From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Fri Nov 1 18:05:29 1996 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:57:06 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 31 Oct 1996 to 1 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:12:03 -0800 From: velt1682 Subject: Re: Newsweek Article Carol Andredesz wrote: > I watch the hours go by at my desk. I can't wait. Who else is going to > the SF show? Hey, the Cow Palace, the place is used for Dirt Bike Races > and Monster Truck Shows all year. Once in a while I guess they clean it > up for an artist to perform. And to anyone who hasn't been there before, > in answer to your question, yes it does smell like that. > Carol (The list lurker steps out of her closet, so to speak) I'm hopefully going to the show. I bought tickets from MEIN so I'm waiting to see what happens. I'm very excited about going. It will be my first ME concert :) Well, back to going and freaking out little kids (Halloween's great, just joking by the way) Have fun! Kirstin Velt1682@tao.sosc.osshe.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 20:43:12 -0600 From: Patty Kolakowski Subject: concert pictures Hi, Thanks to everybody for the concert photo advice. Wish me luck. I'll keep your messges and if I get any good shots i"ll let you know. pk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:42:15 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: DUETS boot Michele Marie Bench said: >I didn't even know about the tape tree! (I haven't been on the list >that long). not too surprising, as i originally posted a branch announcement about 2 months ago. there's really no need to apologize to me. >I have access to a CD writer, and someone from the list had >contacted me about a copy, and I just thought - hey, I'll give this >a shot. I sold them at cost + mailing, so there's nothing in it for >me. Just wanted to let everyone love the CD as much as I do. so you have access to a recordable cd player? interesting... as long as you don't make any $ off of the endeavor, i see nothing wrong with it. it is an excellent boot. :-) *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 22:38:52 +0000 From: Rose Subject: Concert Tix available Hi All!! Delurking for a min to post some info. I have an extra MEIN Ticket to the Melissa Show in Chapel Hill on Nov 11th, that I am offering up to the first person on the list to mail me. Price is $40.00. As the ticket is a MEIN Ticket, I will not know until I pick them up at Will Call where the seat is. Let me know..... Rose Villa Diodati Music http://www.nternet.net/~albie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:20:43 -0400 From: Woot de Trixhe Nathalie Subject: Question about Newsweek Hi, I have a question about Newsweek : I tried to find it yesterday, I found the 4 November edition but ... there was not Melissa and Julie on the cover. Is the international edition (or european edition) of Newsweek different from the american version? Nie MLE's page : http://www.ping.be/~ping9791/mle.htm Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/03/nie/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 08:19:23 -0500 From: Toni Robinson Subject: Ellen, tWIM, & looking like Roseanne Hello listers! Doug Said: >common. Now on the subject of Ellen, was there a hint in last >night's show that I just completely missed? Uhm..I thought maybe it was a more obscure hint..a coming clean on things deeply hidden sorta thing. Sorry I missed Ellen on Sesame St...bet she was a hoot. >Now about the 20/20 interview this Friday - Barbara Walters is such a >flake. I saw an ad for the show last night the went something like >this: "Melissa Etheridge, controversial rock star. And she's also a >lesbian." Argh..gotta keep those ratings up I guess. >From: Jennifer Sutton >Hey y'all. Do anybody know what CD I can get the song "the Weakness in Me"? >I had the Ain't Nothin'but a She Thing which had the song on it, but one of >my friends scratched it and now Melissa speaks Japanese in the song :) I >absolutly love this song and want to get it again. SO...PLEASE HELP ME!!!! One of my very favorites too..you can get another copy of Ain't Nothin But a She Thing (love that title track too) from either your local record store, or from Ladyslipper, found at http://www.ladyslipper.org/ I don't believe the track has been released on any other CD, but I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong . BTW, does it sound to anybody else like ME's version goes: 'Are you so strong, or is all the weakness in me?', instead of 'Are you so strong, resolve the weakness in me' Dunno, but I think I'm singing along all wrong >From: Mary E Harbaugh >Subject: Melissa's little secret >It all goes back to that damn taxi. >See, I wrote her a fan mail, and I guess she just had too much pressure, >so she wrote me back, and said that she just *had* to tell somebody... LOL..you are a TRIP! >I don't know about Julie looking like Roseanne on the cover of >Newsweek, but I thought she looked just like Janeane Garafolo. >Anybody agree? >Lisa Yes..I thought so too as soon as I saw the pic...but I don't think she usually looks like her...it was the pose & the expression..and maybe that maternity thing she's got going on. >From: Carol Andredesz >Subject: Julie looking like JG >Yeah, I guess Julie might look a little like JG, but not like Roseanne. >About JG, is she gay? Hate to be so blatant, but I've recently wondered. Dunno, but I've wondered too. Speaking of looking or not looking like Roseanne..I get that all the time, and I don't think I look ANYTHING like Roseanne..but then ppl also used to tell me I look like Faye Dunaway...I think I've just got one of those faces that always look like somebody else AND unless I'm smiling, ppl ask me what's wrong too. Gotta work on that 'out to lunch' look I guess :-) Toni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 08:43:36 EST From: Wendy Waterstrat Subject: TWIM, & looking like Roseanne Toni Robinson wrote: > BTW, does it sound to anybody > else like ME's version goes: 'Are you so strong, or is all the weakness in > me?', instead of 'Are you so strong, resolve the weakness in me' Dunno, but > I think I'm singing along all wrong You're joking and I'm taking the bait, right? I'm quite sure that is what ME sings. That's what I've been singing all along, and under the impression those were the correct lyrics. I have one J. Armatrading CD, with that song on it but no accompanying lyrics, and I thought that she was singing the same thing but it could be my ears heard what they thought the words were instead of what they really are. I know there are some "real JA fans" on the list (Elaine?) who could "resolve" this quandary. > Dunno, but I've wondered too. Speaking of looking or not looking like > Roseanne..I get that all the time, and I don't think I look ANYTHING like > Roseanne..but then ppl also used to tell me I look like Faye Dunaway...I > think I've just got one of those faces that always look like somebody else > AND unless I'm smiling, ppl ask me what's wrong too. Gotta work on that > 'out to lunch' look I guess :-) The only "you look like" that I've gotten, once in an airport and once at school, is Jodie Foster, but I don't quite see it. 'out to lunch' look? Is that the look I have to practice? I thought I had that one down. :) Wendy "I believe we can fly on the wings that we create" - MLE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 08:52:23 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: NMEC: FAB'ers and Philly Pub Crawl Sounds good Randy!! On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Randy wrote: > for the Philadelphia Area Bunch: so maybe we, us'ns, on this end of the state > should be the FABbers!!!! YES, the Filladelphia Area Bunch. Whadda ya think?? > FABulous! Our first official get together is next weekend Saturday 9th "The Philly Pub Crawl", I'm designating Francie(swimfishie@aol.com) as our official Philly Hostess and was hoping Elizabeth Meadows would also lend a hand? Hey there Liz where you been, can you come out and play next weekend? Attendee's to date are: Sue D(I swear she is semi-normal just a little Melissa crazed :]), Francie, Beth Durff(Who is jus Chic crazed),Randy(Crazed to finally meet up with us Listers), myself(Healthy at last), a few non-listers and who ever else who can join us! Have a good weekend everyone and you can rest peacefully kowing that I'll be on duty this weekend doing the military thing. :] Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 09:32:59 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: Newsweek cover photo Francie Trout posted: >Randy...Melissa is about 5'4", probably in boots, 5'3" barefoot. I was >surprised she was that short the first time I met her. Julie is taller than >Melissa, say about 5'7" or 5'8". I found it rather interesting how Melissa and Julie were posed on the cover of Newsweek. Melissa is at least 4 inches shorter than Julie - yet in the photo, it appears just the opposite, that Melissa is several inches taller. It struck me as being a bit stereotypical in that I felt it gave the impression that Melissa was representing the strong protector (read husband figure) and Julie was representing the pregnant "wife." Come to think of it, in most of the pictures I've seen of Melissa and Julie where they're touching each other, Melissa is the one holding Julie or standing behind her (even in the PETA ad).... except in the photo spread in the Advocate when Melissa came out as a lesbian. In those shots, Melissa was snuggling in Julie's arms and you could definitely see that she is much shorter than Julie. I'm curious whether it's Melissa and Julie's preference to pose in ways to make Melissa look like she's taller or whether it's the photographers who decide. In any event, IMHO it seems that the mainstream media tends to view Melissa as the dominant (butch) partner and Julie as the supportive wife (femme) partner. I'm interested in seeing how Barbara Walters interacts with them during the interview. ************** Tracey, I'm very glad to hear that you weren't seriously hurt in your car accident. A beemer, huh? Very, very cool. What color? I'm also happy for you that you're staying in the 'burgh cause I know you love it there. Next time we're in town, I'll give you a holler and maybe we can do the South Side or hit Rosebuds or something. And Jen's never ridden on an incline. :-) ************** For those of you waiting for copies of my D.C. Listers Macarena pictures.... soon, very soon. Okay, I admit it. I've been putzing and haven't gotten around to dropping off the negatives... (sheepish grin) but I'm gonna do it this weekend. Promise. Gwen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:32:21 -0500 From: Kimberly R Gassner-Harkness Subject: Julie/Roseanne twinkies Hey all, Just delurking for a bit to say: D'OH!! I think Julie looks like Roseanne becasue she's chunked out a bit, what with being PREGNANT and all. I agree with whoever said Julie looked too pissed off. The cover should have been a happier one. I'm sure it wasn't Melissa's and Julie's choice to look so serious. Peace Kim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 10:50:59 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: BAB? They are the greatest bunch of Listers out there, well next to the FAB. :] John Juan De Miller is kind of the Unofficial leader so I'm sure you will be hearing from him shortly. Hi ya John still ready for me over Christmas? I'll be e-mailing you privately in the near future with arrival plans and some other news! Shirl(BAB'er at Heart) Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:33:26 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: Skiing, shorts and coffee The Punster wrote: >It's funny though, whenever any of my siblings "accidentally" makes a >pun, they say, "hey I just said a Karen". Gee, imagine that. LOL! >Another amusing thing is that I can befriend a person that has never >even thought of a pun before, then after knowing me for awhile they all >of a sudden start punning away. It really is contagious. It's like peanuts; you just can't stop after just one. >Kare, who thinks that Michelle and her should get an act going and >take it on the road. Take it on the road, huh? Well, there's always the danger of "driving" people away. Then again, I don't think you would "steer" me wrong, and I'd never "tire" of punning with you. My mind is "racing" with the possibilities of "Pun Tour '97." I guess our meeting on this list was no "accident." :) Michelle, who can't wait to see Melissa live tomorrow night!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:12:58 -0500 From: audrey Subject: JABOA (NMEC) In light of recent abbreviation questions, here's a list of acronyms someone sent me a while ago, FWIW! ROTFL - Rolling on the floor laughing ROTFLTICOTC - Rolling...laughing till I crapped on the rug LOL - Laughing out loud; lots of laughs BRB - Be right back BTW - By the way LSHTIPMP - Laughing so hard that I pee my pants BBIAT - Be back in a tick (from our overseas neighbors) KWIM - Know what I mean MYOB - Mind your own business IMHO - In my humble opinion IMNSHO - In my not so humble opinion NQAS - Not quite a smile FWIW - For what it's worth PMFJI - Pardon me for jumping in FFS - Fat-Fingered-Syndrome IYDK - If you didn't know JABOA - Just another bunch of acronyms I'm sure there's millions more out there. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:04:46 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: beemer's, whoisinthetaxi, bunch's Tracey wrote: >The big DC move has been cancelled! Does this mean I can come visit you in that *beautiful* house of yours? and she also said: >thanks to a "high speed interface" I almost died a horrible death with it, thank heaven for seat belts. Oh Tracey ! I'm glad you're ok... Beemer huh? __________________________________________ my bud Mary relayed the following from Melissa: >The whole song is about this woman I was having an affair with- she was a >fan; I met her after one of my shows. I never found out her name, but >I'll tell you, it was her Honda that really charmed me... ??????? rot roh.... and this: >Then I looked at her lover, and it was Barbara Walters- from 20/20... I >couldn't believe it! ROTFLMAO !!! and this: >How does this all tie in you ask? Well, my publicist scheduled an >interview with Barbara Walters on 20/20! I just know, she'll ask about that >Honda-driving woman, and ask how Julie got pregnant... ?? I'll be sure to watch now.... and Mary said: >Well, now, the truth is out. I though the list should know before it >became public on Friday. Thanks for the info ! This Honda driving chick owes you some email - you definitely got my attention __________________________________ Randy wrote: >OK, the Bay area has its "BAB" (Bay Area Bunch), Jeep Owners have >their "JOB" titles, those in DC are the DClisters (gotta better idea?), >someone mentioned the "PAB" (Pittsburg Area Bunch)... WE were gonna use "PAB" >for the Philadelphia Area Bunch: so maybe we, us'ns, on this end of the state >should be the FABbers!!!! Don't forget about the newly formed Harrisburg Area Bunch (HAB) and the Honda Owner's Bunch (HOB)...hmmmm...if I'm a member of both, *which* should take precedence? Have a good weekend everyone! Beth (the Honda driving chic magnet who's gonna be watching 20/20 tonight) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:28:47 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: My Melissa Story... Okay, you guys asked for my Melissa experience, so here it is... I apologize for the length... I didn't paragraph it so it would be shorter... But... I hope you enjoy it... I have one more Melissa story. It's not a meeting but a story about how she saved me... If you want another long story let me know... Don't hate me for writing so much. It's a bad habbitt... =7 ************************************************* I just finished reading the digest and all the requests for stories about Melissa encounters... Well, here is mine... =) It's a long story and I tried to make it short, but how can you do that when it's about Melissa... Sorry for taking up so much space... =7 I met Melissa when she did the taping of MTV Unplugged... I heard on the radio, (Z100 in NY), that they were giving away tickets to see your choice of performers tape Unplugged at a secret location... They told us the performers: Live, Sheryl Crow, Hole, the Cranberries, and of course Melissa Etheridge... I vowed right then and there that I was going to see Melissa... I listened to the radio all day that day, Thursday, and all day Friday, Saturday, and Sunday... =7 I didn't move from the radio... I went to work in our family's store on Monday, a Native American, New Age Gallery and played Z100 all day. Not really the type of music you usually hear in a store like that, but I think this exception was allowed =)... On Tuesday morning I was lying in bed reading a magazine and looking at a small picture of Melissa... I heard the DJ say, "Caller 100 will go to see their choice of an Unplugged taping. Call now!"... So, I called... I got a busy signal over and over, you guys must know what that's like... Then as the song on the radio ended and "Like The Way I Do" began, the DJ answered the phone and told me I was caller 100... I freaked. I screamed. I basically lost it. I am surprised that he actually gave me the tickets. I think he just now must be getting his hearing back! =) I was in shock... The taping was a few weeks away and I was in a daze all those two weeks... It was quite funny when I think about it... =) When the day arrived I was trying to stay calm. See, I have tourette syndrome. For those of you who don't know what that is, it is a disorder that causes people to make involuntary vocal noises, body movements, facial expressions, etc. They are called "tic's" and over 1 million people have tourette syndrome... Anyway, when I get nervous, excited, angry or stressed it gets a bad... So you can imagine how much I was "ticking" that night! =) I informed the radio people that I had TS and that they should let the camera people know so that no one would think I was trying to make a scene or anything. Then I handed this nice woman a card for Melissa. My sister and I went on-line and waited... About 10 minutes later someone wearing an MTV laminate and the radio station woman came over to us and asked us to come inside. I was a little nervous. I had problems in the past before regarding the tourette and I was praying that nothing bad was going to happen... I was already thinking lawsuit! LOL... The gentleman with the pass asked me to explain what tourette was and what exactly might happen. I told him that the last thing I wanted was to do anything to interfere with Melissa's performance. He asked me if I watched a song during rehearsal and then watched the show from the production room would that be okay. I agreed that would be fine. This very nice woman took us into the theater and told us not to freak if we saw Bruce Springsteen... He was going to sing a song with Melissa... We walked about half way down the aisle and sat down. I saw here on stage, so close, yet so far away... She was singing, "If I Wanted To". I was so excited and full of love... I was nervous, too... I made a few noises and Melissa jumped... I felt really bad. Even worse when someone asked us to move up to the balcony because I was making her nervous... I started to cry... We watched the rest of the song from the balcony, my sister had her arm around me and all these MTV people kept coming over to us and bringing t-shirts, backpacks, and hats... It was nice but it didn't help. We were escorted out after she finished and we waited while they let all the people in and lined them up. I was feeling really down. I didn't know if the tourette was a curse or a blessing that night. All I wanted was to see Melissa sing. To see her smile... I love her so much and she helped me through so much... I guess you all can understand that... =) After they had all the people seated they led us to the production room. We walked over the stage and backstage and into this large room with a ton of people. Everyone was being super nice to us. They cleared a lot of people out and offered us a drink and made us feel really welcome. I was feeling so sad, but still thankful that I was there... When it was show time, I kept my eyes on the door and I got a quick glimpse of Melissa as she walked towards the stage. For the next hour my eyes were glued to the small monitor on the table and my ears were trained to the speaker on the wall. It was not how I would have liked to see the show but I was so captivated by her words and music that it didn't even matter to me... The staff was being great, and quiet because it was hard to hear... I cried and laughed and sang... It was wonderful... She was wonderful... =) After the show, someone from MTV came over to me and handed me the set list. It seemed that everyone knew who my sister and I were... Then as we thanked everyone and got up to leave, a woman came over and told us to wait for a few minutes and then she would bring us upstairs. I was like, "What?!"... It seems that my sister, God bless her, had done a little stemming, and had asked if it was at all possible for me to meet Melissa. They took us upstairs and we waited for about 10 minutes. People kept going in and out of the dressing room. My heart was pounding so loud and I was shaking. It seemed like a dream. Then the door opened and out walks Melissa. I walked over to her and introduced myself. She said hello and introduced herself to me. It was so sweet... =) She gave me a hug and apologized for the rehearsal. She said that no one told her that I was there and she was a ball of nerves with Bruce being there and very jumpy to begin with. And she apologized again. I told her not to worry, that it happens all the time and I was used to it. She asked me if I liked the show and I told her I loved it. I told her that what she said about Bruce was how I felt about her and one day my dream was to share the stage with her. That she was such an inspiration to me and I loved her. She smiled one of her warm Melissa smiles and gave me a big hug. My sister was standing behind me and she told me that Melissa had such a loving look on her face wen she was hugging me! =) I love her so much! My sister and Melissa! =) Melissa asked me if I would like an autograph and I said sure. She pulled a piece of paper that said "green room" on it off of the wall and signed it for me. Then she gave my sister a hug and said thank you to us for coming. She hugged me again and went back inside the room... We walked downstairs, me clinging to the railing because I thought I was gonna fall my legs were shaking so much... The woman who we were talking to before we went upstairs saw us as we walked out and asked us if we met her. I gave her a big hug and thanked her about a million times. She asked me to write down my address so she could send me some souvenirs from the show and as I was waiting for her to give me her number Melissa walked out of the backstage area and down the aisle. I turned towards her and she smiled at me and reached out and squeezed my arm. I reached my hand out to her and she took it, gave it a squeeze and held onto it as she walked past me and out of the theater... The woman from MTV smiled at me and I had tears in my eyes when I thanked her again. As my sister and I were leaving another woman from MTV stopped us and asked us if we got to meet Melissa. I said yes and she said, "Good. She was afraid you'd leave before she got the chance to see you.". I stopped dead in my tracks and walked over to her and said, "What?" She told me that Melissa had gotten my card and read it before the show. She knew I was not in the audience and watching from the production room and she wanted to meet me. It took me a few seconds to get what she said... Melissa wanted to meet me! Wow... I hugged that woman, too. It seems that all the people at MTV and Z100 knew who we were and I had no idea who any of them were. But they were all so nice... As my sister and I walked out into the rainy night to find my Dad I asked her, "Was I a nervous, babbling wreck when I met Melissa?" She told me not at all. She said if I had been acting I would have won an Oscar... =) She said that I handled myself really well, despite what I was feeling inside! =) It took me a long time to get over the shock of that night. I guess the tourette was a blessing that time around. You know, it's funny. Everyone has something in their life that they wish they could fix, or change or get rid of. I have other medical problems aside from the tourette. But if someone asked me if I could be free of one thing, what would I choose... I would not pick the tourette... It has made me who I am today and it is a part of my life. Yeah, it sucks sometimes, but I look at it as a challenge rather than a burden. I have a path to walk in life. It's really bumpy sometimes, and other times it's pretty smooth. But I am thankful for one thing... Whatever the circumstances are, or the condition of my path in life, I always have Melissa playing her music to accompany me on my journey... And that is my story... =) Love and Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:57:12 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Teresa's Tattoo On Tue, 29 Oct 1996 Sooz911@AOL.COM wrote: > Got a catalog today from a business called Alternative Creations. They sell > artwork, jewelry, etc & they also sell videos. They have "Teresa's Tattoo" > on VHS listed for $19.95. I believe it was first released much higher than > that. If you want to order a catalog from them, their number is > 1-800-963-0004. And I think it still is listed at $79.95 or more -- make sure you're not buying pirated copies. I saw their ad in the ADVOCATE, they claim to have a few of the PETA posters too. -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:10:34 -0800 From: Lisa Richards Subject: Re: Linda Perry I've been listening to Linda Perry's new cd (In Flight) constantly here at work. I love her voice - it's quite different. All the songs are growing on me. My favorite one today is "Fill Me Up" and the song with Grace Slick, "Knock Me Out" rawks! I highly recommend it and by the way she's touring and will be in Seattle Nov. 30th. - Harley ******************************************************** Lisa Richards Adobe Systems Inc IS Operations 411 1st Avenue S. Novell Administrator Seattle WA 98104 lirichar@adobe.com 206-470-7733 ******************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:13:42 -0800 From: velt1682 Subject: BABers One question... What would you call someone who is origionaly from the SF Bay Area, now going to school in Oregon, but comming back to see the ME concert in SF? Just a query... Kirstin Now back to our regularly schedualed study session. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:14:04 GMT From: Maggie at avalon Subject: Re: BABers Kirstin wrote: >One question... > >What would you call someone who is origionaly from the SF Bay Area, now >going to school in Oregon, but comming back to see the ME concert in SF? Lucky. :) Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:30:42 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: singles list Just out of curiosity, how's the singles list concept working out? I think someone (Vanessa?) mentioned awhile back that about 30 people had expressed an interest in the list. Gwen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 20:54:49 -0800 From: Andrea Tan Subject: Techno CTMW? BABbers Tracey Thacker wrote: > my jeep has died a horrible, total-loss death. And I almost died a horrible >death with it, thank heaven for seat belts. Oh my god... Relieved you're ok! >Tomorrow, however, when I pick up my new car, I can become > a member of a new group of MEListers, if anyone else wants to be a member of > the BDB - Beemer Driving Bunch. Any takers? Ooh, whatcha get? Wait...5th or 7th series? Black 735...don't know my numbers too well. ........................................................... From: Carol Andredesz Subject: BAB? >Hey, >I live in the Bay Area, who's the BAB? Which folks are in that bunch? Me! But John's the head BABber so I'll let him do the intros... =) ........................................................... Ugh, dunno if this has been discussed before but it almost made me sick. I was listening to some dance stuff when this...this...*thing* started playing. I was like, these lyrics sound familiar...this almost sounds like...ACK!!! It's the dance version of CTMW!!!!! Ick! Truly scary. I was gonna jump out of the car but it was moving. Brrrr!!!! =) Ok, that's enough posting from me...later! Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:44:59 -0800 From: Marleen Niekel Subject: Perry, Snowboarding, Timezones... (SMEC) Hi there, Since more and more lurkers seem to come out of lurkdom, I've decided to give it a try as well (So, please be easy on me, or I'll dive right back into lurkdom;-) BTW, I can't seem to figure out how to quote several messages from the digest, so I'll be improvising (sorry if I mess it up). * roger zender wrote: > ANYWAY, He asked Linda about other lesbian Rock stars and she > said she'd LOVE to meet K.D.Lang but when he mentioned ME, she didn't say > much. Is there something there I don't know about, or was it just too > early in the morning for me to be driving to school and thinking about > going to my Interpersonal Communication class? I'm not sure, but I don't think she likes her a lot. Just read this part of an interview with Perry, conserning Melissa and Tori. (BTW I found this on the Dutch homepage of Radio 3 FM, for all the dutchies) ---------------------------------- So do you get that whole thing like now being compared all this female singers and songwriters? "Yes I do. But I'm a woman you know. So they have to. I'm asked this question a lot and I came up with a very good answer. This guy asked me: "If you were put together with Tori Amos and Melissa Everidge, which one do you feel closer to musically?" And I said: If you put Tori Amos and Melissa Everidge in the same room with me, I kick their ass." We try to arrange that! If we put you in a ringfight with Tori Amos and Melissa Everidge, you kick their ass? "Yes, I kick their ass!" ------------------------ They even got "Etheridge" spelled wrong:-( what kinda article is that! Or is there also a Melissa Everigde out there?:-) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* * I believe it was "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" who wrote: > This reminds me though, does anyone on this > list like to ski, hmmm, I have an idea. Why don't we take a ski pole? Skiing, that's fun. But has anyone ever tried snowboarding??? That's what I call FUN!!! Any snowboarders on this list??? But since I'm from Holland (the lowlands) you can imagine how rarely I'm on the board. Gotta wait a few more months:-( (Thomas, maybe???;-) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ American listers (or anybody else who knows the answer) I need your help. PLEASE help me out on this one!!! I know that Storytellers is gonna be broadcasted on November 9th at 10pm, but what time-zone are we talking 'bout??? Does anyone know what time it will be in Holland then??? minus 6, 7, 8 hours??? PLEASE Lemme know. And POOH, maybe you should start looking for some Dr. Martens, instead of Dr. Martins, and you might find them after all. * * Or is the "e" only there on my docs?;-) OKAY, I've been out of lurkdom for much too long. Have a nice weekend, Marleen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:23:19 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: whothehellisinthetaxi, TWIM, linda perry, tape trees, BAB Mary E Harbaugh hilariously said: >Begin Official Melissa Etheridge Letter to Me LOL! excellent stuff ... i haven't laughed so hard, since "missy" (and her wooden leg) used to post on a regular basis. ;-) ============================== Jennifer Sutton said: >Hey y'all. Do anybody know what CD I can get the song "the Weakness >in Me"? I had the Ain't Nothin'but a She Thing which had the song >on it, but one of my friends scratched it and now Melissa speaks >Japanese in the song :) I absolutly love this song and want to get >it again. SO...PLEASE HELP ME!!!! well, if you're looking for MLE's cover of TWIM, buy the "ain't nothin..." cd again. as far as i know, this cd is the only legit release with this version, although there are a few boots with live versions on them. ============================== roger zender said: >Anyway, what do all of you think about Linda Perry (formerly of 4 >non blondes for those of you that might not know)? She played a >quick acoustic of her big hit with them (I forget the name of it) >and it sounded REALLY good. She was promoting her new album, and I >admit in not a good way, but I was wondering if any of you have >heard it? It could be interesting. and Carol Andredesz asked: >So, is Linda Perry coming out with some solo work, or is she still >with her old band? They seemed pretty tight. no, 4 non blondes has broken up. their big hit was "what's up". linda has gone solo, and has just released her first solo release, "in flight", which was produced by the same producer who produced sheryl crow's TNMC (i've read an article which said that linda was nicknamed the "anti-sheryl" by this producer ). "in flight" was only available as an import, but has just been released domestically. KFOG has been playing linda's song, "fill me up", fairly regularly. linda will be playing slim's in san francisco on december 4th (i believe that's the date), i'm assuming as part of a national tour. i don't believe that tickets have gone on sale yet. ============================== Kiva Kamerling asked: >Um... I have a question... What's this tape tree...? I would like to >become involved if I can =) Can someone give me some info... A >post or e-mail? >Thanks... =) depends on which tree you're asking about. there's 2 currently running right now - separately by deb and mike lieman (although i think mike's is closed) - and mine will be announced very soon. a tape tree is when someone (a trunk) provides tapes to branches, who in turn make copies for leaves. it's a great way to share some wonderful music with many people for little cost. ============================== Carol Andredesz wondered: >I live in the Bay Area, who's the BAB? Which folks are in that >bunch? BAB - Bay Area Bunch; originally coined by the illustrious margo hellyer (hell, yeah!) from melbourne, australia. rather than asking who's in the BAB, it might be easier to ask who isn't. the last time i counted, there's something like 2 dozen list members in my BAB email group. our main BAB rah-rah, the leather clad wonder john miller (aka "map boy", "cookie man", "john juan demiller", etc.), periodically organizes gatherings, email newsletter mailings, etc. and in response to recent BASS questions, i've been currently corresponding with a few bay area lurkers . looks like the BAB could get even bigger ... *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:38:58 -0500 From: "Eidel Lisa Consultant (Temp)" Subject: Hi everyone! I have been one of the fortunate Melissa Etheridge fans who have met her. In fact, I've met her on 3 different occasions. The first time I met her was after her concert at The Paramount Theatre in NYC while she was on tour for Never Enough. After the concert we were outside and just happened to talk to a guy who knew what hotel she was at. So my friends and I, along with a bunch of people we had never met, went to the hotel and waited about an hour. We met members of the band and Melissa and got autographs from all. The next two times happened about 2-3 months from one another. She was in the city doing a local newsbroadcast interview and I knew someone at my job whose boyfriend worked at NBC. He told us where to stand in the lobby and when she came downstairs, I took a picture of her holding a sign I made that said "Hi Janet" (my girlfriend's name). It's a really cool picture. The 3rd time was again when she was at NBC. When she came outside the building, I did something I had always wanted to do but had always forgotten to do because I was always caught up with getting autographs and pictures before. This time, I extended my hand and told her how much I loved her music. She looked right into my eyes, took my hand with both of hers and said "Thank you very much". I could tell it meant a lot. At that moment, I could have been struck dead by a passing automobile and it would have been fine with me. (Another thing that I will always remember is how soft her hands were. Weird, huh?) I was always hesitant to tell my stories because I didn't want it to sound like I was bragging. I was in the right place at the right time and there was a lot of luck involved. I hope that others will have the same amount of luck I've had. Talk to you all soon. Have a good weekend! Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:57:21 EST From: Mary E Harbaugh Subject: ME Guitar tab Hello, Fellow Listers, and a happy afternoon/evening to all of you who are in time zones where it is afternoon/evening, and happy night/morning to all of you who are in time zones where it is night or morning! ( I think I got everyone now... ) I have a question for you. Does anyone know a place on the net where I can find guitar tablature for Melissa's songs? Apprehensively waiting for tonight's 20/20, mary :-) http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/1827 ____________________________________________________________ no one is free when others are oppressed ____________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 31 Oct 1996 to 1 Nov 1996 - Special issue ***************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sat Nov 2 00:00:59 1996 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:00:20 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 1 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:47:07 -0500 From: Cynthia Donohue Subject: MEC: Article - St. Petersburg Times This is a pre-concert article that ran in the St. Petersburg Times, today. All typos may be blamed on my scanner. I also scanned the two photos (approximately 8" x 14" - 130K each). If you would like me to e-mail the jpeg files to you, send me a private e-mail. Enjoy! ============= EVERYWHERE TO GO The world is wide open for Melissa Etheridge, who balances being a rock star, lesbian role model and, soon, a mom. By ERIC DEGGANS, Times Pop Music Critic St. Petersburg Times, St. Petersburg, Florida November 1, 1996 For years, Melissa Etheridge had a soft spot in her heart for President Clinton. After all, it was during the Gay and Lesbian Triangle Ball - a victory party for Clinton held by his gay supporters during the 1993 inauguration - that Etheridge took the stage with her friend k.d. lang and confirmed to the world what had been obvious since her early days building a following in gay bars across the country. She was, and still is, a lesbian. But ask the blond rocker about the president these days and you'll get a decidedly different reaction. Dismayed by his decision to sign the Defense of Marriage Act - a bill denying federal recognition and benefits to couples of the same sex who might marry (Clinton released a statement saying he has "long opposed same-sex marriage") - Etheridge stops short of actually denigrating Clinton, though it's obviously taking a lot of effort to stay cordial. "I get a lot of hope from thinking about one of our greatest presidents, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who refused to sign an anti-lynching law. . . . These days, that would be considered ridiculous," says the superstar, who maintains she will not actively endorse or oppose Clinton this time around, even though he has her vote. "I believe the best thing I can do is live a good life ... maybe change a few fearful minds," she adds. "I think, year by year, things are getting better. Hopefully, 20 years from now, we'll be able to laugh about this with our kids." In many ways, Etheridge can be considered a poster child for the '90s-style lesbian relationship. A million-selling rock star, she has announced her commitment to filmmaker Julie Cipher and, most recently, Cipher's pregnancy, with the baby due Jan. 25. Well-accustomed to life in the public eye, Etheridge and Cipher have already drawn strict limits on what the public will and won't be told about their child. No, they won't divulge how the baby was conceived (leading to all sorts of ugly tabloid speculation about the involvement of Cipher's ex-husband, actor Lou Diamond Phillips). No, the father's identity will not be released to the public, though the chi1d will certainly be told. And no, the baby won't be brought onstage - at least not until he or she is old enough to ask. In fact, Etheridge is hoping that journalists will be so busy covering Madonna's new baby, Lourdes, that they'll just forget about her and Cipher completely. "Yeah, maybe 60 Minutes will camp out on her doorstep instead of mine," the singer says, laughing. "What made the decision for us is timing," adds Etheridge, who won't rule out someday carrying a baby herself though she knows that at age 35 the biological clock is ticking. "Julie was between films, while we would have had to wait another year for me to have the first one. We thought it would be a little easier, with me being on tour until January, but I wish I was home right now." Too bad for Etheridge, because she's now hip deep in a tour aimed at bringing her fine album, Your Little Secret, to the masses. Coming on the heels of her blockbuster breakthrough record, 1993's Yes I Am (now at 3.7-million copies sold, according to SoundScan), Little Secret should have been an event of Hootie-esque proportions. But sales stalled at just over 1-million, hampered by a lack of radio play and near-palpable disinterest in the marketplace. Some wondered if her up front lyrics relating to life and love as a lesbian - ranging from the hard-rocking title track and the simmering-to-soaring groove An Unusual Kiss to the driving anthem Nowhere to Go - may have put off a mainstream rock audience that's still not totally comfortable with her sexuality. Etheridge lays the blame on another culprit: her own desire to get a new record into stores quickly. "It really was a case of me putting out something a little too soon ... cutting off the success of the last record with this one," she says. "I'm still selling as many copies of Yes I Am as Your Little Secret. . . I'm at that point where people are wondering which songs are on which albums." And just like the guys in Hootie, Etheridge realizes that the chart-busting success of Yes I Am may be a pinnacle she'll never reach again, anyway. "I think I finally penetrated the world of popular music with Yes I Am, and I'm going to have a steady career that sometimes is really up and sometimes is just okay," she says. "Besides, this album has some of the best songs I've ever written. I think it's going to sell slowly and steady for the rest of my life." One listen to Little Secret's potent 10-song collection and it's hard to argue. I Want To Come Over, her emotional tale of reaching for the right love, no matter what the consequence, chugs along on her gutsy vocals and layers of buoyant guitar work, while the title track rides a killer drum sound and time-tested rock guitar riffs to anthemic ecstasy. But critics have reserved their most lavish praise for Nowhere to Go, a coming-of-age tune that starts with a dreamy melody and builds to a powerful chorus in a direct homage to one of her biggest idols, Bruce Springsteen. Describing Etheridge's journey to accepting her own sexuality in her tiny hometown of Leavenworth, Kan., the song mirrors sprawling Springsteen epics like Born To Run and Rosalita. "I've tried so hard over the years to avoid sounding like him, even though he's obviously an influence, that I decided this time to completely go for it" she says, laughing again. "It's funny, because one of the things I always wanted to do was a solo tour. Now, if I do it everybody will say I'm doing what he did." Continuing the trend, Etheridge also snagged rock drummer extraordinaire Kenny Aronoff - recently freed from a 12-year-long gig with heartland rocker Mellencamp - in time to jump onto Etheridge's tour, replacing her longtime sticksman Dave Beyer. "I got him (Aronoff) to play a few tracks on (Little Secret), and I fell in love with him," she says. "When he parted ways with John and gave me a call, I had to say yes. It was a tough decision, but I wanted to take the opportunity to play with one of the drummers of my dreams... He just takes it to another level." For his part, Aronoff knew he could light a spark under Etheridge's live show. "Her previous drummer was very good, but her people told me they needed something extra - a fire in the band," says the drummer. I knew from working with her in the studio that I could kick in what she needed." So these days, Etheridge is concentrating on enjoying her live performances, secure in the knowledge that she'll come off the road in 1997 to a new baby and a new concept in her off-stage life: a vacation. "I've toured for eight years straight..... and that needs to change," she says. "Child or no child - I need a break. I want people to look around and say, 'Where did that Melissa Etheridge go, anyway?' " ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:31:12 GMT From: Maggie at avalon Subject: Re: ME Guitar tab Mary asked: >I have a question for you. Does anyone know a place on the net where I >can find guitar tablature for Melissa's songs? You can find a few songs (mostly just chords) at this site: http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/tab.html This is a mirror site of OLGA - On Line Guitar Archive, which used to have a home at UNLV (I think). The original archive was shut down by university administration when EMI threatened to sue over copyright violations. I don't know if the mirrors have been adding new entries since then. The last time I checked it, there weren't all that many songs listed for ME, and I don't know if more have been added recently. Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:57:39 -0600 From: Patty Wilcox Subject: NMEC: JR's Lonely Trace, I'm really glad to hear you're OK and that your Jeep kept you safe, but sad to know that I've lost a fellow JOBber. What with Shirl turning to the Honda crowd and you going for a "MLE special", BMW, that is, I guess I should change my nickname from Roxy to "The Lone Wrangler". Hi, Ho J.R. ................... away.................... The Lone Wrangler (aka: Roxy, Patty, Head-Butt Extraordinaire.....) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:26:59 -0500 From: Tei at netcom Subject: POOH Hello to all... and did we survive halloween? POOH i just godda tell you this.... Last night my son who will be 4 in december was dressed up in the cutiest POOH outfit (thanx to disney) He is only 37" tall and from the back he looked like the real critter! Not just being a proud mama... he was verry popular in his costume...people from across the street were yellin... hey it is POOH!! he is so cute!!! even other little kids wanted to meet him.... thought he might just be the real thing... He wound up with a real sticky face due to the high honey content in his candy! funny this morning that his face was stuck to his pillow!! less the honey jar! (which is my favorite pooh image by far) Did I mention to you that I used to live in the hundred acre wood? If ya really need to know where it is... It is located in New Boston New Hampshire...(for those of you whom like trivia... New Boston,NH is the center of gravity for the entire world) When I get a photo and then access a scanner ... I will send you a pic of him as POOH! I really think you will appreciate it! That is all for now.... Only 2 weeks to TEXAS!!!!! your fellow lister, tei! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 04:06:17 GMT From: "Charles A. Kunz" Subject: Howard Stern / Linda Perry roger zender wrote: > I was just listening to Howard Stern this morning (I know, I know, I >was just scanning the channels). Anyway he had Linda Perry on there. I heard it too, she was on early so I missed some of it while I was in the shower. >ANYWAY, He asked Linda about other lesbian Rock stars and she >said she'd LOVE to meet K.D.Lang but when he mentioned ME, she didn't say >much. Is there something there I don't know about, or was it just too >early in the morning for me to be driving to school and thinking about >going to my Interpersonal Communication class? I wondered what it was all about too. I'm clueless :) >Anyway, what do all of you think about Linda Perry (formerly of 4 non >blondes for those of you that might not know)? She played a quick >acoustic of her big hit with them (I forget the name of it) and it >sounded REALLY good. She was promoting her new album, and I admit in not >a good way, but I was wondering if any of you have heard it? It could be >interesting. "What's Up" was the song she played, I loved that album when I got it in '93, for a while I was playing it at least once a day. When I got home that day I pulled out the CD and played it yet again, what a cool album! It kind of trippy, but fun. Now I have to buy Encomium (the Led Zeppelin tribute that has their final recording together) and Linda's new one, I love Linda! Chuck drchuck@netusa.net http://www.netusa.net/~drchuck/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:32:32 -0500 From: Tei at netcom Subject: incesent babble...some MEC...some WE-YRD hello listers;;; tei here.... i just can't stand it I have to finally address it!! When I first started considering the texas tour I called MEIN of course.. At that time I was notified of the Cali tour!! It sounded so tempting... however it saddened me to have to admit that it was just traveling too close to the holidays to do so and remain responsible and stable at the same time.... gosh darn fricket... Of course being her final show in LA ... mein informed me that the previous show in SanDiego is only a 2500 person venue... makes for a rather intimate setting dontcha agree???? So you Cali Listers in the SD area should definatly hop on that one right away!!! And anyone who is free of their own responsibilities to catch that mein tour!! while i continue to babble... i must say that all of you have been of splendid enjoyment with your senses of humor........=) punsters and all and to the new BMW gal... glad all is okay If you want to know what group I am in... Well I just explore eddie baurer...born 1995... presince...(presince?) I liked drivin the eddie baurer bronco...What a rodeoist (again?) i turned out to be with 151,000+ miles on my 86 version...which is now being driven by my brother for over another year now...Gee now I am starting to miss it... I godda get away from that... Seems like the same note I started on.. Saddened =( Oh well ...please excuse me... WE-YRD seem to be coming out actually I think my brain is directly attached to my keyboard right now... all my thoughts are being typed... taped the 20/20 interview tonight... IMO (in my opinion) Melissa and Julie will do just fine... and so will all of their kids!!! =) I found it interesting pondering the Offcial Melissa Etheridge Mailing... and then Barbara did not do the interview...hmmmmmmmmm could it be true??? Barbara in the taxi?? As for Julie looking like rosanne.... No Way Jose!!!(Heck I'm headed fer Texas Y'awl) And for look-alike comments ... I have gotton Jodie Foster on a few occasions... (also) and one said definatly that I look like Helen Hunt... but on many many many occasions have gotton........ "You look just like Melissa Etheridge!!!" Which I have actually come to like... I have even liked it when I have become caulky with a response of... " "yah... she should be so lucky" (gots to keep em gussin) (no matter who they are) And for those of you who have kept up with my incesent babble so far...hats off to you!! you are endearing to my heart... Ciao for now! WE-YRD and how!! your fellow lister, tei! ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 1 Nov 1996 ********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sun Nov 3 00:00:55 1996 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:00:16 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 1 Nov 1996 to 2 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:09:50 EST From: Mary E Harbaugh Subject: 20/20 Hi, Ya'll! Wow, does ME have a nice house! But I guess I would too if I were a what- multimillionare?? Couldn't help but notice that Melissa got a little nervous when the interviewer asked why they wouldn't reveal how the baby was concieved ;-) I guess it all goes back to that damn taxi...... just looking for trouble ;-) mary ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:27:48 -0500 From: Tei at netcom Subject: addage to pooh image tei here...about my son's face stuck to the pillow...it was not really...i just could imagine this image....he gets his face well washed and his teeth good and brushed at bed time.... didn't want any of you thinkin i wasn't lookin out for his hygene... Maybe seeing his face stuck in his candy bucket would've been a better image... he did put it there quite a few times!!! here's to halooween!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:23:22 EST From: M Something Subject: Tampa Concert Gathering I've already posted details about the pre-concert meeting at Bennigan's. For those you who can't make it that early, at least some of us will try to be at the Will Call window from about 6:30 - 7:30. Look for the purple shirts. Hope to see you there. :) Michelle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 02:15:29 +0000 From: Dave Jackson Subject: 20/20, Melissa's parents Hi everyone! :) It was so wonderful to see an in-depth interview with both Melissa and Julie concerning their child -- and to actually *hear* the words coming from their mouths about topics we (among others) have speculated about. I was very pleased with the opportunity to be introduced to Julie and to learn her thoughts and ideas. Previously, the only time I've seen her has been in the "Nowhere To Go" video...and she doesn't talk in that one. ;) It was wonderful to see the pair interacting so naturally and lovingly. The interview with Julie's parents was an unexpected treat and it made me wonder about Melissa's own parents. Has anyone heard about a reaction as to the pregnancy? Do Melissa's parents openly support her lifestyle? Any knowledge would be appreciated. Although I love Melissa's music, I have yet to acquire the copious amounts of knowledge found on this list. Thanks a bunch! Sincerely, Lisa J. :) *Best 20/20 Moment: Watching Melissa and Julie play with their friends' child. Very precious. ************************************************** Lisa J. :) "Some cultures are defined by their relationship to cheese." -Mary Stuart Masterson "Benny & Joon" ************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 22:48:53 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: 20/20, Melissa's parents Enjoyed the segment, hated Melissa's clothes. Really Melissa you oughta know better than to wear beige and brown diamond checkered retro on tv...tsk tsk tsk (only Ellen can pull that off). And where were the bowling balls anyway? Guess Julie hasn't had time to plant em at the new house :) So it *was* Julie's ultrasound onstage...that's kind of creepy to me. On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Dave Jackson wrote: > The interview with Julie's parents was an unexpected treat and it > made me wonder about Melissa's own parents. Has anyone heard about a > reaction as to the pregnancy? Do Melissa's parents openly support > her lifestyle? Melissa's father died when she was working on the _Never Enough_ album. She has said that the songs "Dance Without Sleeping" and "The Letting Go" were inspired by him even though the songs weren't "about" him per se. Her mother, if I recall, lives in Arkansas. I also seem to remember that when Melissa told her parents she was a lesbian (I think when she was back in Leavenworth after Boston saving money to go to LA) the reaction was something like, "we knew." Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 02:05:09 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: Re: Techno CTMW Andrea Tan wrote: >Ugh, dunno if this has been discussed before but it almost made me sick. I >was listening to some dance stuff when this...this...*thing* started playing. >I was like, these lyrics sound familiar...this almost sounds like...ACK!!! >It's the dance version of CTMW!!!!! Ick! Truly scary. I was gonna jump out >of the car but it was moving. Brrrr!!!! Ick, indeed. Speaking of which, I recently heard a dance version of Berlin's "Take My Breath Away". And the ultimate travesty ... someone told me they heard a dance version of "Me and a Gun". Save us! -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) matthewb@li.net http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 07:54:01 -0500 From: Lisa Blake Subject: 20/20 Morning all! I had a problem with my vcr last night, so i am anxiously awaiting someone's report on the 20/20 show last night! So is my SO, who is upset with me for messing up the vcr ....help me out here : -) thanx, Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:04:48 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: I'm back (:-D) Hi to all the list members! Some months ago i wrote my last mail on this list. Personal problems have been solved and I'm rejoining the Net and ofcoarse this is the best part of it. I won't be lurking I promise ...... See you , Marcel (For those who are looking fo me: my former e-mail was: m.c.ummelen@refelctor.wmwm.utwente.nl hope to hear from you soon! Don't use the wmw e-mail address anymore please!) BTW: Is Kelley V. Piper still around here somewhere? Please mail me if you do Kel! _________________________ Marcel Ummelen (24) Chemical Engineer Kerkrade, The Netherlands _________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:40:42 -0500 From: Natalie DiBisceglie Subject: Re: Miami Show She came, she sang, I loved, I rocked!!!! My ears are still ringing, and I'm still singing...................:-) Show highlights....She came on around 8:20 and the house went wild...She told us she had arrived the night before and she thought her band could party but that the South Beach party people had them beat. She gave that million dollar smile and we all smiled back. I was not looking foward to going to the Convention Center for a concert, but she change my mind...The sound was great, the music better (still wished she would have played more old stuff), my seats...........if I was seeing someone I just liked....they were good...section A off to the side few rows up.............for Melissa they stunk........so I went down on the floor and slowly but surely inched my way up to the stage, song by song..... until the end of the show I was right up there on stage squished in a sea of rocking women............. looking into those famous eyes.......Fashion report....new shiny glittery silver jacket (she said she bought it two months ago and didn't know where she could wear it, until she thought of Miami), black shiny pants, black shoes (sorry couldn't tell what kind the eyesight is going :-} ), hair had bangs and kinda pouffed up, she looked rested, happy and ready to rock. 3 hours of solid Melissa................Yahoo.........When she moved to the back stage someone handed her a cell phone, she started to make a call, but all the guys talked her out of it. She kept saying to the woman I can trust you can't I but they all kept whispering in her ear something.............she finally gave up without making a call.................... Not too many purple shirts...........but I did get to meet Beth and Julie (waving) and ran into them a few times (really Beth, I knew it was you the second time :-), the women sitting next to me had MEIN tickets too, they wern't too thrilled either....met someone else, sorry in all the excitement, I can't rememer your name. To put it mildly IT WAS GREAT!!!! There is more, but I'll let someone else get a word in edgewise................. Peace, Natalie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:07:10 GMT From: Jean-Christophe Pret Subject: Re: Question about Newsweek Hi everybody, Nathalie Woot de Trixhe wrote: > I have a question about Newsweek : I tried to find it yesterday, I found the > 4 November edition but ... there was not Melissa and Julie on the cover. Is > the international edition (or european edition) of Newsweek different from > the american version? The same thing happened to me here in the UK. The edition of Newsweek I found at my newsagent's had "London rules" on the cover and, as far as I could see, no article about gay and lesbian couples inside. So, like you, I assume there's an american and an international edition, but I don't know for sure. Does anyone have more info about this? Take care JCP -- Jean-Christophe Pret ICAMS School of Chemistry University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT United Kingdom -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to the new world order Families sleepin' in their cars in the Southwest No home no job no peace no rest Bruce Springsteen The Ghost of Tom Joad ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 11:25:51 EST From: M Something Subject: Beemers Tracey Thacker wrote: >Tomorrow, however, when I pick up my new car, I can become >a member of a new group of MEListers, if anyone else wants to be a >member of the BDB - Beemer Driving Bunch. Any takers? Someday. Maybe someday. Michelle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:36:42 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: 20/20 and all that jazz... Hello... I saw 20/20 last night, as I am sure everyone else did =) Didn't Melissa and Julie look great... Of course Melissa'a outfit when she was sitting on the couch I was not crazy about, but that's why we love her... =7 I think that they are gonna be great parents... But it makes me angry when I hear people saying things about gays and lesbians being good parents and their children being "normal". I mean, of cousre they will make great parents, they are people. I just wish that people would stop judging others. Saying stuff like that is like saying , "well, one is black and one is chinese, but statistics show the kids will be normal". Come on... It hurts to hear gays and lesbians classified as this "other" race of people. God created us all as equals... I just wish that everyone would stop judging everyone else based on lifestyles, or handicapps, or color... My friend used to wear 2 different color converse sneakers when his band would play a show... I asked him once why he did this and he told me it was his way of making a statement..."Different color same sole..." Hhhmmm... Makes you think... Sorry to be babbling on and on. It's a bad habit. I guess I just get ultra defensive when it comes to issuses that I feel so stongly about. It's the Gemini in me... ;) Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:37:42 -0500 From: Kelley Piper Subject: Re: Question about Newsweek Well it seems to me tht when I was in Europe that alot of the more human interest stories in Newsweek tended to not show up the same week but at a later date....it always seemed erratic. My mother would always call and tel me about something she read in Newsweek and I would buy it every week and sometiimes it would show up in a week or 2 and sometimes it wouldn't. There definitely are 2 different versions. The international one has the prices for the different countries on the cover and the US one just assumes you live here. So, keep your eyes open. She may neven end up on the cover over here but the story probably will show up at least. *shrug* kelley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit "Kelley's Melissa Etheridge Page": http://clever.net/lounge or my homepage: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~lounge ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "So if I am not who you thought I was/ Well hello/ It's nice to meet you" ---Melissa Ferrick "Willing to Wait"--- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 14:37:04 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: Re: Skiing, shorts and coffee Michelle, keeping me on my toes wrote: >>Another amusing thing is that I can befriend a person that has never >>even thought of a pun before, then after knowing me for awhile they all >>of a sudden start punning away. > It really is contagious. It's like peanuts; you just can't stop after > just one. This reminds me, did you know that Mr. Peanuts is now just a shell of his former self? If we keep this up Michelle, everyone is going to think we're nuts. I just thought of an old joke.... Two peanuts were walking in the park. One was a salted. Hey, I gotta million of em! > Take it on the road, huh? Well, there's always the danger of "driving" > people away. Then again, I don't think you would "steer" me wrong, and > I'd never "tire" of punning with you. My mind is "racing" with the > possibilities of "Pun Tour '97." I guess our meeting on this list was > no "accident." :) I wonder if we "auto" stop with this punning. We might be "treading" on thin ice. It's "wheely" fun though. The Lone Wrangler, aka Roxy, Patty, Head Butt Extraordinaire wrote: > Trace, I'm really glad to hear you'r OK and that your Jeep kept you > safe, but sad to know that I've lost a fellow JOBber. My heart fell through the floor when I read your post, but I'm glad that you're ok. > What with Shirl turning to > the Honda crowd and you going for a "MLE special", BMW, that is, I > guess I should change my name from Roxy to "The Lone Wrangler". > > Hi, Ho J.R. ................... away .................... Gee, I never had the chance to thank her . And with a cloud of dust......da da da da da da da da da..... I think you all know the rest of the words. I really must go. I have lasagna to prepare. Take care all and enjoy the remainder of your weekend. Kare ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:44:48 GMT From: Elaine Naiman Subject: free at last I managed to break the chains that were keeping me tied to Jan's computer and am home now (for those of you who care about such things). For some actual semi-MEC content, Kenny Aranoff was one of the contributing musicians to the film "That Thing You Do". Elaine p.s. Hi Randy! -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:41:39 -0800 From: Cindy Hoeflak Subject: Linda Perry Hi there!! I just have to comment about the Linda Perry saga. Even though she's not all that popular in New Zealand, despite her recent promo tour (but then, neither is Melissa unfortunately), I did manage to read an interesting article regarding the controversial (?) Ms Perry, which also concerned the lovely Melissa. Obviously I don't remember the exact wording, however, I remember something along these lines - Linda doesn't fully approve of Melissa, as Melissa made sure she had a stable music career before she came out to the public. Linda feels that Melissa was more interested in making the big bucks rather than being passionate about her music and feelings. I also remember something about that Linda made sure everyone knew she's a lesbian, as she had the word "Dyke" written in big letters on her guitar. Please don't quote on any of the above, but it was from a New Zealand magazine anyway, so I don't think there will be too many corrections. I only know one of Linda's songs, and that's "Fill me up", which I have to admit, I loved the first time I heard it (especially when I bought the cassingle for only 95cents :D ) I don't feel I have the right to judge her, and I don't know if I believe all the previous comments about her. She might be a bit more outspoken compared to other artists, but that's not exactly a crime. Anyway, this may be a stupid question, but I read all that stuff about Amanda Marshall being compared to the lovely Melissa. (If I recall correctly). I assume the comparison was made by the type of music only, or is Amanda lesbian as well? Forgive me if the answer is obvious, but I had to ask. I saw the new Sheryl Crow video "if it makes you happy" or something along those lines, but I prefer her in shirt in jeans and a bit more meat on her :D I'm leaving for the US and Holland in 18 days time (woohah!!!), so could someone please let me know if I unsubscribe from the list for 7 weeks, or is there another way. Enjoy your day! Cindy ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 1 Nov 1996 to 2 Nov 1996 ************************************************ From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Mon Nov 4 00:00:46 1996 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:00:03 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 2 Nov 1996 to 3 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 01:40:38 -0600 From: Tracey Thacker Subject: Thanks, BMWs, 20/20, Burgh Visits, Linda Perry, PAB, etc. Greetings MEListers. . . Just wanted to come out of my tech week haze (any other theater people out there?) to thank everyone who offered their well wishes concerning my recent accident and loss of Jeep. I appreciate your kind thoughts. As to those who were wondering about the beemer, its a 5 something (I'm terrible with number names, I wish it had a word, like the "BMW Gorgeous" or "Magnificent") and it is navy blue with gold pinstripes (in memory of the Jeep). I picked it up on Friday and I've already put 220 miles on it. Ooops. <><><><><> I was quite pleased with the 20/20 segment, though I don't think there was any info in it that we didn't already know. :-) Ah- the one thing, the confirmation that it was indeed Julie's sonogram that was displayed on the concert backdrop. Eek - I'm sorry, that's just a little bit creepy. Was it just me, or did they seem to purposefully step around the fact (is it a fact?) that the baby will be called Austin? Quite an adorable baby that their friends had - I love watching currently childless people playing with other people's kids. Hate to tell them that its rarely like that with their own. :-) <><><><><> Beth & Gwen (and Jen), I'm looking forward to the next time either of you visit the 'burgh. You are more than welcome to hang in my "beautiful" (you've never seen the playroom!) house and we'll definitiely do all those lovely touristy things like riding the incline. Oh, and Elaine, I'm glad you finally got free and made it back to the northlands. And just in time for the cold weather, right? :-) <><><><><> As for Linda Perry, I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that not only does she have a horrible attitude, she's got a rotten voice. I think she sounds like her daily routine is to smoke three packs of unfiltered Luckys and gargle with battery acid. Ick. <><><><><> Francie and all of those Eastern Pennsylvania lister types, since there is no Pittsburgh Area Bunch, I think it is safe to concede the PAB moniker to the Philly listers. Perhaps one day I won't be all alone out here in losing-hockey-team-land, but for now, the acronym is all yours. Enjoy! <><><><><> Well that's about it. A big hi to those two special and especially nutty listers who enjoyed Melissa in Tampa tonight - you know who you are. Happy to be alive but woefully in need of a bed, Tracey Tracey Thacker <>==<>==<>thack22@usaor.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The only people who would suggest that a person's character is no longer important are those who are sorely lacking. . . in character. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 10:08:21 -0500 From: Helen Wilson Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 1 Nov 1996 to 2 Nov 1996 Hi Fans, I saw the 20/20 show Friday night, it was great seeing Julie up close and to see Julie and ME together holding hands, they looked so happy together. I was glad that Julie's Mom and Dad are accepting and are excited about their soon to be grandchild. I guess it's going to be a girl, did I pick that up right?. Well, I guess I will go back to lurking. Peace. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 11:34:16 -0500 From: Karrie Bowen Subject: 20/20....Help! Hey everyone! I have been so busy with school that I haven't had time to go through my digests, and now I realize that MLE was on 20/20 the other night! Did anyone tape it? Can I get a copy from someone? Please?!?!?!? Email me privately and let me know if you can help me out! I so appreciate it! Thanks! Karrie k645501b@edinboro.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:46:52 -0500 From: Cynthia Donohue Subject: MEC: ETHERIDGE BREAKS ICE AT PALACE ETHERIDGE BREAKS ICE AT PALACE It was a pricey ticket, but an impassioned Melissa Etheridge labored to make the Ice Palace s first concert worth it. By Logan Neill, Times Staff Writer St. Petersburg Times, St. Petersburg, Florida November 3, 1996 Perhaps nothing tests an artist s market credibility more than being the guinea pig for a new concert venue. The responsibility for breaking in the Ice Palace fell to Melissa Etheridge on Saturday night. Just how well Etheridge s inauguration party fared depended on how the 7,300 fans valued their hard-earned wages. All seats were priced at $40.75 easily a third more than what top acts such as Hootie and the Blowfish and Alanis Morissette pried from Tampa Bay area fans wallets this year and pre-concert scuttle reflected that disappointment. Yet, for her part, Etheridge delivered a spectacular show: nearly three hours of intense labor that covered her entire Your Little Secret album and much of her previous Yes I Am, all performed flawlessly and with an energy and strength that held her fans captive from beginning to end. Launching her show with I Really Like You, Etheridge commanded the stage, pumping every ounce of juice from the song, then segueing into the steamy If I Wanted To. Etheridge seemed to be charged up by the fact she was the first artist to perform in the venue, home of hockey s Tampa Bay Lightening. "This is really cool," she said as her fans lifted lighters into the dark after a song. "That s the first official rock concert thing to be done here." Much of her performance developed thematically, pairing songs into concise packages or playing off other themes. For example, Unusual Kiss was hooked up with Come To My Window. In a short set performed on a small stage at the opposite end of the arena, Etheridge and her disciplined trio slammed out All American Girl with driving abandon, setting up a medley of older tunes including Ain t It Heavy, Let Me Go and All the Way to Heaven. Throughout the night, her band gave extra measure, Guitarist John Shanks was inventive and tasteful, bassist Mark Brown was impeccable and new drummer Kenny Aronoff bound the whole thing together with extraordinary verve. Etheridge s performance also provided a crucial test of the new arena s viability as a concert venue. Although the high-volume sound ranked high, there were some thin spots, but not many. And overall, the venue provides superior sight lines in just about every seat. In the end, however, the real test scores were handed out, and if Ice Palace officials were watching the smiling faces, they knew they had earned an A. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:26:31 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: visiting Aaron Hi, this is Elaine. I'm visiting Aaron in Knoxville, TN. He's a lot of fun! Well, better go now -- we're off to see the sights, and, of course, find chocolate. Elaine "The night is my companion and solitude my guide." --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:36:26 EST From: SueL <103131.341@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Bowling Balls Hi again, edgy wrote: >And where were the bowling balls anyway? >Guess Julie hasn't had time to plant em at the new >house :) If you taped it edgy, look again. There is a scene of them outside playing with the dogs (near the end of the segment) where part of the bowling ball garden is visible for a brief moment! Enjoy! Take care all, Sue (Ellyn) BTW edgy...eye contact is MUY IMPORTANTE! Hope to see you on IRC again soon for some more 'Lessons ala MsMico' :-) Specially since you now know how cute she is ;-) EYE CONTACT ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:36:29 EST From: SueL <103131.341@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: COG (not what you think Mico) Howdy all... The technical side of me is coming out to make this post! Tei wrote: >(for those of you whom like trivia... New Boston,NH is the >center of gravity for the entire world) Center Of Gravity refers to the point of a body through which the weight, or rather, gravitational Force acts. (F=ma where m=mass and a=acceleration due to gravity for you non-engineers out there) This point is the same as the center of volume (or physical center) provided the body has a uniform density throughout! Now, to my point: In a sphere of uniform density, the COG is in the center of the sphere. I realize that the Earth is not uniform density, but there is no way (that I can think of at least) that the COG is remotely near the surface. It is located somewhere deep within the Earth. OK, technical speak mode set to 'OFF'. Tei, are you sure it is the Center Of Gravity to which they are referring? Take care all, Sue (Ellyn) IRC'ya later ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:00:01 -0800 From: Randy Subject: 2 ME tickets, Chapel Hill, Dean Dome Rose and I have 4 MEIN tickets between us for Melissa's concert a week from tomorrow, in Chapel Hill. We will be picking them up at the Will Call office and are offering the other set to any one on this list, at face value, that is considering going to the concert. Otherwise we will try to sell them at the venue. Any takers? NC, here we come! -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:23:46 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: 20/20 Kiva asked: >> Melissa and Julie look great... Of course Melissa'a outfit when she >> was sitting on the couch I was not crazy about, but that's why we >> love her. Personally, I like her for her music. >> lesbians being good parents and their children being "normal". I >> mean, of cousre they will make great parents, they are people. Not all people make great parents. They will make great parents if they have the "great parents" qualities. They won't make/not make great parents because they're gay. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:18:05 -0400 From: KELLY CONROY Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 1 Nov 1996 to 2 Nov 1996 To All, I somehow missed the 20/20 segment! I am in shock right now. If anyone is willing to send me a copy, I will pay whatever they want for it plus postage (within reason) PPPLLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEE!!!!!! SOMEONE TAKE UP MY OFFER!!!!! I'M BEGGING!! Kelly :-( ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:15:57 -0500 From: Michele Lamphier Subject: MLETHER Digest - 30 Oct 1996 to 31 Oct 1996 -Reply When will Melissa's Storytellers be on VH1? Thanks for any help you can give. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:36:36 EST From: "Vanessa A. Brown" Subject: Re: My Melissa Story... --- Kiva wrote: Okay, you guys asked for my Melissa experience, so here it is. --- end of quoted material --- Kiva, what a touching account of your experience meeting Melissa. Thanks for sharing with us! That's something to keep precious!! Take care, Vanessa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:42:47 EST From: "Vanessa A. Brown" Subject: Re: singles list --- Gwen wrote: Just out of curiosity, how's the singles list concept working out? I think someone (Vanessa?) mentioned awhile back that about 30 people had expressed an interest in the list. Gwen --- end of quoted material --- I think we're about 33 strong, with at least a dozen quite active. We had a big mailing that included "bio's"...almost like personal's, but with a gentler, more tactful twist. Now we are getting into the discussion portion covering topics from coming out stories, to how to meet people, etc.... It has been a little quiet at times, but extremely thought provoking topics have kept it alive. E-mail me privately if interested. Vanessa (from the Granite State, NH) : ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:22:13 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: Storytellers On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Michele Lamphier wrote: > When will Melissa's Storytellers be on VH1? Thanks for any help you November 9 at 10 pm. And several hundred airings thereafter, I'd imagine. Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:45:43 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: NMEC: DC Gathering Pics Hello Listers, I'm sorry to report that I must alter 2 pictures from the DC gathering that I put on my Web site. I did not intend to offend anyone by posting them so if anyone else appearing in the pictures is unhappy please e-mail me privately and I'll remove your picture as well. I'm sorry Gwen, I was just trying to do a nice thing for all of you taking part in the gathering! The pictures will be edited just as soon as I can(early this week)so if the offended individual would please refrain from e-mailing privately I would appreciate it. Didn't mean for this to be a downer. Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:58:37 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: NMEC: Philly Pub Crawl (fwd) On a lighter note, seeing as my previous post was a bit of a downer...the Philly Pub crawl is growing and for anyone close to the metropolis of Kutztown you are welcome over for Saturday Morning at my place for a Shirley "Big Breakfast" or just join us(Beth, Sue D and me) for a sleep over at my place Friday evening. Hey John Juan, any chance I can get your French Toast recipe??? Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:02:43 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: kicking ass, bowling balls, and dance remixes edgy asked: >And where were the bowling balls anyway? Guess Julie hasn't had time >to plant em at the new house :) i could have sworn that i caught a glimpse of several bowling balls during one of the outdoor scenes (it was pretty quick) - it could have been the one with angel and...geez, what's their other dog's name? >So it *was* Julie's ultrasound onstage...that's kind of creepy to >me. agreed. icky. i can't remember , but did they say why MLE was using julie's ultrasound in the show? ============================== Redsocks said: >And the ultimate travesty ... someone told me they heard a dance >version of "Me and a Gun". > >Save us! oh, yuck! *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:32:33 +1000 From: Margo Hellyer Subject: TWIM lyrics, MMM does Amanda Marshall Toni Robinson asked about Joan Armatrading's The Weakness In Me: >BTW, does it sound to anybody >else like ME's version goes: 'Are you so strong, or is all the weakness in >me?', instead of 'Are you so strong, resolve the weakness in me' Dunno, but >I think I'm singing along all wrong Perhaps. Reading from the printed lyrics from The Very Best Of Joan Armatrading: "Are you so strong Or is all the weakness in me" Cant confirm that it is the same on Walk Under Ladders as I dont have it at work, but having just listened to Joan's recording I am pretty sure she sings 'Or is all' rather than 'resolve'. So does Melissa. BTW, I would recommend the Very Best of Joan compilation as a great introduction to her work. ----------- The MMM (or a few of us) ventured out on Saturday to see Amanda Marshall play at a pub gig. The MMM is the Melbourne, Australia version of the BAB, FAB, etc. There are some pros and cons to pub gigs .. ready access to appropriate refreshment and being able to get close to the performance in a small venue. The cons are having to stand up, tall people, drunks who wont shut up, and sometimes cruddy sound. Having been alerted to Amanda Marshall by the recent reviews on this list, we decided to see what the scam was. Hmmm ... big voice. What else, um ... watery Coronas, standing 15 feet from the stage, lots of tall drunk people who insisted on standing in front of Lisa-Lou (who is small in stature but with a glare that packs a punch), big voice, really annoying finger shaking waving habit like Joe Cocker, great singing when she did this solo scat jazz gospel thing with the drummer. Amanda Marshall was pretty good, although you could categorise her as a bit of a belter. But her songs were nothing remarkable, and for me it is always the individuality of the songwriting which makes an artist really interesting. However she is worth checking out, imho. So also was her support act, local artist Monique Brumby. And it is great to be able to see good quality artists in really small venues .. even if you do have to stand. Margo ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:43:05 -0500 From: Laura Ward Subject: Atlanta tix available I have my confirmation for two preferred (MEIN) tix for the 11/13 Atlanta concert, but find I will be in San Francisco and Seattle that evening and won't make the concert (darn!). Anybody want to buy them for face value, email me. I have to have enough lead time to let MEIN know so you can get your tix at the box office. Deadline for offers 11/6 (Wednesday). LWard@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:29:08 EST From: Mary E Harbaugh Subject: Julie's Ultrasound Wanted to put in my $.02 about Julie's ultrasound being on-stage. IMHO, I think it's pretty neat. I'm proud that Julie and Melissa are proud lesbians and proud mothers-to-be. I look at the ultrasound, and I think, "Wow, here's *life*... creation of living things instead of the destruction... showing a positive creative force instead of the destructive forces we see all around us everyday." Take a gander at MTV and/or VH1. Count how many times a video shows a murder, or insinuates a rape, or otherwise denotes some sort of destruction of life. Compare that to how many times you see the beginnings of life. It's refreshing to me to see Melissa and Julie showing off their progeny. I personally enjoy seeing the ultrasounds of my friends. It's nice to be able to share in their joy. Again, IMHO, if Julie & Melissa want to show off their child to 5 million of their closest friends, I support them. :-) Have a nice day! :-) mary ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 2 Nov 1996 to 3 Nov 1996 ************************************************ From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Mon Nov 4 18:19:16 1996 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:18:35 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 3 Nov 1996 to 4 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:13:07 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: Julie's Ultrasound On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Mary E Harbaugh wrote: > I personally enjoy seeing the ultrasounds of my friends. It's nice to be > able to share in their joy. Again, IMHO, if Julie & Melissa want to show > off their child to 5 million of their closest friends, I support them. > :-) I also think, of course, that they should do whatever they want and the point Mary made about seeing "good things" (yes, I love Martha Stewart) instead of violence and destruction all the time is great. I guess what I find creepy or odd about it is in relation to what Melissa said on the 20/20 segment: when questioned about the father, Melissa said she thought the baby should know the father first before the world does. In that respect, it seemed kind of weird to display ultrasound pictures to "the whole world." But I'm paranoid about my own privacy and I think perhaps that's what weirded me out. I'm babbling... Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:01:09 -0500 From: Michelle Partin Subject: if I beg can I get one??? Hi everybody!! I hope this post finds you in good cheer!! I'm laughing though all the sh*t thats been going on in my life lately. Ok, since you asked. I was on my way to go car shopping (my 93 Honda Civic EX was stolen about a month ago) when my father called and informed me that the bank had sent me an overdraft notice for 3 checks. I never write checks on the acct so off I went to the bank. It turns out that my friendly car thief has been forging bad checks totalling over 1000 dollars!!!! luckily, I'm not going to be liable due to the fact that I reported having my wallet, keys and my car stleon from my workplace breakroom. To make matters worse they found my car (after I was paid off, thank you) and inside are pieces off clothing, mail, junk etc... and the police say "if we have time we'll investigate" NICE,HUH!!!! oh well, not much I can do I guess. Well, after that little (blabber) sad story, could I please get one of the famous shirts I've been hearing so much about? I'm going to the concert and gathering here in Portland and I want to be part of the "group". thanks, Michelle Partin (a former and soon to be again Honda owner!!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:22:54 GMT From: Elaine Naiman Subject: chains/Linda Perry/Joan Armatrading Tracey wrote: >> Oh, and Elaine, I'm glad you finally got free and made it back to >> the northlands. Apparently I yanked a little too hard on the chains and killed Jan's computer. But it's almost better now. Except that she can't connect to her ISP so can't send messages to the list. >> And just in time for the cold weather, right? :-) Yup. Though it was cool on the day I left VA also. >> As for Linda Perry, I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that not >> only does she have a horrible attitude, she's got a rotten voice. I doubt you're the only one but I like her voice. Rhondda wrote: >> just because linda said something about your idol? puhleeze! >> guess what? i'm sure that this won't be the last time that someone >> disses MLE. Probably not. And guess what? Some people will still get upset about it. That well under 1% of the world's population knows or cares who ME (or any artist for that matter) is, some fans will always get upset because people don't know/like their favourite artist. >> if someone says something negative about an artist you like, can't >> you just ignore it? it's really easy and takes such little effort. Yeah, but then the person wouldn't be a real fan. Margo wrote: >> Reading from the printed lyrics from The Very Best Of Joan >> Armatrading: >> "Are you so strong >> Or is all the weakness in me" >> Cant confirm that it is the same on Walk Under Ladders It is (I'm a real Joan fan, I should know. ) But how can the lyrics change from a studio album to a gh album unless the song is rerecorded for the gh album? Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:01:30 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: that sonogram thang Mary E Harbaugh said: >I'm proud that Julie and Melissa are proud lesbians and proud >mothers-to-be. me, too. i fully support them. however... >I look at the ultrasound, and I think, "Wow, here's *life*... >creation of living things instead of the destruction... showing a >positive creative force instead of the destructive forces we see all >around us everyday." > >Take a gander at MTV and/or VH1. Count how many times a video shows >a murder, or insinuates a rape, or otherwise denotes some sort of >destruction of life. Compare that to how many times you see the >beginnings of life. It's refreshing to me to see Melissa and Julie >showing off their progeny. i still haven't seen the YLS tour yet (soon, soon), so maybe i'm speaking out of turn here, but after reading mitch's descriptions of the pictures (including the sonogram) and symbols in the backdrop, i'm left scratching my head and saying, "huh?" it appears from what i've read on the list that MLE just threw a bunch of provocative stuff up on the backdrops, without any real thought as to what she is trying to convey. at almost all of the concerts (of other artists) i've been to, the stage props generally make sense in conjunction with a central theme or a song. in this vein, having julie's sonogram flashed up on the backdrop just seems exploitive to me, IMHO. don't get me wrong, i'm happy for her and julie - but what does it really have to do with her show? *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:52:50 +0800 From: Mardi Subject: Home Page Maniac/Sistablue(NMEC) Okay..Okay..so I am going crazy here..they let me out, day pass...but .... We...the members of Sistablue have finally decided on our new name...but...again... you are going to have to go to http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7848/ to find it...this is the official new name site..and will be up dated , by me, every week with information about shows (here and the States), Record Company things and photo..infact, I am going to get the ones from San Jose & the Sister Spirit show scanned so that we can put them up there too...woahwoah... So please go have a lookey see..because this page was lovingly created with my own hands.. Hey...and we got a 'special invite' to the Amanda Marshall in house gig here tomorrow night...haven't heard good reviews about her performance yet..people have been saying she has some 'unusual' and hard to watch body movements....such Australian comments!! Thanks guys....and Elaine. (Couldn't resist....)(Ducking) Mardi (-------Sistablue Web Page------ http://emedia.com.au/wamusic/sistablue -------------) (-------The New Name Web Page---which will soon be linked to the other-------------) ------ (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7848/ --------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:18:21 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Real fan Elaine quoted this: >> if someone says something negative about an artist you like, can't >> you just ignore it? it's really easy and takes such little effort. And wrote this: >Yeah, but then the person wouldn't be a real fan. I disagree...A real fan will see all the good and the bad points of an artist. If we don't voice those opinions, how is the artist going to get any feedback? and act on it if he/she cares too? JMHO. -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:25:10 -0500 From: Angela R Howard Subject: Re: 20/20....Help! Excerpts from mail: 3-Nov-96 20/20....Help! by Karrie Bowen@EDINBORO.ED >Did anyone tape it? Can I get a copy from someone? Please?!?!?!? > >Email me privately and let me know if you can help me out! I so appreciate it >! Me too please!! I forgot to change the time on my vcr and I missed it as well. Any help?? -Angela <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angela R. Howard E-mail: twomoon+@andrew.cmu.edu Supervisor, Materials Receipt Phone: (412) 268-7124 University Libraries Fax: (412) 268-6944 Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh PA 15213 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:12:55 -0500 Subject: This & That (2nd try) From: Cathi Deyo Due to difficulties with my mail program this message went to the wrong address (sorry again Dave & Glenna). I'm not sure if it ever actually got to the list, so here's my second go at it...please bear with me. >i...for about two years I've mostly lurked on this list. I'll blame that on 'direct internet provider envy'. But now I am no longer stygmatized by a prominent '@aol.com' after my name. I even have a local access number, so I can blankely stare at the computer screen for hours with out pocket book remorse. So I'll take a stab at introducing myself and will hopefully participate more actively in the future. My name is Cathi (obviously), I'm 33 and have been told I'm insane because I choose to take care of other people's children (20 of them), instead of getting a 'real job' with my 6 years in college (which I'm still paying for). I am from western, lower Michigan (closer to Indiana than Canada). Anyone out there from this side of the mitten? Or even THAT side ;-) I have enjoyed Melissa's music since her first album, but I didn't get addicted until I saw my first ME concert. I could go on and on about why I think ME's music is powerful and relevant, but I'll spare you. D! id I just hear a loud sigh of relief?....Now that you have the bio, I just want to add my .02 to a couple of topics...well, mabey .05 with interest... > >*MEMPHIS* >After seeing ME at the only 2 shows in Michigan, I am feeling very desperate to go to the Memphis show. But I have about 18 hours to decide about whether or not to take a deal from the travel agent. I'm not sure that $200 for plane fare, plus ticket costs, is rational. Are there any western Michigan or Indiana listers interested in a road trip?...I'm serious. > >*MEIN TIX* >My experience has been that MEIN tix are usually pretty good if the venue is smaller. The bigger venues seem to hold out a lot of the premium seats for marketing reasons, VIP's etc. The only times I've been unhappy were at Deer Creek and The World Music Theatre. I usually get within the first six rows at smaller venues -- twice I've had second row center. So, the extra $$ has been worth it for me. Especially since I wouldn't know how to find a ticket broker if I had to. BTW, anyone know the size of the Memphis venue? > >Well, that's my view of the world, anyhow--as if you asked! Thanks for listening. > >Be Well, >Cat Children should be seen...and heard....and believed!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:43:22 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Weakness in Me, Theresa's Tattoo On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Jennifer Sutton wrote: > Hey y'all. Do anybody know what CD I can get the song "the Weakness in Me"? > I had the Ain't Nothin'but a She Thing which had the song on it, but one of > my friends scratched it and now Melissa speaks Japanese in the song :) I > absolutly love this song and want to get it again. SO...PLEASE HELP ME!!!! It's still available -- I'll pick one up for you if you can't find it. There's no reason that someone should float you a pirated copy just because you didn't take care of the one you had. Also, just got a new catalog from Wolfe Video, and Theresa's Tattoo has had a price reduction to $29.95. Visit them at http://www.wolfevideo.com, or call 1-800-GET-WOLFE. -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:39:41 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: =( Oops... I want to apologize if anyone mistook my comments about Melissa and Julie on 20/20... I commented about Melissa's outfit. I was kidding around, as I read some listers did about Melissa's fashion sense. I wouldn't care what the woman wore or wears. I love her for her music, her spirit and her sense of life. Her music touches a place in my heart... In many people's hearts... And about my comments about parenting and gays and lesbians. Sometimes I have trouble putting my thoughts into words. Not everyone does make good parents, that is true. But it saddens me that society points fingers at a lot of people that would make wonderful parents, regardless of their sexual preference. But we see so many times men and women who are not fit parents gifted with children. Maybe I did not choose the correct words this time around, either. I am sorry if I offended anyone this time or last time. I only wish for tolerance for all people of all race sex and age. Maybe someday... Maybe soon... =) Thanks for listening, again... Kiva ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:12:07 -0500 From: Tei at netcom Subject: COG reply > Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:36:29 EST > From: SueL <103131.341@COMPUSERVE.COM> > Subject: COG (not what you think Mico) > > Howdy all... > The technical side of me is coming out to make this post! > Tei wrote: > >(for those of you whom like trivia... New Boston,NH is the > >center of gravity for the entire world) > Center Of Gravity refers to the point of a body through which the weight, or > rather, gravitational Force acts. (F=ma where m=mass and a=acceleration due to > gravity for you non-engineers out there) This point is the same as the center > of volume (or physical center) provided the body has a uniform density > throughout! Now, to my point: > In a sphere of uniform density, the COG is in the center of the sphere. I > realize that the Earth is not uniform density, but there is no way (that I can > think of at least) that the COG is remotely near the surface. It is located > somewhere deep within the Earth. OK, technical speak mode set to 'OFF'. Tei, > are you sure it is the Center Of Gravity to which they are referring? > > Take care all, > Sue (Ellyn) > IRC'ya later ok ellyn...nice to see you here.... I know I did not pull any technical out of me when I posted this...but I thought all would get my gist.... The strongest gravitational pull for this entire earth is located in NewBoston NH If you ever saw the layout of the land there you would see how this could be true... It is a most beautiful town... and I miss it much! Luckily it is only the next town over from me now, and I have verry close friends who live there so I am in NewBoston often! I know I read this fact in an encyclopedia once upon a time... and when I find the fact written anywhere I will gladly post it for your and all consideration... Still Lookin forward to Texas!!! Yee Yippin Hawwww!! just a note here..... MEIN will have us at a Party at the 'Ridge' in Dallas immediatly following the show on the 16th weather or not Melissa herself will be there remains to be seen... I do know that Melissa has the following night off so maybe she will be up to some partying with us that night! Here's Hoping take care y'all tei! and for those of you who have asked... tei is pronounced simply (T) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:18:47 -0300 From: Jennifer Sutton Subject: To everybody. "Some people come into our lives, leave footprints on our hearts, and we are never the same." Unknown Peace and Love. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:04:13 +0100 From: Michael Roeper Subject: Visiting Toronto Hi from Germany, there will be not very much MLE content in my message, but it wiil be short anyway. I am going on a business trip to Toronto in the next week. I would like to know, if there are any places, clubs etc. which should be visited in any case. Maybe someone can point me to some good music stores, where MLE bootlegs are available. I am also interested in meeting some listmembers, although my schedule is not fixed and I recently have no idea how much free time I have available. To make it short, please e-mail me privateley to: roeper@informatik.uni-bremen.de See you, Michael -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Roeper Tel.: 0421/218-2112 Uni Bremen / AG KI 0421/218-7090 (Sekr.) MZH 5110 Fax : 0421/218-7196 Bibliothekstr. 28359 Bremen Email: roeper@informatik.uni-bremen.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:39:19 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: 20/20, Melissa's parents On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Dave Jackson wrote: > The interview with Julie's parents was an unexpected treat and it > made me wonder about Melissa's own parents. Has anyone heard about a > reaction as to the pregnancy? Do Melissa's parents openly support > her lifestyle? Grudgingly, from what MLE's said in interviews. Basically the same as most families, I'd guess (Tori and I represent the ends of the spectrum -- hers are totally accepting and mine want nothing to do with me). Even Julie's parents seem a little uncomfortable with it... I noticed that her mom said that they "never knew anyone... in that situation" -- studiously avoiding (consciously or unconsciously) the words "gay" or lesbian." -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:27:39 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Amanda Marshall -- SMEC (final) On 19 Oct 1996, I asked the MEList what you thought of comparing Amanda Marshall to Melissa Etheridge. I was pleased by the thoughtful and intelligent responses that you people posted, and (surprise!) I learned something about music, and myself. Thank you all! You Listers reminded me that music is a multi-dimensional medium: there are different facets to music and musicians. We the listeners are also complex in what we hear, and we are just as complex in how it affects each of us. After reading your responses, I listened again (this time using my cognitive skills). I listened to my Amanda CD -- to me, she feels like a rocket taking off, and I like her. I borrowed a Sheryl Crow CD, and enjoyed her superior singing. This week I attended a Neil Young concert (in Hamilton, Canada) -- he's great, too. And then (why oh why does this happen) I put on Melissa again. Totally blows me away. The rhythm runs up and down my spine, and I start sweating. My body is gripped by the emotional content. Her lyrics energize my psyche, and my wife thinks I'm nuts. Sigh! It's tough, being a fan. -- Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:27:46 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Yeeehaaw!!! I am another of the MEListers on the Texas 3-concert MEIN tour: Nov 15 - Austin - to see the Melissa concert on Friday Nov 16 - Dallas - to see the Melissa concert on Saturday Nov 18 - Houston - to see the Melissa concert on Monday which is just enough Melissa for one week. I've never been to the southern States before; an extra reason to be excited about this trip. Do you guys really say "Yeeehaaw!!!"? :) See you there, eh! -- Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:03:35 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: JUST CURIOUS Hi everybody. I am new to the list, so please bear with me if I'm asking some things that have already been discussed. First, can anybody give me their spin on what An Unusual Kiss is about? I have yet to hear anyone think that it's about what I think it's about.....two of them "together" while one of them watches. Second, is anybody else curious as to what Melissa's view on abortion is now that she's "been there since the child's conception"? Or maybe somebody knows. Thanks Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:32:33 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: Pittsburgh, Philly Pub Crawl Tracey invited: >>Beth & Gwen (and Jen), I'm looking forward to the next time either of you >>visit the 'burgh. You are more than welcome to hang in my "beautiful" >>(you've never seen the playroom!) house and we'll definitiely do all those >>lovely touristy things like riding the incline Yeah !!! I've already done the "incline" thing - or was that the "recline" thing? Anyway, how bout' making me breakfast or lunch and serving me in that cute little room with the view? >>------------------------------ Shirl wrote: >>the Philly Pub crawl is growing and for anyone close to the metropolis of >>Kutztown you are welcome over for Saturday Morning at my place for a >>Shirley "Big Breakfast" I see a food fight a' brewing !!!!!!! Shirl again: >>or just join us(Beth, Sue D and me) for a sleep over at my place Friday evening. just call it - Camp Hoffman ... Seriously, I am really looking forward to meeting other MElisters - that includes you PA lurkers - I *know* you're out there. Unfortunately, I am sick (where's that nurse?) right now - but I hope that I will be feeling better by Friday. I don't know how I got sick - except that Shirl may have transmitted her germs to me via telephone lines - I don't know. I owe some people email - I haven't forgotten you (!) - just not feeling up to snuff right now. Beth (the Honda driving chick magnet is under the weather) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:46:27 -0600 From: "Cindy S. Hughey" Subject: 20/20 Just have to admit that the line in the interview, "Yes they know that the child may be straight and the accept that.", really irked me. Would anyone have ever said this about a hetrosexual cople, i.e. "they know the child might be gay and they accept that????". Over all I liked the interview; Melissa and Julie wer great. I've never really looked at Julie before but she's really attractive, and Melissa'a always looked great. However, I couldn't keep from laughing every time the reporters tried to say something meaningful. I mean comments like, "She's a high paid rock musician, a lesbian, and soon to be mom." Ok all true, but it was hillarious. Did anyone else find these lines funny? or am I just really strange. SHAKAY Cindy S. Hughey University of Alabama Huntsville Hugheyc@email.uah.edu {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} You've waited so long and I've waited long enough.....a.m. talk is cheap and baby time's expensive...MC^2 {}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:43:06 -0500 From: Elizabeth Mcdavid Elkins Subject: Re: JUST CURIOUS Greetings one and all, I just finished interviewing Melissa _ I tried to ask her all the questions you guys sent me but our time was limited and i had an agenda for the paper - but I did ask the infamous "Unuusual Kiss" question. Nonetheless, she laughed and said "See what happens when you won't explain, people just get obsessed over things." She would not comment on the story behind the song. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 14:36:32 -0800 From: Liz Spector Subject: Re: Austin Concert Hey guys, some friends and I are going down to Austin for the Nov. 15 concert and I was wondering where everyone was going to party afterwards!? I haven't been on-line in months, really, almost since the big Fajita Fest last summer. I've lost everyone's addresses, if Liz Burns is still around these parts maybe you'll write me back and let me know! If I don't hear from anyone I guess I'll just wear the Big Purple Shirt and hope somebody sees me! Liz Spector By the way, it's me, "Liz the Other", Spector. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:21:03 -0500 From: Kelley Piper Subject: Teresa's Tattoo I was just flipping through a catalog for Lambda Rising (DC Area Gay and Lesbian book store) and they have it listed for $19.95, so I think this must be the new price (I know people were wondering if this price would be for a pirated version or not, but LR is a very respectable joint as far as I know). Anyway you can contact them via phone: 1-800-621-6969 or via email: lambdarising@his.com. hope that helps and I hope I just didn't miss this info already ;) kelley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit "Kelley's Melissa Etheridge Page": http://clever.net/lounge or my homepage: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~lounge ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "So if I am not who you thought I was/ Well hello/ It's nice to meet you" ---Melissa Ferrick "Willing to Wait"--- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:53:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: The Winner is ...... Hello friends, I received 18 postcards for the guitar-string from Melissa( and I still swear to god that it was on Miss Etheridge`s guitar and that she played it) I wanted to give away. 9 from the US, two from Canada, one from Australia, two from Holland, two from Germany, one from Austria and one from Argentinia. I would have loved to be able to give to everyone who wrote me, one ME-string, but sorry I don`t have that many. So I had to draw one lucky winner. The winner is ............................................KIVA KAMERLING (hope I read that right) Bravncracy@aol.com THANKS FOR ALL THESE NICE POSTCARDS. I hope to be able to do something like this again. Bye and greetings from Germany Tim Dunker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:59:17 +0000 From: September Gurl Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 2 Nov 1996 to 3 Nov 1996 Hi! I just got on this list yesterday, so it's nice to meet you all! :-) I saw Melissa in concert at a small gig in London back in January - it was easily the best night of my life! I almost cried when she performed Silent Legacy - that song is very special to me. She is SUCH a great live artist! She smiled at me twice, and I totally melted!!! I was right at the front all night, which was brilliant , and she was singing lines from 'I Really Want You' while looking right at some of us in the front, and she looked right at me!!!! Her interaction with the crowd, makes her shows really special, and she is an amazing performer! Her music means alot to me, I discovered her a year ago, and found a great comfort in in her lyrics, and realised what an amazing talent she is! :-) Who saw her on MTV unplugged ? That was brilliant!!!! I look forward to chatting with you all on the list! Michelle _________________________________________________________________________ Bangle Fandom : http://web.ukonline.co.uk/Members/michelle.t2/Bangles.htm Kindred Spirit: http://web.ukonline.co.uk/Members/michelle.t2/KSpirit.htm 'You don't like my point of view, and i'm insane' - Blind Melon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:34:05 EST From: DOUG Subject: nmec - amanda marshall Good evening all. Happy Election Day Eve for all the Americans on the list. Remember if you don't vote - you can't moan and groan about it for 4 years! Now - after reading the reviews of Amanda Marshall by ME Listers and at the insistence of my best bud, I did purchase her cd this weekend (at Camelot for 9.99 - the power buy of my week!). I am glad I did buy it. It is a good album and I look forward to more work by her. Okay, there is some mec - Friday night, I was presented with a question - do I stay home and watch 20/20 or do I go out to a local nightspot and have some cocktails? Of course the answer was obvious - go have them cocktails. Upon arrival at the bar, I and my bud were asked to judge the 21st Annual Miss Shamrock Pageant, which was a drag pageant. Well both of us declines since we had to work the next day and couldn't stay long. It was an interesting evening while we were there. Anyhow, I hope the interview wasn't as ridiculous as the promos for it were. Before I wander back into the murky woods of confusion and paranormal activity that make up my hometown - a special "Howdy" to Renee and Pooh. Doug (anxiously counting the days till Reba's new album and the soundtrack to "Evita" arrive in stores!) PS - did you all see this weekend's episode of Xena? When Gabrielle bit Xena's neck - I think Xena was in ecstacy! Very weird episode. And I think they kinda ripped off "Legend" for the make-up on Bacchus - IMHO. "Sometimes its hard to take the hand that life deals that's for sure But together come whatever I know we will endure All the hurt and pain you feel inside you Just be strong - Take my hand come on - I'll guide you..." - taken from "I'M HERE FOR YOU" performed by Anne Nesby Doug Brown, Program Support Wytheville Community College TELETECHNET - Site 582 Phone - 540-223-0161 Fax - 540-223-0233 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:15:29 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: Real Fan oops Seems I have been gently reminded that: >The term "Real Fan (tm)" has a specific meaning on the list; it refers >to a >person who will not stand for *anything* negative said about their idol. Thanks Redsocks and others...I'm doing pretty well with most of the in-jokes on the list. This one I missed. I will be much more careful in the future. Yeah, right! Seriously, I thought it was a fresh and newly minted argument. later... -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:14:18 -0800 From: Elizabeth Meadows Subject: NMEC: Philly Pub Crawl Shirl wrote, sometime last week: > > for the Philadelphia Area Bunch: so maybe we, us'ns, on this end of the state > > should be the FABbers!!!! YES, the Filladelphia Area Bunch. Whadda ya think?? > > FABulous! > > Our first official get together is next weekend Saturday 9th "The Philly > Pub Crawl", I'm designating Francie(swimfishie@aol.com) as our official > Philly Hostess and was hoping Elizabeth Meadows would also lend a hand? > Hey there Liz where you been, can you come out and play next weekend? Hi all! I guess I didn't miss the gathering after all. Sorry you were sick Shirl, although the timing certainly works out better for me this way! I was in Arizona last week, on an absolutely wonderful vacation that I really wish I was still on. And the two or so weeks before it I was so crazed at work getting ready to go that I barely had time to read my email, much less answer it. I hate when work gets in the way of my emailing! I'd love to make it, help out, etc. I'm even free that day. So, what's been planned so far? What should I be doing to help? Hey - I'm finally in an official Bunch! - Elizabeth :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:09:27 EST From: Marfilina Subject: some MEC Hi everyone, how ya doing? Does anyone know what's up with RockOnTV? (http://www.satchmo.com/rockontv/) I used to go to it all the time to make sure I didn't miss anything musical on TV, but whenever I try to go there I get an error message (Error 404, Not Found). Sometimes I'll get to the page that lists weeks to check out, but when I click on the week I get the error message. (Plus it only goes up 'til October 20). Any ideas out there about what happened to it? Here's the MEC part... ever since I heard these 2 songs I've kinda been wondering this. (I'm sorry if this has been discussed before - I have to unsubscribe during the summer 'cause I don't have access to my school email account). Anyone ever play with the idea that "I Wanna Come Over" could be a 'prequel' of sorts to "The Weakness in Me?" I put those 2 songs on a mix tape in that order and it just kinda hit me. Just wondering if anyone else ever thought of that. Here I go, back to lurkdom... Donna College of Engineering Rutgers University, NJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:18:49 UT From: ML Subject: Tampa Review I'm still trying to recover from my weekend which included Melissa's Tampa concert! The first concert at the new Ice Palace. I met Michelle and Jackie at Michelle's house so we could ride to the show together. Michelle was getting a pre-concert dance lesson in the living room We arranged to meet the out of town listers at a Bennigans. Jackie even flew in from Texas to meet her buddy Michelle! Thanks for the girl scout cookie Jackie! We had a nice time at Bennigans eating and drinking. We also had an unusual photo opportunity! How did that pic turn out Pam? I want copies!! At Bennigans: Michelle F., Jackie S., Pam, Lori, Lisa, Joyce, Rhonda, Tina, and MaryLou. I screwed us up on getting to the Palace from Bennigan's. Found out that the road leading *from* the venue to the interstate does not lead *into* the venue. It took someone from Pensacola to get us there! Sorry again ladies! :} No doubt it's the same set list. Once she moved to the back stage I stopped writing it down. I was too busy with taking pictures of her. I've got one that will be perfect for a poster! We had originally thought we would have a problem getting the camera in. They weren't even checking! I could have even recorded! :( Fashion report: Same black shiny pants, black t-shirt with a big star in the middle, blue cover shirt with little start all over it (all different colored stars). She sounded great! Although once at the back stage we couldn't hear her at all. Being the second show since having two weeks off, she looked rested and was in a great mood. She has an amazing energy level. We were on our feet the entire time! She seems to be generated from the crowd. At the Minneapolis show, I was surprised how sedate the crowd was. It took most of her performance to get them on their feet. I can really tell the difference between the two shows. She did more talking between songs and seemed to "play" more with the band at this show. I took my mother to the show. She had a great time too! I'd glance over at her every so often and she'd have this big grin on her face. This was her first rock concert since she saw Ray Charles (rock?) in the 60's!! :D With talk of the Janis movie *she* even said that no one should play her *but* Melissa! All right Mom!!! On seating assignment through the network: I bought through MEIN, got row 23. Michelle bought through ticket outlet, she got first level off floor. Other friend bought through an outlet and got fourth row on the floor! Can't figure this stuff out! I was able to get to the back stage fairly quick, so I guess I shouldn't complain. She ended with TWIO and was on her knees leaning into the crowd. Oh man! It surprised me that she would do this and not have a fear of getting hurt somehow. She had also leaned backwards into the crowd when she was on the back stage. She must be very trusting. After the show we went out dancing. Although the club we chose was so crowded with concert goers, we couldn't even get close to the dance floor (except Jackie - who really didn't have a choice!). We also had time for window shopping! There was a little upstairs patio off of the main floor of the club. Well....the window to the restroom faced this patio and um....well...oh hell, it was nice scenery! :D I hope all the travelers got home safely! Take care...hope to see you next year (hoping there will be a tour next year) Again, I apologize for the mix-up in directions. Forgive? MaryLou (who's happy to be back at work to get much needed rest) ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 3 Nov 1996 to 4 Nov 1996 - Special issue **************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Tue Nov 5 00:00:47 1996 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:00:04 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 4 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:32:22 +1000 From: Margo Hellyer Subject: Joan A's TWIM, making it up as you go along. Elaine asked: >>> Reading from the printed lyrics from The Very Best Of Joan >>> Armatrading: >>> "Are you so strong >>> Or is all the weakness in me" >>> Cant confirm that it is the same on Walk Under Ladders > >It is (I'm a real Joan fan, I should know. ) But how can the lyrics >change from a studio album to a gh album unless the song is rerecorded for >the gh album? Being a methodical, logical kind of person I thought it safer to only confirm the printed lyrics and vocals on the cd that I had immediate access to - the gh compilation. I was pretty sure that "Or is all .." is what Joan sing on Walk Under Ladders, but this cd was home nestled in amongst the multitudes of 'A' cds (I own a lot of Armatrading and Anderson releases). And sometimes the printed lyrics can be wrong in a cd booklet. It was kinda interesting listening to Joan's version immediately followed by Melissa from Ain't Nuthin' But a She Thing. They are quite different but equally good. After seeing Monique Brumby and Amanda Marshall on Saturday (post a review Mardi), we retired to a couch with coffee and old Fleetwood Mac videos. What a sad tragic figure Stevie Nicks was/is (?) Now Stevie was/is someone who changed the lyrics of her songs almost every time she sang them. Mostly because she was so out of it that she couldn't actually remember them. But still it made her performances kind of unpredictable. One of the concert videos we saw had Stevie missing a whole verse as she had wandered off backstage and Lindsey Buckingham just stepped in and sang it for her. But no-one does hair fluff and high heeled boots like Stevie! Margo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:29:44 +0000 From: Renee Sweeney Subject: "The Baby Shower Tour" Reply to: "The Baby Shower Tour" Hi guys! How's it going? Pretty good here. New REBA album tomorrow, Bill Clinton = will remain President (crossing my fingers on this one, cause Bob Dole = frightens me!), VH1 Storytellers 5 more days, and only 12 more days to- = MLE, MLE!!!! I liked the Newsweek article, but it was nothing new as has been stated = here previously. The 20/20 spot was neat in several aspects, but the = promos for it were retarded! "Melissa Etheridge- she's hot, she sexy, = and she's a LESBIAN!" So f'in what!?!? I know, I know, I'm being too = radical, right? Okay, I'm calming down now...Calm, calm... Anyway, for those Dallasites in the know- what's the deal with MLE coming = to the "Moon" - or whatever you want to call it? Do we think she's = really gonna do that? Wow- wouldn't that be cool? Anyway, just wanted to air a few observations here- oh! just one more! = Personally, I think the ultrasound picture thing is TOTALLY cool...And to = MLE&Julie, I say- "Y'all go girls!" I'll go back to lurking now and wondering where the heck my "friends" = from Austin, Houston and one certain lovely boy from Virginia might be? = It's all of y'all's turn to write! I'm waiting... Oh- and for any of you posting pictures from the FajitaFlingersFestival, o= r any past gathering I say- "Don't you dare put me in them! I demand to = be cut out of the pics!"- NOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTT!!!! ROCK ON LISTERS- Renee' (in Dallas, wishing someone else was dressing MLE *and* Ellen for = their TV appearances these days...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:46:30 -0800 From: edgy Subject: new lil fact One thing the 20/20 interview did reveal was the day that Julie and Melissa met (when they were asked about anniversaries): August 23, 1988. Not earth-shattering but a cold, hard fact for the FAQ :) Allison "I knew it had to have been a blonde" edgy@netcom.com --P. Shaw (11/2/96) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:14:17 -0500 From: "A.D.Eder" Subject: VH1,storytellers have caught a few videos on VH1 this week, showing ME doing "CTMW" and another doing ITOO...absolutely excellent :-D check them out...... andrea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:31:07 -0600 From: Debby Anderson Subject: 20/20 I'm so upset!! I was about a week behind on my digests and 4 days too late for 20/20!! Please, would someone who taped it please e-mail me privately. I will compensate you for your time, tape, postage...you name it. Just my luck, the one friday evening I go out all year and MLE's on 20/20.....UGHHHH! Thanks!!! Debby zoestarr@village.yvv.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:23:19 GMT From: Elaine Naiman Subject: Mardi/Amanda/Real Fan /Voting/Rock on TV Mardi wrote: >> We...the members of Sistablue have finally decided on our new >> name...but...again... >> you are going to have to go to >> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7848/ >> to find it. Some of us already know. ;-) >> this is the official new name site..and will be up dated , Will it be easier to d/l the sound files now? >> and we got a 'special invite' to the Amanda Marshall in house gig As audience members or as the opening act? >> people have been saying she has some 'unusual' and hard to watch >> body movements. No more hard to watch than Joe Cocker. >> Thanks guys....and Elaine. (Couldn't resist....)(Ducking) You're welcome. And you owe me email. Randy asked: >> If we don't voice those opinions, how is the artist going to get >> any feedback? I know you've been told the meaning of Real Fan on this list but do you really think that anybody shows Melissa the negative criticism (other than her questionable fashion sense) that appears on this list or the AOL board or wherever? Julia wrote: >> A friendly reminder to get out and vote Tuesday!!! I vote for the Ottawa bus drivers not to go on strike but since I'm not a member of their union, I don't think it will count. Dan wrote: >> and my wife thinks I'm nuts. She just found this out? DOUG wrote: >> after reading the reviews of Amanda Marshall by ME Listers and >> at the insistence of my best bud, I did purchase her cd this >> weekend (at Camelot for 9.99 - the power buy of my week!). Best Buy, in Northern VA anyways, has it for $7.99. Marfilina asked: >> Does anyone know what's up with RockOnTV? I have a link to it on my page and I went to it yesterday. It works fine and is up to date. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:48:34 -0500 From: "D. Jessamyn Scott Breed" Subject: TAMPA/Missy Missive: Be Brave, It's Long => Hey All! I'm still up in the clouds after seeing Melissa @ the Ice Palace in Tampa. (Sorry I missed you other Listers @ Bennigans *and* the Will Call window.. I was traveling with a large group of us out-of-towners and we made it to the venue @ about 7:45!!!) but..I was thrilled with the seats MEIN had for me..8th row floor! Not bad. Me and my buddies were wondering if seniority of MEIN membership might have anything to do with it...they, as brand new members, got their seats up on the first sections on the sides..just a thought. ANYWAYS..on to the details! It's already been covered about all the neat "Ice Break-in" stuff that Melissa did. The lighters came out about five songs into the set, for "Nowhere to Go" She seemed touched..and it was about then also, that the "we love you's" began to be shouted from the crowd => There was a stuffed bear and a stuffed Piglet thrown onstage. She counted out loud...4,942..4,943..and half chuckled. Piglet wound up perched on one of the amps behind Shanks!!! Aaaahhhh...Melissa is like the finest wine ever... She just keeps getting better and better with time! I don't even know if I can come up with the words to do justice.. but I'll try.. As she walked onto the stage (lights still out, band members preceded her), she had her arms a little outstretched and she seemed to take in the energy coming from the crowd..it seemed to charge her up..like she was breathing it in. She talked a little bit about having been on television the night before (crowd screams) and commented, "didn't Barbara seem a little nervous?" and laughed. Then she also said something about how the Prez. would be arriving in Tampa later that night (I'm sure Tampa airport security had their hands full..plus the Governor was supposed to arrive, too!) Melissa said to make sure that we told the Prez that she "had a few things she'd like to talk to him about" BTW, she did a lot of smirking as such during lyrics that reflected struggles with prejudice, etc. The screens up on the sides of the stage displayed wonderful camerawork.. although I can't say that I was looking at them often, the few times that I did, I was totally impressed with the synchronicity of the video closeups w/ Shanks' handiwork or Brown's basslines. There were lots of nice image overlaps and slow mo segues..and of course, closeups of MLE! My buddies commented later that a compilation of best tracks from different shows might make a nice YLS Tour live video! Think she'll do it? Aronoff truly was a unifying force and Melissa seemed to be having a blast playing off of him...especially during song "wrap-ups" -- when they seemed a little like Chip and Dale -- deferring to each other about when to really..no really..ok *this time*.. cut off. It was really cute! Melissa was in rare form...(ok, I've only seen her three times), but show "staples" such as the groove-with-the-guitar thing (although some have said it's a tired feature) maybe it was just me, but she was really into it that strumming...sheesh...squeals and joyous laughter abounded!! She looked up when she was done and gave one of those "spent" looks and I wanted to hand her a cig..or grab one myself! I love the way she sort of "stalks" around the stage and approaches the mic..she's got that performer thing down pretty good. Also, during the chorus of "Change," she mouthed to the crowd "the only thing...the only thing" You *had* to see it...girlfriend was workin it..but making it look effortless! One of the other emotional highlights was during "Silent Legacy" -- Someone else already noted the increased significance of the line, "Ooh, my child" -- and I can tell you, although I am not one who professes to be able to see auras, if I could, I would tell you that hers seemed to triple in size during those lines...she was so full of emotion, (yet contained, her chest seemed to swell..her heart!) I thought she was about to mist up and cry..like the whole impact of becoming a parent was everpresent with her during those moments...beautiful!!!! I was ready to cry right along with her..and I became even more convinced that little Austin is going to be brought into this world surrounded by immense love and tenderness..."refuse to hand it down..the Legacy..stops here!" (I've got goosies *again*!!) Hmm...what else? well, my pals told me that during the small stage set that the sound for the rest of the arena was rather poor (and that the backtrack coming from the speakers at the main stage was discernable from the sound @ the small stage) I was in the throng that gathered and was just inches away from the the woman who caught the drumstick that Aronoff threw. She was elated! Oh yeah, there were a few bundled bras thrown from the back of the arena..Shanks promptly used his boot to sweep them over the side.. Then, back to the main stage...It was about 10 pm (still a good hour to go!) and...well..although we had to show our tickets to security in order to get back to the first ten rows, everyone in the front section had managed to casually gather toward the main stage during the small stage set...so we, too, slowly made our way the main stage...and WOW! I wanted to take a chance and maybe be able to touch Melissa's hand (I had come close once before and this would be my last chance since this was the only show I could afford and she won't be back for a long time!) I waited patiently and sure enough, toward the end, when she was just singing and not playing her git she came and stood right in front of me. (Whereas I had been absolutely speechless the last time I got a chance, this time I yelled up to her, "we love you Melissa!") Just about then, she reached down toward me one hand at a time, and I got to caress each of her hands...and they are *soft*!!! I also had a chance (a few moments earlier when she was also standing in front of me) to caress those wild pants of hers...they feel like one part plastic, one part vinyl and one part parachute..so who only knows what the mystery fabric really is!!?? (Hey Eliz -- did you ask her that in your interview? ) Anyways..I have been on cloud nine since the concert and being able to touch her hands ever so gently and lovingly...a dream come true!!!! I revere her more and more all the time. I think she is one of the most emotionally capable human beings I have ever known of. She was met with rows upon rows of hands formed in the peace sign when she closed with, "Be Strong, Speak True and Spread the Peace!" She's the BEST!!! Well, thanks for letting me take up some bandwidth. Ya'll take extra good care of her as she heads out west. It will truly be a long time before we get to see her again!!! KiP, Jesse P.S. Oh yeah, as far as backlighted stage pictures, I thought they were sort of unified by "humankind" on one side (a cross section sketch of an eye, the sonogram, etc.) and design elements (buildings, architecture, clothing, zipper handle pulling two sets of teeth together) hmm..things human, things human made...just my interpretation. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:34:12 -0500 From: Jen Smith Subject: Artist Feedback/Accepting Parents/Regrets/Lil' Facts Elaine Naiman writes: >do you really think that anybody shows Melissa the negative criticism >(other than her questionable fashion sense) that appears on this list >or the AOL board or wherever? I think this is a good question. I know the issue has been raised here before (I believe it was even you who raised it, Naiman)...it's hard to tell what she hears and from what she's 'spared'. I would like to think that she hears criticism of all kinds--otherwise, how could she positively grow and learn and develop? I, for one, do not improve at anything unless I'm told what I'm doing wrong to begin with. I've not lurked too much on the AOL boards, but I don't tend to see much criticism at all (could just be that I pick tamer periods to read them). Perhaps Elaine has a point...if MLE is *not* privy to negative (constructive?) comments, and if there is rarely a negative word on the AOL boards, perhaps *that's* why she lurks and participates there and not here (I'm not saying that she doesn't lurk here...and I guess that she *did* used to greet new listers! ;-) ). I think it would be a shame for her not to hear *all* of the feedback. >I vote for the Ottawa bus drivers not to go on strike but since I'm not a >member of their union, I don't think it will count. I wish to hell this was what *I* was voting for! It's getting so scarey that I actually *listened* to Ross Perot on TV tonight...and *he made sense to me*!!! "Think about it..."... ;-) Deb wrote (wrt to accepting parents): >Grudgingly, from what MLE's said in interviews. This is interesting, because as I *drove through Leavenworth on my way to and from Colorado over the past two weeks* (I stopped in Russell just to say that I'd been there and I now have a better understanding of why Bob Dole has no understanding...), I wondered if MLE would be stopping off to see the parental unit as she was passing through. I wondered how her mom feels about her and Julie and their impending family. We just don't hear too much about MLE's family. I wonder why MLE wasn't asked how *her* mother feels about the baby? >mine want nothing to do with me. I heard it's because of the damn tool-belt wearing dog that lusts after Joyce-- has nothing to do with your being a lesbian! :-) >Even Julie's parents seem a little uncomfortable with it... I noticed that her >mom said that they "never knew anyone... in that situation" -- studiously >avoiding (consciously or unconsciously) the words "gay" or lesbian." Grandpa Cypher, however, is building the tyke a new crib...sounds to me as though they are coming around pretty nicely. I noticed that Grandma did skirt the 'L' word...but I got the impression that her heart was in the right place. the-nfl@IX.NETCOM.COM (Carol Andredesz) writes: >It's as if these times are so PC that one cannot make an extreme comment. >Well, if Linda can say it why than can't I? If everyone has the right to >their own opinion then I am stooping to no lower level. You've got a right to your own opinion and I didn't read the original interview w/Linda and I've certainly not read any personal mail you've received, but I have to agree that your comments about Linda ODing kind of disturbed me. It's really not a fortunate thing when anyone OD's...it's rather sad. And, given Linda's apparent history of drug abuse, why would you want to stoop as low as her 'ass-kicking' statement? BTW...Linda is not the only person, public figure or private citizen, who harbors a dislike for MLE becuase of her 'late outting'. I just had a heated discussion w/one of my best friends last night because she doesn't like MLE for this very reason. She feels that MLE should've come out at the beginning of her career and she feels that MLE was a wuss for not doing so. OTOH, I support MLE's decision to come out later in life. I don't blame her one bit for wanting to make sure she was operating with a stable career/financial base before she 'dropped the bomb'. I'm out at work and I made damn sure that I had friends in the office and that I was secure in my job before I said anything. The Edgy One wrote: >One thing the 20/20 interview did reveal was the day that Julie and >Melissa met (when they were asked about anniversaries): August 23, 1988. Apparently, MLE had a hard time remembering this when the interviewer for News- week asked this question...she hem-hawed a bit and finally said, "August twenty .....third?" Julie confirmed. IMHO, the true mark of a couple truly in love and bound together for the long haul, is the ability to forget important dates...it shows just how comfortable you are that you won't get dumped on your ass when you forget those special days (except b-days...don't *ever* forget a b-day!)! :-) sianora, folks... jen "how *ABOUT* them *STEELERS*!!!" smith (and we mustn't forget those Nittany Lions, either...in Northwestern's faces!!! Bwa-ha-haaaa...ROWR ROWR!!!) ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 4 Nov 1996 ********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Wed Nov 6 00:00:58 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:00:18 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 4 Nov 1996 to 5 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:36:54 -0600 From: Katherine Roberts Subject: 20/20 tape I was stuck driving through the entire state of Illinois Friday night and had to miss 20/20. Is there anyone who got in on tape who would be willing to make me a copy in exchange for a couple of boots? Thanks much, Kate kater@merle.acns.nwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:20:26 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Storytellers and speckless fame After a long night teaching Puritan Sermons (don't ask), I come home, pour a glass of wine, and turn on VH1. I catch the end of the Storytellers CTMW; then on comes the new Counting Crows video. Naturally, I'm feeling a little puffy about myself since I technically was just in back to back VH1 videos (in the audience in both). Granted, I was just a speck of dust/fly on the wall of video immortality, but I guess that my speck of insignificance is, at least, in medium rotation at VH1. Whoda thunk? Can specks stagger at the precipice of fame anyway? Who knows, but the CTMW video looked good. I imagine it'll get into heavy rotation soon enough. I also wanted to confess my egregious boo boo earlier: I said the August 23 anniversary quote was from 20/20, when, as Jen pointed out, it was from Newsweek. I guess I gave out a faux FAQ fact. (try saying that five times fast without offending a relative). Off to bed, and none too soon, Allison "I knew it had to have been a blonde" edgy@netcom.com --P. Shaw (11/02/96) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 05:40:26 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: "Good Morning America" Morning Melisters! Be sure to get out and "Rock The Vote" And be sure to catch Good Morning America this morning for they are doing live broadcasts from the Poohsters place of work Ohio University! Just might catch a glimpse of Pooh! You never know!!! Have a good one! "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:04:57 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: VH1 Storytellers 2 am report.... Just saw CTMW on VH1- promo for Storytellers..was waiting for NTG to come on so I could tape it, so I had the VCR ready & got it... Melissa looks a bit pale & over made up. I'm not a good critic nor fashion reporter, so I'll refrain from reporting on those. Looking forward to it! Think she'll explain AUK, or just tease us somemore?? ;-) later, mary who's up *way* past her bedtime ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 04:30:44 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: Absolutely NMEC whatsoever I just got some really great news, and I'm afraid that if I don't share it with someone, I may burst! It's nothing earth-shattering, just my first baby-butch steps towards big time activism. I just found out I'm sort of the coordinator for a huge Diversity Awareness Week our Theme House wants to facilitate for our college! Yeeeehaw!!! (Who was it that asked if Southerners said, "Ye-haw?" ) If I play my cards right, it'll be a QueerRights/Religious/MinorityRights/AnimalRights/Women'sIssues/DisabilityRights /EnvironmentalActivism/AIDS-HIVAwareness/AndMaybeMore affair, with workshops, open forums, speeches, and a mural provided by artist Amy E. Bartell (ever seen Syracuse Cultural Workers catalogues? *Standard Good-Business Plug*: call 315-474-1132 for catalouge) I just hope I don't screw this up....I must admit I'm quite nervous... Thanks for the bandwith; wish me luck! mary who's shaking in her pinstriped boxershorts right now ________________________________________________________ ------ no one is free when others are oppressed ------ _________http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/1827________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:11:57 GMT From: Elaine Naiman Subject: Somewhere over the rainbow Jen Smith wrote: >> > somewhere> Where? Where? >do you really think that anybody shows Melissa the negative criticism >> I think this is a good question. I know the issue has been raised >> here before (I believe it was even you who raised it, Naiman) Oh, probably, Smith. >> otherwise, how could she positively grow and learn and develop? "I really like you" is growth? >> (I'm not saying that she doesn't lurk here...and I guess that she >> *did* used to greet new listers! ;-) ). Only when she had some free time. ;-) >> actually *listened* to Ross Perot on TV tonight...and *he made >> sense to me*!!! I'm beginning to worry about you, Jen. >> This is interesting, because as I *drove through Leavenworth | >> I wondered if MLE would be stopping off to see Considering her father's dead and her mother no longer lives in Leavenworth, not very likely. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:29:18 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: AOL Boards; Greeting Listers; Moms; Football Hiya, Jen's back! and she said: >> I've not lurked too much on the AOL boards, but I don't tend to see much criticism at all (could just be that I pick tamer periods to read them).<< Well, you're basically right! You don't see too much criticism of Melissa on the AOL board. And when someone does post something negative, people will jump immediately to Melissa's defense, and the person posting the criticism will be subjected to a round of flames as well. I think this is a shame. Otoh, most of the time the people on the AOL board don't criticize each other, either. So there are folks who feel that board is a "safer" space than this list. I like both the AOL board and this list for different reasons. >>and I guess that she *did* used to greet new listers! ;-) ). << LOL! Are you saying that Melissa used to greet new listers on this list? How d'ya know? Tell! Tell! Or was it Elaine being her rascally self? ;-) >>I wondered if MLE would be stopping off to see the parental unit as she was passing through. I wondered how her mom feels about her and Julie and their impending family. We just don't hear too much about MLE's family.<< Mel's Ma lives in the northwest corner of Arkansas, toots. I think she's supportive of Melissa but is just kind of an introverted sort of person. And it could very well be that it just didn't occur to the media folks to ask Melissa's mom how she felt about the pregnancy, since Julie is the one who is pregnant. It's biased, I know, and happened to *me* all the time when Beth was pregnant. Even now, Beth and I will be having a conversation with someone, who will suddenly start asking Beth questions about David. Finally I will have to interrupt and say, "You can ask me, too, you know, since I'm also his mom." People are still just getting used to it all, ya know? >>I heard it's because of the damn tool-belt wearing dog that lusts after Joyce-- has nothing to do with your being a lesbian! :-)<< Well, at least *somebody* lusts after me. >>>One thing the 20/20 interview did reveal was the day that Julie and >Melissa met (when they were asked about anniversaries): August 23, 1988.<< Ostensibly this was in St. Louis, even, but that's not been confirmed. >>(and we mustn't forget those Nittany Lions, either...in Northwestern's faces!!! Bwa-ha-haaaa...ROWR ROWR!!!)<< Well, now, you know I went to Penn State, but boy, oh, boy, were they roundly beaten by Ohio State this year. ;-) Later, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:23:50 -0500 From: Subject: Renee's back Hooray, Renee Sweeney's back! Hello darlin...you have been sorely missed around here. I'm hoping we will be seeing you at the big Dallas confab as Raunch and I will be swinging into town. Are you going to join in with the locals and show us out of towners what a big ole Dallas welcome is like? And Liz Spector too...this is quite a momentous occasion. There are plans to gather at Liz Burns' place prior to the Austin concert. I've heard rumors that fajitas might even be involved. If you need E-Mail addresses, drop me a line and I'll get you back online. Can't wait, only a few days until the Texas swing starts. Hope to see the folks from the MEList that are touring down Texas way. We will be suited up in purple as usual! (Hi Dan, glad to see you'll be heading south) Until then, I'll just have to amuse myself with the Philly Pub Crawl. Say Shirl, does breakfast Saturday morning include the infamous Shirl Breakfast Potatoes? Hmmm, I wonder if JCS will be on VH1 again for our discussion... Take care, SueD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:51:38 -0500 From: Mark Sutton Subject: TWIM >From: Margo Hellyer >Subject: Joan A's TWIM, making it up as you go along. >Being a methodical, logical kind of person I thought it safer to only >confirm the printed lyrics and vocals on the cd that I had immediate access >to - the gh compilation. I was pretty sure that "Or is all .." is what Joan >sing on Walk Under Ladders, but this cd was home nestled in amongst the >multitudes of 'A' cds (I own a lot of Armatrading and Anderson releases). >And sometimes the printed lyrics can be wrong in a cd booklet. Thank you to everyone who either knew or checked. I had read the lyrics on the internet (the ones that went..'resolve the weakness in me') and couldn't believe that was what I was hearing..glad to hear it was wrong too..didn't like it that way as much! Of age, non-fellonious American listers..get out there and vote! Toni ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 05:01:17 EST From: M Something Subject: Re: Tampa Review MaryLou wrote: >I met Michelle and Jackie at Michelle's house so we could ride to the >show together. Michelle was getting a pre-concert dance lesson in the >living room LOL! Remember, "it" always knows! ;) >We arranged to meet the out of town listers at a Bennigans. Jackie >even flew in from Texas to meet her buddy Michelle! Thanks for the girl scout >cookie Jackie! We had a nice time at Bennigans eating and drinking. We also >had an unusual photo opportunity! How did that pic turn out Pam? I >want copies!! Jackie does like to spread the "peace" doesn't she? LOL! Jackie, I miss you already. >After the show we went out dancing. Although the club we chose was so >crowded with concert goers, we couldn't even get close to the dance floor >(except Jackie - who really didn't have a choice!). She gave new meaning to the term "being swept off your feet." Her presence on the dance floor was demanded, rather than requested, by a certain bar patron. I guess being gorgeous does have its drawbacks, huh Jackie? The concert was fantastic. I was mesmerized from start to finish. MLE puts on such a great show! I can't believe she may not be touring again for quite some time. I will certainly miss her if she doesn't come around again soon. Meeting everybody before and after the concert was great. Jesse, where were you? Sorry we missed you. I was really looking forward to meeting you. Also, sorry we got separated, Cynthia. The line for the ladies room took about 40 minutes (after an MLE concert, go figure) and by the time I got back to look for you, you were gone. I hope we get to do it again sometime. :) Well, the long-awaited weekend has come and gone, but the memories will last forever. :) Michelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:08:34 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: For those who like Sheryl Crow (NMEC) Hello fans, I know a lot of you like Crow's music so I'll give my opinion on the Sunday's show of the European Tour 1996 in Paradiso Amsterdam because many people have different view's at it. I did visit her show last sunday and I must say i'm surprised by it. The opening was great. "Sovory" was a complete stranger to me, but many of us had heard his songs already. Is he very popular in the USA? He played for 45 minutes and he enjoyed it as well as I have. In the meantime the smell of marihuana and weed gets all over the place. Because I'm a non-smoker I have to get used to it in the next minutes. Sheryl played from 10 to 11.45PM and did it in complete different ways. Soms songs have been raped by herself I think and some songs are just perfect live. It's strange. Everytime she played a song it was great or just a hell. If It Makes You Happy is a great song and even live it is great but my favourite song on cd is Hard To Make A Stand and live it sucks (that's why it's her first song ???). She played a song from the X-Files and because I don't watch it often I never heard it before but I think it was the best song of the evening (I think it was called "the other side" or something like that). Overall I think I enjoyed the show. I can understand that people write her down to the floor. Sometimes it's better when she lays down her guitar because she can't play it in the right way. I hope she playes better in Germany (maybe I give her a second chance this week in Cologne, Germany). For those who are interested : I've taped the show in full lenght (excellent quality taped from radio STEREO) Including the opening act "Sovory" Anyone who is interested in the setlist or wants to receive a copy--> mail please Are you going to see her show in the States: don't have to high expectations! Maybe it is that I'm a Melissa fan and nobody playes live better than Mel. Hope nobody is confused by the NMEC. till next time, Marcel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:30:29 -0500 From: Tei at netcom Subject: melissa on sesame street for all of you who are concerned.... or who get newhampshire public television... I asked them when Melissa will air on Sesame Street and they responded with this.... > Subject: > Sesame Street with Melissa Ethridge > Date: > Tue, 05 Nov 96 11:10:09 EST > From: > mona@nhptv11.unh.edu > To: > teiisme@ix.netcom.com > > > > Ms. Kepka, > > Thanks for your kind comments about New Hampshire Public >Television. > I'm glad your son enjoys our children's programming! > > In answer to your question, the Sesame Street program which will > include Melissa Ethridge's spot on the letter "U" will air on >NHPTV on > Thursday, November 21 at 5:00 p.m., and will be repeated on >Friday, > November 22 at 8:00 am. > > Hope this is helpful, and feel free to e-mail us any time with > your > questions or comments. > > Sincerely, > > Mona Hillery > NHPTV Programming Department I will be taping!!!! your fellow lister,, tei! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:14:55 CST From: Elizabeth Burns Subject: NMEC - Ellen commercial Have any of you seen the recent commercial for Ellen? It has her wearing a dressy, low-cut shirt that shows off her cleavage and she comments something to the effect of "You've heard the rumors about me coming out, well, this is what they were talking about" and she kinda thrusts out her chest. It's quite amusing. i can't remember the last time i laughed so hard at a commercial. :) C'ya! liz PS. If there are any listers out there who are planning on coming to Austin to see ME on 15 November and haven't gotten any info on the pre-concert get together (and want to join us), drop me a note via private email. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:39:54 -0500 From: Carol Delk Subject: made it up north Hi all, Elaine again. Made it up to visit Carol in NH this morning and am enjoying the beautiful sceenery. Not much chocolate here; good thing I stopped through Boston on my way up. There's a bootleg store there, too, Mystery Train 2 on Newbury St., but they didn't have anything new. -Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:50:49 -0500 From: Loretta Myers Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 3 Nov 1996 to 4 Nov 1996 - YEEEHAW! Dan Cohen asked if we really say "YeeeHaw" in Texas. Only when we wear our boots, spurs, and cowboy hats to bed. Seriously, maybe sometimes when we are just kidding around, and maybe they do sometimes at a CW dance, but I haven't been to one of those in a whole bunch of years. Loretta We do say y'all--but not when we are speaking to and about only one person. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:15:13 +1100 From: HOLMES V O Subject: Re: new lil fact > One thing the 20/20 interview did reveal was the day that Julie and > Melissa met (when they were asked about anniversaries): August 23, 1988. > Not earth-shattering but a cold, hard fact for the FAQ :) FAQ? What FAQ? I guess I should have known that there was one!! Can somebody send it to me? Tell me where it is? Veronica ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:41:47 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: DC Photos/Goin' To Memphis Hi everyone, FIRST, a very belated "it was great to meet all of you!!" to everyone I met at the DC Gathering. I had a blast and just got the "flats" of MLE I won back from the frame shop, and they're going right over the mantle! Yes, that's me in the pictures being a goof although I think I was definitely outdone by Gwen... :) Second, a couple of us from Maryland and Virginia are driving (12 hours?) to meet up with some Arkansans and to see MLE in Memphis on Saturday, November 23rd and would love to hook up with any Listers that will be there! We'll probably stay close to the Mid-South Coliseum and will try to take in the sights of Memphis before the the show, if we can figure out where to go besides Graceland! I think some of you are going, so please email me! Jill :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:16:00 GMT From: Beth Durff Subject: NMEC - Honda's and Nittany Lions Michelle wrote: >(my 93 Honda Civic EX was stolen about a month ago) how did you ever survive it? and: >(a former and soon to be again Honda owner!!) You Go Girl !!! Hey Shirl - yet one more HOB (Honda Owner's Bunch)member ----------------------------- Jen wrote: >jen "how *ABOUT* them *STEELERS*!!!" smith (and we mustn't forget those >Nittany Lions, either...in Northwestern's faces!!! Bwa-ha-haaaa...ROWR >ROWR!!!) Yup. Nittany Lions - takin' names and kicking some *ss! Even in sickness , that got my *attention*... Beth (Honda driving chick magnet going back to bed now) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:12:54 EST From: "Diane M. Brundige" Subject: NMEC - Ellen commercial >Author: Elizabeth Burns at INTERNET >Date: 11/5/96 2:18 PM >Have any of you seen the recent commercial for Ellen? I saw it - LOL!! I busted a gut over this. You didn't mention the hairdo. She had it all curled and dolled up. I wonder if this is a preview of Wednesday's episode. I can't wait. >C'ya! C'ya in Texas next week! Diane (& Karen) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:33:26 -0500 From: Laura Ward Subject: August 23 . . Is my anniversary, too! Cool, huh? 11 years later, and still VERY much in love. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:37:39 -0500 From: "Jess Lang, RN" Subject: Re: MELISSA ON 20/20 AND I MISSED IT!!! Read on for a Proposition... Hi there! I'm new to this list and I'm really glad to be apart of it!! You guys out there seem to be one step ahead of the game when it comes to news about Melissa!! I have one big problem though...I MISSED MELISSA AND JULIE ON 20/20!!! If anyone out there taped it and would like to forward me a copy, you will be heavily rewarded with a few things. Number 1....A Melissa Etheridge Bootleg...(with excellent sound, I might add) Number 2....A copy of picture (s) of Melissa taken at a Montreal concert by my girlfriend (she had a press pass to go RIGHT UP TO THE STAGE to take pictures for half an hour for the local Gay and Lesbian Community Newspaper) So, Girls...first come, first serve!!! PS>if anyone is interested in a trade, I'm open to that also!!! Hope to hear from you soon!!! Jess Lang, RN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:50:39 -0500 From: "Laura A. Vess" Subject: Atlanta ME and Quoting Digests Hey folks, I never write but I am anyway. Can't wait to see ME in Atlanta. Hey Lou, if you're out there, e-mail E and me, o.k.? E got tickets through the AJC, but we should meet and say hi! Other notes, Linda Perry isn't exactly my cup of tea. Can we say Annie Lenox with less originality, a voice that my grandmother had after smoking for thrity years and a really lousy CD cover. But I guess you have to have some respect for her. . . I still want ME on XENA, in leather armor, with a sword. Third, please, please, please don't quote entire digests. I want to read what everyone says, but I just skip people who quote HUGE blocks of text. My mailbox is insane as it is? Laura V> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:04:27 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: A Special Meeting with Melissa Kiva...Thanks for sharing YOUR special story of meeting with Melissa! I had tears running down my cheeks! You are a Special Person and Melissa is too! It makes my meetings with her nothing spectacular compared to yours! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:50:01 -0500 From: Loretta Myers Subject: Early Presidential Election Returns Early returns: YEEEHAW! And less than two weeks until Melissa comes to Houston. YEEEHAW! Okay, Dan, it's a celebration thing. Y'all come on down to the concert, now. Ya heah? Loretta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:50:08 -0500 From: Loretta Myers Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 4 Nov 1996 In a message dated 96-11-05 00:26:29 EST, you write: << Subject: TAMPA/Missy Missive: Be Brave, It's Long => >> Great review Jesse. It kind made me get all misty-eyed---and maybe just a little jealous. (I'll never get that close to her.) Re:Silent Legacy: I never really bought the story of that song being about a 14 year old girl having sex with her boyfriend, but it damned near ruined the song for me. Anyone else ever heard another story? Sometimes I think it's best if we can construct our own images and meaning to the songs. I'd still like to know who is in the taxi and what that song is about. Loretta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:04:16 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Who's nuts? On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Elaine noted: > Dan wrote: > >> and my wife thinks I'm nuts. > She just found this out? LOL! Elaine, you break me up! |-D FOF! Oof! Arghh! X-| -- Done ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:36:13 -0500 From: Taste Buddy Subject: Re: 20/20 I must ad myself to the list of people who, lost in some moronic state, forgot to set the VCR for the 20/20 episode. If anyone is willing to share, I'll pay tape & postage cost. Please e-mail me. I eagerly await a positive reply. Thanks all. TasteBuddy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:58:05 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Silent Legacy Loretta Myers responded to Jesse's Tampa review: >Re:Silent Legacy: I never really bought the story of that song being about >a 14 year old girl having sex with her boyfriend, but it damned near ruined >the song for me. Anyone else ever heard another story? I have taped at least two radio interviews with Melissa in which she says the song was inspired by her reading about a young girl being kicked out of her house for having sex with her boyfriend. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ She also stated it was the first song she wrote which was inspired by something *external* to her own experiences. >Sometimes I think it's best if we can construct our own images and >meaning to the songs. How true! I find it's easy for me to find personal references in her songs, especially her early songs about obsession. :) John Miller - weeks behind in my email ... will I ever catch up? San Jose CA ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 4 Nov 1996 to 5 Nov 1996 ************************************************ From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Wed Nov 6 15:42:19 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:41:37 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 5 Nov 1996 to 6 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:14:56 +0100 From: Yvonne Hendricks Subject: The weakness in me >One of my very favorites too..you can get another copy of Ain't Nothin But a >She Thing (love that title track too) from either your local record store, >or from Ladyslipper, found at http://www.ladyslipper.org/ >I don't believe the track has been released on any other CD, but I'm sure >somebody will correct me if I'm wrong . > I've got a bootleg at home and it's on that one too, (yes I know it's illegal, but hey in Holland, you don't have that much legal cd's of melissa other than her normal cds and singles,so...) But since I'm at work, and forgot the title of it I will Email it to the list as soon as I checked it out. Oke.. > BTW, does it sound to anybody >else like ME's version goes: 'Are you so strong, or is all the weakness in >me?', instead of 'Are you so strong, resolve the weakness in me' Dunno, but >I think I'm singing along all wrong It could be just my ears, but I do believe she's singing 'Are you so strong, or is all the weakness in me?. ciau bella (or bello if you're a guy) Yvonne Speak True M.E. Yvonne Hendricks TNO-TPD-TU Instrumentatie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 07:51:36 EST From: DOUG Subject: NMEC whatsoever! Greetings all. First to any of you who are Reba fan's - if you haven't gotten the new album yet - GO GET IT TODAY! In my opinion, it is the best album she has done since "For My Broken Heart" and is my second favorite behind the broken heart disc. The album has a whole new energy and is full of some great songs. With this album Reba has reestablished herself as the Queen of Country Music. Now to the election -Yahoo! Bill Clinton is president for four more! I believe everyone expected him to win, but not by as much as he did. I wish the Virginia Senate race could have gone as well. I cannot believe that the Commonwealth re-elected John Warner. Okay that's all. Have a great day! Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:54:57 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Fwd: my email account hates me Mary Harbaugh has asked me to forward her email to the list until she resolves her email problems with her internet service provider. Her temporary address is John Miller - starting work far too early this morning ------------------------------------------------------------------ To: multiple recipients of list MLETHER From: mary harbaugh Subject: my email account hates me hi, all, I wanted to let my email friends know that my email account crashed, so I am temporarily using the account: lostwomyn2@juno.com because my account hates me, if you've sent me anything in the past day (since 2am November 5th), I haven't received it :-( .... please have mercy on an email-less soul and, if possible, re-send it to my temporary address. thanks, and I really really really hope to be back to my regular addy in the next couple of days, mary http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/1827 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:07:15 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: new lil fact On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, edgy wrote: > One thing the 20/20 interview did reveal was the day that Julie and > Melissa met (when they were asked about anniversaries): August 23, 1988. > Not earth-shattering but a cold, hard fact for the FAQ :) Especially since most of the real info was recited at the end in banter between Barabara Walters and the reporter, lifted directly from the NEWSWEEK interview ("damn, *we* shoulda asked 'em that!"). :) -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:10:56 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Real Fan On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Elaine Naiman wrote: > Randy asked: > > >> If we don't voice those opinions, how is the artist going to get > >> any feedback? > > I know you've been told the meaning of Real Fan on this list but > do you really think that anybody shows Melissa the negative criticism > (other than her questionable fashion sense) that appears on this list > or the AOL board or wherever? I would be very surprised if she doesn't see it. And I'm sure folks in her management organization must, and if they don't print it out and hand it to her, they might still take it into account in their own decisions. -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:18:14 -0500 From: Deb Subject: NMEC: Politics On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, DOUG wrote: > Now to the election -Yahoo! Bill Clinton is president for four more! I really hoped he'd win by more. Let's hope his lame duck status will get him to do what he knows is right, instead of what will get him re-elected. > I believe everyone expected him to win, but not by as much as he > did. I wish the Virginia Senate race could have gone as well. I > cannot believe that the Commonwealth re-elected John Warner. You can thank me later. I think John Warner, as an experienced, moderate Republican, is a valuable resource in this Republican Congress. All Mark Warner did was express vague platitudes about being for education and the like. You'll have to offer more than that and attack ads against the opposition to convince me to vote for someone who's never held political office. If there's no voting record to look at (and Warner's is respectable in spite of some major differences I have with him), you'd better be detailed about your plans. But if it makes you feel any better, Tori cancelled out my vote. :) -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:39:56 -0500 From: Tei at netcom Subject: NewHampshire Listers hello hello tei here.... hey I was noticing more and more and more listers from the NewHampshire area... Vanessa and I were talking (another newhampshirite) and thought we might all call ourselves NHIB's (New Hampshire Inhibitants Bunch) Hailing Carol!!!!!!! from Nashua I here? I used to live in Nashua... and now I am in Amherst .... Any other NewHampshirites out there???? Get in touch!!! (Still Thinkin YEEEE HAWWW) 9 days and counting... the excitable, tei! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:40:27 EST From: DOUG Subject: (Fwd) Re: NewHampshire Listers Forwarded message: From: Self To: teiisme@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: NewHampshire Listers Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:34:27 EST Tei wrote ***hey I was noticing more and more and more listers from the NewHampshire ***area... Which reminded me of something. Hats off to New Hampshire for going not only Democrat in last night's election, but for also electing a woman as Governor. Maybe next year, a talented and qualified woman will challenge Gov. Allen in the Virginia election. Hey, Deb, you interested? 8-) Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:40:36 EST From: DOUG Subject: (Fwd) Re: NMEC: Politics Forwarded message: From: Self To: indigo@CLARK.NET Subject: Re: NMEC: Politics Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:31:33 EST Deb wrote: ***You can thank me later. I think John Warner, as an experienced, moderate ***Republican, is a valuable resource in this Republican Congress. So you're the one! 8-) In my opinion!!!!! John Warner is a putz who doesn't give a fig about all the people of Virginia, I mean he said himself that he didn't have time to bother with the little towns. Well, Mr. Warner it was the little towns that helped re-elect you too (although for the life of me I can't see why). The following is a true story about Mr. John Warner. A few months back he was at the dedication/opening of a new social security office. A woman there went to shake his hand and he said "No thank you, I just washed my hands." He needs to come back down to Earth and realize it is the common people who put him where he is. In all fairness, Deb you were right on the mark with what you said about both Warners, but I don't necessarily rely on voting records and past performance to cast my vote. I look at the person too. I will concede that John Warner hasn't been a bad Senator and Virginia is no worse for him being in office. ***But if it makes you feel any better, Tori cancelled out my vote. :) Woo-Hoo! Good for her! Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:43:19 EST From: "Vanessa A. Brown" Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: NewHampshire Listers --- You wrote: Which reminded me of something. Hats off to New Hampshire for going not only Democrat in last night's election, but for also electing a woman as Governor. --- end of quoted material --- And for a NH'ite born and raised (and even born and raised republican :o ) this is one major feat! It's a really exciting venture, we'll keep you informed on how she does!! Vanessa NH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:48:33 -0600 From: Kathryn Davis Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 4 Nov 1996 to 5 Nov 1996 Ok...I'm really excited to hear all of the talk about the Memphis and Atlanta shows! I'm going to both and cannot wait! Also, I'd love to hear more about the DC show because that's where I'm originally from and I visit my father there 5-6 times a year. You all going to the Memphis show that are from the DC area, drop me a line and I'll be happy to tell you what I know about Memphis. I live in North Alabama, but Memphis is only a 2 hour drive and we're planning on doing the "tour the city by day and go to a kick-ass show by night" thing too. I'd love to hear from you all! See you on the 13th and the 23rd! --- Melissa is God. kdavis@unaalpha.una.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:49:16 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Do Be Do Be Dooo... Hello everyone... =) Just wanted to say thank you to everyone who sent and posted such sweet things about my Melissa story. To Francie... Anyone who gets the chance to meet Melissa has a special memory to ho;d in their hearts... Mine had different circumstances than yours, but that doesn't make yours any less special sweetie! =) I am glad you got the chance to meet Melissa. And I hope that everyone who loves Melissa gets the opportunity to meet this wonderful woman... =) Sadly, I am also one of the poor souls that couldn't get 20/20 on video. I saw the show, but my vcr was sick that night... =( I have some great bootleg CD's and a few tapes. I am willing to trade for a copy of the 20/20 show and also do some trading with any listers who would like some great music! =) Happy to help anytime... =) Umm... I think that's about it... I won't babble on too long... Heh heh heh ;) Ohhhh... I remember now... Elaine mentioned that when she headed up to visit Carol in NH she stopped off in Boston. I used to live in Boston. I am in NY now... Anyway, to the point... =7 Mystery Train is not the best used record store... It's okay, but there is Nuggets on Commonwealth Ave in Kenmore Square. They have great stuff but I have yet to see a Melissa bootleg. And then there is a small store called Slipped Disk if I remember correctly. It's also on Commonwealth Ave. It's next to the Paradise club... Next to McDonalds and Store 24... It's downstairs and I got 2 of the BEST Melissa concerst on CD in that store. They have some cool stuff every now and then. It is definitly worth checking out... =) Okay, I am officially done now! =7 Bah-Bye... Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:50:39 EST From: Wendy Waterstrat Subject: Re: NewHampshire Listers Tei wrote: > hey I was noticing more and more and more listers from the NewHampshire > area... > Vanessa and I were talking (another newhampshirite) > and thought we might all call ourselves NHIB's (New Hampshire > Inhibitants Bunch) > > Hailing Carol!!!!!!! > from Nashua I here? > I used to live in Nashua... and now I am in Amherst .... > > Any other NewHampshirites out there???? Only for the past 24 years. Does that qualify me? How do I pronounce NHIBs? :) Wendy... from Nashua... congrats and good luck to our new woman Governor! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:57:09 EST From: "Vanessa A. Brown" Subject: Re: NewHampshire Listers Tei asked: > Any other NewHampshirites out there???? Wendy responded: Only for the past 24 years. Does that qualify me? How do I pronounce NHIBs? :) Wendy... from Nashua... congrats and good luck to our new woman Governor! Hi...this is really cool all these New Hampshirites. That makes 2 of you from Nashua (you and Carol Delk) one from Amherst (Tei), one from Sandown (Michelle Berube) and me from Lebanon (though originally from seacoast area). So, we are hereby dubbed NHIB's. I think the pronunciation could be fun, no? The New Hampshire Inhabitants Bunch!! Vanessa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:07:41 -0500 From: Betty Prioux Subject: MLE on Xena, the warrior princess Laura A. Vess wrote: > I still want ME on XENA, in leather armor, with a sword. What a GREAT idea! Someone has got to pass this idea on to people who can make this happen! Anyone with MLE or Xena contacts out there??? I can imagine MLE riding up on a big black horse and.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 08:01:48 -0800 From: "Amy J. Putnam" Subject: Re: NewHampshire Listers well, i grew up in NH..does that count? i'm still in new engaland. i hail fdrom claremont, jsut down river from hanover and lebanon. i'm psyched for shaheen, and bummed that smith and bass are gouing back to congress. oh well. _________ amy p. \ / Who holds your hand pegasus@crl.com \ / When you're alone monk@world.std.com \ / the original photo monk \ / --Patty Larkin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:29:00 EST From: "Ware, Lanette" Subject: THEY'RE BACK!!! CONGRATULATIONS to Hillary and Bill Clinton, now lets rock this village! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:31:29 -0500 From: Lauren Tag Subject: Cruising Connecticut Hi . It's Elaine , I'm at Lauren's now. I feel unloved...she doesn't chain me to her computer,unlike *someone*Hi Jan! We're about to leave to go make some major purchases with her daddy's plastic. Chocolate Central here we come! Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:43:55 -0500 From: David Johnson Subject: Re: new lil fact The FAQ, as well as lots of other info, is available at the official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ Glenna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:50:10 -0500 From: Sherry Sierra Subject: NMEC-Politics Doug wrote: Maybe next year, a talented and qualified woman will challenge Gov. Allen in the Virginia election. Hear, hear, Doug. Unfortunately, your neighbor West Virginia folded last night. Instead of electing Charlotte Pritt as our first female governor, we elected the oldest governor in WV history. Governor Cecil Underwood turned 74 yesterday and he's serving his second term as governor. His first started in 1956 when he was only 34. BTW, he was also the youngest governor in WV history. He only won by 6%. Pritt took the early lead and I was really hoping she would keep it. So you and I can both hope that the next elections will be better in both states. Doug also teased Deb with: Hey, Deb, you interested? 8-) I also second this. Sounds like a winner to me. Sherry -- "APPARENTLY, a village can raise a child, but not two Village People. A lot of Americans, including a judge down in Florida, think that handing a child to a wife-murdering father is better than giving the child to the biological lesbian mother. Sometimes a village is run by the idiots." -Rob Morse, Examiner Columnist ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:53:00 EST From: "Ware, Lanette" Subject: O.D.? Hey guys, long time no lurk. I don't know who initially wished that Linda OD but I agree with Rhonda in that it was DEFINITELY out of line. My God, wishing someone for dead is totally uncool. Drugs in this country is everyman's problem not just the users problem, the buyers problem OR the sellers problem. Please try and be more sensitive next time especially because unless you walk a mile in someone else's shoes, you'll NEVER know what their challenges are. Linda is someone's child, friend, sister, lover and deserves a full life just as you do even IF she makes mistakes and SLANDERS others. - HINT HINT - And besides, did you ever consider that Linda is probably THREATENED by ME? I mean we all know ME rules, but should Linda be wished for DEAD because of her insecurities where ME is concerned? I doubt it. Try and think before you speak next time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:20:44 -0500 From: Wendy Palmquist Subject: Re: NewHampshire Listers Okay, I can't stay out of this. There are more of us out here in NH! Though born in Syracuse, raised in Los Angeles, and resident of the states of Washington, Colorado, Missouri, Oregon, back to New York, off to a Canadian province, Manitoba, then again back to New York, I've settled in New Hampshire for the past 15 plus years. And there are more Melissa list people here, alas info only due to time and disk space! So I keep the rest up to date on list news of note. And regarding politics, yes for Shaheen...I just want the Nashua contingent to explain why Nashua went for Bass, not Arnie Arnesen! And we should be horrified that Bob Smith continues to represent us in the Senate...rated by the Congressional Quarterly as _the_ most conservative senator! Let's see what restrictions on gays he proposes in the next six years...sigh... Wendy Palmquist ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:24:55 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: VH-1 Storytellers Yes, yes, I know I've been almost silent on this list for weeks... too many work projects in crisis lately, and I'm weeks behind in my email. Fortunately, the work crisis is nearing an end and I will soon return to my normal list-chatter... Until them, I have a big request... my cable provider (TCI) doesn't think we need to see VH-1 after 4:00pm (Pacific) so most of us in the Bay Area will not see Melissa's 'storytellers' program this weekend. TCI appears to have a similar attitude in much of the rest of the U.S. so many on this list will not be able to see this program. I am willing to organize a tape tree for the Storytellers program provided I can get a clean complete master (from start-to-finish, including credits), in STEREO, recorded at 'SP' speed. If someone here can provide me with the tape, I will use my frame-by-frame video editing equipment to remove all ads, leaving only the complete show in its entirety, in stereo (my equipment also records a mono track, so my tapes play on both types of equipment)... in return, I will provide to the person supplying the Storytellers master a copy of *any* of my 10+ hours of Melissa material... plus a special rare surprise! If interested, please email me privately at: JMILLER@WDL.LMCO.COM John Miller - who will soon return to the land of the living San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:03:26 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: more music on TV Wow! My second post to the list in 40 minutes! For those who are interested, there is a lot of special music on TV this week. I've listed a small sample below... all times Eastern, check local listings for time in your area. Doug, note Reba is on tomorrow! ^^^^ Rosie's show is syndicated, so times will vary according to each local station's schedule, not time zone (like most network shows). WED 7:30 pm - MM - Much Music Spotlight: featured: the Dave Matthews Band (repeats at 11:30 pm) WED 7:30 pm - MM - Much Music Spotlight: featured: Rush, part 1/2 (repeats at 11:30 pm) THU 12:35 am - CBS - Tom Snyder: country singer Reba McEntire FRI 7:00 am - CBS - This Morning: guests include singer Joni Mitchell ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ FRI 0:00 am - SYN - Rosie O'Donnell: singer Chaka Khan FRI 7:30 pm - MM - Much Music Spotlight: featured: Rush, part 2/2 (repeats at 11:30 pm) SAT 7:00 pm - VH1 - Fillmore: 1972 film on the closing of Fillmore West features performances by Jefferson Airplane, Santana, the Grateful Dead, and others SAT 9:00 pm - VH1 - Best of Duets: highlights from the series include performances by Bryan Adams and Brian Setzer, Melissa Etheridge and Joan Osborne, John Hiatt and Matthew Sweet, Bruce Hornsby and Bob Weir (repeats at 1:00 am) SAT 9:30 pm - VH1 - Concert: rock group Heart in concert (30 minutes, details tba) SAT 10:00 pm - VH1 - Storytellers : singer Melissa Etheridge performs and discusses her songs; taped September 13 at L.A.'s Viper Room (one hour) John Miller ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:09:19 -0800 From: edgy Subject: VH1 Music News Just saw a bit on VH1 discussing the pregnancy. Seems the name will be Cypheridge. They said Austin was chosen as a first name because that's Julie's favorite city, that she went to film school at UT, etc. Allison "Beautiful strawberry blondes do have a way edgy@netcom.com of slipping in around the edges of reason." --L.T. (10/96)+r; ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:25:43 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: more music on TV John wrote ***Doug, note Reba is on tomorrow! ***THU 12:35 am - CBS - Tom Snyder: country singer Reba McEntire THANKS! I didn't know this. Monday night I happened to flip the tv to Jay Leno and she was just beginning to perform. Here's some more music notes of importance (at least to me): Next Tuesday - Reba is on Rosie's show AND Next Friday - Elton John is on Rosie! Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:29:00 CST From: Elizabeth Burns Subject: ME on Sesame Street For those of you interested, Sesame Street featuring Melissa Etheridge will air in Ausin, Texas and the surrounding area on 21 November. I spoke with someone at the local PBS station and she informed me that all the regions should show it on the same day since it's a new show. Apparently new shows air (or are supposed to) on the same day but reruns vary according to local schedules. This seems to correspond with the message that Tei posted earlier in the week about it airing in New Hampshire on 21 November. It airs here on KLRU (cable channel 9) at 8am and again at 2.30pm. I'm not sure if the later show is a rerun of the earlier show. But there's plenty of time to figure it out. C'ya! liz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:36:43 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: VH-1 Storytellers John so graciously offered: >>I am willing to organize a tape tree for the Storytellers program provided I can get a clean complete master (from start-to-finish, including credits), in STEREO, recorded at 'SP' speed.<< You know what? Remember Elise Kantor's Melissa compilation about a year and a half ago? It had Rock and Roll Roots, Unplugged, videos, etc, on two VCR tapes? It might be time, in fact, to put together a Melissa compilation Vol. 2, with Duets, Vh1-to-One, Dennis Miller, 20/20, Storytellers, YLS videos, and Sesame Street (when it airs). Providing I don't botch the last two things, I can put all of this on a master tape for John, if John will then organize the tape tree. How does this sound to everybody? John? Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:58:27 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: VH1 Music News ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Self To: edgy@NETCOM.COM Subject: Re: VH1 Music News Date sent: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:28:26 EST Allison wrote: ***Just saw a bit on VH1 discussing the pregnancy. Seems the name will be ***Cypheridge. They said Austin was chosen as a first name because that's ***Julie's favorite city, that she went to film school at UT, etc. *** At the risk of offending many of you - I have to say that I hate that name. Austin Cypheridge?????? Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 11:57:53 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: brad's not the dad and neither is bruce i was flipping through the channels this morning, when i happened upon VH1 vj's, amy scott and amy dorian (is that her name?), discussing MLE and julie, the pending pregnancy, and their 20/20 thingy. they showed a brief clip, which i'm assuming is from the "route 96" show, of MLE telling amy scott about julie's pregnancy. amy's reaction was great, especially her comment, "watch out middle america!" anyway, back to the amys...they were talking about how brad pitt, while a good friend, is not the daddy, and how bruce springsteen, also a good friend, is not the daddy. whoa, nellie! this was the first time that i'd ever heard bruce's name brought up in this context, so it made me think that the amys were just speculating. anyone else hear this previously? the amys also went on to say that the daddy is someone "in between" brad and bruce - "in between" brad and bruce in the fame continuum. hmmm...interesting. comments? *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:05:48 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: brad's not the dad and neither is bruce How bout Elton! heh. or dermot mulroney. or jeff goldblum? or me! Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:16:03 EST From: DOUG Subject: Who's the daddy? Well, Everybody wants to know who the daddy is and the mommies ain't talkin! Ponder something with me...maybe the mommies don't know...maybe they went to a sperm bank and made a withdrawal...okay ponder on your own now! Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:30:36 -0500 From: Loretta Myers Subject: "Good Morning America" Pooh, I retrieved my mail and your notice that we might see you on Good Morning America about an hour too late to watch it. What a disappointment. Were you on there? Maybe they will show it again sometime. Would love to see my favorite bear. You'd be the one with the bare bear feet because you couldn't find any Doc Martens, right? On the news last night they were saying that it was women who swung the vote to Clinton--or something like that. Makes me feel proud and powerful. Some of those right-wingers probably think we shouldn't even have the vote. Counting the days now until Melissa gets to Houston if the good Lord's willin' and the creeks don't rise. Just thought I'd throw in a little Texas or southern talk for y'all. Loretta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:35:45 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: brad's not the dad and neither is bruce -Reply >>> Rhondda Ashby 11/06/96 02:57pm >>> writes: >the amys also went on to say that the daddy is someone >"in between" brad and bruce - "in between" brad and bruce >in the fame continuum. >hmmm...interesting. comments? "My vote is for Michael Jackson. Just too much of a cowinky dink that his kid is due "just after the first of the year." It's all a big conspiracy I tell you! He couldn't get Lisa Marie to bear his children, so he turned to other celebrity figures! He offered Julie $500K to have his baby and she took him up on it because Missy is too cheap to shell out Big Bucks Buying Bowling Balls and Julie is addicted! It'll all come out in a big Enquirer scandal! The show-biz world will be rocked! What is this world coming to? Hollywood will never the sa--....." "Oh." "Never mind." Emily L. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:40:15 GMT From: Maggie at avalon Subject: Re: VH-1 Storytellers Joyce wrote: >John so graciously offered: >>I am willing to organize a tape tree for the >Storytellers program provided >I can get a clean complete master (from start-to-finish, including credits), >in STEREO, recorded at 'SP' speed.<< > >You know what? Remember Elise Kantor's Melissa compilation about a year and >a half ago? It had Rock and Roll Roots, Unplugged, videos, etc, on two VCR >tapes? It might be time, in fact, to put together a Melissa compilation Vol. >2, with Duets, Vh1-to-One, Dennis Miller, 20/20, Storytellers, YLS videos, >and Sesame Street (when it airs). > >Providing I don't botch the last two things, I can put all of this on a >master tape for John, if John will then organize the tape tree. > >How does this sound to everybody? John? I agree! Especially since I'm stuck with TCI cable too, and will miss Storytellers. I'd actually prefer a shorter, ~2 hour compilation of stuff for the tree, so that the tapes can be copied at SP speed. This vastly improves the quality, particularly on 2nd generation copies. How about Storytellers, and either Duets or a mix of 20/20, Sesame Street, and videos? There already was a tree for Dennis Miller. I could be a branch for this as well. Maggie ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 5 Nov 1996 to 6 Nov 1996 - Special issue **************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Wed Nov 6 23:23:52 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:23:11 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 6 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:48:50 -0500 From: Colleen Lanthrip Subject: Elaine I have a question for Elaine (of the notorious Jan & Elaine). Would you stop traveling so I can ask? E-mail me privately. Thanks Colleen (from the DC gathering) PS: Hello Shel (waving furiously across the miles). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:17:23 -0500 From: "Eidel Lisa Consultant (Temp)" Subject: Hi everyone! I'm not sure if this was mentioned or not. Forgive me if I am repetitive. There is a Melissa mention in the Nov. 8th issue of Entertainment Weekly on page 12. It's in Jim Mullen's Hot Sheet - What the country is talking about this week... #10 Melissa Etheridge - She and her girlfriend plan to name their child Austin. Their second choice was Akron. Just wanted to pass this along. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:20:00 -0500 From: Carol Delk Subject: NHIB's and a few random things First, a quick hello to Lauren and Elaine. (Really Laur; you let her get *more* chocolate? ;) ) >tei here.... >hey I was noticing more and more and more listers from the NewHampshire >area... >Vanessa and I were talking (another newhampshirite) >and thought we might all call ourselves NHIB's (New Hampshire >Inhibitants Bunch) I liked this so much I laughed my way out of lurkdom. :) >Hailing Carol!!!!!!! >from Nashua I here? >I used to live in Nashua... and now I am in Amherst .... Yes-sir-ree, I'm in Nashua, and my opinion about the good people of NH's musical tastes has just been changed dramatically. ;) Perhaps it's just that the good people of NH don't enjoy MLE at # 10 on the stereo's volume at 3 am in the morn? Poor Nashuans haven't caught a wink since YIA came out... Doug: >Which reminded me of something. Hats off to New Hampshire for going >not only Democrat in last night's election, but for also electing a >woman as Governor. Not even that; hats off to us for picking someone based on their qualifications rather than their party lines! Jeanne Shaheen seems to be a really good egg; I hope she does well. Kira said: >in NY now... Anyway, to the point... =7 Mystery Train is not the best used >record store... It's okay, but there is Nuggets on Commonwealth Ave in >Kenmore Square. They have great stuff but I have yet to see a Melissa >bootleg. And then there is a small store called Slipped Disk if I remember Forget Elaine ;), next time I go down I'll check them out; thank you. :) Wendy wrote: >Only for the past 24 years. Does that qualify me? How do I >pronounce NHIBs? :) > >Wendy... from Nashua... congrats and good luck to our new woman Governor! Now there's a shocker--I always think of people on these lists as living far away, like Australia, and for all I know I've sat in Bickfords in the table next to a Lister. Another Wendy wrote: >Okay, I can't stay out of this. There are more of us out here in NH! Hello, hello, and the same for the info-only NHIB's as well! >And regarding politics, yes for Shaheen...I just want the Nashua contingent to >explain why Nashua went for Bass, not Arnie Arnesen! Hey; I can't vote yet. But if you want some rationale take this: Arnie was the most charismatic candidate, and very intelligent. However, she was for even higher taxes and a more socialist form of government. I'm a Democrat, but a moderate one. >And we should be >horrified that Bob Smith continues to represent us in the Senate...rated by the >Congressional Quarterly as _the_ most conservative senator! Let's see what >restrictions on gays he proposes in the next six years...sigh... I like to think of it this way: someday, there's going to be another war, and America is going to need to be defended. And as all the homophobic people ship off to risk *their* lives to protect *my* rights, I will wave them a fond farewell and promise to comfort their wives during their long absence. ;) Seriously though, I think I can shoot a gun and die for my country just as well as a straight woman--so why the fuss? I *loved* the Michael Jackson storyline that was posted; I wonder who'll cover it first, the Globe or the Enquirer? As for MLE's "new" last name: Hey, I could get used to it. I like the idea behind combining names; it's more binding somehow. Off to tape some boots, Carol of the New Hampshire Inhabitants Bunch ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:22:57 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: The father of baby Austin Hi guys, I have always assumed that the father of the baby was not known even to the moms. Or that they had the information and wuld give it to their child later on, but that they actually didn't know the father. That he was a donor, I mean. To think that it was a celebrity, I thought that was just something we were tossing around as a cute joke. Now I read that it might be someone who's celebrity status falls between Brad and Bruce. Are they having us guess? I think they should just not give us clues or anything. It's probably someone we don't even know and so to be cool to the baby, I don't think we should know. After all, the father's name might mean nothing to us. And if it did it still doesn't seem right to know. But I can understand the curiousity though. The name Austin Cypheridge may take some getting used to, but it's fair. As someone mentioned, the mom that is not pregnant doesn't always get the same amount of credit for being the parent. I like the list because we always get news like the name and stuff first. See y'all later, Carol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:23:45 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re: VH-1 Storytellers Maggie at avalon responded to Joyce's tapetree idea: >I agree! Especially since I'm stuck with TCI cable too, and will miss >Storytellers. I'd actually prefer a shorter, ~2 hour compilation of stuff >for the tree, so that the tapes can be copied at SP speed. This vastly >improves the quality, particularly on 2nd generation copies. Elise's original compilation was also recorded at SP speed for the same reason... it makes much better copies for subsequent generations, so in order to get all of Elise's 'vol 1' compilation required TWO tape blanks. [ Elise! I miss you! ] >How about Storytellers, and either Duets or a mix of 20/20, Sesame Street, >and videos? There already was a tree for Dennis Miller. Joyce and I have briefly chatted about this, and I have some additional material I think most on the list would like, but which isn't generally available to most list-members... to get all of it on tape would require more than one tape at SP speed... probably two tapes, just as Elise's wonderful compilation... after Joyce and I talk more about it, perhaps we can present a proposed 'package' to the list. I'd be happy to coordinate a tapetree for a two-tape compilation after the year-end holiday season is over (and Melissa's west coast tour ends). John Miller - looking forward to Melissa at the Cow Palace... moo! PS: Egad! three posts-to-the-list in one day... pretty good for someone who has been held captive by his employer for weeks! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:25:47 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Off To The Woods! :) Hello Melisters! Just a quickie! :) I just love saying that! :) Ho! Hum! Back to earth. Well, I am off starting tomorrow (Thurs.) through next Monday as it is Veterans day. Just wanted to drop a line before I head for them there hills and the quiet of the woods. It is because we are a free country that I have the woods to go home to and enjoy. And it is because of those that fought and gave their lives and honor and dignity that we all enjoy many things we take for granted every day. As I reflect on those lost giving me my freedom be it by choice or not I have to ponder these few things. Would I be so brave to face such odds. Would I stand up and face danger for those I love or those I have never met. Could I sweep a village of mines and risk my life just so people can hang out their wash and return to their homes once more allowing their children to play in a field nearby. This is what Hillary says a marine told her they witnessed once their job had been done and now they know why they are there for where there was once silence there is the sound of children at play. Could I be so brave and willing. Fortunately I don't have to find out because we live in a free country because of the many who took on the task for us. Today I am grateful and give thanks. Take a moment on Monday and give thanks and remember all the vets living and gone and know we are blessed and so should they be. Sincerely, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:10:00 EST From: Wendy Waterstrat Subject: Re: NHIB's and a few random things Carol of the NHIB wrote: > >Wendy... from Nashua... > > Now there's a shocker--I always think of people on these lists as living far > away, like Australia, and for all I know I've sat in Bickfords in the table > next to a Lister. So I should wear a lister shirt every time I go to Bickford's! :) Well, since I only go there once in a while anyway that wouldn't be a problem. Except that I don't HAVE a lister shirt, so I'll have to sew something up in a jiffy next time I decide to go out for breakfast. But then I could miss listers at lunch or dinner or out on the town so I guess I shouldn't leave home without one meaning a whole wardrobe of shirts will be required. I'd better get busy. Couldn't we just do something that doesn't have to be laundered and I can wear every day like a secret ME decoder ring or something? > As for MLE's "new" last name: > Hey, I could get used to it. I like the idea behind combining names; it's > more binding somehow. It will take some adjusting to for all of us, and ME & Julie too I suppose. They must have had a hard time deciding what combination to use, and try as I might, I couldn't come up with anything better than what they did. Wendy (who's hungry but will have to go find something in the fridge at home because she couldn't possibly go out to eat 'unclothed' again) "I believe we can fly on the wings that we create" - MLE ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:04:51 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: ME home state Hi Everyone, I made a mistake earlier. I sometimes confuse Janis and ME facts. Janis Joplin was born in Port Arthur, Texas, and Melissa in Leavenworth, Kansas. Thanks to Amy for pointing that out to me. By the way, I read a little something on ME and JC in Entertainment Weekly, (it's nothing new though, just a dumb joke). It's a little note in Jim Mullen's Hot Sheet, number 10, actually. It says, "Melissa Etheridge, She and her girlfriend plan to name their child Austin. Their second choice was Akron." Ha ha. In know, it's not very funny. but it's Melissa realted and I hadn't seen it on the page yet. Thought I'd tell ya. Bye Folks, Carol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:08:43 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: lister shirts On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Wendy Waterstrat wrote: > > be a problem. Except that I don't HAVE a lister shirt, so I'll have to > sew something up in a jiffy next time I decide to go out for breakfast. Has anyone thought of doing a "lister"shirt? I remember the thing with the bowling shirts and that seemed pretty popular. What about the idea of an ME shirt w/ some cheesy techy looking lister thing on it. I thought the bowling shirts were a cool idea but being a 21 year old male, that just isn't allowed =). I certainly would be interested in that. Just a thought. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:49:51 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: Off To The Woods! :) Jane Vaughn wrote: > Today I am grateful and give thanks. > > Take a moment on Monday and give thanks and remember all the vets living and > gone and know we are blessed and so should they be. POOH, thank YOU. Your post left me teary eyed. I don't mean to toot my own horn, but sometimes the posts from all of 'my' friends on this list hit closer to home than many of you realize. My son is in Bosnia right now...his job? clearing mine fields. And I'm sure there are others on this list with sons, daughters, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, cousins, wives, husbands, friends...who are in the Armed Services of this great country...Please remember them on Veterans Day. And don't forget the RESERVISTS who are ready at a moments' notice. Thank you Shirl. -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:56:55 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: Going home with Melissa Goodnight, I'm leaving work now. I just wanted to let the ME Listers know that I'll be running out this door and putting on my headphones to rock to LTWID, with ciggy in mouth. I can't wait, and what's best is I know a bunch of people who totally understand me when I say this. So Cool. Anyhow, goodnight friends. Oh, Ellen is on tonight, should be funny. Don't miss it! (Well, really it's up to you) Carol Carol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:17:21 +0000 From: Dave Jackson Subject: "Romeo and Juliet" (NMEC) Hi everyone! :) This is _totally_ off topic, so please feel free to use your delete key as desired. I know that these posts are discouraged, but I truly am unknowing as where to turn for assistance, and from being a member of the Melissa Etheridge Mailing List since early June, I know that there are many who would be willing to lend a helping hand. I recently viewed the movie William Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet" and was amazed. It is truly the _best_ film I have ever seen. I do not use that description loosely, as I do love all kinds of movies, including comedies, dramas, actions and thrillers. (I must confess, I can not stomach horror films. *blush*) Yet, "Romeo and Juliet" has touched my heart in a way no other film ever has. I was surprised, as I do not consider myself to be the "mushy, romantic type", but was totally enthralled by the conviction of Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes in the title roles. It was *amazing* and, although some may have criticisms, this is my personal favourite of all movies I have viewed. The above is some background information so you are able to grasp just how much I love the movie. Here is my current dilemma, and would appreciate it if someone could help me out: As promotion for the movie, Romeo and Juliet postcards have been inserted into the November issue of five widely-received magazines. These magazines are: YM, GLAMOUR, ELLE, MADAMOISELLE and SEVENTEEN. These tear-off postcards are located in pairs, and each magazine is given a specific postcard "couple". 2 postcards x 5 magazines = 10 postcards in all. Thus far, I have six of the ten available Romeo and Juliet postcards, and strongly wish to complete my collection, for the postcards so beautifully depict scenes which I would love to capture. I have: -Romeo/Juliet (located in SEVENTEEN) -Violence/Passion (located in ELLE) -Vengeance/Forgiveness (located in MADAMOISELLE) I am in need of: -Despair/Hope -Love/Death Two of these postcards are located in GLAMOUR, while the remaining two are in YM (Young & Modern). [I am not sure which ones are where]. I have been unsuccessful in locating the postcards in these two magazines, although I *have* found the correct issues -- without the postcards. Curious and disappointed, I contacted www.romeoandjuliet.com (who has an excellent website, BTW) where I asked them about the missing postcards from the correct issues. This site is where I originally found out about the existence of the postcards. They replied, stating that before the issues were sent to stores people stole the some of the postcards. As a result, not all postcards were available for circulation. :( This is where I come to you, fellow listers, for support and assistance. November issues are currently being depleted from stores, in favour of the upcoming issues, which leaves me unable to attain the postcards I need. Do you happen to know of a (legal) method with which I can obtain the desired issues -- *complete* with postcards? Is there a place I can order backissues? Have any of you seen the above postcards? I am grateful for any help you can offer. This may seem like a trivial, insignificant manner, but movies offer consolation, support and reassurance to me. It is import to receive such warm feelings, even from external sources. For all of you who have read this far, you have my heartfelt thanks. I wouldn't bother taking up bandwith unless this was really important to me. Thank you for your time, patience, and understanding. Sincerely, Lisa Jackson P.S. I am sending a duplication of this message to the other mailing lists I belong to, so I apologize if this post comes across as impersonal. That is not my intention. ************************************************** LEONARDO DICAPRIO CLAIRE DANES "...of young Juliet and her Romeo." -William Shakespeare LEONARDO DICAPRIO CLAIRE DANES ************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:56:41 -0600 From: Pam Crago Subject: Tampa Pics Hi everyone, Ok I got the pics back from the Tampa trip today. They are really good ladies. The one from Bennigans came out great. Thank goodness the ones of the concert came out because Pensacola will not let cameras in. If any of you from the trip want copies email me. Oh and Jackie nice tattoo . The lady at the store liked it too. It was great to meet you all and too bad you can't make it to Pensacola. I will think of you all on Thursday night oh and Saturday in New Orleans too....lol. Well I will go back to lurking.. Pam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:12:53 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Cameras sneaked into Dean Dome NC Anyone ever done it? I am not so well endowed that I could get a 35mm camera into my 'clothes'. How am I gonna get pics? HELP! -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:37:48 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: cypheridge Doug wrote: ML>At the risk of offending many of you - I have to say that I hate that ML>name. Austin Cypheridge?????? I like it. I've been fiddling with combinations of their 2 last names ever since I heard they were gonna do that, and the best combination I came up with is Cypheridge. Try it. Etherpher doesn't work, or Ethpher, or Cyphidge. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:50:04 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: etc We may be done with these 2 topics, but since I just got brave enough to start putting in my 2 cents: I love that she uses the Ultrasound image also. (Tho I haven't seen her concert yet...or ever...but I have tickets for Tacoma, Portland, SD, and LA). My brother carried a photo of his daughter's Ultrasound in his wallet, like the first picture of his kid, y'know? Maybe it helps her feel closer while she's away. And...about Melissa's clothes: aren't rock and rollers s'posed to dress kinda funky? And I don't know 'bout y'all, but around here the stereotype holds generally true: it's the gays males who have all the fashion sense. ; ) But then I'm just one of those women who like comfortable shoes, jeans and T-shirt. Dressing up for me means chinos. And it's a rilly big deal if the chinos are ironed. I know I'm not on TV, but there's so much about Melissa that I identify with, I guess this is just another (tho she might not necessarily agree about the shoes?!). -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:02:34 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: Off To The Woods! : Your post braught back memories of serving during Desert Storm...I can vividly recall being awaken many a night in the Saudi Desert by the sound of incoming Iraqi Scud missle sirens, running as fast I could for to the nearest bunker, sitting for what seemed like hours for the All Clear siren to wail indicating the Patriot missles had done there job. Your beautiful post is remembrance enough for me as to why I would proudly serve my country again if need be. > Would I be so brave to face such odds. > > Would I stand up and face danger for those I love or those I have never met. > > Could I be so brave and willing. I don't doubt for a moment that you would be so brave. Peace, Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 6 Nov 1996 - Special issue ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Thu Nov 7 21:24:36 1996 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:23:56 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 6 Nov 1996 to 7 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:19:28 -0600 From: "D. Caffrey" Subject: 20/20 / Amanda Marshall Hi everyone! I have been away from my computer for a few days & I am really behind on my digests. I did see a few requests for copies of the 20/20 segment. I recorded it & would be happy to copy it for those who don't have it yet. E-mail me privately if you're interested. Also, I would just like to say a big "Thank You!" to all the people on the list who mentioned how great Amanda Marshalls music was. I had never heard of her before & her CD caught my eye as I was browsing through a store. It was only 8 dollars (I can't pass up a bargain!) so I grabbed it along with a Janis Joplin CD : 18 essential hits (or something like that). I love impulse buying! I was really impressed with Amanda Marshalls musical style & her powerful voice. It's really nice to hear new music & actually like it! :) Thanks to everyone for telling me about her music & if you haven't listened to her, it is really worth it. Back to lurkdom...... Diane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:05:43 EST From: Shel Kilts <70412.2152@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: Off To The Woods! :) Pooh said: > Take a moment on Monday and give thanks and remember all the vets living > and gone and know we are blessed and so should they be. As one of those veterans (6 years active Army, 3 years National Guard), I thank you for your kind and caring words, Pooh. When I am confronted with the idiotic regulations that say that I am not worthy to serve, regardless of my technical expertise, simply because I choose to love another woman, it's words like these from people like you that remind me why I don't just take the easy way out, claim disability, and sit back and relax. Shel Shel Kilts | I've seen the way you look away 70412.2152@compuserve.com | When you think I might see | You say I scare you silly - | That's reacting sensibly. | - Emma Bull, "Wear My Face" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:46:53 +0200 From: Jo Young Subject: .02cents on a few THANGS! I've been away for a while, on honeymoon, to be precise!! Anyway - there's a coupla thangs I'd like to reply too... Cypheridge Baby - do they know what sex the baby is? Austin is a different name, I like it! Ultrasound - (we call them scans here) - anyway I have had four and already they are in my "Baby Album" I am currently carrying around my 18 week scan - I think it is nice that Melissa is proud enough to put it on her backdrop. Would anyone have minded if it was a flower about to bloom or a chick about to hatch - I think not!! The weakness in me - I have the 'ain't nothing but a she thing" CD and I am certain that Melissa sings "are you so strong OR IS ALL the weakness in me". Is 20/20 that news programme - kinda like 60 minutes? - we sometimes get segments from 20/20 on a local programme called Carte Blanche - I would love to see the interview. Just to let you know how behind we are here - I only got to see the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame opening last week! - Of course, the trusty VCR was out to tape all of ME' performance. Thank you for listening to my ramblings. TTFN Jo "Someone's gonna have to explain it to me, I'm not sure what it means, My baby's feeling funny in the mornings, She's having trouble getting into her jeans. Her waistline seems to be expanding Although she never feels like eating a thing, I guess we'll reach some understanind When we see what the future will bring" Jackson Brown - "Ready or Not" (1974) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:30:34 +0100 From: Yvonne Hendricks Subject: 20/20 This was written: First off I wanna apologize for my late reply, I'm a bit behind my reading so.. Secondly, I wish I could've seen this 20/20 "thang", but since I live in The Netherlands I don't even know the show, let alone the host. So I have to go on what you write about it. So, now my reply.. >Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:46:27 -0600 >From: "Cindy S. Hughey" >Subject: 20/20 > >Just have to admit that the line in the interview, "Yes >they know that the child may be straight and the accept that.", really >irked me. Would anyone have ever said this about a hetrosexual cople, >i.e. "they know the child might be gay and they accept that????". > You know, that is what bugs me too. Somehow people think that a heterosexual couple is more capable of raising a child than a homosexual couple. Let me tell them that a same sex couple have to make a consious choise to have a baby, as we all know nature has it's limits..This means TMHO that the child they want is more then welcome.. before I stick my foot i'm not getting into hetero sexuals having childeren. Let me reply with saying that most lesbians and gays have been born from heterosexual couples. So maybe we should ask the question mentioned above. Anyway...I think it's stupid to ask that question to any couple. Why?? Because we want to be accepted by our parents (as being gay. (WHOOHH Stop I know not everybody on the list is gay...I'm just speaking from my point of view..)) So why would a homosexual couple not accept that their child is straight... Anyway, it's difficult enough to raise a child, let alone when you're homosexual. And it's difficult enough for the child. So why make it even more complicated. Just let it be..you know. The child is in a family were it is wanted, that should be enough. That's what I wanted to say. Hello and goodbye. btw. I'm still jealous of you americans, with Melissa's tour and all. Since I have to wait for a looonnng time to be able to see her show in Holland. With Julie and the baby and all. Speak True M.E. Yvonne Hendricks TNO-TPD-TU Instrumentatie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 04:23:22 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: Elanor McEvoy Hi, all, Just saw a video on VH1 by Elanor McEvoy. The song's name was "Precious Little;" I think it came from her '96 album called "Who's Following me?" Anybody ever hear of her/her CD? - mary who, after about 13 hours at her computer, *finally* debugged the damn thing- my regular email address is up again lostwomyn@juno.com thanks for forwarding my email, John! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:22:32 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re: Eleanor McEvoy Mary Harbaugh wrote: >Just saw a video on VH1 by Elanor McEvoy. The song's name was "Precious >Little;" I think it came from her '96 album called "Who's Following me?" >Anybody ever hear of her/her CD? I believe it's "What's Following Me?". It's her second release and she recently toured much of the U.S. promoting it, including a stop at SLIM's in San Francisco during late August (which I missed). She's well known in Ireland and both of her CD's can be purchased through CD-NOW. I have heard only two songs on a local independent radio station, but I liked what I heard... wish I had checked out her live show, as tickets were probably about $10 in a venue of about 400. John Miller - still burning the midnight oil San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:34:04 GMT From: Elaine Naiman Subject: names/images/being sneaky Eidel Lisa Consultant reported: >> #10 Melissa Etheridge - She and her girlfriend plan to name their >> child Austin. Their second choice was Akron. Good thing their favourite city isn't Placentia, Newfoundland. Carol Andredesz wrote: >> ME had a bigger label than Linda started out with and I am sure >> they advised her not to come out, (I mean, she looks like a band >> member from Heart on the back of one of her earlist CD's), don't >> tell me that Melissa choose that look. I was clearly created for >> her by her PR people. If you're referring to "Never Enough", she says the look was her idea. >> And though Melissa could have protested, I think she was just >> stoked to have a cool record deal. By the time of "Never Enough" she'd had that deal for 6 years. And although not all that successful saleswise in the US, she was successful in other countries, won awards in other countries and had grammy nominations. She'd probably have had enough clout to say "no" to an image change that she didn't want if she didn't want it. Carol asked: >> a quick hello to Lauren and Elaine. (Really Laur; you let >> her get *more* chocolate? ;) ) Remember, there's no such thing as too much chocolate. Randy asked: >> Subject: Cameras sneaked into Dean Dome NC >> Anyone ever done it? Not into the Dean Dome but into several other venues. You could develop a bad cold on the day of the show that requires you to have a large kleenex box. Take out some kleenex, put camera in, put kleenex back. Put kleenex box in backpack/purse/whatever you carry. When backpack/purse is checked, all security will see is the kleenex box. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:07:25 -0500 From: Lab Rat Subject: Re: Do Be Do Be Dooo... Kiva Wrote: > > Mystery Train is not the best used > record store... It's okay, but there is Nuggets on Commonwealth Ave in > Kenmore Square. They have great stuff but I have yet to see a Melissa > bootleg. And then there is a small store called Slipped Disk if I remember > correctly. It's also on Commonwealth Ave. It's next to the Paradise club... > Next to McDonalds and Store 24... It's downstairs and I got 2 of the BEST > Melissa concerst on CD in that store. They have some cool stuff every now and > then. It is definitly worth checking out... =) Cd spins on Newbury St is worth checking out too. I have managed to pick up three cd's there. Sharon ______________________________________________________________________________ Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind. -Kipling ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:10:13 -0500 From: Lab Rat Subject: Re: NewHampshire Listers On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Wendy Waterstrat wrote: > Only for the past 24 years. Does that qualify me? How do I > pronounce NHIBs? :) I suggest make the H silent....be the NIBS. : ) Sharon ______________________________________________________________________________ Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind. -Kipling ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:41:30 EST From: DOUG Subject: (Fwd) Re: cypheridge Forwarded message: From: Self To: Marcy Kunst ,Betasurely@METRO.LESBOIS.COM, Subject: Re: cypheridge Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:32:48 EST In response to my saying that I hated the name Austin Cypheridge, Marcy wrote: ***I like it. I've been fiddling with combinations of their 2 last names ***ever since I heard they ***were gonna do that, and the best combination I came up with is ***Cypheridge. Try it. ***Etherpher doesn't work, or Ethpher, or Cyphidge. Okay, first I don't like the name Austin all that much...but the last name is kinda bad to...IMHO. How about Cypher-Etheridge? just a thought, besides it is their kid. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:30:21 -0500 From: Julia Fain Subject: Gay Weddings on Turning Point Just a reminder....tonight on Turning Point... Getting to the heart of gay weddings Good Morning America's Elizabeth Vargas reports on same-sex marriages in Thursday night's Turning Point. The segment profiles four couples on one of the political season's more hot-button issues. In one vignette, Vargas interviews a sibling who disapproves of her older sister's lesbian wedding on religious grounds. Another subplot concerns whether ABC camera crews will be allowed inside an Episcopal church. The rector says his church doesn't want to appear to sanction what seems to be a traditional wedding. ********************************* Also, I love the idea of another ME compilation for the tape tree. I missed out on the last one, and would love a chance to be in on this one...go Jim and Joyce!!!! Julia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:14:24 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: 20/20, LA, Brad's new movie On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Yvonne Hendricks wrote: > >Just have to admit that the line in the interview, "Yes > >they know that the child may be straight and the accept that.", really > >irked me. Would anyone have ever said this about a hetrosexual cople, I might be missing something here but I thought that statement from 20/20 was an interesting turn on the typical line of questioning concerning gay parents (i.e. "what if the children turn out gay?"). I can see how 20/20's question can be offensive but I was caught by their refusal to ask that question and instead ask the one they did. And yes, I can and have seen straight couples asked (a billion times) about how they would feel if their child were gay. By the way, for those interested, Brad Pitt's new movie is a romantic gay comedy. Julio Iglesias Jr plays Brad's love interest. I guess those pool parties at Melissa and Julie's have made their mark. And, anyone know when LA tix go on sale to the public? I wasn't planning on going but since it's the last show for years, I thought there might be some sentimental moments. And maybe Ellen will show again :) Allison "Beautiful strawberry blondes do have a way of edgy@netcom.com coming in around the edges of reason." --L.T. (10/96) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:18:56 -0600 From: Janis Delmonte Subject: Re: Gay Weddings on Turning Point > Just a reminder....tonight on Turning Point... Okay, here is my 15 seconds of fame (possibly). The crew was at the Dallas Gay and Lesbian Wedding Fair, where there were vendors and a fashion show. Actually the fashion show was run fairly poorly and I'm hoping it doesn't look *too* bad. Anyway, look for me in the background at the show. I'll be the one with blonde wavy hair laughing my head off with my friends. :-) See Ya, Janis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:02:41 EST From: "Diane M. Brundige" Subject: SMEC(kinda): Turning Point Heads up alert (for those interested): Tonight's Turning Point will have something about Same Sex Marriage. I saw it advertised last night on T.V. That's all I know (well, all I know about the show ;) ) KIP, Diane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:53:55 -0800 From: "Sheri Yamada (Entex)" Subject: Re: SMEC(kinda): Turning Point There's also a write up about the show in today's USA Today, Life section. Happy day to all! Peace, Sheri v-ntxsy@microsoft.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:18:06 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: Oh testify girl! Hi Everyone, I just wanted to relate a recent experience with my personal cd player. I use it in my car when I drive to and from work, (which is pretty much all the driving I do), and I get to enjoy Melissa real intense man! Oh oh, I'm getting too excited, I just wanted to TESTIFY! I wear my little yellow headphones, with the console part in my lap so that it doesn't skip too much, and I enjoy it so damn much! Try increasing the bass on a personal unit, Melissa will blow your pants off! That's fun when you're just going to work anyway...hee hee. I've had her first album in the player for a long time now, but it seems everytime I pull up somewhere Melissa is in the middle of a heart-wrenching verse. It's like I pull into the parking space, the car is off, but Melissa has not yet finished explaining that 'there will never be anything newewewew'...oh..so beautiful. It breaks my heart to take off those headphones, and I knew you all would understand. Just wanted to testify. Love, Carol ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:41:04 -0600 From: Patty Wilcox Subject: Off to the Woods Pooh, that was a wonderful, wonderful post in observance of Veterans Day. Coming from a military family and now loving someone in the military, I've come to know and deeply respect those that serve and protect our country so that we can enjoy the freedoms of life, such as attending a MLE concert or posting to this list. A big "THANKS" to all our brave soldiers for keeping the American dream alive and kicking. Keep Rockin' and Always Take a Stand! Roxy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:31:47 -0500 From: MS MICHELLE R BERUBE Subject: NHIB Hello. :) Yep. As Vanessa said, you can add me to the NHIB. I was raised in Salem, NH and now live in Sandown. Did any of the NHIB catch Melissa in August at the Fleet Center or on Portland ME? I went to both. 12th row in Boston and 4th row in Portland, courtesy of MEIN. Michelle NH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 12:58:24 EST From: "Vanessa A. Brown" Subject: Re: NHIB --- Michelle Berube wrote: Hello. :) Yep. As Vanessa said, you can add me to the NHIB. I was raised in Salem, NH and now live in Sandown. Did any of the NHIB catch Melissa in August at the Fleet Center or on Portland ME? I went to both. 12th row in Boston and 4th row in Portland, courtesy of MEIN. Michelle NH --- end of quoted material --- Being up north a bit and closer to I-91 and I-89, I took in the Essex Junction, VT show and the UMass, Amherst show. My seats were just as good and as I posted before, I got to enjoy the handshake type thing that she does with people at the stage for the second time. It was fabulous. Which reminds me. We go to see her in Maine, Vermont, Mass, Conn, NY....she's never played NH has she? I know we have no stadium fitting at this point, but even in her early days, I don't remember her ever playing here. Jog my memory if I'm wrong! Vanessa (Another of the New Hampshire Inhabitants Bunch!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:10:25 EST From: Wendy Waterstrat Subject: Re: NHIB Michelle Berube wrote about the Boston concert: > Hello. :) > > Yep. As Vanessa said, you can add me to the NHIB. I was raised in > Salem, NH and now live in Sandown. Did any of the NHIB catch Melissa > in August at the Fleet Center or on Portland ME? I went to both. > 12th row in Boston and 4th row in Portland, courtesy of MEIN. > > Michelle > NH Michelle, were you left, right or center? And that's not a political question. I was 13th row far left at Boston if you're facing the stage. Was I almost right behind you? Vanessa wrote on whether ME ever played in NH: > Being up north a bit and closer to I-91 and I-89, I took in the Essex Junction, > VT show and the UMass, Amherst show. My seats were just as good and as I > posted before, I got to enjoy the handshake type thing that she does with > people at the stage for the second time. It was fabulous. Which reminds me. > We go to see her in Maine, Vermont, Mass, Conn, NY....she's never played NH has > she? I know we have no stadium fitting at this point, but even in her early > days, I don't remember her ever playing here. Jog my memory if I'm wrong! Melissa played Hampton Beach Club Casino way back in, uh... 87?... 88? I can't remember exactly. I didn't get to see her but some other people have mentioned it and I remember the ads in various papers. Sharon wrote on the pronunciation of NHIB: > I suggest make the H silent....be the NIBS. : ) I like it. Keep the H in the spelling of it but pronounce it nibs. What do you other NHIBs think? :) Wendy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:14:36 UT From: Tracy Minter Subject: Umm, Charlotte. Haven't commented in a while. Thought I'd give my .02. On nothing imparticular, though. Some people were commenting on the cover picture used for Newsweek. The actual subjects (in this case ME and Julie) don't really have much of a say of what picture is used. They just sign something, pose for a bunch of photos, and wait. The Newsweek people chose the picture. Probably wanted it to look like a serious story. A while back, Madonna was pissed at some women's mag, because they airbrushed out the gap in her front teeth on the photos. Here's something else. About the ultrasound. Did you notice that one is used as the signature for some production company on Wed night on ABC? I just saw it last night, but can't remember the show after which it appeared. Anyway, its a video ultrasound, with the baby moving a little, then you hear a smack and a baby's cry. Didn't notice the name of the production company, either. Heck, it made it past the censors for network TV. That reaches tons more people than a picture in a concert hall where half of the people are too far back to notice anyway. And thanks to everyone for all their updates, musings, rants, raves, opinions, and great comments. I've really enjoyed this list. Elaine said: >There is nowhere else to go in Memphis besides Graceland. What about Bealle (sp?) street? There are some great blues clubs there with wonderful performers. Memphis has also put up a lot of money for its renovation, loaning/granting much to local business owners. A great story of turn around. Carol said: >Most people who live in SF have at least seen Linda around, and I bet she >wouldn't be so confident with those dreads and tattoos in the middle of >South Carolina, (though I like her tats). So, is that better? Hey, are you knocking SC?? (Just kidding, knock away ;-)). Speaking from the viewpoint of someone stuck here, I can at least say positively that we weren't subject to all the presidential campaign adds - both parties already knew it would go Republican. And, as far as voting Strom Thurmond back in office again (the 93 year-old who started public service in 1923, etc,etc,etc), The negative campaigning the Dem did against him (pointing out only Thurmond's age, and no issues) turned me against him in the end (he also didn't have ANY experience besides being a rich man's son). I had to go independent. Pretty sad State here. I also have to drive over an hour and half to get to any limited release movies, interesting shows, etc (minus Hootie, naturally, but I did say interesting) :). So, after that long complaint, is anyone going to MLE's Charlotte concert on the 12th? T ps: (Carol, I know SC was just an example, don't worry, it's a good one - if you're over 18, doing anything strange is just plain strange to most here). Also, in Jan, I'm going to either LA or DC to continue my job hunt. Can anyone recommend a preference for either? I've lived in both. Just can't decide. I would appreciate it if people would E-mail me with your opinions, please. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:26:07 EST From: "Vanessa A. Brown" Subject: Re: NHIB --- Wendy Waterstrat wrote: Melissa played Hampton Beach Club Casino way back in, uh... 87?... 88? I can't remember exactly. I didn't get to see her but some other people have mentioned it and I remember the ads in various papers. Sharon wrote on the pronunciation of NHIB: > I suggest make the H silent....be the NIBS. : ) I like it. Keep the H in the spelling of it but pronounce it nibs. What do you other NHIBs think? :) Wendy --- end of quoted material --- I would definitely like it pronounced NIB's :)...not sure how we would have pronounced it with the "H" in there anyway. Imagine....in '87-'88, I was about 10 miles from the Hampton Beach Casino. I didn't even *know of* Melissa then. :( My loss. Vanessa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:47:43 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: NMEC: Politics On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, DOUG wrote: > Maybe next year, a talented and qualified woman will challenge Gov. > Allen in the Virginia election. Hey, Deb, you interested? 8-) Yeah, I'll kick off my campaign as soon as I can get through my damn e-mail! :) > is a true story about Mr. John Warner. A few months back he was at > the dedication/opening of a new social security office. A woman > there went to shake his hand and he said "No thank you, I just washed > my hands." He needs to come back down to Earth and realize it is the > common people who put him where he is. Perhaps his hands were wet or something? I can't imagine that scenario, sounds like a soundbite ripped out of context to me. It's just too incredulous to believe without seeing/hearing it for myself. -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:51:35 -0500 From: Deb Subject: The Name Game On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Wendy Waterstrat wrote: > > As for MLE's "new" last name: > > Hey, I could get used to it. I like the idea behind combining names; it's > > more binding somehow. > > It will take some adjusting to for all of us, and ME & Julie too I suppose. Remember, this will be the child's name, and Melissa and Julie's legal names, but Melissa and Julie will be keeping their "stage" names. > They must have had a hard time deciding what combination to use, and try as > I might, I couldn't come up with anything better than what they did. Then perhaps they should have taken a totally new name. Tori and I have discussed that possibility. -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:15:31 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: NMEC: Politics Deb wrote: ***> Allen in the Virginia election. Hey, Deb, you interested? 8-) *** *** Yeah, I'll kick off my campaign as soon as I can get through my ***damn e-mail! :) *** hell, Deb, hire a campaign staff to do the e-mail thing ***Perhaps his hands were wet or something? I can't imagine that scenario, ***sounds like a soundbite ripped out of context to me. It's just too ***incredulous to believe without seeing/hearing it for myself. *** Now, normally, I would agree with you...but my brother (very conservative with republican tendencies...yes MY brother...imagine that!) was standing there and his opinion of Warner dropped significantly right then. Oh well, sest la vee! Doug ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:44:47 +1100 From: HOLMES V O Subject: Re: VH1 Music News > Just saw a bit on VH1 discussing the pregnancy. Seems the name will be > Cypheridge. They said Austin was chosen as a first name because that's > Julie's favorite city, that she went to film school at UT, etc. > AAGH:( I'm sorry, but I *still* think Cypheridge sounds like stealing gas from the tank of somebody's car. Why can't they just hyphenate the name Cypher-Etheridge? Sure it's long, but hey, it's still better IMHO:) I do like the name Austin though:) Veronica ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:39:28 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: NMEC: Philly Pub Crawl On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, Carole Ann Cartier wrote: > P.S.. HI SUE D. AND SHIRL!...LONG TIME NO TYPE!! HA!...WHEN ARE YOU > HITTING THE BIG APPLE AGAIN...WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU OUT!! ciao for > now!...LOVE from your favorite little blue > donkey!,...eeeeeeooooooorrrrrrrrrr!!!! Why not join us down in Philly this weekend and take part in the Philly Pub Crawl. Anyone living nearby who wants to join myself, Sue D(before she takes off on her whirl wind Melissa tour), Beth Durff(Feeling better beth?), Francie(swimfishie), Randy(If she over stops running from Elaine), Elizabeth Meadows, a few non-listers and a gal from South Jersey(don't have your name handy), can hook up with at either the Sam Adams Brew House on Saturday about 7:00ish or Sister's(Women's bar) around 10ish. Maybe I'll do the "Rocky run up the art museum steps thing".... nah!! Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:24:16 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 6 Nov 1996 - Special issue Colleen wrote: >I have a question for Elaine (of the notorious Jan & Elaine). Would you stop > traveling so can ask? That's a bad habit of hers -- first Jan, then me, then Carol, then Laur -- who's she gonna visit next?! Lisa wrote: >#10 Melissa Etheridge - She and her girlfriend plan to name their child >Austin. Their second choice was Akron. LOL! Yeah, right! Carol (the NHIB one) wrote: >>and thought we might all call ourselves NHIB's (New Hampshire >>Inhibitants Bunch) > >I liked this so much I laughed my way out of lurkdom. :) :) But I wanna find out how many listmembers there are here in Tennessee! So -- let's start a thread of TNIB's!!! :) Back on the baby subject -- who else here thinks "Austin" is an aweful choice for a first name? Fumbling towards ecstacy, Aaron :) "The night is my companion and solitude my guide Would I spend forever here and not be satisfied?" --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 21:26:56 -0500 From: Melissa Good Subject: [Fwd: Some NMEC, some not.] Mary commented... > I personally enjoy seeing the ultrasounds of my friends. It's nice to be > able to share in their joy. Again, IMHO, if Julie & Melissa want to show > off their child to 5 million of their closest friends, I support them. > :-) Yeah -we were kind of intrigued to see the ultrasound as well. (Once we'd figured out what it was, that is) It wasn't spooky for me - just a trifle...unexpected. (grin) Then rhonda spoke up... >i still haven't seen the YLS tour yet (soon, soon), so maybe i'm >speaking out of turn here, but after reading mitch's descriptions of >the pictures (including the sonogram) and symbols in the backdrop, >i'm left scratching my head and saying, "huh?" it appears from what >i've read on the list that MLE just threw a bunch of provocative >stuff up on the backdrops, without any real thought as to what she is >trying to convey. at almost all of the concerts (of other artists) >i've been to, the stage props generally make sense in conjunction >with a central theme or a song. Well..the mannakins are still a puzzle. The other stuff seemed kind of...well...life related. We noticed a backbone over on one side...and one that looked like a fertilized egg (of the chicken variety) Or maybe it was an eyeball. Hard to tell. It was an interesting set to look at. Julia made the strong statement: >****************************************** >Friends don't let friends vote Republican >****************************************** I have a lot of very staunchly Republican friends who are beating their heads against the wall (carpeted walls, of course) right now. But I agree. Mr. Dole won't be getting my vote this year. Then, of course, Doug chimed in... >Good evening all. Happy Election Day Eve for all the Americans on >the list. Remember if you don't vote - you can't moan and groan >about it for 4 years! I..(pause) will be SOOOOOOO (large exasperated sigh) GLAD...when tomorrow is over. I am SOOOO very very very very very tired of watching the political bs on the tv, that I have switched to watching the test patterns coming off the sat link. And then Doug went on... >PS - did you all see this weekend's episode of Xena? When Gabrielle >bit Xena's neck - I think Xena was in ecstacy! Very weird episode. >And I think they kinda ripped off "Legend" for the make-up on >Bacchus - IMHO. No..I missed the Howloween special..though I did see little tiny bits and pieces of it. This weeks episode, with the return of the Radical Blonde Bimbo from Utter Hades was kind of interesting though...(wink) Happy very belated Howloween those whom indulge, by the way. M ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 6 Nov 1996 to 7 Nov 1996 - Special issue **************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Fri Nov 8 00:00:51 1996 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:00:13 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 7 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:33:42 -0500 From: Cathi Subject: Memphis Well I took the plunge, so to speak. I ordered MEIN tix for the Memphis show without any idea where I'm going, who I'm going with or where to stay. All I am sure of is that me and my Honda will find our way there somehow. I am nervous about driving this far (8 hrs?) on my own, so I would love to find someone between here (lower west mich.) and there to share the ride (and extra ticket) with (non-smoker please). Any suggestions for any of the other details would also be appreciated. Thanks Cathi speaktru@iserv.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:08:34 -0500 From: Cathi Subject: Silent Legacy, Julie's ultrasound My personal 'take' on silent legacy is that it reflects the struggle against family 'secrets'. Many families have secrets that children grow up keeping inside of them. Family secrets can be alcoholism, abuse of any sort, sexuality, or anything that a child grows up with a sense of shame over. ...But they cover it with shame, and turn it into rage. And as you pray in your darkness for wings to set you free, you are bound to your silent legacy.....Refuse to hand it down, the legacy stops here. ==== And about the ultrasound as 'stage prop' discussion: I guess I'm just a mush head, but I prefer to believe that Melissa 'using' the ultrasound as part of the set, is a gesture for her fans. Yes, ME knows how to manipulate our emotions, but she shows an incredible amount of trust in her fans when she leans into the audience at the end of TWIO. Even if security is right there (and they aren't always) she takes an incredible risk. And I think that showing the ultrasound is another moment of sharing something very important and personal. Her 'personal touch' is one of the things that generates so much devotion from her fans IMHO. Thanks for listening Cat speaktru@iserv.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:07:08 -0600 From: "D. Caffrey" Subject: Newsweek / mirc HI! A few questions today. Are Melissa & Julie on the cover of Newsweek? I have been all around town & I can't find this magazine anywhere. Any suggestions? Also, I have been wondering about the Etheridge channel on mirc. I'm just starting to try to figure out how mirc works & I am desperately lost. If a friendly lister could give me advice or tips on how this system runs, please e-mail me! By the way, has anyone seen the new screensaver called "the macaroni"? Macaroni comes to life, starts to sing & do the macarena. The words to the song are different of course, but they do the dance & say "hey macaroni". It's quite cute to watch, but I can't use it as my screensaver because it gets very annoying after awhile. Oh well, it made me laugh! Diane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:57:28 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: driving while listening to headphones Carol Andredesz said: >I just wanted to relate a recent experience with my personal cd >player. I use it in my car when I drive to and from work, (which is >pretty much all the driving I do), and I get to enjoy Melissa real >intense man! Oh oh, I'm getting too excited, I just wanted to >TESTIFY! > >I wear my little yellow headphones, with the console part in my lap >so that it doesn't skip too much, and I enjoy it so damn much! i just want to make sure that i'm completely understanding you - while you are driving your car, you are listening to music on headphones? sorry, carol, not only is this practice very dangerous to yourself and others around you, but it is also illegal in the state of california (and i'm assuming throughout the rest of the country). california vehicle code section 27400 states that "[n]o person operating any motor vehicle or bicycle shall wear any headset covering, or any earplugs in, both ears." there are exceptions to this section, of course, but unless you're operating special construction equipment or authorized emergency equipment, then they don't apply. perhaps you could make tapes of your MLE cds or get a "car kit" (an apparatus that allows you to hook up your personal cd player to your car stereo) so that you could listen to your cds while driving? then, you can TESTIFY all you want, while not endangering yourself and others. :-) *rhondda* ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 7 Nov 1996 ********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Fri Nov 8 07:23:26 1996 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 07:22:44 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 7 Nov 1996 to 8 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:02:34 EST From: Nanette Gherardin Subject: SMEC Afternoon all, another breakout from lurkdom. Elaine wrote: >Remember, there's no such thing as too much chocolate. Elaine, maybe you would be interested in a cafe called "Death by Chocolate". There's a couple here in Melbourne & i believe a couple more around the country. Deb wrote: >And, anyone know when LA tix go on sale to the public? I wasn't >planning on going but since it's the last show for years, I thought >there might be some sentimental moments. And maybe Ellen will show >again :) I would love to go. I received from MEIN a card advertising the "California Dreamin" trip organised by MEIN taking in both the SD & LA Shows, with 2 nights accomodation in West Hollywood. Well back to lurkdom NAN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:13:40 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: cypheridge Doug wrote: >OK, first I don't like the name Austin all that much...but the last name is kinda bad to...IMHO. >How bout Cypher -Etheridge? just a thought, besides I stll like Austin Cypheridge. IMHO the hyphenated name is too long. And Austin is used mostly for boys around here, but hey. It is better than Akron, was that seriously their 2nd choice? Aren't stars s'posed to have unusual names anyway? Look at what Demi Moore named her kids. Or Moon Unit Zappa. Could be worse. I've also decided what the kid can call Melissa: M.E. I know, I know, unoriginal, and kids have a way of knowing what to do on their own anyway. Eg.s: I have friends who have a son, the #2 mom's name is MJ, and that's what everyone calls her. So the son started calling her "emmy" (not sure how it would be spelled), kinda short for MJ. It works. And my nephew calls his biological Dad : Dad and his step-dad: Father. Each with caring. And he came up with that on his own, at a very young age. Anyway... -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:44:20 -0800 From: velt1682 Subject: Leavenworth Hello all!! I meant to mail this off a couple of days ago, but as you probably guessed, I haven't really gotten to check my mail in a couple of days. Anyway, this quarter, I'm taking a Geology course that includes a 3 hour weekly lab (from 9 am to 12noon, a horrable time for a night person). During my lab this week, we were looking at maps trying to determine the age/cycle of various streams and rivers from their characteristics, and those of the surrounding landscapes. The maps we used were from our lab books, and as we went through, one of the rivers we did was the river that went through Leavenworth, Kansas! I, of course, made the immidiate connection to Melissa and started looking for various "hot spots" from Melissa's songs. I found the VA Hospital, and I think I found Shriners Park, but it was just listed as "Shrine Park." The map was from 1948 or there abouts, so it wasn't very current. But that was my main Melissa suprise (or at least ME connection) for the week. Well, have a great week everyone! Back to emircing myself in Statistics :( Kirstin <--who spent three hours tonight on 2 chapters in Stats. velt1682@tao.sosc.osshe.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 03:06:45 -0500 From: Jen Subject: Orlando concert Hey All! 24hrs later and I'm still in a concert high! ME was fantastic! We got 6th row stage right through MEIN. So many people mentioned bad tix lately that I was getting worried. The show started about 7:50 and closed about 10:20. The two seats next to us were empty at the start and a very intoxicated couple moved up into them as soon as the lights went down. At first they just babbled in my gf's ear, but then they started handing us fistfuls of money! They kept insisting we take it for letting them have the seats. A security guy noticed this and positioned himself about 4 ft from us. All I could think of was that we were going to be arrested/tossed out for selling drugs or something. He finally went away and the real truoble started. The woman kept trying to put her arm around Deb and started saying she wanted to have a couple girls! ICK!!!!! A few good glares from me ( protective butch that I am ) toned that down pretty quick. Next bit of fun was when her boyfriend tried to buy Deb's tic stub for $100. When we kept refusing he started getting nasty and he and his gf got into a yelling match. He finally got distracted when one of the people in front of us took him up on his offer. He went off to buy another 6 beers and Deb & I switched seats. I guess I was a little too butch for his likes because after a few attempts with me he gave up. Luckily he left shortly after that. Talk about a bad 45 min. Now that I have that off my chest, on to the good stuff. Fashion check....Black t-shirt with a blue chambry (sp?) over it. Red diamonds on the back, pockets and sleeves. Black pants, tight to the knee into bootleg. Some kind of stretchy knit, I think. Black boots. Set list IRLY IIWT She commented that the Orlando Arena was the cleanest one she had ever been in. She also wanted to know where the cinnamon rolls were and threatened to hold everyone hostage until she got some. Maybe instead of flowers, we could all throw cinnamon rolls next time?? That would make a pretty picture. IWTCO She broke again to say that she would NEVER EVER tell what the next song was about because she liked to keep us guessing. She also said that even though John thinks he knows, he doesn't. Definately tight lipped on this one. AUK BMSW CTMW NTG A little bit of her coming out story here. About leaving Leavenworth at 18 to discover some wonderful, wild and crazy things. Things that were wild and crazy only because no one would talk about them but "They are PERFECTLY natural." This made for a huge crowd response and alot of laughter. Then she went home broke at 19. She went on about how this park must have been under funded because it was always very dark and you could meet alot of interesting people there. Doesn't every home town have one of those? Mine did. SP C Someone sent up a Taco Bell bag here. She was surprised and then disappointed when it contained one of those cinnamon stick things they have. We got a lesson on the difference between a stick and a roll. She gave it to Kenny. I guess he'll eat anything. SL A white box appeared on the stage. Surprise, 6 cinnamon rolls. This was just before the "my child" portion. When she went back to the mic she asked "Where was I?" That woman definately makes love to her guitar here! We weren't sure weither to light cigs or applaud when she was done. ICHBY Move to small stage YIA AAG LMG She started LMG on the second verse, stopped, and said that she could have gotten away with it, but she was too honest. ATWTH R Back to main stage BMSW ITOO YLS offstage Encore LTWID offstage Encore TWIO By the end, my new filling was vibrating. I had a rotten toothache the rest of the night, but it was definately worth it. ME looked tired when she first came out, but soon was way up there. At one point Deb and I had our linked hands in the air, we made eye contact and she graced us with a beautiful smile. She also pointed at Deb during ICHBY. I managed to touch her right hand at the end when security relaxed a little, it WAS very soft. I know I've babbled quite a bit. Sorry about the length, but ME is one subject I can't be short on. Bright Blessings all Jen Silence will not protect you ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:50:33 -0400 From: Mico Subject: Re: Cameras sneaked into Dean Dome NC Hey Randy..... You don't have to be well-endowed to sneak in one of those little disposible cameras!! I know a certain someone on this list who isn't nearly as "large" as she thinks she is and that is the route she had to go. We got some great pics of the show at the Fleet too btw! Not to mention a few closeups from when she was being frisked....but don't worry, that was by me, not security ;) Good luck, Mico ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 7 Nov 1996 to 8 Nov 1996 - Special issue **************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sat Nov 9 00:00:44 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:00:04 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 8 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:35:38 -0500 From: MS MICHELLE R BERUBE Subject: Re: NHIB Wendy aked: >Michelle, were you left, right or center?....I was far left at Boston if you're facing the stage. Was I >almost right behind you? Wow, must have been. I was to the left of the stage both times. I wanted to catch the Amherst show too, but I had a wedding to go to. :( Vanessa, re your question about MLE in NH. I hear they really want to build a big auditorium type thang in Raymond for concerts, sports etc. Maybe by the time Melissa tours again? We all know it will be a long time, unfortunately. Michelle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:08:55 +0100 From: Yvonne Hendricks Subject: 20/20 On Thu, 7 nov 1996 Allison wrote >I might be missing something here but I thought that statement from 20/20 >was an interesting turn on the typical line of questioning concerning gay >parents (i.e. "what if the children turn out gay?"). I can see how >20/20's question can be offensive but I was caught by their refusal to >ask that question and instead ask the one they did. And yes, I can and >have seen straight couples asked (a billion times) about how they would >feel if their child were gay. > I just wanna say that I haven't seen 20/20. This because I haven't been able to. I do agree with you that it was nice of them not to ask the question..And I also know that a lot of people (straight) are asked that question.. Maybe y'all can fill me in a bit about 20/20, about what kind of programm it is, and such stuff..I just reacted on what somebody else wrote about it.. You know that is the difficulty of living in a country that doesn't air that show...or any other show for that matter... Now a totaly different question. I hear y'all talking 'bout seats. In Holland there are tickets for sale where you can sitt and tickets where you can stand..What I mean is that we have a thing called an Arena. There are no chairs there so you can really get close to the stage..and feel the vibe of a concert. My last concert I was to late to get these arena tickets, so I had to take the seat tickets. Let me tell ya, it's just not the same as standing there in front of a stage.. Do y'all have seats or do you have something like these arena tickets too? I was just curious. Have a nice weekend. Yvonne Speak True M.E. Ps forgive me for not knowing anything of 20/20, this results in me reacting to what somebody else writes. And not knowing exactly the context it was written in. Greetings from a Dutch girl. Yvonne Hendricks TNO-TPD-TU Instrumentatie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:17:18 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: 20/20 Yvonne Hendricks wrote: > Do y'all have seats or do you have something like these arena tickets too? Well, speaking from the midwest region. We have both. There are the places that are all seats, or there are the ones that also serve as basketball courts or ice arenas that you are allowed to stand wherever. Those type of places usually go to the heavy thrash bands (but not always). > Have a nice weekend. Thanks Roger Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:19:43 EST From: Kelli M Vinson Subject: Memphis Concert I have tix's to the Memphis concert and will be traveling from Nashville. Not at all familiar w/the area. If anyone would- please send me info- via private e-mail- on places to stay close to the coliseum, eateries, gay-friendly bars, and anything else you could add. Mucho thanks in advance!!! Kelli* (KV711Law@Juno.Com) "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom."--Anais Nin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:09:20 -0500 From: CHAOS Subject: Eleanor MacEvoy On Thu, 7 Nov 1996 04:23:22 EST Mary harbaugh wrote: Subject: Skin Deep Hey all, I'm just sitting here at work and listening to B&C (what a great job!). Anyway, I just hear SD and was trying to think of what it meant. I know that B&C was during her "unknown" years, so does "my love is only skin deep" mean that she is with a guy but her real love is with another woman? Or is it just left up for grabs to what the person listening wants to think. I don't know why I'm being so philisophical, I've been sitting in front of this computer too long (but atleast I have Melissa). Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 11:18:44 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: About The Ultra Sound... I just wanted to put in my two cents about this thing... I think the reason why Melissa is displaying the ultra sound on stage is because she is so damn happy that she's gonna be a mom... =) It's like carrying a picture around in your wallett... did I spell that right? hhhmmm... Anyways... That's what I think./ I think that she is sssooo proud that she wants everyone to know... I would be the same way! =) Have a great weekend everyone... Oh, by the way... I just wanted to say to everyone that I have some great boots that I would love to copy and trade with people... =) Just e-mail me privately... =) Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:54:51 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Elanor McEvoy On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, mary harbaugh wrote: > Just saw a video on VH1 by Elanor McEvoy. The song's name was "Precious > Little;" I think it came from her '96 album called "Who's Following me?" > Anybody ever hear of her/her CD? I bought her first CD; I liked it okay, but it was a little too far to the folk side of the folk/rock spectrum for my tastes. -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:57:19 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Cypheridge On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, HOLMES V O wrote: > AAGH:( I'm sorry, but I *still* think Cypheridge sounds like stealing > gas from the tank of somebody's car. LOL! I know what you mean... "Austin Cypheridge" sound to me like some kinda Texas pipeline carrying crud out of Austin... poor kid. :) -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 14:58:41 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Newsweek On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, D. Caffrey wrote: > HI! A few questions today. Are Melissa & Julie > on the cover of Newsweek? I have been all around town & > I can't find this magazine anywhere. Any suggestions? Get to your stores earlier. :) There have been 2 issues on the stand since that one. Pick one up, and get the info for back issues on the banner page. -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:04:21 -0500 From: Carole Ann Cartier Subject: Re: NMEC: Philly Pub Crawl Sorry guys... this weekend is a blow out... I have a Stats exam for my MBA program...and have to spend some time being ONE with my 12 string! However...WILL take you up on it another time...ESPECIALLY if you're in NYC!! Take care all... CA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 17:50:44 -0500 From: "Laura A. Vess" Subject: Elizabeth Elkins' new email Hey. Emory University got smart and realized I graduated a long time ago - so I no longer have an account at eelkins@emory.edu. So anyone who usually contacts me at that address, please use lvess@emory.edu instead. Thanks. Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:01:14 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: Skin Deep Hey Roger, I'm sure there are people who know alot more about MLE than me, but my take on SD is that she was'nt in the relationship for the love but for the "fun", if ya get my drift. I always assumed she was talking about another woman, as it seems like she's only been interested in women since she was in high school. Although......I've always wondered what she needed "protection" from in Meet Me In The Back! from one fellow OHIOAN mle lover to another, kathy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:10:02 -0500 From: Anne Haines Subject: Austin There's a boy in my mom's day-care center named Austin, but I've never heard the name for a girl before... still, I think it's kinda cute. And I think it's *much* better than naming her Leavenworth. :) -Anne in Indiana who lives not too far from French Lick ... maybe if I ever have a kid ... hmmmmm. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:37:26 -0500 From: Mike Lieman Subject: Re: driving while listening to headphones At 08:57 PM 11/7/96 -0800, Rhondda Ashby wrote: >Carol Andredesz said: > >>I just wanted to relate a recent experience with my personal cd >>player. I use it in my car when I drive to and from work, >>I wear my little yellow headphones, with the console part in my lap >>so that it doesn't skip too much, and I enjoy it so damn much! I've got a friend who *used to* have a pair of electrostatic headphones attached to a 80w/ch amplifier for long distance, night driving! Made the trip back from the show something else... >sorry, carol, not only is this practice very dangerous to yourself >and others around you, but it is also illegal in the state of >california (and i'm assuming throughout the rest of the country). NY, Yes. >perhaps you could make tapes of your MLE cds or get a "car kit" (an >apparatus that allows you to hook up your personal cd player to your >car stereo) so that you could listen to your cds while driving? >then, you can TESTIFY all you want, while not endangering yourself >and others. :-) And the difference between a really good car stereo, and headphones, regarding isolation from the outside is, what? I don't really see any, but it doesn't sound like a great idea. peace Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:13:46 -0500 From: Kelley at AOL Subject: Missy in Memphis Dear friends and listers... I need one more ticket for the Memphis show on November 23rd...can anyone help me? Please email privately and thanks in advance.... Take care, Kelley "I am woman, I am invincible, I am tired..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:33:52 -0500 From: Laura Politano Subject: Boston and NMEC Hey Everyone, I'm heading up to the Boston area in a couple of weeks with intentions of looking for a place to live. I'd like something outside of the city but ideally within 20 miles. I plan on checking out Framingham since I've heard alot of positve things about it but I'm open to other suggestions and would appreciate any advice anyone could offer. I know there must be lots of Melissa fans up that way and any advice a Melissa fan gives is good advice to me! Thanks in advance. Please e-mail privately. Laura (Who loves New York but is ready for a change) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:52:08 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: Austin; Reading; Meet Me in the Back Anne Haines quipped of Melissa and Julie naming their nipper Austin: >>And I think it's *much* better than naming her Leavenworth. :) And then Anne signed off: >>-Anne in Indiana who lives not too far from French Lick ... maybe if I ever have a kid ... hmmmmm. << Pity us all if you lived in Intercourse, PA. ************ Jennifer Richmond at RICHMOND96@ALISON.SBC.EDU said: >>read read<< Funny. I keep telling my students that very thing. ****************** Kathy, or Slvrstar20@AOL.COM , pondered of MMITB: >>Although......I've always wondered what she needed "protection" from in Meet Me In The Back!<< Melissa merely changed that verse from the original version, written in the early 1980s, to reflect a message about safer sex when the song was finally released in the 1990s. I *think* the original verse went something like, "Will I get 200/If I pass the go/And if you bring me candy/I will just say no." Later, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:06:27 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Meet Me in the Back Correction! Drat, leave it to me to post a blooper . Okay, I just went back and listened to the verse on tape, and so here is the original verse from "Meet Me in the Back": "Can I collect two hundred If I pass the Go-- And if you bring me candy I will let you know." This was changed in the version on "Never Enough" to: "I'm gonna give directions I'm gonna take it slow But if I don't get protection I will just say no." 'Okey-dokey, off to bed now! Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:33:49 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: Austin; Reading; Meet Me in the Back Joyce Luck wrote: >Anne Haines quipped of Melissa and Julie naming their nipper Austin: >>And >I >think it's *much* better than naming her Leavenworth. :) >And then Anne signed off: >>-Anne in Indiana > who lives not too far from French Lick ... maybe if I ever have a kid > ... hmmmmm. << >Pity us all if you lived in Intercourse, PA. Or Blue Ball!!!! -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:09:07 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: A lil tidbit... Evening everyone... I was just channel surfing while waiting for the old computer to boot up and I saw the last few minutes of DateLine NBC... They had the question for the day and it was... "Who do you think will have the most normal childhood? Madonna's child. Michael Jackson's child or Melissa's child?" They showed Melissa's few seconds of concert footage and the cover of NewsWeek and said how Melissa and her partner of the same sex were expecting a child. They said they polled 503 people, I think, they showed 3 responses. One said Michael's kid would be growing up in quarenteen. Someone else said Madonna and then another dude said Melissa... Here are the results of the poll... 29% of the people said they were not sure 6% of the people said Michael Jackson's child 25% said Melissa and Julie's child and 30% or 31% said Madonna's kid... Hhhmmm... Makes you wonder... Well, made me wonder for about 3 seconds... =) My attention span is short tonighht... Must be the spirit of the wind... ;) Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:42:24 EST From: SueL <103131.341@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Hidden Cameras On Fri, 8 Nov 1996 Mico wrote: >You don't have to be well-endowed to sneak in one of those little disposible >cameras!! I know a certain someone on this list who isn't nearly as "large" >as she thinks she is and that is the route she had to go. We got some great >pics of the show at the Fleet too btw! Not to mention a few closeups from >when she was being frisked....but don't worry, that was by me, not security ;) AHEM! Could you POSSIBLY mean me, girly? I was well enough endowed to hide that camera which YOU could NOT! Let me remind you that it was a disposable with a FLASH !!! It was not so LITTLE!! It takes a certain 'girth' to be able to place it between 'Thelma & Louise' , leave my bowling shirt slightly unbuttoned, and STILL not have it visible!!! As for the rest of your tall tale, you have been kinda FRISKY lately! MEEEOOOOWWW! Take care all! Sue (Ellyn) BTW Joyce, Thanks for defending me!!! She IS a meanie! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:32:00 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Group Posting Hi this is Elaine posting from Camp Hoffman, Ok so we're just kidding!!! Ooopps best get those running shoes on. Pitter Pat Pitter Pat(Sound of Running Feet). Damn no telling where that gal may show up. :] Well we have started the Philly Pub Crawl in Kutztown, look out Sue D is dancing around my computer room yelling "Look Out White Girl Dancing". How appropos(any spellers out there), "You must Be Crazy For Me" is cranking from the Bose as we post! Well Beth Durff decided she needed ANOTHER evening to recooperate before Pub Crawling with us, hhmmm...Chic magnet????? And now for your entertainment the one and only Melissa crazed lister..........Sue D!!!!!!!!!!! Hmmmm, should I even tell you about dinner tonight? Shirl managed to get the waitress all het up (southern term, right?). It all started with her telling us we were easy (are we that transparent even to strangers....) Then it culminated with an offer of lots of great desserts.... This on top of all that meat. Whats a poor girl to do in Kutztown on a Friday night? (Don't worry Randy, we really are harmless. Except when the real shy and demure chic magnet gets herself in gear...) Hey, did Shirl tell you she has Melissa in her bedroom? Sounds almost too good to be true, but it isn't, I've seen her there!!!! Oooops, Shirl is grabbing the keyboard again. I think she has had an inspiration about her mentor, Sam Adams... Yes, I must say that Sam Adams is probably the most important man in my life...well the only man in my life. Lucky me! Sue gave me the most awesome picture of Melissa to hang in my bedroom!!! Now I get to wake up to Melissa every morning, damn those big brown eyes!! Whewph, those big brown eyes. Time to go riding off in that big Pink Cadillac!! More to come tomorrow. Shirl & Sue signing off from the beginning of the Philly Pub Crawl!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:46:13 -0500 From: Vivian Choh Subject: dateline poll On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Kiva Kamerling wrote regarding the DATELINE poll as to whose child would lead a normal life: > 29% of the people said they were not sure > 6% of the people said Michael Jackson's child > 25% said Melissa and Julie's child > and 30% or 31% said Madonna's kid... drat! Kiva beat me to the computer.. I too saw this poll, and remember that the last number was actually 31%, which would mean that total polled was (quick double check mentally, yup) 91%. What happened to the rest (the 9%)?? with regards to the chimeric last name cypheridge: although long, it is certainly the most obvious as to who the parents are. But, for a shorter chimeric name, I propose Cether. looks awful, sounds awful, but it does sound like kinda like cypher (let the names roll off the tongue -- cether, cypher, cether -- see?) and does have the beginning of Etheridge to it! ok, ok, i'll stick to my "day-job". oh, I too was one of the multitudes of people who missed the 20/20 interview (that'll teach me to leave my mail unchecked for 4 days!!) Is there any chance of getting a transcript of the show? I started a web search but the results mostly had to do with vision, not the show, and the computer was extremely slow, so I gave up. hmm.. thinking on it now, perhaps i should've checked abc or something (although knowing my luck, i'd probably have ended up with a list of children's primers). Some shows have the transcript address after the credits of the show. Those of you with the tape... was there an address? If so, please post! Thanks muchly! viv ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vivian Choh "I'm all that I claim to be. I simply have not bi189@torfree.net claimed all that I am." -- M. Lackey, vchoh@optometry.watstar.uwaterloo.ca "Oathbreakers" ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 8 Nov 1996 ********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sun Nov 10 00:00:44 1996 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 00:00:03 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 8 Nov 1996 to 9 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:25:13 -0800 From: Christine Du Bois Subject: Re: a strange question, indeed Roger said: | I'm just sitting here at work and listening to B&C (what a great | job!). Anyway, I just hear SD and was trying to think of what it meant. | I know that B&C was during her "unknown" years, so does "my love is only | skin deep" mean that she is with a guy but her real love is with another | woman? Or is it just left up for grabs to what the person listening | wants to think. I don't know why I'm being so philosophical, I've been | sitting in front of this computer too long (but at least I have Melissa). | How have you deduced that she's lusting after a man but is preserving her love for a woman? Do you think that a woman isn't capable of feeling only lust and not love for another woman? Or do you think that a woman can't possibly endure a lifetime of sex without penile involvement? Don't get me wrong, I'm not pissed. Rather, I'm perturbed. Questions like that about a woman who's been queer all her life makes me raise an eyebrow at the interrogator... Christine Du Bois ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:49:14 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Re: Dateline Poll Heh heh heh... Sorry bout beating you to the computer Viv my dear... ;) You were correct it was 31%... I don't know how they can poll 503 people and come up 9% short... Great broadcast journalism, huh? Oooohhhh I am in an evil mood tonight... I tll you, the wind here in NY is so mystic tonight... Leavenworth Cypheridge...? Ummm I dunno bout that one... I like the name Austin... As for the last name. We may not like it, but it's the 3 of them who will be living with it, so let's be supportive... AAAHHH... Has anyone seen my Gemini twin??? I seem to have lost her, or him... or both of them... Okay, sleep beckons... I am getting subliminal messages from my bed... "Kiva, Kiva..." Hhmm... I better check this out... Night everyone... Peace, Kiva P.S. I Love Melissa!!! =) Sorry... Been listining to some boots and getting a little mist eyed... *sniff* She is just sssooo cool! =) But, then you guys knew that... Heh heh he... Okay, okay, I'm really leaving now... =) B Y E ! =) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 01:07:00 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: a strange question, indeed I'm really sorry, I'm not that good at phrasing my thoughts into the correct words. I'll see if I can clear this up. > How have you deduced that she's lusting after a man but is preserving her > love for a woman? Well, I didn't deduce that she is lusting after a man. My thought was that maybe she was with him out of societal pressure (something like that), and she really wasn't with who she really wanted to be with. > Do you think that a woman isn't capable of feeling only > lust and not love for another woman? Or do you think that a woman can't > possibly endure a lifetime of sex without penile involvement? Actually, this was the furthest thing from my mind. And I feel really bad that this is how it was assumed. > Don't get me wrong, I'm not pissed. Rather, I'm perturbed. Sorry again. > Questions like that about a woman who's been queer all her life makes > me raise an eyebrow at the interrogator... This was part of my original question. I know that her YIA album was her public coming out with her lesbianism, but what i didn't know was what her life was like before that. Like if she felt she had to date men for societal / family reasons. You were raising your eye at my naivity and that is why I asked (and not interrogated) Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 01:24:51 -0500 From: Sooz911@AOL.COM Subject: Austin, Philly, & Seattle/Tacoma Just got home for the Seattle Reign game. Seattle wins over the San Jose Lasers!! Wahooooo!! My thoughts on the name Austin. I have a good friend whose little boy is named Austin. I think it's a good name for a boy, but for a girl seems a little strange. I like different names myself though so I guess if they like it that's all that matters. As for Cypheridge...it's only one letter more than Etheridge remember. Sue...Shirl...I'm jealous! Wish I was back there doing the Philly thing with you guys. I'm just counting the days until the Pacific NW gathering begins. I'm looking forward to meeting & hanging out with other listers. I've gotten mail from a few people from Spokane, Seattle/Tacoma & Portland. Our NW gathering just might rival some of the gatherings you eastern folks have had. We're gonna' have to find someone with a web page to post pictures. After getting signed releases from everyone that is. Don't wanna deal with any bad sports. Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 01:27:46 -0500 From: Michelle Partin Subject: ahhh, that new car smell..... Well, today was the day!! I am now the PROUD owner of a 1997 Honda Accord EX!!! I am one happy lister. I just wanted everybody to know. Lookin' forward to the Portland gathering, Michelle (Help, I need a nickname. I've noticed at least a few Michelle's on the list!!) P.S. still waiting to hear about getting a shirt..... hint, hint.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 22:43:37 -0800 From: Christine Du Bois Subject: we can work it out Roger and I talked a bit about the so-called meaning of "Skin Deep" via private e-mail, for anyone who cares to know. Basically, I apologized to him for being bitchy and he apologized to me for the initial misunderstanding. Sorry if the tone of my original post raised any hackles. I'm just in a very bad mood tonight, and poor Roger happened to be on the receiving end. Oops... Christine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:12:35 GMT From: Elaine Naiman Subject: advice Laura wrote: >> any advice a Melissa fan gives is good advice to me! Give me all your money. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 02:48:24 -0600 From: Patti Fink Subject: MLE's baby on Dateline Hey group! Did anyone else just see Dateline just now? On their "Question of the Week," they asked 503 Americans "Which baby is most likely to live a normal life?"....Madonna's, Michael Jackson's (this was news to me), or Melissa Etheridge's baby. The results: Not Sure: 29% Michael Jackson's: 6% Melissa Etheridge's: 25% Madonna's: 31% I managed to catch it on tape, and in replaying it found they used Melissa's music throughout the video clips of the pertinent celebrities....kinda wild since they're all musicians! Patti Fink pattif@iadfw.net "A surprising number of things I don't believe are eventually proven to be untrue." -- Ashleigh Brilliant ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:29:55 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: Austin, Philly, & Seattle/Tacoma Hi ya Sooz(Susan), On Sat, 9 Nov 1996 Sooz911@AOL.COM wrote: > Just got home for the Seattle Reign game. Seattle wins over the San Jose > Lasers!! Wahooooo!! The second love of my life(Jen Azzi) was beaten???? > Sue...Shirl...I'm jealous! Wish I was back there doing the Philly thing with > you guys. We will include you in the evenings round of toasts for missing comrades. We always start our gatherings with a "Mean People Suck" toast and then move on to toasting all the special nice people. We also do non-alcoholic toasts for those listers who do not partake of the spirits(Pop drinkers). > We're gonna' have to find someone with a web page to post pictures. After > getting signed releases from everyone that is. Don't wanna deal with any bad > sports. I'd love to put some pictures up for the rest of th elist to enjoy. I am working on a release form and Sue D will be bringing it with her. Any words of wisdom this morning Sue D??? I must go be domestic now(Cook breakfast). SueD here, bright-eyed and chipper on this gray November morning. I too am looking forward to meeting up with folks in the great NW. A whole new bunch of faces to connect with names on the list. It should be interesting to see Melissa while we are all encased under that huge dome of cement in Tacoma. (I still don't understand why they built that thing that way, but I am no architect) Regardless, the time can't pass too quickly! Are all the Texas listers getting psyched out there? Merely a week left until Melissa starts kicking up her heels in the Lone Star State. I can already smell the aroma of those grilling fajitas...hey Shirl, breakfast almost ready? Shirl says to have a great day EVERYONE! (She really is busy in the kitchen with those famous Shirl breakfast potatoes) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:33:59 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: ahhh, that new car smell..... Congratulations on the Honda purchase!! I recently became the proud owner of the cutest Lil Blue Honda CRX myself. I'm sure Beth D(Honda Driving Chic Magnet)herself will be catching up with you as soon as she is feeling better. On Sat, 9 Nov 1996, Michelle Partin wrote: > Well, today was the day!! I am now the PROUD owner of a 1997 Honda Accord > EX!!! > I am one happy lister. I just wanted everybody to know. Ooops, got to get back in the kitchen and attend to the potatoes! Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 10:43:16 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: babies, K's Choice, last names Kiva wrote: >I was just channel surfing while waiting for the old computer to boot up and >I saw the last few minutes of DateLine NBC... They had the question for the >day and it was... "Who do you think will have the most normal childhood? >Madonna's child. Michael Jackson's child or Melissa's child?" Um, was this just speculating on the theoretical possibility of Michael Jackson having a child, or is he actually going to have one? (just the thought makes me nauseous...) I dunno -- I've been really out of it lately -- haven't watched MTV or VH1 once in over a week... I think I'm going insane............ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone here like K's Choice? I saw them open for Alanis Morissette (yes, hate me, but it's true) a few months ago, and was very impressed. I've also heard their version of "Rockin In The Free World" with the Indigo Girls which is quite good. They're gonna be having a show here next Tuesday at a small venue, plus an in-store performance at a cd store here several hourse befoe the show. :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ About last names for the baby... I don't like Cypher-Etheridge, or hyphenated names in general -- too long and confusing. I'd go with Cypheridge or Cyridge, or just something entirely different. :) Aaron! "The night is my companion and solitude my guide Would I spend forever here and not be satisfied?" --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 11:40:35 -0500 From: Sasha Friedman Subject: Re: ahhh, that new car smell..... Well...I am also a new PROUD owner of a HOnda, only mine is a 97 silver civic LX...I am also one happy lister... sasha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:28:51 -0500 From: Karrie Bowen Subject: storytellers Hey guys: Could someone either privately email me or post soon to the list what time Storytellers is on tonight??? Thanks Karrie KiP ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 13:39:52 -0500 From: MR DOW W JONES Subject: Looking for VIENNA concert! Hi! I am looking desperately for the VIENNA (AUSTRIA) concert from the 15th of February 1996. I would pay a really good prize. PLEASE HELP ME! e-mail me privately at: D.W.Jones@prodigy.com Take care, Angie xxx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 14:12:27 -0500 From: Tracy Albright Subject: Fwd: Melissa I got this letter from someone who owns a bar in NC and she wanted me to spread the word so I sent it to you guys. If you know how to do a bulk mailing of all the people who live in NC and have ME in their profiles please do so and then let me know how to do it...Thanks. Tracy In a message dated 96-11-09 11:15:43 EST, K2BJ writes: << Subj: Melissa Date: 96-11-09 11:15:43 EST From: K2BJ To: Taz Tra Hi Tracy- I'm a fan in North Carolina and trying to get out the word that the upcoming concert in Chapel Hill on Monday night has not sold very many tickets. I'm not very experienced with the Web and how to spread information. Any help that you can give would be wonderful. I also own the local women's bar, All About Eve, in Durham. We are going to open Monday night after the concert. We are normally closed on Monday, but I wanted everyone to have somewhere to go to keep the feeling going strong. If you have any way of getting this information out to fans who may be attending this show, any help would be greatly appreciated. I sent an e-mail to the fan club about this as well. I also invited Melissa and the band to stop by. Ha! Wouldn't I die!!! Thanks a lot and GREAT PHOTO ! Kathy L. Kennedy K2BJ@aol >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 15:33:32 -0400 From: CJ Subject: Theresa's Tattoo Hey all, Delurking to confirm that Wolfe Video does have Theresa's Tattoo for $19.95, but I would suggest that unless you are a fan of really bad movies, try to rent it instead. Melissa's part is actually just the video from 2001 playing in the background during the opening scene. Although she does include some original music for the film, it's just not there. (Sorry, Julie, if you're reading this, but I think you've found your calling in music videos) k.d. lang is pretty funny, as she plays a born-again bible thumper. Back into the shadows... CJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:34:31 -0800 From: AJ Subject: Leavenworth Hi All! De-lurking a moment to pass on some info to Kirstin regarding Leavenworth. Kirstin, yeah, Nowhere to Go is DEFINITELY about Leavenworth. I should know; I grew up in Leavenworth. My cousins went to school with Melissa. But Shrine Park is not "Shriner's Park". I believe Shriner's Park is either in, or in a town near, Santa Barbara. (Anyone from there have anything to add?) Indeed, the VA hospital is set on sprawling acres toward the south of town. That federal land has, at various points in time, been referred to as "Wadsworth", "The Old Soldiers' Home", and simply "the VA". The Missouri river ("the mighty muddy Mo'") does run past Leavenworth, though not "through" it. Across the river lies the sprawling suburbs of Kansas City. If indeed the landmarks described by ME were in order on a continuous route, she is describing Leavenworth before 1989, possibly WAY before that. The only thing I can't fit in is "the old abandoned box-car" If the other items are in place according to their order in the song, there were no abandoned box cars there. There were lots of old unused tracks, on which some old boxcars were parked. Anywho...I imagine there would have been no good way to present the song without taking some liberties with geography and other such minutia. So there. That's all. I've rambled enough for now. AJ McEvoy San Francisco, CA (surrounded by water, protected by dikes, and serviced by ferries!) :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:20:03 -0400 From: Mico Subject: Re: Hidden Cameras On Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:42:24 EST, Ellyn wrote: >AHEM! >Could you POSSIBLY mean me, girly? >I was well enough endowed to hide that camera which YOU could NOT! Let me >remind you that it was a disposable with a FLASH !!! It was not so >LITTLE!! It takes a certain 'girth' to be able to place it between 'Thelma & >Louise' , leave my bowling shirt slightly unbuttoned, and STILL not have it >visible!!! However, we must not forget that those socks you placed in there to throw off any suspicious security guards did nothing to "enhance" Thelma and Louise, did they? The real test would be to see where Thelma and Louise park their Thunderbird ;) Now, if you could handle that...then I "might" be inclined to admit that you are "somewhat" well endowed :) >BTW Joyce, Thanks for defending me!!! She IS a meanie! Joyce, you met me....am I REALLY a meanie??? LOL Mico ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 16:26:20 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Philly Pub Crawling Howdy Listers, Were still here at Camp Hoffman but getting ready to begin the road trip to Philly just as soon as I get all the women out of my bedroom!!!! Yes life is tough but I will endure. Randy stopped by, took a break from here cross country run. She is trying to catch her breath now before she starts the next leg of her run. Beth Durff just made it over, how fast were you driving Beth? What was that you said about Radar. Everyone survived breakfast, right SueD? SueD: Breakfast, I don't remember no stinking breakfast...Oh, is that what that was supposed to be? Sorry. That trip to the bedroom got me so confused...where are we and what are all these women doing here? Shirl Here: Nothing like a picture of Melissa in my bedroom to reel the women in...thanks for the picture SueD. Now I can wake up every morning with a smile. Well time to hit the road for Philly so as to pay homage to the man in my life...Samuel Adams. Bye, Shirl, SueD, Randy, Beth and a few other friends. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 16:53:38 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Festive Philly Fall Pub Crawl...take two It is almost 5 PM Eastern time. I spent the night helping with my nephew while his daddy got his knee operated on. He went shopping with me and started picking out outfits for the holidays for me. He asked when Melissa is putting out an new album and he got his sister a birthday present. She is 3 this week. He is 5 going on 30. He told the waiter in Houlihans he likes cappicino! What a kid!!! I have a little over an hour before the gang arrives from Kutztown and I have to CLEAN!!!!!! The calm before the storm!!! More Later!!!! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:05:22 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: Hidden Cameras Mico said: >>Joyce, you met me....am I REALLY a meanie??? LOL<< No, you are ALL meanies. ;-) Later, Joyce ps--actually, you are ALL sweeties for taking me to the airport so early. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:21:47 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Elizabeth Meadows!!!! Elizabeth please call us at Francies(swimfishie) 215-925-2969 we just arrived 6:15pm and I don't have your number with me. If you get this later please meet us over at Sam Adams Brew House we will hang there till about 9:30 and then move on to Sisters from there. The gang ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:47:07 -0800 From: Elizabeth Meadows Subject: Re: Elizabeth Meadows!!!! The gathered ones, from Francie's address, wrote: > Elizabeth please call us at Francies(swimfishie) ..... > If you get this later please > meet us over at > Sam Adams Brew House we will hang there till about 9:30 and > then move on to Sisters from there. Gosh, I feel so FAMOUS. Kinda why I had to respond to this message - after all, I'm not a subject line of my own very often. So, for people wondering how the gathering is going, I just called Francie's as requested - they sound like they're having a blast. I, on the other hand, am at WORK!! Is this pathetic or what. I'm counting the days till around mid-December, when hopefully I will no longer need to let work interfere with my social schedule (not to mention my television schedule - I really hate having these priorities messed with!). But, I digress. I'm under orders from a rowdy group of women to finish up here so I can still meet them at Sam Adams. Hopefully, my next post will be as one of a gathering. - Elizabeth :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:48:14 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Story Time... Wow... Wow... Wow... The stories made me smile, and cry... Her voice gave me the chills and brought tears to my eyes... She has the smile of an angel... And in her eyes you could just see the memories of the tales she told us about her songs... her life...Me I often wonder how someone who puts her emotions to music can make me feel so many different things all at once... How it's possible that she can evoke tears through laughter and smiles when there is pain... But then, who am I to question what a gift her music is to me... to millions... Melissa is the most real, down to earth person I have ever met, seen perform, or listened to. Her music is my best friend... It always will be... I guess after seeing Storytellers tonight, Melissa succeeded once again to bring out feelings that I didn't know I could really feel... But they feel good... They really do... I hope everyone enjoyed Storytellers as much as I did... Thanks for listining... Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ************************************************* "...i'm so close to heaven, this hell is not mine... this hell is not mine..." m.e. ************************************************* ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 8 Nov 1996 to 9 Nov 1996 ************************************************ From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Mon Nov 11 00:00:59 1996 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:00:19 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 9 Nov 1996 to 10 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:43:04 GMT From: Elaine Naiman Subject: support/MJ/Teresa's Tattoo Kiva wrote: >> Austin... As for the last name. We may not like it, but it's the 3 >> of them who will be living with it, so let's be supportive... I see no reason to be supportive of something if I don't like it. Aaron asked: >> was this just speculating on the theoretical possibility of Michael >> Jackson having a child, or is he actually going to have one? Uh, Aaron, it's theoretically impossible for Michael Jackson to have a baby (I thought you'd gotten all this biology stuff figured out a long time ago ) - however he has either impregnated or donated sperm to somebody (who he may or may not have paid $500,000) to have his baby. CJ wrote: >> movies, try to rent it instead. Melissa's part is actually just the >> video from 2001 playing in the background during the opening scene. And the hooker. Don't forget the hooker. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 01:54:31 -0400 From: Tegan Godwin Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 8 Nov 1996 to 9 Nov 1996 Laura wrote: >> any advice a Melissa fan gives is good advice to me! Give me all your money. Elaine I like your response. I think Laura could become broke. :) Storyteller was wonderful. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:44:52 -0800 From: edgy Subject: VH1 Telling Stories? Scene I: Allison sees VH1 advertise Storytellers for 7pm PST; Allison sets VCR to record at 7pm EST; Allison goes to party down the street; Allison returns home later that evening; Allison rewinds tape only to find John Fugelsang's Rock n Roll picture show. In light of Melissa's upcoming Sesame Street appearance, anyone know what's wrong with this picture? Anyone know what I did wrong? And more importantly, I guess, anyone know when VH1 is rebroadcasting Storytellers? *growl* Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 03:41:08 -0800 From: Britt*! Subject: Storytellers If anyone caught Storytellers on tape and would be willing to get a copy for me, I am willing to pay postage, etc! Please respond privately... thanks! britt IT'S WHIMS THAT MAKE THE WORLD GO 'ROUND!!! ****************************************************************************** * "She says 'Forget what you have to do/Pretend there is nothing * * outside this room'/And like an idea, she came to me/But she came * * too late, or maybe too soon..." -Ani DiFranco "She Says" * ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:42:31 -0600 From: Bruce Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 27 Oct 1996 to 28 Oct 1996 - Special issue Oh My Dear Pooh....did you know that your feet are LARGER at the END of your day, then at the beginning ? Also that one foot (paw) may be larger than the other... ?? :> (Tis all True !! :>) I'd suggest that you go try shoes on at the END of your day, & try them on BOTH feet. If it comes down to it, get the larger size. That way you can wear thicker softer sox, & you don't cram your toes up against the very End of the Toe-Box of the shoe... :> Hope this helps you decide to forgo the suction (which whould only LENGTHEN your poor tootsies !) :> Or go shoeless, and let your little paws Breate !! :> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:43:03 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: VH1 Telling Stories? trying to be witty, I committed an egregious typing error: > Allison sees VH1 advertise Storytellers for 7pm PST; > Allison sets VCR to record at 7pm EST; ^^^ Ah, but my error was, alas, not so easy to detect. I did, in fact, set my VCR to record at 7 Pacific time, not Eastern. Did anyone else on the left coast not get Storytellers at 7pm PST? Am I doomed to eternal programming damnation? And why were there no strawberry blondes at the party? Glazed and bemused, Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:03:17 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: Re: K's Choice / Leavenworth Hi you all out here, Aaron Morrison wrote here yesterday: >Anyone here like K's Choice? I saw them open for Alanis Morissette (yes, >hate me, but it's true) a few months ago, and was very impressed. I've also >heard their version of "Rockin In The Free World" with the Indigo Girls >which is quite good. They're gonna be having a show here next Tuesday at a >small venue, plus an in-store performance at a cd store here several hourse >befoe the show. :) I like them. I saw K's Choice first at Pinkpop festival in Holland. The show was just perfect. I bought their cd and recommend everybody to do the same. Now I understand why I can't find concert dates in Europe anymore. She's playing in the states. Enjoy their performance and hope you will like it. _____________________________________ AJ wrote: > Hi All! Hi! >I should know; I grew up in Leavenworth. My cousins went to school with Melissa. Wow, this is interesting stuff..... How did she do in school. What were her scores? What coarses were her best? What did she like most at school? Who were her friends? Did she do her homework everyday? (I would like to know everything, you know........... (:-D) ) >But Shrine Park is not "Shriner's Park". I believe Shriner's Park is >either in, or in a town near, Santa Barbara. (Anyone from there have >anything to add?) WHAT? Are you telling me Melissa has lied all the time? >Indeed, the VA hospital is set on sprawling acres toward the south of >town. That federal land has, at various points in time, been referred to >as "Wadsworth", "The Old Soldiers' Home", and simply "the VA". OK, not all she says is wrong. It's a relieve. >The Missouri river ("the mighty muddy Mo'") does run past Leavenworth, >though not "through" it. Past and through is the same to me. If the river was about 50 miles away I would say it's worth to mention it. As a person who worked in a Research lab I was happy with something what was close to the thing you are searching for. In such a larg country as the states are 10 miles nothing. >If indeed the landmarks described by ME were in order on a continuous >route, she is describing Leavenworth before 1989, possibly WAY before that. She mentioned in an dutch interview that SP was written with her first love in her mind. So I think it's sure that it is before '89. Greetings, Marcel (from one of the smallest countries in the world ;-D ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:56:08 -0500 From: Laura Politano Subject: Boston Hey Fellow Listers, Thanks to everyone that responded to my questions about Boston. I appreciate you all taking the time to write. If there's any more of you out there, plese, don't hold back. Also, just wanted to share, that as of yesterday I am the proud new owner of a beautiful, black, '96 Nissan Pathfinder. Jake (my dog) will love the ride up to Boston in it. Needless to say I am a very happy camper! Laura- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:50:26 -0500 From: "A.D.Eder" Subject: storytellers ME on storytellers was truly one of the most enjoyable shows ever...i thought she was absolutely fantastic...again, the consumate performer and storyteller...the insight into her songs was excellent, and i love listening to her , alone with her guitar.....thanks ME for a great hour......andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:33:17 +0100 From: Margaret McArdle Subject: California.."Let me Go" !!!! Please help, anyone that can. I am a fan from Ireland,when in the future I recall 1996 the only memories I'll let myself think of are the 3 Melissa concerts I was fortunate enough to attend as the rest of the year sucked.Between constant promotion pass-overs,a failed Immigration attempt to the U.S. & personal tragedy this has been a dismal 12 months,what could redeem its memory is a place on the MEIN package. What Santa is having a problem with is getting me to California. My friend & I are seriously in debt but what the hell,we have no vacation time left but could concoct the story that we've "won" a weekend in L.A,my employers know the year from hell I've had so I could secure about 4 days off,the schedule would be punishing;coming from Ireland we'd probably be travelling 17 hours there,not to mention the same back pre-Christmas that would be hell but as I'm sure this forum will agree MLE is definately worth it. Do any of you have travel agency / airline connections ??? I think we can get there the Thurs/Fri but we need to be home Christmas Eve as we're both working. We're in debt to the eye-balls but would appreciate any help as this would just make our year, we wait in hope, Margaret & Joanne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:11:18 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: That Pub Crawl group (again) We were going to hond everyone when we got home last night, but we were too tired!! The gang left my place at 9AM to go get Beth and Sheila, who stayed with Elizabeth, who did catch up with us!! Shirl wanted to get home in time for the Eagles game on the tube. We watched a tape of Storytellers this morning. But we did get to see it at Sisters last night. We didn't get to hear the thing because of the Dance Music thumpping in our ears! I am going to leave it to Sue for the dialog of last night. She took notes in case of our intoxication and for quotes! We had a blast and I hope that more will join us when we do this again!! Is it NYC next time??? Francie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 12:33:47 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: "Storytellers" question In one of the commercial bumpers, Melissa said something like "I consider this a sad song, people come up to me and say 'We played that at our wedding' and I'm surprised." I don't remember hearing that during the show itself. Was it just me? If so, can anyone tell me what song she was referring to? -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) matthewb@li.net http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 10:05:46 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: "Storytellers" question On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Redsocks wrote: > In one of the commercial bumpers, Melissa said something like "I consider > this a sad song, people come up to me and say 'We played that at our > wedding' and I'm surprised." I don't remember hearing that during the show > itself. Was it just me? If so, can anyone tell me what song she was > referring to? "You Can Sleep While I Drive" Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 13:45:24 -0500 From: SbHarvick at aol Subject: Memphis Hi Everyone, It's been a while since I de-lurked, and I did have so many things I wanted to add my .02 to, but now I can't seem to find them. Oh, well. I'm curious about who all's goin' to Memphis (that's "St. Louis speak")? We're going to be leaving Friday, 11/22, and staying 'til Sunday. If anyone's planning on pre-show activities, please let me know. I thought Storytellers was a *great* show last night. Fortunately, I taped it, 'cause I was on the phone for practically the entire show. I don't remember which listers were there, but it seems someone posted about being right up front. Did you appear on camera?? Anyway, I guess I'm going back to lurk mode, now. I'll talk to y'all soon, Susie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 11:50:37 -0600 From: Pam Crago Subject: Shriner's Park AJ said: Subject: Philly Pub Crawl & Honda's Hi folks ! Just on my way home from the Philly Pub Crawl... yes, survival of yet another list get-together !! I am not *even* going to comment on all of the festivites, except to say that whatever you read about the rest of them is entirely true - and whatever you read about me, SueD. (Brenda Starr - reporter) is making up ! Other than that, I had a good time ! Anyway, in my absence, I see we have some new Honda driving babes: Michelle wrote: >Well, today was the day!! I am now the PROUD owner of a 1997 Honda Accord >EX!!!(Help, I need a nickname. I've noticed at least a few Michelle's on the >list!!) How bout Michelle (the Honda driving babe)? Beth (the Honda driving chick magnet) is what distinguishes me from other Beth's on the list - well, that... and a few other things, but anyway... Sasha wrote: >Well...I am also a new PROUD owner of a Honda, only mine is a 97 silver >civic LX...I am also one happy lister... Cool! Yet another HOB (Honda Owner's Bunch) member. Maybe someday we'll have enough people to have a MElister HOB get-together ! my girl Shirl(the other Honda driving chic magnet)wrote to the latest HOB members: >Congratulations on the Honda purchase!! I recently became the proud owner >of the cutest Lil Blue Honda CRX myself. I'm sure Beth D(Honda Driving Chic >Magnet)herself will be catching up with you as soon as she is feeling better. Right you are babe. You know I can't resist *them* Honda's - or those who *drive* them. Cherries? What cherries? *lol* Okay gone to study for my test now. See ya! Beth (who lived up to her title this weekend at least once) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:20:33 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: Philly Pub Crawl & Honda's Randy here...YES, I survived my 'first' gathering, I'm no longer a virgin...SueD, wipe that smile offa you face! Beth Durff wrote: > festivites, except to say that whatever you read about the rest of them is > entirely true NOT! > - and whatever you read about me, SueD. (Brenda Starr - reporter) is making up ! Now, THAT'S right. The making up part, I mean. > who *drive* them. Cherries? What cherries? *lol* I'm not even gonna go there. > Beth (who lived up to her title this weekend at least once) Is 30 seconds a new record, Beth? -- Nice People Swallow ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 15:20:14 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Philly Pub Crawling SueD & Shirl here at what is left of Camp Hoffman. Way too much fun this weekend. Francie you are the sweetest, thanks for showing us around your town and for opening your home to us. The first pub visited was Gargoyles and we performed our traditional first toast to kick off the List gatheering, "Mean People Suck". We then took to "The Streets of Philadelphia"(Bruce singing in the background)led by Francie in search of the Sam Adams Brew House. We found the pub and my Mecca was finally upon me. A bar where the only beer they served was Sam Adams. What was a gal like me to do??? Sue interjects with, "Succomb"! We then took back to the streets and headed for Sisters. This is a great women's bar/dance club. If you are ever in the area make sure to check it out. Spotted lots of interesting folks while we were there. My personal favorite was Benny Hill dressed in drag...no kidding, I wanted to ask for an autograph but didn't want to hurt his feelings. We met up with Stephanie while we were there, what a nice gal! You know that you will be required to attend all of our festivities from this point forward. I'm exhausted from running from Beth all evening and my sides hurt from SueD keeping me in hysterics all weekend. :] Sue has lots of great quotes for everyone, keep in mind that we never embellish... just the facts ma'am. SueD for your reading pleasure: Well, it is awfully hard to gather my thoughts enough to post coherently since there was soooo much material to choose from. As a preview of how things actually went all night, let me present a few choice tidbits of conversation that floated through the night: Shirl screaming take this thing off as we drove down to Philly. Francie admitted (willingly) that she has tan breasts... Beth offered Shirl her cherry at Gargoyles (the start of Shirl's implementation of those evasive tactics learned while in the Navy) Randy stating she had never made it that far...hmmmmm SueD perusing the menu and admitting that she always wanted to eat a Quaker (but no offense meant John Juan) That is just a taste of things to come. We were treated to a special ride from Elizabeth Meadows when we discovered that she was a municipal bus driver in a previous life. In order to get back from Sisters we all piled into Elizabeth's snappy little Saturn. What do you think a car full of eight overzealous Melissa crazed listers is like? (besides crowded) Quite a sight as we traversed the streets of Philly. Many we passed had to look twice to ensure that the alcohol had not fogged their brains! Our hats are off to Saturn, their suspension system withstood the most grueling test we could devise. Thank you Elizabeth, and say HI to your friendly neighborhood parking authority! Shirl, any other words here? She claims exhaustion as do I. What a great time! Texas is next...then look out BABers, another event must be scheduled for Christmas. Take care all, Shirl & SueD ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:54:26 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: What did she mean? Hey you all, I've got 2 questions that I posted on AOL board but haven't got an answer on. So I thought I'd try it here. I read in one of MLE's interviews that she thought it would be the "bisexuals in the world that would make the change" for gays and lesbians. What did she mean by that? Also, why exactly are same sex marriages illegal? I'm not trying to be funny; it just doesn't seem like it's a very "Constitutional" thing for a type of marriage to be disallowed. Also, I loved storytellers although I didn't like the crowd; too "staged" in my opinion. And I wish they wouldn't have cut it up like they did. At first, I didn't like the way MLE dismissed the question about which song meant the most emotionally to her as being "ridiculous". Then she threw the card away. I thought to myself, "if that would've been my question, I'd have been really hurt that she did that". But then, I considered the crowd and figured that question couldn't have come from a die hard MLE fan or they wouldn't have asked it. So maybe it was kind of a ridiculous question! Anyways, thanks for listening. Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:59:34 -0500 From: "D. Jessamyn Scott Breed" Subject: Storytellers: ISO YCSWID Hello Storytellers viewers...Wondering if me (and my VCR tape) missed something: Did anyone else see the lead-in clip which alluded to YCSWID (MLE: "The song is sad, but several people use it in their weddings") But then (on my tape) YCSWID did not appear in the show? After the commercial, there was the segment with the questions and then she played Testify... I need some sanity of a more permanent variety ;} Can anyone fill in the blank? thanks! -J ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:03:08 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: MLETHER Digest - 8 Nov 1996 to 9 Nov 1996 CJ wrote: ML>Melissa's part is actually just the ML>video from 2001 playing in the background during the opening scene. Actually Melissa also is the woman who apparently is a prostitute(?) who is sitting next to the main character on the bench in the jail lobby when she's waiting for that guy to come pick her up. You know, the woman who is smoking and gives the other a cigarette? It's not a great movie, I still don't understand what happened at the end, but it was amusing. Sorta maybe like a low budget(?) A Fish Called Wanda. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 18:20:31 -0500 From: Loretta Myers Subject: Storytellers The woman is amazing. She looked great, and you could actually see her face most of the time. I loved the songs she sang and was so glad she sang and talked about "Watching You." It is so wonderful the way she talks so openly about the feelings that went into the songs, feelings that anyone can relate to. When we see her in something like that, we know that she is one rock star who will never miss a concert because she is falling down drunk or stoned out of her mind, and that we'll never read in the paper about her trashing a hotel room or running out on a debt. In short, she is respectable as well as an incredibly talented musician, songwriter and singer. I can't wait until the 18th and the Houston concert. Loretta ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 16:13:27 -0800 From: velt1682 Subject: Re: Leavenworth, Storytellers, fingerings, etc. Hi all!!! First, thank you AJ and everyone else for the info on Leavenworth. I have never been there myself (not even through or in Kansas), and looking at a 50 year old map doesn't exactly give me an impression of what it would look like now. And on the "might Mo" river...if I remember correctly, the Mo is the boarder between Kansas and Missouri (sp?) and is right next to, if not in, Leavenworth. Melissa answered the question about the box cars on Storytellers last night, but since I don't have a copy of it playing for me ( I'm in my college's computer center), I couldn't tell you where she said they were, just that there were a lot of them. On to Storytellers.... I don't think they played YCSWID, unless I missed it, but that was probably the song she was talking about for the marriage thing. Did anyone else think ME was going to cry when she was playing Testify. She looked so sad when she was singing it.... Anyone figure out what fingerings she was using for the opening of Testify. Since I don't have the tape (and I was too rapped up in watching her), I haven't been able to look at the fingerings that closely. I think the Bmin she was playing was: X 9 9 7 0 0 and the G was: X 5 5 4 0 0 (basically a barred G minus the bar) It sounds ok when I play it, but I'm not sure. Ok, on the toddler name game...I like the name Austin, I'm not sure about Cypheridge (or however it's spelled). Personally, I've always been a fan of hyphenated names. However, whatever name they choose will be what they choose, and I certainly don't have any power of persuasion over their decision, so I wish them the best. Well, this has gotten too long, so till next time!!! Kirstin velt1682@tao.sosc.osshe.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 17:40:06 -0600 From: Pam Crago Subject: New Orleans and MLE Hi all, This has been a great week. Three MLE concerts and New Orleans was the best of the three. Have you ever had one of those days when all the gods are smiling with you? Well Saturday was one of them. My 12 year old daughter and I set out for New Orleans from Pensacola. It was her first concert and I thought what better one to take her to. Melissa was unbelievable. You could tell the rest on Friday did her good. MEIN was good to us with 4th row tics. For those of you into fashion she was not wearing those black vinyl/leather pants but black spandix ones instead. She also was wearing a black tshirt with a blue silk blouse that had a black tied dyed look on the bottom and sleeves. The boots were the black ones still and they look like dyed alligator or something. Oh, and she was having a great hair day. It looked like it was just blown dry and looked great. The songs were pretty much the same as everyone has previously listed. This night though she added Yes I Am and Meet Me In The Back. The later song she got the whole crowd into it and it went on and on. None of us wanted her to stop. She kept laughing and saying "Hey I am making this up as I go". MLE did not know how people could live in New Orleans with jambalya and hurricanes so available. She also send if she ever wanted to run away she knew where to go. She also spoke again of Silent Legacy. She said she never met the girl but she had met the father. He told her he had just thrown his 14 year old daughter out of the house because he caught her with her boyfriend. Melissa said she really did not say anything to the father but thought hmmm that isn't right. She said when she got a way and sat and thought about it what she thought was she couldn't understand why we punish ourselves and our children for doing something so natural. She talked a lot on Saturday but most of her dialogue has already been on the list. When she came back to the front stage my daughter went running to get close. Everyone was so nice letting her get up close. At one point Kenny was playing the drums and his stick broke. He threw it in our direction but we could not catch it. My little girl just gave me this look. Then this lady standing next to us who had the stick said "how old is she?" Well I told her and said it was her first concert. She leaned over and gave my daughter the stick to my amazement and told her everyone should have something to remember her first concert. If that woman is on this list I THANK YOU again. On the drive home I was looked up at the sky and CTMW just started on the radio. When all of a sudden a shooting star went across in the sky. I made a wish like any intelligent person would do. Then I looked over at my daughter sound asleep in the seat next to me. She had a smile on her face and in her hand the drumstick. Then I knew my wishes had come true already. My only regret is I can't get off work to head to Texas. Watch out Texas she is on her way. Pam ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 17:40:14 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: Storytellers: ISO YCSWID On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, D. Jessamyn Scott Breed wrote: > Did anyone else see the lead-in clip which alluded to YCSWID > (MLE: "The song is sad, but several people use it in their weddings") > But then (on my tape) YCSWID did not appear in the show? > Can anyone fill in the blank? Mike, help me out but I don't think she played YCSWID at the taping, but she did talk about it. In fact, she did this with a bunch of songs (talk about them but didn't play them) and she started joking about doing this. Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:31:55 -0500 From: Sooz911@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Austin, Philly, & Seattle/Tacoma >>Shirl lamented: >>The second love of my life(Jen Azzi) was beaten???? Afraid so! I enjoyed watching her...er the game...very much! (Great arms!) The Reign won again last night too. Gotta' love it! >>We will include you in the evenings round of toasts for missing comrades. >>We always start our gatherings with a "Mean People Suck" toast and then >>move on to toasting all the special nice people. Just read your post of the gathering & it sounds like everyone had fun as usual! >>I'd love to put some pictures up for the rest of the list to enjoy. I am >>working on a release form and Sue D will be bringing it with her. Sounds great to me! I'm going to have web page but possibly not until after the first of the year. >>Sue D then added: >> I too am looking forward to meeting up with folks in the great NW. A whole >>new bunch of faces to connect with names on the list. It should be >>interesting to see Melissa while we are all encased under that huge dome >>of cement in Tacoma. (I still don't understand why they built that thing >>that way, but I am no architect) Regardless, the time can't pass too >>quickly! Well we can't wait to have you out here! The Tacoma Dome is wood though. This was found to be a bad thing when some idiot shot off a flare gun at an AC/DC concert a few years back & caught the thing on fire! Made for an interesting show though. The Kingdome...now that's made of concrete & it's quite a bit uglier than the Tacoma Dome I think. Bad sound too. If anyone else is out there planning to go to the Tacoma WA or Portland OR shows, get in touch if you want to get together with us before/after/during the shows! Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 22:47:17 -0500 From: Diane Boccadoro Subject: This Idiot Missed Storytellers! Kiva wrote: >I hope everyone enjoyed Storytellers as much as I did I would have ... IF I HAD SEEN IT!!! Somebody just slap me please for getting brain fade at the worst possible time. I know the date was posted umpteen times, and I knew it was this weekend, but when I watched the Storytellers with Ray Davies and Elvis and Jackson Brown, they were all on SUNDAYS! So last night while all of you were watching MLE, I was, well, NOT! After watching the Rangers blow what could have been a potential win over the Caps late in the 3rd period, I got disgusted and, yes, went to bed by 10:15. [I know, pretty sad for a Saturday night. But I'm married and 30, which pretty much means I'm lame, and having taken in a movie earlier that afternoon, I'd had my fill of excitement. ;)] I rushed home from a friend's house tonight and did laundry early just to make sure I'd be ready to watch MLE with no distractions. Then I find out Michael Jackson's entire life story or something is monopolizing VH1 tonight. So I rushed upstairs to read Sunday's digest to find out what the story is, and I find Kiva's post. Sure enough, in black and white in my TV Guide, Saturday at 10 p.m., MLE on VH1 Storytellers. AAHHHH! So if anyone knows when it is going to be rerun (I know it will about a billion times), please have mercy and post it or let me know via e-mail. I don't think it will be this week, though. I have a very advanced cable system and it gives me the programming schedule on-screen for all channels for the next 5-6 days, and Storytellers was not on it. On a semi-bright note, I won a radio call-in contest today. I was the 25th caller to WPLJ in NY and won a "Big 80s" CD set with all 80s tunes. (Jealous, Tracey and Elizabeth?) Of course, last week my cousin won $20,000 (yes, $20,000) on another station, WKTU, for being the 103rd caller to phone in when they played The Macarena. So I guess that CD set isn't so impressive after all. Anyway, I'm done venting. Well, I really won't be done till I get to see Storytellers, but this is all I'll subject you to. BTW, I don't remember who posted about the movie Romeo and Juliet, but I agree 100%. It has the be one of the best movies I've ever seen, and I'm pretty critical. Run, don't walk, to see it, especially if you like Leonardo DiCaprio. He was brilliant! Diane B. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:04:27 EST From: SueL <103131.341@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: Hdden Cameras Mico wrote: >However, we must not forget that those socks you placed in there to throw >off any suspicious security guards did nothing to "enhance" Thelma and >Louise, did they? Ummm.....enhancement is not something I need!!! I didn't even have socks on my feet, let alone stuffed in my bra! >The real test would be to see where Thelma and Louise park their >Thunderbird ;) >Now, if you could handle that...then I "might" be inclined to admit that you >are "somewhat" well endowed :) HEY! I pass the pencil test! I've never tried a Thunderbird though! I guess I could borrow a Matchbox from my nephew for verification of my ENDOWMENT! For those unfamiliar, Bette Midler had a 'pencil test' for ladies to use to determine whether or not they require a bra. It goes as follows: 1. Lift Breast 2. Place pencil under breast 3. Lower breast If the pencil doesn't drop, you require a bra! Joyce wrote: >ps--actually, you are ALL sweeties for taking me to the airport so early. It was our pleasure Joyce! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 23:20:41 -0500 From: Sue Molyneaux Subject: Counterfeit CD, promo CD > Hi all > > Kelly obtained a couple of compilation CDs. Here's the info, for all > those obsessive completists out there, and as a warning: > > "Now Playing" is a BMG Music/In-Store Play Sampler. Volume 4 includes I > take You With Me (4:48). It's a promo, and the one she has is Canadian > (eh). Release date April 1995. Catalogue # KCDP-51296 > > She also picked up Billboard Mega Hits on P&C (an SLS production). > Catalogue # SLS7040. Melissa's name is spelled incorrectly ("Etherige") > but we all know that happens . However, it *isn't* Melissa, but a > soundalike! There is nothing on the CD which mentions that these aren't > the original artists, but none of them are. The CD includes such > luminaries as Janet Jackson, "Cheryl" Crow, Elton John, the Cranberries, > Bon Jovi. It looks pretty authentic... they even copied the trademark > colours of Billboard Magazine. It includes a picture of Annie Lennox on > the cover, but doesn't even pretend to cover one of her songs. > > I wonder if Island Records knows that Melissa's tunes are being sung by > soundalikes... it used to happen quite a bit. That's why, on those K-Tel > recors of yesteryear, you'd get phrases like "Original Hits! Original Stars!" ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 9 Nov 1996 to 10 Nov 1996 ************************************************* From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Mon Nov 11 17:50:08 1996 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:49:24 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 10 Nov 1996 to 11 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 00:45:20 -0400 From: Tegan Godwin Subject: CA bound I'm going to CA to see ME in concert. Doing to package deal. I'm coming from NH. Can anyone email me about where to stay prior to the arrangements and what wonderful things I should do to make this trip more memorable (not that it won't be). email me privately. Thanks :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 22:49:11 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Judds (NMEC) Are there any Judds fans out there (enter faint sound of wind, crickets chirp). Yesterday at work I saw all the Judds albums were being pulled and returned because a new distributer will be handling the product. I figured they would repackage it in a way to get the most bang for their buck so I bought the Essential Judds CD's before It got pulled, and once I played it, I remembered how good they sound. I think next to ME, they have some of THE best voices in the industry. Just a little side note for the Country fans. (I hope I don't get labeled as a Country fan (not that that is bad), I just like a few select artists) Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:27:38 +1038 From: Jud Subject: Best wishes from Down Under (NMEC) Gudday all!! Just thought I'd say farethewell to my extended family and wish you all the best for the coming festive season Yeah, it's funny just how much you miss email and chatting to folks on the list when you're deprived of your electronic umbilical cord. I have to shift home this summer in an effort to save some denarios for next year at university....ah, such is the life of a student...well, at least this student downunder. The glorious thing for me about shifting home this summer is not only do I get to catch up with my folks and save money on rent : ) but it's also made a trip to the States that much more realistically possible. Yes!! I'm going to be venturing Stateside to spend Christmas and New Year, and more, with a wayward TexaRse woman (waving to Liz). I expect I'll be corrupted by the time I venture back.... this kiwi is going to try and maintain her gleaming reputation 31 days to go now and I can't wait...well, for everything after the 17hr flight I s'pose...but hey! at least I gain a day crossing that intangible line in the Pacific I look forward to meeting a few more MEListers while I'm over there too Yeah, I expect to get the crap hassled out of me cos of my quaint downunder accent too I'll miss reading about everyone's antics, concert reviews and general musings while I'm away. But be assured I'll be back sometime in Feb. Until then, take care all...enjoy the upcoming concerts like only MEListers can and have a great festive season... Spot ya later possums!!! Jud ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 05:50:53 -0500 From: Michael Bunch Subject: Re: Storytellers: YCSWID On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Allison wrote: >Mike, help me out but I don't think she played YCSWID at the taping, but >she did talk about it. In fact, she did this with a bunch of songs (talk >about them but didn't play them) and she started joking about doing this. Yes, I seem to remember it. I remember the end of the story made more sense within the song when she explained that the person was leaving the other at the end of it, which is why it was sad. Eileen??? I did give you the pick and setlist, a recap, please??? Good show but the Silent Lagacy and 2001 stories were gone as were the Royal Station story but I didn't expect those since she only teased us with them and didn't play the complete songs. The 2001 story was a good one though. My "democrat" comment made the show but alas no credit as official "water boy" :-( Michael :-) (very glad I wore black but there's no mistaking my laugh) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 05:09:23 -0800 From: AJ Subject: Pardon me, folks. Hey Everyone! I just finished reading Marcel's response to my Leavenworth posting. That posting and various private mailings stung quite a bit. Sorry folks, but I really did not intend to come off as a know-it-all. I OBVIOUSLY do not know it all, as Marcel's post points out. I just thought some folks might be interested in the smaller details, Marcel. Am I mistaken in my perception that your response was laced with large doses of sarcasm, or were you being sincere in your questions? I really am not able to tell from this medium. One loses quite a bit without the benefit of non-verbal cues. So, I also gather from Marcel's response that ME must have, in some interview, stated the song "Shriner's Park" was definitely set in Leavenworth, and is not the product of some poetic-license amalgamation. That's what I thought was the case. Anyone else from Leavenworth (or from anywhere, for that matter) have anything to add on that point? As for Melissa's school activities (if that was a sincere question), I really don't know. What's more I don't really have much of a way of finding out either. My cousins have always been pretty much of the attitude that lesbians and gays should either be shot, or at least locked up in an asylum, to protect such good, decent citizens as themselves. So even broaching the topic of ME, nay, even talking to them, is out of the question. Pam--thanks for the Leavenworh update. I left there over 7 years ago. Haven't really kept up on the changes. Just my $.02 worth AJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:30:02 -0500 From: Cheryl Cornell Subject: Re: Judds (NMEC) Yes! I have been a fan since the Farewell Tour. It was so sad to see them disban (I miss them), but Wy is great as a solo! Their 3-CD box set is very good too. I met Wy backstage a couple of years ago. She is very nice. Every concert gets better than the last. Cheryl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:38:14 -0500 From: Subject: I'm glad I wasn't the only one left wondering which song Melissa was referring to when she said "I consider this a sad song, people come up to me and say 'We played that at our wedding' and I'm surprised." To all those on the list that said she was talking about YCSWID - How do you know? Were you the lucky ones who were there when it was being taped or had you heard her talk about the song previously? Thanks for filling my girlfriend and I in on the answer. We spent the weekend going through all of Melissa's songs trying to guess which one she was talking about. Take care all. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:57:27 -0500 From: Tei at netcom Subject: partial digest// other things Hello all... tei here.... Hey I was just reading my digest from last night...(It usually comes through around midnight to 1am eastern time for me) anyway it is 9 Nov to 10 Nov... My digest is cut off in the middle of message #14. Philly Pub Crawl & Honda's (2) could someone please send me what I didn't get.... including Message #14? At the beginning of the digest it says that there are 29 Messages and I have 24 listed.... but alas only got partway through #14. If anyone has the entire issue.... I would be completely grateful if someone could forward it to me.... And Laura.... Hope you and your dog jake have a fantastic ride to Boston.... Glad to hear you will be close to us NHIB's...!!! To edgy... So that was you to melissa's left on storytellers huh? To all others... Hope you are definatly in time for any smackerals being served... and have a friendly day indeed!!! 4 days to texas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YH!!!! tei! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:03:47 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: Pardon me, folks. AJ said: >>That's what I thought was the case. Anyone else from Leavenworth (or from anywhere, for that matter) have anything to add on that point?<< Don't know for myself *personally*, but I have spoken with someone from Leavenworth who went to school with Melissa who seemed to think that Shrine Park was Shriner's Park. She was telling me that it's all condos now. She also said that Shrine Park was not the big make-out park; that was some other park that all the teens went to. Then again, I suppose Melissa probably would've desired more privacy anyway. ;-) Really, it's not a big thing, and I hope your feelings aren't hurt. I actually thought Marcel sounded excited and was eager for you to share more of what you knew. I know you certainly piqued *my* curiosity! And there is room in this world for more than one opinion. Take care, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:19:17 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: MEC: Article - St. Petersburg Times Cynthia Donohue posted an excellent article: >EVERYWHERE TO GO >By ERIC DEGGANS, Times Pop Music Critic >St. Petersburg Times, St. Petersburg, Florida >November 1, 1996 > In fact, Etheridge is hoping that journalists will be so busy >covering Madonna's new baby, Lourdes, that they'll just forget about >her and Cipher completely. "Yeah, maybe 60 Minutes will camp out on >her doorstep instead of mine," the singer says, laughing. If the press hounds her, she can hardly cry foul with the way she's publicized it. > But [YLS] sales stalled at just over 1-million, hampered by a >lack of radio play and near-palpable disinterest in the marketplace. Interesting to see this verified, that's definitely the impression I've had. >Some wondered if her up front lyrics relating to life and love as a >lesbian - ranging from the hard-rocking title track and the >simmering-to-soaring groove An Unusual Kiss to the driving anthem >Nowhere to Go - may have put off a mainstream rock audience that's >still not totally comfortable with her sexuality. Oh puh-leeeease. When YIA did well, the public didn't care, when YLS didn't do well, maybe they do?! > Etheridge lays the blame on another culprit: her own desire to >get a new record into stores quickly. Now, here's where I thought she was going to admit that the songs on YLS are sub-standard, but instead... >"It really was a case of me >putting out something a little too soon ... cutting off the success >of the last record with this one," she says. "I'm still selling as >many copies of Yes I Am as Your Little Secret. . . I'm at that point >where people are wondering which songs are on which albums." Ah, well. > And just like the guys in Hootie, Etheridge realizes that the >chart-busting success of Yes I Am may be a pinnacle she'll never reach >again, anyway. "I think I finally penetrated the world of popular >music with Yes I Am, and I'm going to have a steady career that >sometimes is really up and sometimes is just okay," she says. "Besides, >this album has some of the best songs I've ever written. Eek! Such as...? >I think it's going to sell slowly and steady for the rest of my life." Well, the rest of her career, probably, like all of her albums. > "I got him (Aronoff) to play a few tracks on (Little Secret), >and I fell in love with him," she says. "When he parted ways with >John and gave me a call, I had to say yes. It was a tough decision, >but I wanted to take the opportunity to play with one of the >drummers of my dreams... He just takes it to another level." Ah, so she *did* dump Dave Beyer. > For his part, Aronoff knew he could light a spark under >Etheridge's live show. "Her previous drummer was very good, but >her people told me they needed something extra - a fire in the band," >says the drummer. I knew from working with her in the studio that >I could kick in what she needed." What she needs it better songs, not a better band, though the latter can help distract from the poor material and the recycled performances. > "I've toured for eight years straight..... and that needs to >change," she says. "Child or no child - I need a break. I want >people to look around and say, 'Where did that Melissa Etheridge >go, anyway?' " I think the break will do all of us some good. -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-11 12:19 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I'd probably be famous now/ if I wasn't such a good waitress" - Jane Siberry, "The Waitress" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:36:22 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Storytellers Redsocks wrote: >In one of the commercial bumpers, Melissa said something like "I consider >this a sad song, people come up to me and say 'We played that at our >wedding' and I'm surprised." I don't remember hearing that during the show >itself. Was it just me? If so, can anyone tell me what song she was >referring to? Yeah, she's referring to YCSWID. I also thought it was strange that they used that quote for the bumper and then neglected to put it in context in the show! Tori and I thought "Storytellers" was great... reminded us of what we love about MLE. Looking forward to seeing her in more intimate settings again, hopefully with songs as good as WY and NS. I got so sentimental hearing all of those old songs. I wish they hadn't moved CtMW up in the set list (the set list Allison posted showed that the songs were played in order of release, with CtMW after YIA, not after WY)). Other than that, I think the only difference between the show and the program was that they left out KiP and some chat about songs she never played (at least, judging from Allison and Michael's posts, which I saved). =-=-=<>=-=-= Kathy at aol wrote: >Also, I loved storytellers although I didn't like the crowd; too "staged" in >my opinion. I didn't care at all for the photography; it would seem to me that a simple affair like that deserves simple direction. And what was up with all that make-up?! But overall, it's a highlight of my collection, her performance was great. -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-11 13:36 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ___________________________________________________________________________ "Some chick says/ 'thank you for saying all the things I never do'/ I say 'you know the thanks I get/ is to take all the shit for you/ it's nice that you listen/ it'd be nicer if you joined in/ as long as you play their game girl/ you're never gonna win" - Ani DiFranco, "Face Up and Sing" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:36:22 -0500 From: Deb Subject: SMEC: Miscellany Tim Dunker wrote quite a while ago: >watch out for the B side to Bryan Adam`s next single !!!!!!! >YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS ME+ba - "It's only love" (recorded at Wembley, this >summer) Let me tell you it was a GREAT duet. >I heard that it will be published in the US and probably in Europe, too. Has anyone heard any more about this? =-=-=<>=-=-= edgy wrote: >If the music sounds familiar, it's probably because CTMW has a very common >chord progression. I remember someone talking last year about how Shawn >Colvin was joking at a show that CTMW and Leaving Las Vegas had the same >exact chord progression and that she had better write a song with the same >so that she could have a hit. That was just before she launched into her "Polaroids" medley, in which she segues into a dozen or so songs with the same chord progression as that song of hers. :) =-=-=<>=-=-= Sue Molyneaux wrote: >I recall, many years ago now, a fellow who told the list that he >had sex with Melissa (in fact, she was apparently so enthralled >with him that she threw him her hotel key while he as in the >audience of one of her concerts). That's the only "claim" I've ever >heard of To be fair, if we're thinking of the same incident, that was a sarcastic remark, intended to be humorous. =-=-=<>=-=-= HOLMES V O wrote: >I know that all you out there in lister land do trades very often... >Have you ever had someone back out on a trade after you have already sent >them the goods? No... I'm very careful. I have a lot of lurkers write and ask me for stuff, but I generally only trade with people who contribute to the list and have done so for a while. It's really the only measure of trust-worthiness we have here. I see many people that I've never seen post before post asking for things, and I think the best way to reach those folks is a tape tree or a blanks exchange (if you're feeling generous), not a one-to-one trade. Once you've been ripped off, though, I'd give them a deadline after which you'll send a warning to the list, to prevent others from making the same mistake with that person. But give them a chance -- a lot of people, including me, are very slow to get these things done. But I *always* respond to inquiries, which would seem to be a minimum expectation. =-=-=<>=-=-= roger zender wrote: > I'm just sitting here at work and listening to B&C (what a great >job!). Anyway, I just hear SD and was trying to think of what it meant. >I know that B&C was during her "unknown" years, Less known, anyway; all of her albums sold pretty well. >so does "my love is only >skin deep" mean that she is with a guy but her real love is with another >woman? Or is it just left up for grabs to what the person listening >wants to think. I think all music is left to the audience's interpretation, but I think "Skin Deep" is clearly about a purely physical relationship. Her love is only skin deep, just as beauty is only skin deep. "Just tell me if you like it or not..." (whew, those were the days... what a great song...) =-=-=<>=-=-= Kathy at aol wrote: >Although......I've always wondered what she needed "protection" from >in Meet Me In The Back! MMitB is an old song, and she added those lyrics before recording it. But to answer your question, AIDS can be transmitted via lesbian sex too, and the protection a lesbian might use include dental dams, gloves, and yes, even condoms. =-=-=<>=-=-= Mike Lieman wrote: >And the difference between a really good car stereo, and headphones, >regarding isolation from the outside is, what? > >I don't really see any, but it doesn't sound like a great idea. I agree on both counts. You can wear headphones, or you can crank up a good stereo to the point that you can't hear sirens, horns, etc. Both are equally dangerous. But the difference is that you can listen to a stereo safely, but headphones block other sounds by default, that's why they're illegal in many places. I agree with Rhondda -- do without the CDs in the car, or spend a few bucks to listen safely. =-=-=<>=-=-= Kathy at aol wrote: >I read in one of MLE's interviews that she thought it would be the "bisexuals >in the world that would make the change" for gays and lesbians. What did she >mean by that? I'm trying to remember the context of that remark, and I don't know that she explained it further than that, so your specualation is as good as mine. My interpretation would be that bisexuals can help straight and gay people understand each other (or some similarly naive idea ). >Also, why exactly are same sex marriages illegal? Most of the arguments boil down to: because they always have been. Distractions like the inability to have children get thrown in on occasion, but are withdrawn as soon as you suggest that infertile straight couples, (including older married couples) and couples not wanting children have their marriage licenses revoked. And there's always those who like to quote scripture even though we have both freedom of religion (including the right to have none) and a theoretical separation of church and state in the U.S. -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-11 13:36 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ___________________________________________________________________________ "I was a terrible waitress, so I started to write songs" - Ani DiFranco, "Hell Yeah" "I'd probably be famous now/ if I wasn't such a good waitress" - Jane Siberry, "The Waitress" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:31:49 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: SMEC: Miscellany > roger zender wrote: > > > I'm just sitting here at work and listening to B&C (what a great > >job!). Anyway, I just hear SD and was trying to think of what it meant. > >I know that B&C was during her "unknown" years, > > Less known, anyway; all of her albums sold pretty well. I actually meant, unknown as far as her sexuality, not her record sales. > > >so does "my love is only > >skin deep" mean that she is with a guy but her real love is with another > >woman? Or is it just left up for grabs to what the person listening > >wants to think. > > I think all music is left to the audience's interpretation, but I think > "Skin Deep" is clearly about a purely physical relationship. Her love is > only skin deep, just as beauty is only skin deep. "Just tell me if you like > it or not..." (whew, those were the days... what a great song...) I really like this idea. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:38:04 -0400 From: Mico Subject: Re: Hidden Cameras On Sun. Nov. 10 Ellyn wrote: >Ummm.....enhancement is not something I need!!! >I didn't even have socks on my feet, let alone stuffed in my bra! >HEY! I pass the pencil test! I've never tried a Thunderbird though! I guess >I could borrow a Matchbox from my nephew for verification of my ENDOWMENT! Okay, okay.....I will admit it; you have a nice pair of bookends...er....breasts there Ellyn!! ;) >Joyce wrote: >>ps--actually, you are ALL sweeties for taking me to the airport so early. >It was our pleasure Joyce! :-) BTW, Did that parking ticket we got (thanks to Joyce) ever get paid??? LOL I thought they were going to send it to you, Joyce! Did they?? Later, Mico (who at this point would like nothing better than to be a book!) ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:55:31 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: MEC: Article - St. Petersburg Times Deb, I just have a few questions on your comments throughout the article. I take it you were disappointed with YLS; could you explain that? And what do you mean "we all could use a little break"? Thanks, Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:33:31 EST From: DOUG Subject: NMEC - Judds, Country Music, and Rosie Welcome back to another work week. First, I believe Roger Z. asked about Judds fans...well, I have been a fan of theirs from the beginning. Loved them, still do, although the mother cannot and never could sing...but she was great on harmony. I did get to see them on the Farewell tour and we (my friends and I) teared up...it was electric. The final concert was on December 4th (my birthday) and was on pay-per-view which my sister purchased for me as a gift and I have it on tape. Roger also said he didn't want to be labeled a country fan. Hey, I'm proud to be a country fan. Country music gave us such wonderful performers as Reba, Pam Tillis, Wade Hayes, Goerge Jones & Tammy Wynette...not to mention Mary Chapin Carpenter! Anyhow, just a reminder that tomorrow is Rosie's 100th show and her guests include Marlo Thomas and R*E*B*A!!!!! Hasta la bye-bye, Doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 13:19:41 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: What did she mean? Kathy at aol wrote: > I read in one of MLE's interviews that she thought it would be the "bisexuals > in the world that would make the change" for gays and lesbians. What did she > mean by that? Here's my limited take on the answer. I think it would make a major change for gays and lesbians because of this: Most people in our society see the world as Black or White, this or that, right or wrong. It just seems to be that this is how the society is made up. When really it seems to be a spectrum of choices (which I admit is polarized to the ends) but there are so many choices (gray area) in between. If the straight community (those that is unaccepting of gays) could realize that there are straight people out there that may lean a little toward the "gay" side but still be straight, and vice-versa, then that would shatter their "either, or" beliefs. Though I think it would take a lot more than just that. This is an idea that is pretty hard to put briefly into words. I took an American Culture Studies class that really dealt with this concept and has completely changed the way I look at things. This is how I originally saw things: When you thought anything sexual of the same gender, then you were AUTOmatically gay, like I'm sure a lot of people still do today. I am sooo thankful for that class. Like I said, this is difficult to explain, and I'll be here, ready to better clarify myself, just ask. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:35:29 -0500 From: Laura Politano Subject: Storytellers Hi All, Diane wrote: "......I got disgusted and, yes, went to bed by 10:15. [I know, pretty sad for a Saturday night. But I'm married and 30, which pretty much means I'm lame.............." Diane, Diane, Diane, I'm disappointed. : ) Being 30 and married means no more than............being 30 and married. With the right motivation I guarantee you'd find that wild and crazy girl that once dominated your life. How do you describe yourself at a Melissa concert? I bet 30 and married are not the adjetives that come to mind, hmmm? Anyway, just had to stick my .02 in, in defense of all the "30 and Marrieds" out there. I taped Storytellers. If you're really in a bind, let me know. In response to: >Laura wrote: >> any advice a Melissa fan gives is good advice to me! "Give me all your money." Elaine LOL......I like it Elaine. I do tend to go a little overboard when it comes to trusting my fellow MListers. I think I'll be a little more careful next time. : ) Welcome to winter everyone up here in the North East. Brrrrrrrrrrrr But ~what~ a weekend it was! Laura- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:50:48 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: NMEC - Judds, Country Music, and Rosie Doug said: > Roger also said he didn't want to be labeled a country fan. Hey, I'm > proud to be a country fan. Country music gave us such wonderful > performers as Reba, Pam Tillis, Wade Hayes, Goerge Jones & Tammy > Wynette...not to mention Mary Chapin Carpenter! I guess I was quick to not be labeled as a country fan because at the record store where I work, its a sin to like country. My all time favorite singer next to ME is Reba!!! People know that at work and I really catch grief with it. I guess that is what i get for living in a college town. Some of my other favorites are Trisha Yearwood, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Jo Dee Messina, etc. I'm not much for the male singers though. I do really like David Lee Murphy though. Okay, that's enough rambling. I guess that you could classify me as a closet country fan. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 15:57:38 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: MJ, Storytellers Elaine wrote: >Uh, Aaron, it's theoretically impossible for Michael Jackson to have a >baby I meant *father* a baby. >(I thought you'd gotten all this biology stuff figured out a long >time ago ) Yeah, especially after..well..you know. ;) >- however he has either impregnated or donated sperm to >somebody (who he may or may not have paid $500,000) to have his baby. Ick. Andrea wrote: >ME on storytellers was truly one of the most enjoyable shows ever...i >thought she was absolutely fantastic...again, the consumate performer >and storyteller...the insight into her songs was excellent, and i love >listening to her , alone with her guitar..... That's exactly how I felt -- all around awesome show! :) Testify and Watching You were nice surprises. Actually, I never really like WY before, til I saw her explain it on Storytellers, and now I really can relate to it. Aaron :) "The night is my companion and solitude my guide Would I spend forever here and not be satisfied?" --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:21:06 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: NMEC - Judds, Country Music, and Rosie Roger, Roger, Roger... ***My all time ***favorite singer next to ME is Reba!!! People know that at work and I ***really catch grief with it. Screw 'em! I hate people who think that it is only cool to listen to one type of music. Let me guess...your coworkers listen to alternative? ***Okay, that's enough rambling. I guess that you could classify me as a ***closet country fan. Come out of that closet. Country music has some very talented people. and cute ones too...like wade hayes! Later, Doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:45:02 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: NMEC - Judds, Country Music, and Rosie DOUG wrote: > Screw 'em! I hate people who think that it is only cool to listen to > one type of music. Let me guess...your coworkers listen to > alternative? Actually, they are more Jazz heads, which I like because they are helping me appreciate Jazz / Big Band / Blues / Classical/ etc.. I just have to pay the price for liking other stuff. They are not too bad about it though. > Come out of that closet. Country music has some very talented people. > and cute ones too...like wade hayes! I'd have to agree with you there (I could think of some others other than Wade (sorry)). My main problem with country though is the lack of performers writing their own music. It seems like there is this HUGE market for songwriters. But that is meanial (sp?). Oh, the other thing that I caught crap for was the name of the Kenny Chesney's new album "Me and You." Everyone was saying, "oh that's intelligent" Oh well, Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:33:38 -0500 From: "Susan A. Schinaman" Subject: December Concerts, shopping I'm hoping to find someone who will be willing to pick something up for me at a Melissa concert. I will send the money ahead of time (including postage, of course) along with a little somthing to say thanks. If you can help me out, please reply privately to: ay549@freenet.buffalo.edu. thanks, Sue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:15:57 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: ME on-line Good day, fellow listers! I have been sitting here all morning, watching the snow fall and musing. I had a thought that I pondered about for a bit, and I'd like to pass it on to you. I was thinking that perhaps, in the next several years, what with her being off-tour and at home relaxing, ME might show up on-list a couple of times or so. Just a thought. After reading about the MMM, BAB, PAB, HOB (is that one right?), NHIB, BeemerBunch, and all the other bunches whose acronyms I've temporarily forgotten or have already goofed on, I'm feeling pretty lonely way up here in Wisconsin. By any chance, are there any Wisconsinites out there??? Or am I the Only One? happily enjoying the snow, mary h. lostwomyn@juno.com ____________________________________________________________ no one is free when others are oppressed ____________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:19:40 EST From: M Something Subject: Storytellers Clip & Tampa Concert Memory Just thought I'd let you all know that VH1 played a clip from Storytellers this morning. It was MLE singing CTMW. It was a bright spot in my otherwise lousy morning. Also, I remembered something from MLE's Tampa concert that I thought I would share. When MLE played the first few notes to Shriner's Park, some people in the audience started screaming. MLE looked surprised and said something like, "How do you know which song I'm gonna play. I have ten songs that start that way." LOL! Of course, I thought of this list immediately. :) Michelle, who thinks that 53 degrees is way too cold for Florida. Brrrrrr! ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 10 Nov 1996 to 11 Nov 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Tue Nov 12 00:00:45 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:00:04 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 11 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:05:49 GMT From: Elaine Naiman Subject: answers Kathy at aol asked: >> I read in one of MLE's interviews that she thought it would be the >> "bisexuals in the world that would make the change" for gays and >> lesbians. What did she mean by that? I think the only person who could answer that question accurately would be Melissa. >> Also, why exactly are same sex marriages illegal? What is the definition of marriage in the US? If it's "between a man and a woman", there's your answer. Loretta wrote: >> When we see her in something like that, we know that she is one >> rock star who will never miss a concert because she is falling down >> drunk or stoned out of her mind, and that we'll never read in the >> paper about her trashing a hotel room or running out on a debt. In >> short, she is respectable as well as How do we know all this? Lots of people have said they'd never get involved with drugs, alcohol, whatever and do. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:08:47 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: ME on-line what a wonderful thought about MLE being on line! Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:21:00 -400 From: ANDY SMITH Subject: Re: NMEC - Judds, Country Music, and Rosie I agree with Roger. I also like all kinds of music. I like alternitive, rock, ( a little ) rap, classical, soft rock, oldies rock, well rock from any age: 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, & 90's. I also agree with Roger about Reba. I feel she is the best in country music. Plus most of the male singers are not that good, in my opinion. She is the only one that can really put the emotion in her music. If I were to pick my favorit it would be alternitive, but oldies have a special place in my heart. ====================================================================== ********************************************************************** ====================================================================== Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:46:42 -0400 From: Kim Christie Subject: Hello Georgia listers..... Hi all. Delurking for a moment to ask a silly question: It is *TWO* days until the Atlanta concert, I have spent the past 2 days catching up with e-mail to see if there will be any pre-concert gatherings, and WHERE ARE THE REST OF YOU ATLANTANS?!?!?!?!? Elizabeths (Elkins and Baldwin)? And Laura (whom I've yet to meet)? There are 6 of us coming to the concert together, so let me know if we're planning a get-together. P.S.: Beth and Shirl: You can add me to the list of proud Honda owners. I'm working on my third one now (1 Accord and 2 Preludes), and may soon have a new one. Take care! K.C. ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:21:25 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: Janis movies Hi Everyone, I'm about to leave work. I was just wondering, what do the ME Listers thiank about the two janis movies in development. One should star ME, and she will sing JJ's songs herself. I've never heard ME do JJ, but I know that ME has practiced it already. Has anyone heard that? How is she? I've always thought that Janis could not be imitated, but I don't know what to think now. I'm a huge fan of both talented ladies, and I want to give them both credit. Oh well, I'm curious anyhow. ME will have to fake do drugs, has she ever admitted to drug use before? I mean ME. I've always wondered that. I notice one of her songs makes reference to being wired, although that could mean a lot of things. Okay, that's enough for me. Just wanted to start some interesting conversation. Goodnight folks, Carol ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:24:45 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: Memphis, Pub Crawls, and Pencil Tests Susie from St. Louis wrote: >>I'm curious about who all's goin' to Memphis (that's "St. Louis speak")? >> We're going to be leaving Friday, 11/22, and staying 'til Sunday. If >>anyone's planning on pre-show activities, please let me know. Well Susie, I thought I was done with the Melissa concerts for this tour.... BUT...I know some non-listers who are going, AND that concert is on a Saturday, AND I'm thinking that this is the last we're gonna see of Melissa for awhile (tour-wise)...so I'm actually considering taking the Honda out for a rather long driving experience. I'll let you know ! And BTW, I never got a chance to respond to your other email - I didn't forget - been sick for awhile!!!! However, that attachment didn't work. ----------------------------- Randy wrote regarding the Philly Pub Crawl: >>Is 30 seconds a new record, Beth? all I'm gonna say is .... and I hope you're having a good time in Chapel Hill! ----------------------------- Shirl wrote: >>I'm exhausted from running from Beth all evening maybe you should've asked to borrow Randy's smokin' sneakers...OR just quit running... ----------------------------- SueL wrote:<103131.341@COMPUSERVE.COM> >>For those unfamiliar, Bette Midler had a 'pencil test' for ladies to use to >>determine whether or not they require a bra. It goes as follows: >>1. Lift Breast *laughing* well, that just blew it for me... And on that regularly expected, much anticipated, ornery note (nah, blame it on the Philly pub crawl)- I'm outta here. Beth (who's temporarily disengaged Nittany Lion sig. is having a wash and set at the moment) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:33:25 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Music for the Masses I just received a MFTM catalog in the mail, with lots of ME stuff as usual. Theresa's Tattoo is also listed at $19.95. I thought MFTM had stopped doing the mass mailing stuff? Anyone know what's going on? Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:33:44 -0600 From: MJ Helveston Subject: UNO Hey guys, (maybe there are still a few of you around that recognize me)... havent' exactly been "keeping up" with the list for some months now, but wanted to add my 2 cents worth of comments after seeing the New Orleans show.. was suprized at the turn out, definetly not as many people this time.. usually, (for whatever bizzar reason) the New Orleans shows are better than other stops on the tour, this year was no different there. won't bore you with a play by play, YIA was extremely excellent, as well as the song (can't remember now) where she "played" her guitar laying on the stage over it... if you haven't been to a concert this year, it was definetly worth going to. Although i'm sure everyone on this list goes religiously every year.. better get back to work... (hi guys... waving to the BAB.. hope everyone is doing well) later on.. MJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:01:35 -0700 From: "sharon r. hill" Subject: Re: MLE in New Orleans Pam's reiteration of MLE in New Orleans was wonderful - she didn't miss a thing. It was my first MLE concert and I was in all my glory. Not only was MLE great, but the crowd was equally fantastic. Everyone was there for one purpose - to listen to MLE and get into every song she sang. I am not one to be shy and I talk to most, but it seemed that everyone was doing the same thing - enjoying and discussing, singing, dancing, etc. It was an experience I will not soon forget. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:27:30 -0500 From: Paula Redmond Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 9 Nov 1996 to 10 Nov 1996 I don't know if this will work. It's the first time posting a message on this list. Was wondering if anyone is going to the San Diego concert either alone or with someone. Please e-mail me privately PRSQUARE@AOL.COM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:47:41 -400 From: ANDY SMITH Subject: everything Hi everyone! I just wanted to say hi. Also to see if I can do this right...ha..ha. I've read some very interesting things tonight. I wish ME would come back to Vermont. I missed her concert. I realy wanted to see it. So what's going on out? I feel like talking. I love MEs music. I have her CD "Yes I Am". I think it's great. I listen to it all the time. I just had to say that. ====================================================================== |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ====================================================================== Talk to you later Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:35:32 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Stereo while driving A few MEListers have written their opinion about driving with music. - earphones - stereo cranked up - rules and safety Well, I'm a biker. I ride with helmet noise. - Ontario has a helmet law; it's not an option. - At highway speeds, the wind past my helmet is louder than traffic noise & engine noise & everything else. - It's deafening. It's so loud that hearing impairment begins on the first ride. So, I always wear foam earplugs for protection; it's not an option. They cut out everything: traffic noise & engine noise & everything else. I compensate by being extra alert to visual cues. So far, so good! Uhh... when I'm driving a car, and Melissa comes on the radio, I get pretty distracted. I can't sit there and just listen to Melissa, I gotta rock :) Usually I turn her off :( -- Dan in Toronto danc@terraport.net http://www.canscape.com/dancohen -- Dan danc@terraport.net http://www.canscape.com/dancohen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:07:38 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: AUK I'm pretty new here, so please excuse any clumsiness I might manifest. Does anyone know if Melissa was with anyone (ie had a lover) when she and Julie met? If so, might this mean Julie is the one in the taxi in AUK? -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:07:55 -0500 From: Diane Boccadoro Subject: NMEC Deb wrote: >"Just tell me if you like it or not..." (whew, those >were the days... what a great song...) Amen!!! And she also wrote, re: same-sex marriages: > And there's always those who like to quote scripture I recently heard the following comment, I believe it was on the Turning Point special about same-sex marriages. Someone said that people against same-sex marriages are always quoting the bible and saying how God (god) was against homosexuality, but they often choose to overlook the passages that put women in the category of "second-class citizen," for lack of a better term. I mean, tell me "thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife" isn't sexist and condescending! >even though we have both freedom of religion (including >the right to have none) and a theoretical separation of >church and state in the U.S. *Theoretical* is right. And Laura responded to my self-deprecating remark about age and marriage: >With the right motivation I guarantee you'd find that wild >and crazy girl that once dominated your life. How do you >describe yourself at a Melissa concert? I bet 30 and >married are not the adjetives that come to mind, hmmm? You're right. I just need the motivation. Although if I revert to that "wild and crazy" girl I used to be, I refuse to be held responsible for my actions. It was pretty outta hand. My friends used tell me about some of the stuff I did and I wouldn't believe them ... until they showed me photos! (Don't ever let someone take a picture of you while you're sleeping on the floor with a bottle of Tequila in your hand and a piece of Italian bread sticking out of one ear. Ahhh, memories. Spring Break, 1986, Daytona. Those were the days.) Maybe I can just find a happy medium. >Anyway, just had to stick my .02 in, in defense of all the >"30 and Marrieds" out there. Never meant to implicate anyone but myself. >I taped Storytellers. If you're really in a bind, let me know. Thanks, from one party girl to another. Diane B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:03:47 -0500 From: Anne Haines Subject: Storytellers Well, seeing as how I don't get VH-1 anymore (thanks again, TCI *grr*), my sister was going to tape Storytellers for me. But she didn't... so... was somebody setting up a tree for this? Or would someone be interested in dubbing me a copy? I could trade an audio boot (I have a limited collection, but do have a couple of things) or a blank... Sounds like it was a very cool show! :) -Anne in Indiana who really wasn't ready to see snow just yet... "Gonna sting you with a kiss from my lips/ Gonna sting you with a piece of my mind/ Gonna sting you with a taste of my skin/ Then you're mine, then you're mine" --Lucy Kaplansky, "Scorpion" http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~ahaines ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:24:48 -0600 From: Patty Kolakowski Subject: Melissa Concerts Hi Everyone I just had the best Melissa week. Thursday night I saw her in Pensacola and then again in New Orleans Saturday night. When I got back from New Orleans today (Monday) I watched my tape of Storytellers (twice). My seats from MEIN in P'cola were great. We sat in the first row of the risers right next to the stage. Unfortunally I didn't have MEIN tickets for the N.O. show and we had to sit in the rafters. I thought the P'cola show was the best until I saw her in N.O. She said more than once how much she liked N.O. and was really turned on by the crowd. In P'cola she wore those shiny, crinkly black pants. In N.O. she wore black stretch pants. She looked so good in those I could hardly take my eyes off her. I thought Storytellers was terrific. I can't fuss too much about VH1 because they have Melissa on so much, but they sure do have a lot of commercials. Bee Good pk ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 11 Nov 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Wed Nov 13 00:00:57 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:00:17 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 11 Nov 1996 to 12 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 00:23:05 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: a w/e's worth of catching up (SMEC) Yvonne Hendricks asked: >Now a totaly different question. I hear y'all talking 'bout seats. >In Holland there are tickets for sale where you can sitt and tickets >where you can stand.. - snip - >Do y'all have seats or do you have something like these arena >tickets too? it all depends on the venue and the artist performing. i think that ever since the 1979 (?) WHO tragedy in cincinnati (if i recall, 11 dead in a crush/stampede due to the show's festival [general admission] seating), promoters have been more careful about how they handle the seating. please correct me if i'm wrong, but i think that u.s. promoters have to indicate in concert ads if an event is general admission or not. most of the concerts i attend of any size (2,000+) will have only reserved seats. most arena shows (including MLE's upcoming s.f. and sacramento shows) are completely reserved. however, i've been to stadium concerts in which the field is general admission and the stands are reserved. ============================== Susan said: >I'm looking forward to meeting & hanging out with other listers. >I've gotten mail from a few people from Spokane, Seattle/Tacoma & >Portland. and don't forget the bay area! ;-) ============================== Deb said: >And what was up with all that make-up?! LOL! i had a non-list member friend tape the show for me, and the first thing she said after telling me that she had taped it successfully was, "melissa was wearing makeup. does she always wear *SO* much makeup?" i haven't seen it yet, so i'll reserve judgment at this time. and to answer edgy's question about left coast times - yes, "storytellers" was broadcast at 7 pm PST in the bay area (for those cable systems that actually have VH1 on at 7 pm). ============================== MJ Helveston POSTED: >Hey guys, (maybe there are still a few of you around that recognize >me)... i do! long time no post! how's the doberpuppy (chey, right?)? probably not much of a puppy anymore, huh? >(hi guys... waving to the BAB.. hope everyone is doing well) so when are you coming back to visit? nothing like talking about "sheep boots" while downing coffee (with whipped cream! ) in the middle of a freak snow flurry, huh? :-) *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:43:36 -0500 From: Sooz911@AOL.COM Subject: not slighting the bay area I said: >I'm looking forward to meeting & hanging out with other listers. I've gotten mail >>from a few people from Spokane, Seattle/Tacoma & Portland. Then Rhonnda reminded me: >>and don't forget the bay area! ;-) How could I forget an official BABer! So sorry! I should also mention I've heard from some folks from Canada & probably others I am forgetting. Oh yeah...possibly Tim from Germany will be joining us with his crowd as they come through. I'm running on very little sleep these last few days so if I've forgotten anyone else I apologize. Suffice it to say I can't wait to meet you all no matter where you are from! Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 07:48:53 -0500 From: Michele Marie Bench Subject: Chapel Hill pics I saw quite a few people at the Chapel Hill concert last night - I'd love to do a trade for a picture (just one!). I've got a couple of CD's I could copy. Please drop me a line if you could... Also, what does the L stand for in MLE? Has anyone thought about a middle name for baby Austin? "But if you want me, you can call me. In the night you know where I'll be." - Melissa Etheridge - "No Souvenirs" Michele ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:07:05 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: Re: Leavenworth Hi everybody, My english may not be perfect but I never thought someone could understand it wrong in a way AJ did. AJ said: >Sorry folks, but I really did not intend to come off as a know-it-all. >I just thought some folks might be interested in the smaller details, Marcel. Yes, I was interested because this is very close to her personal live...... >Am I mistaken in my perception that your response was laced with large >doses of sarcasm, or were you being sincere in your questions? I was surprised that she sings about a park in Leavenworth and you tell me for the first time it is not true what she sings. It was a shock! > in some interview, stated the song "Shriner's Park" was definitely set in >Leavenworth.... It's the MOST RESPECTED music-magazine in the Netherlands! Nobody here doubts what OOR (the magazine) writes is made up. If they write that Mel said it was in Leavenworth then I KNOW that it is in Leavenworth. It can have changed names in the last years but it's a special park in Leavenworth. >My cousins have always been pretty much of the >attitude that lesbians and gays should either be shot, or at least locked >up in an asylum, to protect such good, decent citizens as themselves. > So even broaching the topic of ME, nay, even talking to them, is out of the >question. I really don't say anything to this sort of comments. Especially because you don't react to what your cousins think. It shows no tolerance and is very dangerous in a world where we live in today. In holland the extreme right fascists are winning in the scores and it makes me scared. I think you should dissociate yourself from these comments of your cousins in the mail. Decent is not the right word for them...... Joyce replied to the answer of AJ about Leavenworth: >Really, it's not a big thing, and I hope your feelings aren't hurt. I >actually thought Marcel sounded excited and was eager for you to share more >of what you knew. I know you certainly piqued *my* curiosity! And there is >room in this world for more than one opinion. Thanks Joyce, I WAS excited and curious but the feeling has gone now sadly. Bye , Marcel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:26:13 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: AUK I don't know if she was with anyone for sure (I think I read somewhere she was). Anyway, that is a definite possibility in my opinion. Let me know if you find out, huh?! Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:28:41 -0600 From: Tracey Thacker Subject: Baby Names & Globe Trotting Hi all. . . Coming out of my theater fog to make a couple of (hopefully) cogent comments. (Oh, thanks to all of you who wrote with best theater wishes, opening weekend was a sold-out smash success!) Anyhoo, Aaron "Fumbling toward Ecstasy" Morrison asked: >Back on the baby subject -- who else here thinks "Austin" is an aweful >choice for a first name? Well, it could be worse. Friends just named their new son "Floyd Norman". Now, its not the worst name in the world, but in this day and age of Alexs, Jonathans and Brians, I can see this poor boy being picked on quite heavily. What's worse is that its not a family name or anything, they just liked it. Scary. Elaine "Globetrotter" Naiman weighed in on the Austin/city connection thing thusly: >Good thing their favourite city isn't Placentia, Newfoundland. Or Newborn, Georgia. Can you imagine walking around being called Newborn at the age of 50? This leads me to think of that fact that Garth Brooks seems to have a penchant for putting the placename of his children's conceptions into their names, hence his first daughter was Taylor Maine Brooks. And, if recollection serves, David Bowie's son, formerly known as Zowie (now called Joe or something along those "normal" lines) was given the middle name Paris for similar reasons. So, this gives us something to be joyous about. If Julie and Melissa were following music tradition, this poor child might be named Los Angeles Cypheridge. Along those same travelling thoughts, Aaron also queried: >Colleen wrote: >>I have a question for Elaine (of the notorious Jan & Elaine). Would you stop >> traveling so can ask? > >That's a bad habit of hers -- first Jan, then me, then Carol, then Laur -- >who's she gonna visit next?! And the answer is ME! That is, of course, if my extremely full schedule allows us to do that Lister Meet-N-Greet when she has a stopover in the Pittsburgh airport next week, right Elaine? I feel so lucky to be a part of the Globe Trotter's Tour De North America, I don't know what to say! Ah well, the theater calls! Back into the wings, call me the Phantom of Mlether. . .:-) Tracey Tracey Thacker <>==<>==<>thack22@usaor.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The only people who would suggest that a person's character is no longer important are those who are sorely lacking in character. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:35:48 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Re: Veterans Day Post Good Morning Melisters! I just wanted to take a moment to say "Thank You" to all of you who wrote in response to my post concerning Veterans Day and the rememberance of it. I would normally reply to each of you individually but I will be running behind as I was off for two days and as usual am running behind again. I will try but if I don't succeed, know that I am grateful for your responses and for all of you who have served and still do. And I am grateful for you to take a moment from your day to post and send your comments. You are all truly remarkable people on this list and I am ever so glad to have been able to speak with each of you and listen to all others. Sincerely, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:31:59 -0500 From: Tina Chambers Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 11 Nov 1996 Well, I don't *regret* going, that's the best I can say (and that has mainly to do with the fact that I won tickets ). I'll skip the usual "set list and clothing" report, I think by the time the tour is over we'll have been through every possible variation, anyway. Instead, I'd like to ask, in my confusion, a few questions. ME is an artist thriving on audience response, right?? So why, oh why, does she hold off on the "tested and true leap-to-your-feet-and-lose-it" songs until the concert is halfway over? Bad enough that she chose to book vanues she had no prayer of filling, even those sections of the Dean Dome that weren't blocked off were only two thirds filled. I've never seen atmosphere fizzle so fast, a lot of people who obviously showed up psyched and hell-bent on having a great time sat back down (and stayed down) after the second or third song. Yeah, things *did* pick up predictably during the small stage set and thereafter, but even then, well, I don't know, it was lacking something?? Maybe the echo from all those empty rows?? And the worst part was I had the impression as if this came to no surprise to ME or the band, it seemed as if, for the first part of the show, they were just checking off songs, not really expecting any meaningful crowd reaction. They didn't even play SF after NTG, as I expected them to, maybe they didn't want to wake up anyone??? Second half was decent enough, but *no match* for those out-of-this-world concert experiences I had in Germany in February, wide open spaces don't seem to work well for either me or ME, give me cramped and crowded anytime :-) My apologies to the RealFans (TM) Tina Chambers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:46:10 -0500 From: Kimberly R Gassner-Harkness Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 11 Nov 1996 > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 23:05:49 GMT > From: Elaine Naiman > Subject: answers > > Kathy at aol asked: > > >> I read in one of MLE's interviews that she thought it would be the > >> "bisexuals in the world that would make the change" for gays and > >> lesbians. What did she mean by that? > > I think the only person who could answer that question accurately > would be Melissa. Elaine, Bisexuals are the link between hetero and homo sexuals... Kim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:37:59 -0300 From: Jennifer Sutton Subject: Hey out there!! Hi y'all. Call me dumb or what but can somebody tell me what the MEIN is? I'am kind of a new user on this ME info thing and want all the Mellisa info I can get!!! Also, if anybody wants to drop me a private e-mail PLEASE do. I just got my account and want to put it to good use!! I check mail everyday so nobody will go unanswered. So call this a desperate cry for e-mail!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:54:00 +0100 From: Yvonne Hendricks Subject: Storytellers, watching you Hi y'all, Could anybody tell this Dutch girl what the explanation is of WY??? Thanks Yvonne Yvonne Hendricks TNO-TPD-TU Instrumentatie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:48:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: ME+ba ??? ; My question Hello everyone, on Monday 11Nov Deb wrote: >Tim Dunker wrote quite a while ago: >>watch out for the B side to Bryan Adam`s next single !!!!!!! >>YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS ME+ba - "It's only love" (recorded at Wembley, this >>summer) Let me tell you it was a GREAT duet. >>I heard that it will be published in the US and probably in Europe, too. >Has anyone heard any more about this? I haven`t heared anything new either. But I also didn`t hear anything, that a new BA-single is out since I have posted my mail. Or am I wrong on this ? I got the information from someone who should know, but he couldn`t tell me when it was going to be published. - So we have to be patient. ______________________________________________________________________________ Now I have a question: Maybe you remember my post about my birthday in July. I had the great luck to be told that ME wanted to talk to me and give me a little present. I was brought backstage, ME came and we talked. During this I told Melissa that "I want to come over" to the US during her tour to see some of her shows in the States. Melissa answered that the shows in the US will be/feel strange for me, because they are seated. - She knows that I need some space to jump, move, dance ... during her shows. ;) - So, I have never seen a ME-concert that was seated and now that I have made my plans and tickets for 8 shows in Dec. I would like to know: HOW LONG ???? HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO SIT ????? WHEN CAN I JUMP UP AND GET TO THE EDGE OF THE STAGE ???? Please let me know your experiences from this Tour. Greetings from the river Rhine and the old castles... Tim Dunker (I will come over - It`s a need I can`t explain) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:06:44 -0500 From: Deb Subject: VH-1 On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Anne Haines wrote: > Well, seeing as how I don't get VH-1 anymore (thanks again, TCI *grr*) Now's the time to demand VH-1... TCI is running scared because of DSS... tell 'em you want VH-1 or you'll switch to satellite service, that'll get their attenion! It's amazing what a little competition will do... -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:25:23 -0400 From: Kim Christie Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 10 Nov 1996 to 11 Nov 1996 - Special issue On Sun, 10 Nov, roger zender asked: > Are there any Judds fans out there (enter faint sound of wind, crickets > (and some other stuff....) > Just a little side note for the Country fans. (I hope I don't get labeled > as a Country fan (not that that is bad), I just like a few select artists) Oh yes, count me in! Love the Judds and lots of other country singers as well, and I ain't ashamed to admit it! ****************** And from Deb : > Now, here's where I thought she was going to admit that the songs on YLS > are sub-standard, but instead... Sub-standard? Depends on your on personal tastes, I guess. And quoted ME further: >sometimes is really up and sometimes is just okay," she says. "Besides, >this album has some of the best songs I've ever written. To which Deb responded: > Eek! Such as...? Such as "Nowhere to Go", "Shriner's Park", "This War Is Over", just to mention a couple of my favorite and most personally meaningful. I felt like ME was trying to write a little more from her experience/true self, but this album was more meaningful to me than any other. Like I said, depends on your personal taste. And continued with: > What she needs it better songs, not a better band, though the latter can > help distract from the poor material and the recycled performances. > > I think the break will do all of us some good. Eek! Are you kidding me?!?!? I hope I'm not the only fan who would take all the ME I can get (recycled or not, as I continue to watch all of her performances that I managed to catch on the trusty VCR). I hope that you only meant that after the break ME will come back refreshed and renewed and that we will have missed her so bad that almost anything she does will seem like "up to standard" material. Oh well, back to lurking, which is ususally all I have time to do. No offense meant, Deb. I hope none taken. And last but not least: > I didn't care at all for the photography; it would seem to me that a simple > affair like that deserves simple direction. And what was up with all that > make-up?! But overall, it's a highlight of my collection, her performance > was great. Ditto. Absolutely one of my favorites. ******************** And a little note from Diane B.: > by 10:15. [I know, pretty sad for a Saturday night. But I'm > married and 30, which pretty much means I'm lame.............." Hey! Wait a minute! I resemble..... I mean, I resent that remark! I also happen to fall into the "Over 30 and married (S.O.)" group, but that doesn't stop me from *thinking* I can still do all the things I used to... I'm just a little slower at it these days! Well, take care all, and keep those digests coming! Y'all are quite an interesting/informative/entertaining bunch! And best of all, I get to see Melissa TOMORROW NIGHT!!!!! K.C. ******************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:51:23 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: I Do Country Too! :) Hey There Country Music Fans! This bear does country too! I even own my very own black hat! When the country gets to cookin' and this bear gets ta singing and a dancin' it is a happy time in the cave indeed !!! :) Thought I would share some of my female favs are: Patty Loveless, Pam Tillis, Martina Mcbride, MCC (of course), Allison Krauss, Shelby Lynne wooo! hooo! I really like Cheryl Wheeler though she is more folk I think and then there is always "Reba" the queen of country! On the male gender: Garth Brooks, Brooks & Dunn, John Barry, Delbert McClinton etc. etc. etc. So I just thought I would add my .02 to the subject at paw! I am just a bear of many musical interests! George Winston sounds good when I am getting ready to hibernate! :) Sincerely, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:15:46 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 11 Nov 1996 Kim wrote: ***Bisexuals are the link between hetero and homo sexuals... huh????????? Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:26:28 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: An Unusual Image A friend of mine gave me a hard copy of the Nov. 1, 1996 St. Petersburg Times, the one with the article on MLE, "EVERYWHERE TO GO" by ERIC DEGGANS, Times Pop Music Critic. Beyond the observations that Deb made about MLE's comments on the lukewarm success of YLS, what also caught my attention was the cover photo of MLE. When I first looked at it, I did a major doubletake. MLE looked a whole lot like Madonna from her Like A Virgin days or Gloria Estefan these days. She was dressed in this very sleek, sexy black dress with thin shoulder straps (reminded me of a DKNY number); her hair was rather big and blonde (g); she had these fashion-forward sunglasses perched on the tip of her nose which she was peering over with a this sly, mischievous smirk on her very red lips. She was leaning against a doorway and the shot was taken from her waist up. Ooo la la. Very nice...... (I thought that maybe Rupaul had dressed her or something.) I just wonder where they got this particular photo or whether she posed specifically for the St. Petersburg Times. Gwen (wishing Jud, one of our favorite kiwis, good luck!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:00:33 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: An Unusual Image Gwen Shinko wrote: > (g); she had these fashion-forward sunglasses perched on the tip of her > nose which she was peering over with a this sly, mischievous smirk on her > very red lips. She was leaning against a doorway and the shot was taken > from her waist up. Ooo la la. Very nice...... (I thought that maybe Yes, very nice, but I think it is an OLD photo. Someone correct me. -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:34:37 -0800 From: edgy Subject: LA tix go on sale Tix for the LA show at the Sports Arena on December 22 go on sale to the general public this Sunday, November 17. KSCA 101.9 is advertising this show for their Front Row Friday contest. Allison, who will crawl back into bed sniffling now edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:47:04 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Resend: Chapel Hill concert, but I'm punchy, so please excuse.... This doesn't seem to have made it the first time, so I am resending. My apologies... Subject:Chapel Hill concert, but I'm punchy, so please excuse... Well, what can I say? I haven't slept in over 36 hours! I left the Philly area yesterday morning at 3:30 am, got into Chapel Hill (do you realize that's 500 freaking miles?) about 2 pm, checked into my motel, took a shower, met Rose and Susan at the local Olive Garden. Went to the concert venue. Met Sue from Colorado, who happened to be in the area, working, for the last month... MEIN provided Rose and I with FLOOR, CENTER stage, 2ND row, seats_1_ and _2_. MEIN provided Sue and Susan 10th row tickets, floor, which ain't bad either! Are ya'll Jealous, or what? MEIN did us proud. We were right behind the couple from the local area that WON tickets on the radio. Anyhoo, I won't post details about the concert itself, until later, when I'm coherent, as I was busy trying to get pictures, until a security guard spotted me and told me to put the 'pro' camera away. Which I did, until everyone rushed the stage during/after the small back stage thing. Then I got a few more during the second encore, TWIO. He had moved a little further away. I only got to shoot, maybe, 15 frames. We will see what comes of it. BUT, Rose used my disposable camera...those are probably better! After the concert, 3 of us went to a local club, had some refreshments, and parted ways, with a few hugs and thank you's. Susan, thanks again for the directions, and your trouble! Unbeknownst to me, construction behind my motel was a 24 hour thing...have you EVER heard concrete from an old highway being broken into 1 ton slabs, loaded into dumpsters by LARGE backhoes, at _3_ in the FREAKING morning? under intense halogen lights? no one on this Good Earth can sleep under those conditions. So I packed up and started driving back home. Finally arrived here 11 hours later. Gawd, I'm punchy! -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:46:42 -0500 From: Tiger Lily Subject: Hi everyone! Hi everyone! I'm kind of new here and I just wanted to say that I think this is really great. I'd like to be a regular poster. I don't really want to be a lurker :) I'm from Indiana, any other fellow hoosiers out there? I'm a huge fan of ME, in fact she's my idol as well as role model. Incase you're wondering, well actually you're probably not, but I'll tell ya anyway. Yes, I'm a babydyke (17) I'm a musician, so of course I have to love ME. I got my first guitar when I was 7. I really can't say it enough, I love ME. I think it's great that her and Julie are having a baby. Anyway I just wanted to tell you all that you've gained another ME lover. Kirsten ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:48:11 -0500 From: Laura Politano Subject: Wild and Crazy With Tequila Hi All, Diane wrote: You're right. I just need the motivation. Although if I revert to that "wild and crazy" girl I used to be, I refuse to be held responsible for my actions. It was pretty outta hand. My friends used tell me about some of the stuff I did and I wouldn't believe them ... until they showed me photos! (Don't ever let someone take a picture of you while you're sleeping on the floor with a bottle of Tequila in your hand and a piece of Italian bread sticking out of one ear. Ahhh, memories. Spring Break, 1986, Daytona. Those were the days.) Maybe I can just find a happy medium. Funny Diane, I have a hauntingly similiar picture. Except I'm barely dressed, awake, with a rose in my mouth, lying on the floor thinking I'm just the cats meow. Scary! It was May of '87, just out of spring semester and a bunch of us went to Acapulco where the tequila runs 24 hours a day and for free in most of the clubs. Ahhh, those were the days, you're not kidding, so ~much~ fun, I went back 2 years later. Been a tequila hound ever since. : Anyway, keep partying. I know you have it in you. : ) Laura- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:49:05 -0500 From: Cynthia Donohue Subject: Re: An Unusual Image Gwen Shinko wrote: >A friend of mine gave me a hard copy of the Nov. 1, 1996 St. Petersburg >Times, the one with the article on MLE, "EVERYWHERE TO GO" by ERIC >DEGGANS, Times Pop Music Critic. >Rupaul had dressed her or something.) I just wonder where they got this >particular photo or whether she posed specifically for the St. Petersburg >Times. No, this photo is just a publicity photo. You can find the same photo on MEIN s web site. The other photo, that ran with this article, is from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert. Cynthia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:41:56 -0600 From: Theresa Ann Stringham Subject: Going to Austin! Hey everyone, My partner and I are headed to Austin this Friday to see ME in concert!!! Pretty excited! We'll be going Friday and staying until Sunday. I was wondering if some of you Austinites could tell me some of the hot spots to hang out! Neither one of us get up to Austin too often.:( You can e-mail me privately! We're also going to the concert in Corpus Christi next Tuesday! Corpus is pretty to close so we're driving back that night. Thanks for any information! Theresa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:50:26 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Chapel Hill concert, but I'm punchy, so please excuse.... Well, what can I say? I haven't slept in over 36 hours! I left the Philly area yesterday morning at 3:30 am, got into Chapel Hill (do you realize that's 500 freaking miles?) about 2 pm, checked into my motel, took a shower, met Rose and Susan at the local Olive Garden. Went to the concert venue. Met Sue from Colorado, who happened to be in the area, working, for the last month... MEIN provided Rose and I with FLOOR, CENTER stage, 2ND row, seats_1_ and _2_. MEIN provided Sue and Susan 10th row tickets, floor, which ain't bad either! Are ya'll Jealous, or what? MEIN did us proud. We were right behind the couple from the local area that WON tickets on the radio. Anyhoo, I won't post details about the concert itself, until later, when I'm coherent, as I was busy trying to get pictures, until a security guard spotted me and told me to put the 'pro' camera away. Which I did, until everyone rushed the stage during/after the small back stage thing. Then I got a few more during the second encore, TWIO. He had moved a little further away. I only got to shoot, maybe, 15 frames. We will see what comes of it. BUT, Rose used my disposable camera...those are probably better! After the concert, 3 of us went to a local club, had some refreshments, and parted ways, with a few hugs and thank you's. Susan, thanks again for the directions, and your trouble! Unbeknownst to me, construction behind my motel was a 24 hour thing...have you EVER heard concrete from an old highway being broken into 1 ton slabs, loaded into dumpsters by LARGE backhoes, at _3_ in the FREAKING morning? under intense halogen lights? no one on this Good Earth can sleep under those conditions. So I packed up and started driving back home. Finally arrived here 11 hours later. Gawd, I'm punchy! -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:53:50 -0600 From: Pam Crago Subject: MLE on the Tonight Show Hi MEIN just put out Melissa is going to be on The Tonight Show 19 December. Mark your calenders.... Pam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:25:10 -0500 From: Julie Gauvin Subject: I need a copy of Storyteller Hi everyone! Here in Canada we don't have VH-1... unfortunatly! I was wondering if someone would help me to have a copy of Storyteller??? I would pay for the tape and the postage. I also have a lot of interesting stuff to trade.... So let me know if you can help me! E-mail me: aac006@agora.ulaval.ca Julie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:16:04 -0500 From: "Christina M. Kougher" Subject: NMEC: Wedding/Comm. Ceremony Clipart Needed Hello! Does anyone out there have any wedding-related clipart files they would be willing to attach to an email?? A friend has requested that I help her design for her ceremony, and although she is a lesbian, she likes 'traditional' wedding imagery, i.e. Bells, Rings, etc. We are especially hoping to find wedding bells. If anyone out there can help, please email me!! Thank You! Kara --<--<{@ p.s. I would be willing to snail mail live Melissa photos (Detroit show) in return for the perfect clipart! Consider it a contest/challenge! ;) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:14:23 -0600 From: tcholewa Subject: Questions..... Greetings Everyone! I have a couple of questions to ask all of you, and am hoping someone will know some answers.. 1. I was watching storytellers and was reminded of an interview I had read a while back, where Melissa said that Julie had gotten upset when she revealed the meaning to the songs on YES I AM..Well, my question is What are the meanings to the songs,,,,any of them...? 2. where do Melissa and Julie reside now? 3. Where can I find a woman who is a cross between Helen Hunt and Melissa? I am so tired of looking... PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:10:20 GMT From: Beth Durff Subject: Melissa on the Tonight Show Just received this from MEINMAIL: Melissa will perform on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno - December 19th ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 11 Nov 1996 to 12 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Wed Nov 13 17:57:37 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:56:56 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 12 Nov 1996 to 13 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:02:08 GMT From: Beth Durff Subject: Still more Honda's Kim wrote: P.S.: Beth and Shirl: You can add me to the list of proud Honda owners. I'm working on my third one now (1 Accord and 2 Preludes), and may soon have a new one. Another HOB member ! Hmmm... Are we gonna have to start our own list or what? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:42:27 -0800 From: Cindy Hoeflak Subject: Melissa books? Hi there? Could anyone please tell me whether Melissa has published a biography or if there are any books about the lovely Melissa. I heard through a reliable source that the videotapes in the US are different to the ones in New Zealand, and can't be played in our VCRs. Does anyone know anymore about this? I'm flying to Orlando on 21 November and I'm intending to stock up on Melissa merchandise, as we're all deprived down here. Any tips on where to go? Have a lovely day! Cindy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:28:04 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Go Bucks!! On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Beth Durff wrote: > ________GO BLUE - PSU___________ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > We are..............Penn State!!! Booo, GO BUCKEYES!!!!!!!! "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:34:49 -0800 From: AJ Subject: Re: Thank you Howdy Fellow MElisters! Well, it seems I've made a major fox-paws (Faux pas, to y'all). My apologies, Marcel. As I said, this medium does make for occasional lack of understanding due to lack of non-verbal cues. It seems that I also failed to remember possible language barriers, as Joyce pointed out. I reacted somewhat more strongly to Marcel even, due to the private e-mails I mentioned receiving. Not your fault Marcel, 'twas mine. Thanks to all those who offered advice to this newbie regarding communication via list. I won't be so over-sensitive next time. And Marcel--I really wish that I could answer some of your questions. But I am several years removed from Leavenworth, and it seems not so knowledgeable about its environs any longer. And I really wish that I could ask someone back there, but the lines of communication have been severed, so to speak. Think I'll go back to lurking for a while until I get a better idea of how this all works. AJ (ajmlls@netcom.com) San Francisco, CA (surrouned by water, protected by dikes, and serviced by ferries:-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:09:41 -0800 From: AJ Subject: One More ? before returning to lurk mode Hi Gang! Just one more question before returning to lurking. I might have missed previous mention of this on the list, but please bear with me. I have learned that Newsweek often uses different covers to be used in different locales. Here in California, ME and Julie were on the cover of the Nov. 4 issue of Newsweek. Who saw ME and Julie on the cover; who saw a different cover? What area do you live in? OK! Well just ONE more question--To those of you who saw the ME & Julie cover. Is that an awful picture of Julie, OR WHAT? Looked to me like Kathy Bates from her portrayal of Annie Wilkes in the Steven King movie, "Misery". When you think of it in that context, doesn't make it the best family photo ever, does it, gang? AJ (ajmlls@netcom.com) San Francisco, CA (surrouned by water, protected by dikes, and serviced by ferries:-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:11:45 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: can you see the real ME? Loretta Myers said: >Elaine wrote ><< How do we know all this? Lots of people have said they'd never >get involved with drugs, alcohol, whatever and do. >> >Well, Elaine, I guess it's the same way I "knew" you were going to >question my statement that we knew Melissa would never do certain >things. Why do you have to challenge any positive statement that >anyone makes? Do we have to say that it is just our opinion on >every statement? i think elaine's statement is well taken. because MLE's music touches us on many levels, many of us believe that we *know* her intimately. we know how she'd react in certain situations or how she feels about certain issues. but do we really know? of all the musicians i've seen in concert, MLE's probably one of the most "real", i.e. her onstage persona is probably very close to her real life one. sure, we can extrapolate from her past actions to figure out how she'd react in a certain situation or read her interviews to know her feelings about specific issues. however, the fact still remains that she is a "performer" that very few of us know in real life . i'd agree that the odds of MLE suddenly becoming a drug and alcohol addict are slim to none. however, think about how many celebrities have done something publically (such as develop a drug habit or suddenly divorce their spouse) that you were surprised about. i'd guess that just about everyone can think of a few. as much as many of us feel close to MLE, we really just cannot assume anything about her. *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:27:59 -0500 From: "Whitfield,Eileen A" Subject: Playlist/From the Vault A gallant man is Mike Bunch, who judiciously decided not even the Australian Olympic Women+s Field Hockey team could pry certain relics from my hands once they came into my possession. And so it came to pass that I inherited the actual playlist from Storytellers and have returned from the Planet Lurk to share it with you verbatim: -Water Watching You No Souvenirs Testify Keep It Precious ----stop tape---- *Q&A ----stop tape---- Come to My Window I+m The Only One Yes I Am Nowhere to Go All the Way to Heaven- There+s been a lot of fajita fests under the bridge since my last post, so a tip of my hat to the List (including all the wonderful people I owe email to) and a howdy-do to all the new listers. Now.. at the risk of sounding pitiful, can anyone tell me when Storytellers will air again? or is it my fate to always miss it? Eileen (the mostly proud owner of a 'classic' 86 Jeep CJ-7, if anyone+s still keeping track) eileen.a.whitfield@kp.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:19:34 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: An Unusual Image Hey all, ***Gwen Shinko wrote: ***>Rupaul had dressed her or something.) I just wonder where they got this ***>particular photo or whether she posed specifically for the St. Petersburg ***>Times. I don't remember reading this whole message so I don't know for certain that the mention of RuPaul is meant as derogatory...but I must say that Melissa AND Ellen could take some fashion tips from Miss Ru. (Hell, most of the so-called supermodels should go to Ru for tips!) IMHO as always! Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:26:41 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: names and other things Hi....again! Elaine wrote: ***Funny, most gays I've met hate bisexuals. Personally I don't hate someone who says that they are bisexual...I do feel that the label bisexual is a cop-out. *** ***>> Do we have to say that it is just our opinion on every statement? *** ***Perhaps you should. You don't know what Melissa has done or will do ***in her life. No matter what she says. Circumstances change. I won't repost Elaine's entire statement...but I must say...Bravo! Well said, Elaine! Doug (once more I am able to say I have a PIP...his name is John...he's my ex...we're back together...long story...yaddayaddayadda...my life's a soap opera) PS - RENEE! (shaking my finger with a stern look on my face) I wrote you last week and haven't received a response. Hope everything is okay...it's probably your server AGAIN! Anyhow, write when you can and take care of yourself! Love ya! PSS - Hi Pooh! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:26:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: Hello, on 12 Nov Tina Chambers wrote: > They didn't even play SF after NTG, as I >expected them to, maybe they didn't want to wake up anyone??? I can`t imagine that this was the reason !!! >Second half was decent enough, but *no match* for those >out-of-this-world concert experiences I had in Germany in February, wide >open spaces don't seem to work well for either me or ME, give me cramped >and crowded anytime :-) Yes, cramped and crowded anytime !!! In 1994 I saw ME in the "Deutschland Halle" in Berlin and it was quite unusal that she played this big venue. So in the end there were only about 4500 people in there and it was really strange to see all these empty seats at the far end of each side. But it was May 29th and so ME had all the fun on the world with her on stage. Julie arrived a day earlier. ;) BYE Tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 08:47:31 CST From: Elizabeth Burns Subject: Sesame Street Michele Lamphier asked: >Will Melissa Etheridge be on Seasame Steet on the 21st? Does anyone have details? This date is confirmed here in Texas, i talked to someone who works at the local PBS station. She said that as far as she is aware, new shows (meaning it's not a repeat) air on the same day everywhere. Someone posted that New Hampshire will air it that day as well. So it should air on the 21st of November but if you want to confirm that, call you local PBS station (or whoever airs Sesame Street) and ask them. They should have the information or be able to get it. liz (Hey Ren - 28 days and counting...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:57:53 -0500 From: Kelley at AOL Subject: Memphis Hey listers...I asked once and you came through for me (thanks Cathi if you're out there) but I need *one* more MEIN ticket for a friend who really wants to make the Memphis show. Please email me privately if you can help and thanks in advance!!! Take care, Kelley "I am woman, I am invincible, I am tired." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:12:35 EST From: "Vanessa A. Brown" Subject: storytellers/ani defranco I know I'm a bit behind in my thinking (and posting)...I enjoyed the piece on Storytellers where she explained a few things about No Souvineers. The buffalo nickel necklace (which is *all* she would say) brought up some very fun imagery for me in the line "the way you make the buffalo roam"...her eyes and laughter were really great when she did get to that line. Also, for you New Englanders, according to my local lesbian newsletter, Ani Defranco is playing Northampton, MA, November 19th. I've never heard anything from her, but have seen mention of her here many times. She's a"must see", is that right John Miller? Take care! vb (a NHIB) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:40:28 -0500 From: Deb Subject: marriage, bisexuals, opinions On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Elaine Naiman wrote: > Kathy at aol asked: >> Also, why exactly are same sex marriages illegal? > What is the definition of marriage in the US? If it's "between a man > and a woman", there's your answer. There was no definition, just an assumption. The "Defense of Marriage Act" codified it, but shouldn't hold up under the scrutiny of the courts. > Funny, most gays I've met hate bisexuals. No wonder you're so cranky, hanging out with all of those ignorant people. :) I just don't understand people who whine about society disrespecting their orientation, then turn around and tell bisexuals their feelings are invalid. > Loretta wrote: > >> Do we have to say that it is just our opinion on every statement? > > Perhaps you should. As far as I'm concerned, everything on this list is opinion or conjecture until proven otherwise. :) -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:52:57 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Janis movies On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Carol Andredesz wrote: > she will sing JJ's songs herself. I've never heard ME do JJ, but I know > that ME has practiced it already. Has anyone heard that? How is she? She's done "Piece of My Heart," "Me & Bobby McGee," and "Mercedes Benz" in concert for years, and she's done them justice, IMO. Very faithful renditions. > ME will have to fake do > drugs, has she ever admitted to drug use before? I mean ME. You seem obsessed with this topic. :) In any case, her answers over the years have been ambiguous; my interpretation has been that she's experimented, but nothing more. Doesn't mean that my interpretation, or her intended answers, are factual. >I've always > wondered that. I notice one of her songs makes reference to being wired, > although that could mean a lot of things. I apply the term to myself after a triple macchiato (that's an espresso drink, for those of you who prefer your caffeine cold, or not at all ). -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:36:08 -0500 From: Deb Subject: opinions On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Kim Christie wrote: > And from Deb : > > Now, here's where I thought she was going to admit that the songs on YLS > > are sub-standard, but instead... > > Sub-standard? Depends on your on personal tastes, I guess. Of course. I tend to express my opinions rather strongly, but it was not my intention to speak for all. I assume that some of the million people who bought YLS enjoyed it. :) > And quoted ME further: > >sometimes is really up and sometimes is just okay," she says. "Besides, > >this album has some of the best songs I've ever written. > > To which Deb responded: > > Eek! Such as...? > > Such as "Nowhere to Go", "Shriner's Park", "This War Is Over" I like NTG, but I don't think it's even in my top 20 MLE songs. I can't even remember how SP goes, so obviously it didn't leave an impression. And I have yet to get past all of the guitar noodling (technical term ) in TWIO since the first time I listened to the CD. > > I think the break will do all of us some good. > > Eek! Are you kidding me?!?!? No. I really think MLE has to take more time to make the next CD, and that we'll all benefit if she does. > No offense meant, Deb. I hope none taken. Of course not. I shouldn't have been so strident, you were right to put my opinions into perspective. -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:01:03 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: The CA shows Hi Everyone, Me and my So have been considering going on the Calisfonia tour. We may be starving kids but we'd have just enough after payday. The thing is it will be like after the 22nd of this month. The thing is that the travel agent guy is making it sound like we'd have to get our tickets right now or lose them. I know the offer closes the 2nd of December, but they are rushing me! My friend pointed out that it was probably because of the holiday season, she's right. I'm all panicky, I want to go but...what should I do? And how come I haven't read about any parties for before and after the show, maybe that would be more of an incentive to come. Help me ME Listers, Carol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:17:57 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: A little of everything... Hello everyone... =) Just wanted to delurk for a minute... =) Welcome back POOH!!! =) I missed you sweetie... =) ... Hope your venture into the woods for a little rest and honey was peaceful... Leves and laughter form the trees can calm anyone's soul... I am a little sad... My kitty died on Saturday... =( I miss her... One day she was fine and the next she got sick... She died at the vet... Her spirit is with me and I'll always love her... I'll be okay... It's just hard... *sigh*... I have a question for anyone who can help... I tried to get on the MEIN Mailing list... The e-mail one and have not succeeded, ... Can anyone help me... Thanks in advance for any help... =) Uumm... That publicity phot of Melissa in the dress... Could that have been taken when she filmed "Theresa'a Tattoo"...? Hhmm... Well, that about it for now... I send a smile and hug to everyone... =) (((hug)))... Pecae, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ************************************************* "...i'll be riding that train, i'll be singing that song, but i won't be gone for long... the angles won't have it..." m.e. in memory of my kitty Stella... I love you... ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:23:57 -0800 From: Marleen Niekel Subject: Bryan Adams single FOUND !!! Hi all, Tim Dunker wrote: > I haven`t heared anything new either. But I also didn`t hear anything, that > a new BA-single is out since I have posted my mail. Or am I wrong on this ? > I got the information from someone who should know, but he couldn`t tell me > when it was going to be published. - So we have to be patient. Let me tell you all you listers something... ... I BOUGHT THE SINGLE 'BOUT HALF AN HOUR AGO!!! The duet with Melissa: It's only love, is on the latest BA single called "star". But be carefull, 'cause there's two versions of that single, one hasn't got the duet with Melissa on it, but sth else (can't remember what). BTW I bought it in Holland, and I've got no clue what's the deal with release dates in the rest of the world. Just check you local record-shop. GOOD LUCK!!! P.S. Lori (don't know your last name) if your already back reading this list (probably not), It was great to meet you (just bumping into an american lister, on a dutch record-show, that's what I call, coincidence;-) Bye, Marleen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:32:47 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: MEIN home page Hi, (to the person that asked about MEIN) I noticed that someone asked about MEIN. Well, my friend...It stands for Melissa Etheridge Information Network, and there's a web page connected to it. I've typed the address below. You have to pay money to join to get certain access to the page, but it's your decision. It won't be worth it if you don't have audio on your computer, unless you're planning on buying concert tickets through them or join a tour. Anyhow, it's fun to look around there, here is the address: http://fanasylum.com/melissa/ Hope it helps, Bye Carol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:38:42 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: Melissa and makeup HI Folks, I'd just like to comment that I think people are too surprised that Melissa wears makeup. Just because she is a lesbian doesn't mean she totally dismisses anything feminine. I think she looks sexy with or without. Carol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:00:55 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: marriage, bisexuals, opinions Hey Deb! How are you doing? You seem to know a lot about the legalities of same sex marriage, which is why I was glad you answered my original post. Could you explain a little further about the Defense of Marriage Act? And are you saying that in time, the courts will recognize same sex marriage as being valid? That it' just a matter of enough of a fight being put up? What do you think needs to happen in order for the courts to recognize it? Like the way I pick your brain? Also, about gays hating bisexuals. If that's true, it's such a hypocritical thing, isn't it? I don't personally understand how someone could be bisexual. It seems like you should commit one way or the other, but...........my ignorance does'nt make me hate them. Anyway.......... Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:22:04 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: marriage, bisexuals, opinions Kathy said of bisexuals: >>It seems like you should commit one way or the other, but...........my ignorance does'nt make me hate them.<< Why should one "commit" one way or the other? Why should that matter? Is it not possible for a person to be capable of loving a member of *either* sex? Just wondering what your reasoning is here. Peace, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:48:05 -400 From: ANDY SMITH Subject: bisexuals Bisexuals are not different from anyone else. Gay men like men. Lesbians like other women. Why can't a man or woman like both. I think some people are being judgemental of them because they don't understand it. This concerns me, because "we" (gays, lesbians, AND BISEXUALS) are all in this together. We are fighting discrimination and harassment. We should be the ones who understand and are supportive. Life is very difficult to put up with society's pressures. I know a few bisexuals myself and there is nothing wrong or different with them. They are very kind and friendly. Just like anyone else. They are not misfits. I'm just asking you to think about what they feel. Try to understand it from their point of view. Thank you for taking the time to read this. Andy PS. Please forgive me, I'm not a good typist. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:08:47 +0000 From: Margaret McArdle Subject: Bryan Adams C.D. Hello all, Bryan Adams has just released a single "Angel" over here and theres no Melissa on the C.D although theres another mix with extra tracks to come. So I guess no-one is a travel agent,yes I still desperately seek flight info that could get me from Ireland to L.A. Friday & home Monday to join the MEIN package.Any info greatly appreciated.Thanks, Margaret ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:28:14 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: various stuff Tracey wrote: >Anyhoo, Aaron "Fumbling toward Ecstasy" Morrison asked: :) I've been listening to that cd constantly since I got it. Hey, do any of the more knowledgeable Sarah fans on this list know when she's gonna release a new cd? And why is her b-sides collection so expensive? I thought it was an official release, am I wrong? >Or Newborn, Georgia. Can you imagine walking around being called Newborn at >the age of 50? Well, at least they would remain youthful throughout their life! Or at least sound that way from their name. Intercourse MI, Hell MI, Walla Walla WA... there are lots of aweful possibilties! My great aunt Mabel was born near the Palouse river in Washington state, and Palouse became her middle name -- luckily she had a slightly better first name to go by. Kim wrote: >Bisexuals are the link between hetero and homo sexuals... Well that's a unique way to put it! I think what Melissa meant was that with bisexuals becoming more vocal and visible, people will (hopefully) start to realize that sexuality isn't just gay and straight, and that there are all sorts of people, and that all of them are equally valuable. Or something like that. :) Yvonne wrote: >Could anybody tell this Dutch girl what the explanation is of WY??? MLE said on Storytellers that it's about falling for someone who couldn't care less about you... which unfortunately is a common occurence, especially for gay people... >MEIN just put out Melissa is going to be on The Tonight Show 19 December. >Mark your calenders.... She always seems to play the latest single on tv performances -- I wonder if she'll do NTG again, or if there's gonna be a fourth single? Fumbling, Aaron :) "The night is my companion and solitude my guide Would I spend forever here and not be satisfied?" --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:58:04 -0500 From: Michael Bunch Subject: Re: MEIN California Package??? OK, I had to ask... What exactly is this MEIN Package for California? Also regarding the show December 22, what happened to the Universal Ampitheatre? Now it's the Sports Areana??? Michael PS Eileen, will see you Friday. Allison, I'll check on that "status" for you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:19:51 GMT+1200 From: Paula Gilliver Subject: Re: Melissa books? and bisexuals Hi Guys! > Could anyone please tell me whether Melissa has published a biography or if > there are any books about the lovely Melissa. No biographies that I could find....at least not in Global Books in Print. The only thing printed is the music for ME's first album. I heard through a reliable source that the > videotapes in the US are different to the ones in New Zealand, and can't be > played in > our VCRs. Does anyone know anymore about this? Unfortunately tis frequently true, but I believe they can be got. At least from the big distributors.... If you're hunting 'round over ther ask if it's VHS 1/2" PAL format. As for bisexuals....yes well, I find it sometimes strange when my partner refers to herself as a lesbian when prior to me she had always been with guys - had never even considered females at all! and I know she still finds guys more attractive/appealing. It seems that lesbian is a title that doesn't really fit in her case. I believe that sexual orientation is on a continum - not either or. Me - I've never had a boyfriend - but if Shelley and I ever broke up, I wouldn't rule it out (though I think it highly unlikely) simply because I like to think that you fall in love with a person - not thier body. I guess I'm just an idealist. I worry when people talk about "committing" one way or the other. As far as I'm concerned there is no real choice - you just have to accept it. By "committing" you could miss out on something really special. I'm glad Shelley didn't committ....... Paula. aka - Conan the Librarian, "What do you mean you do not understand the Do We Desimal system?" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:26:06 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: MEIN California Package??? On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Michael Bunch wrote: > What exactly is this MEIN Package for California? I think, and I'm sure those of you attending will correct me, it includes the San Diego and LA shows plus hotel accomodations at the lovely "one-night-stand" Ramada in the heart of West Hollywood. Hmmm, I'm thinking that there should be a SoCal gathering after the LA show? Perhaps at the Normandie Room in Weho? It's close to the Ramada and many other "play spots" in town. What do you all think? > Also regarding the show December 22, what happened > to the Universal Ampitheatre? Now it's the Sports Areana??? No kidding! I spread an early rumor about Universal Amphitheatre and I was really hoping it would come through, but I knew it wouldn't when Melissa announced only one LA date. UA is too small. How is the LA Sports Arena anyway? At least it's better than driving all the way down to Irvine. > PS Eileen, will see you Friday. Hey Mike, are you and Eileen planning a surprise birthday bash for lil ol' moi? You shouldn't have. No really I couldn't. That's too generous.... oh, you didn't. I knew that. > Allison, I'll check on that "status" for you. heh. i'm just trying to keep the performers happy :) Allison "LA has no seasons...well, pilot season." edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:02:03 -0600 From: "Cindy S. Hughey" Subject: B-Day Wishes? Since I'm forced to spend my 21ST birthday alone. HAPPY BIRTHDAY 2 ME HAPPY BIRTHDAY 2 ME HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHAKAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY 2 ME =:) =:) =:) =:) =:) =:) =:) =:) =:) =:) =:) =:) =:) =:) Cindy S. Hughey a.k.a SHAKAY hugheyc@email.uah.edu U of Alabama Huntsville ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 12 Nov 1996 to 13 Nov 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Thu Nov 14 00:01:08 1996 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:00:27 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 13 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:57:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: European Listmembers listen !!! Hi again, forgot something !!! All European Listmembers listen: On a radiostation in Holland they said yesterday that Melissa would come at the beginning of this December to Holland to give there 3 more concerts. A Dutch friend called me yesterday an she asked me if I heared anything about this. I checked it and there is no truth in this at all !!! - Sorry. Bye Tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:52:38 -0600 From: "Cindy S. Hughey" Subject: MEMPHIS!!! YES YES YES I AM (going to the concert and as ME said, "Well yes I am".) Finally got my ticket for the MEmphis concert On the floor, section DD, row 14, seat 12 Good? Bad? Any ideas? Cindy S. Hughey a.k.a SHAKAY hugheyc@email.uah.edu U of Alabama Huntsville ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:56:53 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: bisexuals Geeeez, I guess ya' really gotta watch how ya word things around here, huh?! I just meant it seems to me that if you've been with a man then with a woman or vice versa, I would think your body & emotions would prefer one over the other. (I know I do). Therefore, I thought one would want to commit to the one that felt more right and not go back and forth. I guess I was speaking from experience. But.... you people have been kind enough to point out to me that maybe there are those who have the ability to be as physically and mentally into one sex as much as the other. I gotta say though, I was not slamming anybody. I was basically claiming ignorance! So sorry if I offended anybody. Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:02:41 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: fashion/labels/Sarah M. DOUG wrote: >> must say that Melissa AND Ellen could take some fashion tips from >> Miss Ru. I don't know, Doug. I think he'd look better in a dress than they do. >> do feel that the label bisexual is a cop-out. If somebody isn't experimenting or pretending but honestly is attracted to both sexes, how can it be a cop-out? Deb wrote: > What is the definition of marriage in the US? If it's "between a > man and a woman", there's your answer. >> There was no definition, just an assumption. Well, it is the definition here. >> No wonder you're so cranky, hanging out with all of those ignorant >> people. :) And why do you think I stopped hanging out with them? Kiva wrote: >> I have a question for anyone who can help... I tried to get on the >> MEIN Mailing list... The e-mail one and have not succeeded, This may sound like a stupid question but are you a member? Carol wrote: >> I'd just like to comment that I think people are too surprised that >> Melissa wears makeup. Just because she is a lesbian doesn't mean >> she totally dismisses anything feminine. I don't think people are surprised that she wears makeup (regardless of sexual orientation) but the amount she wears. Aaron wrote: >> of the more knowledgeable Sarah fans on this list know when she's >> gonna release a new cd? I've heard February of next year. >> And why is her b-sides collection so expensive? I thought it was >> an official release, am I wrong? It is but only in Canada. In the US it's an import...Could be that the February release is the b-sides collection. Or that the February release is in Canada and it will be later in the US. >> with bisexuals becoming more vocal and visible, people will >> (hopefully) start to realize that sexuality isn't just gay and >> straight, and that there are all sorts of people, and that all of >> them are equally valuable. Or something like that. :) I like this interpretation! Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:46:12 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Sesame Street My 5 year old nephew has been a long time fan of Melissa, since he was 2! He told ME that Melissa was going to be on Sesame Street next week!!! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:45:57 +0000 From: "Monica M. Jenkins" Subject: Melissa in Charlotte! Hello MElisters, New to the group, Just wanted to let you know that Melissa was awesome in Charlotte NC, last night 11-12. I had second row dead center to her mic. I was in heaven!! I just could'nt get "Never Enough". If you have never heard her do JJ you are missing something good. I also like JJ very much but I almost think that ME does her better. I found her do JJ on some bootleg cd's from MFTM. After the first of the year MFTM is not going to be available anymore. This is my first posting hope that it works! Monica-CRZY4HER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:01:06 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: Storytellers, YIA tour I was re-watching Storytellers on the trusty VCR today. When ME sang "No Souveniers," I couldn't help but remember back to the 1994 YIA tour. Remember the set she did, with just her & her guitar, sitting on a bar stool, with the pool table light? I really enjoyed that set. It was my very first ME concert- and only a few months after that, I graduated high school in the same auditorium, which I found amusing, because I found my mind wandering back to that concert all during the Senior Speakers....oh, now I've gone & dated myself, "peep" that I am.. (no comments, Beth!!) Anyway, back to my point (and I promise, I have one...) Does anyone have the setlist from that tour? Better yet, was there a tape tree from this tour? Any way I could get my hands on a copy? I should get going now! Later, mary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:24:50 -0800 From: Cindy Hoeflak Subject: DiFranco Hi there?! Only 7 days till I fly out from Kiwi country!! (Woohah!!) Anyway, that's not what this is about. I've been invited to the Ani DiFranco (sp?) concert in Amsterdam in December (HI Katinka!! :D ) but none of us really know what she's like! To tell you the truth, I've never actually heard of her, neither has anyone else in New Zealand (well, the people I've asked anyway, which obviously isn't the entire population :D ). Would anyone be kind enough to let me know a bit about Ms DiFranco, the type of music she performs, etc. Are there any other Dutchies going to that concert? Thanks! Have a lovely day! :D Cindy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:16:44 -0500 From: "A.D.Eder" Subject: YLS, speaking true another .02 cents...personal opinion of the YLS songs...i actually like every song, as i do all of melissa's music, not a note of disappointment....can't think of another musician i could say that about, .......as for someone's sexual preferences, i think people need to open their eyes and their minds to the reality that loving another person doesn't have to have restictions based on gender or color, just be true to your own feelings...everyone should have that freedom without fear of being "hated " for it...wouldn't this be a nicer planet to live on... :-) andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:44:46 -0500 From: JENNIFER SASS Subject: Re: names and other things > Kimberly R Gassner-Harkness wrote: > > >> Bisexuals are the link between hetero and homo sexuals... On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Elaine Naiman wrote: > Funny, most gays I've met hate bisexuals. > That is a pretty general and untrue statement. Maybe that is how you feel, but I doubt if most gays hate bisexuals. My g/f is bi and I don't love her any less because of that. Her being bi is no different then her having brown eyes instead of blue. Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:52:58 -0500 From: JENNIFER SASS Subject: Re: Janis movies On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Deb wrote: > > wondered that. I notice one of her songs makes reference to being wired, > > although that could mean a lot of things. > > I apply the term to myself after a triple macchiato (that's an espresso drink, > for those of you who prefer your caffeine cold, or not at all ). > A triple espresso? I just started at a coffeehouse and can barely tolerate one, but a triple?? /me bows down to Deb! Love, Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:54:47 -0600 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Eleanor McEvoy - tentative dates Please note that this information was provided to the Eleanor McEvoy mailing list members by her mgt. company - and with the disclaimer that these are *very tentative*, subject to confirmation (in other words, not yet solid enough to be posted to the Eleanor McEvoy website pages (URLs at the end of this post) For the information of MElisters who've recently expressed interest in Eleanor McEvoy's music, during the end of November (november 20-December 8) she and her brother Kieran (guitar in her band) are doing a promo tour in the US. Some tentative dates - and the radio stations they are associated with (cue to give them a listen) are: some are unconfirmed so check local Radio/Press/Venue for Details. (and I'm probably in hot water with denise for posting this) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ November 21 - Boston (South Station) / WBOS - free noon appearance (CONFIRMED) December 2 - San Francisco / KLLC (VERY TENTATIVE) December 4 - Rochester NY / WPXY (CONFIRMED) December 6 - Boston (Hard Rock Cafe) / KISS108 (CONFIRMED) December 7 - Connecticut (no city) / WQGN (TENTATIVE) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eleanor McEvoy Online Resources Email: eleanor@dojo.ie Newsgroup: alt.fan.eleanor-mcevoy Web Page: http://www.dojo.ie/eleanor/ Mail list: http://www.dojo.ie/eleanor/maillist.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carolyn (who did have a more enjoyable shopping experience at the Dominick's grocery store on Monday due to the appearance of NTG on their music system ... ok, ok, I'm easy - *MUSICALLY WHILE GROCERY-SHOPPING*) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Carolyn Andre Chicago shows list (folk/singer-songwriter/Celtic): Chicago, IL / USA www.mcs.com/%7Ecandre/shows.html candre@mcs.net Mary Black discography: www.mcs.com/%7Ecandre/mblack.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:24:40 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: names and other things On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, DOUG wrote: > Elaine wrote: > ***Funny, most gays I've met hate bisexuals. > > Personally I don't hate someone who says that they are bisexual...I > do feel that the label bisexual is a cop-out. I just thought I'd put in my little imput on this subject. Here is a clip of another listserve that I thought made a lot of sense. - I think that it is more important for you to find a way to be yourself - rather than to find a way to be straight or gay. - What matters the most in your life is what you choose to value. In - every life mutually exclusive choices are often unavoidable." I just don't think these labels are necessary. Why do we feel we need to put labels on love and attraction of people? I don't know, maybe I'm just feeling a little philisophical right now and I'm not understanding the topic at hand completely, but that is how I take comfort in seeing it. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:37:28 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: SP Deb wrote of Shriner's Park not being her favorite song. I like it a lot. It's one of her songs where I identify so much with the images and I get so full of emotion I choke up and feel overwhelmed. The train in the night in my home town, the woman I was in love with in high school whose mother forbid her to see me (the mom thought I was a lesbian, imagine that), we sneaked out to meet some, (but my mom's chevy was green, and a Vega, if that counts). Trying to make some sense. The vision is intense. Those midwestern summers, full of fog, etc. etc. She still lives back there somewhere. -marcy ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 13 Nov 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Thu Nov 14 17:12:29 1996 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:11:48 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 13 Nov 1996 to 14 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:27:03 -0600 From: Patty Kolakowski Subject: Attachments Hi, I keep getting digest messages with attachments that my Active Movie can't play. What am I doing wrong? What are they?? I saw Melissa in Pensacola and New Orleans. I didn't expect the P'cola show to be sold out because this is really Country Music territory, but I was really supprised the N.O. show was not. How has the attendance been at other shows? Any thoughts on the lack of interest. Has she been touring too much? Is "Your Little Secret" the problem. After all the whole point of the tour is to support the album. Just wondering. pk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:34:00 MST From: MiChelle Smith Subject: Re: Funny, most gays I've met hate bisexuals. On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Elaine Naiman wrote: > Funny, most gays I've met hate bisexuals. That is kind a the case where I am here in New Mexico especially being very much bi and female. I mainly get it from the lesbians though, most of my friends are gay men and even some of them give it to me. It is so strange I go to the gay functions here and I know most of the local gay community and they all are cool hanging around until.... I wind up leaving the party in the arms of the best looking gay male. I never get hit on by any of the women though. I did go to one party and was in a three-way kiss with two gay male friends and one girl seemed curious but she never said anything but them again her wife would have killed me. MiChelle Support AIDS research!!!! Nothing is deadlier than ignorance!!!! "and it's me who is my enemy me who beats me up me who makes the monsters me who strips my confidence" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:08:43 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: SP and missing images On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Marcy Kunst wrote: > Deb wrote of Shriner's Park not being her favorite song. > I like it a lot. It's one of her songs where I identify so much with the > images ^^^^^^ This is in no way meant to disparage any of Mary's thoughts and feelings (music, I know, speaks to us all in ways beyond any traditional sense of composition and I love hearing how ME's songs have touched people)... but but but I'm stoked on Sudafed, in a prvocative mood, and couldn't resist, especially since I just plain hate YLS and have long since given my cd away. I put out an M.I.B. (missing image bulletin) when I first heard YLS. I mean, if anyone can find one true stark-raving, complex, non-transparent image on the whole cd (not just a good line but a real image that would make your English prof happy now) I'll...well...I'll...I'll give up my lifetime goal of dating Ellen. There I said it. Someone find me something along the lines of: * I can feel the steel of the red hot truth * The spear in your side is me OR the child who walked before she crawled * I thought I saw you clutching your sin * The paint's still wet in your do it by number dreams * Hello hello, this is Romeo, calling from a jackpot telephone That said, and the Sudafed wearing off, I'll admit I'm fond of "Is there a rhythm in your step now/ That reminds you of a dance" which isn't so much an image as a metonym, but like I said... Of course, this is all in good fun and I would love it if someone could save this cd for me (Melissa did it at Storytellers but only in the sense that I saw the songs were important to her)...so cmon, let the images flow... Allison "Strawberry blondes do have a way of coming edgy@netcom.com in around the edges of reason." --LT (11/96) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:04:44 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: janis, kitties, and makeup Deb said: >She's done "Piece of My Heart," "Me & Bobby McGee," and "Mercedes >Benz" in concert for years, and she's done them justice, IMO. Very >faithful renditions. and at least 2 BAB'ers (hi, jj!) have seen her do "down on me" and "ball and chain", in addition to POMH, at the S.F. maritime hall appearance with big brother in june. woo wee! :-D ============================== Kiva Kamerling said: >I am a little sad... My kitty died on Saturday... =( I miss her... >One day she was fine and the next she got sick... She died at the >vet... Her spirit is with me and I'll always love her... I'll be >okay... It's just hard... :-( losing pets is so difficult. my kitty, mindy, died last year (she had a malignant mammary gland tumor that had metastasized to her lungs) the day before my brother and i were going to take her to the vet to put her to sleep. she was 15, which is a good long life as far as kitties go. i still miss her, too. :-( ============================== Carol Andredesz said: >I'd just like to comment that I think people are too surprised that >Melissa wears makeup. Just because she is a lesbian doesn't mean she >totally dismisses anything feminine. i don't think it's the fact that she wears makeup that people are commenting on, but the quantity or intensity. blend, blend, blend! *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:21:38 -0800 From: Christine Du Bois Subject: bisexuality and Kiva's kitty One MLE lister said: > Personally I don't hate someone who says that they are bisexual...I > do feel that the label bisexual is a cop-out. Another said: > Also, about gays hating bisexuals. If that's true, it's such a hypocritical > thing, isn't it? I don't personally understand how someone could be > bisexual. It seems like you should commit one way or the other, > but...........my ignorance doesn't make me hate them. To confuse y'all further, I consider myself a "bi-dyke." Technically, I define myself as more dyke than bi, but I also realize that sexuality is *fluid*, not static. I like to look at men, but I am definitely woman-oriented, centered and identified. Some people are capable of being attracted to both genders; some date and make love with members of both genders; others inifinitely prefer one gender. What everyone should consider, however, is that you can actually be bisexual and yet engage in relationships with only *one* gender. Theory vs. practice! There isn't a pat definition of bisexuality, lesbianism, et al...it's what you make of it. It also has little, if anything, to do with "commitment." Kiva said: > I am a little sad... My kitty died on Saturday... =( I miss her... One day > she was fine and the next she got sick... She died at the vet... Her spirit > is with me and I'll always love her... I'll be okay... It's just hard... > *sigh*... I am thinking of you and your kitty. I'm so sorry...I've lost dogs and cats, and I still miss them tremendously. I am sending you e-hugs in abundance. Bright blessings, Christine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 02:01:11 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: Re: missing images Hi all, I couldn't pass this one up... Allison, at the risk of looking like a smartass (okay, I *am* being a smartass) would the line: "This too shall pass..." make my english prof happy?? Actually, it has taken me till this past month or so to actually get to like YLS. I *tried* to like it when it came out... but when I realised I was fast forwarding through every song but NTG, I gave it up for a bit. I guess my favorite line from it all is: "They never woke up...from the American Dream" Kinda nice, though I have to admit I prefer: "I can feel the steel of the red hot truth" Anyway, that's my humble two bits on the subject. mary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:24:41 +0100 From: Yvonne Hendricks Subject: My 2 cents Hy y'all, > ***Funny, most gays I've met hate bisexuals. > > Personally I don't hate someone who says that they are bisexual...I > do feel that the label bisexual is a cop-out. This is like on the list for 3 days now.. I just wanted to put in my opinion.. Why do we want to put anything in just black and white, why do we do the things, we (generalization, not everybody blah, blah....) don't want others to do to us. Just except people the way they are...we want that for us too, y'know.. I also now bi-sexuals and indeed there is nothing wrong with them, as they put it they love humans... Imagine, you're bi and you've got problems with it already, and then there are people who condemn you for it..I mean jeez...Why do we have to be so judgemental.. Just because you don't understand that anybody can feel that way, doesn't mean that it is wrong... Just wanted to say that. Yvonne Yvonne Hendricks TNO-TPD-TU Instrumentatie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:41:21 +0800 From: Mardi Subject: Di Franco >From: Cindy Hoeflak >Subject: DiFranco >Anyway, that's not what this is about. I've been invited to the Ani DiFranco >concert in Amsterdam in December (HI Katinka!! :D ) but none of us really know > what she's like! To tell you the truth, I've never actually heard of her, neither > has anyone else in New Zealand (well, the people I've asked anyway, which obviously OH MY GOD...Run, don't walk to this concert and be bloody thankful to be there..what I would give to go...what I would sell...what I would DO..what I would go without... I want to be Ani Defranco...I want to play guitar like her...I want to write songs like her...I want I want...so there. My God , I think I am premenstrual. So have all you slackers gone to the new improved incredible Velvet Janes page yet(ex Sistablue)?? Downloaded great music...looked at great photos (that's me with the curly hair...the cheeky looking one) ;-Q ...PArts of it are updated every week..so quick...now, line up...no pushing..... Yours most endearably..did I just make up that word? Mardi The Velvet Janes (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7848/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:56:56 EST From: DOUG Subject: bisexuality, plus... Hey all, This bisexual thread has stayed alive longer than I would have thought. I want to address this and a couple of other things. First, I should clarify an earlier post of mine...In response to Elaine's statement "Funny, most gays I've met hate bisexuals.", I stated that I feel the label 'bisexual' is a cop-out. I base this opinion on the 'bisexuals' I KNOW (like Elaine's statement was based on gays that she KNOWS!). All of the bisexuals I know are merely using the label bi to hide the fact that they are truly homosexual/lesbian. They don't feel as guilty if they call themselves bi instead of gay. This is fine with me...I mean who am I to judge? I, personally, used to do the same thing...until I realized that I cannot fall in love with a female, I need the love (not sex) of a man. I look at women and appreciate the beauty of a woman, but I'm gay and need the lovin of a good man 8-). Now, Elaine was 'jumped' for voicing her opinion based on the people she knows. That is crap and, to me, intolerable. I don't know everyone she does and I find it hard to believe that anyone on this list knows everyone she knows. Her opinion is hers and mine is mine. I can't speak for Elaine, but when I voice an opinion it is based on more than impulse. I don't just blurt out stuff without giving it some thought. Okay. On a lighter note, in response to my statement about Melissa and Ellen taking some fashion tips from RuPaul...Elaine said "I don't know, Doug. I think he'd look better in a dress that they do." Well, yeah you're right about that. RuPaul is a fabulous drag queen and one of the most beautiful people in the world, but they could still use some tips. Did you all see Ellen last night? Loved the outfit she wore for the video, but hated the hair! Later, Doug (and John) PS - Are any of you going to watch the big Dallas movie tomorrow night? I can't wait...every night now at 11 pm I am up watching re- runs of Dallas on TNN! It's great. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 06:32:49 -0800 From: Britt*! Subject: Ani DiFranco Hey all.. Well, in answer to a question (can't remember who asked!), Ani DiFranco is an *excellent* artist and her concert is NOT to be missed... I have caught is twice so far, hoping for a third! She is angry, sarcastic and her lyrics are thought-provoking... You know, I worte a review of her concert for a newspaper, if anyone is interested in a copy (no, really, i'm not trying to promote my own writings! :P ) anyways... that's my 2 cents worth... KIP, Britt ****************************************************************************** * "She says 'Forget what you have to do/Pretend there is nothing * * outside this room'/And like an idea, she came to me/But she came * * too late, or maybe too soon..." -Ani DiFranco "She Says" * ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:36:11 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: RuPaul & Cosmetics Doug responded to my post on MLE's photo: >I don't remember reading this whole message so I don't know for >certain that the mention of RuPaul is meant as derogatory...but I >must say that Melissa AND Ellen could take some fashion tips from >Miss Ru. (Hell, most of the so-called supermodels should go to Ru >for tips!) IMHO as always! Actually my reference to RuPaul was meant as a high compliment because I think he has great fashion sense. :-) I went on to say after mentioning Ru, "Ooo la la... very nice" because I thought MLE looked exceptionally attractive and fashionable in that shot. While I'm on the fashion topic, I wanted to respond to Carol Andredesz' post: >I'd just like to comment that I think people are too surprised that >Melissa wears makeup. Just because she is a lesbian doesn't mean she >totally dismisses anything feminine. I think she looks sexy with or >without. I haven't noticed that people are suprised that MLE wears makeup. Rather, most comments have been about the *amount* of makeup she wears on occasion, as in too much foundation and/or eyeshadow. I thought her makeup on the Story Teller's program was way too heavy. Her whole face looked like it had been airbrushed with pink blush and eyeshadow. IMHO, if someone is going to use cosmetics, they should be applied to enhance the person's natural looks, not distract from them. Gwen (an Estee Lauder girl) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:04:59 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: Re: Cosmetics (MEC) Gwen Shinko wrote: >I thought her makeup on the Story Teller's program was way too heavy. Her >whole face looked like it had been airbrushed with pink blush and >eyeshadow. IMHO, if someone is going to use cosmetics, they should be >applied to enhance the person's natural looks, not distract from them. My guess would be a lack of communication between the director and the makeup artist. It seemed to me she had been made up for a traditional TV studio shoot, and not one which would be mainly filmed in extreme close-up. -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) matthewb@li.net http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 12:37:04 EST From: Virginia Siskavich Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 13 Nov 1996 I am usually just a "lurker" because I feel shy and would rather read what everyone else has to say, but the whole bisexual thing kind of got to me. Being bisexual is just as normal as any other sexual preference. I am bisexual and have been with a woman for my first time for a year now. I must say that I prefer THIS woman to any other, but all in all am attracted to men. There are gagillions of types of wonderful special people out there and it is necessary to stop the ignorance and understand one another the best we can!!! Back to lurkedness ( is that a word?) -V ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 09:54:35 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: missing images On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, mary harbaugh wrote: > Allison, at the risk of looking like a smartass (okay, I *am* being a *edgy bows* > "They never woke up...from the American Dream" > Kinda nice, though I have to admit I prefer: > "I can feel the steel of the red hot truth" Alas, while driving home last night through the desert, I thought of the following image: "Is a sad summer breath tangled in your hair?" I think that's a smart image that gives a new turn on a phrase and it is on YLS so that means <*sigh*> that my Ellen-lusting days are over. Oh the sorrow. I now need to discover a new, fame-bound, lust object. Suggestions welcome. Woe is me. Despairingly yours, Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:16:59 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: The Bisexual Thing/Thang/Issue/Topic Hi, all-- Just a friendly note from your resident moderator about the current Bi topic... Everything seems to be going *surprisingly* well wrt to this usually volatile topic...everyone presenting their own opinions and thoughts so politely and all...what's wrong with ya's? ;-) There are some good ideas and info being shared right now, let's be sure that we continue to 'play nice' and honor each other's differences. Thanks much! :-) jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 10:33:30 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: A message, a little late Hi guys, I just found out that this message in my box, I guess it didn't get through on Monday, so I'm sending out today instead. It's a little dated... Hello folks, I hope I can type this out okay. I am just barely recovering from the weekend. I, like most of us, saw Melissa on VH1 this weekend, and also on the "Duets" clips they showed, (with Jewel and ofcourse Joan Osbourne). One thing about "Storytellers" is that I've never really gotten to look at Melissa's pretty face well before. I think she is so beautiful because she is just a real person. That probably sounds ridiculous as everyone is a real person but y'all must know what I mean, watching that duet with ME and Jewel was painful. Jewel just kept leering at Melissa like she was in some girl-girl porno, (although it was interesting to watch), and she has no voice. She looks like a model thrown on stage and told to sing. Melissa seems more like a person that means what she sings, like she's feeling what she's saying. And also like the kind of person you might actually know. My boyfriend and I both commented on it, having not yet seen her live. We have the tickets in own back pockets though and it's becoming an exciting wait. Anyhow, I know a lot of you aren't in straight relationships, I thought you might want to know how Melissa makes straight guys feel, (you know as a woman, as a sex object, whatever). Cause I've wondered too, and I thought Matt's reply to my question of whether she turned him on or not was cool because I know Matt, and he feels uncomfortable telling me what turns him on. He has *never* told me about a particular girl on TV, movies or in music that he likes. But after some soul-stirring, sexy singing by Melissa on Storytellers, he was heard to reply to my question..."kinda". That there is information I never would have gotten if it weren't for the red wine we were drinking sisters! Anyway, it's cool that he feels that way because he knows I certainly feel stronger than that about her. So, just thought I'd share. I hope everyone had a great weekend. Let me know what you thought of Jewel and Melissa,(I'm probably being too harsh), I think Jewel provides sweet accompianment, (sp? wait, is that even a word?), but little more. Maybe she just seems talentless next to ME because ME's voice is so much stronger. Yup, well... then again..who knows? Also, anyone think the Matt story was neat? Carol ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:32:52 -0400 From: Magdalena Subject: Re: Bisexuals Hi There, Been lurking for a couple of months (too many things to do), but something really touching is happening here, so i'm back for a sec. (The lower case 'i' is part of my new 'image' , so please bear with me.) ANDY SMITH joined the bisexuals thread with: > I know a few bisexuals myself and there is nothing wrong or different > with them. They are very kind and friendly. Just like anyone else. > They are not misfits. > I'm just asking you to think about what they feel. Try to understand > it from their point of view. Gee, i'm glad to know i'm not a misfit. :) Thanks, Andy, for your kind words. As to understanding a bi's viewpoint, it's not really a matter of view, i think -- it's a matter of emotions and emotions alone. You either fall in love with someone or you don't, and the person's gender is of secondary importance. For me, anyway. You (i, anyway) fall in love with a person as a whole, not with his or her genitalia! It's the mind/soul, as well as the body, and possibly more than the body. Actually, right now i'm in love with two people, a man (for over 3 years) AND a woman (since fairly recently, but long enough for me to know that i still do love the guy, as well). BTW, in both cases my love is platonic (not that i wouldn't want that to change, of course!) -- neither of them knows about it, and probably wouldn't even want to know. C'est la vie.... Paula Gilliver wrote: > I believe that sexual orientation is on a continum - not either or. Ditto! > Me - I've never had a boyfriend - but if Shelley and I ever broke up, I > wouldn't rule it out (though I think it highly unlikely) simply because I > like to think that you fall in love with a person - not thier body. Believe it or not, i read your msg AFTER i responded to Andy's above! :) > I guess I'm just an idealist. Maybe. But this planet needs more of us, so there. Kathy at aol explained: > I just > meant it seems to me that if you've been with a man then with a woman or vice > versa, I would think your body & emotions would prefer one over the other. > (I know I do). And it's perfectly OK that you do. And it's equally perfectly OK that some people don't. BTW, Kathy, personally i didn't find your earlier remarks offensive, even though i sure don't agree with the "you should commit one way or the other" part. :) DOUG wrote and Elaine responded: > >> do feel that the label bisexual is a cop-out. > If somebody isn't experimenting or pretending but honestly is > attracted to both sexes, how can it be a cop-out? Not sure if i understand "cop-out" correctly (the dumb-foreigner syndrome ), but if i do, thumbs up, Elaine! :) Carol and then Elaine again: > >> with bisexuals becoming more vocal and visible, people will > >> (hopefully) start to realize that sexuality isn't just gay and > >> straight, and that there are all sorts of people, and that all of > >> them are equally valuable. Or something like that. :) > I like this interpretation! You took these words out of my mouth, both of you! :) (Don't wanna lead to any misunderstanding here, just realized this might be a literal translation of a Polish idiom meaning: i think exactly what you just said!) All for now. "take care my love my friend" (y'all know who) constantly craving (k.d. slightly misquoted), Mag, a.k.a. magda k. (pronounced /kah/ ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:02:38 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Re: The Bi Thread :) Hi Gang! Just an ever so humble question: Some days I like to eat clover honey, other days I like to eat honey from apple blossums. Both are mmmm! mmm! Good! Does this make me Bi????? And does it make me any the less sweeter?????? Just wondering! "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:22:04 -0400 From: CJ Subject: Re: Melissa books and videos Cindy wrote: <"I heard through a reliable source that the videotapes in the US are different to the ones in New Zealand, and can't be played in our VCRs." That is correct. The US uses a recording standard called NTSC for laying down videotape. Japan also, uses this standard. Most of the rest of the world adheres to standards called PAL and SECAM. These formats are not interchangeable, and although private conversion can be done by a studio, it can be costly. I wouldn't plan on buying videos while in Miami! Sorry. CJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 14:46:18 -0500 From: "Julie I. Lebaillif" Subject: Melissa & Jewel Carol wrote: "Jewel just kept leering at Melissa" I didn't see it that way at all. I thought she was sweet and just plain happy to be singing with someone as wonderful as Melissa (my opinion). I really like her voice too! It's different. Regarding Melissa's looks, I think she is really pretty and there is something very sensual about her. My husband doesn't agree with me and neither does my mother. She taped Storytellers for me, as I too have crappy TCI. She called me to tell me that I had forgotten to rewind the tape I gave her (aarrrgh) so I missed BMSW, but she said, boy is that woman UGLY!!!! I couldn't believe it. How can anyone think she is ugly??? She may not be beautiful to some people, but ugly is pretty harsh and I really can't see it. My husband says she is ugly too but I just think he's jealous. He doesn't understand my fascination with Melissa and if the truth be told, sometimes, neither do I. Later, Julie (& Olivier) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:11:57 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: labels, SMcL Kathy wrote: >I guess ya' really gotta watch how ya word things around here, huh?! I just >meant it seems to me that if you've been with a man then with a woman or vice >versa, I would think your body & emotions would prefer one over the other. > (I know I do). Therefore, I thought one would want to commit to the one >that felt more right and not go back and forth. I guess I was speaking from >experience. Well a lot of people do feel that way, but there are people who don't. Love/Attraction/Sex/Romance/etc. is a weird complex thing -- actually I tend to think it's all one big mess that never works out right, but that's just me. Elaine wrote: >>> And why is her b-sides collection so expensive? I thought it was >>> an official release, am I wrong? > >It is but only in Canada. In the US it's an import... Ah, that explains it. Roger wrote: > I just don't think these labels are necessary. Why do we >feel we need to put labels on love and attraction of people? Well, labels can be very useful. I have no problem with them, as long as people realize that they are *just* labels -- useful but not perfect. Aaron :) "The night is my companion and solitude my guide Would I spend forever here and not be satisfied?" --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:16:26 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: labels, SMcL > > I just don't think these labels are necessary. Why do we > >feel we need to put labels on love and attraction of people? > > Well, labels can be very useful. I have no problem with them, as long as > people realize that they are *just* labels -- useful but not perfect. Good Point! Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:49:29 -0500 From: Leslie Karen Davis Subject: Re: Melissa & Jewel On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Julie I. Lebaillif wrote: > Carol wrote: "Jewel just kept leering at Melissa" > > I didn't see it that way at all. I thought she was sweet and just plain > happy to be singing with someone as wonderful as Melissa (my opinion). I thought it went the other way, that Melissa was drawn to her a little bit. (IMHO) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:12:10 -0500 From: Sugarhon@AOL.COM Subject: orlando concert, and bisexuals Ok, i saw Melissa when she was in Orlando and she rocked! We made eye contact several times and she smiled and made hand gestures to me throughout the concert. At the end, i touched her hand. I have never been so entranced with someone in my life. She is totally the sexiest woman alive! Now about bisexuals, this is the name i prefer for myself since i am still in the years of discovery. But basically i don't like labels much anyway. I just consider myself open for anything. I am attracted to who i am attracted to and nobody has a right to dictate to me whether that is wrong or right. Usually i'm more attracted to women, but who cares if i suddenly want a guy? To each her own. Or his own. I say, as long as your true to yourrself, who cares what anyone thinks? just my opinion, -Jenn Lazar ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 13 Nov 1996 to 14 Nov 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Fri Nov 15 00:00:50 1996 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:00:08 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 14 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:20:05 -0500 From: Diane Boccadoro Subject: NMEC I know I'm late on this, but I just saw the Newsweek cover and I *totally* agree with the Janeane Garafolo (forgive spelling) comparison. And I'm *real* late on this, but does anyone else think that MLE looks like a blond Demi Moore on the booklet inside the NE CD? I remember thinking that when I first bought it. Any takers? Regarding bisexuality and labels, I totally agree with what Roger wrote: >I just don't think these labels are necessary. Why do we feel we >need to put labels on love and attraction of people? These kinds of labels just seem to be a way for other people to determine whether you have sex with men or women (like it's anyone's business, anyway) and then judge you on it. (And I limit this to the physical aspect only because that's what the ignorant people think those *other* relationships are solely based on.) and with what Joyce wrote: >Why should one "commit" one way or the other? >Why should that matter? Is it not possible for a person to be >capable of loving a member of *either* sex? It certainly is. I've been in heterosexual relationships my whole adult life and *anticipate* that I always will be. When I think of love I think of men. It's that simple. However, I won't hesitate to say that I find some women physically attractive (Jamie Lee Curtis and Valerie Bertinelli come to mind) and would never rule out that I could feel emotionally about a woman the way I do now about my husband. Doug wrote: >I do feel that the label bisexual is a cop-out. Why? I'm not busting balls. I don't want to argue the point or change your feelings or opinions, but I am interested in what they're based on, if you're willing to share. If you feel it's better discussed via private e-mail, that's fine. And Deb wrote probably the most sensible thing I've seen on the list in a long time: >As far as I'm concerned, everything on this list is opinion or >conjecture until proven otherwise. :) I thought everyone thought that way, but there I go, generalizing again! Diane B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:43:53 -0600 From: Patti Fink Subject: Texarse gatherings SueD here, we are sneaking into Patti's account here to post a real message! We are already into our fourth mean people suck toast, yahoo! (Hi Shirl, got Sam Adams at the DFW airport, October fest even). Now we have already been privy to a driving spasm by Karen, what a way to be introduced to Dallas. Hard to sight see at 70+ miles an hour, but it was fun trying! Oh, oh the Raunch woman is at it again. Hey, I resemble that remark! Look here, now, I want to claim diplomatic immunity in advance. I claim political asylum! It was not my knife! Mean people suck. Hey, what's everybody's name here, anyway? Who am I sleeping with tonight? OK OK....Patti here now.... I caught 'em!! Make that 5 "Mean People Suck" toasts!! We'll be heading out soon...hey Lizzard....ready for us all???? Hope we swerve down the road OK....if you don't hear from us within 2 days, worry!!! Off we go....7th row in Austin, here we come!!! Patti Fink pattif@iadfw.net Aarrrrgh, let me out, Patti. Here I come Lizzard, beware woman. SueD Heh, heh... Raunchia the Hittite ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:51:58 -0700 From: Tina Bess Subject: The Bi thang among others... howldy! been offa da list since april...i see elaine is still entitling everyone to her opinion, and none other. too bad somethings don't change. the bi thang...reserved on that, to some extent, since elaine's comment was taken out of context, we may never know what she actually meant. i for one, being bi, have felt negative vibes from gay folks ( never understood the term gay AND lesbian, thought it was the same thing) and hets. both sides wish bi's would just get off the fence. i've found it comfy here on my fence. kinda like that candy bar commercial. "sometimes ya feel like a nut, sometimes ya don't" unfortunately, the freedoms that 'gay' folks fight so hard for, apparently only include certain folks. (as not every "gay" person finds a personal dislike towards bi's or hets) nevermind that any person, no matter their preferences, deserves those self same rights. anyway, i see i babble. i'm glad to be back on the list, i've missed finding out mle stuff ahead of the news. i hope Melissa and Julie's child is borne unto a more aware world. "remember what they taught you, how much of it was fear? Refuse to hand it down, the legacy stops here" kip wolfie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:56:09 -0500 From: Diane Boccadoro Subject: Sorry, I'm on digest Didn't mean to beat Doug's statement to death in my last post. I'm on digest, and I happened to post my response just before I received the latest digest with his interpretation of his statement/opinion. And Kiva, my sincere sympathy on the loss of your kitty. I am a firm believer that animals can be better people than most people, and I'm sure your cat was your friend as well as your pet. Diane B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:24:30 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: Texarse gatherings Sue and Patti wrote: > SueD here, we are sneaking into Patti's account here to post a real message! > We are already into our fourth mean people suck toast, yahoo! SUE! You didn't finish the toast!!!...Nice People Swallow, remember? > Who am I sleeping with tonight? Just remember to lift that notebook from SueD's body and you will be alright! -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:16:42 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: bi OK, this topic has gone on so long I 'm gonna put my 2 cents in. I think sexuality is a spectrum, some people are 100% gay, some are 100% straight (so to speak), and there's a whole range of in between. Like a rainbow. Even tho I consider myself about 99% lesbian (maybe more), "some of my best friends" identify themselves as bi. And I don't think it's a cop out, tho in some cases it may be, due to fear of the consequences. But I don't see scared people get brave by being "yelled" at. I know I am stronger in my lesbian pride since Melissa came out, from her positive example, her strength, honesty, etc, etc, etc. There were people who harassed me when I came out, so the last thing I wanna do is question someone else's sexual orientation. I don't think I choose my feelings, only my actions. I think some of the hate directed at bisexuals is that some blame them for contributing to the spread of HIV. But it not sexual orientation that spreads disease. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:24:52 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: YLS OK, Allison: I think YLS is her best cd. I love the others, too, but this one seems more positive. I like the feelings provoked by the sadness and anger in the previous cd.s, but...I dunno, sometimes it's time to buy mangos and go to heaven. In think there's so much poetry in the YLS cd. Like most of ATWTH. "caught between the spirit and the dust, all the way to heaven is heaven, deep inside of us." "cotton candy fingers and a snow cone mouth, I wanna roll you in sawdust til they throw us all out, all the way to heaven"etc etc. SP: "is a sad summer breath tangled in your hair?" -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:33:06 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: jewel/duets Regarding the duets: I thought Joan Osborne was the one putting the moves on Melissa, it looked like Melissa was even a little nervous about it. I was talking to the VCR, telling Melissa to be the strong woman she is and not be intimidated, but I don't think she heard me, cuz everytime I play it it's the same. =) I thought Melissa was being nice to Jewel, like Jewel was a little sister, or maybe a part of what Melissa used to be (or is). I kept calling Jewel : Baby-Jewel, cuz that's what she seemed like (in a good way, like a baby dyke, tho I don't think she is, is she?). Anyway, I'm really not perverted (well, not very), but there is also a part in that Duets (can't remember where just now) where Melissa's panty line is apparently apparent thru the leather. Oooh, baby. Looks like Jockey for women, what do y'all think? (You know, they have those kinda thick seams). nuff said, maybe too much. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 19:38:13 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: A message, a little late Carol Andredesz wrote: > watching that > duet with ME and Jewel was painful. Jewel just kept leering at Melissa > like she was in > some girl-girl porno, I didn't see it that way AT ALL. I believe that Jewel was SO overwhelmed by being next to Melissa and singing one of her, Jewel's, favorite songs. She mentioned that she had been living out of her car at the time, she was 18, and she was HONORED to do it with her. Jewel was honestly humbled... And damn, she does have a voice, a good one. Remember how Melissa was overwhelmed by Bruce in the MTV Unplugged video? They had to do the take twice because Melissa was busy staring at Bruce and messed up some lines! Being with one's idols does strange things to one's psyche! -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:50:08 -0500 From: Elaine Naiman Subject: fashion tips DOUG wrote: >> On a lighter note, in response to my statement about Melissa and >> Ellen taking some fashion tips from RuPaul...Elaine said "I don't >> know, Doug. I think he'd look better in a dress that they do." >> yeah you're right about that. RuPaul is a fabulous drag queen >> and one of the most beautiful people in the world, but they could >> still use some tips. Ok, but do you think the tips, even if applied properly, would help? Gwen wrote: >> whole face looked like it had been airbrushed with pink blush and The definition of airbrush that I'm familiar with is when something is airbrushed out (ie, removed from) of a picture. I had this horrible thought of parts of her face missing. :-) Magdalena wrote: >> Carol and then Elaine again: > >> with bisexuals becoming more vocal and visible, people will > I like this interpretation! Actually that was Aaron who I was responding to. Aaron wrote: >>> And why is her b-sides collection so expensive? I thought it was >>> an official release, am I wrong? >It is but only in Canada. In the US it's an import... >> Ah, that explains it. Next time ask a Canadian friend to get it for you, silly boy. :-) You could also have ordered it direct from Nettwork but likely their shipping charges are higher than regular postage. >> Well, labels can be very useful. Keeps you from losing your mittens in the winter...Oops, that's name tags. Sorry. Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:31:55 -0800 From: Lisa Richards Subject: Bisexuality thread All this debate about bisexuality... I have my own personal feelings on the subject that I will spare all of you. Didn't this start because ME stated something like "it's the bisexuals in the world that would make the change"? I'd like to discuss this and first of all say I totally disagree. Change will not come from one group of people - it is all united that will make an impact. This is where the problem lies - we are divided. Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals and Trans' people all have their own issues but together we have one struggle - that of equal rights for ALL. As a politically active member of my community this seems to get lost. There are so many of us still in the closet for all sorts of reasons. Imagine if every queer person in this world were to come out and stand up and be counted and organize and make a stand - what power we would have! No one will ever change the mind of a close minded bigot - but all of us together can make a change and demand tolerance from the majority. Just my thoughts.. - Harley ******************************************* "America, America are you losing your mind?" - ADW LL Richards ****** aka Harley * * lirichar@adobe.com * ****************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:44:09 -0600 From: MJ Helveston Subject: doberpuppy - not (NMEC) rhondda>so when are you coming back to visit? nothing like talking about >"sheep boots" while downing coffee (with whipped cream! ) in the >middle of a freak snow flurry, huh? :-) hey, good to hear from one of you guys, bet the "sheep boots" comment raised a few eyebrows :) Chey is doing great, 80 lbs and too tall to ride in the convertible Z when the top is up! I will be in monterey next M-F.. unfortunately, it is business, business, business... no time to play on this trip :( maybe next time... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:44:02 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: I can't help it, I have to remark on... Hi Everyone, I think the bisexuality topic may be getting old but I had to throw in my two cents. I remember when I was just a small Carol, I was curious about sexuality and I couldn't ask anyone because I was scared. So, bookworm that I am, I went to the library to gain knowledge. There was nothing in my school library, ofcourse. But at the public library they had more information for me to look through. Mostly stats and stuff, but it was interesting to me. I have always remembered what I read. I read something that said reseachers believe that if more people were honest about it, that the sexuality of the population would be 30% homosexual or bisexual. 10% of that 30% are supposed to be purely homosexual, and the other 20% are said to be in the gray area between the two sexes, bisexuals. So, according to that, (which is old, I agree), there are more bisexuals than homosexuals. So, why do the homosexuals think they have the say? Just Kidding. I know that the real numbers are probably different. But I wanted to share what I remembered from my old research. I was really young. But that study made me feel better, like I wasn't alone. Like maybe I was just one of the ones admitting to it. Other than that, I think we are all very respectful to eachother about this kind of stuff. I think that is cool. Have a nice night, (no matter who you love tonight) Carol ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:59:17 +1000 From: Margo Hellyer Subject: NTSC/Sarah McL/Ellen and edgy no longer an item Cindy wrote: ><"I heard through a reliable source that the videotapes in the US are >different to the ones in New Zealand, and can't be played in our VCRs." CJ explained: >That is correct. The US uses a recording standard called NTSC for laying >down videotape. Japan also, uses this standard. Most of the rest of the >world adheres to standards called PAL and SECAM. These formats are not >interchangeable, and although private conversion can be done by a >studio, it can be costly. > I wouldn't plan on buying videos while in Miami! Sorry. Yes, the video formats between the US and NZ (and Australia) are different. Conversion is expensive and imho, not worth it because you can lose a great deal of quality from the conversion. However many new vcr's sold down under have NTSC playback features, and some of these vcr's are quite affordable. I guess you could hire one from a rental place as well. I have a copy of Elise's wonderful MLE compliation from 94/95 and after converting it from NTSC to PAL, the quality deteriorated considerably. Needless to say my next vcr shall have NTSC playback. Aaron and Elaine exchanged some information on Sarah McLachlans's possible new album ... release date in February. Good news! 'Fumbling Towards Ecstasy' is one of my fav cd's right now. Any opinions on the B-side compilation? I have a copy of the Freedom Sessions which I love. Allison lamented: >Alas, while driving home last night through the desert, I thought of the >following image: "Is a sad summer breath tangled in your hair?" I think >that's a smart image that gives a new turn on a phrase and it is on YLS so >that means <*sigh*> that my Ellen-lusting days are over. Oh the sorrow. I >now need to discover a new, fame-bound, lust object. Suggestions >welcome. Woe is me. Ah yes, lyrical highlights in YLS are rather few and far between. And you have picked out one of the few ... but Allison, is giving up on an Ellen pursuit justified. Methinks not. Does she not qualify for the esoteric 'strawberry blonde' status ? Close surely. Funny that there should talk of Ellen and RuPaul .. they were the hilarious double act on the opening of last night's episode of 'Ellen'. The spangly skin tight dress was a hoot and Ellen's fall from grace on the high heels inspired visual comedy. Margo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:00:05 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Re: The Bi Thread :-o On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, the Pooh wondered: > Some days I like to eat clover honey, > other days I like to eat honey from apple blossums. > Both are mmmm! mmm! Good! > Does this make me Bi????? > And does it make me any the less sweeter?????? Pooh, O dear, sweet, Bear of little brain! How do you do it? How do you manage to see past all the logic of our issues so plainly, and treat them with such sweet fresh sense? And such beautiful imagery? Watch out, Listers, Dan has a crush on the Bear. -- Dan in Toronto danc@terraport.net http://www.canscape.com/dancohen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 20:00:44 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Texas here I come The Texas 3-concert tour starts tomorrow in Austin. Yeehaaw!!! eh! See you on Tuesday! -- Dan in Toronto danc@terraport.net http://www.canscape.com/dancohen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:39:54 -0800 From: Lisa Richards Subject: ME Interview The following link is to a Melissa interview as Adam Curry's Vibe artist of the week. I had some trouble getting it to play - perhaps some of you will have better luck! http://metaverse.com/vibe/upclose/ ******************************************* "America, America are you losing your mind?" - ADW LL Richards ****** aka Harley * * lirichar@adobe.com * ****************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:01:44 -0500 From: Cynthia Donohue Subject: Re: ME Interview Lisa Richards wrote: > > The following link is to a Melissa interview as Adam Curry's Vibe artist of > the week. > I had some trouble getting it to play - perhaps some of you will have > better luck! > > http://metaverse.com/vibe/upclose/ Thanks, Harley! This was great! You will need to have the Real Audio Plugin to listen to this interview. Title: Up Close with Melissa Etheridge, Part One Author: Media America, Inc. Time: 50:19 Songs: AUK YLS NTG LTWID SF BMSW NS LMG AIH Most of this interview is a recap of what she has already said in different interviews. Although, I don't remember hearing about MLE winning a trophy in a music contest. Real Audio is wonderful! :-) Cynthia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:27:58 -0500 From: Cathi Subject: Bisexuals As this thread seems to have taken on a life of its' own....I've decided to de-lurk to add a few thoughts of my own.... I have also heard the comment about gays hating bisexuals, and it was never one I really understood. On the one hand there is whole issue of hypocrisy--how can people who know what it is like to struggle against sexual intolerance hate a whole group of people because of sexuality? But then again, I can see how a homosexual may feel that the person who identifies themselves as bi is coping out and not fully supporting the struggle against intolerance. Sex, no matter who you are can get very confusing. And then, if sexuality isn't static, how does the whole nature vs. choice arguement fit in? I do agree that sexuality seems to exist on a continuum [sp]. I identify myself as straight [not narrow], however I do have very strong feelings and attachements for some of my female friends [enough to have made me wonder....?....], but the thought of sex with another woman definitly doesn't do a thing for me...Mel Gibson on the other hand....hmmmm ;-) I must admit though that I do have a 'thing' about Melissa's hair... I am impressed by the civil tone of this whole discussion. Otherwise I probably wouldn't have ventured out into such mine filled waters. I am grateful to Melissa for indirectly introducing me to quite a few people that have opened my mind to new ideas. I always considered myself to be accepting of all people [well, except the mean ones]. But I probably fell into the very large category of people who didn't know they knew people who are gay. Anyway, because of shared interests in Melissa, a doorway for more honest and real relationships was opened. I hope that this has made at least a little sense. It's been a long, stress filled day [you try taking 16 children to a very small, crowded toy store....], and I am not feeling very coherent. Be Well, Cat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:59:51 +0000 From: Debbie Subject: VH1 Storytellers I missed the Storytellers with ME. Can anyone tell me when I can catch it again, if it'll be re-run in the near future? Also I've caught the talk about duets with ME and Jewel. The only one I've seen is with Joan Osborne (really rocks). Ever since I saw ME in concert a couple of months ago, I am in L O V E. Thanks to anyone that can answer my questions, please feel free to email me directly or post to the list. Debbie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:45:33 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Texarse gatherings Hey Sue.D Mean People DO Suck!!! Toast them all you can. By the way, we are talking "tanned breasts"here. On my Heart listserver we are talking Cleavage, like in Ann and Nancy Wilson's....is there any relation??? Are There anymore quotes you would like to share with us from the famous Philly Pub Crawl???!!!??? miss thing in philly and the hostess with the mostess! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:45:48 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Texarse gatherings This is Francie....the hostess with the mostess!!! LOL!!!! ROTFL!!! Let's get that dammed thing away from SueD. and burn it!! Hey, like one of my friend in Seatle said we could of had a way out orgy Saturday night. So, what did you people do when I went up to my LONELY bed Saturday night?!?!?! There were 4 of you in the living room!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:04:02 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Cyber-Hugs... I just want to thank everyone for all the kind words everyone said about my kitty... I miss her very much, but I am feeling better... All the e-mail and posts from everyone is so sweet. It really makes me feel better... And I am sure Stella apreciates it... Wherever her spirit is... Thanks... =) Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ************************************************* "...all the way to heaven..." m.e. ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:22:42 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: Texarse gatherings I'm so proud of you Sue, I knew you wouldn't let me down!! Did you get everyone to sign a release for any and all pictures taken which may appear for the list to view? On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Patti Fink wrote: > SueD here, we are sneaking into Patti's account here to post a real message! > We are already into our fourth mean people suck toast, yahoo! (Hi Shirl, > got Sam Adams at the DFW airport, October fest even). Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:24:27 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: Texarse gatherings So Sue, by chance are you sleeping on the COUCH????? > > Who am I sleeping with tonight? Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:28:54 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: Texarse gatherings Well being the shy demure one that I am I slept like a babe. Right SueD? Shirl Home Page: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Francie Trout wrote: > So, what did you people do when I went up to my LONELY bed > Saturday night?!?!?! There were 4 of you in the living room!!!!! ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 14 Nov 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Fri Nov 15 18:27:10 1996 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:26:31 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 14 Nov 1996 to 15 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 23:59:18 -0600 From: Patty Kolakowski Subject: Attachments Hi everybody: I keep receiveing digest messages with attachments that my Active Movie can't play. What am I doing wrong? What is in them?? I saw Melissa in Pensacola and New Orleans last week. My MEIN seats for the P'cola show were terrific. First row of the risers right next to the stage. Unfortunally I did not have MEIN tickets for the N.O. show and had to sit in the Peanut gallery. But the energy of the N.O. show was fantastic. She has a day off between shows and by the way she talked got to party some in N.O. The crowds at both shows were wild, but N.O. seemed to turn her on. This part of Florida is really Country Music territory so I didn't expect the show to be sold out, but I was suprised the N. O. show was not sold out. How has the attendence been at other shows. A few of the messages mentioned small crowds. Has she toured too much recently or is this a Southern thing. I know "Your Little Secret" was not very well received by the critics, but after all the whole point of the tour is to promote the new album. Just wondering. pk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 21:47:08 -0800 From: AJ Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 14 Nov 1996 Hey ther MElisters! It has become apparent to me that Marcel thinks that I am a MAN. While that may be all well and good for most people who are (=)) ----I ain't one! AJ stands for Amy Jo; but only my ma calls me that. And I kindly ask everyone to just stick to "AJ". I'm only mentioned it for the purpose of clarification. Marcel--thanks for your official OK--but maybe a little hasty to assume, presume, that I am a man. But oh well--shit happens! Good Vibes to One and All, AJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 02:31:28 -0500 From: Jen Subject: Thread catch-up Please excuse me if I sound fuzzy. It's been a very loooong day. For the bi thread - I will add only these quotes I found, in all places, at the bottom of my checkbook register. "The only abnormality is the inability to love." Vincent, Bayone "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" Salvatore, SF "Love between two people, wether of the same sex or of a different sex, is to be treasured and repected." Cardinal Basil Hume, Head of the Roman Catholic Church in Britain Take these as you will. For Kiva - I share your grief. For imagery in YLS - Generally, all of SP. I have been there, figurativly speaking. Specifically *Your fear is turning into hate, with hate you justify your crime, a crime compassion can erase.* We all find our own imagery based on our own expierences. I have been ostracized, verbally abused, physically abused, and lost two jobs because of ignorant fear. The legacy stops HERE. Bright Blessings Jen Who is going to sleep for 2 hours so she can face that modern torture chamber known as the dentist's chair. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:12:12 BST From: Kate Blackmon Subject: Re: Ani DiFranco (and other NMEC) Britt*! wrote: > > Well, in answer to a question (can't remember who asked!), Ani > DiFranco is an *excellent* artist and her concert is NOT to be > missed... I have caught is twice so far, hoping for a third! She is > angry, sarcastic and her lyrics are thought-provoking... Sarah L. and I saw Ani in July at Dingwalls in Camden Lock, and she was fantastic! We both thought she was extremely *sweet*, rather than angry or sarcastic, however. She's back in London mid-December, so any UK listers should mark their calendars. Another recent muscial sighting includes Shawn Colvin at the Hanover Grand Monday night, a wonderful concert in spite of a couple of extremely rude (and tall) concert-goers. It's not really a concert unless you can see the singer's fillings, I always say. ;) Next week is Dar Williams -- after seeing her in the extremely sedulous Royal Festival Hall, the Jazz Cafe should be a much more lively venue. --- I'll let Woody Allen have the last work on bisexuality - It doubles your chance of having a date on Saturday night. --- Elaine cogently observed: >> Well, labels can be very useful. > Keeps you from losing your mittens in the winter...Oops, that's > name tags. Sorry. Whoa, Elaine, doesn't everyone have their mittens attached through their sleeves with a piece of string? Only me? How embarrassing. --- Margo Hellyer exclaimed: > > I have a copy of Elise's wonderful MLE compliation from 94/95 and > > after converting it from NTSC to PAL, the quality deteriorated > > considerably.Needless to say my next vcr shall have NTSC playback. Just wanted to add that I have a dual mode playback VCR (PAL/NTSC), which lets me play videos from the US like Sarah McLachlan & the Indigo Girls. One caveat -- there is still a quality loss as you're playing it through an NTSC telly -- you can definitely see the difference in colour and picture definition. Yikes, unusually chatty for Friday morning, Everyone have a great weekend, Kate -------------------------------- K. Blackmon, Research Fellow Centre for Operations Management London Business School Fax: +44-171-724-7875 Phone: +44-171-262-5050 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:40:40 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: Attachments Patty Kolakowski wrote: > out. How has the attendence been at other shows. A few of the messages > mentioned small crowds. Has she toured too much recently or is this a > Southern thing. I know "Your Little Secret" was not very well received by Chapel Hill was not sold out and I heard rumors that she almost cancelled. SEVERAL people around me, on the floor, said that it wasn't very well advertised. Some, more than one, only found out about the concert 2 days earlier! I'm ging to attribute it to the Southern Thing and the high prices, escpecially when targetting students. $41 buys alot of other essentials for them. -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:47:39 -0600 From: Tracey Thacker Subject: A Whole Bunch of Threads Make A Shirt (SMEC) Greetings. . . At 01:27 11/13/96 -0500, Elaine Naiman wrote: >Tracey "Phantom of Mlether" Thacker wrote: For a phantom, I'm posting a lot lately, but I just can't help it. Too many good threads lately. >>> Friends just named their new son "Floyd Norman". >Maybe they're Pink Floyd and "Psycho" fans. :-) Or maybe they're just psycho themselves. Actually, I have little room to talk about names, as most of my family has some odd names, and truth be told, I was to called "April Joy" until my father, wonderful man that he was, looked at me and said "Unh-uh, this child can't be called "April", that's one of those icky girly names. Lets try again." >>>I feel so lucky to be a part of the Globe Trotter's Tour De North >>>America, I don't know what to say! >You'll pay for the munchies? ;-) Uh, well. . . perhaps we'll go dutch, but I can get you off the airport grounds to a legendary Pittsburgh restaurant? :-) <><><><> Julie Lebaillif (did I spell that right? I accidentally deleted your post!) up there on the northern end of I-79, dug out from under 54 inches of snow (yikes!) to post that her hubby, Olivier thinks that MLE is ugly, and she just doesn't understand that. Julie, Julie, Julie. Olivier is FRENCH! If you grew up with national icons of beauty like Catherine Deneuve (who still looks faboo at 40+) you'd probably think MLE looked a little on the, uh, well, "unattractive" side too! (The same excuse, however, cannot be used for your mom, we'll have to work on her. After all, if I can get my mom can go to MLE's concert with me. . . anything's possible!) <><><><> We heard the news that: >MEIN just put out Melissa is going to be on The Tonight Show 19 December. >Mark your calenders.... Which prompted Fumbling Aaron Morrison :-) to query: >She always seems to play the latest single on tv performances -- I wonder if >she'll do NTG again, or if there's gonna be a fourth single? I pray she doesn't do NTG. There should be a fourth single from this album, unfortunately, it should have been out already. I went back and checked, and realized that Island really fumbled on YLS. (As Deb eluded to earlier this week in a wonderful post) The album came out about a year ago, right? And YLS was the first single, which carried us through October, November, and December of '95. Then in mid-January, IWTCO was released as a single. It hit the charts the week of January 15. January 15. The next single, NTG wasn't released for radio air-play, at least, until the end of September, the 24th if I remember well. What were they thinking? There should've been at least one and preferably two more singles put into those long months of summer. ATWTH, while not a favorite of mine, is IMO, a "summer song", and a release of that in May would've been the least that could've been done. <><><><> I too, missed Storytellers, and unlike everything else that VH-1 airs, it doesn't seem to be reappearing anytime soon. May I join the maddening crowds in asking that someone please post if they hear anything about a rebroadcast? (Like I need to ask!) <><><><> Finally, cyberhug to Kiva on the loss of your kitty, Stella. I remember what that pain is like, which is why our household is now pet-free. Okay, back to haunt the (once again sold-out, yippee!) theater a bit more. Until another moment when the director pulls me out of the wings and yells "Go home and get your e-mail" I am outtahere! Tracey Tracey Thacker <>==<>==<>thack22@usaor.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The only people who would suggest that a person's character is no longer important are those who are sorely lacking in character. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:21:05 -0500 From: Rainbow Fish Subject: ani defranco On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Vanessa A. Brown wrote: > > Also, for you New Englanders, according to my local lesbian newsletter, Ani > Defranco is playing Northampton, MA, November 19th. I've never heard anything > from her, but have seen mention of her here many times. She's a"must see", is > that right John Miller? She is also playing at the orpheum on nov 23 and 24th. I got tickets yeah!!!! KK....11th row I guess. Can't wait. -Sharon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:37:39 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Can We Stand One More Bi Comment? You know, this thing has really snowballed! But I'm enjoying the discussion. I think we are all now concluded that (A) some gays hate bis (B) some gays like bis (C) some hets like gays (D) some hets hate gays and....well...this could go on and on and on and on.... Anyway, my own personal experience is that some gays (and I will admit that I *used* to be in this bunch--I have long since seen the error of my ways! ;-)) are *suspicious* of bisexuals and therefore might hate them. The thinking went like this: bis are always gonna be unfaithful in a same-sex relationship, because they're always wondering about what they're missing. OR, a gay person can count on being left by a bisexual if they're involved with one, because the second somebody of the opposite sex attracts the bisexual, they will pursue that other person because society *encourages* heterosexuality and will be supportive of that relationship, not of the same-sex one. Who can "compete" with that? Why did I change my opinion? I got involved with someone who was bisexual (despite being cautioned not to do.) But all y'all know how love is. Yep, my last girlfriend was bisexual. We met in grad school and were together for four years. Then she left me for a man (who was, in fact, a mutual friend....I was stunned and it took quite awhile for me to sort through all kinds of ugly emotions). Anyway, the conclusion to this story is that I ended up realizing that Wendy left me for John because she had fallen for John. Plain and simple. She had no other motivations; there were no other reasons. A few months later, Wendy left John for...Richard! Then she left Richard for....nobody! After a few years off from relationships, Wendy then got together with another woman. They have been together now for about three years. It is just crystal clear to me that Wendy is equally attracted to both sexes . She has no other agendas and is not denying any of her feelings and is not too chicken to 'fess up that she's gay. I don't think any one sex has any more appeal for her over the other. Wendy is just as likely to leave a man as she is a woman. Call it equal opportunity dumping! LOL By the way, I love Wendy dearly and her new girlfriend is a hoot (Deb, Wendy is the person who stuck me on the Metro and got me pointed in the right direction that day I came over to visit you and Tori.) Just another tangled view, Joyce ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:40:09 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Melissa on Radio Hi, this was posted to the board on America Online and I thought you guys might be interested: " FYI for those who get the Mark and Brian radio show (they broadcast to 20 markets) but are on 95.5 KLOS in Los Angeles Melissa will be on TUESDAY, DEC.10, for an interview and most likely to play a few songs. This will be her 3rd or 4th time on Mark and Brian, so it should be a good interview (i.e. all the general basic questions have already been answered and they can talk about other things). Mark and Brian's annual Xmas show is on Dec.6 this year and it would be soooo cool if Melissa showed up. (She played at it in '94) Melissa is friends with the music director Rita Wilde so I may get a wild hair up my butt and call on the air and beg them to try and get Melissa to play since it is during her "mini-break"." That's all, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:20:27 -0800 From: Jeffrey Macko Subject: Have 2 tickets to S.F. Show, but can't use. Anyone? Cow Palace Tue Dec 17th 7:30 Sec 16 Row G Seat 11 and 12 As I'm sure the list would get bogged down with ticket stuff like this, if you are interested, please contact me via email. --Jeffrey jmacko@hooked.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:23:20 -0500 From: Kelley at AOL Subject: tickets Does anyone know if the Memphis show is sold out? Not MEIN tickets but the general admission ones? My girlfriend just had surgery and we didn't think she would be able to make it but she can and I need one more ticket. If it's not sold out, could someone please privately email phone numbers where I could order a general admission ticket to the show? I've given up on getting one more MEIN ticket...I'll settle for just about anything. Thanks in advance... Kelley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:33:26 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: Attachments On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Randy wrote: > Chapel Hill was not sold out and I heard rumors that she almost > cancelled. SEVERAL people around me, on the floor, said that it wasn't very > well advertised. Some, more than one, only found out about the concert 2 days > earlier! Same thing here in Toledo (OH). Her concert was far from sold out. I think that it was from the very POOR advertising campaign. Most people didn't even know about it. My sister didn't even hear the comercial on the Radio till a couple days before the concert. But it made me feel better when the following week Hootie wasn't a lot fuller (a word?). Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:09:32 -0500 From: "Eidel Lisa Consultant (Temp)" Subject: Hi all, again! I was able to find out that those of us who have TCI cable in the northern NJ area will be able to see Melissa on Sesame Street on November 22nd. It airs on Channel 13 at 7 and 11 a.m.. Don't forget to set those VCR's. Lisa E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:47:16 CST From: Elizabeth Burns Subject: Re: Texarse gatherings Shirl asked: So Sue, by chance are you sleeping on the COUCH????? I'm not sure where Sue slept. They got in so freakin' *late* last night...You can rest assured that she did sleep with someone tho'!! This just in...CrabbySue *did* in fact sleep on the couch last night. What's the story there?! And she slept on the couch with Karen. Patti and Raunch slept in the guest room...just so y'all know... The Austin party begins at 3pm today (central time)....we'll be rockin.... liz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:51:44 -0800 From: Linda Slovick Subject: Marcel, Carol, and AJ [NMEC] > >Hi Marcel, > > Hi Carol, Hi gang, We have another source of misunderstanding here, folks. > Thanks for your comments on the A.J. mail. > I'll try to react on your comments in the most honest way I can. For me it's > a subject you can't let go. > > >I'm also a ME Lister. I just wanted to say that you don't have to be so > >hard on A.J. I don't even know him but he was being honest. > > I was honest too. > > >Sure, his cousins are totally wrong, but that's really how people are down > there. > > Is this an excuse for people thinking in a wrong way? > > >It's not that dude's fault, he never said they were right. > > He never said they were wrong, did he? (it's difficult to know what people > think when they don't write it down.....) One other thing AJ didn't write down (probably because it's assumed) is that she is female. Perhaps if you reread her comments about her cousins with that in mind, I think you'll see that the anger there was not directed at you, but at being pretty much cut off from her midwestern relatives and other people she grew up with by virtue of she herself being a lesbian. That and a bitter certainty that she knows their feelings about Melissa because she has first-hand knowledge of their opinions about lesbians, so that contacting them would not be a useful source of information about Melissa's school years, only of further derision. AJ and I haven't discussed this, but I feel pretty sure that is more what was going on here. > Think twice if you write something down on paper (mail) and it's being read > by people you don't know. Speak about everything but BE CAREFULL! And listen to (read) everything, but allow for dialect differences, experience differences, hell, even gender differences! > Tolerance? > > Bye, Marcel Tolerance! I think we all basically agree. I for one have come away with the lesson that it is way too easy for really nice people to start off on the wrong foot and have everybody feel hurt when that was not anybody's intention. Disclaimer: AJ is the love of my life. This may make me biased, but I really tried to allow for that in this posting. Linda Slovick slovick@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:48:38 -0500 From: Eidel Lisa Subject: Hi everyone! First, Allison wanted imagery from YLS. One of my favorite lines is from ATWTH - "I want to roll down the windows and teach you to fly, I want to give you a thrill the kind you can't buy." Next, with all the talk of Duets and who was eyeing who. I'm surprised no one has mentioned how Sophie B. Hawkins was practically throwing herself at Melissa when they sang "Damn, I wish I was your lover". In fact, Melissa looked embarassed and I know I was embarassed for her. Lastly, is there anyone in the northern NJ area with TCI cable? I'm trying to find out what station and when Sesame Street is on. Thank you. Lisa E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:40:28 -0400 From: Magdalena Subject: still the bi thang.... Hi There, Another couple of digests arrived.... DOUG wrote: > All of the bisexuals I know are merely > using the label bi to hide the fact that they are truly > homosexual/lesbian. They don't feel as guilty if they call > themselves bi instead of gay. i believe you. On the other hand, judging by the experiences of several people on the list (as well as several of my other friends), labeling oneself as bi may lead to more trouble than saying "i'm gay." Your gay-but-pretending-to-be-bi friends must have not experienced this kind of hostility, so i guess they've been kinda semi-lucky . Myself, i haven't had any bad coming-out experience with anybody (so i guess i've been tremendously lucky so far!), regardless of their sexual orientation, whether i made it clear that i'm bi or may have sounded like i'm gay (i don't really go from person to person saying, hey, i'm bi! -- i answer questions when they're asked). i have received some friendly warnings, though.... Poohster shared her usual, precious sweetness: > Some days I like to eat clover honey, other > days I like to eat honey from apple blossums. Both are mmmm! mmm! Good! Does > this > make me Bi????? And does it make me any the less sweeter?????? Yes, this makes you bi-honey'al , but as sweet as ever or even sweeter! ;) Aaron Morrison wrote: > Love/Attraction/Sex/Romance/etc. is a weird complex thing -- actually I tend > to think it's all one big mess that never works out right, Ditto. > but that's just me. no, it isn't.... Jenn Lazar spoke: > I say, as long as your true to yourrself, who cares what anyone thinks? > just my opinion A strong and not-so-humble one, but very, very right! (IMNSHO ) Elaine corrected me: > Actually that was Aaron who I was responding to. OOPS! My mistake, i do apologize! (Where were my eyes?! ) Harley returned to the origin of this thread with: > This is where the problem lies - we are divided. Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals > and Trans' people all have their own issues but together we have one > struggle - that of equal rights for ALL. Well said! Cathi wondered (on behalf of a hypothetical anti-bi gay person, i assume) : > And then, if sexuality isn't > static, how does the whole nature vs. choice arguement fit in? Very simply, i think. Take people's moods for example: they are not static, they change all the time and yet are natural, not a matter of choice, and their variety creates a good balance (at least in more-or-less healthy, semi-sane individuals who, i believe, constitute a majority of this planet's population ). There is room for variation in every aspect of life. Back to work now, and looking forward to the next digest. ;) "take care my love my friend" (y'all know who) constantly craving, Mag a.k.a. magda k. /kah/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:57:12 CST From: Elizabeth Burns Subject: texarse party Hi all! Rachel here, just saying for the record that I'm innocent! Of what, you ask? Well, I dunno, but I'm the one who asked who they were sleeping with tonight, not Sue!!!!! So Shirl, get your facts together! (not straight, just to And another thing, I must defend my honor, since nobody around here seemes to think I have anything to defend, or is it that I have no defense, or was that nothing in general? Never mind. Can I have another shot? Who am I sleeping with tonight? wHAT????? OK now, Patti here....I slept with Rachel last night and it was one ordeal, lemme tell ya! I'll never tell! Shots....who said "shots"?????? SueD once again at another list gathering....someone has to keep things 'straight' around here (hehehe) Anyway, here we go with the first toast of the day, mean people suck (again and still). Tequila, snakebite,and kahlua.... hmmmm, already an eclectic mix! Off we go, a group grope, errr, toast to start things off on the right foot! Yes Shirl, I did sleep on the couch last night, but who was that woman next to me....some Lubbockian or other (hehehe). And so goes round 1.... More later....y'all can look forward to it!! Oh wait...Raunch came up with the motto for the weekend.... lick it slam it suck it then do your shot ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:26:55 -0500 From: Michelle Subject: More Concert Pictures/Newsweek Interview Hi all -- Delurking for just a second to let everyone know I've got more concert pictures (from Columbus and Cincinnati) up on my web site. http://www.erinet.com/michelle/melissa.htm Also, if there's anyone who couldn't find the November 4th issue of Newsweek, I transcribed the interview so everyone could read it. (All typos are mine.) I've done a little housekeeping/rearranging on my web pages. So if anyone has a link to my old concert pictures page, that URL will take you to my new Melissa page. From there, you'll see several links to concert pictures. Back to lurking . . . Michelle K. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= michelle@erinet.com http://www.erinet.com/michelle "The only thing that stays the same is change." -- MLE =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:46:46 -0500 From: Aaron Morrison Subject: babble on... Wolfie wrote: >anyway, i see i babble. Blatero ergo sum. :) Marcy wrote: >OK, this topic has gone on so long I 'm gonna put my 2 cents in. I think >sexuality is a spectrum, some people are 100% gay, some are 100% >straight (so to speak), and there's a whole range of in between. Like a >rainbow. Yeah! Actually, it's probably even more complicated than that, but that's a pretty good comparison. Wasn't the rainbow flag chosen as the gay flag cause it represnts diversity? Kinda ironic then that some people proudly display it, then seem very opposed to any diversity beyond gay/straight. >I think YLS is her best cd. I love the others, too, but this one seems >more positive. I like the feelings provoked by the sadness and anger in >the previous cd.s, but...I dunno, sometimes it's time to buy mangos and >go to heaven. I tend to prefer sad angry songs myself. (yes, I know, I *really* ought to see a psychiatrist! ;)) Not that I don't like YLS, but I think it's my least favorite MLE album. >In think there's so much poetry in the YLS cd. I dunno, YLS seems more narrative to me -- I think her earlier albums are the most poetic. Elaine wrote: >Magdalena wrote: > >>> Carol and then Elaine again: >> >> with bisexuals becoming more vocal and visible, people will >> I like this interpretation! > >Actually that was Aaron who I was responding to. No, I changed my name to Carol. ;) j/k >Next time ask a Canadian friend to get it for you, silly boy. :-) Who could you be referring to? :) Not that I have enough money to buy *anything* at the moment... >>> Well, labels can be very useful. > >Keeps you from losing your mittens in the winter...Oops, that's name >tags. Sorry. LOL! Aaron :) "The night is my companion and solitude my guide Would I spend forever here and not be satisfied?" --Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:57:09 EST From: Elmo loves you Subject: Jewel/MLE/Bruce Randy wrote: " Remember how Melissa was overwhelmed by Bruce in the MTV Unplugged video? They had to do the take twice because Melissa was busy staring at Bruce and messed up some lines! Being with one's idols does strange things to one's psyche!" I never knew that! I'd be doing the same thing if I were playing with either of them. Both Melissa and Bruce are among my all-time favorite artists. Anyway, that's how I interpreted the Jewel/Melissa Duets performance. Jewel just looked so awed and honored to be playing with her; I thought it was sweet. Donna PS - I got a kick out of the mega-flirting going on during the Sophie/Melissa duet! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:20:26 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Enjoy :) Evening Gang! Tis but a moment in time until the week-end comes a calling. "Sniff" "Sniff" Hmmmmmmm! It smells like another cold fall evening. The smoke from the chimney swirls about and falls towards the ground. As grandpa used to say, a change in the weather is a comin'. This ole bear feels like it is time to celebrate the crops from the feilds being harvested and as the farmers stop their corn pickers and watch as the last drop of grain falls into their silos they know that they have worked the land and the callouses upon their hands no longer ache and crack for the season is over and they have fed their livestock and put bread upon our tables once again. Pooh gets up from the log from which she was sitting and looks about the sky once again and sighs contently knowing that neither did the farmer know of her presence nor of her love of more than one kind of honey :) He did not know if a black man or a red man or a yellow man were to eat his bread and reap the benefits of his toils nor did he care. He simply knew that we had to be fed. A Pooh eats honey and others tofu. And then there are those that eat honey on their tofu I bet. And you know what, I bet I wouldn't care if they mixed em up and I bet if I asked, they would let me try just a little smackeral to see what they tasted like together. And I bet the smoke would still be swirling outta that chimney and the air would still be cold and the farmer, well he would just be "Thankful" that his day is done and that we are not hungry any longer. And like grandpa used to say: "A change is a gonna come!" "Good-night" "Rest Well" "Hug Someone And Have A Good Week-end" Sincerely, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:32:46 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Stuff "Vanessa A. Brown" wrote: >I know I'm a bit behind in my thinking (and posting)...I enjoyed the piece on >Storytellers where she explained a few things about No Souvineers. The buffalo >nickel necklace (which is *all* she would say) brought up some very fun imagery >for me in the line "the way you make the buffalo roam"... You know, I heard that story years ago on Prodigy, and I never believed it, so I was especially amused to hear her say that! =-=-=<>=-=-= edgy wrote: >There I said it. Someone find me something >along the lines of: > >* I can feel the steel of the red hot truth >* The spear in your side is me OR the child who walked before she crawled >* I thought I saw you clutching your sin >* The paint's still wet in your do it by number dreams >* Hello hello, this is Romeo, calling from a jackpot telephone How about: "I've got this whiskey to take care of my lips/ I've got these long cool steel strings/ at my fingertips..." Oops, wrong album. :) Seriously, RS4/16 is one of my very favorite MLE songs, and I thought of those lines immediately when you posed the question. RS4/16 has the most incredible imagery throughout... *great* song. =-=-=<>=-=-= DOUG wrote: >All of the bisexuals I know are merely >using the label bi to hide the fact that they are truly >homosexual/lesbian. According to you or to them? If they told you they're really gay, they're not really hiding. If they didn't, how have you determined that they're really gay? >They don't feel as guilty if they call >themselves bi instead of gay. This is fine with me...I mean who am I >to judge? I, personally, used to do the same thing... Many gays, including me, have called themselves bisexual at one point or another, for whatever reason. That doesn't mean that bisexuality doesn't exist, which is what I hear too many people suggest. =-=-=<>=-=-= Gwen Shinko wrote: >I thought her makeup on the Story Teller's program was way too heavy. Her >whole face looked like it had been airbrushed with pink blush and >eyeshadow. And that lipstick! Way too red! >IMHO, if someone is going to use cosmetics, they should be >applied to enhance the person's natural looks, not distract from them. Right on! Oh, and for the person who's thinking about going to see Ani... RUN, DON'T WALK! :) I'm seeing her on Sunday, can't wait! And tomorrow, I get to buy tickets to see Sarah McLachlan next month! -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-11 18:18 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I find people in general sexually attractive... but then I find trees sexually attractive too." - Sarah McLachlan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:26:52 CST From: Elizabeth Burns Subject: Austin Round 2 Liz here....Round 2 isn't really appropriate for some of us. THe more seasoned drinkers (AKA Rachel and Patti) are on round 8 or 9 already. SOme of us are trying to show a bit more control. :) I protest!...Patti here...I have no earthly idea what Liz is talking about! We're having a blast....Mich's Fabulous Fajitas (tm)...and lots of good company ....and, well, as *few* shots here & there....mostly toasts as new folks arrive. We've managed to get a few releases signed (Re: photos), but there may be a few who protesteth...we shall see, I guess. Let's see...who's here...all thus far but also now Tonya & Ola, Janis & Claudia, Jen & Zach Chalmers, Melanie Coulson and Tamara, Theresa & Kelley, and then of course, Janis & Claudia's dog Lily. OK, everybody's barking, so I'll sign off now and no longer hog the laptop... Seein' Melissa toNIGHT!!!! Barking? Are you insinuating something about my appearance, or just my actions? Rachel here, just to say that these people are really tame. I mean TAME, man. Shots, what shots...we are just whetting our whistles. (TRAIN, where is that Zorro woman. Rach, get out there, we need someone as a stand in!) The crowd is really getting into the spirit of things, the noise level is rising appropritely...ahhhhh, the sweet sensation of anticipation! Gotta move on, this room is getting way too warm what with the thoughts swimming through my addled mind. How many hours left until heaven? (oops, forgot to say SueD here, didn't want to be confused with any other person from the LIST) 2 1/2 hours till showtime.... Yeehaw!!! ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 14 Nov 1996 to 15 Nov 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sat Nov 16 00:00:56 1996 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:00:12 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 15 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:33:23 CST From: Elizabeth Burns Subject: Austin Round 2 add-on Shirl, you'd be proud of us we continue to celebrate the "Mean People Suck" toasts.... SUe made me log back on to tell y'all that.... until next time.... oh....Chuck and ANgela just showed up. Another oh, CrabbySue said yes, she had people sign the release forms... (TRAIN!!!!---where's alex?!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:08:36 GMT From: Beth Durff Subject: Pardon the interruption... Sorry everyone... Randy!!! I can't find your email address. I am *seriously* considering MEMPHIS!! What are your thoughts on leaving Thursday pm? Problem for you to get off work or what? If I have to drive 950 miles, I'm not waiting till Friday night to do it.... Please email me privately and I'll stop in my office and check mail over the weekend. Pardon the interruption... Now back to our regularly scheduled programming... Oops. BTW, regarding the sold-out thread... the two shows I went to were no where near sold out. 6,000 or so at Hershey (according to the local paper afterwards) - which holds about 9,000 to begin with. I never dreamed Melissa would play a venue that is (in my estimation) that small. I would guess about 8 or 9,000 at Nissan Pavillion - not near filled - people with gen. admission tickets were coming off the lawn and moving down into some of the empty reserved sections. Have a good weekend everyone. Hey Houstonians - only 2 more days? You lucky *babes*... Hi to Jill, Laurel, Ang, Jonti, and Terri - wish I was going with ya !!! Have a good time !!! Beth (the Honda driving chic magnet who may soon be headed for Beale Street) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:20:28 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: Almost the weekend Hi Everyone, Well, it's almost the weekend for me, because I'm about to leave work. I would like to address some things I read on the list though. First of all, I think I most agree with Jen Lazar when she wrote, "I say, as long as your true to yourrself, who cares what anyone thinks?" Thats' right. That's exactly how I feel, and I feel like it's the bottom line for me. And now, I never saw Sophie and Melissa sing. But from what I've been reading it sounds like hoot to watch. There was something I wanted to write to Joyce, but I forgot now and I already erased the digest. Oh well, we'll catch up later. Please everyone have a great weekend. Carol ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:30:13 EST From: "Sue Morzajew, McGill University" Subject: Anyone want to design a logo... Hi All, Anyone want to design a logo for this list? I ask because I am seriously consider taking on the project of list t-shirts. But the first step is a logo. Any ideas or suggestions? A suggestion: if we want to discuss this on the list, let's use this in the subject line: MELTS - insert topic here I ask this because if I do take this project on, I want to be able to sort through my mail in order to partipate in the discussion and acknowledge your comments regarding these potential shirts. Does that sound fair? I await your comments, Sue PS: Yes, Joyce I'm crazy, I know! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:46:23 GMT From: Elaine Naiman Subject: ticket sales or lack thereof Kate Blackmon asked: >> Whoa, Elaine, doesn't everyone have their mittens attached through >> their sleeves with a piece of string? Only me? How embarrassing. No, not just you. But most of the others who do are *slightly* younger than you. Randy wrote: >> I'm ging to attribute it to the Southern Thing and the high prices, I'd say the high prices and the large venues. I don't think any of the arena shows sold out. Tickets for the Canadian dates earlier this year were cheaper (but still on the high side) than the US dates and I don't think they sold out either...Possibly the tour was planned when Island intended to release a single during the early part of it thus thinking there'd be more demand for tickets. Tracey wrote: >> but I can get you off the airport grounds to a legendary Pittsburgh >> restaurant? :-) As long as you get me back in time to catch the connecting flight. >> I pray she doesn't do NTG. People almost always play their current single. Why? Because that's what they're promoting. And in some cases, that's what the show requires. Very few artists have the clout to do songs of their choice. Aaron wrote: >> Who could you be referring to? :) Not that I have enough money to >> buy *anything* at the moment... Since the recent additions to my family, neither do I. ;-) Elaine -- "The alternative to truth is hypocrisy/If you want to choose the latter you won't never be free" - Shawn Phillips http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~cs847/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:22:18 -0500 From: GRIFF1234@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Jewell and Melissa If anyone looks really closely at the tape of the VH1 duets special, you can see Melissa looking Jewell up and down from behind. She does it while the whole group is singing that final Joan Armatrading song Love and Affection. When Jewel sings her little solo, Melissa goes behind her while playing her guitar and looks her over. Then she has this sly little smile on her face. You have to watch very carefully, but see for yourself, she definitely checks Jewell out, and obviously likes what she sees!! So, I think it is safe to assume that the admiration is mutual....;-) Jill Sue L. from Moline if you are still out there e-mail me. I've been trying to get a hold of you for a long time, but my e-mail always gets returned. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:48:20 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: texarse party Hey Sue D. Are you a professional partier? Is that what that notepad was for, notes for the book that you are writing..."Sue D.'s Professional Party the Melissa Etheridge Listserve's way" of course, in 5 easy lessons! Have Fun!! Francie ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 15 Nov 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sun Nov 17 00:00:47 1996 Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:00:08 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 15 Nov 1996 to 16 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:29:20 -0500 From: Sooz911@AOL.COM Subject: counting days, bis, Texas etc Oh the whole bi thread, there are undoubtedly people who use that as a title because they can't or won't deal with who they really are. But I also feel there are people out there who are definitely bi & happy to be that way. Who am I to say how someone else should be? I guess I don't understand all the conflict. Unless I'm seeing someone, I don't feel I have much to say about this. And even if I am seeing them, if they are in a monogamous relationship with me that's what I'm concerned about. Sue D & all you others going crazy in Texas...I hope you are having a blast. Only 28 days to the Tacoma show. Yes...I'm keeping track on the calendar now. To everyone I owe private e-mail to, I'm sorry I'm so behind. I'm putting in 66 hours this week at work, plus attending a mandatory 10 hour class! I'm on lunch break from that right now in fact. I promise that once I get a chance to catch up on some sleep, I'll wade through all my mail. Susan-who on top of everything else, started doing a weight-lifting program & can hardly move any part of her body.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 09:54:18 -0500 From: Karrie Bowen Subject: Soldout venues...... Hey guys! Beth posted "6000 or so at Hershey (according to the local paper afterwards) - which holds about 9000 to begin with. I never dreamed that Melissa would play a venue that is (in my estimation) that small..." Back in the good old days, ya know, pre-VH1 and MTV and mall-haired rug rats and commercialized music, that was all Melissa ever played. She played old theatres and gymnasiums on college campuses, and little tiny venues that seated, at the most, 5000. She showed up in little dive bars the night before a show and played and bullshitted with her fans, and she was there, and she was just like one of us, and she was real.....Now, in these huge venues, these places that just make yuou one of the masses, where you are up in Row RRR seat 750, up so high that you are shaking hands with GOD, you don't get that intimacy and that personal feel anymore. Hell, when I just saw her in Binghamton NY in August (tiny venue, seats about 5000), we went backstage and there she was, not more than 10 feet away from me and my friends, and the minute she and the 27 bodyguards around her saw us, they herded her away into the hallway. She did manage a wave hello and a smile, but I suddenly realized that gone forever are the days when Melissa would play "A Lot Like You", then step down off the platform, come over, and have a beer with you and tell you, "Man, I hit that cord wrong" or "That song was about so and so.." I would rather Melissa play a small venue. I would rather she sell 10,000 copies of a fantastic album than 10 million copies of a piece of commercialized shit that a bunch of fickle 14 year old would buy. I would rather she enjoy moderate success and play at the gymnasium here at my college than play Madison Square Garden to a half-sold out crowd. Everyone here would buy the tickets. I guess what I am trying to say is that I never dreamed Melissa would ever NOT play a venue that small, because that is where the heart and the soul of her music lies...in truth, in passion, and in intimacy, and I think you can only get that in smaller venues. Peace and KiP- Karrie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 10:29:05 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: Austin Round 2 add-on Soooo PROUD of all of you down south there! Keep the toasts a pouring. How are the releases going(Web pics)? On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Elizabeth Burns wrote: > Shirl, you'd be proud of us we continue to celebrate the "Mean People > Suck" toasts.... > > SUe made me log back on to tell y'all that.... Miss you Sue. Patty and I are looking forward to catching up with you in San Fran over Christmas. The spurs are awesome! Have to know if there is any Sam Adams in the area? If not please do a shot in his honor, like you need a reason to do a shot. :] Party on my friends! Shirl & Patty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:33:40 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: Soldout venues...... Beth posted: > "6000 or so at Hershey (according to the local paper afterwards) - which holds > about 9000 to begin with. I never dreamed that Melissa would play a venue > that is (in my estimation) that small..." Karrie said: > I guess what I am trying to say is that I never dreamed Melissa would ever > NOT play a venue that small, because that is where the heart and the soul of > her music lies...in truth, in passion, and in intimacy, and I think you can > only get that in smaller venues. I think what Beth meant was "at this point in her career". The old days, the wonderful intimate days that Karrie is referring to are just sweet memories for most of us, unless you're lucky enough to see her at a taping, or special event. Just my opinion. -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:05:05 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: ticket sales or lack thereof At the new Corestates Center In Philadelphia, the floor and first level was sold out. But the second level looked very empty!! They had the show there because it was the 2nd show ever there of course. But it would of been nicer if they had it at the Blockbuster/Sony Entertainment Centre (known as the E-Centre) across the Ben Franklin Bridge in Camcen, NJ...right on the water...Deleware River with the city skyline (Philly) and a beautiful sunset. The E-Centre hold more than the Corestates Center, 25,000 to the 21,000 of the arena. But most of that is lawn seating. In '94, Melissa played and sold out the Mann Music Center (16,000) and in '95, she played the Spectrum (next door to the new arena and still used for concerts and minor leauge hockey...The Phamtoms) and just about sold out 18,700 seats. I really don't know! I rather see Melissa at an outdoor venue than indoor in the summer. Thanks for reading! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:55:29 -0500 From: David Johnson Subject: Re: Melissa books? Hi everyone. Cindy Hoeflak wrote: > Could anyone please tell me whether Melissa has published a biography or if > there are any books about the lovely Melissa. As of right now, there are none. However. before spring there will be two. Chris Nickson, author of many celeberty books about people such as of Keanu Reeves, Mariah Carey, Soundgarden, Brad Pitt, and many others this year alone, will be coming out with "Melissa Etheridge : An Unauthorized Biography". We don't know any details about this book yet. Many people on this list do know about the biography by this list's very own Joyce Luck which will be coming out early next year and published by ECW PRESS. Joyce's book will be a richly illustrated and well researched biography of MLE. I'm sure you'll hear more about it within the next couple of months. Take care everyone. David Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:38:40 -0500 From: JENNIFER SASS Subject: Re: Melissa books? On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, David Johnson wrote: > > As of right now, there are none. However. before spring there will be > two. Chris Nickson, author of many celeberty books about people such as > of Keanu Reeves, Mariah Carey, Soundgarden, Brad Pitt, and many others > this year alone, will be coming out with "Melissa Etheridge : An > Unauthorized Biography". We don't know any details about this book yet. The ISBN # for this book is 0-312-1571-3 or 0-312-15171-3 I wrote it down twice and each time it came up differently (sorry!) These came out of the Border's Inc. Computer System. I will check for the titles tonight. Also there was a book by Jeann DeLisa, but it isn't on the Border's system, but it is in print. Sorry if this doesn't make much sense, but i will get all the info straight and repost it tomorrow. Love, Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:53:23 -0600 From: "Cindy S. Hughey" Subject: Re: tickets Kelly, Tickets for the Memphsis show should still be available.. I just called to order mine on the Nov 12. Had no problem geeting it. Hope you have fun. I know I will. Cindy S. Hughey a.k.a SHAKAY hugheyc@email.uah.edu U of Alabama Huntsville ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:08:39 -0800 From: Randy Subject: NMEC: Our guys in Bosnia need mail Most of you know my son is in Bosnia, and will be over Christmas. It's a long way from home for all our service people, so if you would like to send a card to my 'brat' AND/OR his buddies, please e-mail me privately and I will send you his address. You don't have to write anything, and don't expect an answer, just a "HI". Thanks in advance. -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:28:12 -0500 From: Diane Boccadoro Subject: Sad Songs Say So Much Aaron wrote: >I tend to prefer sad angry songs myself. (yes, I know, I >*really* ought to see a psychiatrist! ;)) I thought I was the only one! Nothing like getting good and angry/depressed/vengeful to an old MLE song. I think that's actually better therapy than a psychiatrist could provide -- as long as you think twice before taking any action. Don't want anybody to end up in jail or out on the ledge on the 20th floor! Diane B. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:42:46 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: No Subject Lisa, I was just getting ready to write the exact same thing. I was actually embarassed for "Sophie B. TREBLE Hawkins" as MLE introduced her. Anyways, I though she made MLE uncomfortable as heck, with all of that kneeling stuff and getting right into her face. MLE had trouble keeping eye contact with her. As far as Joan and Jewel go, I though MLE had great chemistry with both of them, but for different reasons. Joan was on more of an even level with MLE and they were on like this "cool" kinda wave length. Jewel and MLE on the other hand were kind of like a "senior" and a "junior" sort of thing. I thought Jewel came off as being just plain thrilled to be there with MLE. And I think Jewel has a very sultry, sexy voice. Had to put my piece in, Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:52:23 -0500 From: Sasha Friedman Subject: NMEC- Ani Difranco and Sarah M Hi everyone... I was just wondering if anyone in the DC area was going to see Ani on Sun..Cause it would be great to finally meet some people, and I am so excited cause today I got tix to see Sarah M. at the 9:30 club for the HFS nutcracker... Anyone going to that ???? Peace Sasha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:20:42 -0500 From: Sasha Friedman Subject: Duets I also thought that Melissa looked a little uncomfortable with Sophie B hawkins, and right before they sing when ME introduces the song she just says "Damn I wish I was your lover" and Sophie B Hawkins replies "Thank you" and the ME says "Oh you know that 's not what I mean" or something very similar to that and sort of bends over with what appears to be embarassment . Just my $.02 Sasha ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 15 Nov 1996 to 16 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Mon Nov 18 00:00:46 1996 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 00:00:07 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 16 Nov 1996 to 17 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 00:28:09 -0500 From: Jan Subject: Re: venues Karrie wrote: > Back in the good old days, ya know, pre-VH1 and MTV and mall-haired rug rats > and commercialized music, that was all Melissa ever played. Perhaps in the United States but not in other countries. She played to 30,000 at a festival near Toronto in 1989. Shows in Montreal were played to well over 5000. And these were as a headliner not an opening act. And as an opening act in the US (when she was already headlining in Canada), quite likely she played larger venues (how many people showed up for her set I don't know). > I would rather Melissa play a small venue. I would rather she sell > 10,000 copies of a fantastic album Somebody who sold that poorly on a major label wouldn't have a recording contract for very long. Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:03:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: Shows after Dec.9th, who goes ? Hi there, as some of you know I have got my plans to come to the shows after Dec. 9th ( probably except Phoenix). Now I had an idea on something. For this I need to know who comes to which show after Dec. 9th. You could also tell me to how many passionate ME-fans, who are not on this list (don't want to count anyone twice) and who also go to the show you go to, you have contact to. What I need in the end is the amount of the people we can reach with a massage (or a cute plan) for EACH of the following shows: Las Vegas - Spokane - Tacoma - Portland - San Fran. - Sacramento - San Diego - LA (THE FINAL) I am not right sure in what it will be in the end. But for sure it shall surprise Melissa very much. I listened yesterday to a recording of the AHOY -Show in Rotterdam (Holland) this Feb. and it reminded me so much: It was the show where Melissa brought her video-camera to proof back home how this crowd is.Finally I got the camera to film her, the band and the crowd during they played "Must be crazy"... Way out that show !!!!!!!!!!!! The best one I have ever seen and it was such a great thing to get a recording of this. Melissa said to the crowd: "You are to much !!!" or "You are the high point of our lives" or "It never feels right until we play Holland" Imagine: 20.000 hands clapping to the rhythm of "I want to come over" for the hole song and not just for 2 minutes of it. Or a few thousand starting to sing "Similar features" right in the moment the band starts the song and they made Melissa listening to them and she didn't start to sing until the 2nd verse. The same happened when the band started "Change" or when she started with "Occasionally". And you might know the story about all these lighters flipped on/off to the rhythm of the music (mainly on "Like the way"). So great: huge, dark venue and then every second a few thousand lighters being lightened. I would say it is not possible to get something like this elsewhere but in Holland. - Provocation!!! ;) - So lets try to get close to that !!! It doesn't work just with spontaneous ideas. In Holland it took them quite a few shows to form this. And I would say if we have 50 - 150 people at one show who know of the ideas, it will be lots of fun for us and if we are really good even more fun for Melissa. I thought e.g. about: -Getting a few hundred balloons with the ME-sign(or something else) printed on them and let them all fly in the same minute. -Or we all bring whistles with us and some more for other concert-visitors and we whistle to the rhythm of one (or two) song(s). -We all have same looking signs. And only all together make a sense. -The cigarett-lighters. -Everyone brings confetti. -Make Melissa listen to one of her songs the crowd sings. We could copy the lyrics a few hundred times and hand them to others and let everyone know when we start to sing. (How well known is the "greengras-song" in the US ? It would be cool to sing that children song. "... and the green grass grew all around all around and ...) What ever !!! Together we will have many ideas !!! And then we party !!! My dream is to make especially the LA-show very special. We should make it hard for her to go into her break. I hope you get my point and I am happy for comments on this and suggestions. SO PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHO COMES TO WHICH SHOW and who wants to help on this. Bye Tim who longs for IT !!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:11:31 -0500 From: Karrie Bowen Subject: sesame street Hey everyone! Does anyone know what day Missy Lou is going to be on Sesame Street this week? Thanks! KiP- Karrie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:33:19 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: Shows after Dec.9th, who goes ? Tim Dunker wrote: > What ever !!! Together we will have many ideas !!! And then we party !!! > My dream is to make especially the LA-show very special. We should make it > hard for her to go into her break. YES! I think it is a wonderful idea, and that you should plan it for the last show, in LA! Make it memorable for her too! good luck and keep us updated. -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:39:43 -0600 From: Janis Delmonte Subject: Austin/Dallas Concerts Wow! Well I am suffering withdrawal pangs now after seeing Melissa Friday in Austin and last night in Dallas. Two solid days of partying and music.... Melissa seemed really relaxed in Austin and had lots of fun with the crowd. At the venue instead of selling beer they sell sno cones and cotton candy (?) The entire band had fun with a blue sno cone on the small stage, and they were not hesitant to show us their lovely blue tongues.. Melissa had some goofy faces for closeup on the screens. :P BTW, Melissa informed us that the venue, The Frank Erwin Center at UT Austin, is where Julie's graduation was held. The Dallas day was one event/emergency after another, but the concert was also great. As she was doing her lead in to NTG ("I grew up in Leavenworth Kansas..") someone up front held a book up to her. She looked down and said "Yeah, I know what it is, it's my high school yearbook." and laughed. Then, saying that she was in a good mood tonigt she took the book, which was already opened to her picture, and held it for the camera so that on the screens she pointed out her picture. That got a good laugh. Then she read the notes, select chorus, etc.. , but of course when she said "thespians" there was a huge laugh/roar. She took the pen and sighned the book. Then, not remembering where she had been in the intro to the song she just started up NTG. Fashion report: The spandex bell bottoms, black T-shirt and the denim overshirt. A differnt denim shirt each night. No Doc Martins... cowboy boots each night. 2 different pair I believe and I *was* close enough to tell. Especially at the small stage. Almost got a hand touch at the end of the Dallas show, just missed by a few inches! MEIN seats for Austin were great. There was a large group of us all in the 6th, 7th and eighth rows. Lots of purple bowling shirts. MEIN seats for Dallas were about the same as my Ticketmaster ones. About 20 rows back. Here I need to have a big WAVE HELLO to all the MEListers I got to meet and see again this weekend. Diane Brundige and Karen, Dan Cohen (all of whom will be seeing Melissa again tomorrow in Houston!), Liz, Michelle (non-lister but Fajita cook extraordinaire) Sue D., aRauncha, Jen "Get the hell out of my way" Chalmers and her brother Zach, Patti, Melanie Coulson, Tamara, Teresa (sp?) and her partner from Port Lavaca (sp?), Karen. Renee Sweeney, we missed you at the Pizza Party! And probably others who I am sorry if I left out. The MEIN Tour package as well as most of the MElisters at the Dallas show went out to the "The Ridge" after, a local bar. Did you guys see Melissa there?????? Oh yeah, for any Chuck Norris fans out there, my friend saw Chuck at the Dallas concert. She went up and talked to him and he gave her a hug. She was in heaven. (To each her own!) Well, that's it (that's plenty!) for now. It was quite a weekend. I just wish there were more like it coming up... Oh well, we now return to our regularly scheduled life....... See Ya, Janis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:25:25 -0500 From: Vivian Choh Subject: Sirtis listens to Etheridge Just saw an advertisement on Much Music for interviews with the Star Trek:TNG crew and Terry David Mulligan that will be showing up on Thursday this week. Sorry, I didn't catch the time. The ad showed clips of the actors, and I'm guessing that the question was "Who are some of the artists that (or Who do) you listen to?": P. Stewart: "Crash Test Dummies" M. Sirtis: "I listen to a lot of Melissa Etheridge" (!!!) G. McFadden: "David Bowie" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Vivian Choh "I'm all that I claim to be. I simply have not bi189@torfree.net claimed all that I am." vchoh@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca - M. Lackey, "Oathbreakers" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 10:34:31 -0800 From: edgy Subject: ouch! ticket prices. $220 for 4 tix in the middle of the universe for the LA Sports Arena show. But it *is* the last one for a long time. For that price, I'm definately expecting Ellen to show up. Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:41:55 GMT From: Beth Durff Subject: Venues I wrote: >"6000 or so at Hershey (according to the local paper afterwards) - which holds >about 9000 to begin with. I never dreamed that Melissa would play a venue >that is (in my estimation) that small..." and Karrie replied: >I guess what I am trying to say is that I never dreamed Melissa would ever >NOT play a venue that small, because that is where the heart and the soul of >her music lies...in truth, in passion, and in intimacy, and I think you can >only get that in smaller venues. I'm sure that we would all like to see her in the smaller venues, but I think those days are long gone. Once Melissa hit it "big", I think you had to more or less expect that would happen - like it or not. I guess I take for granted that I will be among the "masses" at a Melissa concert now - and therefore, I am a bit surprised that some of the places haven't been more highly attended. Beth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 14:38:43 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: Sirtis listens to Etheridge Vivian Choh said of an ad on Much Music: >>The ad showed clips of the actors, and I'm guessing that the question was "Who are some of the artists that (or Who do) you listen to?":<< And M. Sirtis said: >>"I listen to a lot of Melissa Etheridge" (!!!)<< It must be that empathic thing Troi's got going. Feelings are so very important to her, and that's what Melissa's music is all about, eh? Joyce ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 15:15:45 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Austin/Dallas Concerts Janis....great report from the road on the concerts!!! I am glad everyone had a FAB time!!! Tell Sue D. to GET RID OF THAT NOTEBOOK!!! Francie PS...How do I GET a purple bowling shirt???? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 13:21:43 -0800 From: Mike Bulger Subject: Cursed arena shows and what could have been. >Back in the good old days, ya know, pre-VH1 and MTV and mall-haired rug rats >and commercialized music, that was all Melissa ever played. She played >old theatres and gymnasiums on college campuses, and little tiny venues that >seated, at the most, 5000. Opinions on this topic seem to range from unrealistic indignation (as in "How dare she get so popular...the huddled masses couldn't possibly understand her the way we do!") to enlightened tolerance ("It had to happen sometime...") What I haven't heard yet is how unnecessary the whole arena trip has been. Back on the YIA tour, I saw MLE play the Open Air Theatre on the campus of San Diego State University, which is not arena-sized but seats a fair number of people. Even at the height of YIA's popularity, the place was only half full. Now, San Diego is hardly a haven for music lovers, and has perhaps the laziest, most boring audiences in the U.S. (though I can't be sure, not having seen concerts everywhere), but several postings to this list have indicated that MLE isn't packing them in any better in the venues of the current tour. I wonder who is being served by the choice of the Tacoma Dome here in Seattle for her Northwest stop? I'm as diehard a fan of live MLE as there may be, but I won't be going, if only because I've seen too many arena shows at this point to waste my money on another (aside: in all fairness, certain artists--such as Peter Gabriel--put on a visual display that can make an arena show worthwhile, while others--think Guns 'n Roses--are loud enough to overcome the worst acoustic deficiencies of such a venue, but if I wish to see an artist play and sing music, and nothing else, I avoid arenas entirely). It is highly doubtful that the Dome will not exhibit huge sections of empty seats on the night she plays there. The fans that do show up will be relatively distant from the stage and subjected to substandard acoustics. If the demand for an arena show doesn't exist, why play one? I try, not always successfully, to avoid giving in to the sort of possessiveness that might lead me to publicly lament being part of a massive throng, instead of an intimate circle. But it would seem, especially given the stalling sales of YLS, that the throng just ain't that massive after all. Even MLE, in the latest interview I was able to read (thanks to someone on this list, my apologies for not remembering the name), has publicly admitted that the pinnacle of public awareness she reached with YIA is one she will probably never reach again (much as Springsteen is perfectly aware that nothing like BitUSA will happen to him again, either). This doesn't mean I expect to meet MLE in a bar the evening before a show, or to rub elbows with her afterward. It does mean that, like others who expressed as much on this list, I do believe that the next tour (whenever it happens) will take place in smaller theatres with lower ticket prices. On another note, did anyone else notice how VH-1 and MTV each stood up on their hind legs and barked like a dog for Michael Jackson with each of the latest tabloid-style developments in his tabloid life? We were treated to yet more runs through all the heavily financed but creatively bereft MJ videos on both stations, proving conclusively that the marketers at Sony know that where actual music (i.e. "History") fails to generate any excitement, fanciful soap-opera personal b.s. will. Poor MJ's kid will forever live with the question of whether or not his conception was merely a business decision. It leads me to the question, since I don't watch these stations continuously, of whether or not a similar tribute was paid to the announcement of MLE's impending co-motherhood. While the reasons for it may have been purer than those for the Jackson child (though I have no way of knowing this for certain), the "Cypheridge" baby (sounds like a TV sci-fi movie) has even more tabloid value, given the degradation to which modern media subjects serious social developments, such as homosexual parenting. I'll go out on a limb and say the answer is no, that MLE's child-to-be merited a music news feature and nothing more; that tabloid news quality doesn't dictate what plays on the video channels, but money does. What a lost opportunity. Island Records should be ashamed--a little cash distributed, and we could have been treated to a full day of solid video MLE! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:13:20 GMT+1000 From: Lou-Lou Subject: Catherine Deneuve Ahhh one of my favourite subjects, Catherine Deneuve. Tracey Thacker said > If you grew up with national icons > of beauty like Catherine Deneuve (who still looks faboo at 40+) Well she's 50+, 53 to be exact, and looks absolutely gorgeous, but that's not the reason I like her (yeah right), she is very talented, ummmm and she speaks french. Lou ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:17:04 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: Jewel/MLE/Bruce Donna said: > PS - I got a kick out of the mega-flirting going on during the Sophie/Melissa > duet! Out of all this talk about all the flirtation of during the duets, I didn't notice any of it except for with Sophie. I thought it looked like Sophie was trying to get ME's attention and do this "gazing into each others eyes" bit but ME just stuck to the song. I thought it seemed kinda awkward. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 18:30:50 -0600 From: Patti Fink Subject: Austin afterglow and Dallas reactions SueD here: I am typing for Patti since she lost her voice and can't type. We had a great time down at Liz' pre-Austin gathering. MEIN treated most of us very well there, sixth or eigth row seats. Little did we know that Patti was a MLE virgin and Austin was her first concert with MLE. Great way to be broken in! I guess you could call it beginner's luck, either that or Patti really is too cute for her own good! After dashing to the rear stage to be up close and personal, Patti was rewarded with Melissa's personal (yup, the one held in those rocking little hands) pick from the rear stage set. Patti, want to re-enact that pass off again? Patt here...I ost my oice Satur ay mor ing....tha ks, Su , for t ping for me.... Poor thing, what a way to lose that MLE concert virginity....screaming your head off. (Hmmm, that would apply to many of us at the concert) Anyway, suffice it to say that we were sorry to hit the road for Dallas only because that meant leaving behind the wild times in Austin. Of course, we travelled at launch velocity from Austin to Dallas in a heat seaking missile, I think we set a new land speed record. Whats that Patti, stop croaking in my ear and speak up. Oh, Raunch just woke up again...that girl can sleep anywhere! (Except when pneumatic drills are going off next to her ear...I think Patti is being dissed here.) We had a lovely time at Janis and Claudia's palatial home bordering the beautiful Brookhaven Country Club (Note: noses in air...it was hard to breath from being in such rarified air!) Lots of laughing, new faces not even from the list (imagine that!), and a terrific game of Melissa trivia. Those gals know how to get the interest level humminig. We also managed to spend a few moments envlivening the assorted guests with the (now) infamous "Mean People Suck" toasts. Lost count after the first two or three... No need to spend time talking of the trip over to the Dallas convention center, it was full of suprises as only Texas can be! Although seating wasn't as good as in Austin, we managed to make the best of it. The concert rocked as per usual. Once again Patti showed her prowess by rushing the rear stage. I was lucky enough to be compressed against Patti during that rear stage set, nothing like WAITAMINUTE HERE!! Patti again....I think my fingers have a sound in them right now to manage a quick post before my voice disappears again! Just wanted to note a few things....Did I tell you that Melissa handed her pick to me just before leaving the small stage? OK, shut up now, Sue!! OK O-K-A-Y!!! So I guess I DID mention it maybe once. Maybe a couple o'hundred times. So one more won't kill ya! We had a flat going into the parking garage last night, but decided OF COURSE to deal with it AFTER the concert. It was quite a sight with about a dozen dykes preparing to change a tire! As it turns out, our one and only male, Zach Chalmers, a tire-changing virgin, got the honors with LOTS of direction. Thanks Zach!!! You're a prince among men! At The Ridge after the show, Raunchy & I started dancing to "Let's Give Them Something To Type About"...and pretty soon Diane Brundige had her video camera out capturing it for posterity. HEY! I didn't sign a release, so watch what you're doin' with that tape now!!! Better not catchya puttin' in on the web, Diane!!! BTW, all, I got a whole roll (27 pix) of Melissa at the small stage in Austin....God, that woman is tremendous!!! I hope they turn out OK....didn't get her to sign a release as she wouldn't even sign Sue's kickass jacket! Ah well..... If you're ever in Dallas, catch the barkeeps at The Ridge for good time....we did a "Mean People Suck" toast with them and it was great! Fun folks! Raunch...wanna post sumpthin'??? Raunch here...Well, what more can I add? This certainly is exhaustive without my two cents worth! I just want to say that I can't sleep through "anything"...heh. I sure as hell couldnt have slept through that primal scream at the end of YLS!!!!!!! Whoooooweeeee, baby! Talk about shivers running up and down and down and up and, well, you get the picture. I think I'm sweatin' Shall we sigh...n off, ladies? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:24:46 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: MELTS Sue said: > I am seriously consider taking on the project of list t-shirts. > But the first step is a logo. Any ideas or suggestions? I think that would be great!!! I would love to help. What I could do is maybe put some designs together in photoshop and put them up on my website for you to take a look at. I am rather busy with school but it wont be long till break. How long are you looking for a time line here? Like I said, I'd love to help. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 21:40:43 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Just de-lurking... Hello... I know this Duets thing has been commenetd on a lot, but I just wanted to put in my two cents... =) I thought that Joan Osborne and Melissa had some mutual respect going on... She is beautiful and her voice is awesome... As for the attraction thing... I don' know... Jewel was so cute, being kinda nervous... I think Melissa got a kick outta that. Jewel is a very sexy woman and has a great voice... But Sophie B. "Trouble" Hawkins... Well I think she mad Melissa a little uncomfortable... But that was my observation... You never know... Anyways... I want to thank everyone again for all the cyber-hugs and smiles about my kitty... I feel a lot better! =) I was in Boston for Saturday and Sunday... Came back tonight... I have a kinda Melissa related story but not really to tell... =7 My family knows a gentleman in Boston who owns a limo company. So when I fly to Boston from NY, we get a good deal on a car, (sedan not limo), to pick me up from the airport...(Call Monaco Limo's...) =) .... Well last night the only car they had available was a white stretch limo... I couldn't believe it... Anyways... I was talking to the driver and I asked him if he ever drove anyone famous... Heh heh heh... He told me that he once drove Lou Diamond Phillips... I was so excited... I don't know why I was so excited. Maybe it was the limo, Boston, the fact I was going to totally going to surprise my sister... ;) But I got so excited... =) I asked him if there was a woman with him when he drove Lou and he said he thinks so but can't remember... I wonder if it was Julie... I just thought I would share this... Nothing too exciting, but I was excited so... =)~ Okay, enough babbling... I am so ddarn tired... UGH!!! Night all... Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ************************************************* "...hello, hello... this is romeo... calling from a jackpot telephone..." m.e. ************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 19:08:12 -0800 From: barb biagi Subject: spokane hi all Hey, anyone out there live in Spokane ? i can*t find the Spokane Arena on my map ! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:12:53 EST From: "Sue Morzajew, McGill University" Subject: MELTS... >Sue said: >> I am seriously consider taking on the project of list t-shirts. >> But the first step is a logo. Any ideas or suggestions? > >I think that would be great!!! I would love to help. What I could do is >maybe put some designs together in photoshop and put them up on my >website for you to take a look at. I am rather busy with school but it >wont be long till break. How long are you looking for a time line here? > >Like I said, I'd love to help. > >Roger Hi Roger, Thanks for the offer. No particular time frame in mind. Get your ideas on your home page and we will check them out. Keep the ideas coming, Sue ==================================================================== Come visit my home page. The url is: http://vm1.mcgill.ca/~ccsm/http/suehome.html Sue Morzajew McGill University CCSMSUE@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA Montreal Quebec Canada Look me in the eye and let me know If you can't love me then let me go (Melissa Etheridge, Let Me Go) ==================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:18:57 -0500 From: Cathi Subject: Memphis HELP [please] O.K. it's less than a week till the Memphis show and I am near panic mode. I decide to take the bus from good ole Mich. to Memphis, thinking I'ld be able to get a rental car when I got there and I didn't really want to drive all that way by myself. But things are quickly getting out of my control...first, the rental car won't work out [another long story], then today I found out that the ticket agent at the bus station screwed up my ticket [hopefully that will be worked out on monday] and "oh BTW, seats aren't reserved" -- first come first serve, ARGGG! So, my problem is this, assuming I get to Memphis, once there how do I get to the show? If there is anyone going to the show who I could hitch a ride with, I would be very grateful. I still have time to switch my hotel reservation if necessary to make arrangements more convenient. If you can help me out please e-mail me directly, speaktru@iserv.net. Thanks, Cathi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 23:59:30 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Memphis; new CD Hi Listers, It's official...we're driving to Memphis from DC for Melissa's show on Saturday the 23rd. We hope MEIN will hook us up right! (But who knows?) Some of us will be at the Red Roof Inn-Medical Center on Pauline St., which, if my info is correct, is around Beale St. and 2 miles from the Mid-South Coliseum. Some of you have expressed interest in meeting up...the more the merrier! If anyone else wants to try and get together, pre and post concert, email me! AND...in case you just can't get enough Melissa live, here's a new title to shop for: "Another Little Secret", October '95 from Hamburg, Germany, a single CD. See ya in Memphis! Jill (wondering when "Storytellers" will be out!) :) ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 16 Nov 1996 to 17 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Tue Nov 19 00:00:51 1996 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:00:12 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 17 Nov 1996 to 18 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:33:11 +0100 From: Yvonne Hendricks Subject: So you were the lucky one >I listened yesterday to a recording of the AHOY -Show in Rotterdam (Holland) >this Feb. and it reminded me so much: >It was the show where Melissa brought her video-camera to proof back home how >this crowd is.Finally I got the camera to film her, the band and the crowd >during they played "Must be crazy"... Way out that show !!!!!!!!!!!! >The best one I have ever seen and it was such a great thing to get a recording >of this. Melissa said to the crowd: "You are to much !!!" or "You are the high >point of our lives" or "It never feels right until we play Holland" > Just had to respond to this...Ofcourse I was at this concert..Would've been embarresed if I hadn't been there. Unluckely I didn't pay attention as to when the tickets were for sale, so I had to sitt.. You were the guy who was lucky enough to film???? Question, was there any possibility for you to get a copy of what you filmed? Just a question... >Imagine: 20.000 hands clapping to the rhythm of "I want to come over" for the >hole song and not just for 2 minutes of it. Or a few thousand starting to sing >"Similar features" right in the moment the band starts the song and they made >Melissa listening to them and she didn't start to sing until the 2nd verse. >The same happened when the band started "Change" or when she started with >"Occasionally". And you might know the story about all these lighters flipped >on/off to the rhythm of the music (mainly on "Like the way"). So great: huge, >dark venue and then every second a few thousand lighters being lightened. > >I would say it is not possible to get something like this elsewhere but in >Holland. - Provocation!!! ;) - > Yep, that's Holland for ya..No way gals and guys are gonna match that..(ggg) I've been to 3 concerts now, and everytime is just an experience. I frequently go to concerts and the only one who matched Melissa's concert (a bit, it wasn't Melissa y'know) was Kid Creole and the Coconuts..So (for me) on places 1,2 and 3 there's Melissa and on 4 Kid Creole.. You know what I always wonder..(maybe I'm gonna get burned now but hey) if she really means it. If she's saying it everywhere and it's just part of show or that she's really sincere 'bout y'know... Another thing I liked was, when she was on tour with Brian a lot of people came to see Brian because of Melissa..I thought I was like the only one who did that..NOT...Anyway, thought that was funny. . >So lets try to get close to that !!! It doesn't work just with spontaneous >ideas. Go ahead and try (ggg) anyway if you do succeed then at least let her know you got the idea from The Dutch. It's a deal??? Btw. do hope y'all succeed.... Give her my best See ya Yvonne Yvonne Hendricks TNO-TPD-TU Instrumentatie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:21:33 -0500 From: Jan Subject: Storytellers Storytellers will be on again on Sunday, Nov. 24, 10pm EST. Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 08:23:33 -0800 From: Susan Budjako Subject: Re: doberpuppy - not (NMEC) Hey grrls my sheep and goat population has doubled since the booted sheep conversation we had. I guess I need more boots and a lot more Jack Danial. Hi MJ. Susan B rhondda>so when are you coming back to visit? nothing like talking about >"sheep boots" while downing coffee (with whipped cream! ) in the >middle of a freak snow flurry, huh? :-) hey, good to hear from one of you guys, bet the "sheep boots" comment raised a few eyebrows :) Chey is doing great, 80 lbs and too tall to ride in the convertible Z when the top is up! I will be in monterey next M-F.. unfortunately, it is business, business, business... no time to play on this trip :( maybe next time... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 09:08:13 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: Jewel, Melissa and Sophie HI Kids, You know. I was reading what everyone had written about Jewel and ME in their duet. I got a chance to see it again this weekend and y'all are right. Jewel and ME are so sweet, their song is cute and Jewel seems just flattered to be singing with her. I also noticed the checking out of Jewel's tight black pants by ME. I don't think she noticed though. (I wonder if Julie did?) Anyhow, I've never seem Sophie and ME singing, but I do agree that Joan Osbourne were more on the same level. About Sophie, I've always assumed there was some unwritten musician law that when two folks sing together they need to look deeply into each other's eyes. Or play out the music. It can be quite charming, or it can be kind of embarrassing to watch. But either way, I wish I could see it, I haven't caught that one. I meant to mention to Joyce that her experience with her bi girlfriend was brave to say and very insightful. I think you hit a lot of the reasons there tend to be animosity between some gays and bisexuals. That's all for me, Carol ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:01:07 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Venues Beth Durff wrote: >I'm sure that we would all like to see her in the smaller venues, but I >think those days are long gone. I don't. Do you think she's going to be hugely popular forever, or that she'll quit the biz if her popularity wanes? I expect to see her in small venues again in the next few years. >I guess I take >for granted that I will be among the "masses" at a Melissa concert now - and >therefore, I am a bit surprised that some of the places haven't been more >highly attended. How many times will people pay $50 to see the same show? If MLE was the only artist you liked, maybe, but if you go to a dozen concerts every year, you probably won't waste my that much money on artists that can't come up with something *very* new from one tour to the next. =-=-=<>=-=-= Elaine wrote: >Karrie wrote: > >> Back in the good old days, ya know, pre-VH1 and MTV and mall-haired rug rats >> and commercialized music, that was all Melissa ever played. > >Perhaps in the United States but not in other countries. She played to >30,000 at a festival near Toronto in 1989. A festival is hardly indicative of her draw. >Shows in Montreal were >played to well over 5000. And these were as a headliner not an opening >act. Her DC area show in '89 ('90?) was at Wolf Trap (amphitheatre, about 10,000 seats -- don't recall how many filled). In '88 she played the Bayou (club, capacity probably 1,000 or so). >> I would rather Melissa play a small venue. I would rather she sell >> 10,000 copies of a fantastic album > >Somebody who sold that poorly on a major label wouldn't have a recording >contract for very long. Michelle Shocked has recovered nicely from Mercury's neglect. Jane Siberry's started her own label. Daryl Hall is releasing an album independently because his label doesn't like it. And Ani DiFranco got to #83 on the Billboard charts with her latest indie effort. Major labels are not the last word in artists who want to do more than please the masses. =-=-=<>=-=-= Yvonne Hendricks wrote: >You know what I always wonder..(maybe I'm gonna get burned now but hey) if >she really means it. If she's saying it everywhere and it's just part of >show or that she's really sincere 'bout y'know... MLE seems genuinely fond of a few areas which were very supportive of her early on... Montreal, Chicago, Amsterdam, Denver... you should know soon, as MEIN held a contest to guess MLE's 4 favorite places to play. I would guess the above, but with L.A. instead of Denver... I'm sure she loves to play the hometown crowd. =-=-=<>=-=-= Jill Barry wrote: >AND...in case you just can't get enough Melissa live, here's a new title to >shop for: "Another Little Secret", October '95 from Hamburg, Germany, a >single CD. >(wondering when "Storytellers" will be out!) :) I'm hoping to see that one soon, too. I'm surprised we haven't seen any CD boots of the YLS tour yet. -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-11 20:01 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I think you're the least fucked up person I ever met/ and that may be as close to the real thing as I'm ever gonna get" - Ani DiFranco, "The Diner" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:15:07 UT From: Tracy Minter Subject: Storytellers repeat Storytellers with ME is on VH1 at 10pm, Sunday, Nov 24. According to Rock on TV (web: http://www.satchmo.com/rockontv/) T (man, wish I was in Texas last weekend) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:02:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: The Final show with1200 Balloons Hi there, I just got an offer from Gitte (a fan from Germany). I told her yesterday about the plans to make the final real special and she just called me and said that she would sponser 1200 balloons for the LA-show with "Merry Christmas Melissa and come back soon" on them. There will also be the adress of her company on it but I would get them for free. She said she was very sorry that she couldn`t to that show but that she wanted at least to help to make it a nice surprise for Melissa. Now it is our job (the ones who attend the LA-show) to get the right timeing for the balloons. They shouldn`t fly before "LTWID" because it might disturb ME and the band if balloons fly all over the stage during the whole show. I would suggest that I try to meet as many of you who know about this before the show give everyone many of them and that we all hand them to the crowed right before "LTWID" starts with a comment not to let any fly before Melissa screems the first time "..like the way I doooooooooo !!!!" . Hope I find enough who are willing to help on this first job. Still open for more suggestions. Bye and greetings from Germany Tim (Booked my flight to and from La today Dec.8th - 24th) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 13:36:31 -0600 From: Jacqueline Mueller Subject: Books I checked a website called Amazon books. They do list "Melissa Etheridge: An Unauthorized Biography" by Chris Nickson with a publication date of February 1, 1997. Publisher St. Martins Press. Paperback. LIst price $11.95. Although Amazons price will be 10.75. (10% discount). The ISBN is 0312151713. The website is simply www.amazon.com Hope this helps. Jackie Jackie Mueller Center for Mathematics, Science, and Technology Campus Box 5960 Illinois State University Normal, IL 61790 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:36:42 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: Jewell and Melissa Oh man, Jill you are right about MLE checking out Jewel at the end. I just watched it for about the 100th time and I've never noticed that before. I gotta say, it definitely looks like there's a little chemistry going on there during the performance of that song. Whew! I'm still kind of worked up from it! Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:37:50 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: It was cool... Just wanted to say a couple of things... =) I was getting in the car this morning and I put the radio on... It was on 105.1 FM... It's a NY station... There was a radio promo on and I said out loud, and kinda to the radio,,,"Please play Melissa..." Well, guess what... Not only did they play Melissa, they played "Similar Features"!!! I was so surprised at hearing that song... Was that one of her singles? I don't know if it was... I was just so darn happy... =) What a great way to start the day... And one last thing... I was able to snag a copy of Entertainment Weekly from the doctors office waiting room... Heh heh heh... It's the copy with Ellen on it... It aint in great condition, but if anyone didn't get that issue and would like it I will be more that happy to send it to them... I also have an extra copy of NewsWeek with Melissa and Julie on the cover... That also is a bit used, but again, if anyone would like it... E-mail me privately... First ones get it... =) Have a great rest of the day... =) Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ########################################### "... i got Midas in my touch and Delilah in my hair..." m.e. ########################################### ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:36:37 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: Soldout venues...... Don't you think there's a good chance though, that maybe she'll go back to the smaller venues in a couple of years after all the "hype" dies down? She had to give it all a try, but I'm willing to bet she prefers the "good ol' days' as well. It's what she's all about. Whaddya all think? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:22:02 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: Venues/Catherine Deneuve Hi, all-- >>> Deb 11/11/96 08:01pm >>> wrote: >I don't. Do you think she's going to be hugely popular >forever, or that she'll quit the biz if her popularity wanes? I >expect to see her in small venues again in the next few >years. I expect that it will be a few more years before she tours again. She's about to finish a multi-year touring/recording binge and she and Julie will have lil' Cypheridge to play with. I can't imagine that they will suffer if ME stays home for awhile. As for ME's popularity...I think that it's already begun to wane. Not that she's on her way to becoming a has-been, but she certainly wasn't able, IMHO, to ride the wave of YIA as long/much as she would've liked. Perhaps the novelty of her lesbianism, for those who were infatuated with that aspect of her life, has worn off? Maybe YLS just wasn't what fans expected in terms of strong material throughout the entire CD? >How many times will people pay $50 to see the same >show? I'd pay $150 to see even the YIA tour, again, in a smaller venue. I liked YIA and since I've seen her several times in larger outdoor venues since her '93 Indy show at the Murat (plus several times before YIA), I would give just about anything for that small-venue experience again--I wouldn't care if she didn't play *any* post-YIA. >Yvonne Hendricks wrote: >>You know what I always wonder..(maybe I'm gonna get >>burned now but hey) if she really means it. If she's saying >>it everywhere and it's just part of show or that she's really >>sincere 'bout y'know... >MLE seems genuinely fond of a few areas which were very >supportive of her early on... Probably the thing I enjoy the most about ME is what I perceive to be her undeniably genuine affection for, and appreciation of, her fans. She uses some of the same banter from show to show, city to city...but that's to be expected. I think that she honestly attributes the most part of who, what and where she is today to the loyalty of her fans. We appreciate and respect her--she appreciates and respects us. >I'm surprised we haven't seen any CD boots of the YLS tour >yet. Not really...are you? ;-) Perhaps the material and and performances haven't been up to 'boot' par, as far as makers/ distributors are concerned. Or perhaps, bootleggers are backing off, given the recent overseas busts. Lou "Diamond Phillips" Pinchen ;-) wrote, wrt Catherine Deneuve: >Well she's 50+, 53 to be exact, and looks absolutely >gorgeous, but that's not the reason I like her (yeah right), >she is very talented, ummmm and she speaks french. She also, if my memory serves me correctly, raised a helluva stink over the US-based lesbian mag bearing her last name as its title. The magazine was forced to change its name to Curve. Somebody help me with the details...I think she was offended at the thought of people thinking that the publication was named after her? Anyway...give me Isabella Rossilini (sp?) ANY day. that's all, folks-- jen **In The News: "(Rep. Bob) Dornan is claiming fraud and demanding a recount. He's convinced that people who aren't white, straight, Christian or conservative were somehow allowed to vote." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:18:08 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: thanks, Jen! & SMEC On 11/18/96, Jenniffer Smith added this to the bottom of her message: >**In The News: "(Rep. Bob) Dornan is claiming fraud and >demanding a recount. He's convinced that people who aren't >white, straight, Christian or conservative were somehow >allowed to vote." *LOL* thank you very much- I needed to laugh! I have a request- I'm looking for ME photo negs in a *big* way!! I've got copied pix, but what I'd really like is to have copied negatives. I, of course, would pay for the cost of copying neg-to-neg and shipping, and would also pay for your time. As I am a college student (read: little to no $'s) and neg copies are *expensive* (about $2.50 per frame from my experience) I'll probably only be able to afford two or three frames. Email me privately if you'd be willing to do this. I owe some listers email, but I'm exhausted, so I'm going back to bed for another week. See ya'll later! mary h. tired@ive.got.mono:( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:51:25 EST From: "Sue Morzajew, McGill University" Subject: MELTS-Logo Hey CJ, Thanks for your reply. >I am a designer by trade, and would welcome any thoughts you might have >to get me started. Obviously the ME/Labrys (sp) logo should come into >play, don't you think? Sure, but we have to be careful about copyright infringement and stuff. Joyce, any comments on this? And maybe we should stick to two colors - definetaly purple and what else? I believe that the T-shirts themselves will be either black, white or natural cotton beige... Keeping that in mind, use any ideas you may have. Anyone else have any comments and or suggestions? I thought that many of you wnated a list t-shirt... Time to go. I hope to hear from you all very soon... Sue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:44:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: The Final show with1200 Balloons part 2 Hi, before I get any more warnings: I didn`t think of helium filled balloons !!! I thought that everyone who gets a balloon has to inflate it himself. Bye Tim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:27:02 EST From: "Sue Morzajew, McGill University" Subject: Re[2]: MELTS-Logo >Hi, Sue, > >How about this idea for the MElist shirts- take the ME-labrys thing, >extend the vertical cross downward and lengthen the right horizontal >crossbar at the bottom. That should make it look somewhat like an "L" >after that, add "ist" to the right, thus making it look (somewhat) like >this: > > > = > ======= > ====* = *==== > ===* = *=== > ====* = *==== > = > = IST > = = ==== > = >THE MELISSA ETHERIDGE > MAILING LIST > > >Just an idea, and I have *no* clue if this infringes copyright. I like >the colors heather for the t-shirt (that natural off white stuff) and >dark purple for the logo & words. > >thanks, and if you have any questions, Sue, feel free to email me: >lostwomyn@juno.com > >mary h. Hey Mary, Thanks for the reply. Sounds like a good idea - Roger, CJ, what do you all think? Keep the ideas coming... Sue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 23:35:06 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: NMEC: Our guys in Bosnia need mail Thanks bunches for all the warm responses to my request so far. Please remember to send mail to our overseas personnel, wherever they are, by Dec.2. Peace. -- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 17 Nov 1996 to 18 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Wed Nov 20 00:01:00 1996 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 00:00:20 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 18 Nov 1996 to 20 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:59:40 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: Re: Catherine Deneuve Jen Smith wrote: >She also, if my memory serves me correctly, raised a helluva >stink over the US-based lesbian mag bearing her last name >as its title. The magazine was forced to change its name to >Curve. Somebody help me with the details...I think she was >offended at the thought of people thinking that the publication >was named after her? The reason given was she is selling a perfume with the name "Deneuve" and the magazine was infringing on her trademark. No word yet on what the British band Curve thinks of the mag's new name .... -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) matthewb@li.net http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:59:23 -0500 From: Jan Subject: Re: attendance figures Deb wrote: > A festival is hardly indicative of her draw. If she were only one of many and playing somewhere in the middle of the pack, yes. But as a latenight headliner and most people were still there, I'd think it was a pretty good indication. The point was she did have large audiences prior to YIA, just maybe not in the US. >> Major labels are not the last word in artists who want to do more >than please the masses. No, but it is easier and seems to be what Melissa wants. Could you imagine Melissa signing and selling her CDs in a club? Elaine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:02:58 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Picks! Picks & More Picks! Hey Gang! Just got my MEIN Christmas flyer and would you get this, if you sign up a friend for the holidays you will receive your very own Melissa guitar pick! Can yo beleive it! I have tried for years to snag one of them little boogers and now all I have to do is be nice to a friend!!! Hey! The denim jacket is nice and the leather one is on sale!!! I wonder if I have been too naughty to even consider the leather one on my Christmas list??? It sure would keep me warm in the cave this winter!!! That's all for now!!!! Guess I'll just keep on a wishin'!!!!! Much Warmth! "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:16:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: ME+ba: "It`s only love" bought it today Hello everyone, I bought the new BA singel today: Called "Star" (big red star and black background on the cover) 1: Star (single version) 2: The thing that looks good on me is you (live) 3: It`s only love - with MELISSA ETHERIDGE (live) 4: Run to you (live) Tracks 2,3 and 4 recorded live at Wembly Stadium, July 27th 1996 A&M Records 582 027-2; LC 0485; PY 940 (on the German version) There it is and it is damn worth buying it !!! Melissa is as usual singing great. Bye, have to listen to it again. Tim Dunker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:43:38 -0600 From: "Carol B. Dappert" Subject: Catherine Denueve and Curve >Well she's 50+, 53 to be exact, and looks absolutely >gorgeous, but that's not the reason I like her (yeah right), >she is very talented, ummmm and she speaks french. >She also, if my memory serves me correctly, raised a helluva >stink over the US-based lesbian mag bearing her last name >as its title. The magazine was forced to change its name to >Curve. Somebody help me with the details...I think she was >offended at the thought of people thinking that the publication >was named after her? Yes, you are correct. The lesbian magazine that started out as Denueve (sp?) had to change their name because of legal action by Catherine. Funny thing was that the magazine was name after the editor, Franco's, first girlfriend who's name happened to be Denueve. Story goes that Franco's first girlfriend dissed her for some guy after she and Franco had a very hot summer camp experience. Franco was crushed and never fully recovered from the heartbreak. So as a slap in the face she named the lesbian magazine after this young woman. Great magazine!!!!! Melissa has appeared several times in Denueve/Curve. I remember one snapshot of ME and Julie where they had the magazine in their laps and the caption read something like: "When asked to hold the magazine up for the photo, Melissa complied immediately but Julie said, No! . . .and the magazine went back on their laps. What do you make of that? Carol B. Dappert dappert@icon-stl.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:26:48 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: Re: Catherine Deneuve >>> Redsocks 11/19/96 01:59am >>> wrote: >The reason given was she is selling a perfume with the >name "Deneuve" and the magazine was infringing on her >trademark. Ok...I vaguely remember now...perhaps it was the magazine itself which made the assumption that she (Catherine) was being pissy over the association of her name w/a lesbian publication. And I know that we've covered this upon occasion...but what's with the trademarking of her last name? What if my last name was also Deneuve and I wanted to name my own products after myself? Would this be an entirely different situation than w/the magazine calling itself Deneuve (w/no apparent legal connection to the name)? >No word yet on what the British band Curve thinks of the >mag's new name .... It's also interesting that since the renaming of the magazine, a prominent fragrence developer (maybe Liz Claiborne?) has come out with a new scent called 'Curve'. My God...will this vicious circle never end??? 8-p---- jen, who thinks that perhaps this whole name thing has become an unecessary obsession (can I say that--with it being the name of a popular cologne and all?). ***If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kickboxing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:33:34 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: good ol' Kathy wrote that she bet Melissa misses the good ol' days of smaller venues, (etc).: I don't know if I agree. I read somewhere something like that one of her dreams in life has been to be the first female rock and roll musician to tour the world playing in those big stadiums, etc. Do you think this tour qualifies? -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:12:33 -0800 From: Jacky Abromitis Subject: SMEC: Amazon Books--NOT feminist Jacqueline Mueller wrote: > I checked a website called Amazon books. > The website is simply www.amazon.com For those who are concerned about where their money goes, be aware that Amazon.com is NOT a feminist bookseller. They have been called "Borders of the 'Net." They are a HUGE, male owned company (not that this is "bad," but they aren't associated with any feminist bookselling groups). There's a big feminist bookseller in the midwest called Amazon Books who is very upset about Amazon.com using a name not only similar to theirs, but one that is misleading to book buyers. I am also a feminist/lesbian bookseller. I'll have the book ("Melissa Etheridge: An Unauthorized Biography" by Chris Nickson with a publication date of February 1, 1997) at 15% off, but I'm not on this list to solicit business. If you want to purchase your book(s) from a feminist bookseller, I'd be happy to put you in touch with one in your area. Email me privately with your city and state. Jacky http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Thunder_Road_Book_Club ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:27:31 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: POOH's Post and other stuff... POOH, I just want to say how your beautiful words warmed my heart... I was away for the weekend and did not read your post until yesterday...The way you put your thoughts into words gives my heart the warmth you can only get from a fire on a cold winter's day... The thoughts and emotions that you portray my dear bear are so beautiful... Filled with love and colorful images and warm thoughts... Tears are in my eyes and a smile plays on my lips when I read your wonderful words... The colours of the seasons are like the colorful faces of all the people of the world... We are all equal and all alive and for that I give thanks to out Great Spirit for letting me see, letting me feel, and letting me love... Life is a gift and I am thankful or it every day... I just wanted to express how I feel... It's not a post about Melissa directly, but it's about all people... All colors, and all the living creatures on Earth... The four legged, the winged creatures and those that swim in the waters and crawl upon Mother Earth... Just look into the sky today and see a bird flying, soaring on the wind... Let your thoughts and prayers fly with that bird... Let your smile warm the day of a stranger... It may be the only smile they receice today... Try to see the beauty in things that others do not... And most of all, be thankful that life can be beautiful... There is always sunshine, even on cloudy days... It's a little early for Thankgiving, I know... But you don't need a holiday to be thankful, just a regular day... Have a good day... Smiles to everyone... =) Love and Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ########################################### "...i believed in the stars and i knew they cast the spell that i was under..." m.e. ########################################### ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:38:49 -0500 From: Tina Chambers Subject: balloons, small venues Tim Dunker wrote re his ballon idea: >I would suggest that I try to meet as many of you who know about this >before the >show give everyone many of them and that we all hand them to the crowed >right >before "LTWID" starts with a comment not to let any fly before Melissa >screems >the first time "..like the way I doooooooooo !!!!" . I truly hope you can make this one "fly", so to speak . However, be aware that you'll need many *many* volunteers to pass out balloons. since seats are reserved, the majority of the crowd will show up only 30 minutes or less before showtime, and I'm guessing that the venue she'll play will be rather large....lots of people to cover, and very little time to do it in :-( Jenniffer Smith wrote: >Not that she's on her way to becoming a has-been, >but she certainly wasn't able, IMHO, to ride the wave of YIA >as long/much as she would've liked. Perhaps the novelty of >her lesbianism, for those who were infatuated with that >aspect of her life, has worn off? I believe so...seems that not even the timely press release of Austin's conception (right at the start of the U.S. tour, since the U.S. is the country that made the biggest deal out of her sexuality) could prolong the novelty effect > I would give just about anything for that small-venue experience again Buy a ticket to Europe ;-) Deb wrote: >I'm surprised we haven't seen any CD boots of the YLS tour >yet. There are several European ones....or were you referring to U.S. only? Sue wrote: >Anyone else have any comments and or suggestions? I thought >that many of you wnated a list t-shirt... *MORE* shirts????? (heaving highly exaggerated sigh) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 17:56:14 -0800 From: Marleen Niekel Subject: YLS tour bootlegs Hi there listers, Just a little delurking... Deb wrote: > I'm surprised we haven't seen any CD boots of the YLS tour yet. You haven't??? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something (me being the not so good English reading/writing kinda person;-), but are you saying that there aren't any bootlegs from the YLS tour, available in the States??? How is that possible. There's lots of them here in Holland. Just to name a few: * Rotterdam, Holland 2-2-'96 * Cologne, Germany 5-2-'96 * Berlin, Germany 14-2-'96 And quite some more. Hope they'll find their way to the States soon. ================ BTW Tim, I agree, the Ahoy Rotterdam boot is the BEST!!! Which makes the fact that I wasn't at that concert even harder:-( ================ Yvonne Hendricks wrote: > Another thing I liked was, when she was on tour with Brian a lot of people > came to see Brian because of Melissa..I thought I was like the only one who > did that.. NO you were not the only one. Although I didn't exactly came to see Brian because of Melissa. I came to see Melissa, and didn't wait to see Brian;-) And I know some other dutch lister who did the same (hi there Fenneke) OKAY, back to lurking Marleen. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:57:08 -0500 From: CJ Subject: MELTS-First Pass Okay - here we go! I've taken a first shot at a logo design for the T-shirts. It can be found at the following address: http://www.tiac.net/users/cj/rs/melister.html "Anyone, anyone... Bueller, Bueller..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 18:05:09 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: venues again Deb wrote: >Do you think she's going to be hugely popular forever, or that >she'll quit the biz if her popularity wanes? No and no... but even if the venues aren't filled to capacity now, I still don't forsee her going back to those intimate coffee house days - not in the immediate future anyway.... just smaller venues that she *can* fill >How many times will people pay $50 to see the same show? I don't know - that hasn't happened for me yet. You're talking to a person who's *seriously* thinking about getting in the car and driving 950 miles to see her in Memphis this weekend... >If MLE was the only artist you liked, maybe, I rest my case !!!! just kidding...but she is the only one I'm *still* willing to pay 50 bucks to see. Beth (already packin' my toothbrush... woo hoo!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:31:43 -0500 From: Mike Lieman Subject: Re: Venues/Catherine Deneuve At 04:22 PM 11/18/96 -0500, you wrote: >>I'm surprised we haven't seen any CD boots of the YLS tour >>yet. > >Not really...are you? ;-) Perhaps the material and and >performances haven't been up to 'boot' par, as far as makers/ >distributors are concerned. Or perhaps, bootleggers are >backing off, given the recent overseas busts. But there *are* live tapes circulating now amongst traders (all five of the first gens have been mailed out for the 9/6/96 show!) E-mail me w/ confirmations as you recieve yours. peace Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 09:47:58 EDT From: Elizabeth Burns Subject: Re: good ol' marcy wrote: >Kathy wrote that she bet Melissa misses the good ol' days of smaller >venues, (etc).: >I don't know if I agree. I read somewhere something like that one of her >dreams in life has been to be the first female rock and roll musician to >tour the world playing in those big stadiums, etc. >Do you think this tour qualifies? What's the point of doing an entire tour of big stadiums if you can't sell them out. From what people have been mentioning on the list, she's not coming close to selling out many of them. At least not in the US. Out of curiousity, is anyone aware of any of ME's US stadium shows that have sold out? I just don't understand the point of playing large venues and not being able to fill them, as opposed to playing smaller venues and selling them out. Or if not selling them out, at least filling them up to almost capacity. As long as she has the clout to be able to play stadiums and as long as people are willing to shell out the money for it, she'll probably continue to do so. That's great that she was able to achieve that, if it was in fact one of her dreams. I personally don't care for this type of tour, nor was i thrilled with the choice of songs she sang. But i paid my money because i wanted the opportunity to see her once again. I think she's a great performer and i love seeing her live. But I wouldn't pay to see her again on this tour. I much prefer her shows/concerts prior to YLS. But i certainly don't wish her less success in the future just so she'll go back to the smaller venues. (I'm not saying that anyone *does* wish that, i'm simply making a comment.) The other thing about playing big stadiums, and this just popped into my mind....could it be that by playing the larger places she doesn't have to do as many concerts? If she plays large venues in the bigger cities, she's more likely to attract people from smaller cities without actually having to play the xtra dates. Just a thought... Okay, that's my 2 cents on the subject. liz (...22 days to go on the Jud countdown... ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:14:19 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: off topic...my doggie is sick Hi everyone! My little doggie is sick. I have a Shetland Sheepdog, a Sheltie named Trevor. He will be 9 in January. He is having some problems with colitis and He has to have another tooth out. This thime it is the left canine. He has a problem with rotting teeth and had 5 out last year. 1 in 10 Shelties have this problem from inbreeding. I feel so bad for him and I wish he didn't have to go through this. The vet told me that these are exceptional dogs!! They are extremely intelligent and they get boared easily if they don't have work to do. Shelties are working dogs (they herd sheep). She said he gets depressed. Seems that Trevor doesn't like me working!! He is going to be operated on in December for the tooth. Just keep him in your pet prayers. He is my little baby! I take him in stores and bars! (YES SUE D., he's been to Gargoyls!!!) The vet said he would be ok. She is just concerned about THAT tooth! It is a difficult one to remove. Thanks for reading! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:14:27 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: attendance figures I remember seeing Melissa in a club on her first headlining tour...Memorial Day weekend at the Chestnut Cabaret in Philly. All 25 of us has a great time! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:40:48 -0600 From: Paul Wiltberger Subject: Large Venue Comment At 08:33 AM 11/19/96 EDT, Marcy wrote: >Kathy wrote that she bet Melissa misses the good ol' days of smaller >venues, (etc).: > >I don't know if I agree. I read somewhere something like that one of her >dreams in life has been to be the first female rock and roll musician to >tour the world playing in those big stadiums, etc. > I had heard this also and started thinking about former female rockers. How can she make this statement when the following people have played the large venues like MLE has on this tour. Pat Benatar, Joan Jett, Leta Ford, Chrissy Hines(sp), MADONNA. I can't think of anymore right now but there is gotta be more. Back to lurk mode p.w. To all non-hockey fans....... Would you kindly remain in your seat or in the aisle until the WHISTLE BLOWS !!!!!!!!! If not, you never know what might happen..... Paul W. bruizer@tsrcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 22:49:49 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Large Venue Comment In a message dated 11/19/96 8:41:56 PM, bruizer@TSRCOM.COM (Paul Wiltberger) wrote: <> Heart (Ann and Nancy Wilson collectively and single).....Alanis Morrisette....Courtney Love...Indigo Girls...Poe....Jewel...Joan Osbourne...Tracy Bothom...Fiona Apple...Paula Cole...Melissa Ferrick...kd...Joni Mitchell...Natalie Merchant...October Project's Mary Fahl...Etc.. Francie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 20:17:57 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: Large Venue Comment On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Francie Trout wrote: > < How can she make this statement when the following people have played the > large venues like MLE has on this tour. > Pat Benatar, Joan Jett, Leta Ford, Chrissy Hines(sp), MADONNA. > I can't think of anymore right now but there is gotta be more.>> > Heart (Ann and Nancy Wilson collectively and single).....Alanis > Morrisette....Courtney Love...Indigo Girls...Poe....Jewel...Joan > Osbourne...Tracy Bothom...Fiona Apple...Paula Cole...Melissa > Ferrick...kd...Joni Mitchell...Natalie Merchant...October Project's Mary Um, I think Melissa was talking about venues like Madison Square Garden, the Meadowlands, and other stadium-like atrocities. Didn't she even use the term "stadium?" Something along the lines of Bruce's Born in the USA tour? Or Guns n Roses? Or, if I can be nostalgic here, The Police's Synchronicity tour? Even on this tour, she hasn't consistently played those types of venues. And while I love IGs, Jewel, Paula, Joan, Natalie, kd, and on good days Ferrick, they aren't headlining stadiums. And a lot of folks would be hard-pressed to call Madonna "rock." Sure, there are a lot of great female acts out there, but the list becomes really short when the defining terms are "rock" and "stadium." Allison "I knew it had to have been a blonde." edgy@netcom.com --P. Shaw (11/02/96) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:46:03 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Large Venue Comment Natalie Merchant played 15,000 to 20,000+ venues with 10,000 maniacs on their LAST OFFICAL TOUR IN 1994! She OPENED for Sting is summer in venues with the same number of attenence. kd played the SAME EXACT VENUES this past summer. Paula Cole OPENED for Melissa when she was SELLING out venues of 15,000 + at the end of her Yes I am Tour in 1995. October Project would sell out 5, 000 + in Philly, NYC, Atlanta and LA. Is it the town or what? Francie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:59:36 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: Jewel All the comments about Melissa cruising Jewel enticed me to look again at the Duets tape. Yes, she does appear to look Jewel up and down from behind during the song at the end where they're all together (and to enjoy it). But doncha also think she looks down her shirt? Right after Jewel half crosses then uncrosses her arm, then she and mle sing "lover, ooo, ooo" in the same mic., and Melissa raises her eyebrows? (Or was that just me looking and blaming Melissa?) ;- ) -marcy ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 18 Nov 1996 to 20 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Wed Nov 20 22:07:07 1996 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:06:22 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 20 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 02:05:43 EST From: Virginia Siskavich Subject: One more Jewel... I think that had Melissa looked Jewel up and down...and/or glanced down her shirt, it was totally human. I think that we are tearing this whole thing apart for no real reason...like gossiping old ladies. Personally, I think it IS kind of fun...and am a bit jealous that it wasn't me she was (seductively?) peering at. We all ready for Sesame Street? Thurs., right? Well, back to monotony. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 23:32:00 -0800 From: Christine Du Bois Subject: Re: Curve Redsocks said: > No word yet on what the British band Curve thinks of the mag's new name ... Fortunately, the band broke up about two years ago. Christine Du Bois ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:26:15 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: Melissa hi you all, I am listening to dutch 3FM and guess what? It's 9.50 AM and I hear: "Hi, this is Melissa Etheridge and you're listening to the "arbeidsvitaminen" " guess..... I am shocked. I put in a tape as quickly as I can but they play no Melissa song after the message. My tapedeck is very sharp now so nothing can go wrong. The arbeidsvitaminen (translated something like: working vitamins) are from 9 to 12AM so I've to wait for a while if something is going to happen. I don't think so but you never know..... ********************* Marleen Niekel wrote: >How is that possible. There's lots of them here in Holland. >Just to name a few: >* Rotterdam, Holland 2-2-'96 I would love to have a copy of that one. I've the Run Baby Run boot with four songs of this concert but if this the complete concert I would like it to get very very much! Could you tell me how it's called (cd or just audio tape?) and if there is a possibilty we can trade ( een hollandse ruil...). Let me know what you know about this boot please. >NO you were not the only one. Although I didn't exactly came to see Brian >because of Melissa. I came to see Melissa, Count me as the next one who just wanted to see Mel. ********************* I received the Private demos 83-93 tape this week and I love it. (Thanks Linnette !) I was thinking about some things and maybe somebody has answers. Here's the question boy again (;-)): How did this tape become public domain? (who is the original owner of the first generation tape of this one?) Why are non-released songs on the tape? It's special for artists to give like that. Do you think she'll use them on a album sometime? Has American Girl something to do with the All American Girl on YIA? (different lyrics and rhythm) The tape is fantastic and I hope to find the '16 unreleased and unrecorded' boot soon. Is somebody out here who wants to trade? Enough questions. Now I'm going to wait untill Melissa shows up in the show on 3FM. If she does I'll let you know. Bye, Marcel <> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 06:16:19 -0500 From: Sue Molyneaux Subject: Grammys CD ROM Hi all Finally picked up the 1995 CD ROM, "The Grammys - 35 years of excellence in music". Amazing quality! Melissa looks great, even if the clip is only about 1 minute long (she is singing "Bring Me Some Water" from 1989). And for anyone in the Toronto area, Adventure Electronics has the package on sale for $10. And just a reminder to keep posting Melissa's TV appearances. I recently rewrote the FAQ for easier reading. The list can be found at my homepage, through the Melissa link (of course!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:16:20 -0500 From: Toni Robinson Subject: Amazon, venues, shelties & jewel >From: Jacky Abromitis >Subject: SMEC: Amazon Books--NOT feminist >For those who are concerned about where their money goes, be aware that >Amazon.com >is NOT a feminist bookseller. They have been called "Borders of the >'Net." Thanks for clearing that up..I had been wondering about them, but hadn't had a chance to check it out. Can't wait to buy the book..don't worry Joyce, I'll still buy yours :-) >From: Elizabeth Burns >>Kathy wrote that she bet Melissa misses the good ol' days of smaller >>venues, (etc).: >>I don't know if I agree. I read somewhere something like that one of her >>dreams in life has been to be the first female rock and roll musician to >>tour the world playing in those big stadiums, etc. Well this'll prolly put some bee's in your bonnet (collectively speaking), but I actually like the 'semi-stadium' thing. Not those huge, massive sprawling things that have horrible sound..I mean the sorta medium big places, like Nissan Pavillion (I hear you all cringing as I type). Let me explain this position. I missed out on ME prior to YIA, so I don't have those lingering memories of intimate venues. I've watched part of Storytellers (dying to see the rest of it on tape, but haven't had a chance yet), and although I think she sounds great, I do not prefer her accoustic sound to her rock-the-house-go-crazy concert sound. Just MHO, but at least this year MLE has been able to offer a little of both. >From: Francie Trout >Subject: off topic...my doggie is sick >My little doggie is sick. I have a Shetland Sheepdog, a Sheltie named Trevor. Shelties are adorable..so sorry to hear yours is sick! We'll be thinking good thoughts for Trevor. >From: Marcy Kunst >All the comments about Melissa cruising Jewel enticed me to look again >at the Duets tape. Yes, she does appear to look Jewel up and down from LOL..I definitly thought this when I first saw Duets. Wonder if anybody got in trouble after the show? Toni ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:25:17 -0500 From: CJ Subject: Re: Picks, Picks & More Picks Pooh- I know exactly how you feel about those little darlings, so I took the bait and signed up a friend. (I Think MEIN is desperate for members. I would guess most of us really join only for good concert seats, and if ME isn't touring next year...) - Hey, the pick's worth $19 to me. I also fell for the sale merchandise and ordered the varsity jacket. I expect it to arrive before the end of the week, so I'll let you know how warm it is! Maybe I can help you decide whether to ask Santa for it or not! CJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:50:06 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: Sesame Street I keep hearing about Sesame Street airing on Nov 22 (Thurs) at 7 and 11 in the Northern NJ area. Does anyone know when that airs in WV (Princeton)on TCI princeton telecable. If any one knows, please let me know... Thanks, Sonya ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:40:43 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: Melts Hi there, I think the logo is cool..what did you use to create the logo... Sonya Swhitfie@wpo.hcc.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:59:37 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Dallas concert report I went on the Texas 3-concert tour (Austin, Dallas, Houston) with 35 other obsessives, and got home last night. This morning I just hafta brag about the Dallas show. I want to brag about the wonderful people I met on the tour, but not now. The LiteBrite String: -------------------- I was in the second row, center, with other tour nuts. We all had these glow-in-the-dark necklace thingees. During the show, someone in our row started connecting the necklaces end-to-end. They showed the now-lengthening string to Melissa by waving the whole thing (left-to-right) to the rhythm of her music. Each of us kept adding our own necklaces to the growing end. It grew longer and longer, still waving to the music. Finally it got to be 25 feet long. When the song was over, Melissa asked us to pass it up to the stage. The second-row tour nuts passed it to the first row, who then walked it up to the stage (the Security people had to duck) and up to Melissa on the right end, and John Shanks on the left. They walked it back to Kenny's drum kit, and wrapped it around the whole rig. Kenny looked flattered. The LiteBrite String stayed with Kenny for the rest of the nite. The Finale High-5: ----------------- You readers who have never seen me, my picture is on my Web site under "Outdoors". It's easy to find me in a Melissa concert. I'm a man, 6 feet, grey beard, messy hear. Also I tend to rock a lot to the music. (Well I can't help it I go nuts for Melissa and her music.) At the end of every show, Melissa delivers a high-5 hand-slap to everybody at the edge of the stage, as she walks across to her exit. I was determined !!! to get lucky this night: I was at the stage, ready. The song is TWIO. I had both hands in the air. When she got to me, she didn't slap my hand. She grabbed BOTH of my hands, and she wouldn't let go! I was so surprised I didn't know what to do, so I didn't do anything. Then she released me, and continued down the stage to get the rest of the fans. After Kenny's finale, he did the same high-5 for the fans at the stage. And when he got to me, he did the same thing! The "Hands" Report: ------------------ Melissa's hands are strong. But also I felt a lot of control in them. She certainly had control of me for that brief encounter. And I think her hands are very sexy, because of the control that she has with them. Kenny's hands are also very strong. He also has a lot of control, but different from Melissa. Kenny didn't exactly hold my hands: he took them, and he decided when to let go. I had no choice. End of brag-mode. -- Dan in Toronto danc@terraport.net http://www.canscape.com/dancohen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:36:27 -0500 From: Donk Subject: Memphis-bound! Headed for Memphis from Michigan! Is there anyone else that's a MEIN member that has an extra ticket I can pay you for? If so, I plan to join but I'd like somebody to get that pik, so we can help each other out. You find a friend to join (me) and get the pik and I'll buy a ticket from you down in Memphis... E-mail me privately at: cnd@engin.umich.edu if interested. Catherine "Keep it precious..." cause "I'll never be the same..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:43:49 -0500 From: Deb Subject: GLAADAlert 11.08.96 (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 16:37:01 -0700 From: Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation To: "Recipient.List.Suppressed": ; Subject: GLAADAlert 11.08.96 GLAADALERT November 8, 1996 The GLAADAlert is the weekly activation tool of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [...] 20/20 Coverage of Etheridge/Cypher While the November 1 20/20 presented an interesting and in-depth interview with rock star Melissa Etheridge and her partner Julie Cypher about their relationship, their expected child and lesbian and gay parenting in general, they also fell into the now archaic trap of interviewing an anti-gay religious radical. Under the guise of "balanced journalism," 20/20 featured infamous homophobic radical Lou Sheldon of the hate group the Traditional Values Coalition, who spewed his hatred by condemning lesbian and gay families. Would a show about interracial parents and their children have a member of the Ku Klux Klan for "balance?" A hate group is a hate group, whether it deals with race, sexual orientation or religion, and such groups should not be dignified as a valid "opposing viewpoint" in an otherwise engaging and balanced story. The interview with Etheridge and Cypher tells the story of how in love and devoted they are to one another, how they met and how excited they are about their child. 20/20 also provided viewers with information about how the children of lesbian and gay parents neither suffer great discrimination nor have any more issues about their own sexuality or gender roles due to having same-sex parents. Tell 20/20 that the story and information about parenting was great. However, the piece fell flat by giving hate a soapbox from which to preach. Contact: Victor Newfeld, Executive Producer, 20/20, 147 Columbus Avenue, New York, NY 10023, fax: 212.456.2969, e-mail: abcaudr@ccabc.com. [...] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) glaad@glaad.org TO REPORT DEFAMATION IN THE MEDIA - Call GLAAD's Alertline at 1.800.GAY.MEDIA or go to the GLAAD Web Site at www.glaad.org and report through our Alertline Online. TO JOIN GLAAD AND RECEIVE GLAAD's DISPATCH AND QUARTERLY IMAGES MAGAZINE, call 1.800.GAY.MEDIA or join on the Web today at www.glaad.org/glaad/join/join-about.html TO SUBSCRIBE TO GLAAD-Net, GLAAD's electronic mailing list, send e-mail to majordomo@vector.casti.com with the message "Subscribe GLAAD-Net" TO UNSUBSCRIBE, send e-mail to majordomo@vector.casti.com with the message "Unsubscribe GLAAD-Net" GLAAD is the nation's lesbian and gay news bureau and the only national lesbian and gay multimedia watchdog organization. GLAAD promotes fair, accurate and inclusive representation as a means of challenging discrimination based on sexual orientation or identity. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "GLAAD" and "Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation" are registered trademarks of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:00:06 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Magazines... Hi... Just wanted to let everyone know who is sending e-mails about the post I made regarding the Entertainment Magazine with Ellen and The NewsWek with Melissa... They are already spoken for by the first two e-mails I got! =) Sorry... Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:19:07 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: Large Venue Comment Edgy wrote: ***Um, I think Melissa was talking about venues like Madison Square Garden, ***the Meadowlands, and other stadium-like atrocities. Didn't she even use ***the term "stadium?" Something along the lines of Bruce's Born in the USA ***tour? Or Guns n Roses? Or, if I can be nostalgic here, The Police's ***Synchronicity tour? Even on this tour, she hasn't consistently played ***those types of venues. And while I love IGs, Jewel, Paula, Joan, Natalie, ***kd, and on good days Ferrick, they aren't headlining stadiums. And a lot ***of folks would be hard-pressed to call Madonna "rock." Sure, there are a ***lot of great female acts out there, but the list becomes really short when ***the defining terms are "rock" and "stadium." Okay...we can't really call Madonna rock...but what about Tina Turner? She is as much rock if not more so than some of the so-called female rockers already mentioned. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:06:45 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Bios, Bios, Bios.... Toni Robinson said of the Chris Nickson biography: >> Can't wait to buy the book..don't worry Joyce, I'll still buy yours :-)<< LOL! Hey, you're not a real fan (tm) unless you buy 'em both. ;-) Later, y'all, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:26:38 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: Large Venue Comment On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, DOUG wrote: > Okay...we can't really call Madonna rock...but what about Tina > Turner? She is as much rock if not more so than some of the > so-called female rockers already mentioned. Tina! Now *there's* a show! Did anyone see her interview on a recent newsmag show? Her French villa--she looked hot. Oh, and in response to Francie's post, I explicitly said "headlining" in terms of the stadium tour because that's what Melissa was talking about. If not headlining, then Melissa's dream has already come true with the Eagles tour last year. And wouldn't "stadium tour" mean 20 000+ venues throughout? Melissa has not done that. Off to grade essays about Puritan sermons, Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:26:58 -0500 From: Kelley at AOL Subject: sheepherding dogs.... Francie Trout writes: <> I, too, have sheepherding dogs (a Border Collie I raised from puppyhood and a Belgian Tervuren I inherited from an ex-gf). Yes, they do get bored if there not worked. I have went to dog obediance classes on Saturday mornings to train then right (and believe me they *LOVE* it!) They love to be busy. They herd my 6 yr old son (he can't leave the yard with them around). They also love to preform tricks (fetching, agility type activities etc.) Hope you find something you can do to keep your doggy happy while you work. (Wear them out when you're home and they won't mind resting while you work.) Good luck, Kelley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:31:29 +0100 From: Willem Jan Keur Subject: Another Dutchman (not flying) >Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:03:00 +0100 >From: Tim Dunker >Subject: Shows after Dec.9th, who goes ? > >I listened yesterday to a recording of the AHOY -Show in Rotterdam (Holland) >this Feb. and it reminded me so much: >It was the show where Melissa brought her video-camera to proof back home how >this crowd is.Finally I got the camera to film her, the band and the crowd >during they played "Must be crazy"... Way out that show !!!!!!!!!!!! >The best one I have ever seen and it was such a great thing to get a recording >of this. Melissa said to the crowd: "You are to much !!!" or "You are the high >point of our lives" or "It never feels right until we play Holland" Question: what kind of recording I have got a (the) bootleg of the concert in AHOY , 2 feb. 1996 (Tim, if you listened to another recording, please give me more info). It is recorded by someone in the audience, sound quality average. Next is on it: CD1 AUK CD2 Occassionally CTMW ATWTH IWTCO CPH IIWT MBCFM NTG IRLY SF BMSW SP ITOO Change YLS SL LTWID ICHBY INBTS Label: Cupido, number 03/04 >Imagine: 20.000 hands clapping to the rhythm of "I want to come over" for the >hole song and not just for 2 minutes of it. Or a few thousand starting to sing >"Similar features" right in the moment the band starts the song and they made >Melissa listening to them and she didn't start to sing until the 2nd verse. >The same happened when the band started "Change" or when she started with >"Occasionally". And you might know the story about all these lighters flipped >on/off to the rhythm of the music (mainly on "Like the way"). So great: huge, >dark venue and then every second a few thousand lighters being lightened. > Mmmm, there is only enough room for 8,000 people, that is 16,000 hands (hi hi) > >Yep, that's Holland for ya..No way gals and guys are gonna match that..(ggg) >I've been to 3 concerts now, and everytime is just an experience. I >frequently go to concerts and the only one who matched Melissa's concert (a >bit, it wasn't Melissa y'know) was Kid Creole and the Coconuts..So (for me) >on places 1,2 and 3 there's Melissa and on 4 Kid Creole.. I agree with Yvonne. She is also for me on places 1,2,3,4 and 5. Then you get a long time nothing (places 6 till 10). On number 11 Peter Gabriel, Sting enz. enz. By the way. If there are Dutch listers interested in MLE recording, please mail privatly Cheers from a snowy Holland Willem Jan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:11:11 -0400 From: Tegan Godwin Subject: MELTS I like the possible design for MEListeners. It's got my vote so far. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:36:12 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: MELTS About the logo... I guess so far that I'm the only person to not like it. It is too 'Shazam' or 'Flash Gordon'. But that's just my opinion. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:43:55 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: Re: MELTS > About the logo... > > I guess so far that I'm the only person to not like it. It is too > 'Shazam' or 'Flash Gordon'. But that's just my opinion. I kinda have to agree. It was great to do that so quickly for all of us to see and I hate to put it down, but I have to agree with Doug. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:04:48 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Large Venue Comment You wrote>>>>> If not headlining, then Melissa's dream has already come true with the Eagles tour last year. And wouldn't "stadium tour" mean 20 000+ venues throughout? Melissa has not done that. OH yes she has! In Philadelphia, we have a new arena, The Corestates Center that holds 21,000 for a concert. Melissa has played here but did not sell it out. It is not an outdoor stadium but it holds 21,000+. There are others in the country like the new Fleet Center in Boston that Melissa played in August. That one holds about the same amount. As for outside staduims....Melissa has played Foxboro Staduim in Mass in 1993, Woodstock in 1994 (where EVERYONE was a HEADLINER) and various outdoor sheds that hold 20,000+ (Garden State Arts Centre, Oceanview Ampthitheatre, Mann Music Center, etc....) OUr own Sony/Blockbuster E-Center holds 25,000 as I have stated in an earlier post. And what about the outdoor shows she has done throughtout the rest of the world? >>>>>>Oh, and in response to Francie's post, I explicitly said "headlining" in terms of the stadium tour because that's what Melissa was talking about. NEXT TIME, SAY E X P L I C I T L Y Are you REALLY SURE that is what she was talking about or are you assuming? Francie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:29:06 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: good ol' My sincere apologies! Re: Melissa's statement about her dreams: IT WAS NOT A DIRECT QUOTE!!! And it was taken out of context. I only said it because so many people were saying they liked the smaller venues better, and that they thought Melissa did too. I know I tend to project my stuff onto her, so I was just mentioning, PARAPHRASING out of context something I read about her. She probably didn't say stadium, rock and roll, etc. And the dream was like when she was a kid or something, (not a plan as an adult, necessarily), like some kids dream of being president (sick tho they are...kidding!). I'll try to find the interview and post where I saw it later if anyone wants me to. I'll definately be more careful in the future. The typed word is even more open to misinterpretation than the spoken word. This kinda reminded me of that game we used to play as a kid, called telephone, where one person whispers something to another, who passes it down the line to the next etcetc, and when it gets to the last person, the message is nothing like the original. Also, I think Melissa is working her butt off, that bigger venues don't mean less work, she has, what, 21 concerts in Nov? And she's been on the road so long. And gives so much at each concert. And all the interviews etc in between. Anyway. Peace. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:54:26 -0500 From: "Julie I. Lebaillif" Subject: Melissa's Own Words I have a copy of the article from Rolling Stone magazine and this is what Melissa had to say in regard to touring: "I hope amazing things come from this record (YIA)" she says. "I want to do a stadium tour in the next few years. I don't know of any female rock musician who has done one. That's a big goal of mine." There it is! I'm still not sure what she means as other people have said, there have been woman rockers who have done stadium tours, Tina Turner for sure. Take care, Julie (& Olivier) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:25:33 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Venues and Stuff Jenniffer Smith wrote: >I expect that it will be a few more years before she tours >again. A few more years? One or two maybe... I'd be surprised if it was more than that. >She's about to finish a multi-year touring/recording >binge and she and Julie will have lil' Cypheridge to play with. I >can't imagine that they will suffer if ME stays home for >awhile. I think her career would definitely suffer if she took off that long, especially since YLS hasn't done that well. =-=-=<>=-=-= Marcy Kunst wrote: >I read somewhere something like that one of her >dreams in life has been to be the first female rock and roll musician to >tour the world playing in those big stadiums, etc. > >Do you think this tour qualifies? No... she's been playing arenas and large amphitheatres (10,000 - 20,000), but not stadiums (20,000+). I suppose that horror will have to wait for a while. =-=-=<>=-=-= Tina Chambers wrote: >Deb wrote: >>I'm surprised we haven't seen any CD boots of the YLS tour >>yet. > >There are several European ones....or were you referring to U.S. only? I wasn't actually, but looking back at some notes I've stored, I see that there are 4 or 5 from early in the year that I'd forgotten about. "Witch Queen of Cologne" seems so long ago that I thought it was from the YIA tour! And I was actually the first to mention "Valentine's Day" on the list, having read about it in ICE... Maybe this will be the motivation I need to get the boot list updated. >Sue wrote: >>Anyone else have any comments and or suggestions? I thought >>that many of you wnated a list t-shirt... > >*MORE* shirts????? (heaving highly exaggerated sigh) These are t-shirts, though. I know I'm more likely to wear a t-shirt than a bowling shirt, and I'm sure I'm not (ahem) the only one. =-=-=<>=-=-= Virginia Siskavich wrote: >I think that had Melissa looked Jewel up and down...and/or glanced >down her shirt, it was totally human. I think that we are tearing >this whole thing apart for no real reason...like gossiping old >ladies. I agree completely. I feel like I'm reading the Enquirer or something. =-=-=<>=-=-= Toni Robinson wrote: >Can't wait to buy the book..don't worry Joyce, >I'll still buy yours :-) Please do! I can vouch for all of the hard work Joyce has put in on her MLE bio, I know it will be excellent! There are only a few people who know more about MLE than I do, and Joyce just *might* be one of them. :) >I do not prefer her accoustic >sound to her rock-the-house-go-crazy concert sound. But the two didn't used to be exclusive! She used to be able to rock the house and go crazy acoustically! -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-20 20:18 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I put my three cents in, because history owes me one" - Ani DiFranco, "God's Country" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:06:00 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Bryan Adams Single Wanted I have the following items available for trade for the Bryan Adams "Star" single with the MLE duet: "Nowhere to Go" UK CD-single --> poster --> NtG remix --> BMSW with Joan Osborne (from DUETS) --> NtG live --> LtWID live "If I Wanted To" US CD-single --> NtG remix --> CTMW live --> BMSW live --> LtWID live "I Want to Come Over" CD single (German?) --> IWtCO --> LMG live --> MBCFM live If you can help me out, please reply privately. -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 18:07:54 -0800 From: "J. Croft" Subject: show/city help needed, 11/25 - 11/30 Hi Everyone, Myself and four friends are going to be caravaning to 5 Melissa shows next week, including Amarillo, El Paso, Albuquerque, Salt Lake, and Denver. Being that we hail from the two coasts respectively, me from WA, the others from MA, we're tackling some unfamiliar territory. If anyone that lives in or near these cities could drop me a note I'd sure appreciate it... getting information regarding directions to venues, show times, and things to do in the area would be most helpful. I've got the '97 Atlas but that'll only get me so far! Thanks in advance. All the best, Jib * JL Jiblet Croft * jiblet@pretenders.org * http://www.pretenders.org * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:18:13 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Melissa's Own Words Thanks for the quote Julie and I do remember reading it in Rolling Stone! As for women rockers, Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart have done stadiums, of course as Heart with men in the group. The biggest was the California Jam back in 1978. I don't have the exact number of folks who attended but as I remember it, maybe 100,000+ over 3 days. Heart was on the ARENA ROCK tours, as other groups were in the late '70, '80's and even the early '90's, playing to 8,000 to 90,000 in any give arena or stadium. Don't forget Pat Benatar in the early '80's. She played some pretty big places. The Go Go's did too in their short career. They had 2 stadium/Arena tours...'82 and then in '83 before they broke up! I know Joan Jett has played some stadiums and arenas, but I don't believe she was the headliner. She was 2nd on a bill that Headlined the Police in '83 (their last tour). On that stadium tour was featured Madness and a little unknown band from Athens, GA at playe donly 5 songs...REM! We use to have a stadium here in Philly, JFK Stadium, where LIVE AID was in '85 (and the above Police concert was). Outdoor concerts held 110,000 in that old rickedy place. It got comdemed in '89 right before the Stones were to play there. The site is now the home of the Corestates Center. Francie (a concert goer since 1978) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:42:03 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Philly Pub Crawl Web Pics For anyone interested there are now a few shots from the Philly Pub Crawl available for viewing on my web site. There are pictures of such infamous listers as: SueD(Currently in the middle of her cross-country tour), Beth Durff(THDCM,ask Beth to explain if you don't understand the acronym), Randy(Stopped in while out on her cross-country run), Francie(aka:swimfishie) and lil ol shy, demure me. For those new to the list there are also some shots from other List gatherings and many other popular list names. So navigate down to "My favorite places" and jump to some of our gatherings. Enjoy everyone, Shirl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:06:51 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Memphis gathering Hi! We are going to be gathering at BB Kings on Beale St. at 4pm Saturday before the Memphis show...and rumor has it we are going to have some so-called Honda-drivin' chick magnet in tow (although the Honda's supposedly being ditched in Maryland on Friday!) ;) At the concert, we will be the ones with signs that address any of the following: the taxi (hopefully we can ressurect that one from the Virginia show) AUK, SP and/or others, and we'll be wearing the pink glow sticks. AND, happy to report, we will NOT be flinging articles of clothing or our bodies up on stage. :) (well, unless Melissa....oh never mind!) Jill ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 20 Nov 1996 - Special issue *************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Thu Nov 21 00:00:51 1996 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:00:13 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 20 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:07:11 -0600 From: tcholewa Subject: A FEW THINGS! Hi all...how is everyone this WONDERFUL November? Well, First of all...TEI...E-MAIL MA AGAIN! I lost your address! Ok...ELLEN..I have been watching the show lately..and every episode she is revealing a little more and more about her sexuality. I do think the " NEWS" will come out real soon. What do you all think? Melissa and Julie look SO much in love...I think the arrival of their new baby will be a wonderful and joyful event..Who cares what the simple minded think..As long as they are happy, I think the child will be. The holidays are coming and I think we should all thank whomever you as a person choose, for all of the gifts of life we all receive! Whether you are Gay, Lesbian, Straight, or Bisexual...Give thanks for life! OK..I am off the SOAPBOX for now! See you all SOON! Love and kisses LAURA P.S. TEI..E_MAIL ME! ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 20 Nov 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Fri Nov 22 00:01:01 1996 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:00:21 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 20 Nov 1996 to 21 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 03:20:57 -0500 From: SbHarvick at aol Subject: Memphis Hi Everyone, Just wanted to let everyone who is going to Memphis for the concert this Saturday know that there will be a pre-show gathering at BB King's on Beale Street at 4 pm. There will be some AOL'ers as well as MElisters there, so it should be a good time. To all of you who are also taking a "road trip" for this one, drive safely. Hope to see you there, Susie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:13:39 -0500 From: Shirley Hoffman Subject: Re: Philly Pub Crawl Web Pics Ooopps, guess it would help if I provided the URL: http://www.kutztown.edu/staff/lmf1/sah On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Shirley Hoffman wrote: > For anyone interested there are now a few shots from the Philly Pub Crawl > available for viewing on my web site. Enjoy, Shirl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:29:27 -0500 From: Toni Robinson Subject: Bios & acoustics Joyce said: >Subject: Bios, Bios, Bios.... >>Toni Robinson said of the Chris Nickson biography: >> Can't wait to buy the >>book..don't worry Joyce, I'll still buy yours :-)<< >LOL! Hey, you're not a real fan (tm) unless you buy 'em both. ;-) >Later, y'all, >Joyce Haha..shhhh don't tell anyone but my official real fan (tm) status may be in jeopardy..I *still* haven't finished watching Storytellers Deb said: >But the two didn't used to be exclusive! She used to be able to rock the >house and go crazy acoustically! Hmm..but its kinda hard for me to see that since my experience has been different. Also, hearing older acoustic boots affect me the same way..I like the band. I like hearing the acoustic break from the band..but wouldn't the shows I've attended to have been all acoustic. I know, if I'd been there I'd surely see it differently ;-) Toni (going back to bed after dealing with a broken network all night) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 08:34:14 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: "Be On Your Way" Mornig Melisters! Well, the Poohster awoke to about three inches of snow all about the cave this morning. I imagine it surprised alot more people than just I! Locked in the hubs and made the trek to work. I know this is the last week of classes at our college and all the kids will be on their way home for the holidays so I just thought I would extend warm wishes and happy hearts to those of you who are only with us through your schools. I hope that your time spent at home willbe a happy time and that soon you will be back posting with us. We will miss you one and all. If you believe in the holidays or not, this is a good time to simply offer up a hand to those less fortunate. Even if it means dropping off a can of food at your local grocery store. You might think it is not much but to someone who hasn't had a green bean in 6 months it is alot! Give a needy child a pair of gloves or a warm winter hat and the smile you get in return will warm your heart for the rest of your life trust me on this one. See a child looking in a toy store window and go in and tell the store owner to give them a toy and bill you for it. That look on that childs face as you watch from the ailse over will stay in your memory when you are sitting in your rocking chair feeling lost and all alone and you will have to feel warm all over. And if you know of a needy family in your neighborhood, a box of groceries left on the door step will bring joy and hope for years to come. Remember: Little things do mean alot. So, "Be On Your Way" stay warm and return to us knowing that you are in our hearts and we wish you well! Sincerely, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:56:57 UT From: Tracy Minter Subject: Yesterday's posts. WRT the arena/large venues. I saw the Charlotte show from mezzanine at the back of the arena, and was basically behind ME and band when she did the small stage show. I would much rather see her back and the band from that close for a whole show than keep looking at the screen from afar. Although the sound was great and the show wonderful, I had to keep reminding myself that it was real, and I wasn't just watching another tv show. I saw a lot of shows at an indoor football field when I was in college, and basically got tired of such large venues. Other than ME, I wouldn't go see a large arena show unless I got floor tickets. *********** Doug said about Ellen moving time slots: >I don't think the move necessarily means that Ellen will come out. >It's more likely that Ellen is losing ratings to The Nanny. CBS >hasn't got any strong shows from 9-11 on Wednesdays and NBC has Men >Behaving Badly at 9:30 (which is the worst show on tv this fall!) I've been hoping they would move the time slot. None of the shows have been able to make top 20 against each other. One of them had to move, and I guess Disney blinked first. I also think the reason they let the lesbian story leak (IMO) is because they wanted to put extra pressure on Disney/abc to forgo nixing the story line. If it was all done only behind the scenes, it would be much easier for them to say no. This way, with all the hype generated, its that much harder to back down. Where is Drew Carey going? ********** Kelley at AOL (and others) was discussing shepherding dogs.... >They love to be busy. They herd my 6 yr old son (he can't leave the yard with them around). >They also love to perform tricks (fetching, agility type activities etc.) Funny, my in-laws have two Australian Terriers (one highly neurotic) and a Rat Dog (wait, I think thats a Jack Russell Terrier?). When running in the fields, the rat dog herds the two terriers towards the fence by nipping at their heels and basically keeps them in line. I thought that was hilarious. ************* Virginia Siskavich wrote: >I think that had Melissa looked Jewel up and down...and/or glanced >down her shirt, it was totally human. I think that we are tearing >this whole thing apart for no real reason...like gossiping old >ladies. I agree. Everyone has a right to their opinions, though. T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:06:14 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: SESAME STREET Hello everyone, Just had to hurry and write about Melissa's debut on Sesame Street. I thought it was the most endearing thing I've ever seen her do. I couldn't stop smiling while watching her. "No one else can spelluh a neat word like umbrella!" That's a class line. Did she write the all the words for this, does anybody know? I'm sure she did. Anyways, once again she topped herself! Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 11:57:21 -0500 From: Lisa Eidel Subject: Sesame Street, MELTS Hi everyone! In rereading some of the old digests I have I now realize that I was probably the one who screwed up the dates that Melissa would be appearing on Sesame Street. I hope that when I posted that Melissa would be on Nov. 22nd (not the 21st) on TCI cable that I didn't screw anyone else up beside myself. I am very sorry if I did. Now, I was able to take an early lunch to run home and see the 11 a.m. broadcast of Sesame Street and there was Melissa singing about the letter "U". It has to be the cutest thing I have ever seen. I loved seeing her dance in between the two "arms" of the letter "U". I couldn't help but think of her becoming a mom. CJ - I loved your logo for the t-shirts but I have to agree that the lightning bolt does remind one of Flash Gordon. I do agree, however, that there should be some type of "electric" theme there to reflect the mailing list. I'm not sure what else could be used though. Also, what about the copyright for the ME key logo? Will this infringe on those rights? Take care all, Lisa E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:34:35 -0500 From: Imagine338@AOL.COM Subject: sesame street Hi everyone!! Just thought i would delurk long enough to tell everyone that Melissa sang about the letter "U" on Sesame Street today. she sang for about 2 min. I have it on tape so if anyone would like to have a copy please email me. .......Ok back to my corner of the world..... Everyone have a nice day and a nice weekend coming up.......if you are on the east coast ......... Stay Warm !!!!!!!! later Imagine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:39:32 -0500 From: "Christina M. Kougher" Subject: Re: SESAME STREET I agree it was great!!!! She looked so cute dancing around with the U !!! It aired here in the Detroit area at 9am and is on again at 1pm. So I'm gonna go watch it again!!!! Later.....Tina ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:39:52 -0500 From: "Christina M. Kougher" Subject: Paula Cole in MI(NMEC) Just wanted to let everyone know that Paula Cole will be at St. Andrews Hall in Detriot on 12.5 ! If anyone plans on going let me know this way we could meet up and have our own little cheering section!!! Also she'll be performing with the Barenaked Ladies at the Fox on 12.26 ! See you there! Tina ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:39:59 -0500 From: "Christina M. Kougher" Subject: Rosie show....NMEC Did anyone happen to tape last Friday's Rosie show? (11.15) At the end of the show she made a phone call to Madonna to talk about the baby and I need to see it!!! See, I'm a huge Madonna fan too! If anyone could help me,maybe we could work out a trade or $! Please email me with any info!!! Thanks....Tina ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 12:43:04 -0500 From: Lori Rehfeldt Subject: Shinitzed out... Don't ask me what that means...if I knew I would not have written it. I tried my hardest to get lost in Germany, but I kept finding folks who knew I was lost and kept helping me find my way home. Then one person in German, well in English who happened to be German on German soil asked me if I ever mirced. I told them I have my own private room called the ELLEN CHAT ROOM where everyone interested in Ellen err Lori Ellen that is--can listen or join in as we talk about Ellen...so far it's only been yours truly or yours lying depending on my mood. I keep running into Cancers...what does this mean...oh, back to my story. Well, I did find out that World War II is over. Also, Holland is not in Denmark. Okay, back in 1973 I graduated from St. Patrick's School in Smithtown New York, and like Sister Edith scared me soooo, and I have a history/geography mental block. Okay, the prozac does help a bit. BUT BACK TO MY STORY...where was I--oh yeah in Denmark...I know I was on the train trying to get back to Kaiserslautern to watch Air Force Network channel to see ELLEN...well, guess what? Ellen is not on AFN or AFRTS or whatever they call themselves in tv land. SO, there I was stranded from ELLEN, stranded a fool...what could I do...Monday at school (sorry, I just sang an obscure version of Grease...not the stuff behind the stove...) So, where was I? Oh yeah, lost in Germany. You do know they don't speak english...when they do they have an accent...and they kept asking me if I knew Rosie O'Donnell...just because I grew up on LONGGGGGGGisland. I dunno. I told them that I too was a latent German since my last name REHFELDT...I did wonder what side of the war my family fought only to find out that the Rehfeldts fought with the Scottish Army although, they were not Scottish...I think it was a skirt fetish. I still like looking under skirts. It's a REHFELDT or Ellen thing. Anyway, the war ended, however, just read the paper...I don't work for the State Department, but I had no problem sharing my two cents with the germans...like bless my home land forever, and where can I find Julie Andrews, so I can sing a few songs like, "Let's start from the very beginning...you know doe a deer a REHFELDT DEER...Rehfeldt actually means Deer Field in German. The Germans kept wondering how I can be a field of deers...Well, I told them if Kevin Costner could have a field of dreams, then I Lori Ellen Rehfeldt can be a field of deers. Just don't get Santa in the picture...I'm against my deer hauling Santa's presents personally I think the guy should use Federal Express...so what am I trying to say... Well, the last time I wrote, I was lost in a taxi with Ellen and Melissa Etheridge and I was wondering where we went from there. Oh, I have a bootleg of Melissa Etheridge singing SANTA CLAUSE IS COMING TO TOWN AND ELLEN ISN'T INVITED...JUST LORI ELLEN...really. Well, hope all are doing well. I'll have to get over my cold, find myself and be all that I can be... Lori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:04:08 -0500 From: CJ Subject: Re: Ellen Time slot change Doug wrote: >I don't think the move necessarily means that Ellen will come out. >It's more likely that Ellen is losing ratings to the Nanny. FYI The time slot change was justified by ABC saying that 9:30 was a more appropriate time slot in which to explore more adult oriented themes. Although, they may also justbe taking advantage of the momentum stirred up this past summer. In a related area, they announced moving Grace Under Fire to 8:00 instead of it's current slot. CJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:08:50 -0500 From: CJ Subject: Re: MELTS Logo All criticisms are welcome, fellas, but only if they are constructive. It's okay to not like something, but ya gotta back it up with "why" or even better, some suggestions to change it! Keep 'em coming! CJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 13:26:19 EST From: DOUG Subject: Re: MELTS Logo CJ wrote: ***All criticisms are welcome, fellas, but only if they are constructive. ***It's okay to not like something, but ya gotta back it up with "why" or ***even better, some suggestions to change it! uhhhmm....I did back it up with a why. It is too Flash Gordon or Shazam. I didn't mention my concern about the copyright stuff but someone else has brought that up. so there ya go. Do I need to get more involved than that? Doug ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:10:22 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: Memphis Shirl wrote: >For anyone interested there are now a few shots from the Philly Pub Crawl >available for viewing on my web site. There are pictures of such >infamous listers as: SueD(Currently in the middle of her cross-country tour), >Beth Durff(THDCM,ask Beth to explain if you don't understand the >acronym), Oh, please don't..... >------------------------------ Jill wrote regarding Memphis: >>We are going to be gathering at BB Kings on Beale St. at 4pm Saturday before the Memphis show...and rumor has it we are going to have some so-called Honda-drivin' chick magnet in tow (although the Honda's supposedly being ditched in Maryland on Friday!) ;) Yeah well, that's cause the other two are already gf's, and we wouldn't want to start a riot! And my car does not get DITCHED! Sometimes it gets "left" - but never ditched (sounding like I have a real thing for this car)! Susie from St. Louis and her gang will be hooking up with us at 4pm also.... so any other Melisters in the area are welcome too!!!! Also, I heard about a ladies club called WKRB that might be cool for post-concert activities.... It's a thought.... See ya'll in Memphis! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:37:19 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: Memphis again... just noticed that Jill wrote regarding Memphis: >happy to report, we will NOT be flinging our bodies up on stage. :) >(well, unless Melissa....oh never mind!) speak for yourself !!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:15:42 -0600 From: Patty Wilcox Subject: NMEC: Ani Hits News Stand For those Ani DeFranco fans lurking in our midst, check out the new issue of Ms. magazine. Ani is gracing the cover. Keep Rockin' ! The Lone Wrangler ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:18:49 GMT From: Maggie at avalon Subject: Re: NMEC: Ani Hits News Stand At 02:15 PM 11/21/96 -0600, you wrote: >For those Ani DeFranco fans lurking in our midst, check out the new issue of >Ms. magazine. Ani is gracing the cover. And she was on Conan O'Brian's show last night. Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:59:43 -0500 From: Kathy at aol Subject: Re: One more Jewel... O.K., maybe talking about Jewel and Melissa is a little like old ladies gossiping, but isn't that a lot of what the list is made up of? Rumors, opinions, conjecture, etc.. As long as it's all in fun, which I've noticed this list usually is (what a group of nice people. I've learned a lot from you all.), I don't see the harm in talking about something a few of us picked up on during one of Melissa's highly visible performances. I personally got a real kick out of it. Hmmmm.....maybe I need to get a real life! Take care ya' all, Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:10:06 -0500 From: Ruben Boiardi Subject: MELTS: I like the Flesh Gordon thing Hi, Just my 2 cents on the logo. I like it, although I agree it looks a little comic-booky (is that a word?) I think it's pretty cool. Besides, didn't Elvis also use a lightning bolt? ruben ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:38:48 -0800 From: velt1682 Subject: Sesame Street Good afternoon! I'm in a pleasant mood today after seeing Melissa on Sesame Street this morning (and because I slept for 4 hours after the show). I really enjoyed the new lyrics, and of course seeing Melissa, but I feel the need to comment on her clothes. I have been fairly quiet on the subject of her clothing choices, and it was great to see her in a t-shirt and jeans and jacket outfit this morning, but the color of the t-shirt and jeans!!! Yikes! They reminded me of an outfit I used to wear in elementary school (which was in the early eighties). Oh well, at least she looked as if she was having fun dancing with that U, and it was a nice thing to wake up to (even if I got teased by one of my dorm mates about watching Sesame Street in college). Well, back to school. Kirstin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 18:45:44 -0500 From: Anne Haines Subject: Sesame Street! I just have to say that I'm very grateful for this list... without y'all, I would not have known about MLE on Sesame Street this morning. I just had a chance to watch the tape... *LOL*!! Melissa was so cute dancing with that giant orange letter U that I almost peed my pants. :) Both MLE and U looked like they were having a great time. And I remembered all over again why I like her so much. Anybody know if she wrote those lyrics herself? I'm guessing she did... who else would rhyme "unfair" with "underwear"? :D Somebody needs to bring a giant letter U to one of her upcoming concerts, especially now that the giant window frame thing has been done to death. BTW, I know I owe email to several people on this list... I sowwy... *hangs head in guilt* I won't be getting to it tonight though, 'cause I am going out to hear Tuck & Patti play. Whee! (They're a wonderful jazz/pop guitar/vocal duo... two of the most talented musicians I've ever been privileged to see.) This message was brought to you by the letter A... which stands for... Anne in Indiana (who is very glad that Elmo isn't scared of clowns anymore!) "No one else can spell a / A neat word like umbrella / Like the way U do" - Melissa Etheridge, getting all passionate about the letter U (Sesame Street 11-21-96) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~ahaines ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:06:40 -0500 From: Sooz911@AOL.COM Subject: SesaME Street Melissa was great on Sesame Street!! It was worth the 'rolling eye' looks I got from my roommate when I told him I needed the TV Guide so I could figure out when to tape Sesame Street today. I just wish she had sung with Elmo. He's my favorite! Susan (now very jealous of the letter "U") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:15:09 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: Sesame Street Hi Folks, Well, it should be happening right now. Melissa should be on Sesame Street today. I recording it and I can't wait to go home and see it. I wonder who she'll be talking too. Maybe Grover, that furry little guy, maybe Oscar, that would be funny. Carol ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:33:03 -0500 From: Helen Wilson Subject: Re: A Few Things Hi, I enjoyed your email. It is so wonderful to know that there are open minded, loving people out there in cyberland. Just wanted you to know it was appreciated. I normally lurk because I don't have a way with words like some people do. However, I had a couple of glasses of wine tonight and felt daring . Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, especially to Melissa and Julie. Keep it precious. TPeace a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:26:14 -0400 From: Tegan Godwin Subject: Seasame Street I just watched the Seasame Street episode featuring Melissa. I thought it was wonderful. It looked like she had alot of fun. The lyrics were funny too. It really shows her height of 5'3". She looked so small compared to the letter "U". I'm going to have to record the song on a cassette and send it to some children I know. :) My countdown has started for CA. :) Can't wait. ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 20 Nov 1996 to 21 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Fri Nov 22 18:44:48 1996 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:44:09 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 21 Nov 1996 to 22 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:45:38 -0500 From: Anne Haines Subject: Like The Letter "U" (lyrics) Yes, I am obsessive enough to have transcribed these. :) Enjoy! -Anne --------------------------------------------------------------- Is it so hard To Understand I love U 'Cause no other letter Looks and sounds like U do Oh I love your "uh" sound And have I ever told U That I'd be Upset If U left the alphabet That's why I hold U Hold U Like I do U stand for Understanding For Up and Undemanding And you stand for Underwear For Ugly and Unfair And I don't know any letter Who makes the "uh" sound better Than the letter U I love the "uh" sound Of the letter U Ooh and I want the "uh" sound Of the letter U Oh I need the "uh" sound Of the letter U That's why I ache That's why I ache I ache Oh I ache Just to hold U Hold U Like I do No one else begins Uptown No one starts off Upside-down No one else begins Unable, Uncertain or Unstable No one else can spell a A neat word like Umbrella Like the way U do Like the way U do Nobody makes the "uh" sound Like the way U do Oh gimme that "uh" sound C'mon Like the way U do Like the way U do Like the way U do ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:04:37 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: "U"S Magazine... =) Just a little not to tell you, in case you didn't know... There is a great picture of Melissa and Julie in the newest issue of US Magazine. Nicole Kidman is on the cover... It's got a little caption: "I used to be in a garage band," said Melissa Etheridge with pregnant life partner Julie Cypher. "Chick Hammersmith and the Wranglers. I wasn't Chuck." It's on page 34 and Julie is glowing and Melissa looks so happy... Worth checking out... I saw it after I bought the magazine... =) Saw Sesame Street today... =) Melissa looked so darn cute I was smiling for the whole day! =) I love that woman... =) Hope everyone had a great weekend... Peace, Kiva ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 01:17:22 -0500 From: Karrie Bowen Subject: how to get to sesaME street Hey everyone! Did anyone notice that missy lou looks so dinky compared to that giant letter U? My roommate and I were just discussing the fact that it was so odd seeing melissa jamming with a 6 foot letter U on TV! I thought the segment was so awesome....I can't wait to make a copy of the tape for my godchild.....she already sits in her carseat and screams "Turn It Up!" when I play "CTMW". She loves MLE. I think this would be a great sto stocking stuffer for her! A MLE kid's song, all for her own!! Peace- Karrie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:08:50 +0100 From: Holger Wahlen Subject: Song times: printed vs. real I recently discovered that there are two considerable mistakes in the printed song lengths for B&C. YUTLTD is about a minute longer than "4:33", so I tend to believe that it should be "5:33" and someone just made a typo. I'm clueless about the origin of the other one, though, since RS4/16 is in the area of about 7:05 instead of "6:40". Does anybody have an idea how something like that happens? Take care, have fun, Holger -- "The motives of women are so inscrutable. ... How can you build on such a quicksand? Their most trivial action may mean volumes, or their most extraordinary conduct may depend upon a hairpin or a curling-tongs."--Sherlock Holmes ("The Second Stain") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:43:17 +0100 From: Yvonne Hendricks Subject: Melissa Airplay on 3 FM Marcel wrote: <> Well Marcel, I think that she hardly gets any airplay at all in Holland.. Or to my taste too little anyway. <> Well IMHO I think that at least half who went to that concerts was like there for Melissa and no other reason. I know I was. Do ya know why she didn't come back and do a song with Brian. I thought she would (it was the reason why I stayed all through Brians concert) but she didn't... I was actually a bit disappointed. So anyway have to get back to work.. See ya. Many Holiday greetings from Yvonne (I know I'm a bit early, but ya can't start soon enough, can't ya. Ciao Bella, Bello (sounds like a dogs name but anyway) Have a nice weekend y'all Yvonne Hendricks TNO-TPD-TU Instrumentatie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:22:20 +0100 From: Thomas Rudolph Subject: Re: "Be On Your Way" POOH, this time you really moved me. Thank you for your words. I dunno why it just happened now. There are these special days ... does anybody know ? ('course, rethorical question) Was trying out some new chords a good friend sent me ... was having a going-on-for-hours-long-distance-phone-call last night and didn't care for the charges. Sitting in front of the screen in the morning, hands are still cold from the steering wheel and I'm trying to warm them up at the coffee mug ... actually one of the few of my problems to stay winter, no real problems I mean. But gives me a basic feeling of the contrast between cold and warm. And all of a sudden I'm open for stuff like this. Strange... Why do I have the feeling you know so well what you are talking about ? Sorry, I'm babbling. Take care all you out in the cold. Thomas (looking forward to the all-weekend guitar-workshop, whooha !) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:32:11 -0800 From: Marleen Niekel Subject: Veronica TV-guide... and Lori??? (SMEC) Hi everyone, Just wanted to let all the Dutchies out here know, that in the latest issue of the Veronica TV-guide, there's a little bit mentioned about Melissa and Julie's pregnancy (including a nice, but very small picture of them both). Lori Rehfeldt wrote: > Well, the last time I wrote, I was lost in a taxi with Ellen and > Melissa Etheridge and I was wondering where we went from there. Taxi-story??? Lori??? Is this you??? Someone named Lori mentioned this taxi-story to me. So it must be you??? You must the one I met at the dutch record-show in Utrecht (you were there with Anneke). And I even dared to ask if you were a lurker;-) OOPS!!! Back to lurking Marleen (who's very jealous of all the people that saw Melissa at sesame street) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 07:58:04 -0500 From: Subject: MELTS & Philly Pub Crawling I just popped in to visit the first pass on the MELTs logo. The key logo and white electronic looking lettering of MELISTERS are great! The lightning bolt just doesn't feel right. Is it possible to get a graphic/clipart image of a computer terminal to put in there instead? I think that would help people (including those of us with sometimes addled brains) to recognise the link with a computer/internet discussion group. Also, I love the combination of purple and black but we have to be careful since both are basically dark colors. The combination tends to blend together so that contrast is lost and along with that information. Would it be too tacky or nondescript to have a gray t-shirt? Just some thoughts. Now as to the Philly Pub Crawl, I will try and post later today with all of the details, nastiness, quotes, etc. You participants have not escaped unscathed.... Oh and Francie, I hope Trevor is feeling up to his oats. He is a little doll and I hate to see both you and him feeling down. My buddy Patches and I will be cuddling up and wishing good thoughts your way! Take care, SueD ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:11:53 -0500 From: Mary Fiedorczyk Subject: MELISTER Tee's Hi, All!! just LOVE the idea of the lister tee...great design in the works! Tho I have No..absolutly NO artistic talents, I do have an imagination....how about something with a satillite projecting the ME logo. Could get the tech part across that way as well as the logo. Ive always been fond of the original, w/o the key on the bottom as that seems exclusive of YLS and not of her loder stuff. Just a thought! Keep up the great work..I for one appreciate it sincerly!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:32:03 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: got the joke... pretty funny !!! where the hell do you find all this stuff probably have people sending you stuff like me I have soooo much work to do. I might take off work next Tuesday because I have a BIG TIME paper due Wednesday that is a very important part of my grade. I can't believe you've been getting snow. We haven't gotten even a flurry yet - which is good because my lawnmower is STILL outside.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:41:25 -0500 From: Donk Subject: UUUUU sound I'm so glad U is a part of our alphabet!... aren't U? Making the UUUU sound all the way to Memphis and back, Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 07:03:29 -0800 From: Kimberly Subject: Stateline Rumour Hi all, A local L.A. station, K-BIG 104.3 announced yesterday that Melissa will be appearing Tuesday, December 10 at the Primadonna Hotel & Casino in Stateline, Nevada. I took this news with a grain of salt as they are notorious for getting their info messed up. However, this morning my alarm woke me up with Nowhere to Go (it's gonna be a good day even w/the rain!), and then announced it AGAIN. Okay, they may mess up once . . . but twice? Take care and have a great weekend, Kym ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 08:01:59 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Re: Stateline Rumour On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Kimberly wrote: > A local L.A. station, K-BIG 104.3 announced yesterday that Melissa will be > appearing Tuesday, December 10 at the Primadonna Hotel & Casino in > Stateline, Nevada. I took this news with a grain of salt as they are > notorious for getting their info messed up. I heard the same news from another source. Plus, there's a big roller coaster at Stateline. Allison "I don't deserve your banana." edgy@netcom.com --Chip Rhodes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:28:32 -0600 From: "D. Caffrey" Subject: Memphis concert Hello fellow listers! I MIGHT possibly have an extra ticket to the Memphis show Saturday night. I am not for sure yet, so I even hate to post this message. But, I am getting ready to leave for work & I don't have internet access there so I thought this would give people a chance to reply. My friend is checking right now to see if she can get off work, IF she can't I will have an extra ticket. If anyone is interested, please e-mail me. I'm sorry I can't say for sure if this ticket is available or not. If my friend can get out of work it won't be available. Right now, everything is up in the air. I won't be able to reply until I get home from work & by then I will know if I have an extra ticket or not. I just wanted to give people a chance to respond IN CASE I do happen to have an extra ticket. I'll know more later & let those who are interested know if it's available or not. Well, I'm rambling & I better get to work. Diane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:58:33 -0800 From: Tim Dunker Subject: Re: Another Dutchman (not flying) Hi there, Willem Jan Keur wrote on Nov. 20th about the Ahoy venue: >Mmmm, there is only enough room for 8,000 people, that is 16,000 hands (hi >hi)I am not from Holland so I don`t know alot about your venues. But in this case there were several people I talked to before and after the show who told me of about 10.000 in the crowd. Productionmanager,tour- manager, bandmembers, crewmembers and last but not least Melissa herselfe. So 10.000 was the magic number that day and thats all I have been told. Bye Tim Dunker Count down says 15 days left and than "I will come over" ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 10:14:55 -0800 From: Tami Cowart Subject: Sesame Street - OH NO!!! Well, this is what I get for ignoring this list for the last couple of days, I completely forget about Melissa's debut on Sesame Street!!! Okay, I'm down on my knees, crawling and begging...please, please, please... Is there a kind, understanding, completely empathetic soul out there who would be willing to make me a copy of their tape??? I will do anything, pay anything....really I will. =P Please email me privately... Oh, and hey Lori....so where's my email for this morning, huh hon ??? =) take care all, tami -- T A M I J. C O W A R T EMPLOYEE COMMUNICATIONS Silicon Graphics Inc. ___________________________________________________________ i believe that we can fly on the wings that we create ~ mle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:47:28 -0500 From: Lisa M Mahoski Subject: CAN ANYONE HELP I missed the broadcast of seaseme Street and Story Tellers because i had the wrong dates. If anyone can help me i would really appreciate it. if you can just email me... I AM VERY UPSET, ABOUT MISSING THIS.... :( LISA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 11:06:53 -0800 From: John Miller Subject: Re: CAN ANYONE HELP Whew! I've been drowning in work for the last two weeks, but I'm coming up for a brief breath (gasp!) of air. Lisa M Mahoski lamented: >I missed the broadcast of seaseme Street and Story Tellers because i had >the wrong dates. If anyone can help me i would really appreciate it. if >you can just email me... I AM VERY UPSET, ABOUT MISSING THIS.... :( For Lisa and others who missed these MLE appearances: 1. Storytellers is being re-broadcast on VH-1, Sunday, Nov 24, 10:00pm EST. 2. You may still have a chance to see Sesame Street. Not all local PBS stations played the Melissa episode of Sesame Street yesterday... our primary San Francisco PBS station played an episode "sponsored by the letter F and the number 0", which was not the episode with Melissa (she does the letter 'U')... I'm taping it each day until our local PBS station catches up with the rest of the country. 3. Another MElister and I have been talking privately about compiling a tape of several Melissa TV appearances, similar to (but different from) Elise's excellent two-tape compilation from last year. While we have not finalized the contents, Storytellers and Sesame Street will be included, as well as some other as-yet-undetermined videos. We are both extremely busy, and I doubt I would have the compilation completed until *after* the December holidays, but when the compilation is completed I will announce it on this mailing-list. John Miller - sinking back into the depths (blub blub blub) San Jose CA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:12:11 -0600 From: Janis Delmonte Subject: No MLE on Sesame Street Yet John Miller wrote: > Not all local PBS stations played the Melissa episode of Sesame Street > yesterday... our primary San Francisco PBS station played an episode > "sponsored by the letter F and the number 0", which was not the episode > with Melissa (she does the letter 'U')... I'm taping it each day until > our local PBS station catches up with the rest of the country. Ditto here in Dallas. I was very disappointed to find yesterdays Sesame Street featuring the letters 'G' and 'J'. But I am taping it every day now. So there may indeed still be time for those who missed it. -Janis ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:12:41 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: MLE on Sesame Street HELP!!!! I missed MLE on Sesame Street because of the wrong date. I saw Friday and didn't even look at the date. Could someone please help me..I would owe someone big...if anyone can help me please email me at: swhitfie@wpo.hcc.com...I'll send you money or a tape or whatever...I just desperately need it...I plan to make a digital copy of it(avi format), but of course I have to have a VHS tape of it first... :-( Thanks, Sonya ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:17:26 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: MLE on Sesame Street HELP!!!! I missed MLE on Sesame Street because of the wrong date. I saw Friday and didn't even look at the date. Could someone please help me..I would owe someone big...if anyone can help me please email me at: swhitfie@wpo.hcc.com...I'll send you money or a tape or whatever...I just desperately need it...I plan to make a digital copy of it(avi format), but of course I have to have a VHS tape of it first... I'm very unhappy I missed it...Please let me know if you can Help...:-( Thanks, Sonya ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:03:12 -0500 From: Michelle Partin Subject: paula cole, U hey peoples, i am also going to paula's show but on 12/8 here in portland, anybody else going?? it looks like my "lame" friends can't spare the change to go see her, they don't have any idea what there missing!!!! ok, well, 1 or 2 of them have to work, but.....anyway, i agree it would be neat-o to get a cheering session together. (ive seen some pretty quiet shows at the alladden (sp). tina, you are so lucky to see her with the barenaked ladies, they are soooooo much fun to see!! the day after christmas, what a cool gift!! SS: i was thinking about getting a sign that said "can you tell me how to get...." and another saying "how to get to sesame street...?" and also having a big red foam U to hold up. i think it would really make her smile. hugs and take care, michelle how many are coming to the port. (honda driving babe) gathering?? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:14:50 -0500 From: Subject: The final say on Philly (NMEC) I don't know why everyone in the crowd is so paranoid, I only jotted down a few remarks for memory's sake...the reports so far have made out that the evening was as pristine as the driven snow. Now, you all know that is not a possibility with a crowd of MEListers including Beth Durff (HDCM), Shirl, Francie, Randy, and myself. As we traversed the streets of Philly, Shirl got pretty excited when invited to "throw a leg over this". I don't think she really knew I was referring to a nasty ole Harley parked in the street, she just seemed willing to offer up that leg. I guess that got her ready for Sam Adams as when we got there Shirl was reaching to undo her overalls in an attempt to get more comfortable. Am I not right gang? Not to be out done, Beth was offering up the phrase "Me So Horny" and then innocently questioning whether that was a MLE song lyric....nice try! After being seated in the rowdy section of the brew house, the management decided to keep a close eye on all of us. Heaven only knows why with Francie's tanNED breasts, Shirl squirming out of her coveralls, and Beth being so horny! During casual conversation about radio DJs, Beth revealed that "I don't know if I could come on the air..." Now thats a challenge if I ever heard one. No self proclaimed HDCM should be let off the hook for this one folks! The next exchange came so fast and furiously that it was hard to establish who said what, but I tried! We were munching on appetizers when Shirl blurted out "Wow, these are some hot legs!" No one was sure exactly who she was referring to, but all were flattered. I think it was somewhere in the flurry that I was heard to remark, "Can we rip that off you?' speaking of Shirl's shirt. Must have been the Sam Adams in me...Randy chimed in with "I've had hotter". What a woman! We found out that not only does Francie have tanned breasts, she also prefers breasts. Nice to know if you ever encounter her in a dark alley. Poor Beth was previously kicked out of the girl scouts, she was trying to look up girl scout dresses. Preferences appear early in life, don't they? I don't know how this all got started, but Randy said to me that "You're going to spend all night taking it in and out..."Hmmm, I wish I knew what that was referring to! Then again, Randy also stated that "hers was a little pink". I guess that was in response to Beth saying she was charred on the outside, raw inside. They make quite a pair! I told Shirl she was cut off which sparked Francie's interest since she claimed not to know anything sexual was going on. Must have been those tanned breasts keeping her attention! Maybe that was what got Beth to ask "If I mix does that make me bi?" Oh my, we don't even want to go there. As we were packing up to head for Sisters, something got Shirl laughing and the shy demure one has quite the boisterous laugh. Randy emerged from the bathroom and was amazed that she could hear Shirl even in the toilet. Quite a reputation to live up to eh, Shirl? Sisters was packed, loads of women milling about and moving to the music which definitely had enough of a bass beat. We must have caught Randy by surprise as she blurted out "My God, we're surrounded by lesbians!" Although she eventually got over the shock, the dancing trio kept her enthralled all night! Yes, as Shirl previously mentioned Benny Hill in drag was wandering amongst us. He was quite a sight. Francie, however, adamantly stated that "I look better in a wig and dress than that guy!". Lets all be thankful for that, Francie! Randy caught me when I said, "I like being wet" to finish off the evening's events. No one escaped the pen of Brenda Starr but we all had an outrageously good time. I was sorry to see the night end. I'm sure everyone else was relieved to see the end of that little notebook though! There was no time to record in Texas, those women had the Tequila flying to fast (again). I wish all of our gatherings could last longer, there is never enough time to catch up on stories and make enough Mean People Suck Toasts. Have a great weekend, SueD ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:15:25 -0800 From: Carol Andredesz Subject: I wish I were that U Hi guys, I'm sure yu all saw Sesame Street. I thought it was absolutely delicious. I wish I that "U". The way she changed the song was hysterical, and I love the way she looks holding that awesome guitar. With the little holes all over. Ahhh..it was a damned statisfying Sesame Street, that's for sure. Well that's all. Have a nice weekend all. Carol ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 14:28:21 -0800 From: velt1682 Subject: Conan O'Brian Afternoon all!! After going through all of my messages today, I was suprised that no one commented on last night's Conan O'Brian. For all of you that missed it, Conan was showing celeberaty high school year books. Well, he showed one of ME (it looked like a fairly recent picture of her), the said something like "I guess she was on the cheerleading team because here she is forming a pyramid with her other cheerleaders" and proceded to show ME at the base of the pyramid looking up the skirt of the woman on top. Conan then joked about hoping that his mother was watching Tom Schnider that night instead, and then said that his mother probably wouldn't get it. Anyway, it was kind of funny, but not one of the better ones that night. Have a great day!!! Kirstin <--who seems to be increasingly comming out to make comments on the list. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:45:25 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Ani in Ms., MLE NEWSWEEK responses Patty Wilcox wrote: >For those Ani DeFranco fans lurking in our midst, check out the new issue of >Ms. magazine. Ani is gracing the cover. And it's a great article, well worth the cost of the mag. Speaking of magazines, get out this weekend and pick up the 11/25 NEWSWEEK, which has responses to the MLE cover. My favorite: "In my interaction with the children of my gay and lesbian friends, I can see it is indeed difficult to be the child of gay parents. But this is not because gays can't or don't provide a loving, stable home environment. Rather, it's the result of values taugh in straight homes to the classmates of our children -- hate, bigotry, and intolerance. Children of gay parents learn to be fearful and ashamed because they are routinely ridiculed and ostracized by their peers. I suggest that those who raise their voices the loudest in defense of family values turn their attention to their own homes and the values taught there. - Judith A. Green, Alexandria, VA" Judith, if you're out there, bravo! -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-20 21:45 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I build each one of my songs out of glass/ so you could see me inside them I suppose/ or you could just leave the image of me/ in the background I guess/ and watch your own reflection superimposed." - Ani DiFranco, "Overlap" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:59:06 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: MELTS Sue D wrote: >I just popped in to visit the first pass on the MELTs logo. The key >logo and white electronic looking lettering of MELISTERS are great! The >lightning bolt just doesn't feel right. I agree. But I don't have an artistic bone in my body, so I can't think of an alternative contribution. And I don't care much for the "Melisters" designation, but we do need something to indicate it's a list tee. The suggestion I have is for the shirt itself; I'd like the logo to be something small, positioned over the left breast of a henley tee, rather than a boring t-shirt. -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-20 21:59 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I think you're the least fucked up person I ever met/ and that may be as close to the real thing as I'm ever gonna get" - Ani DiFranco, "The Diner" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:53:29 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Sesame Street, Listserv help Anne Haines wrote: >Yes, I am obsessive enough to have transcribed these. :) Enjoy! >-Anne I just watched it, and I immediately logged in to see if anyone had done that! I was surprised that no one had mentioned (for the benefit of those who didn't see it) that MLE's tribute to the letter "U" was to the tune of "Like the Way I Do". Rather badly lip sync'd, but incredibly adorable! =-=-=<>=-=-= Carol Andredesz wrote: >love the way she looks holding that awesome guitar. With the little holes >all over. So this is what it's come to... MLE has fans that have never seen the Ovation before... =-=-=<>=-=-= Tami Cowart wrote: >How might a person move from digest mode to real time mode around here??? Send SET MLETHER MAIL to LISTSERV@VM!.MCGILL.CA. Or there's a cool service worth checking out at http://www.discussion.com that automates the process for a large number of mailing lists, including this one. -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-20 22:10 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "Some chick says/ 'thank you for saying all the things I never do'/ I say 'you know the thanks I get/ is to take all the shit for you/ it's nice that you listen/ it'd be nicer if you joined in/ as long as you play their game girl/ you're never gonna win'" - Ani DiFranco, "Face Up and Sing" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:55:11 -0500 From: Sonya Whitfield Subject: A cool picture I saw Does anyone have the picture that posted on the bottom of the page http://www.physiology.rwth-aachen.de/user/broicher/etheridge/etheridge_index.htm l...I've never seen that picture...I think it's great...any info would be great.... :-) Sonya swhitfie@wpo.hcc.com ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 21 Nov 1996 to 22 Nov 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sat Nov 23 00:00:48 1996 Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 00:00:11 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 22 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 23:54:37 GMT From: Maggie at avalon Subject: Re: Ani in Ms., MLE NEWSWEEK responses Deb wrote: >Speaking of magazines, get out this weekend and pick up the 11/25 NEWSWEEK, >which has responses to the MLE cover. My favorite: > >"In my interaction with the children of my gay and lesbian friends, I can >see it is indeed difficult to be the child of gay parents. But this is not >because gays can't or don't provide a loving, stable home environment. >Rather, it's the result of values taugh in straight homes to the classmates >of our children -- hate, bigotry, and intolerance. Children of gay parents >learn to be fearful and ashamed because they are routinely ridiculed and >ostracized by their peers. I suggest that those who raise their voices the >loudest in defense of family values turn their attention to their own homes >and the values taught there. - Judith A. Green, Alexandria, VA" I happened to run across that magazine a couple of days ago, sitting in a waiting room while my car got an oil change. There were several negative letters as well, one of them from a doctor(I think) who stated that he refused to put it in his waiting room because he was offended by the story. That got me wondering....I looked around me, and sure enough, there were back issues of Time, Better Homes and Gardens, and People, but the copy of Newsweek with MLE on the cover was NOT in the waiting room. :( Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 17:56:00 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: Re: Shinitzed out... Lori Rehfeldt wrote: > SO, there I was stranded from ELLEN, stranded > a fool...what could I do...Monday at school (sorry, I just sang an > obscure version of Grease...not the stuff behind the stove...) Ellen, baby, I'm in misery...... Oh man I love that movie!!!! Tis one of my favorites. Okay, I'm going home now and watching it before I go out tonight. > like bless my home land forever, and > where can I find Julie Andrews You may find her either with Victor or Victoria. > "Let's > start from the very beginning...you know doe a deer The hills are alive with the sound of music, la, la, la, la... Gee whiz, another favorite of mine. Ok, ok, so I like musicals, sue me. > The Germans kept > wondering how I can be a field of deers...Well, I told them if Kevin > Costner could have a field of dreams, then I Lori Ellen Rehfeldt can > be a field of deers Lori, you are really too much.... Kare, who can't wait to go home and watch "Grease". Grease is the word, is the word, that you heard, its got groove its got meaning..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:23:34 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: MELTS & Philly Pub Crawling Trevor is felling better and he thanks everyone for wishes of getting well. He is doing so well he rearranged the pillows on the bed while I was at work today! He needs to get hi left canine tooth out. He goes for blood tests on Tuesday and the tooth will come out the next week. He is not afraid because he know he will be spoiled rotten for weeks! Sue D., didn't you loose that book on your world wind tour with Melissa? I thought maybe you got mugged and the mugger took it! Shucks! Trevor says "arrfff". I guess that is hello or loose the book! By the way, Gargoyles closed last Friday. We don't know if it will ever open again. The owner ran out of money! Don't overexpose too much now, girlfriend! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:23:57 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: The final say on Philly (NMEC) Oh Sue D.!!! I am hurting sooooomuch!! No, not that silly. From your report, Brenda Starr you!! Excellent report!! The last time I laughed that hard my sister's kids had tackled me and started to tickle me. I am not going to say where because you'll use that next time out!! Let's all get together soon! I hope we can do something before Christmas. If not, we can continue ringing in the New Year till June or July!! I am glad your Road Trip was fruitful and restful...NOT! I hope to party like that someday soon!!! Peace to my drinkin buddy, Francie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 19:24:21 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: VH1 this weekend..... Something of intrest on VH1 this weekend..... On Rupaul's show Saturday night is The Captain & Tennille. This ought to be intresting!! FYI...I met my first lover through the Captain & Tennille Fan Club, went I was a teenage. We didn't become lovers for years, not until I was over C&T and I was in college. I think of those two and I have to laugh! I think of Rupaul and C&T and I get hystrical! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:20:03 -0500 From: Mike Lieman Subject: Re: MELTS: I like the Flesh Gordon thing At 04:10 PM 11/21/96 -0500, Ruben Boiardi wrote: >Hi, > >Just my 2 cents on the logo. I like it, although I agree it looks a little >comic-booky (is that a word?) I think it's pretty cool. > >Besides, didn't Elvis also use a lightning bolt? Of course, not to mention the 13 point lightning bolt it the Dead's Steal-Your-Face symbol! peace Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:54:14 -0600 From: "D. Caffrey" Subject: No ticket! I posted earlier about the possibility that I might have an extra ticket to the Memphis show. At the time I didn't think my friend could go, but she was lucky enough to find someone to work for her. So as it turns out, I don't have a ticket. I apologize. To all of those going, I hope to see you there. Unfortunately, I won't be at the pre-show gathering as my computer has been down & I didn't know anything about it. We've already made plans to meet somewhere else. My friends are not as Melissa obsessed as I am. They can't believe I want to get to the Coliseum a half an hour before the show starts. Hey, I just want to get to my seat in plenty of time! I don't want to miss anything! See ya'll there !!! Diane ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 22 Nov 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sun Nov 24 00:00:50 1996 Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 00:00:13 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 22 Nov 1996 to 23 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 21:51:01 -0800 From: Rla@MAILHUB.TOWNSEND.COM Subject: DUETS TREE - leaf announcement as promised, this is the long overdue announcement for all list members who wish to be leaves on the DUETS TREE. the branch tapes were made directly from the "i wish i was your lover" (sic ;-) ) CD boot. not only does this boot contain the "VH1 Duets" show, but it also has 5 tracks from MLE's performance in rome, italy during her short european promotional tour in fall 1995. in addition, in honor of MLE's role in the marc rocco version of the janis joplin movie, i've added her janis tribute from woodstock 1994 to the end of the tape. the tribute tracks are from the "live from the bottom line" CD boot. here is the complete set list: (1) Your Little Secret / (2) Bring Me Some Water (w/ Joan Osborne) / (3) St. Teresa (w/ Joan Osborne) / (4) Occasionally (w/ Paula Cole) / (5) Watch the Woman's Hands (w/ Paula Cole) / (6) You Can Sleep While I Drive (w/ Jewel) / (7) Foolish Games (w/ Jewel) / (8) Damn, I Wish I Was Your Lover (w/ Sophie B. Hawkins) / (9) Love and Affection (w/ Joan, Paula, Jewel, and Sophie) / (10) An Unusual Kiss / (11) Nowhere To Go / (12) I Could Have Been You / (13) I'm the Only One / (14) Your Little Secret / (15) Try (Just a Little Bit Harder) / (16) Cry Baby / (17) Move Over / (18) Piece of My Heart tracks 1-9: recorded live at the "doheny mansion" in los angeles, CA on october 10, 1995. tracks 10-14: recorded live in rome, italy in october 1995. tracks 15-18: recorded live at woodstock, august 1994 the boot will fit quite nicely on a C-90. for those who are new to the concept of tape trees, the process is simple. someone (the trunk) makes copies (the seed) for the branches, who then makes copies of the tape for their respective leaves. the leaves trade blank tapes or other shows with the branches in exchange for a copy of the tape. high quality brand name tapes, such as Maxell XL-II, are used for the tapes. the specifics of the trade should be worked out between the branches and the leaves individually. in this manner, we are able to share low generations of hard-to-get music with many people without everyone having to purchase expensive CD boots. we have many branches in the U.S., canada, and europe. nanette gherardin has kindly offered to be our sole OZ branch, so please be kind to her! this tree organization may look vaguely familiar to many of you . please reply to the branch corresponding to your birthday month in your respective geographic region; their email addresses are below. all of the branches have committed to making at least 10 copies of the tape. any overflow from the u.s. will be siphoned by the main branches to our overflow branches, john miller and jenniffer smith. *U.S. Branches* January: Maggie February: Mike Lieman March: tei! April: Karen Justice May: Julie Pickard June: Sheri Yamada July: Jude Hunter August: Liz Burns September: Brenda Fraunfelter October: MaryGail Perkins November: Jenny Sass December: Shel Kilts <70412.2152@compuserve.com> Overflow (January - June): John Miller Overflow (July - December): Jenniffer Smith *Canadian Branches* January - April: Tricia Bird May - August: Glenna Vinokur September - December: Cindy Sceviour *European Branches* January - April: Nathalie Woot de Trixhe May - August: Kirsti van Niekerk September - December: Tim Dunker *Australian Branch* Nanette Gherardin this tree is on a first come, first serve basis, so the earlier you reply, the better. all of the branches have received their tapes, so they are ready, willing, and able to start dubbing! :-) if you have any questions, please feel free to email *me* privately, not the list, and i'll be happy to help you out. *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 22:10:25 -0800 From: Rla@MAILHUB.TOWNSEND.COM Subject: still on cloud 9 - 8-D well, today, the angels were smiling upon me. KFOG (the radio station sponsoring MLE's 12/17 s.f. show) has a new feature, "front row friday", and this afternoon, they were giving away a pair of front row tix to MLE's cow palace show. i think you can guess where this post is going. 8-D annalisa (the KFOG dj) stated that she was going to ask a question that only "big" MLE fans could answer, so i was all prepared for some difficult question relating to Fame or Weeds or Roxy Carmichael. needless to say, i was rather surprised that they asked: "when melissa was a 10 or 11 year old kid, what state did she first play in?" GOOD GOD! i LOL'd at this no-brainer and hit my speed dial (KFOG is #2 ). i got a busy signal about 10 times, when it finally rang. when annalisa answered, i thought for sure that someone had already answered the question, but NO! of course, i answered "kansas" and won the front row seats. damn, that was like taking candy from a baby! :-) never coming down from cloud 9...whew! *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 02:12:36 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: Re: MELTS Deb wrote: >I don't care much for the "Melisters" designation, but we do need something to >indicate it's a list tee. I thought the full mailing address was a nice touch on the bowling shirt. If y'all don't mind being a little derivative, perhaps you could do that (OK with you, Shirt Gal?) -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) matthewb@li.net http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 04:17:14 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: Roxy Carmichael, Joey, copied negs (SMEC) Quite an interesting night for me... I finally got to see Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael again...haven't seen it in quite a while. I'm trying to tape Don't Look at Me (is that its name?) from the video- I kinda like it. Anybody know if it was written specifically for the movie? My cat Joey drank bleach tonight...it was pretty scary for my SO & I as he is more like our child than our cat. We called Poison Control & got info & he's okay now. We also had to give him a bath, cause he got it all over his fur, so he is *not* a happy camper- I've got the battle wounds to prove it. I'm still looking for a couple of copied negatives of ME shots, if anybody could help me out I'd love you forever...I'd give you my first born child... okay, my SO probably wouldn't go for that, but you get the point.... Take care all, have a warm & safe weekend. mary h. lostwomyn@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 07:09:48 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: VH-1 Pop-Up Videos Morning, gang, Maybe you guys have seen the new "pop-up" videos on VH-1. They're kind of neat, actually...as the video plays, a balloon will "pop up" every few seconds, pointing to something in the video and giving some little tidbit about whatever it's pointing to. For example, the actors in a video will be identified and their association with the artist will be explained. The pop-up videos I have seen so far have been both humorous and informative. Having said that, I found the following posted to the AOL board this morning: "VH1 has a new half-hour show called Pop-Up Videos...they play something like 5 videos, during which little "info-nuggets", or factoids about the video, pop up on the screen...the few times I've caught any of it, it's been pretty funny. According to their online schedule (keyword VH1), Come to My Window premieres on the show Saturday 11/30 at 9:30am...they also list an upcoming "artists of the year" show that includes a pop-up version of Nowhere to Go... date is to be announced." So set your VCRS!!! Btw, John Miller....I'm ready to lend Storytellers, but I totally did not get Sesame Street ... I could try to get this pop-up version of CTMW for the compilation, though..... Later, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 13:35:24 +0100 From: Willem Jan Keur Subject: Joplin & new cd Hi Last night I read the next message on dutch television: Het is voor Melissa Etheridge een droom die waarheid wordt:het vertolken van de rol van Janis Joplin in een film die over deze legendarische zange= res zal worden gemaakt.Etheridge was zich al jaren aan het voorbereiden op de= ze rol,varierend van het bestuderen van het leven van Joplin tot het zingen = van haar nummers. Vanwege de opnamen,die volgend jaar zullen beginnen,zal Etheridge voorlop= ig geen concerten meer geven.De zangeres heeft dan ook een druk bezette agen= da: filmopnamen,soundtrack-opnamen en haar aanstaand ouderschap.Daarna komt e= r weer een studio-album van haar uit, gevolgd door een live-cd. For non-dutch listers a little translation: It is a dream come true for ME: to play Janis Joplin in a movie about thi= s legandary woman. She prepared this for years, varied from to study about Janis=B4 life to sing her music. Because of this recording (they start next year), ME will not do any concerts. She is very busy: the movie, soundtrack-recording and her comin= g parentship. When this is all finished there will be another CD, followed = by a live CD. Can anybody confirm this message?? Willem Jan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:36:17 +0000 From: Margaret McArdle Subject: (No way to L.A. As much as I enjoy this list as the L.A. concert gets nearer its getting painful to read,all attenders are going to have the time of their lives and it breaks my heart that I can't be there,unless I book a business class ticket or above I can't get home before Christmas(not that that worries me but work would be ticked off)and in as much as I would be willing to get overdrawn at the bank to attend I think I'd get little sympathy from friends if my car was to be repossessed after me blowing $5000 for 48 hours in California. Anyway here's my $0.02 on a couple of recent postings; The list T-shirt:Although the "key" is a recent image its the most recognized,that on a computer screen subtulely left breastish sound too tacky ?? The Bryan Adams C.D is available in the U.K and Ireland, I know "Q" magazine is sold worldwide it has a lot of advertisements at the back so people could probably order it via that, inexpensively enough. Finally,is there any truth to the rumour that the L.A. concert is being taped for release next year,if not does anyone have any roadie connections?as they film the concert for the screens there its easy enough to slip in a tape to the main console to record it,I know a guy that managed to talk a GnR roadie into doing that and has the bootleg from heaven as a result......I wait with bated breathe Margaret ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 14:23:27 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: Re: melissa on 3FM Hello everybody, Yvonne wrote yesterday: >><> > >Well Marcel, I think that she hardly gets any airplay at all in Holland.. >Or to my taste too little anyway. I don't agree. This year 3FM played many times Melissa stuff. Interviews, Singles, CD-promotion, concert-promotion, 2 meter sessie, and more. Yesterday there was news about her on 3FM (news all listers already know). Indeed the last weeks it's less than the first months of this year, but if the news is correct, she is recording a new album. We all know that IF she is recording it takes several months before her new album will be introduced. If she is she will be touring less and the postive thing is she will be doing a new tour soon (and hopefully starting again in Europe). ><> > >Well IMHO I think that at least half who went to that concerts was like >there for Melissa and no other reason. I know I was. >Do ya know why she didn't come back and do a song with Brian. I thought she >would (it was the reason why I stayed all through Brians concert) but she >didn't... >I was actually a bit disappointed. I was dissapointed too. I have stayed because of my friends. They like BA (Why??? :-)) I think songs like Run To You and Summer of '69 were nice but you could notice that the show was too prepared (you know?). Now I'm thinking about it I'm almost glad she didn't do a song with him. It had to be reverse. BA had to be the opening for Melissa. Maybe next year..:-D >See ya. same, Marcel. >>Who is ex-TNO'er for 5 months now and maybe will apply for a job there again<< _________________________ Marcel Ummelen (24) Chemical Engineer Kerkrade, The Netherlands _________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:32:27 EST From: M Something Subject: Grease v. U Kare wrote: >Kare, who can't wait to go home and watch "Grease". > >Grease is the word, is the word, that you heard, its got groove its got >meaning..... Yeah, but can it spell a, a neat word like Umbrella? I think not. Michelle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 16:33:05 EST From: "Diane M. Brundige" Subject: Pittsburgh 9/2/96 concert I need your help. I met someone who desperately wants an audio or video copy of the show on 9/2/96 in Pittsburgh. She has some really neat stuff to trade. She was at this show and was the person who gave Melissa and the band the Dr. Suess "Cat in the Hat" hats. If you could help her out, please email me privately. Thanks, Diane P.S. I'll post my report of the Texas Tour package on Monday. I know I owe many people email from this trip. A great time was had by all....... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 20:47:44 -0500 From: "Christina M. Kougher" Subject: MLE Xmas music..... Hello....... I was wondering who could help me with a list of existing MLE Xmas recordings??? I love "So this is Xmas", and would like to have more! I'm looking for the promo single, if anyone knows how to get it please let me know! I saw a bootleg once that had (don't quote me) "Santa Claus is coming to town" and others but the quality was real bad so I didn't get it. If anyone knows please let me know!!! Thanks................Tina in MI ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 20:39:10 -0600 From: Debbie Schwalenberg Subject: Letter for Melissa (this letter is for Melissa, in hopes that she gets it somehow. If any of you from the list have her personal e-mail address, please, please send it to her for me and let me know.) :) Dear Melissa, I am a 19 year old lesbian who just came out to her parents. My life has become increasingly difficult since doing so. I would appreciate it if you would read on and let me tell you how and also why I'm writing you. To begin, I live at home and my parents still think they have control over everything I do and everything I feel. I was so frusterated by their inabilities to treat me as an adult and my inability to live out the American dream they had planned for me I left a few weeks ago and went to Wisconsin to live near my girlfriend. (I live in Virginia) THis is also when they found out about me. All my friends already knew, but my family didn't. My parents ended up coming to Wisconsin after a week and pleaded with me to come home. They said they didn't care who I was hor HOW I was. So I went back to Virginia. Of course, I miss my girlfriend like crazy, but I could almost take waiting for her if it weren't for the other things in my life that are going so very wrong. My mother recently told me I was "sick" and "twisted" and that what I was doing (sex with a woman) was "just gross". She said that I had been "brain-washed" and that she didn't even want to think about what I had done with my girlfriend. Then the other night my father told me that I was "sinful" and that he thought i must be doing this to get back at them or something. And, of course, I live with them, so I can't escape these remarks which when I came back they promised they wouldn't make. My father has finally said I should just not talk about it. He called what I'm doing "not normal". All this because I'm in love with a girl. It's very hurtful to know that my own parents don't accept me and probably never will. They grew up in the 50's and are VERY stuck in their ways. THey wouldn't even CONSIDER something like PFLAG. They actually think I'm doing something to THEM!! It has been your music that has actually given me some inspiration and things to remember about the world and life. I pretty much have to say to myself everyday, "Life is full of wonder. Love is NEVER wrong." Unfortunately, my parents can't see things that way. MY love is wrong to them. I can't move out so I don't have to deal with them either. I have $18 to my name and just started working again. (this time two jobs instead of one) But my first few paychecks are going to my parents because I owe them about $500 for phone calls I made to my girlfriend. (I wasn't irresponsible. I had a job when I made those calls and I didn't expect to leave it. However, my boss got violent on me and I had to leave. That's when I decided to go to Wisconsin.) Anyway, my brother and sisters have been better than my parents. (one sister said she knew all along.) I don't think they really want to talk about it, though, despite the fact they are trying to support me. I can tell it makes them uncomfortable when I mention my girlfriend. A couple have told me that there's still a chance that I could find "a nice guy" someday. This is because I've dated guys. But in truth, I have no interest in them anymore. My mom still thinks I'll find a guy. She just CAN'T accept that I'm in love and truly miserable being away from my love. She constantly makes digs at me about it. She'll mention a guy checking me out at the mall or talk about me having a baby. It's like I've dissappointed her. It's like I always disappoint her and my dad. It hurts so much for them to treat me like this and at the same time I miss my girlfriend SO much and I hurt for her. It will be a hear and a half until we can be together. As is with my money,I doubt I'll be able to even afford a visit until next year. I am so confused that I don't know what to do about anything. I'm writing you because you always have such great words of wisdom and your songs have inspired me so much. THey give me strength to know that what I'm doing isn't wrong. I guess I was hoping for a few pearls or wisdom from you about this terribly depressing situation (at least it's depressing to me). I have barely even been able to touch on everything that is wrong, but I didn't want to e-mail you a book or anything. So I would really appreciate an e-mail back if you could. Thank you so much for reading. Sincerely, Linda C. (and the wonderful typing done by her absolutely *wonderful* girlfriend, Debbie, crandeb@fdldotnet.com) ;) ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 22 Nov 1996 to 23 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Mon Nov 25 00:00:47 1996 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 00:00:09 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 23 Nov 1996 to 24 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 22:01:19 -0800 From: Rla@MAILHUB.TOWNSEND.COM Subject: las vegas show and MLE on E! Kimberly said: >A local L.A. station, K-BIG 104.3 announced yesterday that Melissa >will be appearing Tuesday, December 10 at the Primadonna Hotel & >Casino in Stateline, Nevada. I took this news with a grain of salt >as they are notorious for getting their info messed up. well, it appears that this information is correct. it's just a matter of which city the damn venue is actually located in. MEIN lists MLE's 12/10 concert will be at the "star of the desert arena" in "las vegas" (stateline, nv - is in parentheses). pollstar (http://www.pollstar.com) states that the concert is at the "star of the desert arena", but lists that the venue is located in "primadonna, nv". finally, ticketmaster (http://www.ticketmaster.com) says that the concert will be at the "star of the desert arena" at the buffalo bills resort in "jean, nv". there's a link to the "primadonna/buffalo bills page", which i then jumped to. apparently, the star of the desert arena is located at the buffalo bills resort, which appears to be part of the primadonna resorts chain. regardless, MLE *is* playing at the star of the desert arena (if you can actually find it) on 12/10. the primadonna resorts web page has a poster of her upcoming appearance, next to one for gallagher of all people. check out http://www.primadonna.com/upcoming/index.html. las vegas, jean, and stateline, nv are all located within about 50 miles of each other, so if you're going to the show, i'd call the venue and ask for directions. there is a phone number listed at the primadonna web page, but i neglected to write it down. ============================== also, the following excerpt appeared in the online version of E! last week (http://www.eonline.com). it's already gone from their site (they change it every friday), but i thought i'd post it anyway. this is from the "best of the gossip show" section. >"The Best of the Gossip Show" > >Bruce Kluger, Playboy > >There's a fine line between gossip and rumor. Ever since Melissa >Etheridge and pregnant girlfriend Julie Cypher announced they are >having a child, the persistent rumor has been that Brad Pitt is the >father. Well, Melissa has finally figured out where the speculation >came from. "Apparently," says the singer, "I give one comment to >'Vanity Fair' that Brad Pitt is so handsome he could make a girl >change teams--if you know what I mean--(and) suddenly he becomes the >sperm donor responsible for this child. Well, I suppose you have to >laugh at it. But no...Brad is not the father." Okay, Melissa, how >about a known sperm donor? How about Michael Jackson? icky! i'm outta here... *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 01:28:47 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: MLE Xmas music..... I have a promo copy of Happy Xmas. The local rep from Island gave it to me as a Christmas gift 2 years ago, since I work in radio and I have helped get Melissa ariplay when she was not that popular. I really don't know WHERE you can get one, unless you know someone who works in radio or for Island Records. You might want to try a record convention to see if a dealer has one or try Goldmine Magazine. They have listing of dealers across the country! Good Luck! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 11:46:53 -0400 From: Nathalie Woot de Trixhe Subject: MELTS - My logo Hello everyone!! I have had a lot of fun designing a project of logo for the T-shirt. I have put it on my site at the address : http://www.ping.be/~ping9791/mle.htm I am waiting for yours comments, critics, ... on it :) Take care ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 13:24:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: LAST EIGHT SHOWS Hi again, first of all I would like to thank everyone who replied to my posted mails !!! I am really sorry but it looks like as if there are not enough people interested in the ideas. The only show where we might have a chance to focus on is the one on Dec. 22nd in LA. But we might need someone (best she/he lives in LA) who helps coordinate. I will leave Germany in two weeks and I probably won`t be able to get my Emails in the US, because I don`t have a Labtop or anything else that could help. I also will get the ballons sent to LA with UPS and maybe Iw ill need an adress for them. So volunteers please Email me private !!! And I am still happy for any comments and ideas to make the LA-show as special as possible for the audience and Melissa. Greetings Tim Dunker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 12:44:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: Re: Joplin & new cd Hi there, Willem Jan Keur wrote on Nov 23rd: >Because of this recording (they start next year), ME will not do any >concerts. She is very busy: the movie, soundtrack-recording and her comin= >g parentship. When this is all finished there will be another CD, followed = >by a live CD. >Can anybody confirm this message?? I can not really confirm this, but this fits very much to some things I heared this Feb. and this summer. Especiallly the LIVE CD which I expect to be out before any other new MLE album. The Joplin movie is sure scheduled for next summer and on this I would expect an best of Janis songs sung by MLE to be out with the movie in early 1998. Now something else I thought off. Aren`t there cameras and video-screens used at the US-tour ? That might fit to an LIVE VIDEO coming out additional to a LIVE-CD ? There is only one thing that makes me be very unsure about the video. I talked to Melissa`s manager Bill Leopold once (I think it was in 1994) and asked him about why there was no live video from MLE and he told me that he wanted the people come to the shows and experience MLE live and not just watch her on video. But on the same day I got to know that MLE really wanted a live video. So, lets surprise !!!! Again, the above written are just my personal assumptions. On these points I didn`t hear anything confirming, like to the latest Brian Adams single. Bye Tim Dunker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:53:00 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Joplin Movie Hi, all, Tim Dunker said: >>The Joplin movie is sure scheduled for next summer and on this I would expect an best of Janis songs sung by MLE to be out with the movie in early 1998.<< You know, we've all read that this film is scheduled to start shooting in Feb and I've even read that's it's due to be out in the summer. (Tim, you're saying that Melissa is scheduled to shoot it in the summer? And it won't be out until 1998? Did I miss something somewhere? Help!) In any event, Melissa's management and publicist still won't confirm that the movie is in fact being done at all. Anyone know why? I know the Joplin family is against the movie since it's unauthorized by them and so they won't grant rights to use Joplin's copyrighted songs, yet the bulk of Joplin's hits were cover songs, weren't they? So I can't really imagine that would legally hold things up. But then again, one thing I have certainly discovered this past year is that the music business and show business often don't make a lot of sense to the uninitiated! LOL Just curious, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:45:01 -0500 From: Sue Molyneaux Subject: TV list updated Hi all I've just updated the official list of Melissa's TV appearances. Once again, I encourage people to check the information, add any missing or new pieces of information, or correct anything that's wrong. My URL is below. I'd also encourage people to link the TV appearances list on their homepages... otherwise, people may never know it's out there! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 12:05:54 -0500 From: Kelly Doyle Subject: Re: MLE Xmas music..... "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town" is on the "Being Sensitive" import. "Happy Christmas/Give Peace A Chance" promo single is included on "The Only One" import. The live version of "Happy Christmas" from the Leno show is included on volume 3 of the 3 volume set "Melissa". Kel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:22:06 -0500 From: Dan Cohen Subject: Texas 3-concert tour report. Hi, MEListers. I went on the 3-concert Texas tour (Austin, Dallas, Houston). Here are some highlights that I saw. My T-shirt problem: I am now the proud owner of some neat Melissa T-shirts, and I want to show them off. But Canada's climate is almost as cold as Ohio's, so wherever I go, my winter coat covers up my neat T. :( My social problem: At first I was pretty worried about being the only man, and the only single person, in the group. I shouldn't have worried -- the girls were nice to me, and I always had someone to go shopping with, or lunch, or just idle socializing. I made some new friends, and I feel "special" because of them. :) Austin: ====== At the concert, my seat was at the left side, and I had a real good view of John Shanks. Now I've always felt that John's guitar playing was technically good, but I wasn't prepared for John the man, too. As the show went on, I found myself attracted more and more to his face and body, the way he moves, his attitude -- I was actually getting a crush on the guy! It took me a while to understand: I was Shanktified! After the concert some of us went to Oilcan Harry's, a gay M/F pickup bar. Black lite, heavy beat -- a busy place! No we weren't there to get picked up! But if you're ever in Austin, you'll know that that's what the place is for. In Austin, Friday nite is party nite. So Saturday AM, Austin sleeps in! Dallas: ====== The concert in Dallas was really super! Melissa was lively and excited. A woman in the audience passed a book up to the stage. At first Melissa just stood there, looking at it. "I know what that is", she said. Finally she picked it up, "It's a Year Book from Leaveworth High", and it opened it to her own class page. She read some of it to us: "Voted most likely to succeed as a singer, musician, and ..." she made a face "... thespian ??". The audience laughed. Then Melissa autographed the page (this is a rare event) and gave the book back to the woman. We were all thrilled! After the show, we went to "The Ridge", a brand-new lesbian bar, opening nite. The bar has a MLE theme, and we, the tour group, were special guests. We had a good time with a dance and raffle of some Melissa stuff (I didn't win anything). A couple of the customers recognized me from the concert, and said so. Their comments were some of the evening's little special moments. I must be honest with you readers: At first I was pretty uncomfortable at the Ridge, being a guy in a girls' bar. But I was with my friends from the Tour, and everything was alright, with them around. Dallas on Sunday: ================ Sunday morning we went back to the Ridge for a Tour group Brunch and pix. Later on Sunday we checked out "Jugs", another women's bar. (It took me 1/2 hour to figure out what the word "Jugs" meant!) Now I always wear my ME+ logo necklace from MEIN. I like to show it off, and I always hope that someone would trade me for some souvenir of theirs. Well, at Jugs, a lady we met said she's a big Melissa fan, she saw the concert last nite, and she really, really wants my medalion. I gave it to her. She gave me back a great big hug. Mmmm, a fair trade! Sunday evening some girls and I went to "Sue Ellen's", another women's bar in Dallas. At first the bouncer wouldn't let me in (I'm a man), but when I pointed out my friends she said "ok". The band was "Jane Doe", an all-girl rock band. And do they rock! Later I discovered that Jane Doe is a Toronto band! So when I get home, I'll just wait for them to show up again. If the bouncer lets me in. Houston: ======= Monday in Houston, had lunch at the Hard Rock Cafe. No MLE nor Janis Joplin stuff on display at this Hard Rock. Melissa and the boys really gave a good show in Houston. The energy was electric, the emotions were flying. Our 4 English guests were at 5th row center. They showed Melissa their "England" sign. Melissa asked them what where they doing here in Texas? Four arms went up, each pointing right at Melissa. She pointed to herself: "Me?". She seemed flattered -- her feet did a little dance of excitement. But at the Houston show we had our only "downer". The Houston security people wouldn't let us near the stage. They were really mean, and for no good reason. We all felt frustrated about that, and a couple of our group looked like they would have gotten violent if they had the chance. This is the only time you'll ever read "Mean people suck" in my postings. I think Melissa and John knew how we felt. They recognized me from the nite before, and gave me some strange looks, like "what's wrong?" Finally: ======= It's been a week since the 3-concert tour. I'm still smiling a lot, because of the 3 excellent excellent concerts, and because of the friends I found in Texas. And I'm sad because I've left them. I don't know about the future; love at a distance is always hard. Some of the tour members are on the Net, most are not. I don't know. Was the Tour a success? - Goal #1 - see Melissa and her band -- yes! - Goal #2 - make friends and have a good time -- yes! - Goal #3 - see some of Texas and its culture -- yes! -- Dan in Toronto danc@terraport.net http://www.canscape.com/dancohen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:56:50 -0500 From: Mary Fiedorczyk Subject: ME Christmas Music Yes!! ME did do "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town"...I have a good copy of it(an accoustical version) as well as "So This Is Christmas/Give Peace A Chance"(recorded live). This same bootleg also has "Outta My Mind"..a song I really like but ME said it was a little too "pop" for her to release on an album.(Tho Julie likes it alot!) Will be glad to trade! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 15:41:52 -0800 From: Rla@MAILHUB.TOWNSEND.COM Subject: you too can win a signed ovation there's an ad for MLE's show at the cow palace in this week's s.f. bay guardian (november 20-26, 1996 issue), on p. 67. here's what it says: "Open Mind Music and the San Francisco Bay Guardian invite you to KFOG's 11th Annual Concert for Kids, An Evening with Melissa Etheridge, LIVE Dec 17, Cow Palace, 7:30 pm Enter to win * a signed Ovation guitar * * front row tix for the show * * special tour gift packs * * CDs * What's Your Little Secret? Tell us in 50 words or less - bring it in to OPEN MIND MUSIC for your chance to WIN! Listening party and Guitar Giveaway, Saturday, December 14, 2 pm Open Mind Music, 342 Divisadero at Oak, SF, Open 11-7 Mon-Sat, Sun 12-7, (415) 621-2244 Include full name and daytime phone number, bring to Open Mind Music before December 9, 1996." i called Open Mind and asked if the winner has to be present at the listening party to win any of the goodies, and the answer was "that winners will be notified by phone." good luck! :-) *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:51:45 -0600 From: "Cindy S. Hughey" Subject: MEMPHIS!!! So what did You other lister think of the Memphis concert. I, a first timer, thought it was great. I was personally thrilled with the appearance of Terri Clark (sp?). Her and MELISSA on the small stage and me against the stage. WOW! Oops I'm running late already. Gotta go. Darn I wanted to say so much more! Well Later, Cindy S. Hughey a.k.a SHAKAY hugheyc@email.uah.edu U of Alabama Huntsville ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:46:40 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: etc Come on, come on, come on. Does anyone here besides me listen to AUK over and over? Has anyone here ever heard what is so unsual about that kiss she sings about? Does anyone know if Julie takes bowling ball donations? My friend is retiring from amateur bowling, and comes from quite a bowling tradition. In fact her mom is in the Bowling Hall of Fame. (Yes there really is one, I did not make that up!) What better place for her ball than in Julie's collection? I too was one of those who had a great day after seeing Melissa on Sesame St. It comes on at 7am here. -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 21:26:02 -0500 From: MR DOW W JONES Subject: Mel interview Hi folks! I found a newspaper interview from the 22nd of November, and I thought I should type it in for YOU! It's from the DESERET NEWS in Salt Lake City, UT: Etheridge keeps focus on the future Songwriter measures success in doing what she loves, 'not looking back.' - by Scott Iwasaki For Melissa Etheridge, success isn't measured by platinum albums, hit singles and sold-out shows. It's whether or not you're happy at what you are doing. "Regardless of hipness or whether or not I'm the flavor of the month, there's always the songs and music," Etheridge told the Deseret News during a phone call from Atlanta, GA. "But the secret is not looking back at what you've done. Instead, look to what you're about to do." Etheridge will bring her rootsy blues rock to the Salt Palace convention center, Friday, Nov. 29, at 8 p.m. Success was the main topic on which Etheridge focused during the conversation. Etheridge is no stranger to success. Her 1993 album, "Yes I am," hit multi-platinum status (selling more than 5 million copies); in 1993, she won the Best Rock Vocal Performance Grammy, which was followed up in 1995 with the trophy for Best Female Rock Vocal Performance. Her first two albums have gone platinum (sold more than 1 million copies a piece), and she has performed all over the world. While her latest album, "Your little secret", isn't selling as well as "Yes I am", she said it really doesn't matter. "I had my moment in one way," she said. "Now, it's up to me to get on with my career. I've gotten to a point where I feel comfortable with where I am. My road to success, so to speak, was full of ups and downs. So I was prepared for all this. The tour is winding down, and I'm exited to be getting back home." Etheridge, who readily acknowledges her homosexuality, said she's going to take some time off to be with her partner, Julie Cypher, wo is expecting early next year. "I need to be with my family," she said. She was born in Leavenworth, Kan., 35 years ago. She strapped on her first guitar - a gift from her father - when she was 8. By her teens she was playing her music all over the state. "I remember playing with my familiy's old record player," Etheridge said of her roots. "My influences have been in the direction of the girl bands like the Ronettes and singer/songwriters like Joan Armatrading, Kate Bush and Janis Joplin. But I have to admit my all-time idol is Bruce Springsteen." Hope you enjoyed it. Love, Angie xxx ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 23 Nov 1996 to 24 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Mon Nov 25 21:55:06 1996 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:54:26 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 24 Nov 1996 to 25 Nov 1996 - Special issue To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 23:09:56 -0600 From: Patti Fink Subject: MEC & EC (sorta...hahaha) These just in this evening from the Hot Hollywood Gossip tabloid parody: The televison show "ELLEN" is being moved from 8 PM to 9:30 PM, perhaps in anticipation of Ellen's "coming out", which networks may deem less appropriate for younger viewers. Thoughts: 1) Ok, so if Ellen is "coming out" and getting a romantic girlfriend, they move the show to 9:30 PM. But if her new girlfriend were Princess Di, do you think they would move the show to 11 PM? & then: DEMI MOORE was caught KISSING and MAKING OUT with LAURA DAY, her PSYCHIC ADVISOR, as she sat on Laura's lap! Demi denies it, but admits that she's "attracted" to women, and not afraid to show her feelings when she's close to another woman. (Enquirer) Thoughts: 1) Well, Demi's denied it, and that's good enough for me! But there must be some sort of explanation, right? TOP EXPLANATIONS FOR WHY DEMI WAS APPARENTLY MAKING OUT WITH HER PSYCHIC ADVISOR: a) Ellen DeGeneres stood her up; b) Demi was acting out a scene for her next movie, and forgot (1) that the camera crew was not around and (2) that she was not on a movie set and (3) that her next movie did not involve her kissing any women; c) Her husband Bruce Willis has 'cut her off', d) Her psychic advisor told her that Venus was in the right position for just such a spiritual female encounter. e) Demi was soooo drunk that she thought her psychic advisor was Bruce Willis. f) She was practicing for a her next TV movie, "The Melissa Etheridge Story." or g) She was just helping her psychic advisor remove something that was stuck between her teeth and at the time Demi's tongue seemed the best instrument to do that. 2) Demi said that she wasn't afraid to show her feelings to another woman. If that is so, do you think there's anything else she wouldn't be afraid to show? And here's one just for fun.... *********************************************** TV REVIEW: Xena A typical episode: Last week, Xena switched bodies with Callisto, a blonde knockout who is equally proficient with Xena's killer frisbee. But Xena's sidekick, Gabrielle, is not so convinced that it is Xena that is in Callisto's body. Gabrielle (suspicious): "If you're really Xena, what's my favorite kind of back rub?" Callisto: "Here, let me show you-" [Two hours later] Gabrielle, smoking a cigarette: "Yep, you're Xena!" *********************************************** ....Back to the regularly scheduled chatter.... Patti pattif@iadfw.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 03:04:02 -0500 From: SbHarvick at aol Subject: Memphis Hello everyone-- Three words will say it all--Memphis was *great* Review finished. Any questions? Okay, if you want details, continue reading (but don't say I didn't warn you--I'm tired and I ramble)..... Lister and AOL'er get together at BB King's (and through the evening): Sixteen of us showed up for food, beverages, and good times. As always, it's nice to be able to put faces to the names I see in my e-mailbox, and talk about Melissa without people looking at me like I'm nuts. I'm still amazed at the distances some people traveled. Nine states were represented--TN, MI, IL, MO, AR, LA, VA, MD, and PA--as I write this, half of the people are still on the road somewhere, and I hope they are not encountering the weather (heavy rain & slick roads) we had on our trip (my truck did its first "donut" today after I dropped off Kelley (yesiam1996) and her friend). I digress........ At BB's, we each wrote a message to Melissa on the back of a sign (which--at last report was given to her. Yeah, like she's really going to read it). In keeping with tradition, we had a toast, "Mean people suck." Strategies were planned for ticket trading--who was going to buy whose ticket based on seat location (jockeying for position, truly a riot--speaking as one who, thanks to MEIN, was in row 4). I think most of us had seen Sesame Street, so we talked a lot about wanting to be the letter "U." Some had already planned to take giant cardboard "U"s to the show, and they had *extras*. Soooooooo, on to the show....... The *only* way to travel in Memphis is riding in Catherine's convertible, top down, blaring ME and Bruce singing Thunder Road . We all met once again and started checking out seat locations. John Shanks was walking around trying to be inconspicuous, but being the real fans (tm) that we are.....autographs were had by all (another of the *many* things that worked). Beth, the Honda driving chick magnet, was rewarded for her long trek from PA with a seat in the 10th row (this also worked). Those of us who had a letter "U" were basically in the front rows for the show. As she has for every show I've been to this tour, Melissa began with IRLY. So, as she sang the chorus, all the U's went up--it was great--she really got a kick out of it. From then on, every time she used the word, "you," all the letters went up. At one point she stopped and explained to the rest of the audience about her appearance on Sesame Street, etc. She also told us that our arms would get tired, 'cause a lot of her songs have the word, "you." Renee, one of our group, had a souvenir from Leavenworth (which ME accepted, "Wow, a souvenir from my hometown!"). When ME went to do the set at the small stage, all the "U" people went to the center of the front stage, where we remained for the rest of the show (this also worked). I also had a sign that said, "St. Louis loves "U" and Elmo," which I held up every time she said something about Memphis (okay--I probably shouldn't have, but she did look at me and laughingly say, "stop," each time). Anyway, after the show, the stage hands gave the water glasses from the stage to people who were still there. Yes, a few of us have Melissa's germs in our bodies now--we drank the water that was left in her glass (no lectures, please, about sanitation--I've been taking antibiotics all week for my own cold). Actual concert report (for those still reading, again, be warned): Well, the sound was not very good where my seat was. I'm not sure about the rest of the venue, but there was way too much reverb. I thought Melissa looked tired, and she mentioned the fact that she wasn't feeling good. Her voice was not as strong (kind of hoarse) as I have heard her at other shows. She didn't try to sing sustained notes as she can do so well. The Memphis crowd was small; the entire upper circle was *empty*. I don't know how many seats are at the Coliseum, but pre-show ticket sales were at 3,000. There couldn't have been that many additional tickets sold yesterday. There were also apparently threats by people protesting gay/lesbian marriages, so she zoomed in and out of the venue quickly. No pre-show sound checks, etc. The set list was *exactly* the same as in St. Louis, except (and I guess this would be a highlight for some) she added a duet with country singer, Terri Clark, for You Can Sleep While I Drive. IMHO, it was a very nice addition. I have rambled way too long. It was a great weekend. To those of you who were there for the pre-show gathering--Cathi, Catherine, Kelley, Renee, John, Susan, Sue, Laurel, Cindy, Laura, Rhonda, Jill, Danielle, Julie and Beth, thank you for a very memorable weekend. I'll talk to y'all later, Susie (from St. Louis) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:21:11 EST From: "Diane M. Brundige" Subject: Texas memories - YEEHAAW Karen and I are still reeling from the fabulous 4 days we had in Texas. We met many great people and saw 3 terrific shows. I'd like to share with you some of the highlights: Austin - 11/15/96:................................................... We landed at 11:42am, having survive being seated next to , oh, shall we call him "Ralph". While waiting to meet up with 2 nonlisters, we met Dan (waving to the maple-leaf country) and ended up sharing a taxi with him. Upon our arrival at the hotel, M.E.I.N. had opened their doors to us and offered some merchandise and cocktails to get the tour a-rollin'. We found out that Melissa was not doing soundchecks before any shows and therefore we wouldn't be going to any (unless you count the videos we watched while on the bus ;)) Melissa really was having a good time in Austin, playing with the crowd, sno cones and cotton candy. She sounded good and looked rested. Our seats were in the 4th row on the aisle the band uses to return to the stage. As Kenny was returning, he high-fived Karen. As he started to go up the ramp, he tripped and nearly pulled Karen up to the stage with him. Her finger was a little sore but she managed to clap the rest of the evening. Thanks to our awesome bowling shirts (thanks again Joyce!), we were able to meet many listers. This rowdy bunch came crawling, stumbling down the aisle. We soon were face-to-face with Patti, Liz, SueD, Rachel, and others I didn't meet. We also met Janis and Claudia. After the show, this crew was kind enough to meet us at our hotel and took us out. Janis and Claudia drove us to the bar. We were pleasantly surprised it was a Honda!! We met the Honda chic-magnets of Texas!!! Karen and I even spent some time in the back seat ;) The bar was a hoppin but we didn't stay too long. Dan, Karen and I were exhausted from our long day of flying, a Melissa concert and we knew we had a long 3 days ahead of us so we headed back to the hotel. Dallas - 11/16-17:.................................................. Bus left Austin at 9am sharp. We arrived in Dallas around 1:30 and had some free time before the show. Karen and I ventured out with Amy(nonlister) and even got to ride around downtown Dallas in the back of a pickup truck (long story with, thankfully, a happy ending). At the show, we had 2nd row seats. Melissa looked really good this night and I personally think she played better than in Austin. This was the show where we passed the 25-foot liteBrite string up to the stage as Dan previously reported. After the concert, we went to The Ridge and partied. The owner, Sylvia, was a very gracious host. We hooked up with Patti, Rachel and SueD and had a great time. By the way, Rachel and Patti showed some great hip action (that gave us something to talk about!) which I think I happen to have caught on tape! I haven't viewed it yet but will report a review. (No releases were signed, so of course, it is for mine and Karen's eyes only - although we can be bribed ;)) These fine women also bought the bartenders a few shots and once they finished them off, a few body slams were made. The next morning, Sylvia and her staff held a brunch for us at The Ridge. After seeing the shots going down the night before, I was very impressed when these same bartenders showed up the next morning. They did inquire on the whereabouts of those crazy dancing, shot drinking, "Mean People Suck" toasters. We said they could be anywhere between California and New York, they way they travel (right SueD?). The brunch then ventured to a few bars but some of us branched off to see the sights of Dallas. Karen and I went to the Sixth Floor Museum, the site of President Kennedy's assassination in 1963. This was a very moving experience for us both and a highlight of the trip. I felt like it only happened yesterday when in fact the 33rd anniversary just past. Very sad. Houston - 11/18/96.................................................. Bus left for Houston at 7am. We stopped along the way to visit Sam Houston (no Shirl, not Sam Adams ;)) and immediately a kind Sheriff waved as on, but Curly, our bus driver, was persistent and found the entrance off the interstate. As for the concert, security here was very tight. Come to find out, there were some VIPs in attendance and rumor has it they were Julie's relatives! In fact, during the show, Melissa announced she was MARRIED to a Texan. Again, she seemed to be enjoying herself but I have to say the best show of all 3 was Dallas. Everyone on the tour brought a small Texas flag and we all waved it as she said "Hello Texas". She laughed at them. Later, as she was about to do SP (is that the right song Dan and Tei?), a cowboy threw his cowboy hat on stage. Melissa picked it up and we all coaxed her into wearing it. I must say she looked very good in it (did we have any doubt??). She wore it for the whole song as we all waved our flags. Toward the end of the show as we were all crowded around the stage, I held up the Texas flag as Melissa was right in front of us. She looked right at me and gave me the "I love you" sign. I took that as her way of acknowledging her fans and how much we mean to her. She truly does care and appreciates our affection and love of her music. All in all, it was a great trip. We got to shake her hand at each concert, Karen got a string from John and we took many pictures (12 in Austin, 27 or so in Dallas and apprx 60 in Houston). They came out great. Thank you to all the listers who came up and introduced themselves to us (Jill, Loretta, CC, and many others. It was great to put a face to the name!) Keep it Precious, Diane & Karen, forever waving our Texas flags! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:57:55 EST From: "Diane M. Brundige" Subject: On 11/24/96 at 2:56pm, Cum2mywndo@aol.com wrote: >Chance"(recorded live). This same bootleg also has "Outta My Mind"..a >song I really like but ME said it was a little too "pop" for her to >release on an album.(Tho Julie likes it alot!) Will be glad to trade! "Outta My Mind" is one of my all time favorites also! It really gets me moving. KiP, Diane, who is about to put Outta my Mind in her tape deck to get her going on this snowy Monday morning. P.S. Hey all you Dallasites - are you okay down there with all that snow?? We miss you and are thinking of ya! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:21:05 -0500 From: "Julie I. Lebaillif" Subject: Can you tell me how to get to .... No, not Sesame Street. I know someone recently posted how to get to the Melissa Etheridge chat area on AOL, but I deleted it. Could some kind soul please send it to me or post it again??? Thanks, Julie (& Olivier, who wanted me to tell you that he doesn't think Melissa is ugly and he really doesn't care for Catherine Deneuve, she's pretty but she's a snob from his point of view) P.S. Hi Tracy, you spelled the name perfectly, most of our Wedding cards said Lebaillis :0 Forget about pronouncing it, I still have trouble saying it :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:30:06 -0500 From: CJ Subject: Re: Touchy MELTS Contributor Sorry, Doug. And, no you don't need to get involved more than that. Thank you. CJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:32:37 -0500 From: CJ Subject: Re: MELTS-Nathalie I really do like your design. Feels kinda like YLS meets the Internet. Again, we run into the copyright thing and I haven't been able to get in touch with Leopold about that. CJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:07:47 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Meow... Hello everyone... I have a favor to ask all you wonderful listers... =) I got a kitten last night. I got her from an animal shelter that takes great care of animals and does not put them to sleep. It's The North Shore Animal League in Port Washington, NY... Okay... Now for the favor... I am lost for a name for this wonderful little kitty. She is grey and white with a dash of brown. She has wide eyes and a quiet meow... She has been hiding under the bed so far, but I am hoping to coax her out with some tuna... ... So... Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. E-mail me privatley or post it on the list... I would make it a small contest, but I have nothing to give as a reward in return except a hug and a smile... =) Thanks for listening... =) Hugs and smiles... Love, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:07:08 +0000 From: Renee Sweeney Subject: Melissalaneous Reply to: Melissalaneous Hey everybody- what's up? I've just been reading all our beautiful Digests and trying to catch up = on MLE info...Lots of fun stuff going on around here...as usual! The reason I really wrote is this- MEMPHIS show- Terri Clark came up onstage? Someone posted this, but didn't give any details- what's up with this? Someone who was at the show, please tell us more! This is important to me, because I have a bet-type thing going with someone and I need all the "clues" I can get! Anyway, saw MLE in Dallas and she ROCKED (as usual). The MEIN seats were pretty good. Saw SueD and Rachel, Liz Spector, Janis and Claudia- but NO PATTI! Patti- where the hell where you? Later on, went to The Ridge but couldn't get inside- missed seeing you guys there... SueD- I love you-You "light" up my life! Thanks! We had some ice and snow-type stuff over the weekend, so it's pretty quiet around here today. Short week for the holidays anyway, so I hope to hear back about the Memphis show soon?!? I missed MLE on Sesame Street- really bummed about that- anyone want to send me a tape? Speaking of tape- thanks for the tape Jill(and Laurel)! At least *someone* in Houston remembers I exist (ahem ahem) (hello AngelaHuman?) To all my buds out there in ListerLand, I say, "Happy Holidays!" Hope everyone here has a wonderful time with those you love... Well, everyone wish me luck cause I am off to the slopes in just a few days here- cross your fingers for no broken bones! Isn't snow soft? Great Monday guys- is there such a thing as that? lizdougangelajilllaurelsued-lovey'all! Renee' (in Dallas, where it's just a little chilly out there!) 4 more days to SKIING!!!! 17 more days till Jud gets to TEXAS!!!!YES!!!! p.s.Okay, now that the TexasTourPackage has come and gone, I think it's safe for me to tell everyone out there who doesn't know- NOBODY in Texas says "yeehaw"- at least, I've been here for 30 years (all my = life) and I never heard it- anyone else out there know for sure ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:10:30 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: Re: Grease v. U Michelle wrote: > Kare wrote: > >>Kare, who can't wait to go home and watch "Grease". >> >>Grease is the word, is the word, that you heard, its got groove its got >>meaning..... > > Yeah, but can it spell a, neat word like Umbrella? I think not. Talk about your "fair weathered friends". Sure you can spell with grease, that is if you don't mind getting your hands a little dirty. Oh and Michelle, only you would make a case out of this.....sheesh. Kare, who hopes Michelle wasn't trying to rain on her parade. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:32:02 EST From: "Vanessa A. Brown" Subject: Re: Meow... --- Kiva wrote: I am lost for a name for this wonderful little kitty. She is grey and white with a dash of brown. She has wide eyes and a quiet meow --- end of quoted material --- My ex got one of newest kitties, we had just gotten her and named her "Sophie"...because she was indeed trouble. :) Our second choice name was "Indigo" because of her grayish/blue color (and of course the Indigo Girls) Do either of those hit any notes for you? Take care.... Vanessa NH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:32:59 EST From: "Diane M. Brundige" Subject: Demi's outing (haha) Patti, Gosh, has all that snow frozen your *brain*?? ;) You asked: >2) Demi said that she wasn't afraid to show her feelings to another >woman. If that is so, do you think there's anything else she >wouldn't be afraid to show? Considering the poise she did for Vogue(I think that was the mag) while she was pregnant and VERY nekkid, I don't think she would hold back on anything! Now, about that TV movie she may have been practicing for... I'm not an actress but I'm willing to try out for the part of *Julie*! KiP, Diane (& Karen) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:46:31 EST From: Virginia Siskavich Subject: Ignorance Hi All. I realize that this is probably not the best place to touch base on this topic but I figure that it's a start. First of all, the magazine comments in the last edition upset me. I don't think that anyone can understand love...hey, I'm a lesbian and I don't understand why...But the point is that ignorance is not bliss. If an educated (?) doctor refuses to put a magazine in his office because of its homosexual content how will anyone even begin to try understanding? If anything, more literature and more publicity needs to be brought out into the communities. There was one woman who wrote to Newsweek saying something like she was against the whole homosexual issue but after seeing how happy Melissa and Julie looked she changed her mind. After seeing how happy that lesbian couple looked, things cleared for her to see that love is a broad spectrum and something so joyful--that feels so right can't be wrong. And to the girl who wrote the heart-felt letter, my heart goes out to you. I am 18 and telling my mother that I was with a woman was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do. She feels resentment towards my girlfriend (like it's her fault) and still, I haven't told my father...although he assumes it. I am continually wrestling with inner turmoil between my family and my love and I figure that I would be miserable without either party but am hoping that with time, sitting down for a meal with my family and my girlfriend will not be an event that is full of anxiety. Time and education are key concepts. I don't expect my family to be immediately supportive. I just hope that with time they will see that it is not what you love, rather who you love that matters. Sorry for blabbing but I had to get that off my chest. "The price of hating other human beings is loving oneself less"-Eldridge Clever "Let us be grateful to the people who make us happy; they are the charming gardeners who make our souls blossom"-Marcel Proust "Love can not be categorized as homosexual, heterosexual, right or wrong. It is not what you love, rather who you love that matters"-my girlfriend!!! (xoxo) Sorry all...just one last thought before I finally sign off... What is the definition of normal? Former Pres. Bush is left-handed (as am I) and left-handedness is not normal either, if normal means "in the majority". Just keep that in mind... -V ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:44:14 EST From: "Sue Morzajew, McGill University" Subject: MELTS... Hey Everyone, So, there are people out there that are interested in this project. I'm glad to hear it... A couple of things: 1) Keep the ideas coming. The logos we have seen so far have been great. I'm really impressed. Let's keep it flowing... 2) We will not use the list email address anywhere on the shirt at this time. However, we can use - thank you Dave and Glenna - the WWW home page address. Keep this in mind when you are thinking about the design of the logo and/or shirt itself. 3) Someone suggested that we have something other than a t-shirt. What else is there? I have not yet contacted my source with this project but I do have an idea on what the t-shirt pricing will be. Any suggestions on what else we could use instead of a regular old t-shirt? How important is cost? T-shirts are pretty affordable... 4) I like the idea of a small logo on the front-left breast. Maybe the Web address on the back across the shoulders? 5) Please use "MELTS" in the subject line of you mail when discusiing this project. I get alot of mail in one day, and sort it by subject. This will make it much easier for me and others... Well, that's all for now. Hope to hear from you all soon, Sue ccsm@musica.mcgill.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:15:00 -0500 From: CHAOS Subject: VH1 top 10 artists that took a gamble VH1 has a new (?) show out of the "top 10 artists that took a gamble" (ITHO). It aired once last week that I know of, but it's bound to be a multiple repeat as is every VH1 production. Melissa tops the list with a number 1 billing, and I quote: "Melissa etheride I'm the Only One - Melissa decided to "come out of the closet" during the release of her fourth album, which turned out to be her most successufl LP ever." 2-10 include Prince, Madonna, George Michael, Janet Jackson, Sting, Natalie Merchant, John Mellencamp, Sheryl Crow, and Whitney Houston. - - Audrey - - "Got me enough guilt I could start my own religion..." - Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:00:23 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: Voor NEDERLANDERSE listmembers ! Hello listmembers, We would like to ask the dutch listmembers some questions. Hopefully nobody gets angry if we do it in dutch because we would like to reach as many dutch 'lurkers' and 'non-lurkers' as possible. Hopefully in this form it's in the picture most. For those who would like to get a translation in English let me know privately and I will send you one. Here we go: *** Hallo allemaal, We willen graag weten hoeveel mensen uit nederland (of uit het duits/belgische grensgebied) deze mailtjes lezen. We zouden ook graag willen weten of jullie allemaal grote fans zijn. Het idee erachter is een peiling te houden wie eventueel interesse heeft in een ontmoeting op kleine schaal van enkele fans van deze ME mailing list in Nederland. Zou je het leuk vinden mensen te ontmoeten waarvan je de verhalen leest of waaraan je ooit eens mailtjes hebt geschreven, laat ons dat dan even weten. Misschien kunnen we eens in een kleine groep bij elkaar komen op een voor iedereen zo gunstig mogelijke plek. Dit geeft mogelijkheden tot het uitwisselen van tapes en video's, uitwisselen van ervaringen, en het gezellig nuttigen van een overheerlijke consumptie. Als je het leuk zou vinden ooit eens aan een ontmoeting deel te nemen laat dat dan even weten via: (Marleen) of (Marcel) Voorlopig is het alleen een peiling. Bij genoeg belangstelling wordt het misschien wel uitgevoerd. *** end of this message. Thanks for understanding. Hope to write in english again soon! Bye, Marleen and Marcel BTW: we can make a quiz out of this. The person with the most correct translation (ofcoarse only for people who can't speak or write dutch) will be introduced to this list as the most talented translater in the world. (;-)) __________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:18:22 -0500 From: Donk Subject: Memphis Well, my dream (part of it) came true this past weekend in Memphis. both of my hands touched Melissa's left hand as she was departing from the stage... I touched her boot and her soft, velour black pants. I touched John's boot and pants and shook his hand as well, got his autograph on my ticket stub because he was walking around the venue with an off-white sweater and jeans and ball cap trying to go unnoticed (and he was for the most part unless you were looking for him), and I also got to touch Kenny on his way off. Took practically a whole roll of film since I was right at the stage (I was able to hide it pretty well). I was so tempted to jump on stage after touching Melissa--I could've done it easily by jumping up on the table where Cam 3 was... but then of course I would've been kicked out for the ending of the very last last song. I certainly didn't want that... Mark was the only one I didn't get to touch. I was very envious of some of my friends (from St Louis, you know who you are) who were at the center stage (I was at right front), got to drink out of Melissa's water cup (and she has a touch of a cold, she said)... But I certainly can't complain of my experiences in Memphis!! I'm just so excited, but now in withdrawal after the long, what turned out to be 17-hour drive til I finally got home and into bed! Catherine cnd@engin.umich.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:27:43 -0500 From: Diane Boccadoro Subject: Storytellers and Dalmatians Saw Storytellers ... yea!!! I was bummed that she cut short Testify and left out the middle verse of WY, but I guess she wanted to fit in as many songs as she could. Seeing her perform acoustic in that setting, so one-to-one with her audience, made me see some of the newer songs in a better light (ATWTH, NTG). I appreciate them a little more now, but I still prefer pre-NE stuff. The show also made me yearn for the small-venue days, which I do think will be returning. I don't think she'll be playing the corner pub, but I don't think a 5000-seat show will be out of the question. I think by the next tour a lot of the peripheral fans will have found a new flavor of the month. (Think about where Huey Lewis & The News played after Sports' popularity waned.) Now, I hope nobody gets their panties in a twist because they think I'm putting down a certain type of fan, but I think it's silly to repeat in every paragraph, or even every post, that what I write is "my opinion, hope no one takes this the wrong way" just to appease a select few who want to think that all posts are aimed at them or that certain posts carry hidden messages. (If you read this backward, it actually says that MLE is straight. ) Allow me to stand on my soap box for a brief moment about a totally different subject: I'm sure I'll be one of the first people on line to see 101 Dalmatians this weekend, and I'll probably be the only one there without a kid. I'm an admitted Dal-maniac. I've owned my 5-year-old Dal, Hobbes, since he was 9 weeks old and I wouldn't trade him for anything. However, if I knew then what I know now, I never would have gotten him. Now, as with people, all dogs should be judged on their individual personalities (talent and swim suit competitions are optional ), but as a rule, Dalmatians are NOT good with small children, and they are high-strung and VERY energetic. They need LOTS of exercise every day to be happy and healthy. They take a lot of time and attention and CONSISTENCY or they will be running your household. They also are prone to kidney problems, and about 30% are born partially or completely deaf. I was warned before I got my Dal and I said, "No way. I've owned dogs all my life and never had problems." HA! At 10 weeks and about 5 pounds, Hobbes had me an emotional wreck. He was pure evil with black spots and a cute pink nose! So before you run out and buy one because they looked so adorable in the movie or your kid is whining that he wants a Pongo dog, please do a little research and talk to reputable trainers or breeders, *then* decide if a Dal is for you. Remember, pets are for life, not for Christmas (or Hannukah or Kwanza). Thank you. I'll step down now. Diane B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:01:54 GMT From: Maggie at avalon Subject: Re: VH1 top 10 artists that took a gamble At 03:15 PM 11/25/96 -0500, you wrote: >VH1 has a new (?) show out of the "top 10 artists that took a >gamble" (ITHO). It aired once last week that I know of, but it's >bound to be a multiple repeat as is every VH1 production. >Melissa tops the list with a number 1 billing, snip... >2-10 include Prince, Madonna, George Michael, Janet Jackson, >Sting, Natalie Merchant, John Mellencamp, Sheryl Crow, and >Whitney Houston. Seems to me that k.d. lang ought to be on this list somewhere. I'd even prefer to see her at #1 instead of MLE. Coming out as a country artist, before MLE, doing PETA's controversial ad, changing genres...she's taken several big gambles and survived them all. But then again, it is a *VH-1* top ten. Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:07:40 -0600 From: Kathryn Davis Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 23 Nov 1996 to 24 Nov 1996 Hey all of you ME listers and listeners! I just wanted to write a line or two about the Memphis show! I had 2nd row tickets and somehow got right up to the front of the stage! I got Kenny's drum stick and John's guiter pick, and last but definitely not least I have Melissa's guitar pick. Talk about getting to shake hands with my musical idol. It was the best night of my life. To all of the listers that wrote back to me about getting together in Memphis, I had an unfortunate mishap and barely got there in time for the show to start! I was flying down 72W towards Memphis with my tires on fire! (Figuratively speaking of course!) Anyway, "Hello" to all who were there and those who are going to see ME's show later...you're in for a treat. I must say, however, that we did get one special treat by ME inviting Terri Clark up on stage for "You Can Sleep While I Drive." That was amazing. I talked to Terri afterwards and she was just about as excited as I was! You all have a wonderful Thanksgiving and travel safely if you'll be on the road, in the air, or however else you choose to get where you're going. Musically, Kat --- Melissa is God. kdavis@unaalpha.una.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:16:02 -0500 From: Donk Subject: Austin I just wanted to share that Austin is due on MY birthday (25 Jan)!... at least, so I heard... :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:17:11 -0700 From: KJJ Subject: Re: Storytellers and Dalmatians So before you run out and buy one because they looked so adorable in the movie or your kid is whining that he wants a Pongo dog, please do a = little research and talk to reputable trainers or breeders, *then* decide if a = Dal is for you. Remember, pets are for life, not for Christmas (or Hannukah = or Kwanza). Thank you. I'll step down now. Diane B. As the owner of an 11-week-old Dalmatian, I can verify everything Diane = said. Dalmatians are adorable, smart, and fun-loving. They are also = stubborn hell raisers. I love my little Dal, Haley, but in the last five = weeks, she has chewed on the baseboards of my house; caused me to fall = down the stairs; and eaten a whole through several pillows. Despite all = this, I think most Dalmatian owners would say I got away easy. I guess my point is . . . everywhere I go, children attack my puppy, but = Dalmatians are not good dogs for young children--one hit from the = Dalmatian's whip-like tail will send a 4 or 5-year-old flying across the = yard. So, as Diane emphasized, you should carefully research before = taking on the responsibility of owning a Dalmatian. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 03:48:11 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Marc Rocco Rla@MAILHUB.TOWNSEND.COM wrote: >in addition, in honor of MLE's role in the marc rocco version of the >janis joplin movie, i've added her janis tribute from woodstock 1994 >to the end of the tape. Speaking of the movie... I watched "Murder in the First" (the movie with Christian Slater defending Attica (sp?) prisoner Kevin Bacon in a murder trial), and noticed that it was directed by Marc Rocco. That movie was outstanding (the acting, the script, and the direction)... anyone know what other movies Rocco has done? -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-23 03:48 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "I see the same shit every day/ the landscape looks so bleak/ I think I'll take the first one of you home/ that does something unique." - Ani DiFranco, "Face Up and Sing" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:55:43 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Ignorance Virginia Siskavich wrote: >First of all, the magazine comments in the last edition upset me. >ignorance is not bliss. If an educated (?) doctor refuses to put a >magazine in his office because of its homosexual content how will >anyone even begin to try understanding? Until I read those letters, I didn't really think about how controversial that cover might be, with 2 women embracing. As far as the doctor who didn't keep the magazine in his/her lobby... So many of you are scared to come out at work for fear of losing your jobs, can you really blame the doctor who is afraid of losing patients? Or the doctor who feels homosexuality is immoral? Personally, I think that's their option; as long as they don't infringe on my rights they can think whatever they like, and live their lives and run their businesses accordingly. >If anything, more literature >and more publicity needs to be brought out into the communities. This isn't the responsibility of a doctor, though one who wants to do this is certainly a welcome ally. >There was one woman who wrote to Newsweek saying something like she >was against the whole homosexual issue but after seeing how happy >Melissa and Julie looked she changed her mind. That letter felt very fake to me, I'd bet money a lesbian wrote it. -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-23 05:55 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo __________________________________________________________________________ "Me and you and your girlfriend makes three/ in the interest of even numbers/ I will make myself scarce" - Ani DiFranco, "How Have You Been" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 03:59:22 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Roxy Carmichael, Joey, copied negs (SMEC) mary harbaugh wrote: >I finally got to see Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael again...haven't seen it >in quite a while. I'm trying to tape Don't Look at Me (is that its name?) >from the video- I kinda like it. Anybody know if it was written >specifically for the movie? As far as I know. I like it a lot too. >I'm still looking for a couple of copied negatives of ME shots, Why negatives? Just curious. -- Deb \ indigo@clark.net \ 11-23 03:59 EST \ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ___________________________________________________________________________ "I build each one of my songs out of glass/ so you could see me inside them I suppose/ or you could just leave the image of me/ in the background I guess/ and watch your own reflection superimposed." - Ani DiFranco, "Overlap" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:34:08 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: Voor NEDERLANDERSE listmembers ! Hi, everybody, Marcel and Marleen said: >>BTW: we can make a quiz out of this. The person with the most correct translation (ofcoarse only for people who can't speak or write dutch) will be introduced to this list as the most talented translater in the world. (;-))<< I wanna play! >>Hallo allemaal,<< That's gotta be "Hi, all y'all!" ;-) Okay, just kidding. I won't even attempt a word-for-word translation, but it seemed to me you were asking for Dutch listers to identify themselves so you guys could all possibly meet each other and maybe even trade tapes, videos, etc. Email either Marcel or Marleen. Is that the gist? Later, gators, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:59:20 -0500 From: Karen Di Donato Subject: NMEC: Northampton and Digest Hello! There is a possibility that I might be moving out to Northampton area when my S.O. accepts a job offer there. I am wondering who is from that area who might be able to help me out by assisting me in finding information on housing, jobs, and all the fun things that area of Western MA has to offer! Secondly, what's up with the digest? I got a 1/2 digest, now I don't have any at all! Hmm.... Thanks! <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Despite the cost of living, it continues to remain popular. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Karena@ibm.net ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 24 Nov 1996 to 25 Nov 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Tue Nov 26 00:00:44 1996 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:00:05 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 25 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:14:02 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Memphis Melissa Trip Around 6am Saturday morning, with the sun coming up behind us and our 12-hour car ride, the "950 Mile Club" (two AOLers and MLister Beth Honda driver) looked at one another and said, "What the HELL are we doing?" and then we laughed. We must be crazy! Wow. Many hours and miles later I am still smiling about our Memphis experience. It was the best. You have to make long car rides fun. Fortunately, we had plenty of Melissa, a video camera, and four women who got very punchy after a few hours! Put it this way: among other things, we will never listen to Duets' "St. Theresa" in quite the same way ever! And no matter what Beth says, I behaved! ;) We saw Melissa Saturday in Memphis on 3 hours sleep, one meal, and too many visions of tacky decorating, thanks to our visit to Graceland! :) After not catching Melissa before the show (Rhonda, an AOLer from Arkansas) nearly took out some slow-footed Memphis football fans on our way into the Mid-South Coliseum parking lot) we headed over to Beale St. to BB Kings, where we met the MListers/AOLers/Ridgers (Trying Too, KissdaGirl, Rowdy Renee, SBHarvick, YESIAM1996, Kathy and Kelli and others)...we managed to eat in between photo sessions, ticket/seat comparisions, and cries of, "Omigod, *YOU'RE* (insert screen name here)!!!!!!!!" Everyone was so nice! We had a great time--I suggest that if you get the chance, go to a "gathering"! They are so fun and it's great to meet the people behind the screen names! AND, I agree with Gestalt22 (Julie), those BB Kings fried pickles were TDF ("To Die For")...maybe Melissa should get some for Julie during the rest of her pregnancy? :) One more photo session--this one at the top of Beale St--and we were off to the show! MEIN seats were "eh"...16th row on the side for me and Rhonda...a disappointment after being 3rd row at Nissan in August. BUT, while there I met John Shanks, who was walking around with my Sharpie, which he asked Gestalt22 for after he was so nice about signing our stuff. He still had it at the signing session after the show, although by then it was low on juice...he signed a lot! He was so cool. I think he was amused by my copy of "I Wish I Was Your Lover" and he signed it. He just rocked. In the not-crowded Coliseum, a woman who said she was a tour photographer took pictures of our signs... I held up "Drove 950 Miles" during IWTCO, and Melissa got this look on her face like, "You're NUTS"--at least that was my interpretation! (Maybe she was just squinting?) :0 Then, during "Shriner's Park", I held up my SP sign. It was my favorite sign, since SP speaks volumes on the experiences of many of us, and it just goes "right there" every time I hear it. The Coliseum was darker during SP, so I don't know if Melissa saw it or not. My final sign wished Melissa and the band a happy Thanksgiving...held it up after LTWID in the crush of people at the front. Being 5'3, I ended up standing on a chair to hold the sign up b/c I was getting pushed around and I couldn't hold up the sign over everyone who was towering over me. Thanks to the chair, I got over everybody long enough to have Melissa point and smile. Rhonda and I freaked out when MLE introduced Terri Clark on the second stage! Apparently she is a big Melissa fan. Terri looked really cute; and, bless her heart, she was wearing a flannel shirt! They dueted on YCSWID, and half the time it seemed like Terri was a little embarrassed or flustered or something...she kept bending over and covering her face. We tried to figure out if that was because they were having some difficulty w/the duet (besides the height difference between MLE and Terri) or if she was singing a breakup song w/a woman, or because all these women were screaming at her. Maybe all three? Anyway, it was so cool she sang. We saw Terri hanging out with the band after the show. Melissa was very chatty through most of the show. I think she liked the signs (particularly the "U"s) and I think that despite the small crowd size, the people that were there were VERY enthusiastic. She kept saying how much she liked Memphis. After the show we met John (again) and Kenny. They were so great. Kenny was also like, "What is this?" to my copy of "I Wish I Was Your Lover", which he too signed. I snapped some pics, but forgot to ask Kenny where he got that fabulous silver shirt he was wearing! (Kenny, are you borrowing from Melissa's closet again??) :) For the Melissa FP, she was wearing some cool black pants (velvet?) with buttons up the side and a denim shirt...I couldn't see the shoes...Docs maybe? Then they were off...and we kept trying to forget that we will not be seeing another concert for a long long while. (sigh) The car ride home--14 hours--was tough. Luckily we had memories of our Memphis trip to last us those long hours, 'til the next time, and for always! Jill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 21:44:36 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: OKC - Nov. 22 OK, I'll de-lurk long enough to say "hi" and tell you about the OKC show last Friday. ME was great, best show I've seen! Julie's parents live in Edmond, OK (just north of OKC), so she had nice things to say about OKC (although my gf and I, recently of Austin, did not necessarily agree with her). Actually, I grew up in Edmond, OK, and am about the same age as Julie, so my gf and I ventured to my old high school to see if by chance she had gone to my old school (no luck, but going back to my old h.s. after all that time was a trip just in and of itself; got to see the old algebra-teaching bastard that swacked me with a paddle when I was in 9th grade!) Anyway, about the show. We had 3rd row seats, right along the walkway, so needless to say we had about the best seats in the house. A str8 couple next to us mentioned that they won their tickets on a radio give-away. They left about 30 minutes into the show (I guess they realized with all the dancing dykes that ME must be seeing about a woman!). I have to say, in all deference to k.d. lang, whose "All You Can Eat" tour had been my favorite concert of all time (outdoors in Austin), that this ME show was the best I've ever seen. I haven't taken my ME CD's out of the changer since the day I bought the tickets! ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 25 Nov 1996 *********************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Wed Nov 27 00:00:48 1996 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 00:00:08 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 25 Nov 1996 to 26 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:16:46 -0600 From: Patti Fink Subject: Austin/Dallas Concerts Diane Brundige (& her inimitable PIP, Karen) wrote: > Patti, > > Gosh, has all that snow frozen your *brain*?? ;) > > You asked: > >2) Demi said that she wasn't afraid to show her feelings to another > >woman. If that is so, do you think there's anything else she > >wouldn't be afraid to show? > > Considering the pose she did for Vogue(I think that was the mag) > while she was pregnant and VERY nekkid, I don't think she would hold > back on anything! > > Now, about that TV movie she may have been practicing for... I'm not > an actress but I'm willing to try out for the part of *Julie*! Good luck, chick! I just know you can't scrootch your face up like Julie can, so maybe you oughta give it up! and also, of the Dallas show: >At the show, we had 2nd row seats. Melissa looked really good this > night and I personally think she played better than in Austin. I think it was because she was more rested. Of course, she was REALLY rested (having had a full day off) for the Houston show, you lucky *&%$^#*!! Of Austin, Diane declared: > We found out that Melissa was not doing soundchecks before any shows > and therefore we wouldn't be going to any (unless you count the videos > we watched while on the bus ;)) And you missed the mini-Fajita Fest!!! Can you believe it?!!!! For what??!!!! Damn! We would have soooo enjoyed you there! > Melissa really was having a good time in Austin, playing with the > crowd, sno cones and cotton candy. She sounded good and looked > rested. Mmmmm! Got pix of Melissa choosing the BLUE snocone...after having already chosen the blue cotton candy, promptly placed in Kenny's bass. ATWTH!!!! My pix turned out GREAT! Soooo close, too! RIGHT in front ot me! Did I ever mention that in Austin at the small stage Melissa gave me her pick personally? > Thanks to our awesome bowling shirts (thanks again Joyce!), we were > able to meet many listers. This rowdy bunch came crawling, stumbling > down the aisle. We soon were face-to-face with Patti, Liz, SueD, > Rachel, and others I didn't meet. We also met Janis and Claudia. > After the show, this crew was kind enough to meet us at our hotel and > took us out. Janis and Claudia drove us to the bar. We were > pleasantly surprised it was a Honda!! We met the Honda chic-magnets > of Texas!!! Karen and I even spent some time in the back seat ;) "Rowdy"??? Wherever do you get *that* impression! > The bar was a hoppin but we didn't stay too long. Dan, Karen and I > were exhausted from our long day of flying, a Melissa concert and we > knew we had a long 3 days ahead of us so we headed back to the hotel. Sorry I missed your departure that evening....Raunchy & I were at the bar in deep discussion, and by the time we made it back to the general floor, everyone was gone but Liz & Sue. I had to reenact my Melissa-to-Patti-pick-hand-off again, so everyone was, of course, spellbound. > Karen and I ventured out with > Amy(nonlister) and even got to ride around downtown Dallas in the > back of a pickup truck (long story with, thankfully, a happy ending). I am intrigued but am afraid to ask.... (Dallasite that I am...) I have a convertible but, alas, we did not hook up with you on Sunday...NOT from lack of trying! Did you ever get our messages??? (Raunchy speaking on my behalf) > At the show, we had 2nd row seats. Melissa looked really good this > night and I personally think she played better than in Austin. This > was the show where we passed the 25-foot liteBrite string up to the > stage as Dan previously reported. That was just TOO cool!! Melissa was havin' a GREAT time with it! I don't think anybody's post does the moment justice! It was FABulous when MLE got into it and started putting it all over Kenny's set! > After the concert, we went to The Ridge and partied. The owner, > Sylvia, was a very gracious host. We hooked up with Patti, Rachel > and SueD and had a great time. By the way, Rachel and Patti showed > some great hip action (that gave us something to talk about!) NO no! Given my voice state, it was "Let's give 'em sumpthin' to TYPE about"!!! > which I > think I happen to have caught on tape! I haven't viewed it yet but > will report a review. (No releases were signed, so of course, it is > for mine and Karen's eyes only - although we can be bribed ;)) What's your price, woman?! ;) > These > fine women also bought the bartenders a few shots and once they > finished them off, a few body slams were made. Only WE will know what they did behind that bar! W-O-W!! Or did you catch it on tape, Diane? BTW, I was REALLY interested in the trivia thing going on on the video game ...did you by chance catch some of it? I never got the correct answer to a REALLY important one! > They did inquire on the whereabouts of those crazy dancing, shot > drinking, "Mean People Suck" toasters. Well, we were -- I think -- pretty well snoozin' at that hour. Hope you had a good "Mean People Suck" toast for us, in our stead! Those women were WILD!!! 'Twill definitely have to go there again! I didn't realize it was their grand opening....gosh, that women's bar's been around forever....just changes its name faster than banks! >Again, she seemed to be enjoying herself but I > have to say the best show of all 3 was Dallas. Sorry, there, Jill & Laurel...Angela....Jonti....Renae... > We got to shake her hand at each > concert, Karen got a string from John and we took many pictures (12 > in Austin, 27 or so in Dallas and apprx 60 in Houston). They came > out great. I'll trade ja! I'd LOVE more pix of Melissa....and mine came out REALLY good at the small stage in Austin...where she gave me the pick! Did I tell ya????! I'll trade ja! Write me, Diane! > Thank you to all the listers who came up and introduced themselves > to us (Jill, Loretta, CC, and many others. It was great to put a > face to the name!) Uh....'SCUSE ME!! Believe I did!!! > P.S. Hey all you Dallasites - are you okay down there with all that > snow?? We miss you and are thinking of ya! Well, it has sucked for several days now....primarily because someone slashed my convertible top (making me oh-so vulnerable to rain)....but I've managed by simply NOT getting out! *Still* awaiting a 95 top from Japan.... Renee (recently-email-handicapped-and-not-sure-she's-recovered) espoused: >Anyway, saw MLE in Dallas and she ROCKED (as usual). The MEIN >seats were pretty good. Saw SueD and Rachel, Liz Spector, Janis and >Claudia- but NO PATTI! Patti- where the hell where you? Later on, went >to The Ridge but couldn't get inside- missed seeing you guys there... >SueD- I love you-You "light" up my life! Thanks! Hi there, Renee! All these people kept coming up to me, "Did you see Renee....with her short hair?....I did!" But not me! :( Guess I got stuck elsewhere. Sorry we missed you at The Ridge! I'm hoping to have a Melissa party for us Dallas MElisters the Friday before Christmas......Any chance you could make it? Ain't SueD GREAT???!!!!! One of the highest quality MElisters I've EVER encountered! >I missed MLE on Sesame Street- really bummed about that- anyone >want to send me a tape? Speaking of tape- thanks for the tape Jill(and >Laurel)! At least *someone* in Houston remembers I exist (ahem ahem) >(hello AngelaHuman?) I caught it on tape and would be happy to dub it for ya....think you could either provide me with an addresss or surface long enough to give you sumpthin' Melissa??? We see each other so rarely.... >p.s.Okay, now that the TexasTourPackage has come and gone, I think >it's safe for me to tell everyone out there who doesn't know- NOBODY >in Texas says "yeehaw"- at least, I've been here for 30 years (all my = >life) and I never heard it- anyone else out there know for sure Amen!!! Ditto!!! So, Dan, how's those jalapenoes settling with you now??? Still a fan? ? ? ? ?? Renee, when do you get back from your skiing trip with you gf? (Sorry about the misunderstanding....I thought you said something else....) Will you be back in time for a little MElister shindig at my place before Christmas? Break a leg! (...or so they say! Been on *many* a ski trip where they said that, I assure you, and it came to naught! Indeed, we attributed to our resulting good health! :) Enough for now.....Hi, Sue! Hi, Rachel!.....'nuf said thereafter.....(to which I know you agree! ) Patti pattif@iadfw.net "Life is a process. Lesbian life is the process of processing the process." - Shelly Roberts ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:26:21 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: Re: ... copied negs ... Hi, Deb, all, You were wondering why negs... I'm interested in negatives for a couple of reasons. I already have pictures, but thanks to one of the cats, they were pretty much destroyed with spilled glue this evening. (waaah!) I'm gonna wait till it dries to see what I can salvage... : ( I also am looking for negatives beacause I have access to our school's darkroom, and lots & lots of light sensitive paper, left over from Photography class last year. I'd *love* to process MLE pics how I want to see them, dodging & burning the places I want, blowing it up to what size I want, or shrinking it to that size, etc.- just to have a more personalised (for me anyway) MLE pic. I *don't* want negs to print pictures to in any way claim as my images, or use in any sort of publication. Just want a nice image for my personal space (like my wall). Just an ache, I guess, to be alone in a darkroom with Melissa Take care! mary h. lostwomyn@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:30:45 -0500 From: Jen Subject: Kitty names Kiva- We have a little gray kitty that used to hide under the bed. She ended up with the name Monster, short for "That d*** monster under the bed!" She would come out long enough to eat and bite me and then run back. When we first got her she jumped out of my arms and straight into the swimming pool. I guess she still thinks I threw her in, even though it was me who jumped in after her. :) Have you ever seen "Cats"? If your little bundle ever comes out you could call her RumpleTeaser as no kitten ever born can resist jumping on feet nestled snugly in bed. Good luck in your name hunt. Bright Blessings Jen The secret of Happiness is Freedom The secret of Freedom is Courage The secret of Courage is Love ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 02:25:36 -0500 From: Redsocks Subject: Re: Marc Rocco Deb asked: >anyone know what other movies Rocco has done? His first movie was "Dream A Little Dream", a teen-romance body-switching ... mishmash (near as I could tell, Jason Robards' spirit entered Corey Feldman's body while Feldman was trying to put the moves on Meredith Salenger, who may or may not have had Piper Laurie's spirit in her. Or something.) He also did a film about street kids, can't remember any particulars. -- Redsocks (no, I'm not from Boston) matthewb@li.net http://www.li.net/~matthewb/ Epistulam transmitto, ergo sum (I e-mail, therefore I am). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 02:55:44 -0500 From: Michelle Partin Subject: bleached-kitty bath, kiva-kitty, 101 dalmations hi!! there have been a few things i've wanted to post about but lets face it *****IVE BEEN LAZY***** anyway, first i should say i work as an obedience instructor at a rather large pet chain (ya, ya, ya, i'm the dominant one so look out!!!) and i also have worked in the grooming area and in the rest of the store. mary, next time you have to bath your cat, clip the nails first (have some quick stop handy just in case you "quick" her/him) then tape some masking tape and LIGHTLY go around the paws once with it. cats have to spread their "wittwo toesies" out in order to claw you!! the tape doesn't pull there hair out! kiva it must be fate. as i was reading the list i thought of my friends new kitty (which was dumped off in the parking lot of the store. we don't sell cats or dogs instead we have an outreach center for the humane society to adopt animals out. people are always leaving unwanted pets on the grounds "knowing" we'll find a home for them!! get ready to raise your glass "MEAN PEOPLE SUCK" babble ... anyway my friend named her gray kitten sophie, so that too is my sugestion. it also sounds so cut when you say "sophie-kitty" diane, i want to thank you for your post!!! i have been very frightened of this movie being released!! being an ob. instructor, i have worked with dal's and as you said they are not always great tempered. i have loved all the ones i have had the pleasure of working with but if not well exersized and socialized your gonna have problems. thanks, i'm off my soapbox now. if anybody has questions feel free to ask!! michelle (honda driving babe) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:22:13 EST From: mary harbaugh Subject: Re: bleached-kitty bath, kiva-kitty, 101 dalmations Michele Partin had words of wisdom on how to keep from getting gashed while bathing naughty, lets-drink&spill-bleach-kitties. Thank you!!!!! : ) What I'm wondering is if you have any suggestions for kitties who spill glue all over Melissa concert photos??? ...I'm gonna rename that cat "Trouble", cause that's his area of expertise, but he knows he can get away with it cause he's so darn cute!!!! sulking more, mary h. lostwomyn@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:26:43 -0500 From: Donk Subject: MLETHER Digest - 24 Nov 1996 to 25 Nov 1996 - Special issue (fwd) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:07:47 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Meow... Hello everyone... I am lost for a name for this wonderful little kitty. She is grey and white with a dash of brown. She has wide eyes and a quiet meow... She has been hiding under the bed so far, but I am hoping to coax her out with some tuna... ... ***HOW ABOUT "ALEX" ? Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 05:55:43 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: Ignorance >There was one woman who wrote to Newsweek saying something like she >was against the whole homosexual issue but after seeing how happy >Melissa and Julie looked she changed her mind. >>That letter felt very fake to me, I'd bet money a lesbian wrote it. ****SOME OF US HAVE CHANGED OUR MINDS BECAUSE OF MELISSA AND JULIE!! DON'T BE TOO SURE OF IT... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:49:13 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: Lefthandedness: Write Or Wrong Virginia wrote: > Sorry all...just one last thought before I finally sign off... > What is the definition of normal? Former Pres. Bush is left-handed > (as am I) and left-handedness is not normal either, if normal means > "in the majority". Just keep that in mind... I am left handed as well. I love being left handed. My father is left handed and two of my sisters are. Yes, there are still difficulties being left handed but it's not nearly as bad as when our folks were kids. My father had his left hand slapped by a ruler everytime he wrote with his left hand. Nuns thought that using the left hand was the sign of the devil and that it was just plain bad. Like I said, I love being left handed, it does mean being different. I don't think it means that you're not normal, I really don't think people see it that way anymore. There a lot of products on the market now for left handed people that wasn't even around when we were kids, like potato peelers, scissors, even can openers. Well, that is my 2 cents. Oh, and not only is former Pres. Bush left handed, but Clinton and I believe Perot are as well. Ya see, all is left with the world. Kare, who thinks that everyone is born right handed but only the greatest over come it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:09:24 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: The dutch quiz Hi, Our first nominee for best translator of the dutch tranlators quiz is here: JOYCE ! she said: >I wanna play! >>>Hallo allemaal,<< > >That's gotta be "Hi, all y'all!" ;-) > >Okay, just kidding. I won't even attempt a word-for-word translation, but it >seemed to me you were asking for Dutch listers to identify themselves so you >guys could all possibly meet each other and maybe even trade tapes, videos, >etc. Email either Marcel or Marleen. >Is that the gist? uhhhhm, I can't tell you exactly , we have a quiz here...... :-) You're making a "who can tell best in one sentence translation quiz" out of it and it's a good idea! I'm not that hard in my judgements, so you get the first nomination for the title! It's a good attempt but let's wait if somebody can beat you? :-) The winner will be announced here in a few days..... ;-) Have fun! See you, Marcel. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:27:23 +0100 From: Willem Jan Keur Subject: lost mail Hi there, Help me. I have lost the dutch adress of the guys who want to make a dutch-lister list Thanx Willem Jan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 13:43:43 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: A thought for today... Hello to all the Listers... I hope today finds you smiling and happy... I know it's a few days early for a Thanksgiving greeting, but I wanted to catch all of you before you took your long weekend... This Thanksgiving I am thankful for so much... I won't list every little thing... That would take too long... =) But I think that we should all be thankful for being alive... For the beautiful sky and it's cloud residents... For the shining stars we can all wish upon and the moon, who gives her glow to everyone... For the sun to warm our smiles and the rain to blend with our tears... Take a minute to breathe deeply and thank Mother Earth and The Great Spirit for all the beauty around us... And for all the love there is in the world... Yes, there is ignorance and anger hidden in shadows around the bend, but if we try to see the light in those shadows, it will be easier to help dissolve those shadows... I am thankful for my wonderful family and dear friends... I send out love and hugs to all of you... I say a prayer for all those in the world who are less fortunate then some of us... For those who are not with their families and for those who fall ill... I am also a bit selfish in being thankful that I had the chance to see Melissa in concert... =) Am I ever thankful for that... =) Each and every day I am grateful for all I have... From my ten fingers and toes to the home I live in and the family that loves me... A picture on my wall, to the warmth of my bed... Being able to listen to music, and being able to sing along to the song... For my talents and turmoil's and pleasures and pains... They are all that has made me who I am today... And I think I turned out pretty decent... ;) I send love to all of you and your families... May your Thanksgiving be more than a delicious meal and a cozy day of love... May it be filled with the knowing that there is beauty and love and life in all the small wonders and things that we so many times seem to over look... So when you take that evening stroll after a wonderful meal on Thursday, look into the sky... Wish on a star... Smile at the Moon... Thank the Great Spirit for giving you this day... For even if you can not see the starts shine, even if you can not be kissed by the moons light for the shade of the clouds... Even thought The Great Spirit is all around us and in us and we can't see it... They are there... They are shining... And most of all, they are listening... Close your eyes and believe... There are no limits on imagination and dreams... They are more real than you'll ever know... =) With love and peace and smiles and hugs to you all... =) Thanks for listening to my little speech... =) Happy Thanksgiving... Love and Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:14:55 -0500 From: Subject: Demi reviews, Renee S, & Texas tripping Well, how can one digest leave such a plethora of material to respond to? Patti Fink provided us with a wonderful rendition of the absurdities of Demi Moore in her Top Explanations For WhyDemi Was Apparently Making Out With Her Psychic Advisor. I can't choose a personal favorite but am sort of inclined to reason (g). Heck, if Demi wanted to remove something stuck in my teeth with her tongue, I wouldn't argue the point :) Diane M. Brundige provided us with her Texas memories. Gee whiz, who knew going to Texas could turn out to be sooo much fun. I was really happy to run across you and Karen in Austin and then again in Dallas. How many times have you guys been taken to a gay pickup joint in Texas before? Leave it to the MEListers to lead you astray in a strange city! And yes, the bartenders/owners at The Ridge were just a riot. I was amazed those ladies could stand up let alone remember people's drink orders. I, for one, am willing to do some mighty fierce begging to get a hold of a copy of the video from that night. Of course if bribes are in order, name your price and I'll see what I can come up with. Will it involve food & drink or just other things . That chorus line of Rach & Patti would be well worth investing a few bucks or whatevers for. Lets give them something to type about...We made up one raucous chorus of Mean People Suck in that place! I give you guys credit for making it up the next morning, I can't quite remember what we were up to but I'm sure it didn't involve food that early! And it didn't involve any travel either. Now as to Renee, you are still a darlin'! I was really happy to run across you in Dallas. Thanks for letting me light up your life, it was well worth the investment! I'm sorry to hear you missed out on The Ridge. I did some mighty heavy cruising that joint looking for you in all those dark corners. Of course there were plenty of other sights to keep me entertained :) We could have used you to spice up the chorus line especially now that you're a dead ringer for Reba. Patti was busy trying to look like she belonged in those empty first row seats...(whistling nonchalantly, hands in pockets). Wish you could have made it to Janis & Claudia's beforehand. I guess I'll have to make yet another trip back to Dallas to catch up with you! (Have fun skii'n, snow looks soft but it sure isn't when it comes at you that fast) Take care all, SueD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:48:26 -0000 From: Jovi Ramirez Subject: ME Lister shirts Hi everyone, this is my first time posting to the list,I have lurked about for a while and have been meaning to write but I have been very busy with the play Camelot. Anyhow I decided it was time to write. I checked out the web page that has a picture of what the ME lister shirt would look like. It's pretty cool. As far as copyright infringement goes I would have to say that it is too similar to the design that is solely associated with Melissa. It would have to be varied or altered a lot more in order to be well legal. If you want more info. on this you can contact the Libary of Congress. Or since I live in Maryland and Washington D.C. is only about a 40 minute drive e-mail me privately and I will gather as much info. as possible. Just out of curiosity,are there any ME fans in Southern Maryland? :-) C-ya all later, musicvox@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:57:47 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: Re: the Dutch Quiz Marcel said of my one sentence Dutch-to-English translation: >>It's a good attempt but let's wait if somebody can beat you? :-)<< LOL! Sure, this is a hoot. But hey! Somebody else let the cat out of the bag, that you guys want to start a Dutch list. That flew right by me...but...uh, since I can't read the language.... ;-) Somebody else take a more thorough stab at it! See y'all, Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:20:04 -0600 From: Heather Seitsinger Subject: Kansas City Show Well, I've read alot about the Memphis show. Sounds like it was a great one. Thought I write in with a little info from the KC show. Before going to the concert I caught a blurb on the local news about ME receiving the key to the city. At the show ME informed us about receiving the key to the city (Kansas City, KS). And said the she felt quiet honored, especially since she - in her words "is not your typically rock star." She also informed us that she was one of the few rock stars that knew the difference between Kansas City, KS and Kansas City, MO. She shared stories about growing up in the area and coming to concerts in the very hall she was performing in. She also performed "Kansas City Blues" She went into it at the end of "I'm the Only One". She said that by performing it she broke the promise that she would never perform "Kansas City Blues" while doing a concert in KC. - Heat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:36:59 -0800 From: Marleen Niekel Subject: Best translator in the world... at least for now >>Hallo allemaal,<< Joyce Luck wrote: > That's gotta be "Hi, all y'all!" ;-) Well, you got that one right (but that was the easy part;-) > Okay, just kidding. I won't even attempt a word-for-word translation, but > it seemed to me you were asking for Dutch listers to identify themselves so > you guys could all possibly meet each other and maybe even trade tapes, > videos, etc. Email either Marcel or Marleen. You did a very nice job on that translation!!! (are you sure you never took a dutch course, or sth like that;-) What do you think Marcel, does she already qualify for best translator in the world??? Or is this too early, since she's the only one who translated it... ... and that of course makes her always the best one;-) > Is that the gist? I don't know, 'cause I've got no idea what "gist" means!!! Just wait a sec. I'll look it up in the dictionary... ... oh, here it is: kern, hoofdzaak, strekking OKAY, than you got the gist right! One more thing, Marcel did you notice what the subject-line of our message said??? Am I glad that only the Dutchies can spot that mistake (or typo) :-) Gotta go, and watch Ellen (when will we ever get through these re-runs?) Marleen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:14:16 -0500 From: roger zender Subject: MELTS: My idea and Nathalie's Nathalie said: > I have put it on my site at the address : > > http://www.ping.be/~ping9791/mle.htm I REALLY like this idea. Another one that I had that I can't create it right now to show you but hopefully you can imagine it. This would be on the back. You'd have a guitar on one side and and a computer on the other (not real large) and a power chord connecting the two. On the Top of the chord you can have "Melisters" or "Melissa Etheridge Mailing list" or whatever, then on the bottom you can put the mailing list address. Then a small logo on the front. This is just a base Idea. Others could come from this. If this makes the initial round of comments, maybe I can do it up on my web page and see what you all think. Roger "You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without hanging on." - Dean Martin Roger Zender e-mail: rzender@bgnet.bgsu.edu Bowling Green State Univ. rzender@wcnet.org Telecommunications Major phone: (419) 457-7565 Computer Science Minor http://www.wcnet.org/~rzender ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:27:59 -0800 From: "Karen Steenstrup (Punster)" Subject: "Life's Little Instruction Book" Hey everybody! For those of you who celebrate Thanksgiving, I wish you a great holiday. I know I have written this out before to the list, but with the holidays and all and since it's the time of year for sharing and giving I thought I would do it again. I re read this book that's entitled "Life's Little Instruction Book", it has 511 suggestions, observations, and reminders on how to live a happy and rewarding life. I'm just giving you 30 of my favorite ones. Here they are. 1. Watch a sunrise at least once a year. 2. Sing in the shower. 3. Learn to make great chili. 4. Be forgiving of yourself and other. 5. Drink champagne for no reason at all. 6. Make new friends but cherish the old ones. 7. Don't postpone joy. 8. Use your wit to amuse, not abuse. 9. Whistle. 10. Choose your life's mate carefully. From this one decision will come ninety percent of all your happiness. 11. Smile a lot. It costs nothing and is beyond price. 12. Put a lot of little marshmallows in your hot chocolate. 13. Never deprive someone of hope; it might be all they have. 14. Wear audacious underwear under the most solemn business attire. 15. Pray not for things, but for wisdom and courage. 16. Never give up on what you really want to do. The person with big dreams is more powerful than one with all the facts. 17. Do battle against prejudice and discrimination wherever you find it. 18. Be romantic. 19. Don't forget, a persons greatest emotional need is to feel appreciated. 20. Don't waste time grieving over past mistakes. Learn from them and move on. 21. Seek out the good in people. 22. Every day show your family how much you love them with your words, with your touch, and with your thoughtfulness. 23. Lie on your back and look at the stars. 24. Remember that a successful marriage depends on two things; (1) finding the right person and (2) being the right person. 25. Judge your success by the degree that you're enjoying peace, health, and love. 26. Never waste an opportunity to tell someone you love them. 27. Go through all your old photographs. Select ten and tape them to your kitchen cabinets. Change them every thirty days. 28. Be there when people need you. 29. Never acquire just one kitten. Two are a lot more fun and no more trouble. 30. Laugh a lot. A good sense of humor cures almost all of life's ills. Even if you don't do any of these, it's always great to read. The punster is taking the day off tomorrow for a nice 5 day weekend. Ahhh, can't wait. Have a great holiday everyone. Kare ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:11:19 -0500 From: Kelley at AOL Subject: Melissa on AOL The easiest way to get to the VH-1/Melissa area on aol is to do for keyword and type "mel" (no quotes of course) and hit enter. Enjoy! BTW, Memphis was a blast....great putting faces to names BIG THANKS to my new friend SbHarvick (Susie)...my operation is scheduled for Friday afternoon and the tapes you gave me will come in handy while I recover. You made a bad trip so much better! (Are you alright....donuts??) Cat and Catherine....thanks for letting me bunk with you guys the night...it was my pleasure helping you get down to the stage (I learned it all from Susie....professional concert-goer...kids...don't try this at home) Just remember....for my roommates (both nights)...I'm making my own shirts so email me when you get your pics in...I'm working on them already, I will email privately with details Anyway, gotta run...thanks to all the listers and Aolers who made the trip so memorable!! Take care to all, Kelley ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:40:57 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: My left handed story My parents made the mistake of in rolling me in a Catholic school in first grade. In kindergaren I wrote left handed. But when it came time for me to be seated in first grade, after all the B O Y S were seated and me being student 74 in the first grade of 74 (broken down into 2 classrooms), there were no more left handed desks. So, I had to learn to write right handed. I went to write with my left that day only to be tapped by the nun with a ruler. I wasn't going to mess around with a nun...too many horror stories I had heard at age 6! To this day, I had a huge bump on my middle finger of my right hand, a reminder of the torture I went through that first year of school. I remembering getting my report card from the pastor of the parish. He said "All A's and a C in handwriting. You have to change that Frances". I now look back and say "Hey father, couldn't you blow a few more $$ and get some more left handed desks? And while you're at it, turn the freaking heat up! It is cold in just knee socks and a uniform and the heat being on 62 degrees!" That is another story, about the heat!! I still write with the right hand. I throw right, switch hitter. But I do everything else with my left leading. A college professor noticed it and did a very simple verbal test and said to me "You are left handed". I told her what I went through in elementary school. She rolled her eyes! I left Catholic school after the 4th grade! I have no love lost between Catholicism and myself. I consider myself a "recovering" Catholic. I have finally lost the guilt! :-) Thanks for letting me share! Francie ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 25 Nov 1996 to 26 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Thu Nov 28 00:00:54 1996 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:00:16 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 26 Nov 1996 to 27 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:12:13 -0800 From: Joe Vitale Subject: Thanksgiving wishes and Christmas idea... Last year at Christmas my dear friend Mark Weisser handed me a coffee mug and the following letter. I read it and tears welled up in my eyes. While everyone else was giving ties and toys, Mark cut through the clutter and gave something that expressed the true meaning of the holidays. Because the Christmas gift was such a great idea, I thought you would like to know about it, and even consider doing something like it. Mark's letter follows. He says you are free to use it as is. But if you want more details, you can reach him at mweisser@net1.net. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving. We have a lot to be grateful for, don't we? Joe ************************************************************************ Dear Joe, The other day I sat down to work on my Christmas gift list. Some Christmas tunes came on the radio and I started to think (yeah, I know,it's about time I did!). What in the world can I get for you? Something that lasts? If so, what could it be that you don't already have -- that won't just gather dust from disuse? Maybe something that you can consume -- a food thing, bottle of port, perhaps? But these things don't quite seem to convey that personal feeling that I was looking for. And so I thought about Christmas -- about what it means. And I think I found what I was looking for. A very special gift. One that I think will bring as much joy to you as it has to me. For those most special people on my list I made a donation of $250 to the Depelchin Children's Center in Houston. This will bring the joy and excitement of Christmas to 15-20 children. The Depelchin Children's Center has operated in Houston for more than 120 years. It is an orphanage, a refuge, a placement service. They take the kids from the court systems, hospitals -- some are (believe it or not) just left on their doorstep, abandoned by their parents. Most of the children are abused -- physically, mentally -- they are all races and ages. At Christmas, as much as they can with the money they have to work with (Depelchin does not pay their volunteers), the Center puts on Christmas parties for the kids. This takes much coordination for there are thousands of kids there. They ask each child to make a Christmas wish list. Sometimes they ask for only a hairbrush and a Barbie doll. Maybe a model car. When you don't have much, it doesn't take much to make Christmas special. So instead of a "normal" gift, I want to give you this coffee mug to remind you of your real gift. You helped make this time of year so very special to some children you'll probably never see. Your real gift, you see, is the gift of giving. The best gift I know. I hope it makes your Christmas special, too. With love, Mark ************************************************************************ -- Joe Vitale * Marketing with Spirit * Houston (281) 999-1110 jgvitale@ix.netcom.com http://www.speaking.com/vitale.html Latest book: "CyberWriting: How to Promote Your Product or Service Online (without being flamed)" Call 1-800-262-9699 Psst! Can you keep a secret? Then ask me about "Project Phineas" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:22:45 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Re: Left Pawed :) Morning Melisters! Ahhhh! Francie Dear Francie! Someone I can relate to! I had the same experience as a cub! I had a father who thought it was weird to be left handed so the note went to the school and the teacher was to break this cub from doing anything with her left paw! You know the humiliation of learning to print again and all the kids laughing at your scribbles. My teacher was very attentive and bragged alot about how good I was doing and would even hold my paper up in class to show all the other cubs. I loved her for that! Maybe that is where it all began! :) Ahhhh! Mrs. Jenkins! :) She was an inspiration and a blessing. Pappa bear on the other hand ( no pun intended ) handled it ( there I go again) quite different. Imagine sitting quietly on the couch coloring book in hand trying hard to stay within the lines and having someone snap you with a towel and sting your paw and you don't know what you did wrong. Better yet, imagine sitting down at the dinner table and just as you reach for that piece of fried chicken with your left hand a fork stabs you and you are told that you will learn to use the hand you are suppose to or else! Or else what, you'll cut it off next time I would think to myself. Needless to say it didn't take me long to learn to use my right hand! In secret though I would try to write left handed again to no avail. I bat right handed but do use my left hand alot now out of pure determination. I think this is why my spelling is wobbly most times! :) My mom is left handed! And my, what beautiful handwriting. Me, well I am just thankful for typewriters and keyboards!!! Just thought I would share my story and let you know I have been there and know the pain. Sincerely, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:50:51 EDT From: Jane Vaughn Subject: Pooh Gives Thanks! Mornin' Again! I just wanted to take a deep breath and give "Thanks"! First of all for Mrs. Jenkins! She didn't have a baby blue ruler but a great smile and gentle ways that to this day this bear cub still rmembers and loves! :) Then I want to give "Thanks" for other things that have touched my life. For all of you who are out there and listen and never really give me too hard of a time. You always listen and share when this Pooh gets to pondering. I appreciate you one and all. "Big Bear Hugs" For my kids who are always happy to see me come through the door at night. Levi always has a present and his stuble butt wiggles a hundred miles an hour until I sit down and he gives me wet sloppy dober kisses. For Jessie who waits patiently for my lap to be free so she can give me lovins and curl up and purr contently. For my mom who makes the best potato soup for me on cold wintry nights and makes me smile and all warm inside. For the geese that I watched as they flew over and allowed me to hear the wind beneath their wings. For Melissa who always makes me sit and listen as she gives me music and makes me feel about things I have forgotten and dance when I feel like I can't even get up let alone get down. And for her new music yet to come as she shares so willingly and touches us unconditionally. For bright mornings when I sit alone and watch the colors of the day and know I am lucky to be alive. For the leaves that fall from the trees and giggle with glee as they dance towards the ground to cover up my plants so they won't freeze. For that box of groceries left on our doorstep when I was a child and did not know if there was to be a Thanksgiving dinner whoever you were I am "Thankful". For all lifes mysteries yet unsolved and friends yet to be recognized, I give "Thanks" And last but not least, for all the little bees who make the honey for my tummy I am ever so "Thankful" Everyone take a moment, take a breath, relax, and be "Thankful"! SIncerely, "POOH" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:30:46 +0100 From: Marcel Ummelen Subject: Re: Digest 25-26 nov. 1996 Marleen wrote: >Marcel did you notice what the subject-line of our message said??? mmmmmmmm, little mistake there (). I did some cut and paste in the late evening :-) ********************** Willem Jan, you wrote: >Hi there, >Help me. I have lost the dutch adress of the guys who want to make a >dutch-lister list >Thanx, Willem Jan Here it is again: (Marleen) of (Marcel) It's not a dutch listers->list<...... Even dutch people can't read dutch? :-D :-D :-D Mail us and we'll explain! Lost e-mail? Did you have troubles with your puter also? (Jamie, are you in here ????? :-D ) *********************** Joyce wrote: >Somebody else let the cat out of the bag, that you guys want to >start a Dutch list. That flew right by me...but...uh, since I can't read the >language.... ;-) We are NOT planning to start a new list !!!! Well, now you're mentioning it, we CAN change this list into the dutch language :-D since you can translate it that well :-) OK come on with the flames.............. :-) :-) *********************** Karen said: >30. Laugh a lot. You saved the best till the end !! *********************** Laugh a lot everybody! till mails, Marcel. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:13:41 -0600 From: Patty Wilcox Subject: Happy Thanksgiving Just a little note to wish you all a very happy, healthy and safe Thanksgiving, and to those who cannot be with their loved ones and families, my thoughts are especially with you. Yesterday is a memory, Tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift....that is why they call it the present. Keep it precious. The Lone Wrangler ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:42:56 -0600 From: Heather Seitsinger Subject: Lefthandedness I couldn't pass this subject line up. So here is my lefthanded story. A few weeks ago I went to a new dentist, can't go to my old one he's in Iowa and I'm in St. Louis. So the dentist comes in does a quick check of my teeth and states "You're lefthanded, aren't you?" I replied, "Yes, how did you know?" He tells me that he can tell by where the plack has built up on my teeth. I found this interesting. It seems that a person tends to brush the opposite side of their mouth better. In a effort not to offend anyone - Happy Nov. 28th to all! Heat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:53:05 -0700 From: "L. POINDEXTER" Subject: El Paso Hi! Just wanted to give a brief report on the El Paso Concert last night. The show was great! The venue was a lot smaller than I was expecting, and MEIN provided me with 4th row center seats! Theres not too much say that hasn't been said about the other shows, except that she sang the last verse of Nowhere to Go in Spanish. It actually sounded really good. She said someone has recorded the song in Spanish and it should be coming out soon. The crowd was great, on their feet the whole time. I managed to sneak a camera in, and then almost got it taken away when the security guard saw me with it. I managed to get away and pass it off to a friend, so hopefully there will be some good shots. I'm off to the Albuquerque show today, so I'll post a longer report of that show. Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving! Linnette ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 15:33:03 -0800 From: Candra Rainey Subject: anyone OUT on Roseanne? Hi all, I heard it rumored on this list that the infamous coming out show on Roseanne would take place last night. Unfortunately I was busy interveiwing TRAUMATIC ROOMMMATE #14 to move into my house. (I'm renting a room in San Francisco right now and unless you LIKE getting 25 calls a day, I wouldn't recommend it!) Anyhow, after traumawoman left I realized I had neglected to push play-record on my VCR so I have no idea if anyone came out?? I assumme not or else this list would be full of who did, but just wanted to ask, what's the scoop?? Thanks. Candra ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:13:00 EST From: "Ware, Lanette" Subject: Elton John on Rosie Hey for anyone who is as addicted to the Rosie O' Donnell show as I am, Elton John was recently on with the Duchess of York - yes, miss Fergie herself, and referred to Amanda Marshall as one of the two hot new artists he admires. Just thought some of you might appreciate that. Oh and his favorite song was: Dark Horse - 4th Track. HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:29:08 -0800 From: Marleen Niekel Subject: Little dutch misunderstanding... (NMEC) Willem Jan Keur wrote: > Help me. I have lost the dutch adress of the guys who want to make a > dutch-lister list. First off all Willem Jan we don't wanna start a dutch-lister list, but we just would like to know how many dutch listers would be interested in a Dutch-lister meeting (I can say this Marcel, can't I? 'cause Joyce got this part right already). BTW it's not the GUYS, it's a guy and a girl. You can either e-mail me: or Marcel: Joyce Luck wrote: > But hey! Somebody else let the cat out of the bag, that you guys want to > start a Dutch list. That flew right by me...but...uh, since I can't read > the language.... ;-) It looks like you can read our language better then some dutch folks:-) 'cause we never said anything 'bout starting a Dutch list. (no offence, Willem Jan) One more thing, I'm on digest, so if I respond right after Marcel did (I've got no idea what he wrote), hope that explains both our messages on the BEST translator topic. Gotta go (before I become a regular de-lurker;-) Marleen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:33:17 -0800 From: Lisa Richards Subject: Lifebeat Benefit This was posted on Gaynet in the "Gay TV Listings Of The Week" So - for those of you who are lucky enough to get VH1 - enjoy! >> THE BEAT GOES ON -- THE LIFEBEAT BENEFIT CONCERT. Airs 12/1/96 , Sunday, 3:00 PM , VH1 Cable. "The battle against AIDS is unceasing as Melissa Etheridge, Jon Secada, k d lang, Sarah McLachlan, and others artists take the stage." --TV Now. - Harley ******************************************* "America, America are you losing your mind?" - ADW LL Richards ****** aka Harley * * lirichar@adobe.com * ****************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:06:21 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: MELTS: My idea and Nathalie's On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, roger zender wrote: > Nathalie said: > > I have put it on my site at the address : > > > > http://www.ping.be/~ping9791/mle.htm > > I REALLY like this idea. I thought it was great too! The site is very slow to come up (from here, anyway), so here's the direct URL: http://www.mygale.org/03/nie/LOGO-NIE.jpg Well worth the wait! -- Deb \\ indigo@clark.net \\ http://www.clark.net/pub/indigo ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:10:54 -0500 From: "Eidel Lisa Consultant (Temp)" Subject: Hi everyone! Boy was I pleasantly surprised to see a picture of Melissa in my newspaper (The NJ Record) yesterday. It was an article on Sesame Street and there she was surrounded by some muppets - obviously taken the day she recorded the show as she was in the same outfit. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!! Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:14:54 -0500 From: "Eidel Lisa Consultant (Temp)" Subject: Re: MELTS Roger wrote: >This would be on the back. You'd have a guitar on one side and and a >computer on the other (not real large) and a power chord connecting >the two. On the Top of the chord you can have "Melisters" or "Melissa >Etheridge Mailing list" or whatever, then on the bottom you can put the >mailing list address. Then a small logo on the front. That is a VERY cool suggestion for the t-shirts. I for one would like to see this on your web page when you get the chance. Lisa E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:47:44 -0400 From: Gwen Shinko Subject: Dance fever and birthday suits To help the Honda Driving Chick Magnet (aka Beth Durff) celebrate her upcoming birthday, some of us D.C. Metro area listers are getting together next Saturday evening at the Arizona Bar & Grill near Dupont Circle. There is a private women's only dance scheduled for Dec. 7th from 9:30pm to 2:00am at the Arizona which is located two blocks south of Dupont Circle and is within walking distance of the Dupont metro stop. The dance is sponsored by Bon Vivant Productions. (Bon Vivant is a group of women who organize different private social events and fundraisers for lesbians in the D.C. area). These particular dances are held the first Sat. of each month. There's a $10 cover to get in and the money is donated by Bon Vivant to various political action groups to advance gay & lesbian rights, (blah, blah, blah). Jen (my LSIP) and I enjoy the dances because the D.J. spins some good dance music. Not to mention the fact that these dances usually draw around 300 well dressed and coifed professional women.... all in all, it's a lot of fun. If you're interested in joining us for yet another fun-filled evening of frolic and frivolity (not to mention some serious rug-cutting), either stop by the Arizona or if you need more info., email me privately. Beth will be the one wearing her birthday suit and should be easy to spot, or at least you'll be able to figure out that she's probably somewhere in the midst of the rowdy group of gawkers and well wishers. Hmmm... suppose someone will have to hold onto her Honda keys since she won't have any pockets... Gwen (and Jen) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:23:29 -0800 From: edgy Subject: MLE pic in LA Magazine There is a small photo of Melissa with Me'Shell Ndegeocello in the latest Los Angeles Magazine (p.42--the "L.A. to Z" cover). The photo was taken at the City of Hope benefit. Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:52:30 -0500 From: Beth Durff Subject: NMEC-Philly Pub Crawling-THE LAST word SueD wrote: >>>I don't know why everyone in the crowd is so paranoid, I only jotted >>>down a few remarks for memory's sake...the reports so far have made out >>>that the evening was as pristine as the driven snow. It was! ...up until the point when Brenda Starr Reporter started taking notes that is... and I wonder how I get myself into these things - sheesh. I have since figured out that it's with just a little help from my friends . Next time - if there is a next time - I'll know better what I'm dealing with !!!! *lol* Beth (wondering if I should be packing my backs for Tempe) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:58:10 -0800 From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: KFOG "concert for kids" web site i discovered today while browsing through KFOG's web site that they have set up a page for the MLE 12/17 cow palace show ("the 11th annual concert for kids"). you can go there either: by going to http://www.kfog.com/fun/ and click on the MLE poster (it's the one from YLS of her covering her face with her hand) or you can go there directly by going to http://www.kfog.com/fun/con4kids/index.html they've got some information about MLE (nothing we haven't heard before), the concert, and the marine corps reserve's "toys for tots" drive (http://www.mantiscorp.com/toys). there's a link to the MLE polygram site, along with the picture from YLS of MLE in her silver space suit . *rhondda* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:18:12 -0700 From: Joyce Stoliar Subject: Address Change Hi, Been out of circulation for quite some time, (with the list that is) and I just wanted to wish those celebrating Thanksgiving, ENJOY and I wanted to let you all know that effective immediately my e-mail address is jstoliar@banff.net. I want to unsub with my old address but I have not been able to accomplish that task, so if you are reading Glenna, my message hase been rejected 4 times, please unsub jstoliar@awinc.com. Thanks, take care everyone, Joyce ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 26 Nov 1996 to 27 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Fri Nov 29 00:00:50 1996 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 00:00:13 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 27 Nov 1996 to 28 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:12:48 -0800 From: Christine Du Bois Subject: happy Thanksgiving Hello, my friend! We hope that you and yours have a positively wonderful and peaceful Thanksgiving Day, should you choose to celebrate it. Stuff your sweet self to the gills without guilt! In love and light, Christine and Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 01:01:00 -0600 From: Patty Kolakowski Subject: Sesame Street Hi, Just watched my tape of Sasame Street. Watching her play with the Letter U was great fun. She also seemed to enjoy it very much. Has anybody seen how this came about. Did PBS come to her or did she say "I wanna do a letter". I managed to delete two bits of info in error. 1. When is Melissa to appear on Jay Leno? 2. What CD single has Melissa singing with Brian Adams? Happy Thankgivings to all!! pk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:07:16 -0500 From: Renee Sweeney Subject: Okay, this left-handed thre Reply to: Okay, this left-handed thread is getting to me... Hi Guys! First off, I gotta say to POOH- you were a very brave and long-suffering = cub and I salute you...Your Daddy Bear was obviously being very unfair = and confused...Love out to you, Sweet little Janey Pooh... I was brought up in a very unusual fundamentalist-type religion where = practically *everything* was (and is!) a sin, but that's another story... = Anyway, there was an old man in this church who was about 93 years old at = the time, (about 25 years ago) and he found out I was left-handed and = told my parents that unless they "made" me right-handed I was going to = hell! He said it was a sin to be left-handed...Luckily for me, my Mom = would have none of this and basically told him "Thanks for your input, = but buzz off!" Thank God for this! Also, when I was growing up (and still to this day!) I found it hard to = learn how to do certain things...Slicing, peeling, chopping vegetables, = etc.- FORGET IT! I'm just so awful at this it's comical! And, I = generally got along well with my Dad, but some of our only fights growing = up were about me cutting up my meat- I couldn't figure out how to do it! = Watching other's examples of these tasks was so backward and then trying = to adapt sometimes didn't work out. I can't really play pool or = baseball- can't figure which hand to do what with...but! I make a GREAT = cheerleader! I am proud of being left-handed even though it can be a pain and it's = basically a right-handed world. But then again, I'm proud to be a woman, = and some would say it's basically a man's world. Wow! Add these to my = red hair and look out! I guess I'm lucky to be living in these times- a = couple hundred years ago I might have been burned a witch! Ouch! Anyway, sorry for the run-on commentary, but this subject was close to my = heart, so I had to write in... Happy Holidays to all of you! Me, I'm hitting the slopes! See y'all- Renee' (in Dallas, counting down to vacation! YES!) loveyalizdougiejudangelahumanjilllaurelsued ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:13:52 GMT From: Maggie Subject: Re: NMEC Bowling Hall of Fame, etc marcy wrote: >Does anyone know if Julie takes bowling ball donations? My friend is >retiring from amateur bowling, and comes from quite a bowling tradition. >In fact her mom is in the Bowling Hall of Fame. (Yes there really is >one, I did not make that up!) She's NOT! I've actually been there! It's across the street from Busch Stadium in St. Louis. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 02:12:26 -0800 From: Kimberly Subject: Thanksgiving Awakening Hi All, I just had an awakening I would like to share, this being Thanksgiving and all. Many of us have had problems with our parents growing up and I'm no exception. I saw my father this past weekend for Thanksgiving at his house w/his family and complained about going in the first place (had other things to do, etc.). He's not always pleasant to be around. Tonight I received a very late phone call from my stepmother. My father, a diabetic, was taken to the hospital with an infection in his foot and they are scheduled to amputate at least one toe if not more of the foot. Surgery on a diabetic is always a high risk, as is the risk of diabetic coma. He has no insurance so is in a county facility which is the absolute pits! I can't talk to him, but am sitting by the phone for news of his condition. For those of us lucky enough to have our family members still with us, I hope you take a moment to tell them you appreciate them, regardless of any past (or current) disagreements you may share. Sometimes emergency situations wake us up to the fact that our time here is short and circumstances can change from one second to another. And, if you're going through problems with your family right now, things can and do change--sometimes for the better. There's always hope. There really is only two things definite in life: birth and death. Everything in the middle is left up to us. Take care all, keep safe and warm, and I hope each of you has a wonderful holiday. Kym ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 07:13:04 -0500 From: Toni Robinson Subject: >From: Candra Rainey >Subject: anyone OUT on Roseanne? > I heard it rumored on this list that the infamous coming out show on >Roseanne would take place last night. Unfortunately I was busy >interveiwing TRAUMATIC ROOMMMATE #14 to move into my house. (I'm >renting a room in San Francisco right now and unless you LIKE getting 25 >calls a day, I wouldn't recommend it!) Anyhow, after traumawoman left I >realized I had neglected to push play-record on my VCR so I have no idea >if anyone came out?? I assumme not or else this list would be full of >who did, but just wanted to ask, what's the scoop?? > Thanks. Candra Sorry you missed it..but here's my analysis.. Well, Roseanne's mother sort of *fell out* of the closet..more as a man-hater than a lesbian, I thought..but I guess for this particular character it made it more plausible. First the mom freaked out about the two gay guys wanting to adopt a child (not just because they were gay, but because they were MEN), then she blurted out a buncha stuff about her (now deceased) husband..how much she hated him, hated having sex with him, etc., and how she had to buy issues of playboy in order to be able to be with him. Nobody seemed all that shocked in the end, but Roseanne was P.O.ed about all the times the mom pulled this *be a lady* crap with them. All in all it was an amusing episode, but not terribly ground breaking, imho. Personally, I'd like to know what Roseanne's seeming fascination with Mike Tyson is all about. Major yuck. Toni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:33:45 -0500 From: "D. Jessamyn Scott Breed" Subject: Present to MLE @ LAst show! Hey All! Tim Dunker and I have been trading a few ideas about what SOMETHING SPECIAL to do for the LA show...(and we really should do something!) Although I will not be attending the LA show, I'd be willing to help coordinate an effort such as the following: The "Gist" (now that we have defined that in Dutch, too =) is this: getting several glow in the dark necklaces to spell out "HEAVEN" or, (to pun on the Sesame ST. appearance), "U ARE HEAVEN" and hold up the letters after ATWTH. Thing is, I'm not sure how much the necklaces cost and where they can be purchased (say at a toy store). I figure the letters should be about 4 feet by 6 feet (assuming each necklace is about a foot long) in order to be visible. Also, I'm thinking the letters could be assembled prior to the concert (I'd be willing to do it here and send them out to LA to Tim) What we NEED are folks to either send me necklaces or a small donation to SPONSOR a necklace =) You can be from *anywhere* and still make your presence felt in LA!!!! You can sponsor more than one necklace, too! This is what I suggested to Tim about his role PRE-CONCERT: You could go around to each of the sections before the concert and entrust *one* person to hang onto the letter until the time is designated to unfold them within their section (maybe after ATWTH) and recruit a few people to help hold it up. (maybe tote the assembled letters in, each in a marked brown paper bag to keep straight which is which..maybe even number them, too) I think you'll find that those who aren't lucky enough to be front and center would be totally enthused to be a part of something for Melissa. Maybe you can ask people who already have their tickets and know that they will be up in the first set of off-floor seats may volunteer and agree to meet you somewhere (or, again, maybe you can circulate the venue pre-show) and distribute the letters to make sure they get in the right place. At the concert, give a flyer along with the letter to explain to the people in that particular area what their place is in the whole sentence. You may do well to have an assistant and perhaps the two of you can divide the arena in half so you have a chance to talk to everyone involved. If you choose U ARE HEAVEN, it's ten letters and you could pick out five sections on each side of the arena. (I CALCULATED THE TOTAL # OF NECKLACES @ 136 to spell out the above) ***LISTERS....DO YOU WANNA BE A SPONSOR?????****** Ballpark figures: We'd only need about 34 folks if everyone pitched in an average of 4 necklaces; about 45 people if everyone pitched in 3!) Anyways, if you think this is a good idea -- possible -- let me know. I'd be glad to pitch in about $25 toward the purchase of large quantities of the glow-in-the-dark necklaces. I think for the best effect, the letters should be REALLY BIG! -=-=-=-=-=- Please E-mail me if you think this is a good idea and do-able Please put "NECKLACES" or "HEAVEN" in the SUBJECT Line. Provided there is enough interest, I will post my address and try to get the collection underway ASAP. I will also post a note to let you know if I have found the necklaces here in town and how much they are each... I know there are a couple thousand of us on this List... I think it would be great if even just a fraction of us could pull this off! Hope to hear from ya'll soon. Let me know what you think! KiP, Jesse ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:26:53 -0500 From: Kelley at AOL Subject: Memphis Help!! I need a picture of Graceland to apease my foster kids...I forgot to take one while I was in Memphis...needless to say, had Melissa on the brain. Also if it's not too late, anyone have any newspaper stuff on Melissa's Memphis show they would part with? (Advertisements, reviews, just anything) Email privately and have a happy turkey day!!! Take care, Kelley "I am woman, I am invincible, I am tired!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:51:02 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: =) Happy Thansgiving and warm thoughts of Love, Peace and Happiness to you all... =) Love, smiles and hugs... Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:53:25 -0800 From: Randy Subject: NMEC Bosnia mail address update. Sorry to take up bandwidth, but I want to let those interested know that I have an updated address for one of our service people in Bosnia. e-mail me privately. If you've already sent a card, the old address will probably catch up with him anyway. Thanks. --- randy9@bigfoot.com Keep it Precious, 'cause I Will Never Be the Same aka/drkn_pstr A persons greatest emotional need is to feel appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 08:11:45 -0800 From: edgy Subject: Leno appearance I mistakenly erased the message from the person who asked when MLE is scheduled to appear on Leno, but the date is December 19. Allison edgy@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 11:52:52 -0500 From: Jill Barry Subject: Memphis Pictures/Turkey Time Hello everyone, Someone inquired about Memphis pictures...I'll see what I can come up with. My question is, does anyone have a picture of MLE singing with Terri Clark? If so please let me know. I want to wish any and everyone a Happy Thanksgiving...It'll be another calm affair at my folks' house, (nothing like, say, a "Home for the Holidays" dysfunction level) but I can give thanks that it's the fourth Thanksgiving I can spend with not only my folks, but with my S.O.'s as well. :) ...And finally, I can watch Rosie O'Donnell for the next two days!!!!! Best regards, Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 12:40:14 -0500 From: Michele Marie Bench Subject: Roseanne OUTing In a highly unusual event, I actually caught Tuesday's episode... Roseanne's mom revealed that she was attracted to women. I don't know the name of Martin Mull's character, but he and his partner revealed that they were trying to adopt, and Beverly just freaked out about it and wouldn't let it go. So during dinner she just went off on men and how awful her husband was. It ended up with her saying that in order to even have sex she had to get a copy of Playboy first. Enter silence from the crowd, a few lesbian jokes. That was pretty much it. I don't think the little clip at the end even referred to it at all. Michele ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 19:35:00 +0100 From: Tim Dunker Subject: U ARE HEAVEN !!!!!!! Hello out there, first I want to thank Jesse to organize on the "glow in the darknecklaces"-idea I love Jesse`s plan and I really hope WE(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) will make this. I am also willing to give 25$ for necklaces. If it works out I will make sure (and I really can) that Melissa gets to know that this was organized and sponsored by this List. I will need some people who help me in LA. You know that English is a 2nd language for me and so it won`t be so easy for me to tell all the people in the venue what they should do with the letters. We will need an adress in LA where Jesse can send the necklaces to. So, who is from LA and will go to this show ?????????????????????? U ARE HEAVEN !!!!!!! Bye Tim Dunker (ten days left until I fly !!!!!!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 20:03:47 -0600 From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: Roseanne -- coming out! Yes! Roseanne's mother came out, after a bit of gay-bashing, she admitted that towards the end of her marriage, the only way she could have sex with her husband was if she picked up a Playboy first! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 22:51:25 -0600 From: Andrea Dyche Subject: Re: Kansas City Show Well, I'm new to the list. I've been lurking the past few days, but since I was also at the KC show, I decided to reply. The one thing that really suprised me was that Rev. Phelps was outside prostesting. I hadn't seen him around for awhile, so I had kinda forgotten about him. Once I saw him and the rest of his group, I realized that it was only logical for him to be there. I thought the show was amazing. I sat third row on the floor and the only times I couldn't really see was when Melissa was at the other end of the arena and when the woman in front of me decided to stand on her chair during the last few songs. The one thing I would like to know is, on one of the shirts Melissa has her hand over her face, why is this? I didn't really think about it, until my boss asked me. He was like, "why did they pose her like that? Was she trying to hide something? She has such an attractive face, why did she put her hand over her face like that?" I didn't know and I hadn't thought about it until then. Any ideas? Andrea "Stay hard, stay hungry, stay alive If you can..." Bruce Springsteen ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 27 Nov 1996 to 28 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sat Nov 30 00:00:45 1996 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:00:04 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 28 Nov 1996 to 29 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:53:55 -0500 From: Joyce Luck Subject: LA Necklace Idea and Austin Hi, Okay, so last night I'm parked in a chair, happily digesting an enormous meal. The TV is on; a book is in my hand; I am content. Then, all of a sudden, *this* flashed into my head: "They can't do the necklace thing after ATWTH!!!!" At least, I don't think so...??? If my memory serves me correctly, Melissa does ATWTH on the small stage in the back of the arena, so if they did the necklace thing then, she wouldn't be able to see the entire effect and what the necklaces spell out. Melissa has to be at the main stage in front, right, for the plan to really work? Just something that popped into my head....somebody who has seen a recent show should confirm *when* in the setlist MLE does ATWTH.... Now, about Austin. This issue of Girlfriends mag has an article about the top 10 most lesbian friendly cities in the United States. Guess what city is ranked number one? *AUSTIN.* Whadda coincidence. D'ya think Mel and Julie know? See ya! Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:59:49 -0500 From: "Deborah D. Jones" Subject: Re: MLETHER Digest - 27 Nov 1996 to 28 Nov 1996 Hello, Everyone! I'm a brand new fan. (Three weeks). It's going to be forever, though. If I can do anything from the East Coast (Delaware), let me know! xoxo Deb BeachDeb@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:27:29 -0800 From: Candra Rainey Subject: NMC Thanks for the Roseanne update Hi all, Just wanted to thank everyone for filling me in on what happened on Roseanne. Her mother?!?! Whoa... Whatever! It sounds like she'd been building this whole "main-character-coming-out" thing for two seasons for it to end up being a one-liner. From the sounds of it, it was like a joke, not an actual coming out. Hmmmm... I guess we'll all see, won't we? Thanks again, everyone who responded, both to the list and privately. It's much appreciated. Candra ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 14:09:54 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: Leavenw. There was a pretty long article today in the entertainment section of the Idaho Statesman, from the Kansas City Star. The bold-letter title read: After coming out, Etheridge runs into spotlight. It talked a lot about the baby (and of course Melissa's music). But it also had a quote from Melissa which I had never heard before: " 'Poor Leavenworth...They're known for a prison and the most famous homosexual,' Etheridge pauses and her voice trails off. 'Whatever.' " -marcy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 17:50:50 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Re: Left Pawed :) Pooh, Thanks for your story. I know there are alot of left handers out there made to write right! I had to go to speech therapy because of it. And, I guess that is why I have trouble spelling! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 19:42:49 -0500 From: Francie Trout Subject: Hey Sue D./California Dreaming Sue! I was just busting on you about the notebook thing with the pub crawl. It was fun and if you bust on me, I'll do it back. I am very use to being teased and busted on by my family. The pub crawl notes were nothing compared to Thanksgiving with my family! We hurt sooooo bad from laughing at the table!! Even my 3 year old niece was teasing me! It is all in fun and if you don't do it again when I see you, I'll be hurt! For the California Bound listers: I'll be California dreaming in cold (and Icy after yesterday) Philly while you bask in the CA sun and some awlsome concerts!! Remember to report back now! For the Seattle WA listers: Rumor has it that Ann Wilson from Heart is a possible concert goer for the show in Tacoma. She is a fan of Melissa's and said earlier over the summer that she wants to see her in concert. I heard though the grapevine that she probably will be there to see her, but don't expect her to jump out on stage. Hope eveyone had a great turkey day! Francie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:05:38 -0500 From: Kiva Kamerling Subject: Her name is... Hello everyone... I want to thank all of you for the name suggestions. I went with the name I origionally chose for her... I just wanted to *see* her personality first... Her name is Angel... and to all of you she says...*meow* ;) Kym... Being a diabetic myself I am daily faced with obstacles and fears about complications. Your father is in my prayers and so are you and your family. I send you my love and hugs... Peace, Kiva BravNcrazy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 21:14:19 -0500 From: "D. Jessamyn Scott Breed" Subject: LAst show::Update #1 Hey All! Just back from my Holiday and opened my emailbox to find 6 replies already from willing U ARE HEAVEN/Necklace sponsors! Yeeaaaaaay!!! Keep the replies coming! I will be able to go a-pricing this weekend and will post the price per necklace (I have been told they are in the $1.50 to $2 range) as soon as I know for sure. I will also post my snail mail address then so we can *keep the drive alive!* >From here, it looks very promising. All we need are a few more Brave&Crazy Fans who will be sponsors *and* a LOS ANGELino who is willing to supply the address whereby I can forward the assembled necklaces to Tim. I'm looking forward to hearing from you, MEListers! And THANKS to those who have already expressed your interest. Details to follow in the next UPDATE. KiP, Jesse ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 28 Nov 1996 to 29 Nov 1996 ************************************************** From <@VM1.MCGILL.CA:owner-MLETHER@VM1.MCGILL.CA> Sun Dec 1 00:00:53 1996 Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 00:00:16 -0500 Sender: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List Reply-To: The Melissa Etheridge Mailing List From: Automatic digest processor Subject: MLETHER Digest - 29 Nov 1996 to 30 Nov 1996 To: Recipients of MLETHER digests Status: RO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 00:59:43 -0800 From: Michelle Reeves Subject: Austin Concert Hello all, My girlfriend and I were at the Austin concert and wanted to comment on Melissa's feelings on Austin. At the concert she explained how meaningful Austin is to her and Julie. Julie is a graduate of UT at Austin, and Melissa said she wrote "All the Way to Heaven" about Austin. We were excited, thinking these were more possibilities of why the baby's name will be Austin. Just thought I'd share. See ya. Michelle <>< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 07:43:34 -0600 From: Ghigau Subject: lefties Hey, all. I'm new on this list, didn't know there was one until a few weeks ago, and I was wondering why all the comments on lefties? Is Melissa left-handed? Just curious. I, too, am a southpaw, but I guess I had an exceptionally easy childhood compared to many others. I got my own special scissors and was just basically allowed to do whatever I wanted with either hand. Now, I am proud to say, I can do most anything with either hand, a feat most normal right-handers can't claim. Anyway, I was just curious where this thread came from. Happy Holidays from rainy Houston! Heather-Michelle "If the right half of the brain controls the left half of the body, then only left-handers are in their right minds." (Or something like that) ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 12:05:50 -0600 From: Janis Delmonte Subject: Re: LA Necklace Idea and Austin Joyce wrote: > At least, I don't think so...??? If my memory serves me correctly, Melissa > does ATWTH on the small stage in the back of the arena, so if they did the > necklace thing then, she wouldn't be able to see the entire effect and what > the necklaces spell out. Melissa has to be at the main stage in front, > right, for the plan to really work? > Yes, she does ATWTH at the small stage. She definately would not be able to see anything in the front row. > > Now, about Austin. This issue of Girlfriends mag has an article about the top > 10 most lesbian friendly cities in the United States. Guess what city is > ranked number one? *AUSTIN.* Whadda coincidence. D'ya think Mel and Julie > know? What are the other 9 cities? I hope Northampton MA is on that list. Once again I wish I lived in Austin instead of Dallas.... :( -Janis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:47:47 -0500 From: Julie Gauvin Subject: Looking for "Happy x-mas/war is over" Hi everyone! I don't know if someone can help me... It's almost Christmas time and I'm looking for the song Happy x-mas/war is over. I already have this song but the sound quality is very poor. I'd like to have a good version of this song with a great sound quality to listen to during X-Mas time!!! If somebody could help me, I would pay for the postage and the tape. I also have a lot of stuff to trade. E-mail me: aac006@agora.ulaval.ca Bye, Julie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:13:57 -0500 From: Sasha Friedman Subject: Hershey Tapes... Hi everyone... I was just wondering if anyone has a copy of the Hershey Park show .. I think it was August 24 ... I have lots to trade so... lemme know.. Peace Sasha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 18:02:16 EDT From: Marcy Kunst Subject: JJ movie Hiya. Today in the Idaho Statesman there was an long article from the Boston Globe, written by Matthew Gilbert. It was about how so many singers are now acting in movies. There was one line about Melissa: "Melissa Etheridge is scheduled to play Janis Joplin in a biopic to be directed by Marc Rocco." Does that make it official? How reliable is the Globe? ALSO, this is the 2nd day in a row that Melissa was in our paper!!! An amazing occurrence here in Boise. -marcy (p.s. less than 2 wks to Tacoma!) ------------------------------ End of MLETHER Digest - 29 Nov 1996 to 30 Nov 1996 **************************************************