to promote YLS, she says: "Looking back, I won't ever do this again. I just want to sing to my baby every night in Julie's belly, and I can't right now. I've missed out on the miracle as it's taking place." On gay parenthood, she says legal restictions on gay parents "... make me crazy. When my accountant gives me tax papers to sign, I get nuts. The millions of dollars I pay to this country, and they won't let me have (official custody of) my child" On her relationship with Julie: "The right relationship causes you to work on yourself. I realize I have to walk through my hell and my fires to keep this person whom I love so much. That means looking at your past, and why you react certain ways, why you run away, why you feel someone isn't loving you enough." On society's generalized discomfort with homosexuality: "It's this massive collective fear of sex and sexuality in general. I am totally unequipped to tell my child about sexuality when the time comes, because my parents didn't tell me, because their parents didn't tell them, and so one. And (lesbians and gays) are having sex just to have sex, not to procreate, so we're considered really evil." Oh! One more thing... she says she loves San Francisco . John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 19:46:47 -0700 From: Joyce Stoliar Subject: Autographed Ovations >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:03:37 -0500 >From: Deb >Joyce Stoliar wrote: > >>Congratulations Sue, your persistence has paid off!!! I am so happy for you!!! >>You truly deserved the guitar, hopefully you won't be as anal about yours as >>I am about mine, one suggestion, the ink does rub off so be careful, I have >>yet to find something to keep it 100% permanenet. > >A friend of mine has one of ME's autographed Ovations too (she got hers >back in the B&C days, when ME actually played her Ovations! ), and she >never plays it... it's just for show! I originally won my guitar during the Canadian Never Enough Tour, I was afraid to touch it for more than two years, but I thought what a shame to never play such a beautiful guitar, so I got a case and took a couple of lessons. BTW Sue its the fuzz in the case that rubs the autograph off, I was fortunate though, cause when I met Melissa this past March to give her her bowling shirt, she touched up the original autograph and signed it a second time, (quite a chore to find those silver paint pens in a town of 7000) since then though the guitar never goes in the case, and I have since purchased another Ovation to play. I am so sad that the end of the tour is coming up and I am unable to meet up with more listers and see another show. Have the BEST time whoever is attending any of the last shows. Question for Sue D. are you ever going back to work???? Take care all, Joyce, The Shirt Gal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 22:01:54 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: more tv appearances >From "Rock on TV": December 21 - VH-1 - 2pm - Storytellers 10:30pm - Best of "Duets" (Melissa and Joan Osborne are listed so this may be the only ME duet shown) And, not ME, but for those who get the "real" Much Music, Dec. 23 there is an Amanda Marshall spotlight and a rerun of the Annie Lennox "Intimate and Interactive". Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 13 Dec 1996 to 14 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Mon Dec 16 00:00:49 1996 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 00:00:11 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 14 Dec 1996 to 15 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 21:15:39 -0800 From: Christine Subject: the Tacoma show My girlfriend and I were utterly awed by the lady Melissa and her crack-tight band last night. It was the 3rd time I'd seen this amazing woman in concert and, by far, it was THE BEST gig ever! Three solid hours of intense, energetic and passionate music - not to mention the usual doses of wonderful, warm and hearty chatter. We didn't want the night to end!!! Goddess bless MLE! Christine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 23:32:02 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: One heck of a Friday the 13th! > lastly, she tracked down the picture of her performing in > Oklahoma!. Say, what picture is that? From the Norman, Oklahoma show or something else??? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:16:27 -0500 From: Tei at netcom Subject: any GH fans?/best to Sue D Greetings fellow listers........ First off... I need some assistance..... I am a GH (General Hospital) fan... and I was wondering if anyone got the prime time special video taped ( it aired this evening... called Twist of Fate)I went flookie with my vcr so inadvertantly missed it... If anyone has a copy on video... I will be willing to do some trading or even send some $$$... Please get in touch if you can help me out there.... Next thing... I want to send my best to you Sue D(Ellyn) Sounds like you are having the time of your life....!!!!!!!! I was also glad to hear that although you and the others were banged up a bit that no one was badly scathed!!! Congrads on the guitar... I wish you even greater luck the duration of your trip!!! When you come back to see us in New England...\ bring some of the warmth with you!!! To many others I know I owe e-mail to... please be patient with me.... I am not deliberatly neglecting you... A special hi.. and extra strong excuse me ( and a please forgive for my lag time in getting back to you) To my pal six!!!! Happy Holiday Celebrations to all!!! Back to Responsibility..... hailing from NH.. tei! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:36:59 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 13 Dec 1996 to 14 Dec 1996 Hello... =) Sue D., Congratulations on getting that guitar pick... You are one lucky girl... I hope all those involved in that little accident are okay, Thank God no one was seriously hurt... Be careful with those pain killers... =7 I watched Rosie on Saturday Night Live tonight... I was *ROTFLMAO* at the Catholic School skit... Woooowwww... That was funny... I needed a good laugh. She was so cute when she was *almost* ready to just give in and laugh herself... ;) Well, just wanted to say hello to everyone... =) If any New York Listers are gonna be in the Great Neck, NY area... My family has a beautiful Native American, New Age store there... I make jewelry and sell it in the store... Just something to think about for your holiday shopping... E-mail me privately if you need more info... =) Peace, Kiva [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 05:12:16 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Doing Seattle right! Susan here (aka Sooz911) with another Seattle update. We've just returned from Seattle where we had a great day. We first went down to the Pike Street Public Market & checked out all the shops there. Actually we were about to head out the door when Maggie & I had an urge to feel Sue D up. After a quick feel we were out the door. Oh...did I tell you it was her jacket we were feeling? Anyway...off we went in my Jeep which now has a big boo boo in the back. At least it wasn't wrecked so bad we were without wheels for the weekend. So we went shopping at the market. While we were there we ran into Rhondda, Barb & Maureen. We are everywhere you know! On the way back to the car, we had to make a quick stop at Fantasy Unlimited to browse. Maggie found a great new bicycle helmet. It's chrome with big spikes coming out of it & would go great with the dog collar I saw Sue D looking at with longing. After leaving there we headed up to Capitol Hill (gay Seattle) We went to the Broadway Market & checked out the shops there. While there we sat down for a bit to boost our caffeine level back up & watched a small child walk over & hit the emergency button shutting down all the escalators in the mall. The child's parents then taught the child the appropriate way to handle making mistakes & facing up to what you've done. They ran like hell! We took a little stroll down Broadway from the market & went to The Pink Zone which is a gay pride shop. Sue D picked up a bunch of rainbow flag stickers & she's going to make her ME symbol rainbows for all our vehicles. We then headed to the Wildrose which is a women's bar on Capitol Hill. The sights were quite nice there! A woman was selling raffle tickets to raise money for a soccer team from the area that will be going to the gay games. Maggie & I each bought 1 ticket, but Sue D bought 2 & the woman said "You are great...can I kiss you?" Sue didn't want to be impolite so she planted one on the woman. At that point Maggie & I were both willing to buy another ticket for such a good cause! I couldn't drink at all tonight. I'm taking muscle relaxers for my whiplash & I was the driver anyway so I had a couple of Cokes & then ice water. Sue & Maggie made up for it though & drank my share on top of theirs. They both had beer but I had to introduce them to Goldschlager & Jagermeister shots. After a few of each we piled back into the Jeep & headed for home. After all...I have a bottle of Aftershock here. Another great shooting drink I introduced them to. On the way home Maggie was kind enough to point out that it was a good thing I was the driver as she was having a difficult time even being the passenger. Sue just kept clinging to the roll bar & watching the rear end for fast approaching vehicles. We're all a little paranoid about people getting too close to the back these days. Now that we are home safe & sound, I took the good meds the doc gave me last night & I'm just about as happy as Maggie & Sue right now. We listened to some music, took pictures of the new tattoo artwork we have & posed with the guitar & pick that Sue has acquired over the last few days. I have a set of magnetized words on my refrigerator & Maggie & Sue have managed to come up with quite a few interesting sentences for me. I don't think it's legal for me to post them here. They also managed to drop "joy" in the garbage so I hope noone ever wants to make a sentence at my house with that word in it! Sue is on the phone with Patti Fink right now filling her in on the last few days events. I talked to Patti for a while & I explained that mine was straight & Sue was having a hard time with that. I then explained that it was actually straight up until the end & then it curved slightly. Oh...did I mention we were talking about the hallway in my house? Anyway...I'll let someone else take over now. It's on to Portland tomorrow. Wahooooooooo! Maggie here...I have nothing to add to this. I plead the fifth.... (she's really too hammered to handle a keyboard right now!) Maggie here...NONS3ENCE. BTW the 3 is silent... I am not tooo sober, not sober at all and it is 1:30 am Pacific time. I can't find the f***ing keys! (<-----edited by Sooz so as not to offend anyone) Never mind, I'm just old and slightly senile, well, maybe more than slightly senile. Anyway, what a day this has been. We had very little ambition until it was time to head down to Pike Street Public Market. Indeed, Seattle is a beautiful place where everyone should venture. Maggie turned out to be a true party animal. I know, hard for everyone to believe that a (non Houstonion) college professor could be this much fun. Who woulda thunk it! I can't mention much because I am toasted...Susan says NOOOO, GOD. Yup, it is true! I am one incredibly happy camper right now, so many good things have come of this trip. I even made an impression on those women in the The Wild Rose because of my newly acquired Melissa Pick. Even strangers are impressed with me now, what else is there to life. Well....Susan back at the helm now. Time for us to get some zzzz's. We've got to get up early to take Maggie to the airport. Unfortunately she's got classes Monday so she won't be joining us in Portland. Sue & I will try and get something posted tomorrow night after we get back home. We're getting used to posting after 2am!! Susan, Sue D & Maggie!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 09:13:17 -0500 From: Julie Strietelmeier Subject: Melissa .mids Does anyone have any .mid files of ME songs? If so, I would be grateful if you could email them to me. Thanks, Julie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 11:10:31 -0500 From: Patrick McKeough Subject: My 1st post Hi, This is my first post and I'm not sure if it will work but...whatever. I just 'discovered' Melissa's music about a month or so ago, but since then I have been a woman on a mission: MUST FIND MORE MELISSA MUSIC. Hey, I'm easy to buy presents for this year. I also really like the Indigo Girls, Ani Difranco and Sarah McLachlan. Which reminds me...Does anyone have any boots (not the shoe kind) that they would want to trade for? If you could email me privately that would be good. OK, That's all I have time to write now, I must be off to work. TTFN, Patricia [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 11:14:53 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: Doing Seattle right! While I enjoyed the entire post about the Seattle adventure, I was ROTFL when Susan (Sooz911) wrote: >While there we sat down for a bit to boost our caffeine level back up & watched >a small child walk over & hit the emergency button shutting down all the >escalators in the mall. The child's parents then taught the child the appropriate >way to handle making mistakes & facing up to what you've done. They ran like >hell! You just know that these children will grow up to be the same people who act rudely at concerts. Michelle "Everybody clings to their own fear Everybody hides some scar" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 13:14:14 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Oklahoma, ME's Religious Convictions Happy Sunday, all-- Anne E. Zachritz asked: >>Say, what picture is that? From the Norman, Oklahoma show or something else???<< Uh-uh. No, she was referring to two photos in Melissa's senior year Leavenworth High School yearbook. Melissa played the part of Aunt Eller in the musical *Oklahoma!* One pic shows Melissa rocking in a rocking chair and the other shows her with a good many "cowboys" in the cast. ;-) [email protected] (Debbie Henry) said: >>I'm sorry that I frightened some of you - I can't imagine people finding ME (as in me, myself) scarry but....I guess some of you did. Why?<< Maybe because some people think it's strange that you seem compelled to "convert" Melissa Etheridge to Christianity? Actually, I doubt you actually *frightened* anyone, except that you came off as a bit obsessed, which is a scary thought...but anyway, I just thought it was terribly presumptuous to assume Melissa needs, or wants, "religion," or that, if she did, Christianity is the religion she would choose. Melissa has, in fact, on numerous occasions stated that she has her own spirituality and feels happy and blessed with that. So why would you want to shove your own beliefs onto her? Just my humble opinion, of course. Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:08:13 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Yearbooks [email protected] wrote: >Someone in the audience had the infamous Leavenworth yearbook (already signed >by Melissa but as to when, that was unclear). Melissa brought it up and >showed the yearbook shot, then she showed us the picture of her performing at >her senior prom, lastly, she tracked down the picture of her performing in >Oklahoma!. I wonder if there are any of those yearbooks left at the Leavenworth libraries. A friend of mine made me photocopies of MLE yearbook pics years ago, but I'll bet that many people were less thoughtful and just stole the books, keeping future fans from getting a look. =-=-=<>=-=-= "Anne E. Zachritz" wrote: >> lastly, she tracked down the picture of her performing in >> Oklahoma!. > >Say, what picture is that? From the Norman, Oklahoma show or something >else??? >From the musical, "Oklahoma." They're pretty funny, with MLE ("Missy" as the yearbook calls her) in a frumpy dress and shawl, and an old lady's wig on. :) -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-15 14:08 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ___________________________________________________________________________ "Some chick says/ 'thank you for saying all the things I never do'/ I say 'you know the thanks I get/ is to take all the shit for you/ it's nice that you listen/ it'd be nicer if you joined in/ as long as you play their game girl/ you're never gonna win'" - Ani DiFranco, "Face Up and Sing" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:35:57 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Kenny Aranoff, mostly Elaine Naiman wrote: >he's listed as Kenneth D. Aranoff). He's >on Billy Pilgrim's first major label CD; wouldn't surprise me if he's >on the 2nd one also. Nope. Must've been busy that week. >Deb wrote: > >>> Jenniffer Smith wrote: >>Hmmm...how good *is* Tori with a whip? >>> You'll never know! > >Is that a specific "you" or a general "you"? ;-) General. Mostly. ;-) >Usually a live album is from the most recent tour. STOP! STOP! Don't even *say* that! I can't even imagine having to buy a live CD from the YLS tour! OTOH, I would love to have a legit copy of that funky version of "Brave and Crazy" (wih the congas!) from the YIA tour (wasn't it?). It's one of the few times she's actually done something different with a song inc concert. >But then again, a >side from each album tour would be nice. Hang on, there are 5 albums. >That's 5 sides. They can skip YLS, it's fresh in our memories anyway. >And it would really be nice if, no matter how many CDs are in the set, >that each CD be longer than 45 minutes. I was shocked to find that Wilco's recent double CD has 36 minutes on one and 40 on the other (it *is* discount priced, though). OTOH, the import of Crowded House's best-of compilation (RECURRING DREAM) has a bonus live CD which is 72-minutes. You just never know. -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-15 14:35 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "You'll say 'did they love you or what'/ and I'll say 'they love what I do/ the only one who really loves me is you'/ and you'll say 'girl you kicked some butt'/ and I'll say 'I don't really remember/ but my fingers are sore and my voice is too..." - Ani DiFranco, "You Had Time" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:23:22 -0500 From: Deb Subject: CDs of the Year Well, it's that time of year again... time to reflect on the many CDs you've purchased, and separate the wheat from the chaff... here's my best of list: 1) Indigo Girls, 1200 CURFEWS. An amazing live double-CD, an obvious labor of love. Includes many songs not found on their CDs, and comments in the liner notes from each of the Girls describing the songs or the shows they came from. 2) Ani DiFranco, DILATE. This one's a bit of a departure for Ani, with industrial and hip-hop influences among others, but no less brilliant for it. The lyrics are as amazing as ever, and the music alternately rocks hard and swings mellow. 3) Aimee Mann, I'M WITH STUPID. Aimee's one of the best pop songwriters ever. See her in my artist spotlight at http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/music.html for more info. 4) Shawn Colvin, A FEW SMALL REPAIRS. Long-awaited return to recording her own songs, and well worth the wait. Some of her best songs are here. 5) September 67, LUCKY SHOE. Shannon Worrell and Kristin Asbury are local (Charlottesville, VA) artists made good. With backers like Dave Matthews and David Lowery (Cracker), they've finally got this major label release out. Worrell's vocals may remind you of Shawn Colvin, and the harmonies with Kristin are to die for. Quirky electric guitars, unique rhythms, and great songs differentiate this from other folk-rock fare. If you're intrigued, search for these on my Web site (I don't have Sept 67 there yet) or at http://cdnow.com and give them a listen. -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-15 14:23 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I see the same shit every day/ the landscape looks so bleak/ I think I'll take the first one of you home/ that does something unique." - Ani DiFranco, "Face Up and Sing" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 12:18:36 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Melissa Interview #2 Bah Humbug! Last night I wrote about a long interesting interview with Melissa to be published in today's Sunday San Francisco Chronicle, and I said: >if you have web-access, you can view the entire article Sunday (Pacific >time) when it is published... use the following URL: > > http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/index.shtml It appears the Chronicle only puts articles on their web-site if the article was written by one of their own staff... since the interview was written by independent contributor Dave Ford, it is *not* included on their web-site... ARGH! The only way to see the article today is to buy the Chronicle... if you live near a large bookstore (Tower, Barnes & Noble, Borders) you can probably find the San Francisco Chronicle in their out-of-town newspaper section... or you may be able to order back issues directly from the newspaper... phone 415/777-7559 (their subscription service) and request information for ordering back issues... if you follow this route, be sure they promise to include the 'pink section'. Other options are (1) someone is able to make photocopies and send you a copy via snail mail, (2) the article may appear on the web some time in the future and you can view it there... I'll keep my eyes open for it on the web and alert the list where I find it, or (3) someone with a lot more free time than I have (and a copy of the original article) may be able to type it for distribution via email. John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 12:14:22 -0800 From: Sherri Lynn Jacobson Subject: signatures on guitars Before anyone tries coating their signatures with shellac, varnish, or ANYTHING else, please be sure you know what kind of pen was used to sign it. If it was a paint pen of any kind there is a good chance that the finish you choose will make it smear or run...and if the pen was a metallic paint pen finish (if applied by brush or spray can) will make it completely dissappear, leaving you to tell your friends "yeah, that silvery section, that WAS Melissa Etheridge's signature". I agree that you should check with a guitar maker to find out what works, but then try the suggestion on a peice of wood with paint or permanent marker on it because even manufacturers don't deal with signed guitars every day. =) Happy Holidays! take care, Sherri << Subject: Beth, Beth wrote: >chris haddy wrote: > >>PS, Beth - I'll be rooting for Penn State in the Fiesta Bowl. Too bad they >>couldn't get a better team to play. Oh well. >rot roh !!! I think they came on strong at the end of the season. You know, >some of my best friends are Texans... too bad someone's gotta' lose I suppose I should clarify my statement. I should have said 'Too bad they couldn't get a HIGHER RANKED team to play.' (I think BYU got hosed in this whole thing.) It was not my intention to degrade any team out there - I am not in any position to do that. Duke was the only Div. 1 school to go 0-11 this year. (hey, if you are going to lose, you might as well be the best at it.) So, I apologize to any Longhorn fans out there that I might have offended. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:19:47 -0000 From: Vicky Adair Subject: Melissa spotted & OH NO!!! Hi all, I thought everyone here would be interested in this..... reprinted without permission >>Teary Madonna Madonna was teary-eyed at last night's Los Angeles gala premiere of her new movie, the musical "Evita." Thousands of fans screamed as she walked down the red carpet at the Shrine Auditorium. "I feel like Cinderella," she said. "I'm just overwhelmed." Madonna's co-star, Spanish heartthrob Antonio Banderas, called the spectacle of the premiere "a circus." Adding to the circus-like atmosphere were Glenn Close, Marisa Tomei, David Hasselhoff, Paula Abdul, James Belushi and Melissa Etheridge. Andrew Lloyd-Webber, who composed the super-hit stage version of "Evita," also was there. He said he had once questioned whether Madonna could handle the role but at last night's premiere said she had proven herself. The movie opens on Christmas Day.<< Guess what a bonehead thing I did. My normal day's off are Tues Wed Thu. So to use one less day of vacation day for my concert run, I offered to work Tues. 8:00am to 7:00pm thinking that the SF show was on Wed and the Sac. show was on Thu. A friend of mine just corrected me and boy do I feel stupid!!!! ;( Now my girlfriend is wondering who she is going to take instead of me. HA!! Where there's a will there's a way. I WILL be there!!! See you all there. Merry Christmas!! Vicky Lynn Adair [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:17:43 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: MLE interview in Chronicle Can someone re-post the URL of the interview with Melissa in the San Francisco Chronicle that was supposed to run today? Thanks! ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 14 Dec 1996 to 15 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Mon Dec 16 19:19:11 1996 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:18:32 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 15 Dec 1996 to 16 Dec 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:14:21 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: whips and CDs (an odd combination) Deb wrote: >>Hmmm...how good *is* Tori with a whip? >>> You'll never know! >Is that a specific "you" or a general "you"? ;-) >> General. Mostly. ;-) And what does one have to do to be one of the lucky few that do get to find out? I'd offer to bring Canadian bribes on the next trip but with the buses on strike I'll be lucky to even get to the airport. >Usually a live album is from the most recent tour. >> STOP! STOP! Don't even *say* that! Sorry but facts is facts. Unless someone dies, puts out a boxset, or is trying to fulfill a contract, most likely it will be from a recent tour. >> I can't even imagine having to buy a live CD from the YLS tour! If it's released in early February, I'll buy it for you for your birthday. You have it in writing. >> OTOH, I would love to have a legit copy of that funky version of >> "Brave and Crazy" (wih the congas!) from the YIA tour (wasn't it?). I'm pretty bad with set lists. >side from each album tour would be nice. Hang on, there are 5 >albums. That's 5 sides. >> They can skip YLS, it's fresh in our memories anyway. At least those of us who weren't too inebriated or stoned to remember the show. >> I was shocked to find that Wilco's recent double CD has 36 minutes >> on one and 40 on the other That could have easily fit on one CD. Any ideas why they made it a double? Are the 2 CDs drastically different? Is one studio and one live? >> Crowded House's best-of compilation (RECURRING DREAM) has a bonus >> live CD which is 72-minutes. You just never know. Usually those bonus live CDs are 5 or 6 tracks and you still get dinged for the price of a double (or more if it's an import). >> Subject: CDs of the Year >> 1) Indigo Girls, 1200 CURFEWS. >> 2) Ani DiFranco, DILATE. >> 3) Aimee Mann, I'M WITH STUPID. >> 4) Shawn Colvin, A FEW SMALL REPAIRS. >> 5) September 67, LUCKY SHOE. What? No Melissa? Deb, I'm shocked! Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 07:43:12 +0000 From: Lis Baccigaluppi Subject: Report from Portland Well, tonight I AM going to express my admiration for Melissa. She inspires the hell out of me every time I see her in concert. It's the fact that she is so clearly loving every minute of what she does. I ask myself how many of us can say that, and I want to be able to say that for myself too. As for the concert - I can't tell you the set list, I'm terrible at that. I seem to have lost my hearing also. The concert lasted 3 hours even though I would say Melissa wasn't in her best form. She was very hoarse, I thought, and looked a little peaked (or maybe it was too much blush?) Woops, I just looked up peaked. I guess she was the opposite of peaked - her cheeks were really red, more like feverish. She forgot the words to her first song, forgot John's name - after about 5 songs she apologized and said she wanted to start over - that they were going to have to come from behind. But I'm no critic - I thought they were doing fine, except I was worried she was going to lose her voice. But she seemed to get that back too. She said how lovely Portland is (it is!!!) and that she would live here if she wasn't into this rock and roll stuff. The audience seemed very well behaved - per our current list discussion - no bras were thrown on stage that I could see - the people in the front row were suitably enthused. The people I went with complained about someone dancing in front of them (we sat in separate areas)... I personally was very happy when the people in front of me stood up. I was ready to move. At the end of "This War Is Over" - 2nd encore - she did this thing where she hung all over John and Mark (looked a bit like she was strangling John!) and then leaned over into the audience so they could fondle her. I know she's done this many times before, but I was impressed with her level of trust.... I didn't get to meet Susan and her bunch... too bad. I would have liked to, especially since the people I was with weren't exactly fans... And now I'll let you wait for the report from the Susan bunch..... Oh yeah, she also did this extended Joplinesque talk at the end of "Like the Way I Do." That was kind of cool. I hadn't seen that reported here before. Lis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 07:15:34 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Portland road trip We're baaaaack, it is only 3:15 am PST. Where did the day and the week go? Susan and I just came through the door and being the good list members that we are, are posting before sleeping :) It has been crazy all day for us. We had to start off the day sadly by dropping Maggie at the airport. I am sure she is sleeping soundly right now unlike others...But then we hit the road for Portland, OR. We had a concert to attend, hit the road! Three hours and a couple of Mountain Dews later, Susan and I showed up at Sherri and Lynn's hotel room conveniently located across the street from the concert hall. Good start at least. We traipsed up to the appointed meeting place only to find out there was something like an hour wait to get in. Hmmm, not too good. The intrepid lister Sarah grabbed us and dragged us into the sports bar next door. Man, what a zoo! (And not just because of our presence mind you!) We met up with yet more listers and their non-posting friends, partners, etc. We ended up with quite a throng (no not thong, throng!) The place was jammed with b-ball fans awaiting the start of the Trailblazers game and a local radio station was having a pre-concert bash for Melissa Etheridge. Wall to wall people. Being the marvelous strategists that we are (???), eventually we managed to take over one wall of the restaurant. I went on an adventure to pick up my MEIN tickets. Not knowing anything about the layout of the place, I spent a few minutes on a wild goose chase trying to find the box office for the coliseum. Cursing like a dock worker (no shy & demure stance for me, that wind was COLD!) I eventually ended up at the infamous Will Call window. If you thought I was cursing before, you should have heard me when I found out where MEIN had so graciously chosen to seat Susan and I. We ended up in the very last row of the floor seating. Melissa was closer to Seattle than we were to her! Regardless, it seemed as if Melissa and the band were not quite all there tonight. She seemed a little distracted at first but eventually settled down to rock the house. Fashion report....black t-shirt (oh, did I surprise anyone with that?), black vinyl shiny pants, docs, and.....a black, sorta shiny overshirt. NO denim! I guess she decided to get all gussied up for the evening :) Since Susan and I were sitting next to the small stage, we were hoping to catch prime spots for the set back there. No, no, that couldn't possibly be our luck tonight. The security folks brought out those awful metal barriers and practically pinned us in our seats (until Susan challenged the one gentlemen to try and make her go back to her seat). We saw quite a contingent of MEListers across from us, bellied up to the stage gyrating with their light bright thingies. They made their presence known! Melissa walked right past us to get on the stage, but they never moved the barriers so we were kept at a distance on our side. Melissa did manage to make us feel part of the show with her presence on our side for a couple of the songs. Shiny pants and all, she still knows how to strut her stuff! Susan and I had the pleasure of seeing REAL Security in action. They were being particularly strict with cameras this evening, going out into the crowd and actually confiscating the film from a couple of people. Then the guys came back and trully enjoyed smashing the film canisters, then playing with the film. Whatever floats your boat I guess. I did, however, have some fun kidding around with Kenny. He was goofing around (as he usually does), since Melissa was on the opposite side blocked by Mark, I caught the shennanigans and started laughing. I guess that just egged him on because Kenny started making faces at me while I got goofy right back at him. (Hey, I had to find some way to fill the time until Melissa pranced into my field of view again!) All in all, I think the Seattle show was the better of the two but that is my own take on things. Afterwards, Susan and I stopped back at the hotel (to talk for heavens sake) with Sherri and Lynn before hitting the road. That drive is a killer in the dark, but somehow we managed to gab enough between Melissa songs to pass the time. Susan here now. I agree with Sue. The Portland show was good but Tacoma was better. She played a little longer & seemed to talk to the crowd more. She did get on the edge of the stage & get down where the front crowd could touch her, but in Tacoma she also held onto Shank's arm & layed herself down backwards into the crowd too. She didn't do that tonight. I was disappointed we couldn't get right up to the back stage, but we were pretty close & I was happy with the view. The play back & forth between Sue & Kenny was hilarious. He made this one face at her that just had me busting up! Well...tomorrow I take Sue to the airport. I kind of feel like one of those runners with the Olympic torch. I'm passing her off to the California crowd to take care of now. I'll miss the duty!! This last 4 days has been some of the best times I've ever had. OK...so I'm not counting the part where my Jeep got wrecked or the long wait in the Emergency Room. It truly has been a pleasure having Sue & Maggie stay with me & meeting everyone else. I've got some opportunities now to do a little traveling of my own in the future so I can hook up with some new out of state friends, and I've also met some great local people I hope to keep in touch with & do some more things with. To anyone wondering about hooking up with listers in the future, I tell you that you must. It's the best group of people I've met anywhere! I'll give the keyboard back to Sue in case she has any closing comments. That is if I can tear her away from her "Glow in the Dark Tickle Ring" They were available in the bathroom at the truck stop we hit in Kalama WA. I just couldn't resist buying her one. And such a bargain at only 75 cents! Oh my, there she goes spending her hard earned cash again. What am I going to do with her. This isn't fair, meeting MEListers is always such a treat...the time passed much too quickly. Yup, I'm heading south into no computer land for a week or so, I'll have to keep in touch with Shirl and Patti for updates. Everyone should try and stop in on Seattle some time. Susan has treated me to everything from a tattoo parlor to the Wild Rose...never enough. We are outta' here! Susan & Sue (missing Maggie) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:41:19 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Melissa excitement I have been drowning in work for months... I am seriously behind in all my correspondence (and my music listening, tape trades, etc), but I'm briefly crawling out of my cave because Melissa's show in San Francisco this Tuesday has me unusually excited. I have been watching Melissa perform live for the last 8 years. Like Francie Trout, my initial exposure to Melissa was in '88 when I worked at a local radio station (James Gabbert's KOFY-FM) and Melissa's BMSW was in 'hot' rotation... I was awestruck with her voice, her power, and the song itself... I was so impressed with that song I was willing to buy the album regardless of how the other songs sounded... that October I saw her play Boz Scaggs' club (SLIM's) and the memory of that show still gives me goosebumps. A word of explanation... a musician can touch me in many ways, from a cerebral connection with their musical sense (eg, Jami Sieber, who who plays her electric cello with unmatched passion), to deep lyrical connections (too many to name), to a visceral connection with their voice or stage-presence (eg. Janis Joplin, Melissa Etheridge, Melissa Ferrick, Joni Mitchell, Ani DiFranco, Amanda Marshall, Nina Simone, Marianne Faithfull), but the final acid test for me has always been "do they give me goosebumps?"... if they do, I know they have touched me deeply. Sometimes even the *memory* of a show can give me goosebumps, like the memories of early small-venue Melissa, or memories of our list-members Mardi and Rose (from Perth... formerly Sistablue, now The Velvet Janes) who visited us 10 days last April (I'm still not fully recovered ). Like our newly delurked Bay Area lister, Vicky Adair, I have seen Melissa every time she's played the Bay Area (as of 1988, though she played here before then in women's clubs, including Sisterspirit in San Jose). Most of those shows were when she still had Kevin and Fritz backing her and my first four shows were in venues of 200-400 capacity . I continued to attend every show, and my first 'big' venue was during her first YIA tour when she played the San Jose Event Center (it was also the first show without Kevin). Thinking back across all those years, I realized that one of the things I most enjoyed about her shows has always been her audience... many of my closest friends are people I've met at her shows. and since joining *this* corner of cyberspace I have met many more wonderful people. Last Oct 14, Kelly Conroy shared with us the joy she had bonding with other Melissa fans: >I've never felt more comfortable as I do at Melissa's concerts >and especially at my first gathering. I agree! I've mentioned this on the list before... I love her fans! I'm looking forward to seeing all of "Bay Area Bunch" on Tuesday (we're now nearly 30 strong), as well as meeting several list-members who are following her west coast tour. John Miller - who is *finally* leaving work to go home... at 4:45am San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:40:13 -0500 From: CJ Subject: Re: Guitar Varnishes I suggest not only contacting a guitar manufacturer, but THE guitar manufacturer. Kaman Music handles Ovation Guitars. They are online and have a service area available at: http://www.kamanmusic.com/ovation/ They might even know what kind of pen Melissa is using to sign those (I think) Celebrities. CJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:34:23 -0500 From: Dan Cohen <[email protected]> Subject: Texas 3-concert tour: a month later I'm posting this to the MEList because it really happened to me, and because obsession is really a part of Melissa Etheridge scene. When I went on the Texas 3-concert MEIN Tour last month, my purpose was to live an obsession with Melissa Etheridge that started at the Darien Lake concert. I needed more Melissa. And I knew, when I get home, that I'd have to get out of the obsession somehow. On the Texas tour with 35 other Melissa-crazed obsessives, I was living the obsession, a primal need to tour with Melissa for a while, to be a groupie. I was immersed in Melissa. Phew! she's a powerful package. I loved the experience. Then I came back home. Must it end? I have enough money to catch the California 2-concert Tour (the big one!). Plus I have met Sue D and Patti Fink personally, so I can put faces (and bodies) to the stories they are posting now. Do I have to quit "cold turkey"? Obsession with Melissa is multi-dimensional. It's the nature of Melissa -- I like her music + lyrics + concerts + band + lifestyle + philosopy + body + Julie -- a powerful "package". I knew, to leave the obsession behind me, that I'd have to settle with each of these aspects, somehow. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Here's how I'm withdrawing from the obsession with Melissa: Some of you MEListers are writing concert reports, as the YLS tour continues, so I can see that concert life does go on. I'd rather be there, but it's good to see that other fans are having fun. So withdrawal from concerts is not very painful. On my home-office wall, I have a poster of Melissa in a dramatic pose with a guitar and a yell. Also my MLE songbooks have neat pix of MLE for me. I am obsessed with Melissa's tunes and lyrics and voice. But I have to get over it somehow. So I'm exploring the club scene in Toronto, in search of other music. Any live rock or blues will do to divert my energy to local talent, instead of just MLE. Last night I saw a funky blues band, and I feel a lot better. This makes up for last Sunday, the band at the Deli/Rock played "Like the Way I Do" and started the feelings churning. I'm learning electric guitar (I'm still at 1st-year level). I stopped practicing to attend the Melissa concerts in Darien Lake, Toledo, Austin, Dallas, and Houston. I can't handle the emotional energy of the concerts, plus practice music, too. Now, a month after Texas, I've finally picked up practicing again. I hope I can team up with a blues garage band this winter. On the Texas 3-concert tour, I met some wonderful people. I've written to some, and maybe 1 or 2 of these tour friends may become pen-pals. You never can tell. The last issue I must deal with is: philosophy. Melissa says "Be strong. Speak true." Well, actually, I have a problem with this, and I'm working on it now. I'll tell you about it, if you ask me. Melissa really does affect my life. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- That's how I'm withdrawing from the obsession with Melissa. The obsession has been fun, even delicious, and has enriched my life. The recovery is partly fun, and interesting, and is also enriching my life. I could never say "Been there, done that"; that's too simple. The emotional legacy stays with me -- when I think of the concerts, and my tour friends, my heart skips, I catch my breath, and I smile. Then I carry on. It's like a "loss of innocence" -- I'm no longer a virgin. -- Dan Cohen in Toronto [email protected] http://www.canscape.com/dancohen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:57:38 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: Re: Doing Seattle right! Hey Sue D., congrats on the guitar and pick! You are having quite a time out there Sue. I think you really deserve it the way you've been traveling around this year and all.....hey about a standing "ovation" for the lil' lady! I'm glad to hear that everyone is basically ok after the accident and that it didn't stop you from seeing Melissa. What true fans you are. That's it from me.....have a good Monday. Kare, who can't wait to get to Florida to see her pun pal Michelle. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:44:02 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: The Best Thing My Jen gave me a book of women's Victorian-age poetry for our anniversary (today) and I came across a wonderful poem by one of my favorite poets that I thought I would share: The Best Thing In the World What's the best thing in the world? June-rose, by May-dew impearled; Sweet south-wind, that means no rain; Truth, not cruel to a friend; Pleasure, not in haste to end; Beauty, not self-decked and curled Till its pride is over-plain; Light, that never makes you wink; Memory, that gives no pain; Love, when, so, you're loved again. What's the best thing in the world? --Something out of it, I think. by Elizabeth Barrett Browning Gwen (who baked cookies for eight hours yesterday and wants to know who else loves Snickerdoodles) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:26:34 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: rude audiences, cds Michelle wrote: >>all the escalators in the mall. The child's parents then taught the >>child the appropriate way to handle making mistakes & facing up to what >>you've done. They ran like hell! > >You just know that these children will grow up to be the same people who >act rudely at concerts. LOL!!! You know, it's intersting that I've never really encountered much rude behavior at any concert I've been to. I guess Knoxville TN audiences must be the most well behaved of all audiences. Which is funny, considering all the rednecks here... ;) Deb wrote: >>But then again, a >>side from each album tour would be nice. Hang on, there are 5 albums. >>That's 5 sides. > >They can skip YLS, it's fresh in our memories anyway. But not all of us got a chance to see her on her latest tour (or her other tours for that matter). >Well, it's that time of year again... time to reflect on the many CDs >you've purchased, and separate the wheat from the chaff... here's my best >of list: > >1) Indigo Girls, 1200 CURFEWS. An amazing live double-CD, an obvious >labor of love. Includes many songs not found on their CDs, and comments >in the liner notes from each of the Girls describing the songs or the shows >they came from. :) Love that one! Let's see -- of the cds and tapes I've bought this year, I guess my favorites are: Tori Amos "Boys For Pele" (and "Under The Pink" and "Little Earthquakes" -- I just got into her this year) -- one word: WOW!!! R.E.M. "New Adventures In Hi-Fi" -- perhaps their best album yet. Sarah McLachlan "Fumbling Towards Ecstasy" -- not a new release -- again, I've just got into her this year. Words can't describe what this album means to me... Sheryl Crow "Sheryl Crow" -- simply amazing! Other notable purchases were: Patti Rothberg "Between The 1 And The 9" Lisa Loeb and Nine Stories "Tails" K's Choice "Paradise In Me" Aaron :) "In more than words I tried to tell you The more I tried, I failed" --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:49:36 -0800 From: Jacky Abromitis Subject: NMEC: "super stores" killing feminist/lesbigay businesses & indep. record stores Food for thought before you do anymore shopping: (from another list): I just found out today that Dreams & Swords, one of the few local feminist/LesBiGay bookstores (and one of the largest in the midwest) , will beclosing on May 31 due to financial difficulties. These financial problems are due mainly to competition from the giant superstores such as Border's, Barnes & Noble, etc. While these stores may be able to offer lower prices, they do so by buying in huge quantities from large publishers. When it is no longer "trendy" or profitable to feature feminist, LesBiGay, African-American, etc., literature, these big chains, which have no loyalty to the customer or community, but only to their shareholders, will stop carrying it. After the small specialty bookstores have been driven out of business, the small publishers which publish this literature will be forced to close. This means that eventually, the availability of non-mainstream literature will be greatly reduced and limited to only those few titles which remain profitable for large publishers and booksellers. This alarming trend, which has been documented for the past several years as the chain bookstores have expanded and taken over the country, has become a form of censorship. While it may not be their intention, competition from the chains is, in effect, permanenently silencing the voices of some of our "minority" communities and authors. --- This applies to the small independently owned music stores, too, who are taking a beating from the giant chain stores like Borders, etc. Jacky http://www.world2u.com/~thunder ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:55:47 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: SAN FRAN listers meet Melissa is playing San Francisco's Cow Palace tomorrow, 17 Dec at 7:30pm. This is an open invitation to all the San Francisco Bay Area list-members. I know there are at least 27 in the Bay Area because that's how many local listers receive our weekly BAB newsletter... and there are more who delurked this week (big 'Hi' to Jennifer and Vicky), but I *know* there are more of you out there! I have met almost all of you (and I've spent a *lot* of fun time with a few of you... you know who you are ), but I'm looking forward to meeting a few more so I can put a face with the name (Yvette, Teresa, AJ, Dione, Donna, Eve, Jean, Leigh, Roxanne)... So for all you Bay Area listers, this is a call to meet at Tuesday's show... most of us will be wearing our purple ME-list bowling shirts, and I'm not too hard to recognize... 5'11", short dark-but-graying hair, gold wire-rim glasses, clean-shaven... and I'll be in my usual costume: black leather biker-jacket, black pants, black leather combat boots, and my purple ME-list bowling shirt. I will be there very early... since all seats are reserved, I would normally suggest we meet before the show near the merchandize table, but there is a small chance I will be allowed to go backstage before the show (I've got my fingers crossed!), so I won't have much time to hang around the lobby before the show... Perhaps we can meet during intermission near the merchandize booth. ---- weekend plans ---- If you are *not* already on my weekly newsletter distribution list, you're going to miss hearing about plans to meet 'shy demure' Shirl from Pennsylvania, Chicago's head-butting champ, the Lone Wrangler, (aka Patty Wilcox), and that woman with the amazing luck (and her own Melissa-model Ovation) Sue Deyoung... they're going to be staying here over the weekend and we have *big* plans to show them the Bay Area. So if you're in the Bay Area, send me your email address so you can meet the Melissa-list 'Bay Area Bunch' and our visiting friends. John Miller - who is anxiously awaiting guest-list confirmation! San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:08:04 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: "super stores" killing feminist/lesbigay-Reply Jacky wrote: Food for thought before you do anymore shopping: (from another list): I just found out today that Dreams & Swords, one of the few local feminist/LesBiGay bookstores (and one of the largest in the midwest) , will beclosing on May 31 due to financial difficulties. These financial problems are due mainly to competition from the giant superstores such as Border's, Barnes & Noble, etc. ******************************************************************************** ******* I know what you mean, I was in Charlotte, NC last week and there's a Book store "Rising Moon" who is just keeping a float. There are some business' down the street who just started caring the same type of books and things. Fortunately for her, she was able to find another location to rent (that's alot less expensive). Remember, If we don't support our small Book Stores they will go out of business, then we will be left out in the cold. Thanks for the insight... Sonya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:08:39 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re: superstores (NMEC) Jacky Abromitis just wrote about 'superstores' and the financial pressures on small independent book/music stores: >After the small specialty bookstores have been driven out of business, >the small publishers which publish this literature will be forced to >close. This means that eventually, the availability of non-mainstream >literature will be greatly reduced and limited to only those few titles >which remain profitable for large publishers and booksellers. Thank you for the reminder, Jacky. I am most familiar with this issue in the U.S. and Canada, as those are the two countries where I've lived most of my life, but I have found the same problem when visiting other countries... the large corporate-owned businesses with massive buying power can have serious influence of what is available to purchase... independent non-mainstream sources are being squeezed by financial advantages available only from economies-of-scale. If one does not know any independent local music/book stores, try contacting the student association at a local college, as they will often know about local non-mainstream sources... there are also some mail-order or web-based sources. For the music-lovers here: If you cannot find a local independent source of music-by-women (which in some regions includes some prominent women artists), you can always contact LadySlipper, the best single source I know for music-by-women: phone: 919/383-8773 - or - http://www.ladyslipper.org Ladyslipper's catalog is a veritable reference library of music-by-women, and they will ship anywhere. For those who are trying to find women-centered services in the US and Canada, try Deb's web-page at: http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/ She has numerous links for LesBiGay issues for women, including: http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/glb.html#Women She links to this URL which lists women's bookstores in Canada and the US: http://www.igc.apc.org/women/bookstores/ John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:18:14 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Melissa on SF radio For those living in the San Francisco Bay Area, KFOG-FM (104.5 or 97.7) will broadcast 'part' of Melissa's Tuesday night show at the Cow Palace. Her show starts at 7:30pm, and KFOG's broadcast will start "sometime after 8:00pm". I have no idea how long they will broadcast, but I will have my tape deck's timer set. John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:20:49 -0800 From: Jacky Abromitis Subject: NMEC: bookstores I posted this not long ago, but I'd like to remind anyone looking for a feminist or lesbian bookstore in their area to email me. I'd be happy to look it up for you. I own a lesbian mail order book business. It breaks my heart to see ANY small business go bankrupt. I'll do whatever I can to point people in the direction of their nearest feminist bookseller (I have a list from an organization I belong to). It's imperative that we all help each other, support each other, and patronize (matronize?) each others' businesses. -- Jacky http://www.world2u.com/~thunder ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:21:53 -0000 From: Vicky Adair Subject: BAB Party Shirl wrote.. >Hey John would a party monday evening Dec 23rd work for you and the >rest of the BAB? I know that I, SueD and Patty will all be around on >that evening. I am looking forward to meeting some of the listers, and I still have not heard any plans for meeting anywhere in the Bay Area. Tomorrow (Tues. 17 around 4:00pm) is the last time I will have access to my E-mail until after the Melissa shows (well, maybe I can get internet access in LA) So somebody PLEASE let me know where the party/meeting places are. **Happy Holidays** Vicky [email protected] P.S. A friend of mine is trying to find two tickets for Sac. or SF, if anyone knows of any for sale, PLEASE let me know. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:23:22 -0500 From: Deb Subject: CDs of the Year Oops! Someone (and only one, I'm surprised!), pointed out that 1200 CURFEWS was released in late '95, and therefore is ineligible for consideration. :( That's what I get for trusting my CD database. :) So... bump all of the others up a notch, and put Rosanne Cash's 10 SONG DEMO at #5... Technically, I've had Aimee Mann since late '95 too, but the domestic version didn't come out until January, so I'm safe on that one. :) Just shows how much I think of those releases that they're still at the top of my list... -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-15 14:23 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------ Well, it's that time of year again... time to reflect on the many CDs you've purchased, and separate the wheat from the chaff... here's my best of list: 1) Indigo Girls, 1200 CURFEWS. An amazing live double-CD, an obvious labor of love. Includes many songs not found on their CDs, and comments in the liner notes from each of the Girls describing the songs or the shows they came from. 2) Ani DiFranco, DILATE. This one's a bit of a departure for Ani, with industrial and hip-hop influences among others, but no less brilliant for it. The lyrics are as amazing as ever, and the music alternately rocks hard and swings mellow. 3) Aimee Mann, I'M WITH STUPID. Aimee's one of the best pop songwriters ever. See her in my artist spotlight at http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo/music.html for more info. 4) Shawn Colvin, A FEW SMALL REPAIRS. Long-awaited return to recording her own songs, and well worth the wait. Some of her best songs are here. 5) September 67, LUCKY SHOE. Shannon Worrell and Kristin Asbury are local (Charlottesville, VA) artists made good. With backers like Dave Matthews and David Lowery (Cracker), they've finally got this major label release out. Worrell's vocals may remind you of Shawn Colvin, and the harmonies with Kristin are to die for. Quirky electric guitars, unique rhythms, and great songs differentiate this from other folk-rock fare. If you're intrigued, search for these on my Web site (I don't have Sept 67 there yet) or at http://cdnow.com and give them a listen. -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-15 14:23 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I see the same shit every day/ the landscape looks so bleak/ I think I'll take the first one of you home/ that does something unique." - Ani DiFranco, "Face Up and Sing" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:08:19 GMT From: Maggie at avalon Subject: Re: Portland road trip It's Maggie here. I managed to somehow escape Seattle un-tattooed, despite the best efforts of Susan and Sue, and I'm back at work after one of the best weekends of my life. Sue D, writing from Susan's account, wrote: >We're baaaaack, it is only 3:15 am PST. Where did the day and the week go? > Susan and I just came through the door and being the good list members that >we are, are posting before sleeping :) > >It has been crazy all day for us. We had to start off the day sadly by >dropping Maggie at the airport. :{ > I am sure she is sleeping soundly right now >unlike others... ooooh. Got that right. (Although I did kind of expect to hear that phone ring at some ungodly hour this morning. Susan, you're slipping. ;) ) The plane, of course, was on time for my return trip, when I would have prefered it to be late. Susan and Sue got me to the airport with just a few minutes to spare, and after an all-too-hurried goodbye, I got my hung-over carcass to the gate just as the flight was boarding. Of couse, my mediocre luck in the seat-assignment department continued on the plane, as I was given 31-F. If you're familiar with the seating arrangement on an MD-80, you'd know that it put me about a foot away from the jet engine. 8-{ So much for sleeping it off. But luckily we caught a powerful jet stream, and the plane arrived early, and the rest of my trip went quite smoothly. I got home probably just as all you lucky Portland concert go-ers were getting your first glimpse of MLE, and crawled into bed for a looooong sleep. >Regardless, it seemed as if Melissa and the band were not quite all there >tonight. She seemed a little distracted at first but eventually settled down >to rock the house. This doesn't surprise me. Considering that there was an MLE sighting in LA on Saturday night, and that she had to fly down there, and fly back up, I bet she was the one person there who had less sleep than Susan and Sue. > Fashion report....black t-shirt (oh, did I surprise >anyone with that?), black vinyl shiny pants, docs, and.....a black, sorta >shiny overshirt. NO denim! I guess she decided to get all gussied up for >the evening :) But what about the, um, seams? :) >Since Susan and I were sitting next to the small stage, we were hoping to >catch prime spots for the set back there. No, no, that couldn't possibly be >our luck tonight. The security folks brought out those awful metal barriers >and practically pinned us in our seats (until Susan challenged the one >gentlemen to try and make her go back to her seat). LOL! Having now seen Susan in action, in person, I know that the security guard was destined to lose this one! :) I hope you got fairly close, though. It *was* your "mission" in Portland, after all. >I did, however, have some fun kidding around with Kenny. He was goofing >around (as he usually does), since Melissa was on the opposite side blocked >by Mark, I caught the shennanigans and started laughing. I guess that just >egged him on because Kenny started making faces at me while I got goofy right >back at him. (Hey, I had to find some way to fill the time until Melissa >pranced into my field of view again!) But did he give Sue the drums when they finished? Susan wrote, >Well...tomorrow I >take Sue to the airport. I kind of feel like one of those runners with the >Olympic torch. I'm passing her off to the California crowd to take care of >now. I'll miss the duty!! This last 4 days has been some of the best times >I've ever had. OK...so I'm not counting the part where my Jeep got wrecked or >the long wait in the Emergency Room. It truly has been a pleasure having Sue >& Maggie stay with me & meeting everyone else. It was a fantastic weekend for me too (Jeep accident aside - not that it was really bad, but because it put just a little crimp in things - mostly in Susan's neck, tailgate and spare tire...) Susan was a great host. I'm so glad I got a chance to get to know Susan and Sue, meet so many more listers in person, and see a great concert. > I've got some opportunities >now to do a little traveling of my own in the future so I can hook up with >some new out of state friends, And I hope that your path crosses mine when you do. :) > To anyone wondering >about hooking up with listers in the future, I tell you that you must. It's >the best group of people I've met anywhere! Ditto! >I'll give the keyboard back to >Sue in case she has any closing comments. That is if I can tear her away from >her "Glow in the Dark Tickle Ring" They were available in the bathroom at the >truck stop we hit in Kalama WA. I just couldn't resist buying her one. And >such a bargain at only 75 cents! Look what things degenerate into when I leave. Nothing this decadent would have happened if I was still there. Really. Missing Seattle, and everyone I met there already, Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:18:53 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: SF Melissa tickets Vicky Adair wrote: >P.S. A friend of mine is trying to find two tickets for Sac. or SF, if anyone >knows of any for sale, PLEASE let me know. Gosh! Are they sold out??? The following are the only extra tickets I know about... all sold at cost. 1. I might have two tickets (from MEIN) if I get on the guest-list, and I'm being told there is a good chance I'll get on it, so *my* tickets from MEIN might be available. I'll probably know for sure by tonight, or tomorrow morning at the latest. TWO 'preferred' seat tickets from MEIN .......... $97.97 for the pair 2. TWO Ticketmaster seats Sec 13, Row E, Seats 5/6.. $48 (approx) _EACH_ If interested, email Susan Budjako at 3. ONE extra ticket from Ticketmaster............... $48 (approx) If interested, contact Jennifer John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:18:52 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re[2]: BAB Party Vicky Adair wrote: >Shirl wrote.. > >>Hey John would a party monday evening Dec 23rd work for you and the rest of >the BAB? I know that I, SueD and Patty will all be around on that evening. > >I am looking forward to meeting some of the listers, and I still have not >heard any plans for meeting anywhere in the Bay Area. I will be publishing plans for the weekend in our weekly BAB newsletter which will probably go out Thursday... it includes my phone numbers for home/work/pager, so we can connect when we're away from email. I expect to meet Shirl at the airport Saturday night, and she's staying Sunday and Monday. Sue Deyoung and Patty Wilcox will also be here, so we're hoping for at least two nights of fun (Sunday/Monday). Shirl has suggested a live music event Sunday at Jack London square, and I expect we'll find more to do that night ... Monday plans are not firm, but I'm being convinced to have a party at my San Jose apartment, or we can do a BAB-dinner in the CASTRO so the north bay/east bay folks have an easier chance to meet... more info when I know it. If you are a Bay Area list-member and you are *not* on the distribution for the BAB-newsletter, contact me via private email *now* so I can add your name to the list... that's where we'll discuss party plans. Vicky, I've already sent you some additional info via private email. John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 15 Dec 1996 to 16 Dec 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Tue Dec 17 00:00:47 1996 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:00:09 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 16 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:34:00 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Melissa excitement John, You must have been at the show at the Warfield in September, 1992 on the NE tour! I was in SF at the time. I won the Eric Clapton JVC contest. We (my friend Esther and I) saw Clapton at The Shoreline Ampitheater on Friday night. Then on Saturday night, Melissa played the Warfield, around the corner form the Park 55 where we were staying. We walked to the concert and I do remember a cool breeze blowing from the east bay that night! That had to be THE BEST Melissa concert I ever saw, along with the one at the Mann Music Center here in Philly in the summer of '94...just 3 days before Woodstock '94! I remember KOFY. What format are they now? And do you still work in radio? Once a workaholic, always one! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:21:15 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: ME's Religious Convictions > Melissa has, in fact, on > numerous occasions stated that she has her own spirituality and feels happy > and blessed with that. So why would you want to shove your own beliefs onto > her? IMHO, *exactly*!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 20:20:09 -0500 From: Lori Levy Subject: SF tickets still available Hi again, I still have 2 tickets available for Tuesday's SF show... Sec 13, Row L, seats 1&2. I am pretty desperate to get rid of them, so I would even consider selling them for below face value... What a deal! Please e-mail me at [email protected] if you're interested. I have an Atlanta e-mail address, but I am currently in SF, so I would be happy to get these to you in person somehow. Thanks! Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:36:16 -0800 From: Andrea Tan Subject: How to recognize John Miller...aka Mapboy, John Juan DeMiller, EvilCookieMaker, etc... MapBoy dug himself out of the pit of work and wrote: >and I'm not too hard to recognize... 5'11", short dark-but-graying hair, >gold wire-rim glasses, clean-shaven... and I'll be in my usual costume: >black leather biker-jacket, black pants, black leather combat boots, and >my purple ME-list bowling shirt. John, John, John, you're making this too easy for me! You forget that the easiest way to spot you is to look for the above described guy SURROUNDED BY WOMEN!!! And a black day pack...? I'll look for you guys at the merchandise table...dunno what I'll be wearing but John's a good beacon to look for...=) Sorry I'm going to miss most of the BAB visitor's...I'll be heading east again (waving to Jacky...is that with an "ie" or a "y" ) but my first stop'll be lovely Columbus, Ohio...oh, be still my beating heart. Hope to see you all tomorrow...if not, have a great time and I'll catch up with you guys later! =) Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 20:52:06 -0800 From: Jacky Abromitis Subject: SMEC: Andrea heads east; Westbury anniversary Andrea Tan wrote: > I'll be heading east again (waving to Jacky) Andrea was out here this time last year for the Westbury show: Melissa, Sarah McLaughlin, Dion Ferris, Tom Cochran, Del Amitri. I can't believe it's been a year...at least there is no snow on the ground or in the forecast...unlike the 2 feet that dumped on all us of in time for that show last year. Have a safe trip, and call if you have some free time! (Thanks for the auction web-site; definitely worthwhile!) -- Jacky http://www.world2u.com/~thunder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:04:55 GMT From: Maggie at avalon Subject: Re: NMEC: "super stores" killing feminist/lesbigay businesses & indep. record stores Back from seattle, and crawling up on my soapbox to play "devils advocate"... >Food for thought before you do anymore shopping: > >(from another list): >I just found out today that Dreams & Swords, one of the few local >feminist/LesBiGay bookstores (and one of the largest in the midwest) , >will beclosing on May 31 due to financial difficulties. These financial >problems are due mainly to competition from the giant superstores such >as Border's, Barnes & Noble, etc. > >While these stores may be able to offer lower prices, they do so by >buying in huge quantities from large publishers. When it is no longer >"trendy" or profitable to feature feminist, LesBiGay, African-American, >etc., literature, these big chains, which have no loyalty to the >customer or community, but only to their shareholders, will stop >carrying it. I wouldn't dare argue that these big chains are all-benevolent, or that they do not engage in the kind of predatory pricing strategies that they're accused of, but I also think that there are some points to be made in their defense that can be summed up as 1 - competition on selection/quality as well as price, and 2 - the markets that bookstores serve. In other words, the big chains aren't necessarily evil... First, there are a *lot* of areas that would not be served at all if it wasn't for these chains. I grew up in a neighborhood with few bookstores (all chain stores), and certainly none with a selection of specialty books. This void was filled a couple of years ago when Borders opened a store there. Now people in that area have someplace to find a decent, if limited, selection of books on women's studies, LesBiGay, minority studies, politics, etc. It's not great, but it's much better than before. I'm sure that this store has a huge impact on other book and music sellers in the area, but there weren't any specialty stores in the first place, and in this location, at least they are winning the competition on selection as well as price. They are satisfying a relatively small demand that went unfilled. A smaller, independent bookseller most likely not be able to survive in this location, simply because there isn't enough demand in that area for a specialty bookseller. A place like Border's works here because the volume on the more popular, heavily discounted books, in the case of this Border's, is subsidizing the selection of the minimally-discounted specialty books. And on the general interest books, this store's competition is places like Crown, B Dalton, etc, not specialty stores. >After the small specialty bookstores have been driven out of business, >the small publishers which publish this literature will be forced to >close. This means that eventually, the availability of non-mainstream >literature will be greatly reduced and limited to only those few titles >which remain profitable for large publishers and booksellers. What really bothers me about this argument, is that most of these specialty stores are/were in large, urban areas. I suspect (and it's more from personal experience than hard data, admittedly) that the stores that are *really* getting driven into oblivion by the chains are the small general booksellers, and also the smaller, poorly managed chains. While I'm bothered by the disappearance of the small general bookseller, this is a trend that started years ago, is not restricted to booksellers, and as with so many other large-volume franchises, is to some extent, inevitable. The process has already gone so far that at this point we're dealing with competing chains. Some chains are better than others, and price is not always the issue. Many of the Border's I've seen (with the exception of the original Ann Arbor store - there it's the big campus academic bookstore) have catered to an untapped market, or to a market previously serviced by big chains with similar prices but worse selection. No doubt they've also driven out more than a few small booksellers in other areas, but these other consequences, IMNSHO are positive. >This alarming trend, which has been documented for the past several >years as the chain bookstores have expanded and taken over the country, >has become a form of censorship. While it may not be their intention, >competition from the chains is, in effect, permanenently silencing the >voices of some of our "minority" communities and authors. Yes, the market DOES dictate much of what we see, hear and read. This is not new. The question is, does the current trend towards chain bookstores aggravate that? I don't think it's all that clear. And the same thing has been said about the record (oops, I mean CD...dating myself) industry, restaurants, grocery stores, etc for years. All of these have been taken over by chains. And in some ways, selection has been limited. In other places, it has gotten better. But specialty grocers, music stores, etc, still survive in many places. This is because stores *don't* just compete on price. They also compete on selection, which is why Borders has found success in a market already glutted by book discounters. If Borders doesn't satisfy the demand for selection, there will be at least some pressure/opportunity for someone else to do so. I think that the real fear that a lot of people have is that books will be subject to the same treatment that Walmart gives records. Walmart won't sell many records because corporate management finds the content objectionable. Some artists/labels alter the content or packaging rather than lose Walmart sales, which account for about 1/5 of records sold in the US. But *why* are 1/5 of records sold in the US bought at Walmart? Because NOBODY ELSE serves those markets. The assumption in this argument is that Walmart pushed out the competition. Another take on the situation is that those areas, mostly in rural areas, never had viable record stores in the first place. I'm not thrilled with Walmart's philosphy, but they *do* have the right to choose what to sell and what not to sell in their stores. And artists/labels have the choice of whether or not to cater to Walmart. Some do, some don't, and it all comes down to whether or not they want to lose those sales. The assumption that smaller bookstores can't exercise censorship is not really accurate either. They don't have as much power to dictate what publishers produce, but almost certainly each store exercises some power over their own stock. And in some areas, that means censorship. If the only bookseller in town doesn't carry X, you can't get X. That's true for areas serviced by small independent stores, as well as those where Walmart is the only supplier in town. I suspect that independent bookstores, like many other small stores, survive if they find a niche. While the corner mom-and-pop bookstore that tries to carry a little of everything may be a thing of the past, specialty stores will survive. While I like Border's, if I really want a *good* selection of women's studies, I'll go to a feminist bookstore, academic books, a good university bookstore, etc. These types of stores have usually only thrived in markets big enough to sustain them anyway, not in areas most vulnerable to the Walmart-imposed censorship. As far as production goes, I'm skeptical about that as well. Look at the success of the indie record market. That success is in spite of the chains which won't/don't carry them. And after years of ignoring minor labels many of the Musiclands, Sam Goody's, and Towers are *just beginning* to carry a few indies. In the meantime, in places like SF, Chicago, and lots of other more urban areas, there are still plenty of specialty record stores to be found. Furthermore, mail-order music businesses catering to specialty tastes seem to be sprouting up all over. Look at the success of Ani Difranco, built mostly on mail order sales. Book production and distribution, like cd production and distribution, is a business with relatively low start-up costs. And these costs have been decreasing in recent years as technology has changed. As long as there is demand for specialty books, and no *legal* restrictions interfering with their production and distribution, I suspect that we'll be able to get them by mail-order, if by no other means. *whew* Maggie (who really isn't the rabidly conservative free-market economist implied by the above post, by *any* stretch of the imagination...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:24:07 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re[2]: Melissa excitement Francie Trout replied to my 'excitement' post: >You must have been at the show at the Warfield in September, 1992 >on the NE tour! Yes, I was fully obsessed with her by then... it was my 5th Melissa show in the Bay Area and I was already lamenting how *big* the venues had become . For those unfamiliar with local venues, the Warfield is one of the best medium-sized Bay Area venues (I refuse to call it small, but most people do since it only holds 2500)... sound is excellent and sight lines are remarkable because of the steeply raked balcony seats, or you can dance on the main floor... perfect for whatever style 'fan' you want to be. I think SusanB and Catherine were also there that night. Francie continued: >I was in SF at the time. I won the Eric Clapton JVC contest. We (my >friend Esther and I) saw Clapton at The Shoreline Ampitheater on Friday >night. If Clapton was there, I'm guessing you probably walked past Rhondda at the Shoreline ... I first saw Clapton with John Mayall (*that* was a long time ago), and later with Cream... what guitar technique! >That had to be THE BEST Melissa concert I ever saw, along with the one >at the Mann Music Center here in Philly in the summer of '94. YES! It was a wonderful show, but it's nothing like standing four feet in front of her in a crowded-but-very-friendly bar with 200 other fans. This show was the first time she showed us how well 'packaged' she could make her show, with seque after seamless seque... the band was tight! That night she closed with a cover of 'Let's Get It On'..... WHOO! The memory of her singing that song just brought a rush of goosebumps . The only sour note to the show was that it was being sponsored by KOME, a San Jose hard-rock station which played to the 17-year-old male who was suffering from testosterone overload... most of those listeners did not know that Melissa's audience was mostly women, and there were some very ugly exchanges, and a few overt threats... I had to call security on several occasions. Then Francie asked a radio-biz question: >I remember KOFY. What format are they now? It was supposed to be an 'eclectic' rock station, and it *was* for a few weeks, and during evenings/overnights/weekends, but if you're familiar with the infamous James Gabbert you know he could not keep his hands off the programming. The station died several deaths... the worst was the weekend all the 'good' DJ's quit, and the tape of the last few hours of that format is one of my prize radio archives... for the next two years, the station died a slow painful death as Gabbert took all the 'unusual' songs out of the book and fiddled with the format... he inherited a phenomenal music library from the station's predecessor (KKCY, 'The City'), but he threw it all out and purchased most of his music from "HitDisc". At least he continued to play Melissa, one of the few Bay Area stations playing her at that time... but he later made the station Spanish-only, so we lost our best local rock station until KFOG got their act together. But even KFOG cannot replace the best of KOFY, or KKCY which preceded it. >And do you still work in radio? No, and KOFY was my 'second' job... I've been programming computers for 30+ years... I found radio to be one of the *strangest* businesses, and I think people would be amazed at what goes on in radio behind the scene. >Once a workaholic, always one! You got that right! John Miller - still hoping for MLE guest list confirmation! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:24:08 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re: How to recognize John Miller. My BAB-buddy Andrea Tan posted with a subject-line which read: >Subject: How to recognize John Miller...aka Mapboy, John Juan DeMiller, > EvilCookieMaker, etc... At least you kept the list short! :) I've never had so many nicknames as I have received here, and *some* of them are very misleading ... like the name Patti Fink gave me waaay back on September 18, when she wrote: >Can't believe you're so quick-on-the-draw there, Cookie Crumb Man! ;) >BTW, I think another appropriate appellation to add to your well-deserved >collection might be "Dental Dam Don".... Or "Venus De Oh-My-Oh!!" Oh fine! About the only name left out is Don Juan DeMoaner... I guess we will have to wait for Rhondda's return for that one. :) Then Andrea wrote: >MapBoy dug himself out of the pit of work and wrote: > >>and I'm not too hard to recognize... 5'11", short dark-but-graying hair, >>gold wire-rim glasses, clean-shaven... and I'll be in my usual costume: >>black leather biker-jacket, black pants, black leather combat boots, and >>my purple ME-list bowling shirt. > >John, John, John, you're making this too easy for me! You forget that >the easiest way to spot you is to look for the above described guy SURROUNDED >BY WOMEN!!! That's easy to do at a Melissa show ... but yes, out of thirty local BABsters, I am the token male....... it's such a tough life. :) >I'll look for you guys at the merchandise table...dunno what I'll be wearing >but John's a good beacon to look for...=) I will also be visiting a friend from the Ani-list (Mara) who is working this show at the Rock-Medicine booth, but most of the time I'll be at the merchandize table... see you there! John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:32:41 -0800 From: Jacky Abromitis Subject: Re: NMEC: "super stores" Maggie at avalon wrote: > > Back from seattle, and crawling up on my soapbox to play "devils advocate"...... > but I also think that there are some points to be made in their (super stores) > defense that can be summed up as ... there are a *lot* of areas that >would not be served at all if it wasn't for these chains. The *vast* majority of the stores' demographic research and marketing plans are to go into areas where the market has already been established by other stores--mostly small businesses. There intent is to steal the already established clientele. > >After the small specialty bookstores have been driven out of business, > >the small publishers which publish this literature will be forced to > >close. ... > What really bothers me about this argument, is that most of these specialty > stores are/were in large, urban areas. I suspect (and it's more from > personal experience than hard data, admittedly) that the stores that are > *really* getting driven into oblivion by the chains are the small general > booksellers, and also the smaller, poorly managed chains. I mean this sincerely, not with an "attitude"--I could put you in touch with numerous lesbian and feminist publishers who could tell anyone who asks what the superstores are doing to their businesses. The super stores stock lots of non-fiction from **mainstream publishers**. They carry some Naiad novels. I've checked out stock in several stores in several states. Their selection has always been LIMITED. There are **many** lesbian publishers who do not get represented in those stores. When customers start patronizing (for ex.) Borders and stop going to (for ex.) Dreams & Swords, there is NO CHANCE of a book from (for ex.) Madwoman Press will sell--Borders doesn't carry many, if *any* Madwoman titles. What will happen to Madwoman? They'll go out of business eventually. > ... I suspect that we'll be able to get them > by mail-order, if by no other means. And that's one of the reasons my business exits . . . Lesbian bookstores disappear, and I get more customers from that area. I'd rather LOSE MY OWN BUSINESS than get more customers this way. The lesbian presses are *vanishing*. When customers go to stores who stock on a very few publishers--mostly the NY big guns--the lesbian owned presses are done for. I'm a member of the only feminist bookseller's organization in the country. If anyone would like access to stats, figures, etc., I can put you in touch. Thanks to Maggie for truly playing Devil's Advocate and not turning this into a heated discussion based on personal opinion. It's a pleasure debating the issues with you! -- Jacky http://www.world2u.com/~thunder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:45:52 +1000 From: Margo Hellyer Subject: catching up Hello fellow listers ... Hasn't been a squeak out of many Aussie or New Zealand listers recently, but I guess that with MLE touring her own country there isn't a whole lot to talk about. Still .. we can make it up. Concert behaviour - most venues in Australia, other than pubs and clubs, do not allow alcohol into the concert. No drunken slurping of beer over near-by concert goers and no getting up to get another round of beers or traipse off to the bathroom. Much more civilised imho. Alcohol is usually available before the show and at half-time, so those that wish to enjoy a drink are able to. Of course, Aust audiences are, by reputation, a little more subdued than their US counterparts .. but perhaps this is as much to do with blood alcohol level as any comparative cultural repression of our exuberance. Sydney as one of MLE's fav cities - whilst I looked on Sydney's nomination in MLE's top four with some consternation (why not Melbourne I ask), I am not really surprised. She has said a few times that she really likes Australia (people, climate, ease of getting around), and Sydney is a rather good looking and interesting city. Kind of like San Francisco only with much better weather. And I'd agree with a couple of the top cd choices - IG's 1200 Curfews and Sarah M's Fumbling are both wonderful. One of the great things about this list is the exposure to music and artists that I haven't heard before eg, Sarah M, Amanda Marshall, Ani Difranco. And in some cases not likely to as they are not distributed in Aust. Still .. cant complain. Have just procured tickets to concerts by those queens of new york cool - Patti Smith and Laurie Anderson. Cant wait for January. Seasons Greetings to all. And really wish that I was back in California doing the Bay Area and LA concerts. Margo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:47:41 -0500 Subject: Cadillac Commercial From: [email protected] Please help! My husband swears that ME sings the song on a new Cadillac commercial. I'm not sure who it is, but I am sure it's not Melissa. I think the name of the song might be "Unchain My Heart." If anyone can tell me who this is I would really appreciate it. I don't know how else I can win this bet. Please e-mail me directly, at [email protected], because I get the moderated version of this list and might miss the post. Thanks for your help. I also would like to thank this entire list for all the ME info provided here. It is very helpful and greatly appreciated. Kim Bolingbrook, IL [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:01:36 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Have a great time! John and the whole SF group of listers! Have a wonderful time tomorrow night!! I will be there with you in spirit!! You will get to me our own Sue D (of NY) and Shirl (of PA). Just make sure Sue D doesn't have the notepad out and is writing anything! Just busting on you Sue! I wish I was there in my favorite city! SF has been since my visit there in '92! I hope to get there soon, after I go to Seattle to visit Christine DuBouis and make my pilgrimage to the hometown of Heart! John, we must talk about radio soon! I do remember following what happened to KFOY in R&R now. It is an *odd* business! Let's do it soon! Have a great time now! And good reports now! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:58:44 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: LOL > LOL!!! You know, it's intersting that I've never really encountered much > rude behavior at any concert I've been to. Somebody, please, tell me what LOL stands for? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:00:01 -0600 From: Juan Manuel Teran Contreras Subject: Introduction and "Star" Question Hi all, This is my first post and so I am not sure if this will work... I have been on the list for some weeks now but haven't been in the country (read: email deprived) for most of it and so haven't written anything myself. However, I wanted to introduce myself. I asked my public name to be changed because I am using my dad's email and so don't want people to think I am him. So in case my public name hasn't been changed I am Susie (not Juan) and I live in Mexico. Not that many Melissa fans here, in fact I only know of one other so if there are any of you out there please let me know. In fact, if I hadn't lived in the States for a while I think I probably wouldn't have heard of Melissa, so thank god I lived there! A while back someone posted something about a Bryan Adams Star single and a duet on it with Melissa. I forget which song they were supposed to have sung together. I finally found the Star single here in Mexico but for the life of me I can't find any song on which Melissa sings... were there two "Star" releases and I bought the wrong one? Someone please help me on this. Well that is all for no. If this works I will be less of a lurker from now on. Happy holidays to all, Susie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:38:28 -0000 From: Vicky Adair Subject: Meeting on Tues. John Miller wrote.... >I'm looking forward to seeing all of "Bay Area Bunch" on Tuesday >(we're now nearly 30 strong), as well as meeting several list-members >who are following her west coast tour. Hi everyone, Was wondering if anyone is meeting somewhere before or after the show? I have been summoned to work this weekend, so I won't be able to meet anyone then. Very very upset about that. But if there is no meeting place. I'll be the one wearing the Melissa T-shirt, Black Melissa letterman jacket, melissa watch, Melissa necklace, and black jeans. Urr... like there won't be more of us like that running around. (just look for the two cute die hard Melissa fans) ;) hehehe See you all there! Vicky's getting more and more excited as the count down moves closer!!!!!! ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 16 Dec 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Wed Dec 18 00:00:54 1996 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 00:00:10 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 16 Dec 1996 to 17 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 05:15:35 GMT From: Maggie Subject: Re: NMEC: "super stores" Jacky wrote: >The *vast* majority of the stores' demographic research and marketing >plans are to go into areas where the market has already been established >by other stores--mostly small businesses. There intent is to steal the >already established clientele. I agree with you that they go into established areas, but only partly on the "small businesses" bit, particularly wrt Borders. I think Crown and the others did the initial damage to small business a decade ago. I still think Borders is primarily competing with other chains, and some smaller stores are "getting caught in the crossfire." >I mean this sincerely, not with an "attitude"--I could put you in touch >with numerous lesbian and feminist publishers who could tell anyone who >asks what the superstores are doing to their businesses. No doubt you could. And I'm sure each one would be sincere in their answer. But it is also necessary to remember that this is from the sellers' perspective, not the customers. > The super >stores stock lots of non-fiction from **mainstream publishers**. They >carry some Naiad novels. I've checked out stock in several stores in >several states. Their selection has always been LIMITED. There are >**many** lesbian publishers who do not get represented in those stores. >When customers start patronizing (for ex.) Borders and stop going to >(for ex.) Dreams & Swords, there is NO CHANCE of a book from (for ex.) >Madwoman Press will sell--Borders doesn't carry many, if *any* Madwoman >titles. What will happen to Madwoman? They'll go out of business >eventually. Two points: Again, rushing to the defense of Borders - they really are doing a better job than their predecessors on the superstore scene in stocking more obscure titles. I've found some very obscure and esoteric academic books there that aren't even carried by most academic bookstores. Admittedly, Borders origin is as an academic bookstore, but still, I'd never have that experience at another chain. They're the lesser of the big evils, by far. Second, it is not clear that Borders customers are drawn to them at the expense of the specialty stores. Even if they are locating near these areas, these may be different markets. Just because a store is losing customers, it does not AUTOMATICALLY mean they are going to Borders, or Crown, or anywhere else. A customer heading into a Borders may be interested in just browsing in a bookstore with a wide selection of topics, and may happen upon a book in the gay and lesbian section that interests them. The customer heading into a lesbigay bookstore wants books on THAT topic, and knows before walking into the store. Two different types of customers - the Borders customer may have never frequented the specialty store, whether or not Borders existed. Borders may cut into the specialty store's sales, but it will never take their place entirely. >> ... I suspect that we'll be able to get them >> by mail-order, if by no other means. > >And that's one of the reasons my business exits . . . Lesbian bookstores >disappear, and I get more customers from that area. I'd rather LOSE MY >OWN BUSINESS than get more customers this way. They also, btw, sometimes never appear in the first place. The nearest one to me right now is about 60 miles. I'd LOVE to have one nearby. I'd also settle for Borders, if I could. Until then, it's mail order for me. >The lesbian presses are *vanishing*. When customers go to stores who >stock on a very few publishers--mostly the NY big guns--the lesbian >owned presses are done for. LOTS of presses are vanishing. Believe me, as someone who's trying to get published, I *do* know how bad it is. But the reasons are much more complex than superstores, and involve subjects such as library funding, the economy in general, changing reading patterns, etc. >I'm a member of the only feminist bookseller's organization in the >country. If anyone would like access to stats, figures, etc., I can put >you in touch. No thanks, I know that there is a lot of truth to your argument. But there is also a lot more complexity to this problem than labeling superstores as the enemy. And those complexities could still show up as declining sales at feminist bookstores, regardless of the cause. >Thanks to Maggie for truly playing Devil's Advocate and not turning this >into a heated discussion based on personal opinion. It's a pleasure >debating the issues with you! Thank you. I hope this doesn't get taken personally, because I would/have made the same argument wrt Starbucks and local coffee shops. Yes, they've been known to drive out local competition, but when you live in the middle of nowhere where there wasn't anyone providing the service in the first place, you'd appreciate their coffee too. These places (Borders, Starbucks, etc) really are a godsend if you're in an area that's always been poorly-served. >From the chain store desert (with, of course, the exception of Walmart :( ), Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:58:25 -0500 From: JENNIFER SASS Subject: Re: NMEC: "super stores" Well I have to put in my .02 on this one. I am a current employee of Borders Books and Music in Traverse City, MI. Our store just opened recently has been extremely successful. I don't think that Borders aims to drive feminist/gay bookstores out of business. If anything, we help them. If there is a title that we don't have at the moment and the customer wants the book now, we call the other store for them to see if they have it. If not, we can order almost any book in print for them. It is a shame that everyone's love for books causes so many problems. If anything, it should bring people together, not cause fights and bankruptcy. Jenny (who proudly works at Borders) Jennifer Sass [email protected] [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:08:29 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: Rosie/Patti/bookstore/scars/LOL Lori asked: >> Does anyone know the address to get onto the Rosie O'Donnell list? Let me be the umpteenth person to send it to you: To: [email protected] In the body of the message: subscribe rosie Aaron wrote: >> Patti Rothberg "Between The 1 And The 9" I got a freebie cassette with a few tracks from this album. The only song that really impressed me was "Inside". Jacky Abromitis wrote: >> years as the chain bookstores have expanded and taken over the >> country, has become a form of censorship. You certainly have a perspective on this that most of us don't. I've recently been involved in a similar discussion on another network. A store choosing not to sell a product is not censorship. (If they alter the product, that's censorship). It's still available somewhere else...Is a radio station practicing censorship if it doesn't play every song it receives, particularly if the song isn't part of the station's format? If all the choices of stores are within the same general area or travelling distance, I'm going to go with the one that has the best price, whether it's an independent store or a chain store. The women's book store in Ottawa used to (don't know if they still do) charge more than the Canadian cover price on some books. Many of their titles were exclusive to them but for the ones available at other stores, why pay more? Other than used books and sales, there never used to be competition amongst stores that sold new books. They were the same price wherever you went. Now there is competition. And that's a good thing. Anne E. Zachritz wrote: > close to Melissa and saw that she had scars. >> Nope! I was on the third row and didn't see a one! I think you have to get closer. ;-) >> Somebody, please, tell me what LOL stands for? Laughing Out Loud Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:17:41 -0600 From: Patti Fink Subject: "Shy & Demure" --- NOT!!!!!!!!!! Of Portland Susan's post wee-hour (no pun intended) post, Maggie tried to spin it her way: >Maggie here...I have nothing to add to this. I plead the fifth.... (she's >really too hammered to handle a keyboard right now!) Maggie >here...NONS3ENCE. BTW the 3 is silent... "Fifth"???? You drank a FIFTH all by *yourself* Maggie??? Sure, anything you say, Maggie there....that "3" is DEFinitely silent... ;) ...and then SueD buzzed (pun intended): >Maggie turned out to be a true party animal. >I know, hard for everyone to believe >that a (non Houstonion) college professor could be this much fun. So Jonti, you gonna defend yourself here, woman???? Oh,...looks like SueD pre-defended you....sorry, didn't mean to get ya riled up! Not any *water* under the bridge to worry about here! (Maybe just some jack though...) >I even made an impression on those women in >the The Wild Rose because of my newly acquired Melissa Pick. Yea, but does it rival the impression I made on those women in The Ridge with *my* pick?? Huh...HUH???? ;) Then the ever-*conscious* and responsible Susan chimed in: >Time for us to get some zzzz's. Oh yea...wight! Maybe a "z"....or even a "zz"....but no WAY did you ever get any "zzzz's"! Gimme a break! Then the next day SueD tried this: >We're baaaaack, it is only 3:15 am PST. Where did the day and the week go? > Susan and I just came through the door and being the good list members that >we are, are posting before sleeping :) So now you're blaming the *list*??!!! BTW, sure it wasn't 3:17am? >Maggie & I each >bought 1 ticket, but Sue D bought 2 & the woman said "You are great...can I >kiss you?" Sue didn't want to be impolite so she planted one on the woman. "Impolite"...."planted"....in the same sentence? Mercy! SueD there, but not saying so: >Being >the marvelous strategists that we are (???), eventually we managed to take >over one wall of the restaurant. Bet you "marked" it too... Of the Portland show & MEIN tix: >Since Susan and I were sitting next to the small stage, we were hoping to >catch prime spots for the set back there. No, no, that couldn't possibly be >our luck tonight. Hey, look at it this way: Bad Melissa seats on a less-than-stellar Melissa voice night. Coulda been worse! (Besides, Sue, the odds *are* a little stacked in your case, dontcha think?!) >I guess that just >egged him on because Kenny started making faces at me while I got goofy right >back at him. My photo of him in Austin, post "Baylor Bears"-in-hostile-territory. Need I say more? Susan, taking the reins again: >That is if I can tear her away from >her "Glow in the Dark Tickle Ring" I *don't* even want to ask! >Well...tomorrow I >take Sue to the airport. I kind of feel like one of those runners with the >Olympic torch. I'm passing her off to the California crowd to take care of >now. I'll miss the duty!! This last 4 days has been some of the best times >I've ever had. OK, BABers and other Californians, take good care of our SueD! Say, none of you have green Jeeps, do ya?? Sue...SUE...take your insurance card for sure!! I must add here that I've christened SueD the official "Spokesmodel of the 1997 Fajita Fest." (Liz.....Liz.....wake UP!) Apparently, she has been doing intense personal campaigns among the many MElisters in her travels, and it's gonna be a BOOM! I'll have a sash ready for ya at next year's FF/GP, Sue! Liz, can you get Mich to build a runway for her? Dontcha think she'll make a great one, Shirl? ....Especially with that "Crabby" hat on as she rises from the dead at 4am EST to catch her flight BACK to the West Coast this morning (Tuesday)! :) OK, I'm outta here for now.... Patti Fink [email protected] "One thing I know for certain...Indecision may or may not be my problem." -- Jimmy Buffett ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:36:26 -0800 From: Jacky Abromitis Subject: Re: NMEC: "super stores" Maggie wrote: > I still think Borders is primarily competing with other chains, and > > some smaller stores are "getting caught in the crossfire." The statistics on customer bases don't support this. > But it is also necessary to remember that this is from the sellers' > perspective, not the customers. Exactly my point--the publishers sales are my point. > Again, rushing to the defense of Borders - they really are doing a better > job than their predecessors on the superstore scene in stocking more obscure > titles. I don't follow the academic sections (though I may need to once I make up my mind about a doctoral program). The majority of stores' lesbian sections are still consistently weak. > Second, it is not clear that Borders customers are drawn to them at the > expense of the specialty stores. Again, the numbers I've seen from--several organizations--all were crystal clear in the relationship to superstores lessening the client base of *all* smaller bookstores. > They also, btw, sometimes never appear in the first place. Still another reason I'm in business . > LOTS of presses are vanishing. ... > than superstores, and involve subjects such as library funding, the economy > in general, changing reading patterns, etc. True there are other factors, but I keep going back to the statistics I've read. Just last night I was reading about the problem with the rate of returns. Unlike most other businesses, publishers will always take returns on their books. The return rate has skyrocketed--in *part* because the chains are ordering *tons* of books to do those cool, impressive displays, regardless of the projected sales. If/when the book doesn't sell, it gets returned. In the meantime, the publisher has had to go back to press to print *more* books because they've all been "sold." Then the returns start coming in. Publishers won't turn down returns from either the big stores or the big distributors (Ingram, Baker & Taylor) because they're *afraid* those distributors/stores will blacklist them. Often, those books are shopwarn and damaged--and can't be sold as "new." Yes, it's a problem more complex than just blaming it on the chains. (I teach English at a county college...don't get me started ). But the numbers from numerous sources unanimously show the correlation between the rise of superstores with the downfall of small specialty stores and the small publisher. And with that, I think I'll let this thread go for the sake of people on digest . Off to give the last of my final exams . . . -- Jacky http://www.world2u.com/~thunder ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:38:46 EST From: DOUG Subject: nmec...just some stuff Hey all. Well, finals are over and graduation is past. So now I just have to get ready for the next semester to begin...but most of that will probably wait till after the new year begins...it's time for some well earned goof-off time! First - bookstores - I understand the problem of the larger chains running smaller stores out of business. BUT (you all knew that was coming...didn't you?) I am so thankful for Books-A-Million. Living where I live, there is very little offered as far as gay/lesbian literature. The is one gay bookstore in Roanoke but that is an hour and a half away. Books-A-Million has a store just 30-45 minutes from me. I would love to patronize gay/lesbian owned businesses but it just isn't as easy in the rural South as it is in cities. Second - top cds - my top five favs are: (1) Secrets - Toni Braxton (2) Amanda Marshall (3) Falling into You - Celine Dion (4) To The Faithful Departed - Cranberries (5) What If It's You - Reba. The soundtrack for "Evita" is quickly becoming one of my top listens too, which leads me to my next topic... Did any of you catch the Oprah show on Friday? Madonna gave her first one hour interview. It was great. I do believe that her daughter has been a very positive catalyst for her. She seems to have ...well, grown up...for lack of a better way of putting it. I can't wait for the film to open. Okay, that's enough for now. Ta Doug (and John) PS - Renee...."HEY!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:36:10 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: Rosanne Cash (CD's of the year) On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Deb wrote: > > So... bump all of the others up a notch, and put Rosanne Cash's 10 SONG > DEMO at #5... This CD is GREAT!!! I just happened to run across it at the Record Store I work at. I love country music, and tons of females in it, but Rosanne has never really stood out till now. Does anyone know if any of her other CD's are as good as that one? Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: [email protected] Bowling Green State Univ. [email protected] Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 16:42:40 -0000 From: Vicky Adair Subject: Vote for Melissa Hi everyone, I just got my top 100 albums of the Internet in my email box and I was very sad to not see Melissa's album there. PLEASE everyone Go to http://www.xs4all.nl/~jojo and vote for Melissa. I'm glad to say my second favorite artist's album is No.1 but I would love to see ME up there. Counting the minutes till heaven tonight!!!! Vicky [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 17:50:52 -0000 From: Vicky Adair Subject: I'll be looking for you! >I will also be visiting a friend from the Ani-list (Mara) who is >working this show at the Rock-Medicine booth, but most of the time >I'll be at the merchandize table... see you there! > John Miller John, I'll be looking for you. But, isn't there more than one merchandise booth. My GF and I will probably visit the bar before the show starts, Like I said before, I should be easy to spot. Black boots, black jeans, black ME T-shirt, Black ME varsity jacket. ME necklace and ME watch. I'm about 5'4" and I have short brown hair. My girkfriend is mexican, about 5'6", shoulder length curly brn hair with blonde highlights, and she'll be wearing a white MEIN t-shirt. Look for us. I would love to meet some of the listers. Vicky [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:48:26 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Rosanne Cash (CD's of the year) Roger, get Rosanne's 1993 album "The Wheel". It is terriffic! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:57:15 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: ME-lister meeting tonight! RE: meeting other ME-listers at tonight's show, I suggested yesterday: >Perhaps we can meet during intermission near the merchandize booth. Of course I forgot that unlike her last two Bay Area shows, Melissa does NOT have an opening act on this tour, so there will be no intermission... d'oh . I still expect to arrive early, and will be looking for others around the lobby area... as Vicky suggested, there is probably more than one merchandize booth, so perhaps we can meet near Rock-Medicine booth, as I know there is only one of those. After I confirm my seat location (either MEIN, or guest-list seats), I'll return to the lobby and hang out near the Rock-Medicine booth. Hope to see y'all tonight! John Miller - holding my breath in anticipation San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:57:50 -0500 From: Tracey Thacker Subject: Re: Vote for Melissa Checking in for a first post from my new-old e-mail address (for those of you who care, I'm back to AOL full time - I know, I know, but I'm a sucker for unlimited hours!) In a message dated 96-12-17 12:18:42 EST, Vicky Adair writes: >I just got my top 100 albums of the Internet in my email box and I was very >sad to not see Melissa's album there. PLEASE everyone Go to >http://www.xs4all.nl/~jojo and vote for Melissa. Was this a top 100 of '96? If so, YLS shouldn't be there - it too was released in '95. And even if it isn't, while I don't know that there are 100 releases this year better than YLS, voting for an album that I thought was marginal at best (and I know that there are others who agree with me - right Deb?) may only be viewed as hypocrisy, and an unintended encouragement for a good musician to deliver subpar goods. I'd far rather cast my vote for any of my top 5 of the year, Patti Rothberg's "Between the 1 and the 9" (did someone else mention that one?) Bush's "Razorblade Suitcase", "Hello" by Poe, (yes, I'm an alterna-head most of the time) Warren Cuccurullo's "Thanks 2 Frank" or 'Friction, Baby" by Better Than Ezra. But that's just me! Chiming out, Tracey Tracey Thacker <><> Note the new (old) address: [email protected] <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> "Well the weather outside is frightful, but the fire is so. . . Hot! OUCH! Hot! Hot! Aaargh! Flames! Help! Help!" <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:46:08 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: Re: LOL Anne wrote: >> LOL!!! You know, it's intersting that I've never really encountered much >> rude behavior at any concert I've been to. > >Somebody, please, tell me what LOL stands for? Lots Of Lesbians? Loads Of Licorice? Land Of Liberals? It means "Laughing Out Loud". Aaron :) "In more than words I tried to tell you The more I tried, I failed" --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:51:14 -0000 From: Vicky Adair Subject: bootlegs Julie Strietelmeier wrote: >I've got all ME's american released CDs but I hear there are >imports... where can I buy them? KTS has three ME Imports available for $22 each http://www.kts.it/index.html I tought others on the list might also want to know! Vicky ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:54:01 -0800 From: Andrea Tan Subject: A year?!, chains, it's MILLER TIME! SMEC Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 20:52:06 -0800 From: Jacky Abromitis Subject: SMEC: Andrea heads east; Westbury anniversary > Andrea was out here this time last year for the Westbury show: Melissa, >Sarah McLaughlin, WOW...I cannot believe it's been that long! Whoo. So, didja ever find anyone who dubbed that show? Still [vainly] searching. Wasn't Sarah *sweet*? Hope to see you this year! ................................................... From: Maggie at avalon Subject: Re: NMEC: "super stores" killing feminist/lesbigay businesses & indep. record stores >2 - the markets that bookstores serve. In other words, >the big chains aren't necessarily evil... Hmm, while I see your pov, I'm more disturbed by the disregard of big chains towards little stores. Instead of working with local bookstores, the Santa Cruz SuperCrown issued a statement that they were going to put all independent bookstores out of business. I find it rude and conceited to throw that kind of weight around. I guess that's the nature of the business beast but that comment alone has made me think harder about where my money goes. Then again, I'm sure the argument could be made wrt visibility to the public, etc. I just don't like the strong arm approach. What if SuperCrown had said something like we recognize the contributions of indie bookstores so with respect to that, we won't carry and will refer you to Dream world, huh? But at least they'd get some of my business instead of me telling everybody to stay away from that store, they're evil! ................................................... Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:34:00 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Melissa excitement >That had to be THE BEST Melissa concert I ever saw, along with the one at the >Mann Music Center here in Philly in the summer of '94... I made the stupid decision not to go and I've regretted it ever since. And the only reason I didn't go was b/c I didn't sure if my gf was going to show up that night or not and I didn't want to go alone so I didn't buy the tickets. ARGH!!! The things you do for love...ok, lust. ................................................... Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:24:08 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re: How to recognize John Miller. >>Subject: How to recognize John Miller...aka Mapboy, John Juan DeMiller, >> EvilCookieMaker, etc... >At least you kept the list short! :) Is someone keeping track? There are too many to remember! >Oh fine! About the only name left out is Don Juan DeMoaner... ACK! Damn! I can't *believe* I forgot the best one! >out of thirty local BABsters, I am the token male...it's such a tough life. But someone's gotta do it and you're *just* the volunteer, right? =) Alright, see you all tonight at the merchandise table! Hope there's only one! Woo hoo!!! =) Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:01:11 +1000 From: Mike Bulger Subject: 5 "Best" of '96 (NMEC) I can't say I could really choose 5 discs that I consider to be the "best" of 1996, especially since there are probably some great releases that just haven't caught my attention yet. I can certainly pick the 5 that spent the most time in my cd changer. Here they are, in no particular order of preference: [MLE fanatics please note: YLS was released in 1995 and so is not eligible for this list, but it wouldn't have made 1995's list, either. I have better hopes for any live cd that might be coming, presuming that it doesn't primarily come from the most recent tour.] 1. "Emancipation" by the Artist Formerly Known as Prince (or Squiggly, after the symbol he uses these days). He's not the trailblazer he used to be--in fact, these days he seems to be following the trends unabashedly--but he's still a prodigious talent, and hard to ignore. "Emancipation" runs 3 hrs. and 3 discs, and everyone (including me) will tell you that it could have been pared down to 2, but no one seems to agree on which tracks should have been left out. He's equally at ease with R&B, soul, funk, hip-hop, pop, rock, and even techno, and on this album, he's obviously very, very happy with his newfound domestic life. Even so, only TAFKAP would take a sample of his unborn child's heartbeat, craft a song around it, and call it "Sex in the Summer." Fun, fun, fun. 2. "Dilate" by Ani DiFranco. Probably quite familiar to a lot of MLE listmembers, AD continues to become more and more introspective, but the music is no less powerful. The usual sparkling lyrics (unlike Ani-wanna-be Alanis Morissette, written for adults--and I don't mean because there's a prominent "fuck" in the chorus of two tracks) and killer melodies. Intense stuff. 3. "Copperopolis" by Grant Lee Buffalo. I don't know why this disc is on this list. No one song sticks in my mind; I can't even think of much to say to entice others to listen to it. Words like "atmospheric" and "haunting" apply but don't really describe it. Regardless, I keep playing it, and playing it, and playing it. 4. "Crash" by The Dave Matthews Band. Consummate musicianship, quirky songwriting. This was their second major-label release, and they chose to flex themselves a bit, as opposed to releasing "Under the Table and Dreaming" II. One of those rare albums where every song has something to offer. (Incidentally, after Jerry Garcia's death DMB was in the running--with Phish, Blues Traveler, and maybe a few other bands--for the media-spawned title of "Grateful Dead successor." Fortunately, they were too good a band to earn it.) 5. "Aenima" by Tool. If only this band and a few others (Soundgarden, I Mother Earth, etc.) would remove their "alternative" label (a classification now cheapened to the point of meaninglessness), more people might realize that metal music is alive and well and, in some ways, more interesting than ever. The only downside is that not many modern metal groups have much fun. Tool is dead serious, but their songs are complex, melodic, intelligent and engrossing. This group has no frills, just music, and while they're not for everybody, I can't get enough of them. Runners-up: "Between Five and Seven" (John Gorka), "No Code" (Pearl Jam), "This Fire" (Paula Cole). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 15:40:13 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: road trip reprieve Jib and rhondda here...tim's here with us in spirit (he's at the cow palace right now ). just a quick note for now, because we've got loads to do before tonight's show. we've been having a blast at the NW shows - spokane, tacoma, and portland. we both agree that tacoma's been the best of the 3 so far, but tonight's front row seats might change that opinion . too much to go into as time is really short, so we'll be sure to catch up on all the stories later. big waves to all the NW listers we've met and barb and maureen in canada (eh!). the sue d stories are all true! good thing that sooz and maggie were there to control her! :-) look for the glow sticks tonight - a lister is probably attached to one of them. how 'bout a teaser to pique your interest? stories range from possible pneumonia to rear enders to potential finger amputation [:-O] separated by breaks for sponge cake and diet doctor pepper and/or rancid corona, but you'll hear all about these misadventures in due time. off to buy a toy or two for a tot! see y'all at the SF show...then on to sacto, leno, phoenix, SD, and LA. someday we'll actually sleep... catch ya on the flip side! Jib and *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:57:52 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Re: Introduction and "Star" Question In a message dated 12/17/96 4:14:33 AM, Susie wrote: << A while back someone posted something about a Bryan Adams Star single and a duet on it with Melissa. I forget which song they were supposed to have sung together. I finally found the Star single here in Mexico but for the life of me I can't find any song on which Melissa sings... were there two "Star" releases and I bought the wrong one? Someone please help me on this.>> I can't remember the name of the song they sang, but I believe the duet is on the "Star" UK 2-CD maxi-single set, as opposed to a U.S. version, which would in all likelihood have different songs, or more likely, not as many songs. Jill ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 16 Dec 1996 to 17 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Thu Dec 19 00:00:57 1996 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:00:18 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 17 Dec 1996 to 18 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:31:02 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: Tacoma Hello, hello. Finally have the time and energy to write about my experiences in Tacoma. It's not that I'm less dedicated than SueD, more like I'm still a bit shy about posting here. OK, well I didn't get all the details about the pre-concert gathering cuz one of my friends (Karen) who was going with me didn't wanna go to it. But when we got to Tacoma, Karen's gf wanted to go to the lister thingy. So, I called Billy McHale's and tried to add our 6 to the reservations. I figured it would be in SueD's name, but it wasn't. So the guy started reading down the list of reservations for me, and came across the name Melissa. I knew that had to be it, and added ourselves to the 5:30 resv. When we got to the BMcH's, they said Melissa's resv. was for tomorrow. We said no way, must be a mistake, and were seated at a place for 12. Then at 6:30 or so, after no one else had shown up (no, we had not waited to order our food), we decided to send a scout around the restaurant looking for PLU. Well, there they were, stuck in the corner. I met many beautiful women, and Richard. And of course the infamous?notorious?what's the word I'm looking for? Oh, yeh, ever-gracious SueD!!!!! (Is that one word or 2?) She gave all 6 of us glow-necklaces like the other listers had, which were way cool, cuz then we could see each other in the dark of the audience. Oh, and we did tell the waiter that Melissa would be in at 5:30 the next day...rilly. Well, I'm no longer a virgin, saw Melissa for my first time in Tacoma. The way she kept rolling Tacohhhma off her tongue I started wondering if they were considering it for the name of their next kid. Right near the beginning of the concert a small group of women yelled "How's the baby?" And Melissa bent her elbows and poked them one at a time out to the side, and said "kicking." Karen got 4th row, I got 10th. So our gf's sat with each other in row 10, and the 2 maniacs sat in row 4. I think later my gf regretted that decision, but too late. Um, that thing Melissa does with her guitar, looks like making love, is that what y'all call the body song? Anyway, I noticed her body guard was ready to stop anyone from approaching the stage during it, which I think was unnecessary, cuz all the girls in my vicinity looked trapped in rapture, just standing there with their mouths hanging open. Good thing I didn't sit down after that, I think I would have slid right off my chair. (I forgot to tell you that my friend Karen sometimes takes over control of my keyboard, whenever you see me say anything like that, it's rilly prolly her). Another fun thing was when Melissa got the audience to echo "uh-oh, uh-oh" during IIWT at the back stage. And then on and on in different combinations uh-uh-uh-uh-oh, etc. She also did MMITB at the back stage, which was appropriate, and she sang the other lyrics, the "If you bring me candy, I will let you know" ones. She did a Janis imitation which was rillly good, in 2 or 3 of her songs. In YLS she did that talking thing like, well I don't think I can give it justice but sorta like, "hey baby I thought this thing between you and I was supposed to be y'know just you and me but day after night after day I come home and..." can't remember it all accurately "it's just a little secret, just a little bitty secret" She also imitated her high "notes"amazingly well. She also broke into Janis in another song or 2, can't remember which right now... I sure do like it when she rock-n-rolls and jumps around and does her tuff act. Oh, and I like the song ICHBY, it's message, but have had a hard time listening to it because the anger is so intense. But seeing her do it live rilly made me love it more. Now I have a hard time listening to TWIO, cuz it's the end of the show and I get sad. She leaned into the audience at 3 dif. locations from the stage, and let people touch her. This was amazing to experience. I could see her preparing herself, like focusing on her heart, surrounding herself with good energy and trusting. And somehow it seemed she was surrounded with love. She embodied LOVE, the big love, incredible, it looked to me like all were so very gentle and respectful with her. I get choked up now just thinking about it. When she hung onto John and leaned back, I was close to her, and touched her hair and her back right at that little soft bulge that happens right under your bra strap, y'know? I was so close I could have grabbed a handful of skin-tight-black-leather-covered a- -, but there was no way I would have. It could have made her not lean into us in the future, I thought, and who would wanna ruin it? No one, cuz all the women were only touching her above the waist, on her back. Cool. Wonder what that feels like to Melissa. They were selling sno-cones. This is one of the first concerts I've been to sober (we don't get many names I like here, I think Teresa Trull or Tina Turner was the last concert I was at before this one). What an amazing difference. I was still standing at the end, could still dance, could still see, went home with my own and only my gf. And.....No hangover. I remember the whole concert. And I don't think I insulted as many people as when I was drinking. Don't know how to explain this part of the whole experience either, but it seems like somehow experiencing a Melissa concert made me fall more in love with my gf. I got Melissa's water glass after the show. My gf asked how I knew it was Melissa's, and I just said I KNEW. I shared the water. It had 2 floaters in it, I drank 1 and saved 1. I liked seeing Melissa surrounded by such competent and dedicated body guards. Some fool jumped up on the stage when Melissa was walking along the front touching hands with the audience, and they had that fool wrapped up in their arms and off the stage in NO time. Bummer she needs the security, but thankful that she has some looking out for her welfare so well. Well, more than enough said. Ebullient loquacity from a newbie. Hmmm. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:37:28 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: lol LOL LOL LOL = little old lady lesbian on line laughing out loud. =) --marcy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:13:45 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: breathless and nearly speechless... saw Melissa tonight in San Francisco... it's been a good night... lots of old friends... several new ones (or faces for old cyber-friends)... a wonderful evening of music... I'm still jazzed... much more later... John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:12:06 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: best/books/letter DOUG wrote: Second - top cds - my top five favs are: >> (1) Secrets - Toni Braxton (2) Amanda Marshall The Amanda Marshall album was released in 1995 in Canada. My airport buddy Tracey wrote: >sad to not see Melissa's album there. PLEASE everyone Go to >> Was this a top 100 of '96? If so, YLS shouldn't be there - it too >> was released in '95. Perhaps it's like the Grammys and Junos and goes from the fall of the previous year to the fall of the current year. And like you I wouldn't choose an album as "best" just because it's by a favourite artist. I might buy anything the person releases but I'm not obligated to think that all their work is good. >> Patti Rothberg's "Between the 1 and the 9" That's 2 people in a couple of days to mention this one. I must listen to the sampler tape again. Andrea wrote: >> What if SuperCrown had said something like we recognize the >> contributions of indie bookstores so with respect to that, we won't >> carry and will refer you to >> While the store was wrong to say they were going to put the independent stores out of business, this isn't a good idea either. What if you don't have that specialized store in your area? Or what if it's not easy to get to? Why should I go to one end of the city to get sci-fi books and another to get computer books? Not all of us have the time or the transportation. (Well, now that the bus strike has been settled and the buses will be free for a few days, I can more easily get all over town). Francie wrote: >> We are not here to judge one another. There is a higher being to >> do that. This is true only for those of us who believe in G-d. Who judges if one doesn't believe? Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:31:56 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Judgement? Was just thinking about this: >This is true only for those of us who believe in G-d. Who judges if >one doesn't believe? >Elaine ...and was wondering...if you don't believe than why does one need\care about having a judge??? Not trying to start a flame session just pondering. On to less spiritual topics, Hello to the BAB and SueD. Looking forward to seeing all of you again! Hope everyone is taking care of my bud SueD for me while she is on her West Coast leg of this tour. Get the Kamikazee's ready John as SueD, Patty and myself will be ready for some BAB & Mean People Suck toasts! Remember John, Beer it just isn't for breakfast anymore. Can we have your awesome French Toast for breakfast, please, please, please! Have a great day everyone, Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah BTW - If anyone needs to know how to recognize John Juan DeMiller DeMap Boy DeMoaner...and so on and so on there are pictures of him on my Web Site as well as the infamous SueD. Just navigate down to my favorite places and click on BAB visit for pics of John and SueD is all over a lot of the other links as well. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:44:43 -0500 From: Mary Fiedorczyk Subject: Baby Shower! Goodmorning! I've been kicking around this idea, and thought I'd throw it out to see if anyone would be interested! How about a "listers" baby shower for Melissa and Julie to welcome Austin? Ok..and a real good reason for a party!! Heres what I've come up with so far.. Ofcourse, we'd HAVE to hold it IN AUSTIN..my g/f has close connections in the travel agency, and Im sure I could persuade her to help organize that end. We'd all bring gifts, but since the happy parents will be flooded with rattles and diapers, we could donate ours to a charity..say a battered womens shelter or childrens home? We could come up with one thing from our group..maybe a babysize Listers tee??? (whats going on with that anyway?? ) We would invite the moms and Austin..tho I doubt their schedule would permit..so we could video the whole event to send to them. We could ask M.E.I.N to list it in their website to try and promote the event. I figure a nominal cover of say $20.00 to try to recover the costs of decorating,catering and other misc. expenses, tho that could be a high estimate depending on the response. I'm in Ohio..but would be very excited about traveling to the #1 lesbian friendly town to welcome our hero's first born!! Considering the amount of planning involed, I doubt we could pull this off before the big day, but Im thinking maybe the 1st weekend in Feb?? Since we'll all have the ole post holiday blues, it would be something to look forward to. So...whatcha think??? Anyone interested (serious inquiries only, please, as I dont want to be the only one to show up and have to eat food for 100 people myself!) Email me personally... any ideas ANYONE would have, post them!! We al want Melissa to know our names...this may be a great oppurtunity, and benifit all of us and some needy kids. YES....Im EXCITED!!!!!! Mary (who has to go try to salvage a very bad hair day!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:47:07 -0600 From: David Goodman Subject: faves, NMEC, etc.... Hi All, Tons of NMEC below. I've been very quiet here this year. ME doesn't make my list for faves of this year. YLS died pretty early for me. I still enjoy NTG and a couple others but the life of this CD is a fraction of the previous ones. I hope she comed though with an amazing live CD or alot of us will be disappointed. I hope she does something like the Indigo Girls did this year. I would love to have a great version of LTWID with Lets Get it On from the early tours, and KIP from the March on Washington, and ITOO from this latest tour and Occasionally from the old bar days. Fave CDs 97. Aimee Mann - I'm With Stupid My most listened to CD of the year. I think Deb said it all. Crowded House - The Very Best Of I love this band and I'm very sorry to see them end. I was in Sydney for the final show to 150,000 people on the steps of the Opera House and a full moon. It was the closest thing I've had to a religious experience in years. :-) Anyone know how good Aussie <-> US video tape conversions are. I'm getting a copy of the show mailed to me and I'm wondering what to expect. Anyone who likes great pop music that is fun to listen to - pick this up for a good cross section of this bands work. Sheryl Crow - Sheryl Crow This was a real suprise for me. I didn't enjoy her first CD but I can't get enough of this one. I love it. Since it's come out so late, it could make next years list as well. She does so many things right on this CD that ME does wrong with YLS. The songwriting is strong and fun, the music is interesting and has a groove, etc. Emancipation - TAFKAP Wow! Alot of everything he does so well. Though I agree that it could have been pared down to 2 CDs, I'm glad he didn't. Everyone I talk to has a different opinion of what should be cut and who's to say that 3 months from now, I'm not going to discover things that I haven't noticed yet. This will probably be my most listened to CD of 97. New Adventures in Hi Fi - REM This CD has a much longer CD player life than Monster. It's no Automatic for the People but there aren't many of those. It's got great hooks but it's also noisy and non calculated. Also close, Bush's sixteen stone (I was a late bloomer), Me'shelle N's 2nd, Indigo Girls 1200 Curfews.... As far as what my next purchases are. I think from all of the recommendations, I'm going to get Dilate by Ani Difranco. It seems to be highly recommended by people I have similar taste as. In 97 I'm looking forward to the new Sarah McLachlin, Aimee Mann is going to have another, Pat Benatar is going for a comeback with Innamorata (sp). Though I have no knowledge of anything in the works, I'm sure Elaine and myself would love a new Annie Lennox release. Other comments. I think Oprah should learn to shut up once in a while when interviewing people. She interrupted Madonna quite a few times. Who's being interviewed????? Sorry for rambling with NMEC. I'll go away now. Dave (The original Chicago Dave). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 07:30:08 -0800 From: "Sheri Yamada (Entex)" Subject: Tacoma (Seattle) and Portland gathering So I'm sitting here, getting depressed and thinking about how much I would have liked to go to the SF show and how much I want to go to the LA show! The NW shows were great.....I think between Marcy's, Sooz's, and SueD's posts, you can tell fun times were had by all! My concert highlights were: 1) Obtaining a pick via a persistent friend ("plz check in your pockets...you might have one") 2) Hanging onto the stage for the last part of the concert and trying not to get my head stepped on when that fool jumped on stage. You know how those Melissa mosh pits can be! 8-) 3) Hanging onto the backstage and having Melissa within arms reach. Close enough to think to myself, she doesn't have a lot of fillings in her upper teeth and I bet she wears size 6 or 6.5 Doc Martens. 4) John shook my hand so hard, he yanked my ring off and I stood there in disbelief thinking, "hey, John stole my ring!" It turned out that it fell under the stage curtain 5) LASTLY, a hand, thigh, and forearm touch when Melissa shook hands with everybody in front of the stage Thanks SueD for the glow necklaces and glow sticks, as of last night, they're were dimly lit still! Amazing! Well, I just wanted to say hi to all the people that either live in or around the NW or made the great Trek. It's great to finally put some faces to all the e-mail names. To all the people who are headed to the rest of MLE's shows.....have a great time! You are definitely in for a treat! A big howdy to Sarah, Sooz(I hope your neck is doing better), SueD (you go girl...way to conquer the west coast) Maggie, Rhondda, Marcy, Barb,.....yikes, I know there's more names I'm forgetting ....sorry! Take care everybody! Enjoy! Sheri One last comment - Bell bottom black lace ups.......bad........straight legged anything.....good! Come on....admit it......some of you were longing for the infamous fashion report! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 12:11:37 -0500 From: Deb Subject: NMEC: Rosanne Cash (CD's of the year) On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, roger zender wrote: > On Sun, 15 Dec 1996, Deb wrote: > > > > So... bump all of the others up a notch, and put Rosanne Cash's 10 SONG > > DEMO at #5... > > This CD is GREAT!!! I just happened to run across it at the Record Store > I work at. I love country music, and tons of females in it, but Rosanne > has never really stood out till now. Does anyone know if any of her > other CD's are as good as that one? My favorite of hers is, by far, THE WHEEL, which probably is the least country of all of her outings, though they all stray from country to folk, pop, and rock. INTEERIORS is also excellent. -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ________________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: September 67, LUCKY SHOE Listen to it at http://cdnow.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:23:40 -0600 From: jonti bolles Subject: honorable defense the partying Sue D. and Patti Fink wrote> >>I know, hard for everyone to believe >>that a (non Houstonion) college professor could be this much fun. > >So Jonti, you gonna defend yourself here, woman???? Oh,...looks like SueD >pre-defended you....sorry, didn't mean to get ya riled up! Not any *water* >under the bridge to worry about here! (Maybe just some jack though...) hey. Sue knows very well that houston professors are great little party animals. i mean we have all these things to celebrate all the time. like finsihing grading finals, woohoooo! and when we arent celebrating, we have to let off some steam. and not so much jack this season. but, i will admit my drink of choice lately *looks* like water!! Sue: congrats on all your recent escapades. you have really entertained the list with all the updates. i am jealous that i couldnt be there with you. next time you are in texas or i decide to travel north. WATCH OUT! i got my own pick at the houston concert, but it was only from a stage roadie. not quite official, but i will take it in the meantime. kewl. gotta go play some more. KIP jt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:29:08 -0600 From: John Taylor Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 16 Dec 1996 to 17 Dec 1996 On the bookstores thing: As a published author, I have mixed feelings about chains. They are a godsend in that they draw a much larger following and can help promote a book. The point seems valid that it's their right to sell what they like, but if they don't sell it because it's a "fag" book, then that's censorship caused by biggotry. Why pay more? While none of us wants to part with scarce cash, one reason is that if they're providing something you're enjoying and you don't help them support their higher costs, they won't be there in the future for you. Also, some small stores will go alot farther to special-order a book for you than chains can or will. Crown/Supercrown is a good example of a bad bookstore. A good share of their stock is stuff the publishers have dumped, while other areas, even popular ones, remain thin, and their service is decidedly lacking. No one's mentioned B. Dalton, which I often enjoy spend time at. They're stocking the "Sword of Ice" anthology which I wrote the title tale in, so I'm happy with them. I'd like to bring a recording artist to your attention. Michael McDermott has been providing me with music I enjoy for 3 albums now, but gotten little airtime. His "Just West of Eden" was about the only tune to get much exposure at all, and that may only have been on a local level. I can't say he's another Melissa, but will say that it's a similar talent. The first two albums may be out of print, and while all 3 albums bear his style, they're each distinctively different. Like our own ME, he begins almost entirely accoustic, gets more electric in the second album, and keeps the electric but tones it down a bit in the 3rd. Certainly worth checking into. I also got into Jeffrey Gaines after he opened for MLE a couple tours back. He's got a 2nd album out. While I prefer the first by far, the second still has merit. Now if someone would steal his electric from him....:) That's all for now. Be well, speak true. John --=20 Impossible: An opinion, not a fact. http://galstar.com/~falconer HOMEPAGE REVAMPED Sat.12/7/96 - Come check it out! mailto:[email protected] =A91996 John "Taylor" Yezeguielian - All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:58:49 -0700 From: Allison Fraiberg Subject: 5 cds for 96 Inspired, as always, by Deb, here are my faves of '96: 1. Wild Colonials, "This Can't Be Life" Without a doubt, my fave of the year and the best show I saw all year as well. Side note: September 67 was scheduled to open for them last week but didn't. 2. Paula Cole, "This Fire" Also a wonderful live show I thought. 3. Aimee Mann, "I'm With Stupid" Proof that irony isn't dead. 4. Sheryl Crow, "Shery Crow" If for nothing else than her ability to sneer well. 5. Jane Siberry, "Maria" (1995) I can't think of a 5th and I looked through my entire cd collection. '96 was not a happy cd year for me so I'll dip into 1995 for my last pick. Let's just say it's a great "evening" album. Thanks to all the others who have posted their faves of 1996. Allison ***pleae note new email address for those who care*** [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:19:17 -0500 From: "Carrie K. Tibbs" Subject: SF Concert I have to delurk to express my wonder with our Lady Melissa. She was awesome last night. I was amazed that the venue was not sold out. I am sure more people will post their impressions. I saw many purple shirts. I forgot to bring mine to work and didn't have time to go back and get it. Got 8th row seats.. Nice work, MEIN. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:52:02 -0500 From: "Christina M. Kougher" Subject: LA Melissa sighting!!!! Hello fellow MElisters..... This past weekend I attended the EVITA premiere in LA. Among the list of stars that attended were Melissa and Julie! I saw an advanced list of stars who were supposed to attend which included KD, not Melissa....so imagine my surprise when I saw the two of them walking down the red carpet holding hands!!!!! Julie's other hand remained in her belly!!! They are such an amazing looking couple, I took wonderful pictures of them!!! They both looked beautiful!!! The movie EVITA is outstanding, Madonna fan or not, I suggest you go see this film! But please, make sure you bring a box of tissues!!!! (and yes Madonna just blew me away,she looked sooooooooooo beautiful! She was there with Carlos!) Thanks for listening, and please let me know what you think of EVITA!!!! Love..............Tina in MI ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:46:22 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: 5 cds for 96 My picks, if you care, for 1996 In no special order! Jerry Maguire Soundtrack Out just one week, featuring tracks from The Who, Aimme Mann, Bruce Springsteen and Heart's Nancy Wilson. Sheryl Crow-Sheryl Crow I love the first one, saw her in concert, heard the first single, got the cd. It is raw and non-forgiving! Sophmore thumbs-up for Sheryl. Looking forward to the tour!! Fiona Apple-Tital A new talant too look for!! The single "Shadowboxer" is a sultry piano drive ballad that haunts! I had the pleasure of seeing this 18 year old in concert 2 weeks ago. Run, don't walk to get this album and to see her in concert! Sting-Mercury Falling Sting is mellowing as he gets older but still is the songwriter! I am sorry I did not get to see him this summer in concert :( Journey-Trial By Fire I always liked Journey but never owned any of their cds. Now I do! Look for the song"When You Love A Woman" to become the "Open Arms" for the late '90s. They are better than ever before! Runner up: Tonic-Lemon Parade Modern Rock Radio has embraced this East/West Coast band. "Open your Eyes" has just crossed in the AOR charts. See them live! I have twice!! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:12:50 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: (no subject) > >> Nope! I was on the third row and didn't see a one! > > I think you have to get closer. ;-) God, wouldn't I love to do just that!!! :-> ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 17 Dec 1996 to 18 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Thu Dec 19 16:44:47 1996 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 16:44:08 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 18 Dec 1996 to 19 Dec 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:17:20 -0800 From: Christine Subject: Re: judgment > Francie wrote: > >> We are not here to judge one another. There is a higher being to > >> do that. Elaine said: > This is true only for those of us who believe in G-d. Who judges if > one doesn't believe? Really, I echo Francie's sentiment regardless of the existence or non-existence of a higher being. Nobody should judge one another. Live and let live. Christine (who believes in the Goddess, actually) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 02:22:35 -0600 From: "John \"Taylor\" Yezeguielian" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 17 Dec 1996 to 18 Dec 1996 Dave, ME isn't your favorite this year? You disloyal B******, you're not worthy, you're not worthy!!! (Just kidding, mostly.) John --=20 Impossible: An opinion, not a fact. http://galstar.com/~falconer HOMEPAGE REVAMPED Sat.12/7/96 - Come check it out! mailto:[email protected] =A91996 John "Taylor" Yezeguielian - All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:57:00 +1000 From: "GREIG, Stuart C (AACS)" Subject: Meatloaf G'Day from down under, I knew the answer to a question that was asked here a week or so ago regarding the identity of the female vocalist who accompanies Meatloaf. Why that question was asked here still confuses me but at least now I have the name off the tip of my tongue.... Her name : Ellen Foley! (Now can we have no more talk of Bonnie Tyler.) Regards, ===================================================== Stuart C Greig Canberra, Australia URL http://www.acslink.aone.net.au/greig/ mailto:[email protected] ===================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:18:37 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: Joplin Movie News! Hi everyboby, In the daily newspaper of our district ('Limburgs Dagblad') was great news today! They write that it is for sure that Mel is going to play Janis in the movie of Janis Joplin's life. It's also sure that she will be making a soundtrack-album (!). Can anybody tell me if this is total reliable info? The newspaper sometimes writes nonsense and I don't know what I have to believe anymore..... I hope it is true. If it ia we'll have a new album next year with lots of Janis covers and I love it! Everybody a happy x-mas and a fine new year! Greetings, Marcel. <<< who is now in the final stage of organizing the dutch listers meeting >>> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 02:58:02 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: San Fran report (long) After seeing Melissa perform Tuesday night in San Francisco, I wrote: >Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:13:45 -0800 >Subject: breathless > >and nearly speechless... > >saw Melissa tonight in San Francisco... it's been a good night... lots >of old friends... several new ones (or faces for old cyber-friends)... >a wonderful evening of music... I'm still jazzed... much more later... I think that's the shortest post I've written since I joined the list in April '95.......... I'll make up for it tonight. :) ARRIVAL - Becky O'Bryan and I arrived early (6:10pm) to collect my MEIN tickets, then we looked for Ray, the Polygram rep who had our 'pre-show' backstage passes... within seconds of getting our tickets, we bumped into two of the south-bay BAB contingent, Tami and Joetta... moments later we met Susan and Diane Budjako, and Catherine Maloney, and they were all wearing their purple MElister bowling shirts... those shirts sure make it easy to find other listers from a distance in the crowd! WAITING - Becky and I found the Polygram rep, confirmed our names were on the guest list, then waited with the polygram rep until 6:45, at which time he escorted us to the backstage security gate... there we saw the security guard assigned to the gate was the same security guard Becky recently met on the set of the soon-to-be-released movie 'Mad City', starring Dustin Hoffman and John Travolta... it was filmed in downtown San Jose during October, and Becky has a small role in the film (her first film role). BACKSTAGE - We were then led upstairs to a *small* room where we waited with about twenty other people who had 'pre-show' passes... I recognized one of the women from the band 'Riverpoets', the same band for which Mardi and Rose opened in San Jose last April... about 7:00pm, Melissa walked in and said (smiling), "I tried to find a smaller room for you all to wait, but this was the best I could do". Though time was short, none of us felt rushed, and Melissa calmly spent a few moments with each of us as we shook hands, introduced ourselves, and stood for a photograph with her... we were each allowed to bring *one* item for Melissa to autograph... Becky had a pristine copy of the PETA poster which Melissa signed, and I had the large red YLS poster. MEETING LISTERS - By 7:15 we checked the location of our MEIN seats, and saw Sheri and Jodee (more BAB-folk) were seated two rows in front of us. We then went to the lobby to wait next to Rock-Medicine (an all-volunteer group of doctors, nurses, EMT's and first-aiders who provide medical aid at Bay Area shows), where I met Mara, a friend from the Ani-Difranco-list (we had an Ani-boot trade). Moments later I saw the radiant smile of Rhondda running towards me, with Jib (from Spokane) following close behind... moments later, Kim Luce was sneaking up on me from behind ... hugs and smiles and a few moments to share stories of following Melissa from Las Vegas through Washington and Portland, then off to our seats for the 7:30 showtime. Our MEIN seats... not bad! We were on the main floor, dead-center, about (I estimate) 35-40 rows from the stage, 10 rows in front of the sound board, which gave us a perfect location for sound in this huge barn-like venue (it's called the Cow Palace because it's where all the livestock shows and rodeos are held in the Bay Area)... the main floor is flat, limiting sight lines to the stage, but the large screens provided good vision of Melissa and her band. This is the first time I tried MEIN seats (because I was out of town following Ani Difranco on tour on the day BASS-tickets went on sale), and they were much better seats than what I saw available through BASS/Ticketmaster. TAPING THE SHOW - KFOG-FM (104.5 and 97.7) was allowed to broadcast some portions of the show. Since I was *not* home to play tape-swapping games with my two tape decks, I fed the FM audio signal to my VCR and used a 6-hour video tape to assure I got everything KFOG broadcast that night. KFOG broadcast most of Melissa's first set, none of her 2nd (small-stage) set, all of her third set (BMSW, ITOO, YLS), and all of her first encore (LTWID)... I have transcribed the show to audio cassette and it is very good sound, direct (via radio) from the sound board. AFTER the holidays I will make it available to the list via the usual tape tree procedures. THE VENUE - the Cow Palace holds 10500-14500, depending on how the stage and seating is arranged... I'm guessing it was about 12000 for this show. By the end of the first set (when late-arrivals were seated), the place appeared almost filled, close to 95% capacity, which matches the estimate security gave me when I spoke with them after the show. THE SHOW - most of you know I'm *not* a fan of large venues, in fact some would call me a small-venue fanatic... I usually frequent 200-500 capacity clubs (at least two-dozen shows a year, plus other shows in the 1000-2000 range)... and I've seen Melissa four times in clubs of less than 400, so I don't usually look forward to seeing her (or *anyone*) in large venues. Both of the previous YIA tours disappointed me because of venue size, and I have often mentioned here that YIA and YLS are *not* my favorite albums, so I was surprised at how much I enjoyed this show. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Her show is tightly choreographed, very professional, and her technical staff is excellent... cheers to her sound/light/video crew... whoever was directing all the technical elements of this show deserves a lot of praise... if any of her management is on this list, please accept my thanks from this former theatrical sound/light/video tech... well done! During her first set, Melissa sang Lennon's 'Happy Christmas/War Is Over- Give Peace A Chance', and as she was introducing the song, BAB-member JJ tossed a SANTA cap onto the stage for Melissa... Mark Browne picked it up and placed it on Melissa's head... Melissa sang 'Happy Christmas' wearing it, clearly enjoying the spirit of the moment, then threw the cap back to the audience... it landed some distance from JJ, but JJ quickly retrieved it... way to go JJ! Besides JJ, there were other BABsters sitting in the first few rows: Rhondda and Jib (in Rhondda's KFOG front row seats!), Susan, Diane, and Catherine... I don't know where others were seated, though I know there were many other listers (BAB or not) present... and somewhere up front was Tim Dunker. The switch between main stage and small stage was smoothly done, and a big surprise to many (including the two KFOG DJ's) who had never seen anything like it before... as reported here by others, (and unlike her last YIA tour), the entire band moved to the small stage, giving people seated in the back a great view... I'm guessing those in the front few rows probably had a hard time seeing the video screens, though I saw many run back to the small stage during this set. For me, the show really took off with the third set, after the band had returned to the main stage... BMSW is still one of my all-time fav's and holds special personal memories for me (noooo, we will *not* discuss my special fascination with songs about obsession ), followed by ITOO (clearly an audience favorite), and YLS, with lots of Joplinesque rap between songs from Melissa... looks like she's getting some practice for the Joplin film... the audience seemed to be most alive during this set. THE AUDIENCE - after reading all the comments about proper behavior at concerts, I was paying more attention than usual to the subject... as I have mentioned about other Melissa shows I've seen, this audience was one of the most polite I've encountered in large venues... I did *not* hear anyone near me singing/talking so loud that they interfered with hearing or enjoying Melissa... it seemed to me that people were clearly there to see/hear Melissa, not *just* party with their friends... the audience was rowdy, but a fun-loving rowdy. After the show, I spoke with Rock-Medicine personnel, and they confirmed my impression by telling me they had fewer incidents at this show than at any similar large-venue event. BTW, during the third set, I could see one woman standing on her chair in about the 3rd row, probably right behind where Rhondda and Jib were standing... she danced on her chair all during the third set... I have no idea if anyone was behind her, and I saw nobody near her who seemed upset with her... perhaps they, like me, were *enjoying* watching her dance ... she was very good! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I wonder if that person is on this list... SECOND ENCORE - was TWIO, and I gained a new respect for the song... it seems Melissa wrote it with live encore performance in mind, and I think it works well in this role... I appreciated the way each band-member was able to stretch out here, though I have never been a fan of John Shank's guitar (I have much different tastes in guitar players)... Mark Browne, as always, was solid throughout the evening, though I will always miss Kevin's bass... and Kenny Aronoff is *amazing*... just wonderful! The 'American Concept' line of drumsticks offers a special 'grooved for better grip' line of Kenny Aronoff 'powerplay' sticks in solid hickory. Anyone on this list get the drumsticks he tossed to the audience after the show??? AFTER THE SHOW - Becky and I waited in the lobby next to Rock-Medicine, hoping to see other listers... I was pretty jazzed after the show, and I'm not sure how well I remember all the details, but I remember seeing Rhondda and Jib again (they were radiant!), Andrea (who teased me about how *accurate* her description of me was ), and Wen (and friends), Alma and Mo... great hugs all around... saw Candra again, though this was the first time we met at a Melissa-event (we met at a Jewel show at SLIM's)... and I met Leigh, and Eve (new to the list)... sorry I missed you Vicky and Donna, and any other of the few remaining BAB-folk I have not yet met... and I'm sorry I missed seeing Tim Dunker. Great evening! Still had a grin on my face when I went to bed at 2:00am. John Miller San Jose CA PS: Just got a phone call at my office from Rhondda (2:30am... how did she know I would be here?)... she attended the Sacramento show and said it was John Shanks' birthday, so Melissa and the band had some birthday fun with him, including a spontaneous 'Happy Birthday' by the audience during the second 'B-stage' set... and after the band took their formal bow (I love that!), they all tackled John Shanks and gave him a spanking! PPS: For those watching Melissa on LENO Thursday night (tonight!), watch for three wild and crazy women with one guy in the audience... that will be Rhondda, Jib, Allison, and Tim Dunker... Rhondda will be the one wearing the purple bowling shirt and the SANTA hat . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:35:08 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: Shawn Colvin/live album/book stores I figure this will interest several people here: >> WIRETAP WEEKLY >> The Weekly Guide to What's Hot at Sony Music Online >> http://www.sony.com/Music >> LIVE >> + SHAWN COLVIN >> Live, RealAudio broadcast from the KBCO Almost Acoustic Christmas >> show >> Saturday, December 21 @ 8pm EST >> Tune in @ http://live.apple.com Shirley Hoffman wrote: >This is true only for those of us who believe in G-d. Who judges if >one doesn't believe? >Elaine >> ...and was wondering...if you don't believe than why does one And I thought you'd twitted my address because I had the audacity to tell you that both you and the photographer should have asked permission before posting pictures on your web page. Chicago Dave lives! >> like the Indigo Girls did this year. I would love >> to have a great version of LTWID with Lets Get it On >> from the early tours, and KIP from the March on Washington, >> and ITOO from this latest tour and Occasionally from >> the old bar days. That's a great idea! Songs from various tours. Maybe because neither YLS the album nor YLS the tour did as well as expected, she'll realize that a live album from the tour won't all of a sudden make people like YLS. >> have no knowledge of anything in the works, I'm >> sure Elaine and myself would love a new Annie Lennox >> release. :-) :-) :-) >> Other comments. I think Oprah should learn to shut up >> once in a while when interviewing people. She interrupted >> Madonna quite a few times. Who's being interviewed????? In some cases Madonna was interviewing Oprah. But Oprah's certainly not the only interviewer to interrupt guests while they're talking. And most talk show guests don't get the whole show. So we still got a lot more of a Madonna interview than if she'd been interviewed by anybody else. John Taylor wrote: >> their right to sell what they like, but if they don't sell it >> because it's a "fag" book, then that's censorship caused by >> biggotry. Did anybody say that some stores weren't selling books because they were gay books? Would you expect a religious book store to sell gay books? I disagree that it's either censorship (censorship would be if passages were cut out or if the book was not available anywhere) or bigotry. Maybe they're not selling a genre because there's no market for it or they have no interest in carrying it. >> Why pay more? While none of us wants to part with scarce cash, one >> reason is that if they're providing something you're enjoying and >> you don't help them support their higher costs, What higher costs? Do they pay more for product because they can't afford/don't need to buy in volume like chain stores do? Certainly their overhead - rent, salary, etc. - is lower than for a chain store. >> and their service is decidedly lacking. When I go into a book store, I know what I'm looking for. I don't need somebody coming over to me and asking if I need any help. The only time I need service is at the cash. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:54:25 -0500 From: Lori Rehfeldt Subject: So what did you think of those METS Loved the Christmas Tree...how come all is quiet on the Ellen list...did I disconnect myself from the list? If so, how do I get back on. So, what are the rumors Ellen Morgan heard about Ellen Degeneres?? I was wondering if they are RELATED? I have my sneaking suspicion...call me observant. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 14:01:29 -0000 From: Suzanne Shmagin Subject: ME as a good luck charm Hey there listers: Quick reminder: ME's on Leno TONIGHT--get those VCR's ready! AAUGH! I'm sooo jealous of everyone who gets to go to ME's final shows, but I'm glad you're all keeping me posted. I swear, the minute I turn 16 I'm going to take my car out and follow ME on tour--that is if she's going to tour then. Well, I'll have to settle for concert reports and updates. Just a quick note--I have a major biology test today and I'm wearing my AWESOME ME shirt for good luck. It has seemed to do the trick a couple of times before. Well, that's all for now. Have a great one! Sincerely, Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:05:44 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: TWIO & My Address Hi, all-- Just a quick couple of notes: 1) I had the TV on ABC last night (12/18) as I was getting ready to go to beddie-bye...there was a half-baked late-nite soap opera thingy on called "The City." As I walked through the living room, I heard the strains of TWIO. One of the characters evidently had a history of breast cancer and had found signs of a recurrance. TWIO played in the background as the viewers heard the character's thoughts out-loud. 2) My AOL address (TheClthd1) is no longer active. I went for nearly two weeks being unable to connect via the local modems (including being inadvertantly kicked out of my account because I wrote and complained) and I just couldn't see having to pay AO-Hell *and* fork over $$ to log on through Champaign, Illinois. I'm working on getting another account at home, but I'm not sure yet which provider I'll use. Ah, the joys of a major provider upgrading their "service" without upgrading their equipment! Phbt.... later, jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:08:11 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Girl Dancing In Third Row On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, John Miller wrote: > BTW, during the third set, I could see one woman standing on her > chair in about the 3rd row, probably right behind where Rhondda > and Jib were standing... she danced on her chair all during the > third set... Hmmmm, SueD called me before the show to gloat, I mean inform me of her third row tickets for this show and I can vouch that she is quite the dancer! > , were *enjoying* watching her dance ... she was very good! Oh well I guess that blows my theory. SueD usually screams out her "Look Out Whit Girl Dancing" alert when she starts cutting rug. :] Love you SueD, can I still have my Christmas present? Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:27:54 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin/live album/book stores On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, Elaine Naiman wrote: > > >This is true only for those of us who believe in G-d. Who judges if > >one doesn't believe? > >Elaine > >> ...and was wondering...if you don't believe than why does one Seem to have left off some of my last post which went something like this: ...and was wondering...if you don't believe than why does one need/care if they are judged. Not a direct statement to anyone just food for thought for the entire list. Sorry if you felt their was a personal attack in what I posted but there really wasn't anymore to it than that. You posed a thoughtful question to which I found myself asking the one I did above. > And I thought you'd twitted my address because I had the audacity to > tell you that both you and the photographer should have asked > permission before posting pictures on your web page. Not sure how this coorelates to my post to the list about judgement. Twitted your address? If your referring to my blocking of your e-mail to my personal in-box that was because I didn't have time/desire for flame mail. Sorry to the rest of the list for any unpleasantries which may have arisen from my post. Be assuered that no one was being attacked by me. Those who know me from the list know that I don't have that sort of spirit. Happy Holidays all, Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:52:27 -0500 From: "Eidel Lisa Consultant (Temp)" Subject: On December 17th , Marcy Kunst wrote: >I got Melissa's water glass after the show. My gf asked how I knew it >was Melissa's, and I just said I KNEW. I shared the water. It had 2 >floaters in it, I drank 1 and saved 1. What the heck is a "floater"? Lisa:) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:11:06 +0100 From: Holger Wahlen Subject: CD tips '95/'96 ... a bit international I'm having a bit of trouble to put together my favorite albums of 1996, since most of the ones I got this year were released in 1995 already; so I'll allow last year's releases to appear as well, as long as I bought them this year. As there have been enough American names brought up already (the only one of my favorites I haven't seen yet is "People" by Babe The Blue Ox), I'm going to restrict myself to two albums (at most) per country. So here's the list ... 1) Mylene Farmer - Anamorphosee (France) 2) K's Choice - Paradise In Me (Belgium) 3) Garbage - Garbage (USA) 4) The Corrs - Forgiven, Not Forgotten (Ireland) 5) Laura Pausini - Le cose che vivi (Italy) 6) Jule Neigel Band - Sphinx (Germany) 7) Rosenstolz - Objekt der Begierde (Germany) 8) No Doubt - Tragic Kingdom (USA) 9) Terrorvision - Regular Urban Survivors (UK) 10) Sophie Zelmani - Sophie Zelmani (Sweden) Holger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:17:04 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: DON'T FORGET LENO TONIGHT... Don't forget that MLE is going to be on Leno tonight...so Set your VCRs... Sonya ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:44:14 -0800 From: Sprite at castles Subject: SF Show! Hi all, Dani here de lurking to tell you that seeing melissa gave me shivers of emotion...She stirred tears and laughter from with in..I am so glad I didn't miss her! Her voice over powered the Cow Palace, it was great to actually hear and understand the lyrics.(g)...God she rocked!!I have been listening to all the reports for the last year, but she is something that you just have to experience to get her full impact!!WOW...I saw many purple shirts..my hubby Ben (6'4"200#) met a few of you, one of you had a santa hat on, he is bad at names, but hi anyways, Ben really enjoyed the show, I talked him into the tickets as my x-mas present, he had my 14 year old buy me the tape Yes I Am last year,and Benset me up on this list, thanks Ben,the stage setting with the tapestry and manikins, and chandelier??? Can someone explain to me the significance?? Then the change to those pictures in the back, I got a few, the clouds, hand on breast, sun, heartbeat, and the sphere instead of the chandler!! What am I missing, besides the point, I am sure it is a Da!! I would love to run into some of the peoples that heard her live on the radio, and confirm the fact that the band WAS suspended from the ceiling. (g) And ME gave us permission to take the next day off, like it was Saturday! Instead of Wednesday. Anyways those of you that haven't seen her yet,LOOK OUT, and those of you that have,keep smiling I know I am! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:09:01 -0500 From: Dan Cohen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Tacoma On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Marcy Kunst wrote her report on the Tacoma concert. Marcy, I loved your story! Some of my comments on Marcy's comments: > Um, that thing Melissa does with her guitar, looks like making love, > is that what y'all call the body song? I've seen her do that 6 times this year, and for the life of me, I'm missing something. She's kind of sensual when she lays down with her guitar, I like it, too. But maybe men don't see it??? But there's no doubt, the girls do!! > She did a Janis imitation I wish, how I wish, I could have heard that. I love Melissa's voice, and Janis knocks me out. The combo has gotta be good. Can't wait for the movie. > I sure do like it when she rock-n-rolls and jumps around and does her tuff act. Yeah! > Oh, and I like the song ICHBY, it's message, > but have had a hard time listening to it > because the anger is so intense. Now you're talking about my favourite song-with-a-message. This is a message I've believed in since I grew up in the 1960's. I don't hear the anger so much, maybe because I feel it from inside as well as external. But it's so intense! > She leaned into the audience at 3 dif. locations from the stage, > and let people touch her.... I was close to her, > and touched her hair and her back Stop! you're making me totally envious! At the Dallas concert, I felt Melissa hands. But I so much wanted to feel her body while she was singing. *sigh* >Don't know how to explain this part of the whole experience either, but >it seems like somehow experiencing a Melissa concert made me fall more >in love with my gf. I think the explanation is easy: Melissa's music is about relationships. Then the intensity captures your spirit for a while. And the message becomes woven into your soul, while your feelings grow and expand. Well that's what I get, and my poor wife wonders what hit me. >Well, more than enough said. No, it's great! You leave me breathless. > Ebullient loquacity from a newbie. Hmmm. I wish more Listers would use that "loquacity" stuff, I love reading posts about Melissa concerts and get-togethers. -- Dan Cohen in Toronto [email protected] http://www.canscape.com/dancohen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:28:21 -0500 From: "D. Jessamyn Scott Breed" Subject: TimD and the CD Handoff! Hey All! I'm still too speechless to be even try to say something coherent..but here goes my try: I just got a call from Tim Dunker and he let me know that after last night's Sacramento concert, he finally got to hand Melissa the Birthday CD-ROM!!!! According to Tim, he handed it to her and told her that it was an international gift from our Listserve, etc. She was very happy and curious about it (opened it up, etc.) Hopefully she will have a chance to hook up with a Macintosh soon! In the note to her (tucked inside the CD), I mentioned the card that we had also sent, about the signatures from all corners of the globe, etc...so she does know that we put it together. How neat that her birthday gift made it to her in time for Christmas! Thanks again to Tim! and everyone who made the CD so special!!!! Our Lady of Etheridge knows how much she is revered by our List!!! Still on Cloud9 Jesse PS. Hey BAB & D.J.DeMoaner! Take good care of SueD, ok? and good luck pulling off the lightshow! PSS. Don't forget MLE on Leno tonight => ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:46:17 -0500 From: David Johnson Subject: Re: ME as a good luck charm Suzanne Shmagin wrote: > > Hey there listers: > > Quick reminder: > ME's on Leno TONIGHT--get those VCR's ready! Aargh!!! I'm getting cable TOMORROW!!! Waaahhh!!!! Take care, all. Glenna (going off to pout about missing ME on Leno...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:49:30 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re: TimD and the CD Handoff! Jesse wrote: >I'm still too speechless to be even try to say something coherent..but >here goes my try: > >I just got a call from Tim Dunker and he let me know that after last >night's Sacramento concert, he finally got to hand Melissa the Birthday >CD-ROM!!!! I heard this news last night and was hoping Tim would be able to reach you by phone soon... what an exciting list-project, and I loved being able to contribute something to it's completion... Jesse, you're a gem! I received my copy of the CD-ROM from Jesse about two months ago, then Alma and I rushed to Andrea's place to view it on her Mac... wonderful! All the treasures which listers provided... an audio clip from Mardi and Rose (complete with goosebumps whenever I hear it), many poems, stories, and photographs (including a BAB-party at my San Jose apartment), and a wonderful video of Joyce Luck and David, her cute son... Joyce, I think *you're* cute too . Jesse did an excellent job filling her CD-ROM with just about every feature imaginable, while creating a warm and personal treasure for us to share with Melissa. Jesse, I hope you got an 'A' on the project! And Tim, I'm sorry I missed you in San Francisco... so glad you're here to provide that special 'personal' liaison between the list and Melissa. I hope we see you in the audience on tonight's LENO... I'll be taping! John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 11:16:52 -0800 From: edgy Subject: kd appearance in LA (NMEC) No ME content but I think that there are some kd fans around here. Last Tuesday kd showed up at a little coffee house (Little Frida's) here in LA to provide backup for the scheduled singers. Allison "And it's one more night in Hollywood [email protected] It's been so long since I've seen the ocean Guess I should...." -Adam Duritz, "A Long December" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:01:41 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: 5 cds for 96 On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Allison Fraiberg wrote: > Inspired, as always, by Deb, here are my faves of '96: LOL! Flattery will get you everywhere! > 1. Wild Colonials, "This Can't Be Life" What a shock! :) Honestly, their single (saw the video on 120 MINUTES) left me cold. > Without a doubt, my fave of the year and the best show I saw all year as > well. Side note: September 67 was scheduled to open for them last week but > didn't. Interesting. When I saw them 2-3 weeks ago the said they had only one other date before the holidays, in Baltimore. Do check 'em out if you get a chance. > 2. Paula Cole, "This Fire" > Also a wonderful live show I thought. Always wonderful live, but I don't like this CD nearly as much as her first. > 3. Aimee Mann, "I'm With Stupid" > Proof that irony isn't dead. Aimee, Ani, Alanis, and Melissa: 4 women I wouldn't want to piss off (though Shawn Colvin's "Get Out of This House" puts her in the running)! > 4. Sheryl Crow, "Shery Crow" > If for nothing else than her ability to sneer well. It's good, but I prefer the first CD in this case as well. > 5. Jane Siberry, "Maria" (1995) Great CD and an amazing tour. I was mucho disappointed to find that she had canceled her scheduled Xmas concert tonight at the 9:30 Club. :( > Allison ***pleae note new email address for those who care*** I do, I do! :) -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ______________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: Once Blue, Once Blue Listen to it at http://www.emirec.com/onceblue ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 18 Dec 1996 to 19 Dec 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Fri Dec 20 00:00:59 1996 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:00:21 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 19 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:46:22 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Misc. (SMEC) John Miller wrote: >That night she closed with a cover of 'Let's Get It On'..... WHOO! The >memory of her singing that song just brought a rush of goosebumps . She *closed* with LGIO? That's unusual. Her version of that song has the same affect on me... whew!! She's *got* to put that LTWID/LGIO segue onto the live CD! =-=-=<>=-=-= [email protected] wrote: >Please help! My husband swears that ME sings the song on a new Cadillac >commercial. I'm not sure who it is, but I am sure it's not Melissa. I >think the name of the song might be "Unchain My Heart." I've heard it many times, and I'm certain it's not MLE. But it is either Janis Joplin or a sound-alike. =-=-=<>=-=-= Tracey Thacker wrote: >I'd far rather cast my vote for any of my top 5 of the year, Patti Rothberg's >"Between the 1 and the 9" (did someone else mention that one?) Yeah. Didn't do much for me at the listening booth (though I loved the single, "Inside," but maybe I need to give it another listen. >Bush's >"Razorblade Suitcase", "Hello" by Poe, (yes, I'm an alterna-head most of the >time) As I am some of the time (you need to check out the Josephine Wiggs Experience!). I saw the video for the title track of Poe's CD -- cool song! =-=-=<>=-=-= "John \"Taylor\" Yezeguielian" wrote: >ME isn't your favorite this year? You disloyal B******, you're not >worthy, you're not worthy!!! (Just kidding, mostly.) 1989 was probably the only year she had a shot at being my favorite -- there's just too much great music out there. If she's had your favorite album every year she's released one, you need to get out more, listen to more music! =-=-=<>=-=-= Elaine Naiman wrote: >Deb wrote: > >>>Hmmm...how good *is* Tori with a whip? >>>> You'll never know! >>Is that a specific "you" or a general "you"? ;-) >>> General. Mostly. ;-) > >And what does one have to do to be one of the lucky few that do get to >find out? Buying me the live MLE CD for my b-day would be a good start. :) >>> I was shocked to find that Wilco's recent double CD has 36 minutes >>> on one and 40 on the other > >That could have easily fit on one CD. Any ideas why they made it a >double? Are the 2 CDs drastically different? Is one studio and one >live? No reason that I can tell, but I've barely listened to it at this point. >>> Subject: CDs of the Year >What? No Melissa? Deb, I'm shocked! Yeah, right. :) -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-15 18:14 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ___________________________________________________________________________ "I build each one of my songs out of glass/ so you could see me inside them I suppose/ or you could just leave the image of me/ in the background I guess/ and watch your own reflection superimposed." - Ani DiFranco, "Overlap" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:18:24 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: NMEC: superstores and "censorship" Maggie at avalon wrote: >Back from seattle, and crawling up on my soapbox to play "devils >advocate"... And you did a great job. And I'm throwing in my 2 cents even though you don't need the help. :) Hang in for the compromise position at the end. >First, there are a *lot* of areas that would not be served at all if it >wasn't for these chains. A very important point. Why compete for customers when they can fill a niche not yet served? I can't imagine that book-buyers are so rare that they have to move into an established market to be successful. But I think there's a natural overlap between the locations of the most avid book-buyers and the locations of specialty bookstores. What bookstore, chain or otherwise, would ignore that? I don't think that's predatory, it's just common sense. You don't need an MBA to follow the logic. Jacky wrote: >>After the small specialty bookstores have been driven out of business, >>the small publishers which publish this literature will be forced to >>close. This means that eventually, the availability of non-mainstream >>literature will be greatly reduced and limited to only those few titles >>which remain profitable for large publishers and booksellers. Most products without sufficient demand fail. If there was sufficient demand for these smaller publisher's books, it would either be enough to keep the small bookstores in business, or enough to force chains to carry them. Back to Maggie: >Some chains are better than others, and price is not always the issue. For me, convenience is the issue. Borders is around the corner. Lambda Rising and Lammas (women's bookstore) are both downtown at Dupont Circle, which is fun on occasion but not convenient for casual shopping. Computer Literacy Bookshop (http://www.clbooks.com) has the most amazing selection of computer books I've ever seen, but it's in the incredibly bland and congested Tyson's Corner area. I'll often order from them online and pay for shipping just to support them without the hassle of going there to shop -- an example of how a specialty shop can differentiate itself and stay on top of the chains. >And the same thing has been said about the record (oops, I mean CD...dating >myself) industry, restaurants, grocery stores, etc for years. All of these >have been taken over by chains. And in some ways, selection has been >limited. In other places, it has gotten better. But specialty grocers, >music stores, etc, still survive in many places. And how about specialty grocery chains? The Whole Foods Market is a thriving health food chain. I don't know of any other health food stores in my area, so this chain has filled a niche for me, and taken business only from another chain (Safeway). >This is because stores >*don't* just compete on price. They also compete on selection ...and convenience, and value-added services (i.e., coffee bars in bookshops, gift wrapping, music and books in the same place etc.). >I'm not >thrilled with Walmart's philosphy, but they *do* have the right to choose >what to sell and what not to sell in their stores. And artists/labels have >the choice of whether or not to cater to Walmart. Some do, some don't, and >it all comes down to whether or not they want to lose those sales. Exactly. And if there is demand for CDs that Walmart doesn't carry, some little independent is gonna make money off of Walmart's policies. Now, with all of that said, here's how I mitigate my patronage of the convenient chain bookstores at the expense of Lammas (Lambda Rising is quite healthy even without my assistance)... every year I *give* Lammas an approximation of the money they would have earned had I bought my books there. Just a donation, to help them out, and to keep them around, cause I think those women are providing a valuable service. I'm sure your local bookstore (music store, coffee shop, grocery store) would welcome a similar contribution, if you are in a position to offer it. =-=-=<>=-=-= John Taylor wrote: >On the bookstores thing: As a published author, I have mixed feelings >about chains. They are a godsend in that they draw a much larger >following and can help promote a book. The point seems valid that it's >their right to sell what they like, but if they don't sell it because >it's a "fag" book, then that's censorship caused by biggotry. As an author, you should be particularly sensitive to the meaning of censorship, yet you've cheapened it by using it in the context above. Censorship is a loss of freedom -- if, say, bookstores were not allowed to carry gay books, or authors not allowed to write them. It would be a similar loss of freedom if bookstores were *forced* to carry books their owners/managers don't want to carry (for *whatever* reason). -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-15 18:18 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I know there is strength/ in the differences between us/ and I know there is comfort/ where we overlap" - Ani DiFranco, "Overlap" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:56:55 -0500 From: JENNIFER SASS Subject: bookstores again I have been keeping up with the bookstore thread and had another thought to add. I work at Borders and they do carry a huge selection of books. I also shop at a local bookstore that specializes in gay/lesbian books, but sometimes it is faster and easier to get books from Borders. I don;t think that chain bookstores are hurting the gay community. In fact, my g/f is recieving health insurance, using my discount and my sole beneficary on my life insurance through work. Not to mention the excellent non discrimination policy that is outlined to every employee. Just some more info.... Jennifer Sass [email protected] [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:25:28 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: Tac2/Portland OK, so we have another convert! When I told my gf (Kim) I wanted to go to these 4 Melissa concerts, we had some long discussions about my compulsiveness. (Is that a word?) But now that she has seen the wonder herself, she said she can see how people can quit their jobs and follow her around. YAY!!! (I think). I only drove past 3 of my destinations when I returned to work Tues., and only past 1 on Wed., cuz I had YLS in the tape deck and was having an out of body experience. OK, a bit more about Tacoma, then I'll write about Portland. In Tacoma there was only one female security guard. She came up to me and whispered not to tell others, and told me when to know Melissa was leaving to head to the B-stage. She also mistakenly referred to Karen as my partner. =) Oh, well, I thought it was cute. She was not the same security guard who threatened to take Karen's camera away +/or kick her out. We got 25 photos anyway, tho Karen's were with the wrong speed film (kinda cool some, like show the motion of her swinging her hair, eg). I had given her a roll of 800ASA but she didn't put it in her camera, and she now is telling me she'll regret that decision the rest of her life. Hmmm. Y'all prolly already have mentioned how when she sings "as the taxi pulls away" in AUK she raises her arm, then brings it down to point out in front of her, and while she does this white lights follow the direction she's pointing. Hard to explain, but it looks like a car pulling away. She did this at both shows. She's so cool. Portland, she walks out on the stage, struts up to the mic. looks directly into my big green eyes (2nd row seats) and is astounded, momentarily struck speechless (singless?) by their beauty, and the crowd sings the first line of IRLY instead of her. She then recovers, laughs, and says " I can't believe I forgot the first line, something about Marcy, uh, I mean mangos." We did have 2nd row seats. My friends are lucky. Joan joined MEIN at my urging so she could get good concert seats. And she got ROW 2!!!!! I immediately took them from her, as I had row 38 this time. She said she was going to give it to me anyhow. (She knows what a fan I am, yes I am). Dilemma: sit with gf Kim in row 38, or sit in row 2 with Joan's ticket. This really was agonizing, I got more and more torn as we approached the Coliseum. One of my other friends who had the other 2nd row ticket noticed a guy who had extra tickets, would you believe row 2? So I exchanged my 38's for his 2's and a small transfer surcharge and my dilemma was solved. I mostly felt like to not take advantage of this offer would be like spitting in the eye of my higher power. Tho 38 was right by the b-stage. I had 2 other friends there with me who had made the trek from Boise, but they had wandered away before this angel appeared. Tho they were in row 14 or so (MEIN). I noticed in Tacoma that no one had an orange "U." So I spent most of the time between the Tacoma and Portland shows looking for something to make U with. Finally found some orange poster board, white on the other side. I folded it in half, cut out 2 sets of U's about 18" high, put heart stickers on them (get it?, love you), took my best shoelaces out of my shoes, strung one thru each one, and hung U around my neck. So I could have my hands free, and not have to wear something on my head (I had thought of putting a smaller U on a hat). Kim was encouraging and supporting me the whole way, but when it came down to it she wouldn't wear the other one. She's kinda shy. So Joan wore the other one, about 10 seats down to my right (is that stage left?) My seats were center, aisle. When Melissa started singing I kinda waved my U at her and SHE WINKED AT ME!!!!! WOW. Then she started moving to her left on the stage, playing, and looking at the audience. She saw Joan's U and did a double take and looked back at me, and I sorta waved my hand signalling we were together. Cool, cool, cool. I thought she looked happier, more rested, more energy in Portland. She definately did a better version of making love to her guitar, IMHO. I think when she went home between concerts Julie must have reminded her of a few of the details. Awesome. There just aren't enough adjectives to describe it. Yummmy. The large venue didn't bother me at all. I LOVE ROCK-N-ROLL!!! Ooops, sorry. My voice is still hoarse, I yelled a lot before and after the concert. =) Her voice is kinda husky, y'know. Mmm. To go with her strength. Tho she also shows her vulnerability, emotions up there. She was talking about wondering where that woman she sings about in SP is now, what she's doing. She said something like "she certainly knows what I'm doing." I had learned from my first concert, and had better timing, and therefore better position at the b-stage, and then at the front stage again. It's hard for me to know how much she wants us to reach for her, touch her. I guess I tend to err on the side of respect. I think she likes to be the one to decide how far to go. There I go, mindreading again. I was very close to her at the b-stage, and did touch her pant leg. But she kept sticking it right there and looking at me! She only leaned into the crowd at one site on the front stage in Portland. I wondered if this had anything to do with the woman who jumped on stage in Tacoma. There was also a woman who approached the stage aggressively early in the Portland show, and had tons of security dealing with her, making her go away, and Melissa seemed to be watching that whole thing. Kim thought it looked like the same woman as in Tacoma. But I did get to "shake" her hand as she moved across the front of the stage as she was leaving. What struck me, besides her strength, was how small her hands are. I'm 5'4'', and used to women's hands, but hers felt sooo small. There were some kids near me during the encores. (Actually I already forgot if this part was in Portland or Tacoma).The older I get the youger everyone else looks, but I bet they were 16 years old.The male said he wished he was closer to the stage he really wanted to touch her. Stawberry blond, sweet, his gf looked like his sister. Then when Melissa went by touching people's hands, I saw him with his female friend on his back/shoulders, and Melissa made a point of leaning way out into the crowd so she could touch them. Like I said, she's so cool. Did you notice how wild the crowd gets during ATWTH? Especially with the "I wanna roll you in sawdust till they run us both out" line. There were peanuts for sale, too, like a carnival. We also got smarter with the camera, got all 36 shots. We would kinda crouch when we took the pic., and kept passing the camera around to each other. Hope no security is reading this. Kim asked me in Tacoma how I knew the water glass was Melissa's. I don't think she was conviced it was. So...she got up next to the stage right after the concert, and yelled to the stage-hand to give her a cup! She had her eye on a specific one all eve. I guess, and made sure she got one she had seen Melissa drink out of. And of course she gave it directly to me. And I shared the water. One of Joan's friends ran up to me and wanted a sip (her first mle concert, only out about 1 yr. after 20 yrs married to a man). And also that friend's friend's 12 yo daughter. And another friend bought a mle hat for her gf who couldn't be there and who collects hats. And this friend had me pour some of the water on the hat, to annoint it or make it closer to Melissa anyway. No we're not insane. This is normal behavior for those who have recently spent time in the presence of you know who. (Melissa). It's kinda weird being back in Boise, at work. Forgetting that co-workers might not understand why I'm so excited that mle winked at me. But I also showed some of my photos to some people at work, and a (straight) co-worker said "she's so cool, I think it's really great that she came out." And I feel like Melissa respects that I'm here, doing what I was called to do, and being an all american girl. It's nice to be back under the CLEAR BLUE sky. I saw a bald eagle perched on a tree above the Boise River downtown. And my cats (Stella and Surely) really missed me. Hate to end this note...it's like putting away the memory. Thanks to all of you, who made this whole experience much more wonderful. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:54:02 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: floaters I tried to e-mail Lisa(?) directly but it came back to me as undeliverable, so...floaters are what I call food particles that wash back from the mouth into the drinking glass. If the truth be known, I didn't drink the floater on purpose, but once it was in my mouth, I figured what the heck. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:02:19 +0000 From: greg hawthorne Subject: Jay Leno Hello All, Don not forget Melissa will be on Jay Leno tonight. Get your taped ready:) Danielle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:23:35 -0700 From: Allison Fraiberg Subject: leno spoiler this is the short version, because we have to run out for a quick bite to eat. Jib, rhondda, and Allison here from the inimitable edgy abode. we just got back from the leno taping - tim was there, too, but he's staying elsewhere. nothing like red fringe vinyl - but at least allison was impressed that the red of her jacket didn't clash with MLE's red (and white) guitar. jib noticed that tim is in one of the sweeping camera shots. you can pretty much guess which song she did - no, it's not a x-mas one. btw, the NBC security confiscated rhondda's personalized santa hat (and those belonging to 2 other guys behind us in line), so she had to get it out of hock after the show. well, not much more to say right now, because our tummies are growling. more later... Jib, rhondda, and allison ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 21:49:00 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: floaters > What the heck is a "floater"? Where I'm from, it's something (usually unpleasant, like a bit o' spit) floating on the top of the contents of a glass ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 19 Dec 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Fri Dec 20 14:32:14 1996 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:31:36 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 19 Dec 1996 to 20 Dec 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:13:13 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: Doing Seattle right! Well, I completed my first semester of law school (and lived to tell about it,) but I had to watch my inbox grow to over 500 emails during the finals period. I'm slowly but surely catching up. Back on Dec. 16, "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" wrote: >Hey Sue D., congrats on the guitar and pick! You are having quite a >time out there Sue. I think you really deserve it the way you've been >traveling around this year and all.....hey about a standing "ovation" >for the lil' lady! Sounds like "a plausible" idea to me. >Kare, who can't wait to get to Florida to see her pun pal Michelle. Right back at you, Kare. Unfortunately, there won't be any concerts for us to attend together, but I have enough MLE on video to keep us busy for a few days. Michelle, who is pretty worried because her cable has gone out three times so far while taping the Leno show. "It's such a delicate distraction With just a hint of satisfaction" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:35:32 -0500 From: "Marcy J. Goldstein" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 18 Dec 1996 to 19 Dec 1996 - Special issue Saw ME on LENO ..... Melissa ROCKS! Gotta love her !! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 23:39:32 -0600 From: "John \"Taylor\" Yezeguielian" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 19 Dec 1996 Deb, In your post, you sought to correct my use of the term "censorship." According to the Oxford American Dictionary, a sensor is "a person authorized to examine letters, books, films, etc. and remove or ban anything regarded as harmful." Censorship is defined as "to subject to such examination or removal" That said, I'll note that many groups of books are carried by these chains, even though those titles may interest far less than 10% of the population. One might even go so far as to say that MOST titles would be of interest to less than 10% of the population. So if a company could find a book which would at least catch the attention of that large a portion of the population, one would think they'd carry it, promote it even. Yet most of the major chains do not do so. B. Dalton is the only one I can think of that consistently and openly carries gay titles. Why don't the rest? Because they're effectively banning what they deem may be harmful - harmful to their public image, etc. They don't carry gay titles because they either are anti or indifferent, or are fearful of the flack they might receive if they did. So you'll say "Okay, so they're protecting their asses. Can you blame them?" Yes and no. I can certainly understand why they might choose not to carry controversial material. But that justification doesn't make it any less of a censorship. Whenever one chooses not to do something for reasons which involve biggotry, etc., they are being unjustly discriminatory. Earlier, some argued that the stores had the right to sell whatever they want. = Perhaps. But how do you feel about an entity which denies us in this fashion? If a record store refused to carry ME material because "She's a dyke" or "We don't want any hassles from the Antis," I doubt you'd feel inclined to patronize them. Why is this any different? They're communicating the same message, just not verbalizing it. Why else would they not carry a product with a relatively large, loyal market, especially when such materials are hard for the public to come by? Censorship? I think so. It, and biggotry, come in many forms, and some are not as blatant or obvious as others. My money will go to the stores who don't deny or shun me and my brothers and sisters. As for me getting out more, you may be right. I don't usually listen to radio or much new material, concerned that I may unintentionally pick up someone else's riff or phrase and write it into a tune. Melissa is certainly deserving of being held up for her excellence, though, both as a songwriter and a performer. I may pick up on some of her style too, but I'm more likely to recognize it as hers, cause I know all her songs by heart. So I've got "only" a few hundred CDs, and leave the radio off most of the time, only hearing those few which have been lauded for their excellent lyrics or overall style. Oh my God, (see, it's possible to type the name without getting a - in the middle,) I may be censoring all those other artists I'm not listening to! Nah, no intention, no crime. Yours, John -- = Impossible: An opinion, not a fact. http://galstar.com/~falconer HOMEPAGE REVAMPED Sat.12/7/96 - Come check it out! mailto:[email protected] =A91996 John "Taylor" Yezeguielian - All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 02:00:14 -0500 From: Toni Robinson Subject: LGIO & Missing Leno >John Miller wrote: >>That night she closed with a cover of 'Let's Get It On'..... WHOO! The >>memory of her singing that song just brought a rush of goosebumps . You got to see her do that! My eyes are turning greener by the minute. >>From: Deb >She *closed* with LGIO? That's unusual. Her version of that song has the >same affect on me... whew!! She's *got* to put that LTWID/LGIO segue onto >the live CD! I know exactly what you mean.. I've added this cut to most of the tapes I've made recently.. no favorite tape would be complete without it, but getting a really good copy of it would be great! :-) >From: greg hawthorne >Subject: Jay Leno >Hello All, >Don not forget Melissa will be on Jay Leno tonight. Get your taped >ready:) Damn..its almost 2am..and I completely forgot about this. How was it? Toni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 08:14:00 -0500 From: Deb Subject: NMEC: URL to bookstore article Thought this might be of interest to those participating in (or at least reading!) the superstore thread: http://www.hotwired.com/news/story/1028.html. It's a HotWIRED news story about small bookstores finding a niche online. -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ______________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: Once Blue, Once Blue Listen to it at http://www.emirec.com/onceblue ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 08:21:26 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Quiet As A Church Mouse! Pooh climbed into the blue sled to drive one more day to a place called work. Snow was glistening in the lane and sparkling like diamonds in the headlights. She wished she could gather together all the Melisters and give them a big Merry Christmas hug. A year of touring and being away from home probably has Melissa wanting to sit down at home in her big easy chair and just listen to the quiet. So this is my wish for her: That the house is as quiet as a church mouse and Julie is by her side and together they have a warm and loving Christmas and the warmth and love they share grows stronger every day and that the baby shall soon bring more joy to their lives and that they know that life is good. For just as we see the rainbow shining bright through the icicleles that hang on the rooftops the magic and wonderment of life shall soon bless them and they will know that their love is everlasting. May you all be wrapped in the arms of love this season and if you do not have a loved one know that you are loved and that you are not alone for out here in cyberspace "Santa Pooh" is thinking of you and holds you tightly as you drift off into dreams of stockings hung by the fireside and memories may be all you have but they too can warm your heart and make you smile. "So Merry Christmas To All And To All A Good Night!" P.S. Remember those without and share your blessings. Much Warmth, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:02:52 +0000 From: Margaret McArdle Subject: The Finale To all catching the last few concerts,please please post all about it for those of us not fortunate enough to be there,enjoy what unfortunately could be the last Live gig until '98. Thanks Margaret (whose heart & mind will be most definately be in California this weekend) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 08:40:41 -0500 From: Tina Chambers Subject: ME-a non-story?/Spirituality Well!!! So I'm at the check-out line of my local grocery story, when US magazine catches my eyes: "The 96 biggest stories of 96" Hmm, (I think to myself), with all the furor the "Cypheridge" baby caused in the media, chances are...so I get it, get home, start reading and: -almost- nothing!!! Michael Jackson's impending fatherhood was story #1, Madonna's baby #2. There was a little blurb (story #71 !!!), and I quote (without permission, as usual ): Be fruitful and multiply By some unfathomable process, women in Hollywood -- among them Melanie Griffith, Annette Bening, Julie Cypher -- got pregnant or had babies this year. The big question at Mortons: So, who's representing the stork? Melanie Griffith??? Isn't she married to that Antonio Banderas guy? What would be so unfathomable about that? I don't quite get it. And before you think that US might be too hip to make a big deal out of lesbianism, Ellen is story #19: Don't ask, won't tell Ellen DeGeneres, in a one-woman campaign for Middle Eastern rights, came out on Letterman, Conan O'Brien and Rosie O'Donnell as Lebanese after it was rumored that her TV character would come out of the closet. It must haven been the thespian in her that made her say to O'Donnell "I pick up sometimes that you might be Lebanese, too" Hmm..after reading -that- little attempt at witticism, perhaps it's not such a bad thing they neglected to say who the *other* parent of Julie's baby is? In less wordly matters, Debbie wrote: >I understand that I cannot please all of you when writing to a group, >(and mentioning God) but I do realize that I can develop more >sensitivity in how I say things and so be less offensive. No matter of sensitivity can get you through this highly volatile subject without offending someone. The religious beliefs of those that previously shared them with the list (wouldn't know about any others, obviously ) ran the full range from (in alphabetical order, so as to not infere any rankings) agnosticism, atheism, christianity, judaism and paganism, and there are probably many more. Perhaps the best way to steer away from controversy would be to not dwelve too deeply into the subject. I don't think anyone would flame you for simply voicing your belief, but once people get the feeling you're trying to "convert" them or imply that theirs have less value..well, things can get touchy . Tina ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:44:31 BST From: Sarah Lorimer Subject: Re: Concert reviews for 1996 (Semi-MEC) Hi all... Since all the cool people are sending in their end-of-year lists, here's the year in the review for the Central London-Area Bunch, jointly by Sarah & Kate. In some particular order: 1) Ani di Franco, at LA2 in December and Dingwall's in July. KB --What can I say? Ani is so sweet and cute, with that big grin every time she steps back from the mike. Some of her (mainly American) fans really lack in concert behaviour, however. Although I only went into self-appointed concert police mode once. ;) SL -- Yep. I never did quite believe Ani was "not an angry girl" but seems she was right afterall. Enchanting. And nice seeing Sara Lee on bass too. 2) Pretenders, Union Chapel, December. KB -- Chrissie rules! How many singers have that kind of longevity, and still look as good in 1996 as they did in 1979? I saw 50% of their shows in 1996. SL -- Great show, lovely venue (despite being freezing!) and is Chrissie cool or what ?! Very witty too. Disappointing that she didn't do "Smelly Cat", though... :) KB -- Although she had a good reason why ... 3) Dar Williams, the Jazz Cafe in November and the Purcell Room in June. KB -- A new favourite, who I hope will come back to London at least as many times next year as this. Her audience doubled with every show, but we were in the second front row for the first show and the first row for the second show. SL -- Definitely a must-see. Better live than recorded, IMHO. Tells a good story. 4) Shawn Colvin, Hanover Grand, November SL -- Shawn's new to me and I thoroughly enjoyed this. Probably one of my fave concerts of the year (despite the rude jerks for whom I stepped aside to let pass but who stood in my spot instead). KB -- I discovered Shawn Colvin while I was living in Switzerland, and all but worn out her CDs, but this was my first change to see her live. I didn't want the concert to ever end. But I did want to punch a couple of people's tickets. 5) Mary-Chapin Carpenter and Lyle Lovett, Wembley Arena, September KB -- Sadly, the second worst of the shows I attended this year, mainly due to really sucky seats at Wembley arena rather than the quality of the performers. MCC, we love ya! But it's always September somewhere on the net. ;) SL -- "Sucky" seats ??!! Anyway, it wasn't helped by the fact that MCC played mainly slow songs. And I missed the rapport which she had with the audience when I saw her in '95 (at a smaller venue). 6) Bryan Adams and Melissa Etheridge, Wembley Stadium, July KB -- Why would Melissa's (or anyone else's) goal be to play stadia? Maybe I'm spoiled, but I don't see much point to seeing artists in anything larger than a few thousand people. Okay show, anyhow. SL -- Yeah, not bad and it was nice to see Melissa so obviously enjoying her duet with Bryan. But...well, everyone knows the stadia vs small venue argument.... 7) -- Tracey Chapman, Shepherds Bush, May KB -- Nice one, Trace. SL -- I wasn't expecting TC to have much of a stage presence, but was pleasantly surprised. Lovely voice and a very enjoyable show. KB -- The concert where I became known as "that woman who told me to 'shut up' " by some nimrod who obviously hadn't come to see the show. 8) k d lang, Wembley Arena, May KB -- Paradoxically, what should have been much worse seats at WA didn't preclude a fantastic run of shows by k d. She is way cool, even if I don't get front-row seats to see her anymore. SL -- I had no idea k d was such a funny person. Great show, awesome voice - and not a bad prelude to the Sarah-&-Kate story...! ;) 9) Maria McKee, Shepherd's Bush Empire, April SL -- MM once commented that everyone at her concerts seemed to wear round spectacles and be in their 30s...but I didn't go with Kate to this one! Fulfilled a personal ambition of mine to see MM live. Brilliant voice and powerful guitar - if she is a little odd! 10) Alanis Morrisette, Shepherd's Bush Empire, April KB -- She may be becoming an over-exposed teenybopper idol, but she put on a fantastic show. Thoroughly enjoyable. SL -- Absolutey. Surprisingly, she is brilliant live. I'd go see her again. But not with Kate - she kept making me fetch the beers. :) KB -- Hey, I was tired, and you're younger. Much. 11) Nathalie Merchant, Shepherd's Bush Empire, April KB -- the worst show I attended all year, IMHO. Unprofessional and silly, not enough to keep me awake up in the balcony. SL -- Nor to keep me there for the encore. I was downstairs and the audience was very noisy, which didn't help. Disappointing. 12) Bruce Springsteen, Royal Albert Hall, April SL -- A long-time idol of mine. A very different show, but equally enjoyable. Brucey-babes is definitely ageing, but he's ageing well! KB -- I had to be talked into it, but I really enjoyed the performance by Springsteen, especially the Tom Joad stuff. Mesmerising. 13) Joan Osborne, Shepherd's Bush Empire, February KB -- JO can go either way. A great voice, but does she have the versatility and material to last? SL -- I enjoyed this - except for the part where I got punched in the jaw in the ladies' loos. Poor li'l ol' me. And did I get any sympathy ? 14) Melissa Etheridge, Shepherd's Bush Empire, January KB -- Also the scene of the first-ever convocation of British listers. Most of you are awfully quiet these days - have you *all* defected to the US? A great show, in a small-enough arena for everyone to really get into it. SL -- Yep - it was nice to meet the other listers. A fab show. I was near the front at first and, boy, is Melissa a flirt or what ?!! Got points for buying Melissa's guitar techs (Trace & Zach) a beer afterwards, too. :) 15) She *did* sing, but it wasn't really a concert: Victoria Wood, Royal Albert Hall. October KB -- Victoria Wood. We were within *spitting* distance of the stage (literally). Too bad I'm not rich enough to afford to see the whole run. SL -- *Extremely* funny. I know she's pretty much unheard of in the US, but if you ever get the chance to hear some of her stuff, you must. ----------- KB -- Well, I guess I know where my time (and my money) has gone this year, but don't ask me where I'm going (next year). London, is it a cool place or what? SL -- That's us Brits for you. :) KB -- School's out for 1996, everyone have a safe and happy holiday break, and I'll see y'all when I finish moving house tomorrow. SL -- and I'll see you all if I live to tell the tale of helping Kate move house tomorrow. =:O Ta-ra! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:53:12 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Re: Where's Pooh Shirl asked the question: "Where is Pooh when you need her?" To this I must reply: Look in the eyes of children all sparkling with excitement on Christmas morn! You'll see me for I'll be there. When mean people say hurtfull things and you don't understand why, look beyond your hurt and know there is something going on deeper inside them and practice tolerance for harsh words returned only allows harsness to grow and fester. So I say go out in the cold and breath deep and release all the hurtfull feelings that these people cause, release them in the cold air and you can see the vapors disappear as if by magic then let it be for in our hearts is where the beauty lies and even the coldest heart cannot feel something in the eyes of a child who is innocent. We are a loving, kind, humorous group of people who are very passionate and no one can destroy that, no one! A long walk in the snow to clear ones thoughts does wonders now doesn't it! And where is Pooh when you need her? Look in the tracks in the snow and feel the warmth of your hand for she is walking right there beside you! :) Much warmth, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:59:55 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Meatloaf Girl Elaine wrote: > >> Her name : Ellen Foley! > > That was the first "Bat Out of Hell" album, not the 2nd - which is > what the question referred to. As for why, many people think the > woman who did sing sounded like Melissa (who was, in fact, asked to > sing on the album). Well, I checked on the Computer at the Record Store I work at (MUZE) and it said that Ellen Foley is on Both Bat out of Hell's. the MUZE gives a list of all people associated with an album and there were about 15 to 20 listed for each album. Ellen's was the only main female listed on both albums. Also, a previously mentioned name for the meatloaf girl was Lorraine Crosby. Who is She? She wasn't listed anywhere on the MUZE for either album. I'm just trying to get this all figured out. I'm in love with this womans voice. Her 3 minutes on IWDAFL is the only reason I bought Meatloafs second album. Thanks, Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: [email protected] Bowling Green State Univ. [email protected] Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:03:41 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Ellen Foley Hey all, I heard that Ellen Foley made a couple albums with the guys from the Clash. But they never made it past the realm of Vinyl. I checked in an import catalog and saw she has a "best of" out of Germany that I could order, but I wanted to check with all you and see if you've heard it, and if its any good. Thanks Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: [email protected] Bowling Green State Univ. [email protected] Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:39:05 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: 10 years of covers One more time, I just finished my last exam, so i'm trying to catch up on all the things i wanted to ask and I thought I'd break it up by e-mails so people can sort through what they want to read. Last night I just received my copy of "10 years of covers" and It was great!! I highly suggest it. I love how the first 4 tracks are from a bar that you can hear people talking. Have you guys heard the other discs available from KTS? Gotta run, Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: [email protected] Bowling Green State Univ. [email protected] Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:17:55 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: LGIO & Missing Leno Regarding MLE on Leno, Toni wrote: >Damn..its almost 2am..and I completely forgot about this. How was it? I always enjoy seeing MLE anywhere at anytime. Last night's appearance on Leno was no exception (luckily my cable cooperated long enough for me to see her.) However, I did think her voice was very strained. She looked great, but sounded tired. I have no doubt, however, that she will be in rare form for her final LA show. She seems to really be looking forward to it. I'd give just about anything to be there. Gee, if I win the $20 million Florida lottery tomorrow, I will be there. Michelle "Tell it softly to me baby You never meant no one no harm Your wonderland's a mirror baby It's swiftly fading like your charms" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:38:47 -0000 From: Suzanne Shmagin Subject: JEALOUSY Hello fellow listers: I just wanted to wish all a happy New Year! I also wanted to wish everyone priviledged enough to go to ME's final show a great time. I am SOOOO jealous, but you'll fill me in on all the details, right? As soon as I am old enough I will follow ME all over and post reviews for you guys. But for now, I'll have to settle with my CD and video collection. She looked great on Leno, but her voice was rather raw--even for her. Oh, who cares---she Rocked the house!!! To all those other students, HAPPY BREAK! Sincerely, Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:44:56 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: Happy Holidays Hello fellow listers! I just want to wish everyone a happy holiday. May you find lots of presents under your tree and lots of warmth and love in your home. Kare, who thinks opening gifts could be quite a PRESENTation. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:15:16 -0500 From: Leigh Warner Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 18 Dec 1996 to 19 Dec 1996 - Special Hi to everyone ...and merry christmas. I just wanted to say that I went to the show on tuesday in san francisco at the cow palace and say..sadly enough that i didnt think it was that great this time around..sorry melissa, but, you tour too much girl! I was impressed with the second stage that was closer to us so we got to get about 15 feet away from her and the band,,and the sound was way better than the other main stage. At that point I beleive she was rockin' !! Maybe because people were closer and maybe it felt like the good old days or maybe it was the better sound! But, anyways, I am really glad that we (me and Eve) got to meet john and rrhonda and whoever i met (i was still a little preoccupied with trying to get backstage and how they whouldn't even let Melissa's cousin (jeff etheridge?) who was willing to give his CA I.D, backstage) It was nice to finally put a face to the names! bye! leigh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:28:37 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Tonight Show (fwd) Jib, rhondda, and allison with a longer post-tonight show report. jib was hot to leave the SF bay area at 6 am after returning at 1:00 am after the wednesday sacto show, but somehow rhondda managed to convince her that we could get on the road at 7 am, and we'd make it to NBC studio 3 with plenty of time. it must have been when rhondda said that she would howl in sleep-deprived pain that convinced her to change her mind. we (tim, jib, and rhondda) left the bay area at 8 am, and made it to burbank by 1:30 pm. we must have been breaking land speed records... we walked over to studio 3, when a deep sultry voice said, "rhondda?" we turned to discover allison was already waiting in line (john - you were dead on about the description ). we subsequently spent the next 2 hours in line chatting - list gossip was a definite highlight. finally, the line started moving. security confiscated rhondda's santa hat at this point, because it would have been too distracting. the pages directed us to 3 seats low in the stage right risers. allison was most pleased when 3 beauties were seated in the row right in front of us. we tried to convince her to give up her prime aisle seat so she could be closer to the action, but we failed in that attempt. tim had gotten in earlier and was sitting in the high risers to the left of us. the pages told us that there wasn't going to be any bathroom breaks during the show, so if we had to go, we had to go now. the 3 of us left to take care of business, and when we returned, 2 of the NBC pages decided to play a practical joke on us, by not letting us return to our seats, stating that they didn't remember us (we had already turned our tickets in). jib noticed one of the pages smiling (a giveaway), but they definitely had allison going for a moment. jay came out shortly thereafter to warm up the crowd, by answering questions and taking pictures. then, we had to sit through a horrid warm-up comedian, who tossed out free t-shirts and hats to the crowd (tim got one!). none of us had ever been to a show taping before. the show tapes in "real time" - mistakes and all are left in - unlike sitcom taping. george clooney is even better looking in person than on tv, if that's even possible. he waved to our general vicinity during one of the commercial breaks. rob reiner talked so much about his kids, that we didn't get a chance to see a clip from his new movie, "the ghosts of mississippi". then, the real reason why were there in the first place. during NTG, allison started chuckling. we found out later that she was laughing at MLE's "signing" during the song - specifically, during the lines "and they don't understand what they don't see / and they look through you and they look past me". rhondda noticed that kenny was stuck behind bullet-proof glass , probably because the studio roof would have been blown off. jib and rhondda figured out that we'd seen john wear his star t-shirt 4 times during this leg. guess it'll be the indianapolis 500 one tonight? MLE looked uncomfortable during the commericial break; she wouldn't look into the audience. we took some pictures by the "tonight show" sign after the show. allison gave us directions to her place, and tim, jib, and rhondda walked to their cars in the NBC lot. jib and rhondda said goodbye to tim, who wasn't going on to phoenix (we'll catch up with him in san diego). jib and rhondda drove off, when jib noticed kenny standing by a truck. rhondda conviced her to go back, so we could chat. rhondda made some comment to kenny about being stuck behind the "bulletproof" glass. he said that was so that his drumming wouldn't overpower melissa's mike. we were both surprised about how rough kenny's voice was. we then noticed john moving some broken down cardboard boxes. of course, we made some comment about melissa making them do menial labor. john jokingly said, "hey wanna help move some boxes? you thought it was about the *music*, but she really puts us to work." kenny thanked us and patted rhondda on the arm. we yelled out "see you in phoenix!" last night, we definitely noticed at least 2 shots of us sitting in the audience (from the back). there might be more, but we'd have to sit down and watch the video frame by frame for that. enough babbling for now...jib and rhondda are off to phoenix, and allison has to go to work. Jib and rhondda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:33:07 -0800 From: Chula-Toth Subject: San Francisco Concert I went to my first Melissa Etheridge concert Tuesday night (December 17) in San Francisco, CA. Don't get me wrong, I have been a fan for a while but missed her last tour so I was determined to get there this time. I made sure to join M.E.I.N. to have access to those great seats everyone kept writing about in their reviews and to make sure I got seats. I anticipated this concert for many months since, in fact, in August when I was on vacation in Cape Cod and Maine, I had heard about her concerts there on the radio (but couldn't get the time to go to one). I did a search on the web and found the M.E.I.N page and closely followed her tour on the "Box Office" page and waited and waited for the tickets to go on sale here for the SF show. I bought the tickets the morning they went on sale through M.E.I.N. I had been reading every piece of information I could get about Melissa and watched all the shows (interviews, "VH1 Storytellers", etc.). At this point I owned her last four albums. I became a fan of sorts when I lived in LA (little did I know at that time that so did she and that she moved there almost at the same time I did and that she was playing at some of the clubs I went to once in a while...how the heck did I miss out?). I was in a quaint little bar one night and was looking at the juke box and saw the songs from one of her CD's listed (almost sure it was the "Never Enough" CD). I kinda recognized her name and so played a song to see what it was like. I can't tell you the song but I can say that I ran out and bought the CD. Fast forward to six years later...and I have been living in San Francisco for a little over three years now. When, "Your Little Secret" came out, a friend of mine bought it and loved it so I went out and bought it. One week later I bought "Yes I am". Then, I was hooked and after Trisha Yearwood sang "You Can Sleep While I Drive" I got "Brave and Crazy". One week before the concert (Tuesday, December 10), I went down to Hamburger Mary's in San Jose (it has country western dancing on tuesdays, which I love to do) for their Christmas fund raising party. It was announced that some people were there from Island Records and that they were handing out pink tickets for free for a raffle for Melissa Etheridge concert tickets, etc. I immediately got one. A couple of my friends I went there with didn't want a ticket because in their own words "I'm so over her". Ok, fine...I did talk one of them to get a ticket and give it to me. Later, they held the raffle and I won two free tickets to the concert (Thank you Island Records!). They even took my picture! Now, these friends (the ticket that I won the concert tickets with was the one which my friend reluctantly got and gave to me) were all excited and of course wanted me to give them the tickets. Eventually, I did give the tickets to one of them (who took one of the other friends to the concert) but only after I let them stew for a few days (after all I had my MEIN tickets). Fast forward one week to the concert...Two things dissapointed me...When I arrived and found my seats I was a little dissapointed as to how far from the front stage they were. Melissa came out, everyone started screaming, and I got really excited even as I was straining to look between people to see her on stage (I was spoiled by reading reviews by those who had gotten MEIN tickets that ended up being in the row 6 or row 2). I liked the fact that they had those large screens and were always showing shots of her but, let's face it, we are at a concert to see her in person. The other thing was that the concert was not sold out. There were some scattered empty seats all over and somehow it made me feel a little sad. However, when she started to sing these disapointments faded fast. Those songs that sound so good on the albums, sound so much the better live (especially in the hands of such wonderful musicians, Kenny Aronoff is simply amazing!). I had listened to these same songs over and over but there is something about hearing them live "from the horse's mouth". I especially loved "Bring Me Some Water" which is my current favorite even though I didn't even own her first album until the day after the concert (I had to get it). There was something in the way she performed "I Could Have Been You" that all of a sudden I realized what it meant and it really "drove the point home". The highlight of the night was when she moved to the back stage. I had read that she does this but wasn't sure if she was going to do it for this concert. Well, she did. I remember her going off stage at some point in the show, heard cheers behind me...turned around and there she was. In fact, there was only one row ahead of me, the platform where the control guys were and then the stage where she was! This is when, I believe, she really got control of the concert and got everyone energized. She spent a good long time on this stage. We were all standing on our seats and while not right at the stage, we had a great view of Melissa. Then, when her band joined her (how did Kenny do that great drum solo on such a small drum set!) you could feel the electricity everywhere. When she finally went back to the front stage, and we all turned around I was so glad to finally see the sonagram(?) of her baby up on the set. She never mentioned it or even really talked about anything personal (aw), but I heard that she displayed it at her concerts. She was very funny through the show and kept yelling "How are you San Francisco?" which always brought cheers (and I was amazed that after such a long tour she even remebered what town or city she was in). It was very funny how she made jokes about being on the radio (KFOG was airing parts of the show live) and I would have loved to be sitting in my living room hearing that as much as being at the show (but don't get me wrong, I was very happy being there). I had several strong impressions from the concert. I found her to be very shy. I got the feeling of this from the way she would talk to the crowd and it seemed to me she was much more comfortable talking to and about her band. It was very apparent that she is her music. Solid, insightful, truthful, sensitive and grounded. Along with her immense talents, who could ask for more? I remember toward the end of the concert when I looked at my watch, I realized that she had just done a nonstop 2 hours and 45 minutes of energized fun. Oh, and my friends who went also, one of them commented afterwards "I forgot how much I really like her" and the other, well, she didn't own an album before but just loved the concert so guess what she is getting for Christmas? -------------------------------------------------- The Chula-Toth "lurker extraordinaire" [email protected] http://hooked.net/users/chulat -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:52:06 -0500 From: Christel Cogneau <[email protected]> Subject: NMEC = Ani DiFranco Hello Everybody, First of all, I wish you a Merry X-mas and a Happy 97 !!!! Sorry to post this on this list but I'd like to get some infos about Ani's list. I heard about it here so I thought someone could forward me the infos regarding how to subscribe to it. I went to her concert on Monday in Brussels and it was absolutely great ! I won't bother you any longer with NME content. Thanks in advance, Christel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:05:45 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: Where's Pooh Thanks Pooh for keeping me grounded. Happiest of Holidays to EVERYONE! Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:31:56 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: (NMEC) re: Ani DiFranco Christel Cogneau <[email protected]> asked about the Ani-list: >Sorry to post this on this list but I'd like to get some infos about Ani's >list. I heard about it here so I thought someone could forward me the >infos regarding how to subscribe to it. There are now two mailing-lists for Ani Difranco. ^^^ The 'semi-official' Ani-list has a terrible signal-to-noise ratio, one of the worst I have ever seen... the only way I can handle the volume is to use a mailer with filtering capabilities, and I filter at least half of the Ani-list mail to my trash-folder... *unread*. Most of the list-members with intelligent content (Ani-related or not) have all unsubbed because of the 200-300 posts per day, most of which was inane drivel and one-liner responses to long posts (which usually quoted the entire original post). There are several reasons why this Ani-list suffers from these problems, but I will not discuss those reasons here. HOWEVER, many of the folks who unsubbed have formed their own Ani-list, with formal list-rules, and expectations of at least semi-intelligent posts to the list. I can provide instructions for subscribing to both Ani-lists, as well as opinions/advice/comments about the 'semi-official' Ani-list, but I will only do so via private email. If interested in more info, please send me private email at: [email protected] John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 19 Dec 1996 to 20 Dec 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Sat Dec 21 00:00:47 1996 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 00:00:10 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 20 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:54:47 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: Re: NMEC: superstores and "censorship" >>> Deb 12/15/96 06:18pm >>> writes: >For me, convenience is the issue. Price is also a factor for me. I have been fortunate enough to have been a semi-regular customer of Dreams & Swords--the closing store that started this discussion. I can only visit them when I'm in the Broadripple area, which is an hour from my home on a good-traffic day. Whenever I'm in the area, I stop in to see what kinds of unique items they have...those kinds of things not found in Borders or Barnes & Noble. When I'm not subscribed to a certain magazine, if D&S has it in stock, I buy it from them because the price is same as it would be in a larger chain store. I've made it a point to look at D&S for certain jewelry or other novelty items before I mail-order. I've also found several books there that I couldn't find in the chain stores, and, in those instances, I would rather give D&S the money than wait for the material to be ordered through Borders. However, if both D&S and Borders/B&N have the same book, and D&S charges several dollars more, I'll buy from the chain. One big beef I have with indie stores and mail-order firms is the price they charge for music. Granted, D&S *might* stock CDS that you won't find in a chain store (although Borders in Indy has an excellent and varied selection), but why pay $18 or $19 for the YIA CD when I can go to a chain department store and pay $11 or $12? I'm all for indie bookstores, and I'll be sad if D&S really closes...but in this day and age, I can't shell out more money for an item that I can get cheaper somewhere else. >Maggie wrote: >>I'm not thrilled with Walmart's philosophy, but they *do* >>have the right to choose what to sell and what not to sell >>in their stores. And artists/labels have the choice of >>whether or not to cater to Walmart. Some do, some don't, >>and it all comes down to whether or not they want to lose >>those sales. >Exactly. And if there is demand for CDS that Walmart >doesn't carry, some little independent is gonna make >money off of Walmart's policies. Ahem. If Walmart was the *only* chain store in competition with indie stores, I'd pay *$30* for YIA at an indie or I'd go without! I cannot deal with Walmart's tendencies to cater to the rad right. The last straw for me was their refusal to sell the new Sheryl Crow CD (give me a break) and their threat to not sell John Mellencamp's CD if the front pic was not altered. I'm also not pleased with Mellencamp's record company for altering the front of the CD just so Walmart would carry it (I know that sales are sales and money is money, but I just can't see John willingly OK'ing the alteration of that pic just because a special interest group didn't like seeing Jesus and Satan together in one picture). >It would be a similar loss of freedom if bookstores were >*forced* to carry books their owners/managers don't want to >carry (for *whatever* reason). IMHO, Walmart telling Mellencamp that they would not sell his CD unless the cover pic was altered is censorship. It's not a matter of simple refusal to sell the item...it's Walmart's pompous attitude that they can (and in some cases, do) force another entity to subscribe to Walmart values and standards. "If you alter your artistic impression, we'll carry your CD." In other words, Walmart thinks that they can get away with dictating to artists what they can and cannot do with their own material. jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:14:51 -0600 From: "John \"Taylor\" Yezeguielian" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 19 Dec 1996 to 20 Dec 1996 - Special issue Roger, Use your computer and check out the Streets Of Fire soundtrack. I think it's Ellen Foley there again. :) John --=20 Impossible: An opinion, not a fact. http://galstar.com/~falconer HOMEPAGE REVAMPED Sat.12/7/96 - Come check it out! mailto:[email protected] =A91996 John "Taylor" Yezeguielian - All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:14:15 -0600 From: Patty Wilcox Subject: Twas the Night Before.... Greetings and warmest holidays wishes to all..... May the only flames we see, hear and feel in our hearts...be those of love. Hi Ho J.R. away! It's California or Bust (tough choice ;) ) The Lone Wrangler ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:27:38 -0600 From: "John \"Taylor\" Yezeguielian" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 19 Dec 1996 to 20 Dec 1996 - Special issue MEIN: I, too, was quite disappointed about their "preferred" seats, having paid them for membership purely for the opportunity to get good seats and ending up getting exactly what the box office still had available (before last-minute releases, of which there were none) the day of the show. I'm told they instruct the venue to mix the seats up throughout the entire MEIN list, with no regard to who bought when. In the future, I'll be buying from the venue, the scalpers, whatever, and with other disappointments and rip-offs from MEIN, can say without reservation that they suck. I wrote them a concert review and commentary. It was negative in regard to what seats I got. Of course, they didn't print it, didn't even reply to it. Shows they're just a marketing company riding on ME's talents.=20 They'll never get another dime of my money. Sorry to be so negative. Reading the Lurker's post reminded me of the whole very disappointing set of experiences and I thought I'd warn you guys off about them. John --=20 Impossible: An opinion, not a fact. http://galstar.com/~falconer HOMEPAGE REVAMPED Sat.12/7/96 - Come check it out! mailto:[email protected] =A91996 John "Taylor" Yezeguielian - All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:19:32 -0500 From: "Eidel Lisa Consultant (Temp)" Subject: Just wanted to wish all a very safe, happy and healthy New Year!! Lisa E. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:17:09 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: various replies to various things Michelle: >Well, I completed my first semester of law school (and lived to tell >about it,) :) :) :) Now you only have, what, about 7 more semester left? ;) Hope you do real well! :) Tina wrote: >subject without offending someone. The religious beliefs of those that >previously shared them with the list (wouldn't know about any others, >obviously ) ran the full range from (in alphabetical order, so as to >not infere any rankings) agnosticism, atheism, christianity, judaism and >paganism, and there are probably many more. My religion changes depending on my mood. Shirl wrote: >> A flame is an attack on somebody's character. >I don't recall EVER receiving a positive or friendly private e-mail from >you at any time Just because an email isn't positive or friendly doesn't necessarily mean it's a flame. Sarah wrote: >10) Alanis Morrisette, Shepherd's Bush Empire, April > >KB -- She may be becoming an over-exposed teenybopper idol, but she >put on a fantastic show. Thoroughly enjoyable. > >SL -- Absolutey. Surprisingly, she is brilliant live. I'd go see her >again. But not with Kate - she kept making me fetch the beers. :) Yeah, I went to her concert with relatively low expectations, but was pleasantly surprised. She is a great live performer. Michelle again: >I always enjoy seeing MLE anywhere at anytime. Last night's appearance >on Leno was no exception (luckily my cable cooperated long enough for me >to see her.) However, I did think her voice was very strained. She >looked great, but sounded tired. I didn't think she sounded tired -- she sounded a lot less hoarse than she has on previous appearances. I'm glad that she and Julie are rethinking the name Austin -- I personally don't like the name, and also it wouldn't be such a good name if the baby's a girl, because that name is usually given to boys. *Not* that there's anything wrong with a girl having a masculine-sounding name, just that it would probably be easier for the child to have a name that fit their gender? >I have no doubt, however, that she will be in rare form for her final LA show. >She seems to really be looking forward to it. I'd give just about anything to >be there. But at least you got to see her once on this tour. Some of us here can't even say that. :( Kare wrote: >I just want to wish everyone a happy holiday. May you find lots of >presents under your tree and lots of warmth and love in your home. :) A merry Christmas from me to all those who celebrate it, a happy belated Hannukah to those who celebrate it, a happy Yule to those who celebrate it, a happy Kwanzaa to those who celebrate it, a happy misc. holiday to those who celebrate another holiday this time of year and a happy Dec. to those who don't celebrate any holiday this time of year. (is there anyone who doesn't?) :) John wrote: >Most of the list-members with intelligent content (Ani-related or not) >have all unsubbed because of the 200-300 posts per day, most of which >was inane drivel and one-liner responses to long posts (which usually >quoted the entire original post). I hate lists like that!!! Aaron :) "In more than words I tried to tell you The more I tried, I failed" --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 21:17:27 GMT From: Beth Durff Subject: Happy Holidays... Well everyone, I'm less that one hour away from starting my 2 week vacation. I'll see ya'll on the 6th of January when a new semester begins. I will be away from email for the most part(unless I make a special trip to check it), so those of you who wish to contact me and have my # should phone me instead. For those of you who will be attending the last show (lucky dogs) - have a *blast* for the rest of us - we want reports !!! I will be spending the New Year in Texas with some of the Houstonian *babes* (yes, there is a God !!!!) - and I'll be trying really hard not to gloat when I'm sitting in Houston watching Penn State kick some Texas... well, uh... you get the idea *lol* Beth (the HDCM is on the move again...) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:20:35 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Just a thought... Hello... Just wanted to stop by and say hi to everyone... Been feeling a bit don lately... It's nice to read all your posts... Puts a smile on my face... Pooh... Your words are like a great big hug... Thanks for putting the sparkle into the first winters snow... I hope everyone has a beautiful holiday and New Year... May all your wishes and dreams come true... I wish I could be at Melissa's last show... I hope all of you that are going give a big "I love you Melissa" yell for me... =) In the newest US magazine, the 96 thing... On the last page, "Loose Talk", is the picture of Melissa and Julie snuggling under that blanket... It was the picture from Rolling Stone Magazine... And it has a quote from Melissa: "All you can do is just laugh about it. But it is absolutley not Brad." Melissa Etheridge on rumors that her pregnant lover, Julie Cypher, is carrying Brad Pitt's child... I bought the magazine to read, cause I like it... I liked it even more when I saw the last page and Melissa and Julie's picture... ;) Well, I guess I've rambled enough for now... I send hugs and smiles to everyone... Stay safe and happy... I think I'll be in a little better mood soon... My kitty, Angel is helping... =) *meow* from her... Love and Peace, Kiva [email protected] ************************************************* "...all i wanted was for your love to be all mine... but the angel's won't have it... i thought i had a piece of my soul left to sell... i guess it's just as well..." m.e. ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:52:31 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Where's Pooh In a message dated 12/20/96 9:55:17 AM, [email protected] (Jane Vaughn) wrote: << We are a loving, kind, humorous group of people who are very passionate and no one can destroy that, no one! A long walk in the snow to clear ones thoughts does wonders now doesn't it! And where is Pooh when you need her? Look in the tracks in the snow and feel the warmth of your hand for she is walking right there beside you! :)>> Pooh...you set the season the right way!!! Now maybe some folks who think they know a lot and in actuality know nothing at all can take to heart what you say and make this the theme of the New Year! Then again, they can be the same bashing people they are right now! No names...it is the holiday season! As for those who do not believe in a Creator, a God or Godess, I feel sad for you and I will pray for you in the new year. It is your belief and are allowed it. No shoving down one's throat another's belief. If you are comfirtable with it and can live with it, all the power to you!! I feel sad because you have no one to thank for making the trees and the sea, the rivers and the birds, children and you. getting Deep, Francie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:00:18 EST From: Wendy Waterstrat Subject: censorship John \"Taylor\" Yezeguielian" wrote: >> Yet most of the major chains do not do so. B. Dalton is the only >> one I can think of that consistently and openly carries gay titles. >> Why don't the rest? Because they're effectively banning what they >> deem may be harmful - harmful to their public image, etc. They >> don't carry gay titles because they either are anti or indifferent, >> or are fearful of the flack they might receive if they did. Just my personal experience, but I've been noticing that more and more of the large bookstores in my area (my area being conservative New Hampshire and somewhat more liberal Massachusetts) are carrying "gay titles": books, magazines, and during my Christmas shopping in recent days, that gay pride page-a-day calendar placed right in the displays with all the others prominently displayed in your face when you walk in the door. Perhaps these large bookstores are not major chains - I don't really know - but they are major bookstores for the area (Barnes & Noble, and Waterstones are two examples, and, yes, I've noticed that B. Dalton does as well). Obviously they can't carry ALL the titles you might be looking for (in ANY category). But I've been mildly surprised to see as much as I've been seeing (and I'm not just talking in their own special section, but gay magazines in plain view in the magazine section, gay titles in the main displays along with all the mainstream stuff), and in seeing the quantity/variety of material increasing. Just my .02. Wendy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:02:59 -0800 From: "J. Abromitis" Subject: NMEC: Springsteen concerts I got to see Springsteen last December at The Beacon Theater in NYC during the first leg of the Tom Joad tour. Then, I got amazingly lucky (again) and got to see him during the first Asbury Park concert, the Sunday before Thanksgiving (11/24, I think). While I do enjoy some material off Tom Joad, I liked far less than I normally like off anyone's cd's. The Asbury Park show was NOT part of the Tom Joad tour--it wasn't billed as such, and the entire mood, set list, attiude from both Springsteen and the audience was completely differernt--far more the "traditional" Bruce. He played many songs from his first two albums. In terms of sentimentality and the number of songs from _Greetings_ and _The Wild and the Innocent_, it was the best Springsteen show that I've seen out of the approx. 20 I've seen over the last 15 year. One thing is for **sure**: Bruce in Asbury Park playing "Sandy," may have been the number #1 concert highlight of my life. -- Jacky http://www.world2u.com/~thunder ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:16:39 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re: Have a great time! At 10:01 PM 12/16/96 -0500, Francie Trout wrote: >John and the whole SF group of listers! >Have a wonderful time tomorrow night!! As you saw from my very long report , I had a wonderful time, much of it because I could share my excitement with so many wonderful friends. >I will be there with you in spirit!! I could feel your presence, Francie! >You will get to me our own Sue D (of NY) I've been looking forward to meeting SueD for a long time, and I'm sorry I missed meeting her Tuesday night at the Cow Palace... just too much happening that night for me to meet everyone . > and Shirl (of PA). She already has a special place in my heart... it was *so* difficult seeing her fly away home after her two-week Bay Area visit in August. >Just make sure Sue D doesn't have the notepad out and is writing anything! She'll have to meet Kim, our own BAB historian... she keeps a complete records of *everything* (even remotely incriminating) we say or do . >I wish I was there in my favorite city! There are many cities I have loved, but the San Francisco area is still my favorite... just wish I could *afford* to live here. >I hope to get there soon, after I go to Seattle to visit Christine >DuBouis and make my pilgrimage to the hometown of Heart! Ahhh, I love Seattle, too! And someday I will meet Christine, one of my favorite cyber-friends... please give her (and Catherine) a hug from me, and remember you always have a place to crash when you visit the Bay Area. ---- Anticipating her Bay Area visit, Shirl wrote: >Get the Kamikazee's ready John I think the mixin's are exactly as you left them, Shirl. :) >Can we have your awesome French Toast for breakfast, >please, please, please! Of course... will you be ready to make those breakfast potatoes? ---- Another holiday visitor, Patty Wilcox , Chicago's own 'Lone Wrangler' wrote: >Hi Ho J.R. away! It's California or Bust (tough choice ;) ) This native Chicagoan is looking forward to your visit, Patty, but I'll have to ask you to give me some head-butting lessons... that's a skill I did not learn from spending my first 18 years in the 'second city'. :) ---- John Miller - who's looking forward to a visit from Lis, too! San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 23:42:37 -0500 From: Jan Subject: dashes John Taylor wrote: > Oh my God, (see, it's possible to type the name without getting a - in > the middle,) I'm not sure what your intention was here - I assume it was an attempt at being clever. However, you should know that in the Jewish religion it is considered disrespectful to actually write out the name of God (I'm not Jewish, so I can do it). Therefore, it is usually written by Jews as "G-d", which you will see in many texts on the web if you would like to check out my statement. Jan ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 20 Dec 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Sun Dec 22 00:00:48 1996 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 00:00:12 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 20 Dec 1996 to 21 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 00:55:12 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: price/MEIN/names/prayer/Bruce Jenniffer Smith wrote: >> and varied selection), but why pay $18 or $19 for the YIA CD >> when I can go to a chain department store and pay $11 or >> $12? Indie stores charge more because they pay more per CD than chain stores - the chain stores buy in volume (sometimes for the whole chain) whereas the indie stores only need a few copies. Some of the Best Buy/Circuit City/Future Shop type "superstores" are selling CDs at less than cost as "loss leaders". They can afford to do that; indie stores can't. That said, I'll buy where the price is the lowest that I know of. >> altered. I'm also not pleased with Mellencamp's record >> company for altering the front of the CD just so Walmart >> would carry it (I know that sales are sales and money is Is this the same record company that made him change his name to "Cougar" because "Mellencamp" was too ethnic? John \"Taylor\" Yezeguielian wrote: >> I wrote them a concert review and commentary. It was negative in >> regard to what seats I got. Of course, they didn't print it, >> didn't even reply to it. Of course not. Despite their claims to respond to complaints within 24 hours. They actually tend to get upset at legitimate complaints and have posted here that we not complain about them. Aaron wrote: >> Just because an email isn't positive or friendly doesn't >> necessarily mean it's a flame. When did you get so wise? >> I'm glad that she and Julie are rethinking the name Austin But that puts names like "Conception" (Newfoundland), "Normal" (Alabama), etc. back in the running. Francie Trout wrote: >> As for those who do not believe in a Creator, a God or Godess, I >> feel sad for you Why? They probably don't feel sad about it. >> and I will pray for you in the new year. And how is that any different from some born again (or whatever that person who wrote that letter was) praying for somebody because they're not Xian? If I were atheist/agnostic, I'd be offended at somebody saying they'd pray for me. >> I feel sad because you have no one to thank for making the trees >> and the sea, the rivers and the birds, children and you. Ever hear of the theory of evolution? J. Abromitis wrote: >> Then, I got amazingly lucky (again) and got to see him during the >> first Asbury Park concert, Were any of the "special guests" there that night? >> Bruce in Asbury Park playing "Sandy," may have been the number #1 >> concert highlight of my life. Excuse me but I'm going to have to hate you for awhile. (At least until I get a copy of one of the AP shows). Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 22:50:32 -0800 From: Christine Subject: Re: all roads lead to Seattle Francie, Philly's pride and joy, said: > >I hope to get there soon, after I go to Seattle to visit Christine > >DuBois and make my pilgrimage to the hometown of Heart! You'd better visit me soon, girlie! Or else I won't dip you in honey and throw you to the lesbians. :-) John (Miller), San Jose's pride and joy, said: > Ahhh, I love Seattle, too! And someday I will meet Christine, one of my > favorite cyber-friends... please give her (and Catherine) a hug from me, > and remember you always have a place to crash when you visit the Bay Area. Johnny, you rock. I hope that you'll make it to Seattle someday soon, too! Also, let's talk about that Greta Scacchi film you offered to record for me. . . :-) Bright blessings and happy holidays to all MLEtherites, Christine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 09:57:26 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: local vs. chain Jen wrote: >Price is also a factor for me. Actually, not all locallly owned stores have higher prices. For example, in Knoxville TN we have several major chain music stores (Cat's, Camelot and Disc Jockey) and then there's the Disc Exchange, a locally owned store (well two locations now, but definately not a big chain) which almost always charges LESS for cds than the chains do and generally has a better selection. >Ahem. If Walmart was the *only* chain store in competition >with indie stores, I'd pay *$30* for YIA at an indie or I'd go >without! I agree, I agree, I agree!!! I have never bought a cd at Walmart, and never will. >I cannot deal with Walmart's tendencies to cater to >the rad right. The last straw for me was their refusal to sell >the new Sheryl Crow CD (give me a break) They *could* have decided to stop selling guns, but nooooo... big chains tend to be too profit-oriented. Aaron :) "Watch out sister, watch out brother Watch our children as they kill eachother With a gun they bought at W**m**t discount store" --Sheryl Crow ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 10:21:56 -0800 From: "J. Abromitis" Subject: NMEC:Springsteen in Asbury Park Elaine Naiman wrote: > J. Abromitis wrote: > > >> Then, I got amazingly lucky (again) and got to see him during the > >> first Asbury Park concert, > > Were any of the "special guests" there that night? Soozie Tyrell (who else does she play with? I *know* her name; I've seen it a bunch of places, but I just can't place her), Patty Scialfa, Diamond Dan Federeici (these three were there all 3 nights). At the other two shows, Vinnie Lopez was on stage too (an *old-time* E-streeter), and Steve Van Zandt showed up the last night, too. Even though I would have liked to see both Vinnie and Steve, there was something **incredible** about being there that first night, when Bruce walked out onto the stage--the crowd was wild--and said "Greetings...from Asbury Park." Yes, he did that the other nights, too, but to hear him say it for the first time . . . > >> Bruce in Asbury Park playing "Sandy," may have been the number #1 > >> concert highlight of my life. > > Excuse me but I'm going to have to hate you for awhile. (At > least until I get a copy of one of the AP shows). I'm on a tree for the Freehold show. Haven't seen any trees yet for Asbury Park. Then again, if it's a really good boot, I'll just buy the cd. -- Jacky http://www.world2u.com/~thunder ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:24:25 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: NMEC - Amanda Marshall tour dates Lately I've been putting this type of info in the newsletter that I do but I figure some folks here will be interested to know that Amanda Marshall's Canadian tour will start again in mid-January and take her to Quebec and the Martimes. From Buzzwords (Sony Canada's newsletter) #62: January 11 - Spectrum, Montreal PQ 12 - Le Capitole, Quebec City, PQ And here are those Eastern dates: January 14 - CP Ballroom, Charlottetown PEI 15 - Imperial Theatre, Saint John NB 16 - McInnis, Halifax NS 18 - Capitol Theatre, Moncton NB 19 - CEC Theatre, Truro NB 21 - Concert Hall, Wolfville, NS 22 - Delta, St. John's NF Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 18:22:00 MET From: "Claudia E. Mulder" Subject: Many best wishes & 1 question Hi all, Happy Xmas and best wishes for 1997!! I am new on the list, but sofar i enjoy reading it, especially the reviews on ME concerts. Being on the other end of the ocean, it makes me jealous sometimes that Melissa can't perform here as much as she does over there! The last concert i saw was with Bryan Adams in June this year. I'm looking forward to her next visit to Holland, or maybe Germany or Belgium, that's within range ;) One question: i guess there still isn't a commercial video of ME? At least, i can't find it here. If there is one, can someone please let me know? I don't know about the rest of Europe, but in Holland ME has got a LOT of fans!! Her concerts in Rotterdam are always a great experience, ME talked about that in a MEIN newsletter (not the last one). I just hope she'll come this way again real soon! Greez, Claudia "change is turning into fear fear is melting into hate with hate you justify your crime a crime compassion can erase" ME ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:09:52 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: Re: LGIO & Missing Leno Michelle wrote: > Gee, if I win > the $20 million Florida lottery tomorrow, I will be there. Don't forget about your friends (especially me) if you win.;) Kare, who hopes everyone gives a mean people suck toast at least once during this holiday season....;) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:12:05 -0500 From: Vivian Choh Subject: Amanda Marshall/Ani Difranco On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, Elaine Naiman wrote: > but I figure some folks here will be interested to know that Amanda > Marshall's Canadian tour will start again in mid-January and take her > to Quebec and the Martimes. From Buzzwords (Sony Canada's newsletter) [rest of schedule snipped for space] For those fans who live in, near, or can get to Toronto, A. Marshall will again be present for the New Year's Bash at City Hall (the one that's broadcast every year on CITY-TV). Small piece of useless info re: Difranco was watching the New Music's video picks of the year (the New Music is a show produced by CITY-TV). These were videos picked by the crew (editors, cameramen, etc.) of the show. Ani Difranco's video was the first to be played. Unfortunately (sp? that looks funny ), I don't recall the name of the video (she kept singing: something something "danger"). I did manage to catch that it was a video that she, herself directed. None of the videos selected were from bands that are played regularly over the radio, except for maybe the rap video (by tupac?? [the guy that was shot] and dr. dre -- I have no idea what the video was called). Hence, no MLE. Viv [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:36:31 -0700 From: Allison Fraiberg Subject: Re: 5 cds for 96 >> 1. Wild Colonials, "This Can't Be Life" >What a shock! :) Honestly, their single (saw the video on 120 MINUTES) left >me cold. I tend to think of them more as an album band. Was the single "This Misery?" Hmm, I just think their writing is strong, original, bright, and has a certain depth. You might try giving the album a whole try. In some ways, it's like kd's "Ingenue" for me: no one song really does anything for me, but I do think it's a great album. "This Can't Be Life" has got to be the best breakup album of the decade...(is that a category?) >> 3. Aimee Mann, "I'm With Stupid" >> Proof that irony isn't dead. >Aimee, Ani, Alanis, and Melissa: 4 women I wouldn't want to piss off (though >Shawn Colvin's "Get Out of This House" puts her in the running)! You know I have tried and tried and tried to like Ani D. but I just can't. I have no idea why (maybe it's the dreadful impact she has had on fashion? ). I know she is smart, I know she's good, I know I know. I buy the albums because I know I should like her, but every time I play one I just can't do it. Help... >> 5. Jane Siberry, "Maria" (1995) >Great CD and an amazing tour. I was mucho disappointed to find that she had >canceled her scheduled Xmas concert tonight at the 9:30 Club. :( tres bummer! according to kd's criteria for a good album , this is a *very* good one. Thanks publicly to Rhonnda and Jib who gave me the final Tonight Show ticket. Great fun, and now the $50 ticket price will be worth it since I'll have seen her twice this year for free (3 shows for $50 is good...). Oh, I was watching George Clooney during Melissa's performance and he was smirking the whole time... Allison "And it's one more night in Hollywood [email protected] It's been so long since I've seen the ocean Guess I should..." --Adam Duritz, "A Long December" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:22:58 -0800 From: Allison Fraiberg Subject: extra LA ticket Rhonnda has an extra MEIN ticket for the LA show. If anyone is interested, please email me as soon as possible. allison [email protected] ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 20 Dec 1996 to 21 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Mon Dec 23 00:00:45 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:00:07 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 21 Dec 1996 to 22 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:19:47 -0500 From: Jan Subject: Explanations John the falconer wrote: > 2) Jan: Thanks for the explanation. I've had a number of Jewish > friends, roomies, and a lover or two, but never heard of that doctrine. My pleasure! It's that old "you learn something new everyday" thing, right? ;-) Btw, I went to your web page and found it quite interesting! Jan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 01:35:29 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: M.E.I.N. > >> I wrote them a concert review and commentary. It was negative in > >> regard to what seats I got. Of course, they didn't print it, > >> didn't even reply to it. > > Of course not. Despite their claims to respond to complaints within > 24 hours. They actually tend to get upset at legitimate complaints > and have posted here that we not complain about them. > Just a quick question... I signed up for M.E.I.N. (a few weeks ago) and gave them my credit card number, but have had no confirmation that it was received (guess I'll just have to wait for the bill). Does anyone know how to get in touch with them? I couldn't find an e-mail address at their web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:56:14 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re: M.E.I.N. "Anne E. Zachritz" asked: >Just a quick question... I signed up for M.E.I.N. (a few weeks ago) and >gave them my credit card number, but have had no confirmation that it >was received (guess I'll just have to wait for the bill). Does anyone >know how to get in touch with them? I couldn't find an e-mail address at >their web site. M.E.I.N. email address: [email protected] M.E.I.N. phone hotline: (415) 597-6655 John Miller San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 09:00:42 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: Ani-impared, etc. Elaine wrote: >>> Just because an email isn't positive or friendly doesn't >>> necessarily mean it's a flame. > >When did you get so wise? I dunno. >>> I'm glad that she and Julie are rethinking the name Austin > >But that puts names like "Conception" (Newfoundland), "Normal" >(Alabama), etc. back in the running. And don't forget all those towns in KY with the word "Lick" in the name! Kare wrote: >> Gee, if I win >> the $20 million Florida lottery tomorrow, I will be there. > >Don't forget about your friends (especially me) if you win.;) Yeah! Michelle, we've known eachother for over a year now. You know, some of that money would make a great Christmas present for me. ;) Allison wrote: >You know I have tried and tried and tried to like Ani D. but I just can't. >I have no idea why (maybe it's the dreadful impact she has had on fashion? >). I know she is smart, I know she's good, I know I know. I buy the >albums because I know I should like her, but every time I play one I just >can't do it. Help... Finally, someone who feels the way I do about Ani!!! I LOVE her lyrics, and I really admire the way she's been able to build such a large fan base while staying on her own indie label, but I just can't listen to her. I don't know if it's her music or her voice, or the way she sings, but her songs just sound so boring to me. Practically everyone I know absolutely loves her, and I keep thinking I should like her, but I just don't. Strange! Aaron :) "In more than words I tried to tell you The more I tried, I failed" --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 08:59:49 -0500 From: Tanja Wodrich <[email protected]> Subject: THANKS :-) Hi all, all I want to say is THANKS ...... for all the nice responses of my mail for the special infos about Melissa for the reports of the ME concerts for so many soulful words who has touched me deeply list owners ..that you make that all possible that you all beeing here Melissa ..for your unique and wonderful voice, lyrics, concerts and so much more. >We are a loving, kind, humorous group of people who are very >passionate and no one can destroy that, no one! POOH, thank you very much for this words! :-) A big dream of mine is that we all come together in the first concert after Melissas break. Wherever it will be. For those of us who are fortunate enough to be at the last show PLEASE make this day unforgettable for Melissa. One question. What is bullshit? I haven't found it in my dictionary. I wish you all a wonderful Christmas time and a happy new year! Take care all Tanja ><><><><><><><>[email protected]<><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 14:25:57 EST From: "Sue Lambert (IEC)" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: edgy's top 5 edgy wrote: >Inspired, as always, by Deb, here are my faves of '96: **snip** edgy, I am SHOCKED, to say the least, to find that Ellen's 'Taste This' was NOT on your top 5 list! Is there a new world order? Did I miss something? Ellyn.......going to lay down now, not sure which end is up..... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 15:29:28 EST From: M Something Subject: Lottery Blues Aaron wrote: >Kare wrote: >>> Gee, if I win the $20 million Florida lottery tomorrow, I will be there. >> >>Don't forget about your friends (especially me) if you win.;) > >Yeah! Michelle, we've known eachother for over a year now. You know, >some of that money would make a great Christmas present for me. ;) I picked the winning lotto numbers!!!!!! Well, OK, I only picked two out of the six winning numbers. Sorry to disappoint you both. I just hope MLE can find it in her heart to perform tonight even without me there. Michelle "Once, twice I thought it might be nice To come into your kitchen and play" - Melissa Etheridge ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 18:36:18 -0500 From: Deb Subject: SMEC: Misc. Sarah Lorimer wrote: >3) Dar Williams, the Jazz Cafe in November and the Purcell Room in >June. >SL -- Definitely a must-see. Better live than recorded, IMHO. No doubt. She's great live, but I'm not crazy about either of her CDs (they're pleasant, but kind of boring to me). >KB -- Well, I guess I know where my time (and my money) has gone this year, >but don't ask me where I'm going (next year). London, is it a cool >place or what? I'v evaluated job opportunities all over the US this year, and I keep coming back to the fact that *everybody* comes through DC... plus we get bonuses like MLE's appearance at the Inauguration ceremonies, the Voters for Choice concerts, LifeBEAT... and it doesn't rain here all that much. :P =-=-=<>=-=-= roger zender wrote about Ellen Foley: > I checked in an import catalog and saw she has a "best of" out of >Germany that I could order, but I wanted to check with all you and see if >you've heard it, and if its any good. I haven't heard that, but I remember she had a song on a compilation album ("Exposed" -- it highlighted up-and-coming artists) I had in the late 70's or early 80's, so she definitely had at least one release in the US. > Have you guys heard the other discs available from KTS? KTS is famous for its quality bootlegs, I wouldn't worry about anything you order from them. =-=-=<>=-=-= edgy wrote: >then, the real reason why were there in the first place. during NTG, >allison started chuckling. we found out later that she was laughing at >MLE's "signing" during the song - specifically, during the lines "and they >don't understand what they don't see / and they look through you and they >look past me". That had me cracking a smile too! :-) I thought it was a pretty passionate performance overall, but Tori thought it was overly-dramatic. >jib and rhondda figured out that we'd seen john wear his star t-shirt 4 >times during this leg. When we saw it, Tori said, "Does he ever wear anything else?!" =-=-=<>=-=-= Francie Trout wrote to Elaine: >Why don't you pick on people your own size Actually, I suspect that most of the time she's picking on people who are bigger than she is, but that's just a guess. :) I think all of you need to relax, and if you don't want the grief, be strong enough to let things go by you. That would, after all, be the Christian thing to do. Lately, I have trouble telling the instigators from the supposed victims. I'm pretty sick of all of the not-too-subtle jabs in both directions, and I'm sure I'm not alone. -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-22 18:36 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "Some people wear their heart upon their sleeve/ I wear mine underneath my right pantleg, strapped to my boot/... / don't think that I won't pull it out/ don't think that I won't shoot" -Ani Difranco, "Outta Me, Onto You" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 16:57:15 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: NMEC: superstores and "censorship" Aaron Morrison wrote: >Actually, not all locallly owned stores have higher prices. Plus, many of them carry used CDs, which are really cheap. =-=-=<>=-=-= Jenniffer Smith wrote: >One big beef I have with >indie stores and mail-order firms is the price they charge for >music. They can't get the bulk discounts that chains can. > Granted, D&S *might* stock CDS that you won't find >IMHO, Walmart telling Mellencamp that they would not sell >his CD unless the cover pic was altered is censorship. But it would not have been if they simply refused to carry it? Would you have preferred if they had not been specific about their objections? >not a matter of simple refusal to sell the item...it's Walmart's >pompous attitude that they can (and in some cases, do) >force another entity to subscribe to Walmart values and >standards. They're enforcing their own standards on their business, and they have a legitimate right to do that. I'm sure they'd love the money off of the CDs they're refusing to carry, but they don't want to make money off of those products. I can guarantee you that if I ran a bookstore that I would not carry any of Rush Limbaugh's books, though I'll admit he's a bright guy and I'm sure his books are good for what they are. I just disagree with his POV, and I would absolutely "discriminate" against him by refusing to carry his material. And any ditto-heads who accused me of censorship would be wrong. =-=-=<>=-=-= "John \"Taylor\" Yezeguielian" wrote: >According to the Oxford American Dictionary, a sensor is "a person >authorized to examine letters, books, films, etc. and remove or ban >anything regarded as harmful." Censorship is defined as "to subject to >such examination or removal" I think "authorized" and "ban" are the key words there. To me, censorship could only come from government entities, and would result in a total ban of product across an area (county, city, country). X-rated theatres and book stores suffer this kind of censorship. >Whenever one chooses not to do something for reasons which involve >biggotry, etc., they are being unjustly discriminatory. Yes, since bigotry and unjust discrimination are different sides of the same coin. >Earlier, some >argued that the stores had the right to sell whatever they want. = > >Perhaps. But how do you feel about an entity which denies us in this >fashion? If a record store refused to carry ME material because "She's >a dyke" or "We don't want any hassles from the Antis," I doubt you'd >feel inclined to patronize them. Why is this any different? It's not any different. And it's still not censorship. By virtue of my taking my business elsewhere, I'll support those that carry the CDs/books that I want. Unless the government makes those CDs/books illegal, there's no censorship -- there will always be those willing to make money in the niches the bigots leave behind. You cannot force businesses to carry a specific inventory. -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-22 16:75 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "Boys get locked up in some prison, girls get locked up in some house/ And it don't matter if it's a warden, or a lover, or a spouse/ you just can't talk to 'em/ you just can't reason/ you just can't leave/ and you just can't please 'em" - Ani DiFranco, "Out of Range" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:12:13 -0000 From: Vicky Adair Subject: OH MY GODDESS!!!!!! Oh My GODDESS!!! I have just received the best Christmas present I will ever know in my lifetime. Somebody must love me. Tues night (as I had posted before) I had to work. I snuck out early and my honey was supposed to be ready to go and meet me. WELL!!!! She was not there when I got home and I immediately (if not sooner) went balistic. I called her at her friend/hairdressers house, where she was still. She had decided to highlight (again!), cut and straighten her hair. I was so mad I told her I was going to leave without her. I wanted to be on time, (especially to meet some of the listers) Well by the time I got there she was still not done, and I tried my best to calm down, because I really didn't want this night to start out on a bad note. Not on my ME concert night!!! Well we did arrive late. Theresa kept saying the whole drive there. "She won't start on time" we arrived about 7:40 and I really had to go to the bathroom. We reached the line and it was so long I thought I was going to die!. I grabbed 'T's hand and I said let's get to the men's restroom (the concert was 85-90% WOMEN and when we arrived there, they had put a temporary women's sign over the sign. Well I grabbed her hand and we were dashing through the lobby once again as our seats were on the other side. I had bought these tickets at the last minute before I joined the MEIN, and they were all the way at the back, first row in the stands. Not very good seats but perfect for the back stage, (as we were to find out when we finally went to hunt them down after the first set.) Back to the story... We were dashing past the shirts, when a man grabbed 'T's arm. Not hard or anything, he was just trying to get our attention. He was holding in his hands two tickets (with the stubs still attached) and he asked, "Would you girls like to be in the front row?" AAAAWWWWWWWOOOOUUUUWWWW!!!! My heart started racing. 'T', being the ever so sceptical one, asks him, "What do you want, how much?" Then I noticed the laminated backstage pass around his neck as I tried to mellow her just a bit, and I feasted my eyes on the tickets, front row comp seats, price $00.00 (with the stubs still attached) I looked at him and I said, "is this for real?" He said, compliments of Melissa Etheridge." I screamed and I thru my arms around this man and gave him a big hug and a kiss on the cheek and said, "THANK YOU SO VERY VERY MUCH, MERRY CHRISTMAS!" And we ran to the bathroom sreaming, waving our front row tickets and Theresa was so excited, she accidently tore the stub away from the ticket. Mine is still intact! Then we heard her come on and we preceeded down to the front of the stage. This was the most absolutely incredible feeling to be right under her watching her sing and play, when we were hoping to get good seats tomorrow night for the Sacramento show thru the MEIN, knowing that our seats were not very good. 'T' got to shake her hand while I touched her. During the second set we went to our other seats which turned out to be right in front of the backstage. Then we came back to the front for her last set. They seemed to really step it up a bit during the last set. I rocked alot with Kenny the last set (whereas I couldn't take my eyes off of ME the first 2 sets) Being a drummer I had a lot of interactions with him. I was air drumming and he kept winking, making faces smiling and pointing at me. I love that! On 12-17 John Miller wrote.... > The 'American Concept' line of drumsticks offers a special >'grooved for better grip' line of Kenny Aronoff 'powerplay' sticks in >solid hickory. Anyone on this list get the drumsticks he tossed to >the audience after the show??? Well that was me!! He looked me in the eyes and my GF was on a friends shoulders so he tossed it right to her, then he winked at me. It has his autograph on it. What an incredible show. I am still recupperating. On Wed in Sac. we got to the will call window and I almost fainted when I saw out seats. Center section 4th row. I thought that they were having alot more fun on wed. (I thought because of John's birthday) they were looser and smiling and seem to be having a lot more fun. Needless to say BOTH shows were awesome!!! I could say so much more but I think I've typed quite enough. Hope I didn't bore anyone. I'm sorry I didn't get to meet any of the listers. Maybe next time. PS Toni Braxton was good too. Way different type of show, thats for sure. Happy Holidays Everyone. Vicky [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:15:45 -0000 From: Vicky Adair Subject: Top 100 Albums >Was this a top 100 of '96? If so, YLS shouldn't be there - it too >was released in '95. And even if it isn't, while I don't know that >there are 100 releases this year better than YLS, voting for an album >that I thought was marginal at best (and I know that there are others >who agree with me - right Deb?) may only be viewed as hypocrisy, and >an unintended encouragement for a good musician to deliver subpar >goods. I'd far rather cast my vote for any of my top 5 of the year, >Patti Rothberg's "Between the 1 and the 9" (did someone else mention >that one?) Bush's "Razorblade Suitcase", "Hello" by Poe, (yes, I'm >an alterna-head most of the time) Warren Cuccurullo's "Thanks 2 >Frank" or 'Friction, Baby" by Better Than Ezra. But that's just me! The Albums Top 100 holds the 100 most popular albums in the world. Thousands of votes are scanned, parsed and compiled every week to give you this unique list of the best CD's, MC's and LP's in the world. You can vote for ANY album you want, any year. Melissa's YLS is her only album that has made it on the list, (so far) but you can vote for an album even if it didn't make the list. They give you the results of the 100 albums that receive the most votes every week. I personally have typed in a couple of ME's earlier albums. >Emancipation - TAFKAP >Wow! Alot of everything he does so well. Though I agree that it >could have been pared down to 2 CDs, I'm glad he didn't. Everyone I >talk to has a different opinion of what should be cut and who's to >say that 3 months from now, I'm not going to discover things that I >haven't noticed yet. This will probably be my most listened to CD of >97. I almost agree with you 100% about everything except, paring it down. I can never get sick of listening to all 3 hours of this CD. My girlfriend always makes remarks to me like, "Is that the only CD you ever listen to anymore?" and I told her I don't know if it's because I've always been a big fan, if its all the rave I've heard about this CD influencing me, if I'm crazy or, if I just LOVE IT THAT MUCH!!! She said she thinks it's because I just love it so much. I have always loved everything he has ever done, but I wasn't too impressed at all, with the last few CD's he's done (with the exception of the Gold Experience) but this one has every thing in it. Very good CD to listen to on a romantic night with your honey. The only other CD that almost gets as much action on my CD is ME's Import, Valentine's Day. I have alot more favs, that I don't have time right now to list, but most of them have been put on the back burner lately since I bought Emancipation and Valentine's Day. BTW.. Emancipation was the Internet's #1 of the top 100 albums last week.(haven't seen this weeks result's yet) VERY WELL DESERVED!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:04:38 -0500 From: Kelley at AOL Subject: Memphis concert... Listers who attended the Memphis show... Any of the ladies that I met in Memphis who would have pix willing to share please contact me privately....looking for great photos...willing to pay for prints...you know who you are....met quite a few nice people there and would like some of the photos (including the group ones) and maybe some nice ones of Melissa, since I know it seems like we all made it up to front stage...well, be in touch. Thanks! (I'm sure you all remember me, I'm the one with the cranky girlfriend who refused to attend the show...what a mistake!!) Kelley "I am woman, I am invincible, I am tired!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 21:43:57 -0500 From: Michelle Partin Subject: portland gathering... hi, i am sooooo bummed i missed the gathering at the portland show!!! i loved the show they (yes, the whole band) put on but the evening had a few crappy points for me. :( 1. i bought the tixand took my friend and she fell asleep and i couldn't get her to wake up in time to so anything but park! 2. because she slept so long had to park light years from the venue!! 3. not only did i pay for the tix, she didn't even bring $ for parking. 4. MEIN (mean!!!) gave me tix in row 24!!!! YUCK!! so much for preferred seating!! 5. i did see people from the list (the necklaces gave you away) but when i said something to someone i got a very lukewarm response. it kinda hurt my feelings. the very best thing that happened that night: i ended up with the back-stage at my armpits! John gave me a pick and i could see her nostrils (thats close!!) oh well, hopefully next time or sooner we can have a get-together and i'll get to join in on the "mean people suck" toast. Marcy, i saw you and your U after the show out front. did anybody see me, i have short burgandy hair and i was wearing a black leather jacket with x-mas lights on it (lit most of the night) type at you later happy holidays, michelle ("Honda driving babe" thanks for my nickname ). ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 21 Dec 1996 to 22 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Tue Dec 24 00:00:44 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:00:06 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 22 Dec 1996 to 23 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 07:52:45 -0600 From: Patti Fink Subject: Waiting for LA reports Elaine & Aaron mused: >>>> I'm glad that she and Julie are rethinking the name Austin >> >>But that puts names like "Conception" (Newfoundland), "Normal" >>(Alabama), etc. back in the running. > >And don't forget all those towns in KY with the word "Lick" in the name! Yea, but at *least* we can safely rest knowing it won't be "Bert"...or worse, "Burt"... -----<>----- Hey SueD!!! (oh, waitaminute! That's right....she's not even near a computer...maybe when she gets to JohnJuan DeMiller's place later today....) We want LA concert reports!!! How long did she play? How did the letters go when she came out on stage? Where did you guys sit? If she played way long, what did she fill the time with?? Anything from B&C? Are you guys still awake? Was Julie there? Did Tim get to talk to her? Who got the honor of tearing her off the stage? Is the concert still raging on? ;) Patiently awaiting news.... Patti "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience." --Pierre Teilhard de Chardin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:03:27 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: Re: Lottery Blues Michelle wrote: > Aaron wrote: > >>Kare wrote: >>>> Gee, if I win the $20 million Florida lottery tomorrow, I will be > there. >>> >>> Don't forget about your friends (especially me) in you win.;) >> >> Yeah! Michelle, we've known eachother for over a year now. You know, >> some of that money would make a great Christmas present for me. ;) > > I picked the winning lotto numbers!!!!!! Well, OK, I only picked two > out of the six winning numbers. Sorry to disappoint you both. I just > hope MLE can find it in her heart to perform tonight even without me > there. DAMN!!! You know Michelle, I was really counting on that money . Actually, I kind of figured you didn't win on the count I didn't get a phone call from you. Well, there is always the next "big lottery". Ohhh noooo, you know what song I have in my head right this very minute? "I want money, lots and lots of money, I want that pie in the sky". I really hate when that happens...... I guess I'll still come and see you Michelle, even though you didn't win the lotto....;) Kare, who thinks that in a year or so people will be asking the question, "do you remember the Elmo?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:28:17 -0500 From: Sasha Friedman Subject: NMEC Voters for choice show Hi Everybody I have decided to de-lurk for a moment. I was just wondeing if any listers in the DC area were going to the Voters for Choice show, with Joan Osborne, Ani and Keb MO..??? I was just wonderin cause I'm going and I wanted to meet some of you all.... Peace Sasha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:35:09 -0700 From: Joyce Stoliar Subject: Holiday Cheer So its 2:00 pm here in frigid Banff, Alberta (-37 celsius) but I just got a phone call that warmed me from the inside out. John Miller, Shirl, Sue D., Patty and Mel just called from the Bay Area. We did the traditional toasts required for listers and of course I just had to finish what was in the bottle. Sounds like the listers in the Bay Area are up for some serious partying tonight. I realised something while I was on the phone with them. And that is no matter where you are in the world we all share a special bond. A phone call or an e-mail from across the globe can bring you close to all of those that you love. Although circumstances did not allow me to join all of these wonderful people south of me, I feel as if I am there regardless. And I just wanted to take a minute to say something to all of those I have met throughout this wonderful year of 1996. I have now been on this list for almost a year and as mushy as it may sound, my life has never been better. I have had the pleasure and joy of meeting almost 30 of you personally and e-mailing with hundreds more. The shirt project even with its craziness near the end was probably one of the most wonderful projects I have ever embarked upon. Having Texas listers and people in the Chicago area meet me at the airport on my travels was another very special time. I have been lacking in my correspondence because of things beyond my control but I want to say that so many of you have touched my heart. Thank - you for making this past year the most wonderful of my life. Even though I do not celebrate the holiday of Christmas it is almost impossible to not get caught up in the emotions of the season, and I would like to wish all those who do partake in this holiday the most blessed of times. May all of your dreams and wishes come true, only happiness and joy should fill your days. Thank - you all again for being there for me throughout this past year. Shirl, John, Sue D., POOH, John M., Linda, and especially Paul, who is no longer on this list, "I Will Never Be The Same" ME I love you all from the bottom of my heart. PS Glenna and Dave thank - you so much for having this here for us. And a very important PS, Melissa, I gather you will never see this message, but I wish you all of the hapiness in the world too, cause without your passion and music we wouldn't be here. Meeting you again this past March was a highlight of the year for me, now if only I could have copies of the pictures of us, I would have the one wish I wish for this holiday season. Happy Holidays everyone. Joyce, The Shirt Gal ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:50:00 EST From: Nanette Gherardin Subject: Holiday Greetings Morning All (8.30am Christmas Eve) Just a quick note to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and a Safe and Happy New Year. Speak to everyone in 1997 Nan "the future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Rooseveldt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:41:56 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: diversity Kiva: I love your posts. I got home today from California, where I had gone to see Melissa's last 2 shows of this tour. WOWWOWWOWWOWWOW!!!!!!!!! At each show she talked about making New Year's resolutions to celebrate diversity and promote tolerance. Think I'll give it a try. And she sang some of NTG in Spanish at both shows. In LA she talked about how she had voted against Prop. 209 (did I get that # right?), and how that hadn't really worked, so she was doing what she could in her own way. Then she said how much she liked LA, and something like "this is for you, LA," and then she sang in Spanish. I got goose bumps, and tears in my eyes, and again now as I type this. That woman is such an incredible inspiration. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:33:12 -0800 From: Allison Fraiberg Subject: LA mini-report I'll let Rhondda or the others fill in all the details of the LA show, but here's my little version. I originally had floor tix way in the back but, thanks to a special someone, was able to get into the 8th and then about the 4th rows. I did think the show had good energy and, as always, was well-orchestrated. She did play for three hours (I have no idea of the setlist but it sounds like all the others - with the addition of "Happy Xmas"). No YIA. It was a good show, but two things bummed me out: first, there was nothing to really mark this show as "LA"--not that there needs to be, but I was hoping for a moment of Ellen perhaps or something else a little industry tricky that could only be pulled off here. She did talk about how, when she was playing Pasadena back in the old days, she would come see shows at the Sports Arena (but she's done that about the Greek too) such as Prince (I forget the others she mentioned). So, no Ellen, no surprises. The second bummer thing had to do with the eagerness with which she finished the show. There was no doubt that she was anxious to get a move on, see ya later. Now, hey anyone who puts on a solid three hour show certainly gets my vote for showing up to work, but Melissa had said that they would have to "drag her off the stage." Let's just say there was no need for that. So, in that case, I was only bummed because I thought we'd get extra songs since she implied she'd want to stay on longer. Nope. Oh well. She did have a funny line before "Happy Xmas": while talking about what xmastime brings to mind, she added that it was definately the time when you didn't want to go near the Beverly Center (which is a big shopping center here). having been at the BevCenter twice this past week, well, it kinda made sense. Well, that's my little report: solid solid show but no frills and certainly no extras. I will say that it was a lot of fun to go to the show knowing that I'd know a whole bunch of people, especially list folks. Thanks. Allison [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 17:00:37 PST From: Thomas Sharp Subject: LA Show Last night's show at the LA Sports Arena was fantastic! Melissa played for about three hours and everyone seemed to have a wonderful time. What I want to know is where she gets the energy - she was really rocking the whole time. She played some of her old stuff, though sometime I'l really like to see her do 2001 (preferably before 2001). -Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:02:39 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Linda Perry in CURVE Some choice words from Linda Perry (formerly of 4 Non Blondes) in the January issue of CURVE; interviewed by Dina Alfano: >>> DA: You mentioned Janis Joplin. Just recently I was hanging out with Big Brother and the Holding Company (Janis's band) and your name came up. There's currently a movie on Janis's life in the works as I'm sure you know, you've been compared to her. Would you take the role if they offered it to you? LP: No, I wouldn't touch it. I've heard the comparison with Janis and I cringe when I hear it because that woman is in a place of her own and you just can't screw with that. I'd love to do a cover of one of her songs, but that's about it. I heard about the movie and that Melissa Etheridge was up for the role, and it almost made me faint. DA: The question is why is the Janis image being pushed on so many female performers, like Melissa for example? LP: I personally can't stand Melissa, she bugs the shit out of me. It's really strange how society works. Every woman has to sound like Mariah Carey or that Cranberries girl, "Miss Yodel." Or else... I mean, it's unfortunate that people don't look at the individual as a personality. If they did, they'd never compare Melissa with Janis. To take it a step further, one interviewer actually asked me, "So, in this era of women rockers now, who would you most like to meet, Melissa Etheridge or Joan Osborne?" And I said (laughing) "I'll tell you what, you put them in a room with me alone and I'll kick the fuckin' shit out of them!" Women in rock? Women have been in rock forever... LP: Anyway, that lady from OUT really got to me. If I ever met her, I;d beat the shit out of her [for misquoting]. DA: (Laughing) Her too? LP: (Hysterical) Her, Melissa, Joan, everybody!! <<< Gee, I'm hysterical at that too . -- Deb \ [email protected] \ 12-22 22:02 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "It's possible to get an acoustic guitar to sound like a Mac truck" - Ani DiFranco in an NPR interview ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 20:47:08 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: LA Show/Tim Dunker Hi, y'all, Got off the phone about an hour ago...Tim gave me a call from the airport in Philadelphia and asked me to post a hello from him to the list and to let people know he'd be posting a long email or two about his experiences in the US as soon as he rests up a bit. Guess he had a bout with the flu in Phoenix....but he was well for the LA show, and I'm happy for that! (Though jealously spitting nails, of course :-)) In the meantime, Tim says Melissa really loved the U ARE HEAVEN lights! And he enjoyed meeting so many listers..Rhondda, he took a real shine to *you*!!! LOL Everybody....whatever you observe this season, or if you observe nothing at all....be safe and healthy, and I wish us all the best for 1997! Love & Light, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 21:12:21 -0500 From: Lisa DUarte Subject: Los Angeles Screamer A few weeks ago I was following the concert behavior discussion and really felt sort of indifferent about the subject, until last night when I went to Melissa's LA show and had the absolute worse time ever. I just want to "thank" the two screaming maniacs that sat directly behind me in Section 6, row 3, seats 5-6, you successfully rendered my hearing useless. For future reference, if you feel the need to scream before, during and after EVERY song for three hours, then please direct your screams upward toward the ceiling of the venue -- not down toward the ear of the person in front of you. After the first 10 minutes of uncontrollable maniac screaming I couldn't hear anything...my ears literally felt like they were bleeding. I tried to be nice to these maniacs and prayed that their lungs would give out within the first thirty minutes, but obviously these two women were experienced deep sea divers with lung capacities more complex than that of Aquaman. My advice to anyone who may find themselves in a similar position in the future is to NOT be nice and say something and if necessary report the maniacs to security. Although I can understand one's exuberance in seeing Melissa live and being excited, I fail to understand why someone can really think that they are the only ones trying to enjoy her music. And to the screamers out there, when you scream Melissa doesn't hear just you specifically -- she doesn't hear your sobbing screams and think "Wow, she's cool." -- rather she probably just hears a mass roar which is great, but not when you are two feet away from a sexually frustrated screaming banshee and her girlfriend...have a little respect next time. You left before Melissa's last song -- perhaps you knew that you were idiots and that I had a few choice words to exchange with you, but more than likely you were probably trying to mob Melissa backstage. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 21:50:48 -0500 From: Mle Love Subject: Re: Names I've been to Bucksnot -- stopped and got gas there on the way back from Memphis!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 22 Dec 1996 to 23 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Wed Dec 25 00:00:42 1996 Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:00:05 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 23 Dec 1996 to 24 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 02:23:12 -0500 From: Tamera Poynter Subject: Hello to everyone......... This is my first post, I hope I do it correctly. I joined the list a little over 2 weeks ago and have found it very inertesting and amusing! I get the digest version every day and read it daily. Its almost like a soap opera ! I've read the conversations from the bookstores to the religion topics. Which I won't at this time make a comment on either, especially the later due to the very debatalbe and opinionated view points. (which has been proven from the last few days posts I've read) It does seem that over all everyone is very friendly and excited over each others comments and experiences that are shared. I will pop on with something from time to time but will read it all daily, so keep me informed on all the scoop! I've enjoyed the lastest information on the ME concerts. I've been a big fan of hers for many years. I've been able to see her only twice, once last year in Miami and again this year (NOV.) in Tampa. A very talented, sincere, moving performer to say the least. I'll also add sexy which I feel is due to a cumulative amount of traits that she possesses. One last thing to "Michelle" (about the Fla. Lottery) where are you at? I'm in Fla. too. Anyone feel free to contact me, I love to chat! :) "[email protected]" Peace, love and happiness to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Stevie" <-----------female :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 03:44:57 -0500 From: "Marcy J. Goldstein" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 22 Dec 1996 to 23 Dec 1996 Happy Holidays Everyone ! Be Safe & Well. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:30:40 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Recent MLE Article Some kind soul on AOL emailed this article to a bunch of Ridgers, so I thought I'd pass it on here. It contains quite a few rather interesting tidbits....esp. about the thought of a live album: On the cover it reads: *Melissa Etheridge celebrates breaking boundaries in her musical and personal life- Why is this woman smiling?* Etheridge lives her dream ROCK: With fame and success under her belt, the singer now looks to build a family. By Mark Brown The Orange County Register -- Saturday, Dec. 21, 1996 Cover Story reprinted without permission It just doesn't get better than this. Or so Melissa Etheridge thought at the time. Back in 1989 Etheridge stood onstage at Red Rocks Amphitheatre near Denver and told the audience all her dreams had come true. When she was a little girl in Leavenworth, Kan., she said, her family had visited the magnificent natural amphitheatre in the foothills of the Rockies. It was the place the Beatles had played. The place U2 would make famous with a live disc. Now it was sold out, overflowing with fans screaming for her. "Thank you for making my dreams come true," she said. But that peak now seems like a small hill in a career since filled with Grammys, platinum sales for albums such as "Yes I Am" and "Your Little Secret," heavy airplay for songs such as "Come To My Window, " liberating personal freedom, and friends such as Bruce Springsteen. After having all her dreams come true - and then going 10 times past that - does she still have goals to set? "I still put dreams in front of me, yeah," she said in a dreamy voice from a hotel suite in Houston, thinking back on the Red Rocks experience. "It seems like musically there was definitely a high with 'Yes I Am.' Now what I would like, what my dream is, is to maintain a career. To become an artist that contributes to our musical consciousness and remembered as such. That takes work and not letting it down. "I have confidence now that is very pleasant. I don't think, 'I've done it!' I now have to maintain it. I don't want to be 'Where is she now? Remember that "Window" song?' I want to be respected and have a good career." And things are unfolding just as she expected in this good career of hers. She hit the platinum heights with "Yes I Am." Now she's coming back down to earth. "Your Little Secret" hasn't sold as well as "Yes I Am," but Etheridge has the vision to look past the numbers that are so important to the music industry. "It's actually not as bad as I thought it would be. I knew it would come," she said. In fact, she said, one reason "Your Little Secret" followed so closely on the heels of "Yes I Am" was to get the inevitable over with. "It's not going to sell as much as the last one," she said, "because I just know that's not possible." WATCHING YOU And the lessened expectations work out quite well in Etheridge's personal schedule. "Now that I'm starting a family, I don't see myself touring for a year," she said. "I will pick and choose my tours much more carefully. I will be less and less available." Of course, you've heard the big news. Etheridge is going to be a mom. So is her mate, Julie Cypher. The ex-wife of actor Lou Diamond Phillips, Cypher is actually carrying the child. Two women in the public eye. Together. Sperm donor. Baby. About the only thing that hasn't been asked was whether this pregnancy was planned. It's an odd situation for Etheridge - not so much the idea of starting a unconventional family but the public scrutiny. She was in fear of it for years. In the closeted '80's and early '90s she was faced with the off-the-record questions from sympathetic interviewers: What will you do if your personal life becomes public? She'd just sigh and say, "I hope that doesn't happen, but if it does, I'll deal with it." At President Clinton's inaugural ball, she came out of the closet and has since taken the opposite tack - openly talking about her lesbian relationship with partner Julie Cypher and the impending birth of their baby. "I have a lot of reasons for it," she said of the turnabout. "If I'm willing to talk about it and be up front about it and truthful, the majority of the people actually respect that and leave me alone. I get more privacy." With the impending birth, Etheridge went as far as the cover of Newsweek magazine and TV interviews about the pregnancy - if only to deny the persistant rumor that buddy Brad Pitt was the sperm donor. "We knew that Julie being pregnant would cause a certain stir. People would want to know things," she said. "To maintain our privacy, we've agreed to do press and TV. 'Here we are. Look at her. Isn't she good and pregnant? Here's what two lesbians look like when they're going to have a baby.' And there's no photographers beating down our door. So far, it's worked for me. We don't have anything to hide." For the most part it has worked. There's been almost zero perceptible backlash; indeed, her greatest successes came after she went public. Regional acclaim started in 1988 with the release of her self-titled debut and the hits "Bring Me Some Water," "Chrome Plated Heart" and "Like the Way I Do." That success burgeoned through subsequent albums until it finally exploded in 1993 with the 5 million-strong sales of "Yes I Am," spurred by "Come To My Window." So yeah, the public has treated her just fine. Still, she acknowledged, her openness about her lifestyle is further than any celebrity of her stature has ever taken it. "It is new territory," she said in a quieter voice. "It gets kind of scary. You just hope. You try to believe in the inherent goodness in human beings. We all have different opinions, and that's fine. But we all live and let live. It actually gives me a lot of hope about this world, and especially about our country." More irksome to some fans have been her lifestyle changes, especially as detailed in a piece in Rolling Stone a couple of years back that went on about her mansion, her BMW and the like. Where, fans wondered, was that Kansas girl who seemed so down to earth? She never left, Etheridge insisted. There's nothing wrong with having friends or success. "It's normal that any artist who has released two or three albums on a cult level, then receives mass success, there's going to be a backlash of the core fans saying, 'Hey, she sold out.' But I haven't seen any. I've heard some fans say it, but they still come to shows," she reflected. "I am a growing, learning human being. I've certainly changed from 10 years ago, from the 25-year-old who wrote the first album. The experiences now are different, what I draw on is different, and I want to be different. I want to get more into different places of my life for writing. "I don't know what ultimately will happen there. As long as I stay true to myself and honest in my work and create respectable, good work, then all that other stuff will eventually fade." ALL THE WAY TO HEAVEN As for the acclaim other gay artists have garnered in her path - Ani DiFranco, the Indigo Girls and the like - Etheridge makes no claims. "I know my own path. I know how it's been, what doors were closed that we blew open," Etheridge said. "You really have to ask the other female artists how they feel about that. I know how I feel about Joni Mitchell and Joan Armatrading and Chrissie Hynde and Janis Joplin and what they meant to me." Her career built gradually, which helped her take the changes a step at a time - everything from the media scrutiny to her former heroes turning into her onstage pals. "The way it has happened has been so slow," she said. "It didn't happen to me all at once. There was nothing totally overwhelming. And on the good side, there's standing onstage and singing with Bruce Springsteen." Playing with Springsteen has happened twice. The first time was awkward, during the filming of Etheridge's "MTV Unplugged" segment when the two did "Thunder Road." More recently, she was playing an arena in Minneapolis when Springsteen passed through town with the "Ghost of Tim Joad" tour in a theater down the street. He finished his show and ran over to join her for a loose "Pink Cadillac." "It was really strange because he was doing the theater tour and I'm in the big arena. What's the matter with this picture?" she said, laughing. "I told Bruce he kind of ruined it for me, because now I've got to wait 10 years" before doing her own acoustic tour. The future holds several sure things. One, she is going to star in a film about Janis Joplin next year, a role she was born to play. "I'm terrified. Oh, yes. That's part of the joy of it," she said. "I get to totally go throw myself into something that's terrifying, risky and exciting. And it's the cliche of rock stars wanting to act. I've seen many go down in flames. I've also seen many have respectable careers. "It's been something I've wanted to do since I was a child. The music took off and acting didn't. I know the reviews will be mixed. There'll be those who crucify me and those who are OK. I just hope it brings the story of Janis into the consciousness a little better. She's real important to rock 'n' roll." Then there will be the live album - someday. "We're always talking about the live album," Etheridge said. As are her fans. If you've never seen her play, then track down the "No Souvenirs" CD single, which contains an epic 10-minute blowout of "Like the Way I Do." Etheridge's concerts, from recent radio broadcasts to lousy audience recordings of her singing cover tunes in a Long Beach club, are among the hottest bootlegs out there. Her performances are almost without exception passionate, and she also will throw in just about any song she loves, be it Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get It On," Joplin's "Piece of My Heart" or anything from Springsteen. "All the interest in my live work is what gives me confidence that I'm going to be around," she said. "I may not sell a bazillion albums, but people are going to come see me." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:41:03 -0500 From: red19 Subject: happy everything wishing a happy whatever, to whomever, where-ever......peace : -> andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 17:24:50 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: DUTCH LISTERS MEETING (parts in dutch)!! Hello everybody, NEDERLANDERS OPGELET !!!! The final stage of organizing THE dutch listers-meeting has come to an end. I would like to thank all of the listers who participated in this. It was a lot of thinking and acting in the past days. We did the best we possibly can. Now I will announce the meeting in dutch for all Mel-fans in Holland. I hope you will forgive me that this isn't in english. I think there won't be many people from the states that will visit Holland just for a meeting of Mel-listers.... :-D ***************** Hallo allemaal, Het is zover! De organisatie van de eerste meeting van nederlanders (en mensen uit het grensgebied) is ten einde. We hebben zoveel mogelijk rekening met jullie gehouden en dit is wat besloten is: ______________________________________________________ Plaats : Nijmegen Datum : Zondag 26 Januari 1997 Tijd : van 16.00 tot 19.00 uur Locatie: Cafe 'De Fiets'(in een van de twee zaaltjes) Adres : Grotestraat 8 In het centrum van Nijmegen afstand Station - Cafe +/- 10 min. lopen _______________________________________________________ We hopen iedereen te ontmoeten die regelmatig de mailing list leest of er actief aan deelneemt. Laat even weten aan Marcel of Marleen dat je geinteresseerd bent zodat we weten op hoeveel mensen we kunnen rekenen. (Marleen) (Marcel) We hebben hele aardige reaties gehad uit het land en iedereen daarvoor dank! >> Alle mensen die nieuw zijn op deze list aarzel niet en reageer. >> Iedereen is van harte welkom en we hopen dat ook diegene die alleen >> de digest *lezen* of alleen de info-mails krijgen bij de meeting zullen zijn. >> Nogmaals, iedereen is welkom!! >> Aan deze meeting zijn geen kosten verbonden. >> De consumpties zijn uiteraard voor eigen rekening en eventueel (facultatief) >> een fantastische surprise voor het luttele bedrag van 25,- Wat betreft de tijd hebben we iets moeten afspreken. Mochten er mensen zijn die langer dan de afgesproken tijd willen blijven (waarschijnlijk behoren wij ook tot die catgorie :-D) dan kan dat natuurlijk altijd buiten zo'n zaaltje ergens in een kroeg. Laten we dat maar aan het moment overlaten. Het is mogelijk voor mensen uit de omgeving Delft/Den Haag/Rotterdam mee te rijden met een lister, die ons dat aanbood. Neem daarvoor contact op met Yvonne en vraag naar de mogelijkheden. Zet in de header iets van: 'meerijden meeting....' We hopen dat iedereen tevreden is met dit resultaat en we hopen veel mensen te ontmoeten in Nijmegen op zondag 26 januari! Vragen? aarzel niet en mail! Prettige feestdagen! ************************* This time we are not making a game out of this. The last translation quiz was not very popular :-))). We have a winner: The most talented translater in the whole world IS: J O Y C E L U C K!!!!!!! How about this announcement Joyce? :-)))) You all happy last days of this year and make yourself a fantastic new year! Greetings, Marcel. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:50:28 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Thought For The Day... Hello everyone... (((All MEListers))) I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas Eve and Christmas Day... And to all of you who celebrate other Holidays... I hope yours are happy, too... =) Marcy: Thanks... That's sweet and always nice to hear... =) I was thinking today about Miss Melissa... I am really proud of her for doing such an excellent job on this tour... I loved her show and I know that she must be very pleased with herself, to say the least... I hope she has a wonderful holiday with Julie and the little one... and her friends and family... Just resting and being peaceful. We all know she deserves it... I saw her on Leno and she looked so happy. Tired but happy.. And I am glad that the kid won't be named Burt... ;) Heh heh heh... I saw the "Happy Z-Mas/The War Is Over" video for the first time the other day, and I realized that I was at the show when that song was recorded... It was the Z100 Christmas show a few years back... I think I hear myself screaming... ... I just have to say that I think Linda Perry is all talk and hot air... When people feel the need to blast others and *threaten* them, so to speak... They are just insecure with themselves and don't feel too much confidence... I feel sorry for her that she needs to put others down just to feel good herself... I think she has a nice voice, but in my opinion Melissa Eheridge and Joan Osborne... Even the chick from the cranberries is better than Linda.. But maybe that's because she upset me... I do feel bad for people that have to act that way... But then, that's life... Well, I guess that's about it... I hope that we can head into 1997 with a fresh look on life and love for everyone in our hearts... I know I am going to... =) Happy Holidays Everyone... Happy New Year, too... =) Love and Peace, Kiva [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "... you may say that i'm a dreamer... but i'm not the only one..." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 13:30:58 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: quote >From the latest Cybersleaze: HOW TO GET RID OF THE PAPARAZZI WHEN YOUR LESBIAN LOVER IS PREGNANT QUOTE OF THE DAY: "To maintain our privacy, we've agreed to do press and TV and say, `Here we are. Look at her. Isn't she good and pregnant? Here's what two lesbians look like when they're going to have a baby'. And there's no photographers beating down our door." - MELISSA EHTHERIDGE dispenses some invaluable advice to her fellow celebrities. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:49:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: Just got home/ Merry Christmas Hi there, I just got home this morning. Timechange sucks !!!! WISH YOU ALL A MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will write my report soon !!! - To be ill during that 15 days was terrrible but anyway I had a great time. Talked to Melissa twice and one short hello before the San Diego show. But hung out on every showday with the crew and talked quite alot to Mark, John and Kenny (though I really missed Dave, Kenny is a great guy and he fitts very good to Mark, John and Melissa). Will give details later. Bye Tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:07:02 +0000 From: greg hawthorne Subject: Merry Christmas Hello All, I have not typed in for a while now.I been in Chat rooms 24/7, if you know what I mean. :) I just wanted to say that I hope all of you are having a wonderful time! May each and everyone of you get at least one thing you want. Merry Christmas to all of you, I hope its a good one!:) Danielle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:12:43 -0600 From: lw Subject: Happy Holidays A message to all listers... I'm relatively new to the list and am a champion lurker, but I wanted to emerge long enough to wish everyone a Happy Holiday season. May 1997 be a wonderful year for all of us!! Cloaking myself once again, LW ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:57:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: ME - LIVE - CD Hi again, I didn`t had any time to check my email jet. So I guess someone already mentioned it. There will be a OFFICIAL live CD from the San Francisco show. They had a recording truck at that show and Melissa confirmed that during the LA - Show. I think it will come out sometime next year. Talk to you later Tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:42:07 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: A Holiday Hug... Hello my friend... I just wanted to reach out and say Hello and Happy Holidays to you... I hope that this Holiday comes to you with hugs, love, happiness and smiles... May all your wishes and dreams come true this New Year and all the years to come... Love and Peace... Your Friend... Kiva [email protected] & [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 14:10:03 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: this war is over - i'm coming home... well, i finally made it back in town last night at 11 pm from los angeles, only to find that my brother had filed a missing persons report with the CHP (no joke!). he was expecting me in the wee morning hours [the original plan was to drive home to SF directly after the LA show, but the best laid plans sometimes fall by the wayside...;-) ], but we just couldn't wrest ourselves out of bed on monday morning. wasn't it mark twain who said, "the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated"? i'll lift my tired head to post a very brief note (i'm still in the doghouse, you know), before i take off to finish my last minute xmas shopping. what a fabulous week and a half of travelling! i cannot believe that this trip is over. there is this noticeable gaping hole in the pit of my stomach, but my heart is full of memories of 8 (!) wonderful MLE shows and meeting some terrific people. there are too many people to name right now, but i'll be sure to fill in the list on my trek after xmas. hi to barb and maureen from hornby island (the NW leg) - don't forget to leave early for a MLE show when there's a basketball game playing next door (game? what game? ). a very *sincere* MMITB call and response (oh, oh, oh, oh, oh!) for allison (aka edgy) and her roommate diane, who provided wonderful hospitable company, a warm inviting home, and so much more for 2 weary, bleary-eyed travellers. you can do my ironing any day. :-) finally, big back-breaking hugs and sloppy wet kisses for my travelling companions who were in it for the long haul: tim and jib. i miss you both horribly (jib - what did i say about driving while crying? some day, i'll actually follow my own advice). it can't really be over, can it? please tell me that we must hop on a plane right now for that "secret" honolulu show. time to wipe the tears from my face and hit the mall...more later. *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:04:29 -0700 From: Allison Fraiberg Subject: Elmo speaks Well I just caught a cutting-edge interview with this season's most famous red furry beast. Crack investigative journalist Lauren Sydney (from CNN's Showbiz Today) asked our dear Elmo who was his favorite celebrity guest on Sesame Street. When Elmo diplomatically said, "all of them," Sydney pressed the fuzzhead for more. He gave in, citing "Whoopi Goldberg and Melissa Etheridge" among others. And who said real journalism was dead? Glad to hear that those bleary-eyed travellers made it to SF ok. Cheers, Allison, who, in honor of her travelling guests, actually didn't change the channel when a Pretenders video came on this morning. Best shopping line heard this past week: "Because I'm the customer and I want to." P.S. Thanks Tim, both for your enthusiasm and for the pick! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:46:10 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: Bert On 12/23 Patti Fink wrote: "at *least* we can rest safely knowing it won't be Bert," speaking of course of the name for Melissa and Julie's baby. I dunno, I kinda like the name Bert, it's friendly, and it works whether it's a boy or a girl. I have a sister-in-law we call Bert (cuz her real name is Bertha). Then they could name their 2nd kid Ernie, which also works for male or female (short for Ernestine or Ernest). They'd have Bert and Ernie. Don't know if I'd go so far as to name the 3rd kid Elmo, but.... D'ya like the initials BC and EC better than AC??? I do agree with Melissa, I have to see some(one) to be able to name 'em, to see if the name fits. My cat named herself, I think. I tried out different names, til the right one happened. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:58:26 +0800 From: mardi Subject: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Hey...do you know one of the benefits of living in Australia.... we get to open our presents first!!! Happy whatever to everyone...Christmas day sure is nice from here! Hey, drinks at my house at 7.30..y'all wanna come over??? Mardi The Velvet Janes (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7848/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 22:51:25 -0500 From: Karen Vaughan Subject: Santa in florida(NMEC) SANTA IN FLORIDA 'Twas the night before christmas and all through the town No noses were frozen, no snow fluttered down No children in flannels were tucked in their bed, They all wore shorty pajamas instead.. To find wreaths of holly was not very hard, for holly wreaths grew in every back yard. In front of the houses were daddies and moms adorning the crotons and coconut palms. The slumbering kiddies were dreaming with glee that they would find water-skis under the tree. They all knew that Santa was well on his way in a red thinderbird instead of a sleigh. He whizzed up the highwayand zoomed up the roads in a snappy convertable peddling his load. As he jumped from the car, he gave a deep chuckle. He was dressed in bermudas witha ivy league buckle. There weren't any chimneys, but that caused no gloom, because Santa came in through the florida room. He stopped at each house, stayed only a minute, as he emptied his bag of toys that were in it. Before he departed, he treated himself to a glass of papaya juice left on the shelf. Leaped into his car and put it into gear and drove over the bridges singing with cheer. But we heard him exclaim as he went on his way, "MERRY CHRISTMAS sunny florida, I wish I could stay!" Author unknown Hope you like, i decided to post some holiday cheer, ( i usually just lurk around here) HAPPY HOLIDAYS FROM ST. PETERSBURG FLORIDA!!! Toni ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 23 Dec 1996 to 24 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Thu Dec 26 00:00:51 1996 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:00:16 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 24 Dec 1996 to 25 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 02:36:30 -0400 From: Tegan Godwin Subject: CA tour package goodies Just wanted to say what an awesome time I had in CA doing the tour package. The pictures I took are fabulous. Going to try to make a mini-non published book from the LA & SD show. Took 2 rolls at SD and 7 in LA. Up Close photos ranging from her lying on the floor jamming away, to her throwing her head around, to her playing with John and Mark. I'm in love with the photos. Everyone there was fantastic. Met alot a wonderful people. I also got to enjoy my plane ride home listening to the concert over and over again. Can we say "TREE BRANCH" on the final LA show done on a DAT unit. :) It will take a couple of days to get things started and about copies of the photos, whether by developer or color photocopier. Email me if anyone is interested. Tegan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:23:11 +1000 From: "GREIG, Stuart C (AACS)" Subject: Lyrics Query Quick Question for the guru's.... Here are two M.E quotes... What songs are they from... (i.e. Is it the same song ?) 1)"Remember how they taught you, how much of it was fear. Refuse to hand it down. The legacy stops here!" 2)"They feed you on the guilt, to keep you humble keep you low. Some man and myth they made up a thousand years ago." Regards, Stuart G ===================================================== Stuart C Greig Canberra, Australia Ph +61 (6) 2661729 URL http://www.acslink.aone.net.au/greig/ mailto:[email protected] ===================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:00:30 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Lyrics, Query >>[email protected] (GREIG, Stuart C (AACS)) asked: >>Quick Question for the guru's.... >>Here are two M.E quotes... What songs are they from... (i.e. Is it the >>same song ?) >>1)"Remember how they taught you, how much of it was fear. Refuse to >>hand it down. The legacy stops here!" >>2)"They feed you on the guilt, to keep you humble keep you low. Some >>man and myth they made up a thousand years ago." Both are from the same song, Silent Legacy, which is on Yes I Am. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 15:37:53 -0500 From: "S�bastien Laroche" Subject: Je suis de retour :)/ I'm back :) Salut tout le monde I'm happy to be back in the list with my new computer :))) I arrive just in time to wish you a merry chrismas full of pease, fun, love and MLE music Je suis content d'�tre enfin de retour sur la liste. J'arrive au bon moment pour vous souhaiter un joyeux noel rempli de paix, de plaisir, d'amour et de musique de MLE Joyeux Noel :) Sebastien Laroche Blainville, Quebec ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 24 Dec 1996 to 25 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Fri Dec 27 00:00:49 1996 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:00:14 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 25 Dec 1996 to 26 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:57:42 -0800 From: azmax Subject: am i sending them out right? never posted any messages on to the list so i'd like to know if this is going through...if yes, i'd like to say "hey there" to everyone and i'd like you all to know i enjoy reading all the mail sent. I now know im not as big of a fan as i should be but with your help, i know i'll get there soon! MAX ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 07:40:30 -0500 From: Tina Chambers Subject: atheism,interview Michelle wrote: > I try to live my life this way because, as an atheist, > I know that when I die I'll be all dressed up with no place to go. > Ah, but being an atheist does not *necessarily* exclude the existence of an "afterlife". It just negates the existence of a higher being. Much like the judgement thing that got the whole discussion started: if I touch a hot stove, I'm gonna get burned. My actions will have consequences, without anyone making some sort of decision or judgment about it, it just follows the law of nature. If (and obviously this is the cincher) there was such thing as existence after death, it does not necessarily mean that one (or several) entities are responsible for it, it too might be just a natural form of life. Personally, since there's no way of finding out until the time comes, I'm not too worried about it and share your sentiment about living -now- :-) Joyce wrote (quote from Orange County register): >About the only thing that hasn't been asked was whether this pregnancy >was planned. LOL....no, only about 100 times. And, since the mention, "sperm donor" in the same paragraph, how *would* it be accidental? Julie got drunk in a sperm bank, ripped off her clothes and had herself "turkey basted" by the first doc to look her way, only to not remember then the next morning?? Please!!!! >"It was really strange because he was doing the theater tour and I'm in >the big arena. What's the matter with this picture?" she said, >laughing. He knew which venues he could actually fill up?? Tina ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:28:26 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Silence Is Golden Melisters, Well, I made it through Christmas with all the joy and loving and eating of the turkey and such and I hope you all did to. It is quite quiet on here today and I am beginning to think I am the only one on the list today! And though the silence "is" golden, I miss you guys. We go out here into cyberspace and we share each others stories and lives and we laugh and we cry and we get up on our soap boxes and we shout out what we feel is right and what we beleive to be true. Then I stop sometimes in the middle of reading these posts and I ponder these things: "Did that really need said?" For I know it had to hurt someones feelings!!" Is this what we are about? Making statements that hurt others? Are we all just a bunch of insensitives? Is this how we want to live our lives? If so, we can all be lead singers for the 4 Non Blondes! Do you remember the first time someone said something to hurt your feelings! "OUCH" I think it is easy not to respond to posts if all we have to add is fuel for the flames. I am reminded of something that happened to me Christmas day. I had a warm and fun day and watched movies up until 11:00 p.m. when my mom asked me to take her to buy cigarettes. Note that last year she had by-pass surgery. I have begged, pleaded, sreamed, yelled and even cried trying to get her to stop this habit that is killing her. On the way to the store I lost it and yelled at her something I swore I was not going to ever do again as it did not work. After which we both ended up crying! Now I am hurt that I hurt her and feel like the biggest heal on the face of the earth. So I guess my New Year's resolution is to practice better ways of loving and expressing that love and to not say hurtful things to those I love and I hope that we all practice this in all our daily lives for surely isn't that what life is all about. And Oh! What A Wonderful world it would be! Enjoy the new year to come and let's hope for patience and understanding of all people. Here's to you all! "A Humble Pooh" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 19:17:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: ME-strings, postcards Hello, just wanted to let all the people know who sended me a postcard for the ME-String that I have now enough ME-strings for everyone who sended me a postcard. Just send me a letter with an envelope with your adress and 2$ for the stamps. You will than receive a string from Melissa`s Ovation she used during the 8 shows I saw in the last two weeks. Sorry I only have strings for the people who sended me already a postcard. Bye Tim Dunker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:48:47 -0800 From: Allison Fraiberg Subject: treadmill mix OK, the tour is over and julie and melissa are nestled in the hills waiting for elmo's newest fan to arrive. i, however, am back on the treadmill (and stairmaster and lifecycle and...) looking for good things to listen to as i sweat. so here's a question that might give us some melissa music to talk about: what's a good one hour melissa tape mix to use for working out if: 1) you're doing random hills on a stairmaster? 2) you're running for about 45 minutes on a treadmill? So, about 10 songs from anything Melissa has ever done (except those demos ) arranged in a "good workout format." I tried using my favorite boot today (Precious Pain) but got totally confused when "precious pain" came on as track five. Anyone wanna take a stab at it? Allison [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 14:10:25 -0500 From: Tami Higgs Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 24 Dec 1996 to 25 Dec 1996 Hello All! I have to say that I am also new to this list and have enjoyed it so far. I am a huge fan and would like to know how to write to Melissa and if she even gets her mail. Can someone help? I have a baby shower gift I would like to give to Melissa and Julie, but need to be able to actually write a letter first. Where do I send it? Email [email protected] if you can help me. Thanks and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! P.S. I especially enjoy the updates from the avid concertgoers and really like to hear the quotes from Melissa! Thanks for your time! Tami ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 14:25:38 -0500 From: "Deborah D. Jones" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 24 Dec 1996 to 25 Dec 1996 This is BeachDeb in Delaware hoping all of my fellow listers is having a wonderful holiday. Especially Melissa and Julie! Love, Deb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 14:59:57 -0500 From: Sue Molyneaux Subject: Sesame Tattoo Hi all I'm here for my twice-yearly email to the list. First, I was wondering if anyone had heard whether or not Sesame Street received any complaints from viewers when Melissa sang about the letter U. Did the right-wing religious coalitions miss this, or was it so squeeky-clean, no one could really protest? Second, for my birthday I received a book titled "Images in the Dark: An Encyclopedia of Gay and Lesbian Film and Video" by Raymond Murray. It includes a review of Teresa's Tattoo. BTW, completely NMEC, there's an intersting site on lesbians in film at: http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/6271 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:22:37 -0500 From: CJ Perrine Subject: Info from Kaman I just found this at www.kamanmusic.com. Used without permission. A Melissa Etheridge ad is slated for fall publication, a live shot of Melissa with her Adamas. Still in the midst of her International tour with typical success and her latest release "Your Little Secret" continues to fair well on the charts. Bassist Mark Browne is enjoying his new Viper Bass. This will be Melissa's first endorsement since her Adamas string ad in 1990. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:35:52 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: San Diego Hello, hello. Finally have the time and energy to report on my experiences at the San Diego show. I'm actually writing this at work on my lunch hour. Well, the ever-generous SueD was of course there providing light necklaces (and halos) to any desiring lister. Thank you, again SueD! I got 2nd row seats, but on the right (stage left?), and there was this TALL dark haired gentleman directly in my line of sight. Could it be, yes it was, Tim-mle's-German-superfan-Dunker! So I forgave him his height, especially since he's so cute when he dances, and he left to go to the b-stage fairly early in the show. Um, Melissa talked about Tijuana and sang in Spanish for it. Since I've never been there, or even in SD before, I didn't understand some of the stuff she said, but she sure got the crowd going talking about Tijuana. I didn't want to leave my seat until after she made love to Julie, er, I mean her guitar, so by the time I got back to the b-stage, there was already about 3 or 4 rows of women there. I couldn't get any closer. I'll tell ya, those Calif. crowds are much more "sophisticated" than I'd seen elsewhere (to put it nicely). Melissa was showered with all kinds of stuff back there. One woman handed her cellular phone up. John, who seems to kinda protect Melissa IMHO, like a sister, took the phone and asked what it was all about. I guess this person's friend could not attend the concert, so she wanted Melissa to say hi to him. Melissa took the phone and said "Hi, " and was corrected and said something like "Hi, Sam. We're all here, why aren't you? Sam?...Sam just passed out." Cool, I thought. Gave the phone back, and next thing she gets is nail clippers. I don't know if I missed something that made this person loan her the clippers, but Melissa took them, said something like "Oh, my nails are sooo long," and used the clippers and then gave them back!!!!!!!!! I find it very arousing to watch a lesbian clip her fingernails. Mmhmmm. MELISSA!!! I was taking some photos. As usual, she seemed to make eye contact with me, ham it up for the photos. I knew I wasn't gonna get closer to her, so I thought I'd head up to the front stage early. There were already women lining it, but I got so there was only one person between me and the stage. I was hoping to touch her pants. They were black velvet, with some kinda stripe (studs?) down the sides. Fit low-ish on her, with a belt and short-ish T-shirt, so that when she raised both arms, a bit of her belly was visible. Her cover-up shirt was blue, light blue on the top, and dark blue on the bottom 1/2. At first I thought the bottom 1/2 was wet, then I was ready to voluteer to do her laundry, I could get that stain out, then I realized it was cool, kinda like the ocean splashing up. Ooops, my lunch is over, guess I'll havta finish this later. Bak. Having read a lot of the list's discussion on "proper" audience behavior, I tried to be more sensitive to those around me. But the women in front of me at the front stage just stood there, not moving, not even breathing, I think. And it is nearly impossible for me to listen to Melissa without moving. And frankly, I like to yell, but I don't do it during songs or monologue, and I aim my face towards the ceiling. You know, it's also real hard not to bump into others in such a space, and I got looks from the 2 in front of me if I even bumped them slightly. I could just imagine them thinking "another out-of-control drunk." But I don't drink!!! So how do ya explain that? MELISSA!!! Anyway, when I told Kim (my gf) about this, she said she thought they were enjoying the concert in their own way (what a concept, and I think she was right, and she doesn't even read this list). And that she didn't think I was being rude. I did tell the women I didn't mean to bump them, I just get excited. They didn't say anything back to me. And, I really was trying to respect their space while still enjoying the concert. What a dilemma. In San Diego there was the best placement of the screens (they show the video on) that I've seen. They were positioned and angled in such a way so that we could actually see them from the front of the stage. Very nice. Um, during John's solo thing, Melissa usually sits in front of the drums on that platform, with Mark. This time she went behind it, and did not reappear until she was ready to come back into the light. And Mark was kinda standing back there, rather than sitting. Anyone know why this change? At first I thought she had ripped her pants, and had gone off stage to have them repaired, cuz they were talking about something before this, and John kinda looked at her back or butt and grinned, and she wasn't turning her back on the audience for a while there. And when she came back onstage her butt was baggy and her cover up shirt was hanging a lot lower. But then I figured maybe her pants were baggy from her getting heated up then sitting down.She again only kneeled and leaned into the audience from center stage, and I was not too close, but was able to touch my fingertips to the top of her head, and rub the end of the last 3 fingers on her right hand. The tips of her fingers were black and sorta calloused or flaky. Aww, what she does for us. Hope it doesn't hurt. My gf elected to try to stay in her seat, rather than go back and forth between the stages, thinking she'd get a big view of the show. This really didn't work, partly as tons of people rushed the stage, and lots of folks stood on chairs, so to see she had to satnd on her chair too, and it felt unsteady, and others climbed up to share, 2 to a seat. Etc. Um Janelle said she got a pick Melissa dropped, and was trying to do something to find a place for it, and momentarily stuck it in her mouth, AND IT TASTED LIKE SWEAT! Oh goddess I'm jealous. Well that's all for now. I'll write about LA soon. And Boise's Public Library finally got the Dec. 15th issue of the San Francisco Chronicle, so I copied that article on Melissa, and will report on anything interesting. Peace. -marcy mango ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:24:19 -0500 From: Sasha Friedman Subject: Re: Info from Kaman >This will be Melissa's first endorsement since her Adamas string ad in 1990. Does this ean her first Adamas endorsement, cause there are Ovation endorsements all the time... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 21:08:17 -0500 From: Mary Fiedorczyk Subject: Lyric Query.... Stuart....those lines are from Silent Legacy.....I live it everyday!!!! Probibly my favorite ME song..and the lil momolog she does at the concert before it left me shaking!!! Hope this helps! Mary ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 25 Dec 1996 to 26 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Sat Dec 28 00:00:50 1996 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:00:12 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 26 Dec 1996 to 27 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 22:58:42 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: LA Ok, here goes. I of course forgot some SD stuff, so that 1st: John wore his Indy 500 T-shirt. Someone threw white men's jockey underpants on stage during the encores, and Mark kinda teased him about them. Melissa in her honey-cutie way said she hoped her pronunciation of the Spanish was ok, that she is a beginner at this. She said something about saying "circus" instead of "heaven" and that that was (would be?) weird..."I'm so close to the circus." For the LA show her performance was very polished, smooth, constant positive energy, happy, having fun it seemed, voice wonderful. She talked about some of the things she likes about LA, one being the "drive." I appreciated the pun. She pointed out where she had sat in this arena for Prince, Michael Jackson, U2, and some others I can't at this moment recall. She wore her black leather skin tight pants, black cow(boy) boots well-worn, blue denim (?) shirt with the embroidery on it. That shirt is well-loved, even the elbows have been patched (from the inside). She sang "Me and Bobbie McGee" (sp.) from the b-stage. I can see why she does that back stage thing now, since I didn't go to the b- this time as it was such a long way back I knew I'd never make it to a decent location if I tried. You know I can't stand to miss up close enjoyment of that guitar-loving thingy, can't leave for the b- until that's done. So...I could then barely see her cuz I went up to the front stage and the screens weren't where we could see them, tall people were in my line of sight to the b-, and the sound was distorted enough that I couldn't understand what she was saying when she talked. I know she said something like she "wanted to thank Julie for being so cool, to stand by her side." I'm so literal I expected Julie to then walk on stage. D'oh. She said something like in 2 hours she'd be all hers (Julie's). It must be heck for Melissa to be away from her partner for so much of their first pregnancy. There were 3 buses of Tour Package MEINers, and a MEIN employee told me there were altogether about 444 MEIN members in one area on the floor. There were several things for Melissa the MEIN's were organizing, and I must say pulled off exceedingly well considering. SueD and her light brigade: wooden frames with Xmas lights attached, each letter of U R HEAVEN separate and about 3 feet high. They had a bit of trouble getting security to let them in. They turned them on at the beginning of the show, Melissa took a minute before she figured out what they said. What a smile that woman has, shines out of her eyes. Later in the show we blew up the balloons from Tim, which had "Merry Xmas, Melissa, we'll miss you" printed on them. This was supposed to be timed so all the balloons would go up at once, to make an impression, timed to go at a certain song. But you know how folks are, some went up at all sorts of times. But the majority of them did go at Tim's signal, and Melissa noticed, commented and smiled. Said something like "they just keep coming, poop-poop-poop." She liked it. Mission accomplished. Then we were supposed to all sing a verse of Merry Xmas to her at some point in the show, as a group. I was trying to participate, and even so kept getting conflicting info about when to sing. So finally I was told to sing when so and so stood up. Yeh, right, by then everyone was standing. Well, whoever must have grasped this, cuz she got on someone's back or shoulders and yelled 1, 2, 3 to begin the singing. It worked great. (Who was that woman?) Melissa then started a chant of "who has the best fans, who has the best fans..." YAY! At the end of the concert when the whole band was lined up hugging and bowing, just as they were starting to separate, Melissa kinda leaned into John and pressed her head into his neck. He kissed the top of her head. So sweet, this is just the way my best friend Richard (who is a gay man, if you're keeping track) treats me. Awww, so sweet. I'm glad she has people near her who care so much for her (since I can't be there ). At the end of the show Melissa thanked people, she actually named all her support people, amazing! Then she started saying something like "thanks to all the dentists, doctors..." and I thought she was talking about her own, you know she has beautiful teeth, but has had some dental work, no? But then she went on to name other professions, etc, she was thanking her fans, in other words. Said "thanks for coming, and you probably even have to work tomorrow" or something like that. Another highlight was that SueD loaned us a bootleg tape of Melissa singing "Let's Get It On" we played on the bus ride back to the hotel. WOW! I thought I knew what it meant to be carressed by a voice, but this topped all such previous experiences which I would have described thusly. Kim is SOOO eager for a copy. I think my report on SD was more a report on my experience, than on Melissa per se, so I tried to do the first part of this report more on the concert stuff, but the following is more like my experiences. We got 5th row center seats, far enough in and back as to make taking photos easy. I got so excited I took almost all the photos in my roll immediately, with shaking hands. D'oh. Um, standing in the line to go to the bathroom I noticed there was no line into the men's, and a huge, long line to the women's. I suggested to those around me that we should block the men's door and temporarily take over their bathroom. Those nearest to me in line increased the distance between them and me, and glazed their eyes over. Oh, yeh, I'm not in Boise, you're not supposed to talk to strangers in line. I imagined they were wondering if I was crazy, dangerous, or both. I kept jabbering away, so unlike me, and gradually some started talking to me. One commented on how quickly the line was moving. It was pretty amazing how fast it did move. Those wimmin must have been setting pee-speed records, no one wanted to miss a second of Melissa. Some women actually did go in the men's room. I was too chicken. All talk. I know everyone says this, but I swear Melissa was making lots of eye contact with me during the concert. (Kim even commented about it when she saw some of my photos from this concert. I said yeh, she was until I started kissing you, Kim said "you blew it," I said no I didn't). Seemed to me Melissa "made love" to her guitar several times in this concert, she'd kinda start to go into it, kinda start kneeling down at other times besides "the big one." We also decided not to try to go to the b-stage, cuz it was so far back, and California audiences are rather shall we say prepared. Instead we went up to the front stage when others were going to the back, and still couldn't get to front and center! Um, at the front stage, before Melissa got back to it, there was one (drunk) woman in particular who kept dancing and rhythmically bumping into me, as if to move me out of the way so she could get closer to the stage. I had to pretend I was playing basketball, and setting myself to block out others from rebounding. Well, you know how Melissa's music is, this woman started really getting into the beat more, and I think she may have, perhaps, forgotten who I was. I finally turned to her and said, "y'know, the way you're going, I bet with one well-placed finger you would come." She soon moved away, I think she got a better offer. I did end up getting close enough to the stage to see but not feel Melissa spit while singing and to notice her hair on her arm (sparse, dark but not too). I forgot to bring my orange "U," left it sitting on the bed in the hotel. Got to interact a bit with some MEIN employees, very nice people. And of course others in the Tour Package. We were in line joking with some MEINers about whether security was gonna frisk us on the way in. I said I put my camera down the back of my jeans, the woman in front of me said she couldn't. I looked at her, she had on not jeans but skin tight black tights, and so I said, yeh, no room for anything extra there. Kim and I started enjoying the view, and the woman's gf laughed and stepped behind her to block our view. Girls will be girls. Got some e-mail address, and one snail mail address. Have already sent a note to the e-mails, not to the snail mail. After the show there was a party at The Palms. We stayed for one and 1/2 dances. Nice place, as those places go. But Kim had to work Mon., we got 3 hrs sleep before having to get up to fly home. Almost recovered, I think. I sure will miss that woman. There is NOTHING that compares to seeing her in person. -marcy mango ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 08:16:02 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: "Cheers" "SPLASH" There now, I think we are all cooled off with a bucket of ice water thrown on everyone!! "Whew Wee!!!" Just look at that steam rise! And various other things! :) Okay! So I am feeling ornery this morning! At least I am having fun!! For I think have we forgotten how to do that???? Sometimes when I read the threads on here lately I have to heed the advise of Bruce Willis from the Die Hard movies and take my shoes off and rub my fuzzy toes in the carpet to relax and get things back into perspective. We are here to gather together in celebration of "The Music" and "The Goddess Of The Music!" Daily people say things we do not agree with on our jobs and on the streets but we do not attack them verbally nor do we stand upon soapboxes in the streets and ridicule them for having an opinion. What a boring life it would be if we all were the same and thought the same and walked and dressed and acted the same. Each and every life is a treasure and a gift. And if we meet and become friends do we become hateful with our friends if they have a different opinion than ours? I think not! Tigger loves to bounce people and roll them upon the ground. Surely not everyone wants to be bounced but a good tumble once in awhile makes us glad to get back up on our feet and run again.And play with Tigger. Piglet on the other hand finds it hard to be brave for he is such a small animal. I bet there are alot of Piglets sitting and reading these flame wars and scared to death to step forward and say anything for fear that their opinions will lead them to becoming fried on a stick. And Pooh well she is a bear of little brain and doesn't understand at all what would make people carry on in such ways. But a party in the woods and lots of sweetness seems to make things alright again so let's all step back and beleive that life is precious and so to is the opinions of others. Cheers to all and a big warm fuzzy hug to everyone. Sincerely, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:41:34 -0500 From: Loretta Myers Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 25 Dec 1996 to 26 Dec 1996 In a message dated 96-12-27 00:06:13 EST, you write: Pooh said: << Now I am hurt that I hurt her and feel like the biggest heal on the face of the earth. >> Pooh, I'm sure that was a typo when you wrote heal and meant heel, but what an apt one. You are certainly a healing presence on this list--at least, to me. Loretta ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:19:19 -0500 From: Toni Robinson Subject: sweating, U, etc. >From: Allison Fraiberg >OK, the tour is over and julie and melissa are nestled in the hills >waiting for elmo's newest fan to arrive. i, however, am back on the >treadmill (and stairmaster and lifecycle and...) looking for good things >to listen to as i sweat. so here's a question that might give us some >melissa music to talk about: What a great idea..maybe ME will release a work-out tape..some compilation of previously released and remixed stuff (seems to me she'll know somebody who's gonna want one of these in a month or so..) LTWID has to be on it of course..but I'd save PP for the wind-down. >From: Sue Molyneaux >from viewers when Melissa sang about the letter U. Did the right-wing >religious coalitions miss this, or was it so squeeky-clean, no one could >really protest? I think it snuck past them..at least I didn't hear anything about it. >intersting site on lesbians in film at: >http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/6271 Great site..thanks for referring it! >From: Christine >I just thought I'd share this heartwarming subject line and response from >Elaine Naiman, who took the time and energy to address my last message >posted on the digest. Wow. You know, Miss Elaine truly knows how to (Not quoting that lame subject line) I think we all could have done without this. I'm sorry you received it, but sorrier you chose to share it. Those that can play nice should. As some of you know I've been suckered into flame throwing contests, but I don't do nasty and you shouldn't either. Not worth it..bad karma..leaves a bad taste in everybody's mouth and its not news to most people anyway. Start the new year out right and wash that muck right outta your hair grrl. Hope everybody had a wonderful December, Hanukkah, Christmas, Solstice, or whatever one might have chosen to celebrate this month. Today I'm celebrating my 5th year with the most wonderful woman on earth and I'm here to say THANK YOU GODDESS for the blessings you have bestowed upon me. It's also my puppy's 8-week birthday tomorrow. I know you're all dying to see her, so here she is: http://www.erols.com/dilligaf/charm/ Toni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:50:48 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: Baby Shower Gifts >>> Tami Higgs 12/26/96 02:10pm >>> writes: >I am a huge fan and would like to know how to write to >Melissa and if she even gets her mail. Hmmm...I don't know...can a person send mail to Island Records for MLE? Or MEIN? >I have a baby shower gift I would like to give to Melissa and >Julie, I do believe that they've requested no more gifts, haven't they? Maybe just a nice card with your best wishes would suffice. :-) jen, half afraid to post... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:16:19 +0000 From: Margaret McArdle Subject: Greetings to all Happy New Year to you all from Ireland. Thanks to those concerned for their reports of the final shows,more please, I must admit I'm surprised there weren't any "guest" appearences or set extensions for the final gig,but seeing how tired MLE looked on Leno I'm astonished they were still as long. With the Tour now finished I only hope the List dosen't "dry up" for a while,I especially await for news of the movie,live disc not to mention the new arrival. As a result of subscribing to this list I've learnt alot musically amongst other things & hope to continue to do so, Good wishes to you all, Margaret (who voted in the VH-1 poll even though she had to pay for it transatlantically,such is devotion ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 13:45:47 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: The Heart That Gives Poohster here! Thanks Loretta for correcting my spelling! :) Should have used spellcheck I guess! But thne I yam a bare of wittle brane!!!!! I wove u aniway! :) Humor! Ahhh! To laugh at oneself is the best medicine! How do you know you have a good heart??? I can tell you all. It is quite simple! Upon arrival of a gift I had ordered for Christmas I made the mistake of opening and looking at how it looked once it arrived. This gift just happened to be "The" denim jacket from MEIN. :) Oh My God! Said I! I just did not think I could give it away after looking at how neat it was. But come Christmas morning it was wrapped and beneath the tree. And it was well worth it to see the surprise in the eyes and how excited it made the person who received it. If only I would have received a Melissa gift I would have been very excitable but alas January is birthday time so I have my paws crossed! But my point is: If you can give away a Melissa gift that you yourself don't even own, then you have a big heart, a warm heart, and a good heart and remember: The heart that gives is a happy heart and shall be full and warm in the long run! Besides I did get new tools! And life on "Bear Mountain" will never be the same! Much Warmth, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:38:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: Yes I am a cute dancer !!!!! Hi there, Marcy Kunst wrote yesterday: >I got 2nd row seats, but on the right (stage left?), >and there was this TALL dark haired gentleman directly in my line of >sight. Could it be, yes it was, Tim-mle's-German-superfan-Dunker! So I >forgave him his height, especially since he's so cute when he dances, >and he left to go to the b-stage fairly early in the show. This sounds pretty much like me !!! ESPECIALLY THE "CUTE" DANCING !!!! Sorry for being tall. I allways have some problems with this and many discussions about the right being up front when there are people who are smaller than I am behinde me and this happens way to often......... Bye Tim Dunker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:52:12 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: "Cheers" In a message dated 12/27/96 8:18:20 AM, [email protected] (Jane Vaughn) wrote: <<"SPLASH" There now, I think we are all cooled off with a bucket of ice water thrown on everyone!! "Whew Wee!!!" Just look at that steam rise! And various other things! :)>> Thanks Pooh! It felt great!!! I had enough steam come off to heat my home for a winter in the North East! LOL! Francie :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 17:57:03 -0500 From: [email protected] Subject: Homophobia Hey All! I thought we needed something else to talk about since our beloved Melissa has now officially ended her tour. Plus, I think I have way too much time on my hands.:-) Homophobia.....I was thinking today about my past experiences with homophobics in college. Having participated in athletics, I was exposed to what seemed to be three definite groups of women. The lesbians, straight women who accepted lesbians and even were friends with them, and the third group was the homophobic, supposed straight women who badmouthed and looked down upon the lesbians. In almost all the cases of women in the third group, by the time they graduated from college or within a time period of five years after graduation they ended up becoming lesbians. What, you all ask, is the point of this interesting discovery that our fellow Melissa fanatic is trying to make? Well, I think that some people "protest too much" when it comes to the subject of homosexuality. Those people, who are the most insecure with their sexuality, seem to be the ones who are the most homophobic. Deep inside they may have feelings for someone of the same sex and it scares them to death.....they don't know how to handle it. So, they try to deny those internal feelings by externally "freaking" out about homosexuality. These women seem to be the ones who are the most vocal about denouncing it and all the lesbians they come in contact with. Inevitably, some of these women finally come to terms with their sexuality, and become what they were, imo, inherently and genetically determined to be...lesbians. Suddenly, that bitterness goes away, because they are at peace and not fighting that terrible inner battle. A battle they would not have to fight if only our society would have more understanding of gays and lesbians, and the fact that we are born this way. Ok, have I really gone off the deep end here? Anybody else have similar experiences with homophobic women like mine? Keep in mind, anybody that wishes to disagree with me, that these are only my experiences. I am not personally projecting anything about anyone........ I have one comment to make about the subject of prejudices gay people face as opposed to the ones people of Jewish faith for example face, that was discussed in an earlier digest. That's like comparing apples and oranges! I am not belittling any of the prejudices that any people of "different" races, religions, women, whoever face. But, the fact is, that I personally know of no person who woke up one morning and because of the fact that they were Jewish, a woman, black, etc., decided that the internal and external pressures and prejudices they faced were too much, so they put a gun to their head. Most of my fellow gay listers could probably name, if not one person, probably several people they knew or knew of, who did just that, because they couldn't handle the fact that they were gay and all the baggage that comes with it. Wow, this is really a cheerful post, isn't it? Sorry!! I warned you all that I had way, way too much time on my hands! Jill ( Who really wishes she would have had the floor seats she had at the YLS concert for the YIA concert two years ago. I came to that conclusion after traveling over the holidays and listening to Never Enough and Brave and Crazy on my drive) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 18:15:01 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: Sweeping up the debris... Hi, all-- This particular post isn't really meant to accomplish much... only to let off a bit of steam. Maybe someone will get something out of it, but if not, then so be it. The past couple of weeks have left a bit of a sour taste in my in-box. I've found myself pretty much disappointed with a few listers...not that it I expect people to care what I think of them, for that would be more than a tad bit pompous on my part. Perhaps I've taken it more personally than I normally would have, given the fact that I'm supposed to be moderating stuff like this latest war and it got out of hand. It saddens me to see, amongst a generally mature and cordial group of people, some people who cannot (or will not) air their differences in that same mature, cordial manner. Now again, maybe I'm over-reacting. For the most part, however, I'm basically a pissed puppy right now. It's true that, at some point, I could've stuck my little head in the door and said, "Enough is enough," and, given my 20/20 hindsight, that's what I *should've* done. But I simply felt as though working through private e-mail to try and dampen the coals would work and that the folks who could handle such discussion (as they've proven they could do in the past) would get things ironed out and someone just might learn something from it all. I guess this time, however, I was wrong. I've garnered a new respect for Deb and the yeoman's duty that she performed as list moderator. For the first few months that I did this moderating thing, I was a bit confused over just how heavy-handed a person had to be to prevent things like this latest war from breaking out. My sole intent in taking over for Deb was to keep MLEther a "safe, fun place the whole family could enjoy." I certainly wanted to be able to discuss all sorts of NMEC, since that is, as far as I'm concerned, the nucleus of our little (?) group. I wanted to make sure that we were free to discuss our differences without such ugliness as has come about in the past week or so. At this point, I'm not so sure if that's possible any longer. Since I've moderated MLEther, I've been accused of infringing upon 1st Amendment rights, of playing favorites with certain listers, and of stifling discussion on the list. So, in the spirit of stepping back and re-assessing the situation to which I was new, I decided to back off just a bit and see how things went if I let them take their course. It worked with the "Bi-Sexual" thread...but obviously not this one. So, back to the drawing board I've gone and you know what I've discovered? My original plan of action ain't lookin' too shabby right now (someday, I'll learn to follow my first instincts...they're usually the best). So, here I sit with my little 'Moderator' armband around my right arm, ready to go at this again. I personally don't think that every single person here is capable of discussing anything but their own opinions and how they are right versus how someone else shouldn't get ruffled or insulted over certain topics; that some people dish shit just to dish shit, thereby rendering themselves non-enitities to the list because only vitriol is expected to come from their keyboards and no one takes them seriously; that some people are a hell of a lot more sensitive than they ought to be over certain subjects or certain 'tones of voice' and that they ought to learn to take mailing lists with a grain of salt and either over-look that which pisses them off or respond to it off-list...away from those people who either 1) don't care or 2) will jump into the fray and really get things going just because they love to fight. And you know what? If you're on this list only to fight and jump into the middle of a potential war just to show everyone what a good flame thrower you are or because you think it's neat to slam people publicly 'cause you can do it w/o getting your ass kicked...then my suggestion is for you to hit the high road, because, as far as I'm concerned, I ain't puttin' up with it any more. I'll be damned if this is going to turn into a virtual battleground just because some people think it's fun. I've met too many people (not too many in person, but through private mail) who are too nice and too special to me, and who have been around here a lot longer than I've been here, to let this happen on this list. I can truly say that, even with the scuffles that have happened in the past, this is still the nicest place on the 'net. I intend to keep it that way. Well, that said, I guess I'll go now. I'm not even going to apologize for stepping on toes, as I'm sure I'd be apologizing all weekend long. If anyone has any differences with what I've had to say, feel free to mail them to me...I did not write the above with the intention of starting another war and I would appreciate it if no one sets it on fire on-list. Say anything you want to say to me if you're going to be nasty, but at least have the decency to nail my ass off-list. As always, disagreement is welcome on the list, and I'm sure there are a great many of you out there who can--and will-- disagree with parts of this is a civil way. So be it. You be the judge of what's appropriate for the list and what's not. I would sincerely like to wish all of MLEther a pleasant weekend and a terrific start to the new year (provided you're celebrating, that is)...and all of you should take care. jen--sad/pissed/tired. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 20:07:50 -0500 From: "S�bastien Laroche" Subject: MLE Pic in the "Journal de Montreal" Salut tout le monde For those who are interested in the today's edition on "the Journal de Montr�al" http://www.i-cor.com/jdem/ on page 58 a section call : "Best shots of 1996" we saw a nice picure of MLE of his Montreal concert marsh 22. (You nead Acrobat2.1 to see the picture) We can read under C'est � Melissa Etheridge qu'est revenu l'honneur de donner le dernier spectacle � l'ancien Forum en mars dernier. "Une partie de moi restera ici � jamais", affirmait la chanteuse rock qui aime beaucoup montr�al. (It's to Melissa Etheridge to have the honner to give the last concert in the old Forum last march. "A part of me will stay here forever" said the Rock singner who love a lot Montr�al.) On the front page of today edition we can see that our greatest singner C�line Dion give over 2 milions dollars of gifts to her familiy (she have 13 brothers and sisters!) Bonne fin de Semaine Sebastien Laroche ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 26 Dec 1996 to 27 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Sun Dec 29 00:00:48 1996 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:00:12 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 27 Dec 1996 to 28 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 23:10:42 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: NMEC > completely NMEC, there's an > intersting site on lesbians in film at: Hey, what is "NMEC"? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:50:28 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: homophobia Jill said: >Those people, who are the most insecure with their sexuality, seem to be the ones who are most homophobic. There is truth in some of what she says...I know I was my most blatantly hetereosexual right before I came out. I even had photos from Playgirl magazine on my Dorm wall. (My roomie finally made me put fig leaves over their you-know-whats...she is the woman I eventually came out with, ironically). I was in denial about my sexulaity, I think, it scared me to think I might be "one of those." I think I got Lezzie's mixed up with lizards in my brain, and had a distorted idea of what lizards were, too. I didn't want to be green and slimy and crawl under doors. onward and upward.... -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:17:53 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: YCSWID tour - prologue - the non-stop drive to spokane thankfully, i've managed to miss the recent flame wars. i probably could set my watch based on the annual religious one. i also know that nothing will be able to wipe the goofy grin from my face or the wonderful memories i've compiled over the last 2 weeks during my MLE west coast tour. and my pictures just came back today from the one-hour photo place ! yes, i accept bribes. i've affectionately coined my MLE west coast tour (8 shows, leno taping, and 4,000+ miles later) as the "You Can Sleep While I Drive" tour or the "Austin/Bert College Fund" tour for reasons that are fairly obvious. i won't get very far on my travelogue tonight, because i'm sporting quite a beaut of a cough that thankfully didn't rear its ugly head until xmas day. you could say i've been DUNKER-ized (hi, tim!). :-) similar to being SHANK-tified, i'm sure. so, with brief respites for popping halls mentholyptus cough drops, i humbly begin... *planning stages* the tour was coordinated about 2 months in advance, once MLE announced her west coast dates. after i saw the dates, i knew that i could definitely see 4 shows without any problems (tacoma, portland, SF, and sacto). seeing tim's post about how he wanted to come over for MLE's last shows was what really started the ball rolling. i posted something similar about how i also wanted to see several shows, which then caused jib to write me privately about wanting to join in on the tour. the psychic connection was made...great minds think alike. before i knew it, 4 shows turned into 5 shows (plus spokane) which subsequently turned into 7 shows (plus SD and LA). then, the leno taping! (note: during the drive to tacoma from spokane, i thought to myself as tim slept that jib wouldn't have to do much arm twisting to get me to go to the phoenix show . hence, the 8th show...) many messages with jib and tim clinched the tour itinerary. my initial 3 hour ('tis true) phone conversation with jib closed the deal. :-) *the final countdown* got a call from tim on 12/8 who had just arrived at his hotel in LA. we finalized our plans and talked about how excited we were to meet each other on 12/11. talked to jib again for 1.5 hours on 12/9. can barely contain myself with excitement. *tim arrives* right after seeing the 12/10 las vegas show (and meeting sue d and her pal janelle after sue won the ovation), tim drove up to the SF bay area to pick me up for the beginning of our NW tour. after some brief errands, we were off at 12:30 pm with yours truly at the helm of the trusty rented buick regal! *the 17 hour drive to spokane* by far, the toughest part of the trip. at least, we got it over with in the beginning. we had some concerns about travelling through the snoqualamie pass (the pass in the cascade mountains just east of seattle), so we decided to drive to spokane by following the columbia river in oregon and then cutting up through the middle of washington. in hyndesight (think i've been hanging around you too long, jib? ), perhaps we should have chanced the pass. since tim had been driving all night after the las vegas show, i drove as far as i could, so that he could relieve me later on in the evening. we stopped briefly in the central valley (california) so tim could get his sleeping bag out of the trunk, and we stopped once again in grants pass (oregon) for gas, bathroom stops, and food (i made PB&J sandwiches). we finally stopped somewhere on Hwy 205, just southeast of portland, at 11 pm, where we called jib and told her that we'd be arriving about 5:30 am. this is when i finally handed off the keys to tim, as my eyes were just about ready to pop out of my head at this point. unfortunately, this is when we hit the worst weather of our trip. tim definitely deserves the "driving medal of honor" for this leg. we took 205 to Hwy 84 (the route that follows the columbia river). it suddenly began pouring heavily (we had had some rain off and on throughout the trip). the car was hydroplaning, because of all the standing water on the road. this lasted until we reached the dalles, when the rain eased to a slight drizzle. i had been trying to sleep during the downpour, but realized soon enough that this was a losing battle (the sound of the standing water hitting the underside of the car was rather alarming and certainly didn't help ease my fears). the drive was pretty uneventful for the rest of the time we were on Hwy 84. we crossed the columbia river and were finally in washington (yeah!). suddenly, we hit a very thick patch of fog. picture it: it's completely pitch black (no lights on the highway), thick fog is swirling past, and you're driving in a white car with 2 pretty sleepy MLE fans. thankfully, we drive out of the fog. soon, we notice smatterings of snow at the side of the road. more and more snow...now, the snow is creeping more and more towards the roadway. shit, not only is snow on the road, it's now falling from the sky, and we have hit more severe fog. white snow, white fog, white car...i'm trying to stay awake so that tim stays awake. i'm nodding off...the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. keep talking to each other. just when we think we can't take anymore of this torture, we arrive in spokane! we follow jib's directions to her house. it's stopped snowing, but everything is covered in a thick blanket of snow. we arrive at her house uneventfully and dreaming of some quality snooze time. i get to make the first footsteps in the virginal (there are so few of those left! ) white snow on her walkway. i knock, jib answers the door along with her dogs, and i say: "didn't i tell you that we'd arrive at 5:30?" ...to be continued... *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:27:08 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: 3 days to '97! Marcel wrote: >I have read all the massages about Elaine, I didn't know Elaine was a masseuse! >I hope 1997 will get the best year for you all and for this list. I wish a happy '97 to all of you too. I haven't decided yet if I want to make a New Year's resolution this year, and if so, what to resolve. What are other people's New Year's resolutions going to be? (ooh, this could turn into quite an interesting thread! ;)) Aaron :) "I see your face every place that I walk in I hear your voice every time that I'm talkin' You will believe in me, and I will never be ignored" --Garbage ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 12:47:29 -0500 From: Kathie Green Subject: Trade Videos Does anyone have a video copy of the show Melissa did at the Viper Room in November that they would like to trade? I've have copies of 20/20 special, David Letterman, Duets with the girls, plus some older stuff - VHI - Roots of Rock & Roll, VH! Honors, Arsenio Hall Show, VH1 Lifebeat, Woodstock '94 If any one is interested in a trade for a tape of the viper room show and any other material, please email me. thanks Kathie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:18:29 -0500 From: Diane Boccadoro Subject: Something to think about Whew! Guess I picked the right coupla weeks to be too busy to read my digests. Work has been so hectic that yesterday I realized I hadn't read any list stuff since the first week of December. I decided to read just the last few days' worth to catch up and HOLY COW! Things have gotten a little nuts. I hope it's not too late to try to inject a little positive energy (and maybe a tad of insight). I agree w/Jen Smith when she said some people are too sensitive about certain subjects. I think everyone is sensitive about things that are close to their hearts. But most people have the intelligence to separate their feelings from fact and the restraint not to attack on first instinct. I used to be very sensitive about a lot of things and very eager to defend my views and make others admit how right I was. I see now I had a lot of misplaced anger (childhood trauma; you know the drill), and since I couldn't direct it toward the people who caused it, I directed it toward anyone I thought was attacking me. I also realized that my perceiving others' differing opinions as attacks was very self-absorbed and immature. Not everyone who has a different view is necessarily negating mine. But I was too wrapped up in my own baggage to see it at the time. I think that happens a lot on the list. When I finally realized that not everybody had a mission in life to instigate arguments with me, and that not every comment was directed at me, my own instigation tendencies stopped. The world DID NOT revolve around me and my neuroses. Amazing! I also felt like a weight was lifted from my shoulders because I wasn't constantly anticipating my next offensive move. Sorry if this sounds soap-boxy. I guess the holidays and the little bit I caught of this list madness made me appreciate how much I've grown and how much better I feel about myself on a day-to-day basis (after a coupla years of therapy I should hope so!) and how sad it is that many people are never even aware of who they really are and why. Maybe those who engage in this instigation will see themselves and try to stop; maybe others will become a little more tolerant of those who instigate and not feed into the frenzy. (And maybe not! But we can hope.) I think Pooh said it best: "To laugh at oneself is the best medicine." It ain't always easy, but here's hoping we can all do that a little more in the new year. Diane B. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:33:32 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Breathless in LA Marcy Kunst has given us a couple of outstanding reports of Melissa's concerts in SD and LA. I'd like to comment, but truly, Marcy, you leave me breathless. -- Dan Cohen in Toronto [email protected] http://www.canscape.com/dancohen ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 27 Dec 1996 to 28 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Mon Dec 30 00:00:48 1996 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:00:12 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 28 Dec 1996 to 29 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:15:19 EST From: M Something Subject: Kare Package Well, the Punster arrived in Florida safe and sound today and we've been moaning and groaning for hours (due to all the bad puns, of course.) Get your minds out of the gutter. Kare is also using the bad pun excuse to explain her sore mouth. ;) We've had quite a time already. One of the funniest moments so far was when Kare tried to pun in the ladies room of a local bar. Before we went in, we were waving to the very nice restroom attendant through a window which looks out onto the bar's patio. When we went in, Kare said, "I hope she doesn't give me any sh*t." We doubled over because it was an unexpected pun, believe it or not. I was hysterical when she told the attendant that she was feeling FLUSHED and that we weren't trying to STALL, but they just went right over the attendant's head. She just kept chatting nicely with Kare as I was ROTFL. (Maybe you just had to be there, but I was "bowled" over. It took me a while to get a "handle" on things. And we weren't even "tanked" up.) As we were walking down the street, this Marcel Marceau type person would perform robotic movements for anyone who threw money in his bucket. Kare said, "He must have MIME disease." I should have given her the silent treatment for that one. Hi, it's me Kare. Michelle and I are just cracking up over here. My mouth does hurt from laughing so much, it really does. Before I was going to write something we were punning away about doctors and trying to be "patient", but Michelle kept "needling" me about it. I just told her it was worth a "shot". Ok, I'm going now. I've been up since 4:30 (CST) this morning.....and I have to go ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Michelle again. Well, as you can see, Karen just fell asleep on the keyboard. It was a "stroke" of luck that she didn't hurt herself. Does anyone know how to get a "Caps Lock" button out of someone's forehead? Beware, we're not through punning yet. Stay tuned. Same bat time, same bat channel. At least you weren't blind-sided. Kare just woke up and told me I've gone "batty". OK, OK, even I'm saying enough now. :) Michelle and Kare who know a movie projectionist who got a ticket for falling asleep behind the reel. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 23:30:43 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: YCSWID tour - 12/12 spokane show *tour recap* when we left our weary travellers, they had just arrived at jib's house in spokane at 5:30 am after driving 17 hours from the SF bay area (tim had been driving for about 27 hours), ready for some serious snooze time. *sleep!* tim and i plunked down on jib's 2 couches and slept for about 5 hours. of course, part of that time was spent waking up to sneak doggie kisses smack right in the face (thanks, dustin and mulder!). a hint to the wise: if you're ever trying to sleep while affectionate doggies are trying to kiss your face, pull your sleeping bag over your head. it works wonders. *wake-up* jib had to run off for the 1st of her 2 law school finals that day, so we didn't see much of her until the afternoon. met barb and maureen who had arrived the previous day from canada. we travelled with them for the spokane, tacoma, and portland shows. mulder was so happy (not!) that strangers had invaded his mommy's space that he decided to read anne rice's "interview with a vampire" (the paperback version) by ripping out each individual page and shredding it into tiny pieces. quite a talented pooch! at least, he's got good taste in literature. :-) tim ran off to the spokane arena, so he can meet up with the crew. the rest of us hang out and watch some of MLE's VH1 day. watch "pop up videos" hoping for a MLE clip (no!). pat benatar's "love is a battlefield" video pops up, and we attempt to reinact pat's chest shimmy in the dance sequence. some of us are more successful than others. *pre-show party* we had heard that there was going to be a slammin' pre-show party at spokane's relatively new sports bar, "the ram", which was right across the street from the arena. barb, maureen, and i go to the venue first to pick up our MEIN seats, and were surprised to learn that all 4 of us were sitting next to each other! and for those keeping track: spokane MEIN seats - 2nd row floor since jib was going to be taking her last final *during* the show (she would get to the show sometime during the end of the b-stage set or beginning of the 3rd set), i was instructed to leave the ticket in her name at will call. barb, maureen, and i go to "the ram" for appetizers and beers. the local radio station (i think it's called "the peak") was giving away a pair of front row seats to the show (we all entered the contest, of course, but we didn't win). because the place was so crowded, we ended up sharing a table in the bar with 2 other women, one of whom is a list member (a lurker). we didn't exchange names, but if you remember us, big wave! *our seats* after imbibing just the right amount of beer , barb, maureen, and i run across the street to the arena. we check out the closest merchandise booth, and then head down to claim our floor seats. a tall, dark-haired german angel met us as we reached the floor, and upgraded the 3 of us to the front row! ;-) *the show* the spokane arena had been cut approximately in half for the show, and it still wasn't sold out (no behind the stage seats nor upper level seats were sold). since the arena normally fits 12,500, i'm guessing that there were probably less than 4,000 people there. 7:30 show time, began at 7:45; show ended at 10:35 main stage (1st set): IRLY IIWT IWTCO AUK CTMW NTG SP Change SL ICHBY B stage (2nd set): YIA AAG LMG ATWTH Resist main stage (3rd set): BMSW ITOO YLS main stage (encores): LTWID TWIO (note: i'm sure y'all be pleased to know that i'll only post this set list once , as it really didn't change much for the duration of the tour [except for slight rotation during the B stage set, the wild and crazy "John Shanks Birthday Theme" inserted every other song at the sacto show, the subsequent addition of "happy xmas (war is over)/give peace a chance" (the SF show --> the LA show), and the spanish version of NTG (phoenix show --> LA show)]). *fashion report* black suede pants (watch out for that tell-tale thigh rub ) with the studs down the sides, obligatory black T (silk or cotton? jib and i are still in disagreement about that), blue denim overshirt with the star appliques, and black faux snakeskin Docs. *memorable moments* this was barb and maureen's very first MLE show, and my first full MLE show since may 1995 (not counting her june 1996 maritime special appearance), so we were all very excited. the front row seats weren't bad either. MLE mentioned during her first mike break about how cold spokane was. no kidding! (when we left the show, it was 26 deg F, and the roads were slick with ice.) i dragged barb with me to the B stage as soon as MLE appeared there to finish ICHBY. the security had already started to put the ropes up at our aisle to hold back the crowd, so we went down the far side aisle. of all the B stage experiences of the tour, this show had the most relaxed crowd (i.e. we weren't squished). during AAG, kenny jumped on top of his bass drum so he could play his snare drum, while MLE, john, and mark grabbed their own drum sticks to bang along (ala past MBCFM jam sessions). during LMG, MLE tucked her ovation behind her, reached her arms around john, and played a solo on his electric guitar as he fiddled with the tremolo bar (she didn't do this on any of the subsequent west coast shows). i left during Resist to reclaim my front row seat, but barb didn't follow me (and got stuck in the subsequent stampede). after MLE and the band returned to the main stage (they went down the aisle near our seats), security then opened up the front area for the 3rd set and encores. *pawing session* the part of TWIO when MLE kneels down center stage and reaches into the crowd. i had forgotten that she did this at this point in the show, but it so happened that i found myself behind tim at center stage, so i did grab her arm. as she was pulling away from the crowd for her dramatic moment, i got a brief hand grab. i got another handshake later when she left the stage during TWIO. *post-show* ran into jib who had vaulted a row or 2 to get one of kenny's drum sticks that he had thrown into the crowd. very cool! turns out that she almost wasn't allowed in to the arena even though i had left a ticket for her at will call. will call was closed when she arrived, so she had to bang on the doors to get someone to get her ticket. her persistance paid off! her finals were over so we decided to go out and party. unfortunately, tim was feeling feverish at this point (he had arrived from germany with a cold), so he went back to jib's to crash. we met up with 2 of jib's friends and headed over to "hour place". got carded . it must have been a sign (of the pending apocalypse?) because when we walked in, the dance remix version of CTMW was playing. i remember andrea mentioning this in the past, but i wouldn't have believed it was possible, if i hadn't heard it with my own ears. barf! there was only one bartender for one very packed club, so we left soon after, and went to another club. dempsey's? my feeble brain fails me at this late date...anyway, it was a much more sedate place, so we had a round and called it a night. hit the hay at about 1:15 am, knowing that we had another long drive ahead of us to tacoma (4-5 hours) the next morning. and we had to face the ominous snoqualamie pass. ...to be continued... *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:41:19 -0500 From: "Deborah D. Jones" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 27 Dec 1996 to 28 Dec 1996 Deb here from Delaware. Hoping everyone is having a great holiday. Yeah, Pooh, whoever you are you have a lot of fans! Looking forward, as always to your next post. Deb :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:57:31 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: NMEC, MEC Anne wrote: >Hey, what is "NMEC"? Nuns Making Electronic Change? New Medicines for Excitable Cats? Neuron Mechanisms of Encephalographic Currents? It's No Melissa Etheridge Content. :) Rhondda wrote: >thankfully, i've managed to miss the recent flame wars. i >probably could set my watch based on the annual religious >one. Over on rec.music.tori-amos they have four seasons; the Kate Bush season, the Trent Reznor season, the Is-She-Gay season and the Hair Color season with occasional religious storms popping up every once in a while. >i've affectionately coined my MLE west coast tour (8 shows, >leno taping, and 4,000+ miles later) 8 MLE shows in one tour... I hate you. ;) Aaron :) "I see your face every place that I walk in I hear your voice every time that I'm talkin' You will believe in me, and I will never be ignored" --Garbage ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:05:21 -0500 From: Tracey Thacker Subject: Re: 3 days to '97! In a message dated 96-12-28 10:19:26 EST, [email protected] (Aaron Morrison) writes: > I wish a happy '97 to all of you too. I haven't decided yet if I want to > make a New Year's resolution this year, and if so, what to resolve. What > are other people's New Year's resolutions going to be? (ooh, this could turn > into quite an interesting thread! ;)) This could be a fun thread. . . I think I'll go first. I've made three new year's resolutions. My first resolution is to get my new computer (thanks, Santa) set up before July. :-) My second resoution is to find a good diet plan to counter the effects of a baby and over a month of holiday eating. :-) Lastly, this year, as in several years past, I spent my Thanksgiving at a center, serving meals to people who had no where else to go - homeless people, elderly people, families that were just barely scraping by, and would not have had a nice Thanksgiving meal if they hadn't been able to come to the center. This center operates 365 days a year, providing sustenance and a respite from the cold, or the heat, and often, the only kind face and kind words that these folks get over the course of a day. My third resolution is to spend more time there, doing what I can for those folks, and doing for those who aren't as fortunate as I, with a nice home, and a great family, and a new computer and all of the things I've been blessed with, because there but for the grace of God (ohoh, the dreaded G word) go I. Nice and altruistic, right? Who's next? Tracey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:53:17 -0500 From: Kelley at AOL Subject: please read - technical MEC Hi, I really need lister help...(hold the laughter, I know) Somewhere (I don't know where) I downloaded a YLS font. It was a .zip file and I extracted it and my, oh my, is it a beautiful font!! (it's the Your Little Secret CD writing) but...anytime I use it over 21 points, letters disappear. I was wanting to use the font to make commemorative t-shirts and I'd like the font to be bigger. I know I can blow the type up on a copier to get it bigger but I'd like to make the font work the way it is supposed to. (Plus I want the sharpest copy I can get.) So, if we have any listers who are "techies" or can refer my to non-lister but helpful "techies", please email privately. Oh, BTW, if you know where I got this font that would be helpful to know too, maybe I could find the author of this font. Many thanks in advance. I'd be forever grateful!! Take care all, Kelley "I am woman, I am invincible, I am tired." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 14:05:55 EST From: Nanette Gherardin Subject: Re: treadmill mix Hi All On Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:48:47 -0800 wrote: >OK, the tour is over and julie and melissa are nestled in the hills >waiting for elmo's newest fan to arrive. i, however, am back on the >treadmill (and stairmaster and lifecycle and...) looking for good >things to listen to as i sweat. so here's a question that might give us >some melissa music to talk about: >what's a good one hour melissa tape mix to use for working out if: >1) you're doing random hills on a stairmaster? >2) you're running for about 45 minutes on a treadmill? >So, about 10 songs from anything Melissa has ever done (except those >demos ) arranged in a "good workout format." >Anyone wanna take a stab at it? I'm game: Warm Up - NTG (appropriate really for stationary bike or treadmill) _ Let's Get it On Workout - Funky version of B & C MBCFM MMITB AAG MM BMSW Shook Me All Night Long Cool Down - Choose 2 of the 3 listed I'm on Fire I Will Never be the Same Put Me Out of my Misery As you can see, i am flat out (i wish) at work. Anyway, hope this gives you some ideas, happy riding, running & stepping Have a safe & fun New Year Nan ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 28 Dec 1996 to 29 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Tue Dec 31 00:00:40 1996 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 00:00:04 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 29 Dec 1996 to 30 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:56:51 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: religious flame wars and MLE shows on the YLS tour Aaron Morrison said: >Over on rec.music.tori-amos they have four seasons; the Kate Bush >season, the Trent Reznor season, the Is-She-Gay season and the Hair >Color season with occasional religious storms popping up every once >in a while. sounds like fun! :-) what about the I Want to F*ck Robert Plant season? for real crispy religious flame wars, that are certain to singe your eyelashes, check out the music list devoted to a very successful group, who will remain unnamed (hint - check out RS 4/16 and you will have figured it out). you ain't seen nothin' yet, until your evening digest swells to 100 posts or so. thankfully, these wars haven't occurred much lately, although with their new album coming out in march, those lovely wars could resume sooner rather than later. >>i've affectionately coined my MLE west coast tour (8 shows, >>leno taping, and 4,000+ miles later) > >8 MLE shows in one tour... I hate you. ;) i wish i could say that i've seen 8 shows since 1988 - that would hold more *real fan* credibility. but, alas, my time machine is on the blink yet again. :-) actually, amongst my travelling companions, i had seen the least number of shows. by the end of our trip, tim "german super fan" dunker had seen about 25 shows this tour (and about 80-90 shows total?), while jib had seen 15 1/2 (i think), but i'm not sure of her grand total. my grand total's not even in the same ballpark. and what about sue d? we didn't travel together, but she was at every flippin' show i was (except for spokane - she went to las vegas instead). 'fess up, sue - how many shows did you go to this tour? :-) *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 01:30:04 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: Re: religious flame wars and MLE shows on the YLS tour Rhondda Ashby wrote: >Aaron Morrison said: > >>Over on rec.music.tori-amos they have four seasons; the Kate Bush >>season, the Trent Reznor season, the Is-She-Gay season and the Hair >>Color season with occasional religious storms popping up every once >>in a while. [jumping up and down] Hey, that was me!! I made that up!! Hair-Color Season comes before Is-She-Gay Season, and it's *always* God Season. >sounds like fun! :-) what about the I Want to F*ck Robert >Plant season? I'll keep that in mind ;) -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) [email protected] http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:46:58 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Happy New Year & Resolutions Mornin' Melisters! Do you all know just how special you all are? I thought not. So let me tell you. Each and every one of you have a life to give and share with others and how you do that is your own choice. So choose wisely. Let not the anger of others leave a sour taste in your mouth or harden your hearts. I wish you all peace. Peace in your hearts and in your souls and in your daily living and when you find it hard to see a candle in the darkness a beacon to show you the way. Many of us turn to music for that beacon. Which is why we are all here. We chose Melissa to be a beacon for us in our times of hardship and darkness and in times of love and tenderness. And in doing so we ended up here on this list to listen and share and grow in a prism of light and colors. Surely a gift so warm and full should be shared and should continue to grow and we should bask in its warmth and love. I wish to do so in the year to come. I look forward to all of you and your comments as we share Melissa and her life and the joys and treasures she shall surely share with us one and all. I am a common bear who finds beauty in simple things and this year I want to take more time to do so. Hopefully you all will to and not miss a sunrise that radiates beauty and bright colors nor miss the life that is all around us. I think of a walk in the woods one morning when the day was new and the dew was still upon the grass and there in the quiet was a spider web and as the suns rays shone through it a rainbow of colors caught my eye and I thought of all of us and how we had all been caught in a web and the warmth and beauty that radiated from the web was good. That web is Melissa and her music and we are all caught in its beauty and warmth and passion and we share it so graciously with one another just as she would want us to. There is much I could say about the New Year and resolutions ( losing weight) but then would you all love a skinny bear? I would like to love more and waste less time on things I cannot change and I would like to share that love with those who wish to share with me. Beautiful people are everywhere so I hope we can take time in our daily lives to stop and see them. I see you all every morning on my screen and I have re-newed faith and hope that even when one is caught in a web, there is beautiful music to be shared. Peace & Love & Hope Sincerely, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:29:28 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Theresa's Tattoo On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Sue Molyneaux wrote: > Second, for my birthday I received a book titled "Images in the Dark: An > Encyclopedia of Gay and Lesbian Film and Video" by Raymond Murray. It > includes a review of Teresa's Tattoo. I got the TT laserdisc for Xmas! I promptly jotted down the times of the MLE and kd appearances/songs, and put it away, where it will stay until some MLE or kd fan comes to visit. :) -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:17:44 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Seasons, Tour Junkies On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Aaron Morrison wrote: > Over on rec.music.tori-amos they have four seasons; the Kate Bush season, > the Trent Reznor season, the Is-She-Gay season and the Hair Color season > with occasional religious storms popping up every once in a while. And on the IG list there are regular battles over whether their private life should be discussed, whether bootlegs/auctions/etc are okay, how much NIGC is too much... every list has its ups and downs. Those of you who are shocked at the recent outbursts should not be. Welcome to the online world -- on most lists, you don't even have a moderator to defend you, so you generally have to defend yourself (without resorting to things like posting private mail), or be big enough to restrain yourself for the good of the rest of the list. I advocate the latter most highly, even on this moderated list. > 8 MLE shows in one tour... I hate you. ;) Not me. I was bored at the one YLS show I did see, partly because I don't like YLS, and partly because it was too much like the 3 YIA shows I saw. I wouldn't have done another one if someone gave me a ticket. Unless it was at Red Rocks -- but it's too small for her now. -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ______________________________________________________________ Best new addition to my CD collection: Once Blue, ONCE BLUE Listen to it at http://www.emirec.com/onceblue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 18:47:16 GMT From: Beth Durff Subject: NMEC - Houstonian babes Beth here... getting set to make my New Year's trek to visit the *Houstonian babes*. Ya know, I've spent more of my 2 week vacation with MElisters than I have with my own family - but, can I help it if everyone I've met on this list (so far) is more appealing? Then again, that might not be saying too much about my family either... hehehe... Anyway, have a great New Year's eve - if you chose to celebrate it that is. And remember - Don't Drink and Drive - Be Safe - and Take Care ! Beth (who's really gonna enjoy hangin' with the Houstonian babes and making em' watch Penn State kick some Texan booty during the Fiesta Bowl) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:56:21 -0800 From: Marleen Niekel Subject: YLS font Kelley at AOL wrote, about the YLS font: >Oh, BTW, if you know where I >got this font that would be helpful to know too, maybe I could find the >author of this font. Many thanks in advance. I'd be forever grateful!! If you're talking 'bout the same font as I found on the net, which also gives some problems (it can't deal with long words at all). I'm quite sure I found it al Nie's MLE page: http://www.ping.be/~ping9791/mle.htm But as the perfectionist that I am, this font comes close to the font used for all the YLS stuff. But I still don't think it's the exact font. If anyone knows where to find an even better font (not that I don't like this one;), please lemme know! Marleen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:10:49 -0500 From: "Eidel Lisa Consultant (Temp)" Subject: Hi everyone! Does anyone have a copy of the interview Melissa did with the Mark and Brian show a couple of weeks ago? I believe it was December 10th. My friend in Washington only managed to tape about 45 minutes and then she had to run to class and wasn't able to finish recording. The tape ran out in the middle of Melissa doing an acoustic version of ATWTH. I would be willing to set up a trade or pay for it. Thank you very much. Have a very happy and more importantly safe New Year. Lisa E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:55:17 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: My New Year's Resolutions First off, I'd like to say, "Thanks Aaron for suggesting a new thread. Great idea;" and "Thanks Tracey for taking the initial plunge." A plunge IMO which was insightful and moving. :-) Trace, you're tres cool. And to everyone on the *other* U.S. coast (g), thanks for sharing the details of your MLE concert experiences. Gives me goosebumps all over reading your reports. Okay, about my New Year's Resolutions, I've actually been thinking about this topic for the past few weeks now. And I think what I want to do in 1997 is to approach my resolution-making in a backward, upside down kinda way. Rather than *add* more stuff to my To Do list (being the type A kinda girl I am) , I want to slow myself down a bit, drop things from my list to give myself more free time to enjoy the important things in my life. I want to have the time to go sledding (if and when it snows in D.C.), and to play games my twins (girl-Alex, boy-Corey) who turn eleven on Jan. 20 (sheesh, just yesterday they were toddling around in their Pampers); time to learn more about classical music and art and gardening; time to sleep in past 7:30 on Sat. mornings and not feel guilty; time to snuggle with Jen and sip coffee and read the Sunday paper; stuff like that. For me, as each year passes and I keep racing ahead in my career and in my constant search for self-improvement, I'm realizing that I'm missing out on an awful lot of really wonderful stuff along the way. And at least for me, I hope to make 1997 the year I stop to smell the roses along the way. Gwen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:00:00 PST From: Rachel Strass Subject: New Year's Resolutions Now HERE'S a topic I can really sink my teeth into... Hmm...Lemme see now...there are so many things I could improve on... not that I'm not good at them already, but one can always improve, no?... Yes... first thing's first, I resolve to get more pleasure out of my do-it-yourself home-torture rack. I resolve to make less sense than ever before, and confuse as many people as possible. I resolve never to pay for another drink, unless, of course, I'm buying... I resolve never again to date anyone who's only interesting facet is their knife collection I resolve never to sleep while driving...heh, unless someone else is driving but then again... I resolve never to suffer through unrequited love. (Now THERE'S something we're all too good at already.) I resolve to respect my rights to... howl at the moon often and loudly give warm-fuzzies as well as goosebumps and chills maintain my dignity even if it makes me look like a goof-ball be what I am and finally... I hereby resolve to be even saucier than I am now. Love and other all-weather sports, Rachel, the one who is me "Hey, where are all the women at?" BTW, I love Pooh, but I must admit that I identify more with Tigger. Yes, Tigger is a wreck, but he's so interesting to watch! I guess I just prefer meat to honey . And how come he never gets to take down a nice antelope every once in a while? I mean, it's always 11 o'clockish for Pooh, but Tigger never gets his real sustenance. You see, this has always been a minor source of frustration for me, being the avid fan of meat that I am. Come on, it's like people sleeping in separate beds on all those old TV shows. We all know they were boinking like bunnies, why deny reality? I'm not espousing pornography or anything distasteful, well, maybe I am...But then again, I AM a left-handed Scorpio female long-haired musician from a long line of violent peoples...never mind. Hey! I heard that, Patti! And you too Liz! Just keep yer yaps shut about that doberman and the peanut butter, okay? I'm outta here. Yes, that's true, I'm also out there, but I make a great pet and I clean up after myself. And I don't bark, I just just just... H o w L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:58:00 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: SF Chronicle article Finally had time to read the SF Chronicle article with quotes from Melissa. (I'm not as much a procrastinator as it may seem, Boise's Public Library just got the 12-15 paper last week). It's a great article, with some interesting quotes (and a nice photo). I'll transcribe the article if anyone who hasn't seen it wants me to. -marcy ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 29 Dec 1996 to 30 Dec 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Tue Dec 31 19:33:48 1996 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 19:33:10 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 30 Dec 1996 to 31 Dec 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 1980 15:15:24 +1000 From: Sarah Fairbrother Subject: HI EVERYONE! I've just joined this mailing list and I thought I'd say hi and happy new year. I'm a big fan of Melissa and its great to meet people even more obsessed than I am. I've only liked her since she brought out Your Little Secret(please forgive me!) but now I've got all her cds and think shes just the greatest. Some of my favourite songs are No Souviners, Come to my Window, Similar Features, Bring me some Water, Meet me in the Back, All the way to Heaven, Your little Secret, Dance Without Sleeping and Silent Legacy (still awake?). I've heard some people say they really disliked YLS but I loved it. Anyway, I was wondeing if someone could help me out -Does anybody know what the heck Melissa's going on about at the end of Crazy 4 Me? I hope I'll make some good friends from this list- until next time remember to keep it precious. :) Sarah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:57:40 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: RS 4/16 Rhondda said I'd figure out the name of a very successful music group if I listened to RS 4/16. Uh, I'm clueless...I can't figure out what group you're talking about. Will you please inform this slightly dull but eager student? thanks. (Btw Rhondda, I'm loving your story of your 8 concert trip). -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:16:21 -0800 From: "J. Croft" Subject: YCSWID tour - 12/12 spokane show - article Before Rhondda continues the YCSWID tour stories (next stop - Tacoma), I thought I would pass along the interview with Melissa printed in the local paper the day of the Spokane show. Apologies in advance for typos and grammatical errors -- this is scanned, and I'm sure my software lost a bit in the translation (and I don't feel like editing it). You'll notice the journalist indicates the questions came from Melissa's fans... in early November, he solicited questions in a Sunday edition, requiring them to be submitted that night as his interview was Monday morning. I came up with a bunch and was pleased that several of them were used or at least paraphrased... do note the one about obsessive fans is mine! Jib The Spokesman-Review December 12, 1996 Melissa Answers Star takes on readers' questions about her career, personal life By Jim Kershner Staff writer Nobody has more loyal fans than Melissa Etheridge. So we asked them to submit their own questions, which we relayed to her during our recent phone interview The questions were personal as well as musical, which should come as no surprise. Etheridge's private life is public knowledge these days. She and her partner, Julie Cypher, made the cover of Newsweek on Nov. 4 with the headline, "We're Having a Baby: Can Gay Couples Gain Acceptance?" Cypher is pregnant, and she and Etheridge plan to raise the baby as a couple. Here's the interview: Q: What kind of songs do you plan to sing to the baby? A: Oh, ones that my mother sang to me. I think I will pay attention to the content of some of those, because I think a lot of them were very violent. "Down will come baby" - Ilaughs) I'm just not going to sing that. (Sings) "You're gonna be up in a tree, and you're going to fall, and its gonna hurt" (laughs). I'm sure I'll make up my own little things to sing, too. Q: Is it more acceptable to be homosexual in the music industry than in TV, in light of the "Ellen" flap? A: I don't know. I find the music industry has been very accepting, as long as you're doing well. Ultimately, it comes down to the business of it. Your personal lifestyle, if you choose to reveal it, as long as your business is still doing good, will be accepted. I think the record-buying public made a statement with my last album when they said, "So what," or "That's fine," or "We knew that," and they bought the album. Absolutely, there was a fear of losing everything, because it's such an unknown. But the alternative was impossible: I couldn't hide, I couldn't lie. It was just impossible. Q: Do you think fans get a little too obsessed with their favorite rock icons? And your fans in particular? A: It's interesting. I think there is a small percentage of people who get obsessed in general, to a dangerous level. And I think the state of mental health doesn't cover that enough. But the majority of my fans are music-loving people who my music has touched, and I love seeing them get into the show and I'm not afraid of them at all. Q: Do you watch yourself on video playback, and what do you think of your own performance if you do? A: No, I don't watch myself very often. There are times when something happens that I want to see again, specialmoments, and I sometimes find it uncomfortable to watch myself. But I neverwant to think that onstage, because I never want to stop natural things onstage, to think, "Oh, I'lljust look stupid." a: What has surprised you about being famous? A:It's a lot more work (laughs). I have to really center myself, because it seems like waves; you're on top of one, and "Ooh,' this is great," but it doesn't last. You have to have a really solid foundation to know that it's up and down. Q: How are you treated differently by family and friends? A: My close, close family certainly doesn't treat me any differently, and neither do my close, close friends. They do very well at keeping me very humble. Beyond that, there are the sort of extended family, distant relatives; they came out of the woodwork, and it's hard. "Yeah, I'm related to you, but I met you once." I try to be hospitable to that, but, you' know, it . coutd take up all my time. Same with friends; some friends couldn't handle the lifestyle change. Some friendships went by the wayside. Q: What do you wish you knew at the beginning of your career that you know now? A: Hmm -- that's a tough one. Because what I know now, I need to ; know now, and what I knew then, I needed to know then. You learn as you go along, and that's the journey. If I knew the things then that I know now, I might not have gone on this journey. If I knew it was so much hard work -- well, I would have done it anyway, but it might have been discouraging. Q: Are you recognized on the street? Do you do your own shopping? A: In Los Angeles, I do my own 20 percent of the time. I'm just not around enough to do that all the time. I get recognized. There's a certain portion of my day which I spend shaking people's hands and saying hello and signing an autograph. Ninety-nine percent of the people, that's all they want. "Hey, I love your music," or "Boy, my cousin's crazy about you, would you sign this thing?" It takes a minute, and that's OK. Sometimes, I can be in certain situations where, like, I love going to bookstores, because everyone's looking at books, and no one's looking at me. I can do fine there. Q: When, if ever, will you release a live video or a live recording? A: We have been slow in providing that. Instead of me coming into your living room, you have to come see me. It's sort of a career move. One reason is that I think my live performance is my greatest asset, and in this day and age, when it's hard to bring people out and go to a concert, they will come out to see me. I see it in the future that we will release something like that. Q: Which gay rights organizations do you financially support; and do you do so in a significant way? A: The ones I find myself involved with, in all kinds of different levels, are the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and the Human Rights Campaign. Q: What do you think the Internet has done for your career? A: I don't know about my career, but what it has done for me is give me instant access to fan response. When I have a television performance, I can go on-line and read what people think about immediately. Whereas before, the only response I got was: from reviewers, someone who gets paid. Who says they like my music to start with? Q: Are you still going to be in the upcoming movie about the life of Janis Joplin? (Etheridge is slated for the title role). A: As far as I know. It's moving right ahead. I'd say we'll start filming in April or May. I'm terrified; its wonderful (laughs). * JL Jiblet Croft * [email protected] * http://www.pretenders.org * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:34:04 -0700 From: Allison Fraiberg Subject: Re: RS 4/16 >Rhondda said I'd figure out the name of a very successful music group if >I listened to RS 4/16. Uh, I'm clueless...I can't figure out what group >you're talking about. Will you please inform this slightly dull but >eager student? thanks. -marcy U2? allison [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 00:03:13 -0800 From: azmax Subject: just looking for some help! ok, i've heard talk about MLE and "Teresa's Tattoo...im just curious here so....WHAT IS IT? i've done net searches, tried looking for info everywhere and my luck hasn't been on my side...can i get some help..thanx! MAX ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 07:18:27 -0500 From: "Deborah D. Jones" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 29 Dec 1996 to 30 Dec 1996 Mornin, Everyone This is Deb from Delaware wishing all my fellow fans Happy New Year. I want to thank everyone who has been helping me with my ME collection. All of you who can come on this list and share your experiences never cease to amaze me. I would expecially like to thank Betsy just for being there. Also, Lisa I hope your FL trip went well. Most of all I want to thank Melissa for sharing so much of herself and for bringing us all together. Have a Great New Year everbody! Love, Deb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:46:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR Hi all, Rhonnda (one of the nice person who took care while I felt almost like hell) wrote on Dec. 29th: >by the end of our trip, tim "german >super fan" dunker had seen about 25 shows this tour (and >about 80-90 shows total?) Yes, I have seen quite a few shows since Oct. 1988 but as far as I could count LA was the 70th show in total. So maybe in 1999 I hit 80 or 90. But thats a long time to wait. :( :( :( The words I said most to Melissa after the LA-Show were:"I WILL MISS YOU !!!" Yes, 1996 was a good year !!! 25 shows, incl. 6 shows with Brian Adams. In 1995 I was only able to see two "secret gigs" (about one hour promo shows in Munich and Amsterdam). But it has one good thing to wait until SHE comes back. I am able to promise my girlfriend tonight, when the year 1996 turns into 1997 that this year and probably even the year that follows I won`t go to ANY Melissa Etheridge show .... and my girlfriend will smile and will be happy about that. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU !!! HAPPY NEW YEAR AND A BIG HUG TO EVERYONE I MET DURING MY TOUR AND TO EVERYONE I TALKED ON THE PHONE TO !!!!!!!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL THE SNEAKERS !!! You know that I mean you !!!!!!! ;) ;) ;) Bye till next year Tim Dunker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 09:23:29 -0800 From: Randy Subject: ME song copyrights and LOC Someone posted a few months ago a web/gopher site for the copyright dates/listing at the Library of Congress for Melissa's music. Was that you John? I thought I had it bookmarked. Would that kind soul please repost? And why in the heck is the LOC online only available during business hours locally to DC? Don't they know I do my best surfing/research in the wee hours? later... -- [email protected] Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same A persons greatest emotional need is to feel appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 09:37:31 -0500 From: red19 Subject: happy new year HAPPY NEW YEAR to all !!! looking forward to a year filled with peace, love, and lots of MELISSA!!! - - ; - > andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:17:51 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Spokesman-Review article (thanks, Jib!) On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Jibe quoted The Spokesman-Review: > Q: When, if ever, will you release a live video or a live recording? > A: We have been slow in providing that. Instead of me coming into your > living room, you have to come see me. It's sort of a career move. One reason > is that I think my live performance is my greatest asset, and in this day > and age, when it's hard to bring people out and go to a concert, they will > come out to see me. If she really thinks her shows are so boring that people would rather sit home and listen to a live CD or watch a live video, she should hang it up. She knows she's great live, I just don't follow the logic there. > I see it in the future that we will release something > like that. The way she said that cracked me up, I envisioned her over a crystal ball: "I see it in the future..." :) > Q: What do you think the Internet has done for your career? > A: I don't know about my career, but what it has done for me is give me > instant access to fan response. When I have a television performance, I can > go on-line and read what people think about immediately. Whereas before, the > only response I got was: from reviewers, someone who gets paid. Who says > they like my music to start with? So, is she saying that fans are more objective than critics?! That only someone who likes her music could accurately review her performance? Or that she only cares about the opinions of people who like her music to start with? -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 11:03:50 -0500 From: Laura Politano Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 29 Dec 1996 to 30 Dec 1996 Hello Everyone, Just had to respond to this most recent post. First, it was overall the nicest one I've read in a long time and that was so refreshing! Pooh's post, as usual, was so touching. Actually got me all choked up and that's not easy to do. I loved Gwen's resolutions and wish you the best of luck in achieving them! We should all learn from you. New Year's is a crazy kind of thing, really just one day turning into the next, like all others. Some of us don't even celebrate or acknowlege it much, but even we can't help but think about the year past or the year ahead. Resolutions seem inevitable. I hope that all of you are successful in reaching your goals. For the new year, my wish to all of you (even to those who don't celebrate, of course) is more love, peace and happiness in your hearts. With these things, everything else falls into place! Happy New Year! Laura- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 11:33:15 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 29 Dec 1996 to 30 Dec 1996 Redsocks wrote: >[jumping up and down] > >Hey, that was me!! I made that up!! Cool! I thought the season's list was so funny! :) >Hair-Color Season comes before Is-She-Gay Season, and it's *always* God Season. What season is it now? Is-She-Gay? (that was a question about season, not orientation. ) Gwen wrote: >First off, I'd like to say, "Thanks Aaron for suggesting a new thread. >Great idea;" and "Thanks Tracey for taking the initial plunge." A plunge >IMO which was insightful and moving. :-) Trace, you're tres cool. Agreed! I've been think about this... I really wish I was more out. I'm actually rather closeted and for no good reason either. Also, I wish I could understand people more, and try to be more tolerant of people I disagree with, and of course I always want to be a better person, and to do more to help others. I'm thinking about making resolutions this New Year's to try to acheive those goals. Rachel wrote: >I resolve never again to date anyone who's only interesting facet is their >knife collection LOL! >I resolve never to suffer through unrequited love. (Now THERE'S something >we're all too good at already.) I'm not even going to try to resolve that -- I know it won't work. Aaron :) "Someday I'll be born." --Paula Cole ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:20:30 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: this that and other stuff... I want to wish you a wonderful and Happy New Year... I hope that 1997 is filled with love, health and happiness for you and all you family and friends... May the worst of 1997 be the best of 1996... ( I hope I said that right) =p I hope that this New Year we can all look around at where we are and see those that are around us and be thankful for what we have... Just take a moment to thank the Great Spirit for all that has been given to you... With smiles and teas and laughter and hugs and everything that you go through... Be thankful that you can share a smile with someone or dry a tear... Laugh at a joke or sing at the top of your lungs to your favorite Melissa song... =) I am thankful of and for many, many thing... One of them being all the wonderful people and friends I have met through this list... =) I hope that our friendships last through another New Year and beyond... Okay, enough babbling... Have a great New Year... Stay safe and have fun... =) Love and peace and hugs... Kiva [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "... i'll be riding that train and i'll be singing that song but i won't be gone for long cause the angels won't have it..." m.e. "... you want to understand the ways of the world and just what the hell is a public introvert... " Rainshine ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 09:29:41 +0000 From: greg hawthorne Subject: New Year Hello All, I have been lurking for a while now... I was sitting back thinking, oh here comes another year. Will it be goog or bad? We can only hope.. I hope all of you have a wonderful night... HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!! VH1 will annonce the winner tonight.. Dont forget to watch... Go Melissa!!!!!!1111111 Danielle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:34:01 -0800 From: "Sheri Yamada (Entex)" Subject: Re: New Year Sorry, I hate to be the one to bring the bad news, but I read in the USA Today (Life section - front page) that Melissa didn't win. 8-( Apparently, Celine Dion won. The nerve of them! Peace and have a safe New years! Sheri ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:43:27 -0500 From: Tami Higgs Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 29 Dec 1996 to 30 Dec 1996 Well Pooh, once again you have brought a ray of sunshine to remind us why we all love Melissa so much. Her music is truly am inspiration to me like every other MLE fan! It is truly nice to hear such insightful thoughts in this list. I am fairly new to the list, and have thouroughly enjoyed reading it each and every day! I look forward to my mail each day, it sure beats finding nothing but junk in my mailbox! Thanks again and keep up the great positive attitude, and I'm sure Melissa would be proud to read your contributions as they reflect the true sense of what she expresses in each and every one of her songs...PASSION! Until next time...Tami (Parrotfndr) PS I would sure like to give Melissa and Julie a truly wonderful gift, but I know that they have requested no more gifts. I have a 2 1/2 week old Blue and Gold Macaw baby that I have named "Dancer" and would like to give this baby parrot to Melissa and Julie, does anyone think that they would be interested in a baby parrot to raise with their baby??????? Any insights would be appreciated, it is a unique way to tell her how much I appreciate her music and what it means to me personally. Thanks! Tami ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:59:44 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Parrot On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Tami Higgs wrote: > PS I would sure like to give Melissa and Julie a truly wonderful gift, but I > know that they have requested no more gifts. I have a 2 1/2 week old Blue > and Gold Macaw baby that I have named "Dancer" and would like to give this > baby parrot to Melissa and Julie, does anyone think that they would be > interested in a baby parrot to raise with their baby??????? Any insights > would be appreciated, it is a unique way to tell her how much I appreciate > her music and what it means to me personally. It would be unique, that's for sure! But giving animals as gifts is nearly always a bad idea... people should pick their own pets, so that it's something they really want and there's a personality match. Besides, I expect they'll have their hands full with the baby and their dogs! -- Deb \\ [email protected] \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:01:33 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: And the VH1 Artist of the Year is... ...Hey, I'm just the messenger... The winner of the most votes as VH1's Artist of the Year for 1996 is: CELINE DION ...so said the dj on the radio today. Not a bad winner really IMHO. She had some huge hits this year. Melissa is always the artist of the year for me, in any year. I'm off to join Gwen, Jen, and (another) Joyce at a shindig in DC tonight! Happy New Year to everyone! Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 17:32:26 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: New Year-Reply >I have been lurking for a while now... I was sitting back thinking, oh >here comes another year. Will it be goog or bad? We can only hope.. >hope all of you have a wonderful night... HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!er; I just found out my local cable company isn't carryin VH1 anymore...and I think it sucks...they kept MTV(GO Figure)....You guys please keep the list updated...I'm going to get an 18" Dish Tommorrow...AS for tonight, well I won't be watching VH1....Hope Melissa wins...Happy New Year... Sonya >VH1 will annonce the winner tonight.. Dont forget to watch... Go >Melissa!!!!!!1111111 > >Danielle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:45:02 -0700 From: Allison Fraiberg Subject: melissa and julie mentioned on CNN's Showbiz Today In CNN's Showbiz Today's yearly roundup of stories, Julie and Melissa got a mention in the segment on "Hollywood Family Values." They appeared in the "non-traditional" arena with Sylvester Stallone-Jennifer Flavin and Melanie Griffith-Antonio Bandeiras. That show, I believe, airs again today at 9:30 pm EST. Allison [email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:31:52 -0500 From: Tracey Thacker Subject: Re: melissa and julie mentioned on CNN's Showbiz Today In a message dated 96-12-31 17:43:51 EST, [email protected] (Allison Fraiberg) writes: > On CNN's Showbiz Today's yearly roundup of stories, Julie and Melissa got a > mention in the segment on "Hollywood Family Values." They also got two mentions in the "couple of the year" contest on E's "Gossip Show" today. Big thumbs up to Ted Casablanca, E Online's resident wag, who made them his pick for couple of the year for their gutsy move of being public about the impending little'un. Big thumbs down to juvenile A.J. Benza, who, while discussing the impending Michael Jackson/Debbie Rowe offspring, made the comment "I think Melissa Etheridge will be a better father, [than Jackson]" Boo, hiss. Have a fun & safe evening everyone. I shall be content to sit and watch the ball drop from the sanctuary of my living room, and I shall send a thought of kindness out to all of you. Auld lang syne! (What *does* that mean, anyway? ) Tracey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 00:52:00 MET From: "Claudia E. Mulder" Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR!! As you guys can see by the time of this mail, it is that time again!! I just finished the champaign... fireworks are done and now Tina Turner's on tv with her concert in Holland last summer. So, happy new year listers!! All my best wishes and "keep it precious"! (1997 isn't an hour old, and i'm already on the net...hehehe) All the best, Claudia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 19:33:35 -0500 From: Mle Love Subject: Mark&Brian Show Here is something I found on the MLE board on AOL: Subj: Mark and Brian1 Date: 96-12-24 07:22:51 EST From: Dreamleaf Okay, so I'll finally type out what I said I would do like 2 weeks ago. I haven't had the chance until now, and I can't think of anything better than sitting here and listening to the show again as I type the transcript. Disclaimer--> I started taping the interview as Melissa was singing NTG. Wish I could somehow "post" that, it was beautiful as usual(love how she goes, "hmmm", in the middle of the song for effect). Sorry in advanced for any typos. (after NTG) M & B: (clapping) M: That was live. B: Oh, I love you. ME: Oh,(laughing) well you guys have always enjoyed when I come in here and play. M: You know it's unfair you can do that actually- sit there you write that you perform that- that's unfair you know. ME: That's unfair. I, it is true, I have been given some things that I hope to be responsible with..these gifts that I've been given..I hope doin' okay. B: You're doin' more than okay and you are responsible for it and that is just an amazing song. There's a lot to talk to you about but- ME: Okay- B: -just sitting there listening to this gift- ME: Mmmm B: -that you have, with this, going to back to your. . . upcoming son-(a little chuckle) ME: Ehh, (you can tell she's grinning) Son? Eh, you- B: Daughter, sorry, or daughter- Hey we can ask the crystal ball. ME: It might- Yeah- It would probably- (laughter from all) B: I'm still, you know, considering you calling it Brian so- ME: (laughing) Right, of course B: No, um, when you can do that, and these are very personal thoughts, I know, and I- ME: Mmmm B: -not asking you to share them with us but you have to have some plan, some tribute, some song in mind for that child. ME: Ohh, of course. B: Some poetry. ME: Of course, and I know there will be songs that will not be for public comsumption, B: Yeah, absolutely ME: that will be, you know, sung in the nursery, and you know, just- (pause) and I do enjoy that, I do enjoy giving that to, you know, family. That would be nice. M: You know, read on the bio yesterday, ah, preparing for your visit in that your influences were, when you were growing up, your influences were Bob Seiger, Mellancamp, and Springsteen. ME: Oh yeah. M: Particularly in that last song- ME: Uh huh M: there was some Seiger in there that was really very powerful and it kinda came out- I never really put those two together until I read it here. I would also think that when you were growing up you wrote some, not necessarily musically, but you wrote thoughts down in a journal of some sort because you couldn't put words like that together if you didn't, could ya? ME: (laughing) Well maybe so, that song there is, is definitely about my hometown..it's about where I grew up, and all I had to do was go, "Okay, let's close our eyes and go back and see...'oh, I remember what that was like'...and it was real easy to just write it down- and it was what the middle-America songwriters were writing..it was, it was Seiger's mainstreet, you know that's- M: Yeah, yeah ME: He knew that, he, that was a time he knew... it was Small Town for Mellencamp. B: Do you remember the first song that you ever wrote? ME: Oh, unfortunately I do B: Now, I would-- what would it take? Just the first part- ME: It would take so much (laughing) B: Ok, what do you need?? What do you need?? Just the first verse, the first line- ME: I don't think I remember the music to it, but I do remember the words, and now, I was 10 years old B: Ok! Cool! ME: C'mon, I was 10 years old, and it was um.... Don't let it fly away....Don't let it fly away...Don't let it fly away...(laughter) ...It's love. B: Oh, now see? (laughter) (clapping) M: Check it out! Hey, well you chose the universal topic ME: Love M: Even though you're 10 ME: Hey, and guess what? I probably said something about-- "above" (Laughing from all, uproariously so) B: And perhaps-- A dove? ME: And perhaps a dove M: Well when you're putting the words down on a piece of paper do you know--when it's kinda finished--do you know that it's good? I mean can you say to yourself, "Yeeeeah." ME: Oooooh...sometimes. Sometimes you get this "Ohhhhh!" that sometimes *I* like it, you know, and you're excited and you call in 'Hey, come listen to this' you know--and sometimes, boy, songs like, uh, the song Shriner's Park on this last album... I wrote, and I wrote and I wrote pages and pages and I went back and changed and I just never- I never got that feeling, 'Oh, yeah, now it's done.' I could still change that song. You know there's just things that go on like that. B: We've asked some artist in here the same question-- is there ever a problem for you over-writing something or- ME: Oh yeah B: -or over-working something ME: Oh, yes yes B: Where you lose touch of it or you lose feel ME: And it gets to be part of the craft when you can go, 'Okay stop- stop right now, go away, you may have, you know, killed something here. And you have to, it's part of the work to know, 'Okay, this is done'. B: How about lettin' 'em go. Once they're done. And if, the one's that are really special to you, that you've already decided to yourself that that's going to go on an album for public consumption. ME: Right(chuckle)... Sometimes it's sad because I know that a song that goes on an album and that I perform for a year and half, every night- I'm probably gonna get tired of it... and it's sad because it's so special at that moment.. it's like 'Aw this is-' and sometimes I don't do songs live just because I don't want to be tired of them. M: If you're manager came up to you and said, "Melissa your afternoon of the stuff we were going to do this afternoon has been cancelled, you've got six hours, you can do whatever you want to go do- If you could do anything for that six hour period what would you choose to do? ME: For six hours- wow - I'd probably watch TV (laughter from all) ME: I'd probably really... I'd probably sit down, probably try to catch, you know- Hunni- Funni- Hunniest?(laughing) Funniest Home Videos or something M: That is such a, well I mean- B: Just waste time basically ME: Just waste... because I can't anymore, I don't have any time to waste and if I just sat and went 'Oooh, there goes another hour-' M: Hey, wait til that youngin' gets in the house ME: Yeah, there's no time M: (laughing) ME: Oh god! B: Ah, a year or two ago I saw you at Woodstock, and how did you feel about that? Before you say I want to tell you--to be fair--how I felt about it. ME: Mmmm B: You electrified the stage--that's a typical, cliched thing to say but you did-- you stood- you were all over the stage doing your great songs, and for one moment..and a long, long moment...you just stood still, (ME laughing), and, I mean froze- didn't play the guitar, didn't sing- and the audience went nuts when you did that. You had to feel good about that performance. ME: Ohhhh, I- it was interesting cuz going into Woodstock, I was one of the first people that said, 'Oh, yeah, I'll do it'- cuz I remember they came to me in like '93- I said, 'Oh, yeah, I'll do it. I don't even care who else is playing- it sounds like fun' and I remember going 'Gosh, this could be'--I remember all the hype going into it--'it could just be a horrible media thing, you know, Pepsi could be evreywhere, you know, I just don't know what it could be like.' B: Sure, right ME: So I went in just totally open, and boy the energy- it was 300,000 people creating their own memory again. They weren't trying to do what they did 25 years ago- they were all there and they're going to remember that moment. And I had sooo much fun playing- and right in front of me was that mud mosh pit thing going on- that was actually, I mean, Ingobyrd Humberdink(??) could have been onstage and they would have been passing and tossing back and you know it had nothing to do with me. ME: But kinda beyond that the other 300,000 people-there was an awesome energy and there was one moment where I just had to stand there and go "okay I need to soak this in, because my feet- I'm just going to fly off stage if I don't just you know have a moment here" and everyone... it was a real shared energy, it was really cool. B: It truly was, it truly was. <<>> Sdfx: Beginning of YLS M: Welcome back. It's the Mark and Brian radio program. Melissa Etheridge is here, and sometimes, ah, when you're living your life and you're caught up in it and you're buzzin' around and you're doing Christmas, you don't realize there might be something new out there. There is a brand new Melissa Etheridge CD, or it's been out for awhile, but it is new- it's Your Little Secret, it's in the stores now, it's got Melissa peeking through a keyhole. So uh- B: It's got a nice pop up in the disc case (laughter from all) M: So don't tug on it too much! B: Jeanie on 10. Ah, Jeanie? J: Good morning B: Good morning, you're on the air with Melissa J: Melissa you are amazing! ME: Oh, thank you so much Jeanie J: There are not very many artists out here that can actually bring tears to my eyes and make the hair stand up on the back of my neck- but you're one of them. ME: (chuckle) Thank you very much J: I just wanted to thank you- ME: Alright J: For doing what you do, keep doing it, I've got both your CD's here and we listen to them all the time ME: Thank you J: And you just have a wonderful career ME: (chuckle) Thank you very much B: Thank you Jeanie J: Have fun with your baby ME: Oh I will J: Okay B: You know that's great advice- I never heard it put like that, but that's great advice. ME: Have fun with your baby B: Have fun with your baby ME: Yeah B: Uh, is it, Ione? I: Yes B: Oh, cool, go ahead ME: Ione I: Hi, um, I was just calling to ask her if by chance she plans to do a children's album ME: Oh, you know some people have asked me that, you know, "Are you going to do a children's album", lullabyes and stuff like that, I think I have to-- I don't know now, I have to have the experience, I mean, the baby's due the end of January and I have to kinda get into that and- B: (in I'm The Only One tune) The Itsy Bitsy Spider(and I'm the only one), rafanannanananana(who'd walk across a fire for you) ME: Rock 'n' Roll children's album... Sure.(seriously) I: Okay, great, thanks ME: Thanks(laughing) Sorry! M: Dan D: Hi M: You're on the air D: Hi, Melissa- ME: Hey Dan D: Oh, I love your voice, I love all your music- ME: Thanks D: I was wondering, do you write your music more for women, for men, or does it matter that much? ME: Boy, it doesn't matter at all. I tell ya, I uh- D: Well I mean, the gender- ME: Oh yeah, I know D: It sounds like can apply to both, and it's just really wonderful ME: That's where I've always come from is, you know, there's the experience that's personal to me, who I'm talking about, but I would never want to listen to a song and go, "Oh, I can't relate to that because she not singing about what I know". D: Yeah cuz it seems like, I mean I've loved your music for years and it just, ohhh, it gets me right in my heart- ME: Cool D: My fiance loves it too ME: Oh, thank you very much Dan D: Yeah... you know, Mark, Brian, is there anyway I can get some tickets for her concert.. or uh ME: (laughing totally out loud) M: Yeah, hang on, we'll try to work it up for ya B: Flip ya a pair D: Ok, thanks. M: Um, one of the things that I'm looking foward to as far as the writing is concerned, is that the path that you're taking with this child is going to bring about a different edge to what you right- ME: Uh huh M: And I look foward to hearing whatever that is. Cuz being a parent, I mean, I've- ME: Yeah, M: You know I don't think I ever loved anything more than myself until my wife and my kids and it's...it's an interesting road to take. ME: I'm sure I'm gonna be sittin' in here with you and we're gonna talk about "Well, you know, you were right, you were right Mark..." M: Look foward to hearing that B: John on 12.. hello John, you're on the air J: Alright, thanks. Uh, Melissa I just want to tell you I've been in love with your music since your first album, I saw you in Pheonix at Celebrity Theatre- ME: Ooh, I remember that! The stage went 'round and 'round. J: Yeah, it was in a tiny little theatre- M: It's like a carousel(in a western accent) ME: Yeah J: And I remember the announcer said, "This is the last time you're ever going to see Melissa in a- ME: Aw---- J: -in a place this small and he was right, you've been going gangbusters ever since ME: Cool B: How long ago was that? J and ME: Oh, gosh ME: That was '88 J: Yeah, I mean you opened--I remember every detail of that concert--you opened with Chrome Plaited Heart- ME: Yeah! J: And I was just mesmerized just for the entire show- ME: Oooh J: -you just blew the roof off the place ME: Cool. J: I wanted to ask you, um, a couple weeks ago you did an interview, or at least your interview was published in Newsweek and you were on the cover. Um, what kind of reaction have you gotten from the article and what was the experience like being on the cover of Newsweek? ME: (chuckling) That was pretty wild- I think my mother pretty much summed it up when she said, (in her best mother's voice) "I went to the grocery store and there you were, everywhere, you know, couldn't get away from ya," I was like 'Sorry, mom'. Um, you know- when you sort of cross over into that, sort of big, huge-out of the entertainment sort of section-and into the cover of a news magazine...it's a different part of what I'm comfortable with, you know, it's a little strange. As far as response, it's only been just a most wonderful outpouring of people thanking and people congratulating... I mean, everybody, you know... I walk down the street, they're like, "hey congratulations with the baby" you know, it's really cool. I'm here to tell you it's been a great response. J: Great, well congratulations and keep it up ME: Thanks M: And one more here, Shelly on 1 S: Hi, Melissa? ME: Hi, Shelly S: Hi, how are you? ME: Good S: Good. Um, reason I'm calling is first of all I want to say congratulations on the upcoming birth of your child- ME: Thanks S: -I have a 5-year-old little boy and he will not let me take "I'm The Only One" out of my car cassette. ME: (laughing) Future record buyers, love them! No... S: He knows all the words, he is a huge fan and so am I- I've seen you at House of Blues and also at Irvine ME: Oh, cool S: And you are amazing ME: Thank you S: My question is, you're songs are so refreshingly honest- ME: Mmmm S: Um, since a lot of them are derived from personal experiences, do you feel that you have to hold back a little bit because you might exposing yourself too much to the public? ME: Well I tell ya when I find myself saying that in my head, I think "Okay, I'm doing the right thing then" because the more personal I get the more people like you and all these others callers relate to it and love it. S: Well I'll tell you what-- you touch people.. you really do- ME: Mmmm, thank you S: There is so much garbage going out in the world right now and it is just so nice to have something to come home to, as far as something that's so completely honest, and I have a lot of respect for you and keep up the great work ME: thank you very much S: You're welcome ME: Good luck to you M: You know when you first start out and you're in the small clubs and you're doing it just mainly because you love doing it and this is what you gotta do, and then you reach a level like you have reached--at what point did it come to you that, "Hey this is a business, and for a lot of the people that I'm working with from the record company, this is about making money--I've gotta make sure that I stay where I'm supposed to be- M: You know when you first start out and you're in the small clubs and you're doing it just mainly because you love doing it and this is what you gotta do, and then you reach a level like you have reached--at what point did it come to you that, "Hey this is a business, and for a lot of the people that I'm working with from the record company, this is about making money--I've gotta make sure that I stay where I'm supposed to be- which is the love of the music and the love of bringing the words..." and how do you go about doing that" ME: Boy, I tell ya I was real fortunate, and I am real fortunate to be with the record company I am, with Island Records. They allowed me--if you take a look at the music business right now you see a lot of people that if their first albums don't hit it big, if they don't get that one big hit, you don't hear from them again--I had the luxury of doing THREE albums before my fourth hit it big. I had the luxury of building a base of people.... you all knew me from the first album and you kind of, you played and I could do shows and I got this sort of backing and then the fourth one took off-- and that really helped me settle in and go "Okay, I just need to make the music that I love and some are gonna be big and some aren't and I'm in this for a career. And yeah, there's, I mean I gone through, i think, four different record presidents, you know, M: Wow ME: With the company you know, so, but I'm still here, you know, they come and go and those people come and go but I'm still here doing what I love and I gotta do that because that's what I need to do. M: It's what got you here and it's what'll keep you here. B: Well do you need to do another one right now? ME: Oh! I need to do one! B: Oh Good! ME: Right now, I swear, all that business talk (laughing all around) Ugh! M: I find myself--by the way, musically speaking--Melissa of course will be here in LA on the 22 of December ME: The last show of the tour M: But Portland ME: Oh M: the 15th, she'll be up there, so- ME: Yay Portland M: she'll be at the Colosseum so go on out and check out the show. ME: Cool. I'll be doing this song... this is also from Your Little Secret...I like you guys got your feet up B: Oh, man, we are ready M: We are ready for it ME: You are just relaxing back M: Well you can't do this at the Colosseum you know, so we do it here ME: That's true, ok, yeah B: It's either this or moshing (laughing all around) ME: This is All The Way To Heaven <<>> M: That is from the CD Your Little Secret, that is, it's a silver cover, and hse's peeking through a keyhole. B: We have to mention again, that was live folks. She did that live. M: We're gonna have to take a break- You'll remember you did our Christmas show a couple years ago ME: Oh yeah! You guys just did that again, didn't you? M: Yes, Friday night. You did Lennon's Happy X-Mas/War Is Over ME: Oh yeah M: Do you remember that? ME: Oh, you mean like M: The song itself.. like could you do it? ME: Could I do it again- M: At some point ME: Are we taking a break? M: Yes we are ME: Then I could possibly work it out B: Check it out (laughing all around) B: Okay, so she'll give you anything you want if she gets to take a break first(laughing) ME: Yeah M: Oh, I got it B: I'm making a list M: Alright ME: Alright B: We'll be back, Mark and Brian radio program with Melissa Etheridge.. 95.9 KLOS. B: We're Mark and Brian playing your fastest rap cut tracks! Fat tracks! M: Yeah, right B: Grooves, grooving M: Hey-- B: Grooving on them fat tracks of rapness M: 95 and point 5 hathen word KLOS! <<>> B: Mark and Brian radio program back with you, along with Melissa Etheridge here live in the studio. This, uh, you should know, this concert, this show she's got Sunday Dec.22 at the Sports Arena is an "Evening with Melissa" and uh, her drummer is the, WAS the drummer - or is he still? ME: He's not working with Mellencamp B: Ok, John Mellencamp. We've met this guy, he is an amazingly nice guy, and- ME: Kenny Aranoff, yeah B: Kenny Aranoff will be your drummer. And he's crazy. ME: He really, he's crazy, he really sort of pushed us to do thing in the rock 'n' roll world that we've never done before... it's like WOW. I really like it, he's got a great energy. M: So, there's no opening act, this is like you and you're singing all the tunes ME: Yeah M: and doing everything ME: Yeah, after five albums it was like, "Gosh, the show is--" Well, I know that on the 22 it will be at least 3 hours, if not more cuz that's the last show for a long time. M: Wow, you oughta charge by song ME: You know I was thinking..(chuckling) .. I kind of do actually(laughing all around) ...we won't go into that. M: You know it's kind of fun she's sittin' in here and we had mentioned to her about doing Happy X-Mas/War Is Over, so she's sitting here and she's trying to remember it and she's going (in a fast manner) "So this x-mas, an nananana...anzznanaananazzz...whaznananannnanan... so this is x-mas" and she just run through it like triple double overtime. ME: (laughing) B: So our only suggestion would be that you slow it down some (laughing all around) ME: Oh, okay, so you don't like that sound B: Oh, no- it's alright, it's you singing- M: Well it's just over so quick- that way ME: It's on 78 I guess M: So how did you do? Did you remember part of it? Most of it? ME: Uh, part of it. You can get a little, a little piece of this song B: A taste M: Alright, so for you Christmas ME: This is for your Christmas show, that's airing tomorrow, right? M: Correct it is. ME: How about that M: We'll just slap this on there and just say she was there. B: Okay, do this, (cupping hands around mouth, making audience noise) ME: "Thank you very much--Mark and Brian's Christmas Show, Yeahhhhh!!!" (laughter all around) <<>> ME: (laughing) That's all I remember. B: That's great, that's great! ME: Okay, it goes into this other part! (mimicking herself) But how do I get there? (laughing all around) B: That just how John did it. (in a John Lennon accent) Okay, now it goes into the other part. Do you enjoy poetry--reading poetry, not just song lyrics but I mean do you have a favorite poet? ME: Actually I do, yeah, Pablo Noruda(sp?) Who was like obscure until they made that movie "Il Postino" which is about him. So, uh, he was spanish, and just this romantic, passionate, political poet. He's just wonderful. M: You know speaking of poetry and the song you just did, Lennon, John Lennon, somebody that I, you know, when he was around, of course I enjoyed the Beatles, and loved their music but I always thought he was kind of a nut. And, it's not until he's gone, way gone, long gone, that I realize he had the ideas--he had a clue as to what was--This guy took five years out of his life, he stopped his career so he could raise his kids and I'm thinking, "what, are you nuts?" I would love to do something like that, I mean this guy really had a clue as to what up. ME: Yeah, he... it's truly a loss, and sometimes it overcomes me that way and it's like gosh, you know, you get in this business and I think, ahh, I've met so many of my heroes and then I stop and go, 'but you know, I'll never get to meet John Lennon. M: Well you know, to take your ability on the guitar, your voice and to sing his words, I think are a marriage of three wonderful things and thank you for doing that, that was great. ME: I'll practice it next time B: No, no, no, it was perfect the way it was. ME: Thanks B: Jim, on 7. Hello Jim, you're on the air J: Hey how's it going Mark and Brian? B: Good M: Hanging J: Hi Melissa ME: Hi Jim J: I just want to say congratulations to you and Julie ME: Thank you very much J: And my question, I have just two small things this morning. I know your last show is coming up here in the end on December and I was wondering if there's perhaps a chance of any show in January, maybe a small club here in LA or if you're just---I'm sure you're really, really, you know, you're having a kid so you're probably a little busy with that- ME: Yeah J: -and also the girl I've been going out with for a year and a half left on a plane last night for Australia, and she was thinking about cancelling her whole trip, not because she'd miss Christmas with her family, or New Year's or any of that, it's because she was going to miss you in concert- ME: (chuckling) Oohh, gosh- J: She's just like a fanatic, so if you could say hi to her, I'm gonna play it to her, she's gonna call me next Monday from Australia- ME: Ohhh, cool J: I'm gonna play it to her on a tape, so if you could just say hi to her it'd be perfect ME: What's her name? J: Her name's Alisa ME: Alisa? J: Yes, ma'am ME: Alisa, what you go all the way to Australia for, you silly girl, you should have stayed for the show! J: She got beyond pissed at me because I wouldn't go with her to Santa Fe or Salt Lake City because, uh, I asked my boss for it off and he said if I went I'd be fired so she got mad at me because I couldn't go all the way to- ME: Oh, see how those fans are J: I know, I'm telling ya, but I just want to say congratulations and uh, I wasn't a big fan before I met her, but I've listened to your stuff and I was making a tape for her last night, before she was leaving--er, she was making a tape and I snuck a song on it because she asked me to like send her little notes to know that I was with her.. and uh, I put Occasionally on there because the first time I heard that it just, uh, it's a special song..I just wanna say thanks. ME: Well you're a cool guy J: Alright well take care, good luck with the baby ME: Thanks B: In honor of her, Melissa's got a new song with a derigidue(??) M: What do ya call it? B: Derigerydue ME: Derigerydue? B: I can never say that word. M: Alright now listen, if you're going to be touring around, and you're going to be in some of these spots, this is the leg-four in the last of Melissa's tour. She's gonna be in Vegas on the 10th of Dec, ME: Tonight M: Spokane on the 12th, 13th in Tacoma, WA, 15th in Portland, 17th in San Francisco, Frisco- Frisco by the bay ME: Frisco M: 18th gonna be in Sacramento, 20th gonna be in Phoenix, 21st in San Diego, 22nd here in LA. ME: Seesh, I'm tired. (laughing all around) B: Not that those shoes don't have already a magic energy, but that last show- ME: Oh, I know, B: -as you said, I mean, it's a bittersweet thing isn't it? ME: It is... it's like 'Oh it's the end....OH IT'S THE END' yeah, you know, because you get into, I mean, I've got this crew of thirty people that has been my family for a year and a half now, and it's like, 'Oh gosh, well bye' M: 'See ya' ME: 'See ya around' M: 'See ya around' ME: And it's actually the beginning of the rest of my life, a serious chapter of my life M: Yes it is, yes it is ME: And I'm so ready for that M: Oh, it's going to be so wonderful, you're just going to love this ME: I meant to tell that guy don't look for any gigs in Januuary..I am bound and home...I have promised to Julie I am going to pick up the remote when she drops it, I'm, whatever, I'm there. M: Well, I tell ya, one of the joys, one of the very first joys that you'll get, well one of the very first, there's many before this, but ah, when you first have your baby, the baby is just kind of there, and it's a blob and it eats, sleeps, and craps. ME: Mmmm M: And that's a good thing. But that first day that go home, and you walk in and you smile at your child and your child gives you a, she notices you or he notices you and kind of gives you(making a look) ME: Forget it, I'm hooked, right? M: Oh my god, let me just tell you something- cont...... ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 30 Dec 1996 to 31 Dec 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:[email protected]> Wed Jan 1 00:00:39 1997 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 00:00:04 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 31 Dec 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 19:35:33 -0500 From: Mle Love Subject: Mark&Brian cont. B: Alright, so let me get that straight- that's where they go from being a blob, (laughter all around) ME: that eats, sleeps, and craps B: to a child M: but I gotta tell ya, that really was--I'm a good diaper changer and did it and loved it, but that first smile that you get, when it's for you- ME: Whoaaaaaaa M: -is the best B: Is the nursery done? ME: The nursery is done, the room itself is done, and it's interesting how a mother gets very nesting, and Julie was like, "We have to fix this room" and I was like, "Oh, okay cool"... you know and carpenters and (making machine sounds) you know change it and now it's this beautiful nursery. We haven't, you know, filled it with things yet, I think we're.... you know it's hard to kinda, 'Oh, someone's coming' you know, and you don't know who they are, you don't know their personality, you don't know what they like. B: What about showers, you make goo on showers? ME: You know, I tell you what... Julie and I are so fortunate and so well off, and so-- we just have been blessed that we're actually not going to have a shower persay-- we might have a party where people bring some food and- M: Celebrate ME: Yeah, and anything anyone wants to give me- give it to a local shelter in our name, cuz we certainly have everything we need. M: Well I want you also to enjoy the first time your child learns to twist apart an oreo cookie. ME: Ooooooh M: And experiences the white stuff ME: Ahhhhhh! B: Be the last oreo cookie you'll ever eat M: (laughing) You better get what you get when the bag's first open, let me tell ya cuz they gone. B: Could you stay and do one more for us, and take us out? ME: Boy, I haven't planned one, but B: Oh, well, is that alright, what'd you think Reece(?)? If we take a quick break, you can do anything you want to do. ME: I'll think up a song B: Alright, alright, cool. Mark and Brian radio program wil return with one more from Melissa Etheridge. Don't go away. <<>> M: Welcome back, it's the Mark and Brian program, Melissa Etheridge is here, once again now, if you got busy with your life, and you didn't realize it, there is a new CD-well, I keep saying new-there is a CD out from Melissa, it's been out for awhile, she's been touring with it, but it's Your Little Secret. It'a another bunch of brand new songs from Melissa so go and grab you a copy--Hey, it's that perfect stocking stuffer.(laughing) B: Ah, but what isn't? The LA show is Sunday, Dec.22 at the Sports Arena. That is going to be "An Evening with Melissa" and it should be, am I correct in saying this, this will be the last show? ME: Last show B: Alright, so there is going to be not only the Melissa energy you get with every other concert she does, but this is going to have a little something extra to it, in fact--she's not gonna leave stage. ME: Probably not, they're probably gonna have to come out and get me and say, "Look, IT'S OVER--There's no one left in the audience". B: Might be longer than the Rush concert ME: Yeah M: We've had both Bob Seiger and John Mellencamp on the program. We would assume you've met both of them. ME: Yes M: What is the quality about their music that you wanted to take with you. Or that inspired you to pick up the pen the first time and jot down your story? ME: It was how I related to--it was what it meant to me as a listener first-not really as a musician, it was that I had to run out and get that album and listen to it because the music spoke to me and it felt good and it was what I liked and what I knew... You know, and then it became, 'Oh, that's the music that's in me', and 'that's the music that I make'. M: Mmmm. And it's still good- You know you can listen to a Seiger tune or a Mellencamp- it will be good for a long, long, long, long time. There's just another level to it that a lot of tunes these days musically-and I'm not cutting--music is music and you like what you like for the reasons that you like it-but there's a certain element to classic songs that are around for awhile- M: (con't) and they're around for awhile for a reason. And it's just cuz there's another three or four levels to it, and it appears as though your music has that quality. ME: Boy, I hope so. M: In fact, the tune you're about to do for us has that quality ME: Mmm hmmm. From the Yes I Am album... the song that did real well.(laughing). <<>> note: during each chorus, Mark and Brian joined in with their own makeshift instruments. ME: Oh, they are so talented! M: Yeah... we got it going on...check it out, check it out! B: Well, listen, thanks for that extra song, you weren't planning on singing it. ME: Oh, it was fine B: We can't thank you enough for being here- ME: You guys are great B: Taking the time to come in here man. ME: Thank you M: Ah, Melissa, you have graced on three occassions with your visitation, thank you again for choosing this ?? position. ME: See you again M: Alright B: Have fun with the baby ME: I will, I'll have fun with that baby. M: Yeah, we'll se you post-child ME: Yes, you will ---------------------------- And that's it folks! Just thought others who weren't able to hear would like to read it!!!!!!!! :} ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 23:16:32 -0500 From: Sue Molyneaux Subject: just looking for some help MAX asked what Teresa's Tattoo is... it's a movie directed by Julie Cypher, about a woman who is kidnapped and forced to pretend she is someone else. It includes roles and cameos by Mary Kay Place, kd lang, Keifer Surtherland, Melissa Etheridge, Nanette Fabre, Majel Barett, Lou Diamond Phillips, Nancy McKeon, and tons and tons of other folks. It's a camp comedy... kind of a 1990s screwball comedy. Sue ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:20:59 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: RS 4/16, live MLE Allison Fraiberg said in response to marcy's question: >>Rhondda said I'd figure out the name of a very successful music >group if >>I listened to RS 4/16. Uh, I'm clueless...I can't figure out what >group >>you're talking about. Will you please inform this slightly dull but >>eager student? thanks. -marcy > >U2? bingo (bono plays harmonica on RS 4/16). give the edge woman a lovely parting gift. ============================== Tim Dunker said: >Rhonnda (one of the nice person who took care while I felt almost >like hell) wrote on Dec. 29th: i hope you're feeling better! my cough's going away, too. :-) just in time to go back to work...grrr. >I am able to promise my girlfriend tonight, when the year 1996 turns >into 1997 that this year and probably even the year that follows I >won`t go to ANY Melissa Etheridge show .... and my girlfriend will >smile and will be happy about that. you know, i wonder how long MLE will be able to stay off the stage. she has said that she wants to take a long break with the baby and the movie, but that performing "jones" could sneak up at any minute. i wouldn't be surprised if she did pop up at least at a few benefit concerts (like the bridge concert ), if not full fledged concerts. >HAPPY NEW YEAR AND A BIG HUG TO EVERYONE I MET DURING MY TOUR a big cross atlantic hug back from me! :-) ============================== Deb said: >If she really thinks her shows are so boring that people would >rather sit home and listen to a live CD or watch a live video, she >should hang it up. She knows she's great live, I just don't follow >the logic there. or perhaps she wants them to spend their money on a concert and not a video. but you're right, it doesn't make sense. there are plenty of artists who routinely release live videos/cds and still sell gazillions of concert tickets. i'm just speculating here, but maybe she has seen the light (the waning concert audience), and could be worried about losing more fans. ok, i'm outta here. happy new year to everyone! *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:32:39 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: one more little thing (NMEC) geez, sometimes i have to wonder about my memory. i meant to include this lil' tidbit in my last post. i got together with the BAB-a-licious john miller last night for our dinner/xmas exchange/marathon tour stories . as those who have spent any substantial time with the BAB know, it never fails that some witty "bon mot" pops out at just the most opportune moment. last night was no exception. since neither kim luce nor sue d were there to memorialize the moment, i am stepping in (for the good of the list, of course ;-) ). we had just arrived at john's apartment, when i said to john, "take off your dickie." so, he did. :-) *rhondda* ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 31 Dec 1996 ***********************************