From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #353 Date: February 2, 1998 4:02 AM etheridge-digest Monday, February 2 1998 Volume 01 : Number 353 *etheridge* I am still alive / MLE in MEIN-Chatroom [TimDunker@t-online.d] *etheridge* non MLE but REALLY cool [Linda Koehler-Fausel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 15:11:32 +0100 From: TimDunker@t-online.de (Tim Dunker) Subject: *etheridge* I am still alive / MLE in MEIN-Chatroom >hi everybody!!! >I don't know if this has been posted before.....anyway...obviously Melissa was >in the MEIN chat room on Thursday around 1 p.m. her time, and she said that >she'll go to the studio starting next week to record A NEW ALBUM!!!! The album >should be out in 1999 and that there would be a tour in '99 too!!! And it's >only February now :-((((...and that she and Julie were thinking about having >another baby...and that Julie would have it. Somebody said this who was in the >chat room at the time when MLE was there...so I hope this is not just rumors!! >It's funny though...when you ask in the room if anybody's on this list..mostly >the answer is "what list???"...LOL!!! >Oh btw....what ever happend to the SOTW???? >Martina Hi everyone, I am still alive and I just do have serious problems with my time. WORK & STUDY !!! :((( I just wanted to let you know that what Martina wrote are NO rumors. I was there myselfe when Mrs. Etheridge entered the room !!! WHAT A LUCK I HAD !!!! It was real great to chat with her. And the room wasn`t very full. Melissa even remembered that she still owes me a video tape. LOL Some of you might know that story. - Right Rhondda, Joyce, Jibb ... . Okay need to get back to learn. ---------- IN AUGUST I AM READY WITH MY STUDIES AND I CAN GET BACK TO WHAT I LIKE SO MUCH -------> COMMUNICATE WITH YOU !!! Hugs from cold Germany Tim Dunker ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 12:51:28 -0600 (CST) From: Linda Koehler-Fausel Subject: *etheridge* non MLE but REALLY cool still wondering why people think it's cool to post long-ass non-MLE jokes to the list... *rhondda* Cuz e v e r y o n e posesses their own definition of cool and that is a good thing otherwise it'd be really b o r i n g to each HER own one of the greatest gifts...is tolerance LKF ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 16:09:53 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: *etheridge* ADMIN--PLEASE READ: GUIDELINES & NMEC Posts Hi, all... There seems to be some confusion about what kind of NMEC is allowed/appropriate and what's not. I'm here to clear it up for y'all! :-) >>> Linda Koehler-Fausel 02/01/98 01:51pm >>> wrote: >> [rhondda wrote:] >> >>still wondering why people think it's cool to post long-ass non-MLE >>jokes to the list... >Cuz e v e r y o n e posesses their own definition of cool >and that is a good thing otherwise it'd be really b o r i n g > >to each HER own It's plainly stated in the list guidelines (included at the end of this post) that things such as the list of jokes and the anecdote posted on Friday are not appropriate for this list. I strongly suggest that eveyone read the guidelines, as it's only courteous to adhere to the rules. I even noticed that the address for the guidelines is now included in the 'Welcome' message that new subscribers receive when they join the list...so there are really no excuses for not knowing what they say. >one of the greatest gifts...is tolerance Right you are...as in the case of tolerance for the posting guidelines for the MLE list. Thanks, Jen Smith >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The following GUIDELINES can be found at: (http://www.geocites.com/WestHollywood/2020/GUIDELINES.HTM) last updated - October 23, 1997 (A copy of the entire post which contained this first posting of the guidelines after Deb's "retirement" can be found toward the beginning of the October, 1996, archives) (These guidelines have been amended where necessary due to my own email address changes and the change of address of the list from McGill to Esosoft.) 1) As has always been the case, cross posting from other lists or newsgroups is a no-no and can merit a warning upon repeated offense or if the material is extremely offensive in nature. [**Exception: Cross-posts are allowed if they pertain to the topic at hand, as we've seen inthe past few weeks with the gay parenting and Ellen issues. When cross-posting occurs under this exception I will send a reminder of the guidelines to the sender as a technicality only--no warning will be given.] 2) Posting of private e-mail w/o the consent of the originator is considered poor netiquette It's alsonot acceptable fare for this list and offenders will be issued a warning. **This is different than sending posts to the list, addressing a specific person, which *should* be taken to private mail. If I feel that an exchange between two people really does not warrant the space and time of the entire list, I will ask that further conversation pertaining to said discussion be taken to private mail. Requests of this kind are *not* warnings...they are simply courtesy calls. 3) CHAIN LETTERS, GET-RICH-QUICK SCHEMES, PETITIONS AND 'URBAN LEGENDS' ARE GROUNDS FOR IMMEDIATE REMOVAL FROM THIS LIST! This is stated in the FAQ that we all received when we first subscribed. This includes posts about 'Killer Computer Viruses', sick little boys who want post-cards, etc. As I do not have the ability to sub or unsub, removal based on this offense will be entirely up to the list owners. **The posting of other non-MLE related 'crap mail' (ie, lists of bumper sticker sayings, lists of jokes, lengthy anecdotes, etc.) will warrant one warning per incident. While some folks may find these posts amusing, the truth is that they are rarely original and have been circulating the net for years. They take up disk space and the more lengthy posts can sometimes take a while to download. 4) SELLING MLE-RELATED ITEMS ON THE LIST FOR PERSONAL PROFIT IS NOT ALLOWED! The MLE list is not maintained for use as a marketing tool nor a vehicle for personal monetary gain. This includes the selling of memorabilia which has no fair-market value (ie, picks, autographs, other items received from MLE, herself, in concert or chance meetings) and the selling of commerically purchased items at a price which garners a profit for the seller. Commercial items, such as 'import' CD's, picks and other memorabilia sold through the likes of MEIN or other outlets, posters, etc., maybe be offered for sale at fair market value *only*. It is preferred that the list-owners be contacted in advance if such items are to be offered. **This guideline has been put into effect not only for ethical purposes (this list is about sharing MLE-related information--not making money off of her name/likeness), but also for legal purposes. There exists a possibility that the owners of the list could be held liable in the event that it was discovered that the list was being used as a profit-making venture. Please hold this guideline in the highest regard. 5) Personal pot-shots and flames will not be tolerated on this list. Spirited discussion and mature debate is welcome and disagreements may be voiced, but direct attacks on each other will simply not fly. Thinly veiled attacks against one another (ie--"You know who") will also be grounds for me to issue a warning. If you feel that you simply *must* give someone a piece of your mind, give it to them off-list. **I will not be responsible for off-list feuding! If you become involved in an argument off-list, whether or not you are the perpetrator, there is absolutely nothing I can do to resolve the issue. If you feel strongly enough about something that someone from this list has written to you through private mail with regard to list material (if the situation turns into harassment, threats, etc), I will read a complaint, but I will not intervene. If you feel threatened or someone will just not leave you alone, you must take it up with the offender's provider. A person's off-list actions will have no bearing upon their list status, unless it comes to my attention that a person or persons are harassing or threatening people off-list on a regular basis. If this situation ever occurs, the matter will be forwarded to the list owners for their review. 6) As far as finger-pointing among listers...this, too, is a no-no. I won't take kindly to people writing to me and telling me that what someone else said offended them and that they think a warning should be issued. If you are offended enough to think a person should get a warning, then I suggest that you take it up with them through private mail. Remember--I'm subscribed to the same list that everyone sees. If things start to get rough, I'll intervene and attempt to keep things civil. **Administrative warnings/suspensions will never be made public--no exceptions. 7) This is not the MLE Info-Only list (MLE info-only is not moderated, as there is really no need for it). NMEC is allowable as long as it's in good taste and follows the guidelines set forth for MLE-related posts. NMEC is a big part of what makes this list 'family' to a great number of people. I will, however, reserve the right to ask that any topic (MEC or NMEC) be discontinued if it is apparent that the participants are allowing things to get out of hand (ie--flame wars erupting every other post, off-topic discussions that dwindle down to participation among only two or three people, etc). 8) Warnings will be issued for some of the more major violations (where stated above). Upon receipt of two warnings within a thirty day period, the offending poster will be suspended from the list for one week. Each warning thereafter will result in a suspension which will increase in duration with each incidence (ie--a lister's second suspension will last for two weeks, a third for three weeks, etc.). Repeated violations and suspensions will, at the discretion of the list owners, result in permanent removal from the list. For now, I will send a majority of ADMIN posts from (jsmith3@wp.bsu.edu). However, on weekends and in the evenings, if I see a need to send ADMIN messages or posts, I'll send them from (03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu). I'll try not to be too confusing where this is concerned. In closing, I'd just like to say that I think we all make up a mature, diverse, friendly, safe place in which to share our differences and similarities--the biggest of which is our mutual admiration for Melissa Etheridge. Thanks in advance for helping myself and all other listers to keep it that way! :-) Jen Smith - Moderatrix, Jr. jsmith3@wp.bsu.edu --OR-- 03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 21:34:41 EST From: Bravncrzy@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #350 Brandi had asked if ***SHE*** has ever sung the National Anthem. I can definately say that she has indeed ...at least once anyway!! A couple of years back, Martina announced her retirement and at her last Virginia Slims tournament Melissa honored her with an absolutely amazing rendition!!! That evening was just as special to me as I'm sure it was to Martina (please indulge me here o.k.? ;>)) For years, a few of my fellow female NYPDers and I would provide free security for the players of that particular event. After Monica Seles was stabbed, the players were a bit shaken up , so we were happy to lend a hand. Anyway, besides having the honor of rolling out Martina's departure gift - a georgeous Harley - to her at center court, my friends and I had the honor of meeting ***HER***. She was so kind. She took the time to chat with us, sign stuff and take a few pictures. (Maybe it was her way of saying thanks for ironing her purple satin shirt and bringing her her dinner...pasta, no cheese!) Anyway...after 14 years of law enforcement, I think that was one of the highest moments in my life! Thanks for letting me share. o~o ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 22:04:57 -0800 From: Angela Mula Subject: *etheridge* [Fwd: Hi] X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Message-ID: <34D55FF7.20E9@idt.net> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 21:56:07 -0800 From: Angela Mula Organization: http://members.tripod.com/~RNBWFLG/index.html X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Etheridge@majordomo.ecosoft.com Subject: Hi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wanted to say hi all.....I am new to this forum and are excited about meeting new people. If you want to learn more about me just go to the web page listed above. thanks a and m ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #353 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #354 Date: February 3, 1998 3:44 AM etheridge-digest Tuesday, February 3 1998 Volume 01 : Number 354 *etheridge* SORRY..... ["pat short" ] *etheridge* To Shirl the Hurl Girl. (very small) MEC!! [tchopkins@midame] Re: *etheridge* SORRY..... [Jennifer Jensen ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 12:33:24 CST From: "pat short" Subject: *etheridge* SORRY..... Hello MELISTERS, I was a bad girl....I am sorry....I didn't even know that forward got sent to the list..until I got on line and saw the Finkster's e-mail to me this morning! I know this list has posting guidelines...and I love this list and accept those guidelines...so don't worry guys...it won't be a habit! BTW....since I am posting....I had a very unsettling experience the other day....I was in the Mall of Americia...with my sweetie(Laura)...and all of a sudden CTMW started playing...but it was elevator music.....YUCK!!!! (It was a pretty scary thing!) Pat (who made quite a scene at the Mall holding her ears...screaming... "For the love of the Goddess make it stop!!" :0) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 19:04:13 -0600 From: tchopkins@midamer.net (thomas hopkins) Subject: *etheridge* To Shirl the Hurl Girl. (very small) MEC!! HOLA Kiddo's: Delurking to make a confession. I don't post much, but I needed to comically relieve you all. *smile* This little ditty is to the infamous Shirl the Hurl Girl. I noticed you brutally attacked a innocent soap dispenser? *raises her eyebrow* Well, I just have to say one thing. *sniffles, wipes her eyes, and collects herself* I BROKE ONE TODAY!!!! *breaks down in a melodramatic way* I was innocently just washing my hands and I went to get some soap, and the darned thing just fell off the wall. I barely touched the thing. I swear it jumped!! *sniffles* It was tragic. *wipes her nose* Butch points for me?? *childish grin* Life must go on, right? *smiles* Just thought I'd share my tragic event with you. On to other things, hmmm....Oh, HAPPY 4 days after BIRTHDAY to POOH!!!! Your posting are beautiful!!! Some questions to get you stirred up: Umm...does anyone know when Melissa will be touring again?? When the new album will come out?? When the Janis flic will show?? Did anyone happen to go to her "YLS" concert Oct. 5, '96 at Kiel Center?? Well I've done enough delurking for one month. *grin* Hope you all had a nice January. Anyone that would like to email me can at tchopkins@midamer.net. Keep It Precious!!! PEACE - LOVE MELISSA Leslie Hopkins "When I wake, the things I dreamt about you last night make me blush..." IG "Ghost" ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 21:32:31 -0700 (MST) From: Jennifer Jensen Subject: Re: *etheridge* SORRY..... Well, I work retail. All we hear every day is elevator music, and the highlight of my day is when they play the elevator versions of melissa's songs. it's better than nothing!! =) sometimes is On Mon, 2 Feb 1998, pat short wrote: >BTW....since I am posting....I had a very unsettling experience the >other day....I was in the Mall of Americia...with my >sweetie(Laura)...and all of a sudden CTMW started playing...but it was >elevator music.....YUCK!!!! (It was a pretty scary thing!) J. - -------------------- jenniferj@quill.net jjense03@hercules.baker.edu ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #354 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #355 Date: February 4, 1998 3:51 AM etheridge-digest Wednesday, February 4 1998 Volume 01 : Number 355 *etheridge* postings [Linda Koehler-Fausel ] *etheridge* Re: Melissa In The Room (MEC) ["Jane Vaughn" ] *etheridge* Non Related ["Christina Raehsler" ] *etheridge* MLE memorabilia at austin swap, seeing MLE inspired a guy to be a musician [Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* postings Thanks for posting the guidelines. Naturally, I've never read them, just like I never read directions, recipes...etc. Now perhaps there can be less wondering and sighing and just straight communication, which was the point in the first place. Snow in the forecast today...this can only mean one thing! Sledding! Happy Tuesday! LKF ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 08:50:58 EDT From: "Jane Vaughn" Subject: *etheridge* Re: Melissa In The Room (MEC) Hey gang! Just wanted to verify that Ms. Etheridge was in the house ( chat room) last Thurs. and much to the joy of my heart mentioned that Bailey Loves Pooh!!!!!!!!! "Yes" Also that a tour is scheduled for next year. :) That she would love to live in the country one day and that she does not like to fly though she has to do it! That she still has her bowling shirt but that she does not read this list. :( She said Julie and she would love another child but tht Julie would have it for she does it so well. I asked her if she liked "The Hansons!" I know I was sucking for air in my brain! She said they were okay she could put up with them. I said someone has to I guess which got a lot of laughs. And for now that is all I remember. List has been a bit quiet lately. How bout going on a little journey....... In each of us is a quiet place where we find harmony. Music fills our head as if a brooke spills over and quenches our thirst and sets our souls to soaring. In this time all we need do is listen and hear the sounds of a 12 string guitar strumming in boxcars and beneath lamps burning low. The music never dies we can hear it as we sleep. And soon the phoenix will rise again. The stage will come alive and all the rivers will be flowing. Have hope bring out the very first song of Melissas you fell in love with and listen.......... it will set your hearts to flight. Much Warmth, pooh Vaughn@oumail1.email.ohiou.edu ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 07:55:34 -0700 (MST) From: "Renee Sweeney" Subject: FW: *etheridge* SORRY..... >My sister works for MUZAK (I don't know how to do the trademark thingy)- >they're the ones who created "elevator music," so I have a lot of chances to >hear and hear about a LOT of different songs by many types of artists. > >Sis is also a big MLE fan so she tells me when they add something from her >repertoire- and I must say, I too, like the songs! I believe they have CTMW >and ITOO- I'll have to check and see what else is available... > >Just another one of those things that make you go "hmmmmm..." > >Renee' (in Dallas, who apologizes for the ramble, but it's gonna be that kind >of day...) > >p.s. The point of this whole post was to say I LIKE the "elevator music" >versions of MLE's songs... ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 09:01:47 -0800 From: "suz37" Subject: *etheridge* Pooh Of course Bailey loves Pooh!!! Who wouldn't. Forgive I have head cold and a brain fade...."The Hansons". Anxiously awaiting a new ME CD. Hugs, Sue ****Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so**** -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See ****If Nothing Changes, Nothing Changes**** ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 16:17:14 PST From: "Christina Raehsler" Subject: *etheridge* Non Related Up from lurking...... Unrelated info. G.I. Jane was released on video today for anyone who is a Demi Moore fan. (Which I am.) Back Under Christina ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 19:19:52 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* MLE memorabilia at austin swap, seeing MLE inspired a guy to be a musician here are a couple of articles i found today. the first should interest all of our austin residents, because you can bid on autographed MLE memorabilia at the 2nd annual rock and roll swap meet. and who knows - maybe you can find some "live imports" there, too. the second article is about how seeing MLE in concert inspired a guy to become a musician. guess there's hope for english teachers everywhere. ;-) unfortunately, he played the savannah, georgia area this weekend, so the info contained in the article is a bit out-of-date. big hugs to my YCSWID-tour buddy, tim dunker, who finally showed his face on the list again. :-) *rhondda* from the austin american-stateman: http://www.austin360.com/kgsr/events/events.htm FEBRUARY 15 KGSR's 2nd Annual Rock And Roll Swap Meet - Join us at the Austin Music Hall for an opportunity to buy, sell & trade rock and roll memorabilia. If you are a dealer who would like a booth (only $25!) call Austintatious Events at 451-3802 and reserve yours now. There will be live music from Reckless Kelly, Fastball and Alana Davis! The Silent Auction will benefit AIDS Services of Austin; you can bid on autographed guitars from John Fogerty and Widespread Panic, signed and framed posters and lithographs from David Bowie, Sarah McLachlan, Melissa Etheridge, Tracy Chapman, Jackson Browne, Fleetwood Mac and countless others, as well as a complete Bob Dylan CD Library, a signed Gregg Allman tour jacket and tons more. Food and drink and fun, too! and from the 1/30/98 SavannahNOW: http://www.savannahnow.com/stories/013098/SNDperry.html The world loses a high school English teacher By Gene Downs / Savannah Morning News Thank you, Melissa Ethridge (sic). Until he saw the rock goddess in concert, Brian Perry had every intention of being a high school English teacher. Instead, the 25-year-old North Carolinian is writing music, celebrating the release of his first CD and traveling to wonderful places -- such as Savannah Coffee House on Saturday -- to perform. Not bad for someone who, five years ago, didn't play guitar and had never written a song. "I push very hard at what I do, and I love it," Perry said Monday from his most recent stop, New Orleans. Perry grew up with music and played French horn, trumpet and a bit of piano in high school. But after graduating, he had no thought of living a musical life. "Then I realized, about two years into college, 'I'm about to go crazy,'" Perry said. "So I picked up a guitar, a friend taught me three chords and a couple of weeks later I wrote my first song." That was after the Melissa Etheridge incident, when he and some friends from Loyola University saw her concert in New Orleans one night and drove to Houston to see her again the next night. Etheridge signed Perry's guitar, which he carried along but couldn't play, and on the way back home friend Sonya Tutlow asked Perry what he wanted to do with his life. "I want to be an English teacher," he answered. "No," Tutlow pressed. "What do you want to do with your life?" He thought a moment. "Sing and play acoustic guitar." "Then, let's do it," she said. The next day, Tutlow bought a guitar and they started practicing together. Their first gig was at a New Orleans club on Perry's 21st birthday. Throughout the set, a couple of guys sat at a front table and had their own little concert. Just as well. "We sounded terrible, but it was intoxicating. It felt like going home," he recalls. "We knew we were bad, but we were out there having fun and learning." Tutlow and Perry -- still friends -- stayed together for a while before she moved to Atlanta. So, for three years, he's been solo. The long, lonely drives aren't great, but right now, he says, one musician is enough. "My feeling is, if I'm going to do a band, they would have to be clones of me," Perry said. "They would have to love it the way I do and be looking for the same things because it's about the music, ultimately." What: Brian Perry Where: Savannah Coffeehouse, 102 W. Congress St. When: Saturday More info: 233-5311 Web posted 1/29/98 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 23:23:03 -0500 From: JRinella Subject: *etheridge* Hershey/Harrisburgh Imports/trading I was wondering if anyone knows of any stores in the Hershey/Harrisburgh area to purchase ME imports or pictures if so email me pivately. Thanks in advance. If anyone is interested in trading let me know. KIP, Jen ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #355 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #356 Date: February 5, 1998 3:44 AM etheridge-digest Thursday, February 5 1998 Volume 01 : Number 356 *etheridge* Fw: NEW: Cheryl-Wheeler - A friendly discussion list (NMEC) [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 19:42:34 -0800 From: "Glenna Johnson" Subject: *etheridge* Fw: NEW: Cheryl-Wheeler - A friendly discussion list (NMEC) Hi, all! I know some of you have mentioned that you enjoy Cheryl Wheeler's music. Thought this might be interesting: - -----Original Message----- From: List Administrator To: NEW-LIST@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU Date: February 4, 1998 3:41 PM Subject: NEW: Cheryl-Wheeler - A friendly discussion list >cheryl-wheeler on majordomo@virtual-solutions.net > >The Cheryl Wheeler Discussion list is a new list for those of us who enjoy >Cheryl's music and wish to share in that enjoyment with others of similar >interest. While the primary focus of the list is the illustrious acoustic >singer/songwriter, networking with other Cheryl fans and friendly >discussion is encouraged. The only taboo topics are offensive ones, and >certainly to maintain respect for the other list members is a hig >priority. But ultimately the goal of this new list is to provide an open >forum where every idea or expression is acceptable and welcome. 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URL: http://LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU/archives/new-list.html ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #356 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #357 Date: February 6, 1998 3:43 AM etheridge-digest Friday, February 6 1998 Volume 01 : Number 357 *etheridge* anyone for SOTW??? [Martina Crevecoeur ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:01:55 +0100 From: Martina Crevecoeur Subject: *etheridge* anyone for SOTW??? hey there... No one responded to my question the other day what ever happened to the = SOTW (song of the week). Maybe no one knows or no one gives a damn . = Anyway...what about discussing some songs on YLS??? For example TWIO!! = One of my favorites on the album. I think Melissa is only to some extend = talking about the "war" of coming out and all the feelings and = difficulties that come with that. I think she's also, maybe even much = more, talking about other fears she had got and had difficulties dealing = with. Jealousy, obsession, insecurity...and being gay is just such a = small part of who you are. I listen to TWIO as being a song of = "maturity" of "growing up" as a person and finally "coming home" to = yourself.=20 Anyone???? Martina...formerly MC0611@aol.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #357 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #358 Date: February 7, 1998 3:32 AM etheridge-digest Saturday, February 7 1998 Volume 01 : Number 358 *etheridge* SOTW... [Leah Clarke-Nichols ] *etheridge* SOTW - TWIO ["James Mapp" ] *etheridge* sotw/two ["Melissa Font (USF)" ] *etheridge* SOTW [KUKULSKI@aol.com] *etheridge* MEIN update - bailey's 1st birthday [Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* SOTW... Wooooo! I have delurked for a bit! I think song of the week is a great idea. I love a nice philosophical discussion, and what better topic than the meanings of Melissa's work. I'd be up for it, if anyone else is (like Martina!) :) Welp, just my 2 cents werth for now... - -Leah _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 08:44:26 PST From: "James Mapp" Subject: *etheridge* SOTW - TWIO Responding to Martina's suggestion for TWIO as SOTW - this is a song that made little impression on me when I first got YLS. It wasn't until I saw "The Devil's Own" and heard TWIO at the end of the movie that I had any emotional reaction to the song. Since then I've always considered it one of the songs I want played at my funeral, along with "Everybody Hurts" by REM. The song can be about dropping the struggle against those who don't accept MLE (and others) who are gay, but in the right context, it can also stand for many different meanings. In "The Devil's Own" it was an appropriate eulogy for Brad Pitt's character, finally able to stop the fighting and give up his struggle. I've heard (perhaps on this list) that it reflects the final stages of AIDS or other terminal disease. It's a sad song, in that respect, because it reflects the loss of a human being, but the lyrics "take off my pain," "melt all the chains in my soul" also point out that death can be a release. My .02. Now I have to play something else on the CD player (B&C, perhaps) so I don't spend the rest of the day depressed. "Nil Illegitimi Carborundum" James ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 12:12:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Melissa Font (USF)" Subject: *etheridge* sotw/two I agree that TWO is very sad...I had to write a paper analyzing a song and I chose to do TWO...I wrote 800+ words about it, but i will not bother you with that at this moment. I think that the song can also be positive, because although the pain felt has been immense, now she can stop fighting and accept herself and be at home. I thought the same thing about playing the song at my funeral. It would be an affirmation to everyone there that death has taken me and that "I'm alright, I'm coming home..." I think the song definitely deals with being gay and fighting off all of the horrible streotypes..I find myself doing that everyday..but I wonder if when I die I will still be fighting off misconceptions, and if heaven will accept me... Now I've done it. I'm going to say goodbye before depression sets in..I should be happy..it's the weekend..no more school... Well, those were just my thoughts..thank you for sharing yours... Forever.. Melissa ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:29:17 EST From: KUKULSKI@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* SOTW "song of the week" sounds like a neat activity! Um though to tell the truth, I'm not a really big fan of the selected song; TWIO. It's not particually one of my favorites from YLS ... although once the disusion gets around to 'I Could Have Been You', which is my absolute favorite from the YLS cd, this would be of an interest to me. ......sorry all, you're on your own with chatting about 'TWIO'. I must say thou, it's a great song nevertheless! Kay PS. Does anyone know if the shirt logos are copywrites of those who "artistically" created em'? And if so, how would one go about contacting the individuals who designed them for premission of use? I just don't know how only one of the featured logos could've been choosen...as they were ALL so beautifully done! By the way, on the same subject ... I'd like to commend the person{s} in charge of designiing the logo screensaver, it's so cool! ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 19:00:33 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* MEIN update - bailey's 1st birthday MEIN has updated their "news" page to celebrate bailey's 1st birthday on 2/10. you can email a birthday greeting to bailey (in care of MEIN) and view their online birthday card they've created for her, too. check it out at http://fanasylum.com/melissa in the "news" section. *rhondda* "Come on let it rain, let it rain down on me Let the rain touch my hands, let the rain set me free Let it rain down on me" -- MLE, "the late september dogs" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 19:57:26 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* VH1's "Before They Were Rock Stars" some of you might remember when joyce luck posted a few months ago about MLE's possible inclusion in VH1's special, "before they were rock stars", a compilation of old pictures and other memorabilia before our favorite rock stars became famous. unfortunately, VH1 couldn't find enough old pictures of MLE to make it worthwhile to include her in the special. now, some of you may have been reading this week online or in the gossip columns about how the VH1 special was dropped at the last minute, due to sheryl crow's people allegedly getting all huffy about their gal being shown in a less than flattery light, by including old pictures of SC as a "chunky" drum majorette from her high school days and as a "pre-nose job, with big, blonde, curly hair singing backup for Michael Jackson" (quoted from "the NY post"). apparently, SC's people issued thinly veiled threats that they'd never cooperate with VH1 again if they aired the special as it stood, so VH1 pulled it. of course, all of this is denied by SC's camp. personally, i don't see what the big deal is because i've seen these SC pictures in Rolling Stone, but, hey, whatever. anyway, i mentioned this brouhaha to joyce during one of our recent conversations, and she told me subsequently that VH1 is now trying to include MLE in the special in place of SC, according to her contact at VH1. a source of old pictures has popped up, so they are attempting to revise the special to include MLE, after all. i should stress that her VH1 contact hasn't indicated whether they will be including MLE for sure in the special, but that they are trying their darndest. so, keep your fingers and toes crossed. joyce instructed me to post this, and since her wish is my command, here i am. ;-) swimmingly yours... *rhondda* "If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break, If it keeps on rainin', levee's goin' to break, when the levee breaks I'll have no place to stay" led zeppelin, "when the levee breaks" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 23:29:30 -0800 From: "suz37" Subject: *etheridge* Fw: UGh - Outback Steakhouses - please boycott Passing stuff along... Sue ****Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so**** -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See ****If Nothing Changes, Nothing Changes**** | >Saturday January 31... | >This evening Anna and Edie Theiss went to celebrate their one-month | >wedding | >anniversary at Outback Steakhouse in Baton Rouge, La. After waiting some | >ninety-plus minutes they were finally getting ready to be seated. Anna | >had her | >arm around Edie's shoulder and they were talking low to each other when | >the | >manager approached them and asked them to leave. He told them that | >another | >customer had complained about their behavior. There is every reason for | >every | >gay and lesbian in the area to be up in arms about this. It could have | >been | >you, it could have been me. It is up to us to fight for our | >rights--boycott | >Outback now. Pass this on to everyone on your buddy list; have them pass | >it on | >to everyone on their buddy list. | > | > | > | Sandy And Casper (U2) | icq #169396 | http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/2775 ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #358 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #359 Date: February 8, 1998 3:31 AM etheridge-digest Sunday, February 8 1998 Volume 01 : Number 359 *etheridge* Outback Boycott ["Olivier & Julie Lebaillif" ] *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #358 [Chris2Wood@aol.com] *etheridge* NMEC re:outback and kiel [SbHarvick@aol.com] *etheridge* Totally MEC [JLUCKY7@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 09:47:06 -0600 From: "Olivier & Julie Lebaillif" Subject: *etheridge* Outback Boycott I don't think you should get a lynch mob together to boycott the Outback because of one incident. What THAT management did was wrong and should be addressed to that particular restaurant, not all of them. Get a grip!! Julie (& Olivier) ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 10:23:38 -0500 From: WindWolf Subject: *etheridge* SOTW I don't understand why you all think that TWIO is a sad song...I always thought it was a song about accepting yourself andth end of the emotional battles that come up while you're trying to accept yourself (it could also be a metaphor for coming out too, but personally, I think it's much deeper than that...) my .02 Gina - ------------------------------------------------------ "They'll never make a saint of me..." - --Rolling Stones - ------------------------------------------------------- Gina A. Pond (aka WindWolf) gpond@elmira.edu worthyadvisor@hotmail.com - ------------------------------------------------------- ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 14:39:21 EST From: Chris2Wood@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #358 Hello Everyone, Pauline and I love the song TWIO. We were hoping Melissa Etheridge did a Video of that Song. It is a Long Song too, but we love the drums in this song as well. We feel like this song is a very spirtual one as well. It is like you are going to another plane of existence where there is nothing but Peace and Love. Like when Melissa says, Take Off My Shield, Carry My Soul, I Won't Need It Anymore. Find Me A Sky and Give ME My Wings, Frozen and Broken But, Free. Tell Them I'm Alright, Im Coming Home, Tell Them Im aliright, I Am Alone, This War is Over, I'm Coming Home!! This plane of existance is not feeling Struggles, Hatred, Jealousy, like when she says, Melt All The Chains In My Soul. She or He is Totally Free, of everything that's BAD. Almost Like the Struggle for what We believe in was Over. That She or He did the best they could on this plane of existence. It is Time not to fight anymore, that she or he did the best they could. Moving on to a better place of existence where there Is Love, Peace,Tolerance and Understanding. This is what we get from this song. This War IS Over, I'm Coming Home, No more need of fighting anymore, that she or he did the best they could while they was here on this earth. It is time to go to a Place where there is No more Pain, Hatred, Lack of Understanding and Jealousy. Everything is at Peace NOW!!! :o) ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:02:35 EST From: SbHarvick@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* NMEC re:outback and kiel delurking after a *long* time to say howdy to everyone and offer my .02 in the Outback "boycott". My SO and I eat at Outback regularly (a couple of times a week). We get preferential seating, service, good customer discounts, etc. I don't plan to stop eating there because of one unfortunate incident. I don't think what happened in Baton Rouge is their company policy (then again, maybe our Outback doesn't follow co. rules). But, what do I know is that their rack of lamb is *to die for*. tchopkins wondered if any listers were at the kiel show in st. louis in '96--yep, i was there (and d.c., and chicago, and memphis).......can't wait to do that again... well, take care all susie in st. louis ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:43:03 EST From: JLUCKY7@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Totally MEC Hi everybody, My partner, Lynn, was cleaning out the guest room yesterday and came across some old articles about Melissa Etheridge...they date back to 1988. I was yabbering with Rhondda yesterday online, and we made a deal. I'd post a review of MLE's appearance(s) at the Bottom Line, and in turn Rhondda would dig out an old review of MLE's appearance at Slim's here in San Francisco back in 1988 (which reminds me, I owe John Miller an email.... ;-) ) Anyway, so here it is: From the New York Times, Sunday, December 18, 1988 "Rock Singer's Yuppie Image" by Stephen Holden The growing popularity of Melissa Etheridge, a Kansas-born rock performer who is now based in Los Angeles, suggests that the vogue for female rockers who strut around in Spandex tights and shiny leather may be waning. The singer, who appeared at the Bottom Line on Monday evening, looks and sings like a yuppie Janis Joplin. Wearing a fashionable post-punk haircut, creased gray trousers, and a checkered jacket over a red shirt with a button-down collar, she might almost have passed for a rebellious young corporate executive. And her spare, dynamically precise music, which offers carefully measured doses of emotion, had the same air of intelligent calculation as her image. Ms. Etheridge's strong, distinctive voice has a built-in huskiness similar to that of Rod Stewart and Kim Carnes, though not as pronounced. The catch in her voice lends her singing an automatic aura of care-worn intensity. The voice is well-suited to original rock ballads like "I Want You," "Occasionally," "Don't You Need," and "Bring Me Some Water," which describe personal romantic dilemmas with a clipped directness. Propelled by her own plucked acoustic guitar, a typical Etheridge ballad builds from verses that have the tension of ticking time bombs into choruses that are released like controlled explosions. The lyrics are very matter-of- fact in dealing with jealousy, abandonment and longing. Even in the most declamatory moments, Ms. Etheridge shows a careful mastery of vocal shading. Working with only three other musicians, Ms. Etheridge gave each song its dramatic due in crisp, unfussy arrangements that didn't waste a note. Missing from the performance was the tiniest hint of wild rock-and-roll anarchy. - --END-- ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #359 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #360 Date: February 9, 1998 4:13 AM etheridge-digest Monday, February 9 1998 Volume 01 : Number 360 *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #359--review [LMYERS2HOU@aol.com] *etheridge* SOTW [PLSgo@aol.com] *etheridge* Re: SOTW/Outback/and a purple fringed jacket [Creve ] *etheridge* TWIO VIDEO??????? [monica@intergate.bc.ca (nicole read)] *etheridge* Re: SOTW&TWIO ["anken" ] *etheridge* Re: SOTW&TWIO ["anken" ] *etheridge* NMEC: My .02 on Outback [Copybuff@aol.com] *etheridge* Shirt Update...Order Form [SilntLgacy@aol.com] *etheridge* Re: Outback boycott ["Barry F. Hom" ] *etheridge* Mic`s so sorry... ["anken" ] *etheridge* Hiwatsons Concert Posting ["suz37" ] Re: *etheridge* Hiwatsons Concert Posting ["Glenna Johnson" > Joyce thank you for posting that wonderful review. It sums up what I have always felt about Melissa's talents but have never been able to put into words. And now, I'd like to hear from Rhondda. Loretta ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 07:55:05 EST From: PLSgo@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* SOTW Hey Martina thanks for reviving the song of the week!!!!! I also have to say that I don't think of TWIO as a sad and depressing song. On the contrary, I think it's very uplifting and positive. A song about freeing oneself from the domination of obsessions, fears and prejudices. MLE ended all of the YLS shows that I saw with this song singing it in a very positive manner and getting the entire crowd involved. IMHO having a song played at your funeral that you think is sad and depressing can only be a negative reflection of what you thought about your life. Personally I think I'll stick to playing MLE while I'm alive to hear it.....very loud at that and singing along One short comment about the Outback restaurants. I'm thinking these are individually owned franchised restaurants. I do believe the Outback here is owned by a local person. It's one of my favorite places to go and I recently had a most wonderful and enjoyable evening there with my sweetheart which I hope to repeat in April!!!! btw Rhondda I take it from the way you have been ending your posts that it's been raining a little in sunny California. Please please keep your living room dry because I've been promised a spot there when MLE performs that "private" concert. With the frequency of her visits to the MEIN chat room, I'm thinking she's got a lot of free time on her hands and probably will be calling you in the near future to make the necessary arrangements. Not to bring up "old" list discussions but I really think she's gonna look great wearing that purple fringed jacket while playing her "pink" guitar and don't forget those leather pants !!!!!!! Patty ~~am I your passion, your promise your end...I say I am, YES I AM~~ Melissa ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 15:06:51 +0100 From: Creve Subject: *etheridge* Re: SOTW/Outback/and a purple fringed jacket When a couple of people posted about TWIO in their opinion being such a sad song, I wanted to reply to that, but now that PLSgo@aol.com wrote: > IMHO having a song played at your funeral that you think is sad and depressing can only be a > negative reflection of what you thought about your life. WOW!!! Exactly!!! And > Personally I think I'll stick to playing MLE while I'm alive to hear it.....very loud at that and > singing along LOL!! Yes, hear her loud and proud and while you're ALIVE!!!! Hey Patty, great to see you post again!!! That must have been months and months huh ??? About the Outback...I mean boycott a whole restaurant chain in the States because one idiot works there...well, that's as bad as discriminating against millions of gay people because you happen to dislike one!!! I've been at an Outback restaurant with my girl-friend just recently. And we are very "open" and we were treated and waited on just the way it should be. So does that mean Outback all over the States is "gay-friendly"?? No, of course not. But that incident in Alabama doesn't prove the opposite either. My .02! Oh and Rhondda...please send me an e-mail when you got that date for Melissa's concert in your living room confirmed!!! PLEASE!!!! Hey come on...at least I spelled your name correctly. Wasn't that one prerequisite for getting invited??? LOL!!! Martina...from sunny and hot Germany...no, not really ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 10:08:35 -0500 From: Catherine Donkers Subject: *etheridge* susie in st louis susie: long time no speak! remember this michigan lister who drove to memphis in the convertible and took a group of ye listers in bowling shirts to the arena?? that was a great time! ME and Bruce... great song! i don't post much... just mostly reading... usually can find me in chat room lately. donk ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 08:32:20 -0800 (PST) From: monica@intergate.bc.ca (nicole read) Subject: *etheridge* TWIO VIDEO??????? hi, its been a while since i have been involved in a conversation but i thought i might respond to "pauline and i's" quick question about a video for TWIO...i believe i saw one on muchmusic but it was not a true video for the song...it was a remake of a christmas song with the TWIO music in the background...can someone back me up on this??? or correct me and tell what that video was called. i remember it was beautifully filmed outside in like a place like nevada... ttyl nic ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:57:33 +0100 From: "anken" Subject: *etheridge* Re: SOTW&TWIO Hi,you all, The SOTW-idea brought me out of the lurking corner again. I`m looking forward to it coz it would give me the chance to understand things I couldn`t figure out on my own so far. Refering TWIO my impressions are much like Gina`s and Chris`-for me its a optimistic&relieving song ...about leaving fight&struggle behind you and finding a place/state of peace and love finally. The picture I have in my mind when listening TWIO is comparable to that one produced by Late September Dogs(a song that I actually don`t understand exactly),you know, like standing outside in the rain with the water running down your hair&body washing you clean and you spreading your arms looking up to the sky...not crying but just feeling fulfilled and shouting "tell them I`m alright"... You don`t need your weapons and your defence anymore, you`ve overcome that state. I think MLE expresses that she has finally reached the point in her life where she knows who she is,what she is and where she is totally content with this,a point we all seek for. Still there is the sadness of her voice and the guitars which comes, Imo,from remembering all the struggles,hypocrisy and pain she had gone through for the past when she was searching and not knowing where to go... The song describes the moment when you look back on your life and draw a conclusion-weighing have & shall-sides against each other and establishing a certain balance-... All in all for me its a very important song on YLS and I love it dot Great drums,too. Love, Mic,who is not even in the near of that point,still searching. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:57:33 +0100 From: "anken" Subject: *etheridge* Re: SOTW&TWIO Hi,you all, The SOTW-idea brought me out of the lurking corner again. I`m looking forward to it coz it would give me the chance to understand things I couldn`t figure out on my own so far. Refering TWIO my impressions are much like Gina`s and Chris`-for me its a optimistic&relieving song ...about leaving fight&struggle behind you and finding a place/state of peace and love finally. The picture I have in my mind when listening TWIO is comparable to that one produced by Late September Dogs(a song that I actually don`t understand exactly),you know, like standing outside in the rain with the water running down your hair&body washing you clean and you spreading your arms looking up to the sky...not crying but just feeling fulfilled and shouting "tell them I`m alright"... You don`t need your weapons and your defence anymore, you`ve overcome that state. I think MLE expresses that she has finally reached the point in her life where she knows who she is,what she is and where she is totally content with this,a point we all seek for. Still there is the sadness of her voice and the guitars which comes, Imo,from remembering all the struggles,hypocrisy and pain she had gone through for the past when she was searching and not knowing where to go... The song describes the moment when you look back on your life and draw a conclusion-weighing have & shall-sides against each other and establishing a certain balance-... All in all for me its a very important song on YLS and I love it dot Great drums,too. Love, Mic,who is not even in the near of that point,still searching. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 15:26:04 EST From: Copybuff@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* NMEC: My .02 on Outback Re: Outback <> Don't know the original source of this story or if anyone on the list knows Anna and Edie personally, etc., but maybe it wasn't just an arm around the shoulder and maybe they weren't talking so low and maybe they were being too obnoxious in their affection for a public place. (Personally, PDAs don't bother me too much unless I can actually hear the spit being swapped, or the heavy breathing fogs up my water glass.) If anyone here knows different, then color me wrong, but maybe their behavior is being downplayed for a "boycott for boycott's sake." Maybe the whole story is made up. Does anyone know for sure? Not saying it *couldn't* happen or *doesn't* happen, but without verifying the source of the story, a blind boycott seems extreme, IMO. Just my .02. Diane B. (who has never and probably will never eat at an Outback Steakhouse but only because I refuse to wait any longer than 15-20 minutes at ANY restaurant!) ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:11:41 -0700 (MST) From: SilntLgacy@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Shirt Update...Order Form Hello fellow listers! Id like the thanks those who have gotten their shirt orders into me early...your packages are addressed and will be shipped as soon as I have the shirts in hand! Everything is going incredibly smooth (a little scary!) as I am checking my PO BOx daily to stay on top of things! I am again reposting the order form, and if there are any additional questions please feel free to Email me privately! Thanks again! Betsy From: SilntLgacy@aol.com Subject: MELISTERS Shirt Order Form Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:59:05 EST To all who are interested in ordering shirts, the following procedure will be used: 1) Print this form (if you do not have a printer, copy exact info). 2) Complete form IN FULL. Missing info will only delay your order, as correct orders will be processed first. 3) Add total of shirts,tax and postage. (Postage is $3.00 for 1-4 shirts, $4.50 for 5 or more) 4) Send COMPLETED FORM and MONEY ORDER ONLY made out to MARY FIEDORCZYK to address below. Amount must be paid in full. (US Funds) 5) Last day to order is February 14th. Order will be placed with vendors on February 20th. MELISTERS SHIRTS Name:________________________________________________ Address:_____________________________________________ City:_________________________________________________ State :________________________________________________ EMail:________________________________________________ Please enter my order for MELISTERS Shirts (purple with gold lettering) in the styles and unisex sizes indicated. ( If you are uncertain of size, please order larger as there are no returns.) PURPLE BOWLING SHIRT WITH GOLD TRIM (50/50 Cotton-Polytwill) ______ Small @ $32.50 each Total$________ ______ Medium @ $32.50 each Total$________ ______ Large @ $32.50 each Total$________ ______XLarge @ $32.50 each Total$________ ______XXLarge @ $36.50 each Total$________ ______XXXLarge@ $39.50 each Total$________ PURPLE GOLF (POLO) SHIRTS (50/50) ______Small @ $23.00 each Total$_________ ______Medium @ $23.00 each Total$_________ ______Large @ $23.00 each Total$_________ ______XLarge @ $23.00 each Total$_________ ______XXLarge @ $26.00 each Total$_________ ______XXXLarge @$28.00 each Total$_________ PURPLE BUTTON DOWN BASEBALL SHIRTS (50/50) _____Small @ $29.00 each Total$_________ _____Meduim @$29.00 each Total$________ _____Large @ $29.00 each Total$_________ _____XLarge @ $29.00 each Total$_________ _____XXLarge @ $31.50each Total$_________ SORRY.......XXXL IS NOT AVAILABLE IN THIS STYLE PURPLE TWO BOTTON HENLEY (50/50) _____Smalll@ $23.00 each Total$__________ _____Medium@ $23.00 each Total$__________ _____Large@ $23.00 each Total$__________ ____ XL@ $23.00 each Total$__________ _____XXL@ $27.00 each Total$__________ _____XXXL@ $33.00 each Total$__________ PURPLE T-SHIRT (Heavyweight 50/50) _____Small@ $13.00each Total$_________ _____Meduim@ $13.00 each Total$__________ _____Large@ $13.00 each Total$__________ _____XL @ $13.00 each Total$__________ _____XXL @ $15.00each Total$__________ _____XXXL @ $17.00 each Total$__________ ______ Total Shirts Shirt Total $__________ ______Rainbow Flag Embroidered Iron On Patches @ $4.45each Total$________ 5.5% Ohio Sales Tax$________ Postage$_______ Order Total Enclosed$_______ MAIL TO: MARY E. (BETSY) FIEDORCZYK PO BOX 333 NEW MIDDLETOWN, OHIO 44442 For questions EMail: Silntlgacy@AOL.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 17:17:42 -0500 From: "Barry F. Hom" Subject: *etheridge* Re: Outback boycott >I don't think you should get a lynch mob together to boycott the Outback >because of one incident. What THAT management did was wrong and should be >addressed to that particular restaurant, not all of them. Get a grip!! Yep, I think they ought to sue their butt! :) What surprises me is that they let their own homophobic beliefs get in the way of serving some paying customers. And here I thought the almighty dollar drove businesses. :) My 2 cents... Barry Hom bfhom@mindspring.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 08:34:11 +0100 From: "anken" Subject: *etheridge* Mic`s so sorry... A very shy "hi" to all of you,who suffered from my yesterdays double posting...really,I`m on my knees begging your pardon. Sorry, Mic,double-whammy-slammer. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 23:44:18 -0800 From: "suz37" Subject: *etheridge* Hiwatsons Concert Posting I just received an email about upcoming gigs re: the above band. It seemed to be addressed to everyone on this list--Personally--as opposed to the list. Does that mean that folks are able to obtain our personal email addresses in order to advertise other bands? Not that I am directly opposed to this, but I would like to know if that is the policy of this list to sell or provide people's personal email address for the purposes of advertisement. It seems alot like the sale of addresses to junk mail companys. Just asking...=) Sue ****Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so**** -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See ****If Nothing Changes, Nothing Changes**** ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 23:55:21 -0800 From: "Glenna Johnson" Subject: Re: *etheridge* Hiwatsons Concert Posting >I just received an email about upcoming gigs re: the above band. It seemed >to be addressed to everyone on this list--Personally--as opposed to the >list. Does that mean that folks are able to obtain our personal email >addresses in order to advertise other bands? Not that I am directly >opposed to this, but I would like to know if that is the policy of this >list to sell or provide people's personal email address for the purposes of >advertisement. It seems alot like the sale of addresses to junk mail >companys. I didn't receive this email (yet?). And no, I definitely don't sell email addresses. No one (not even list members) can even request the list of addresses (the "who" command has been disabled). On the other hand, all posts are archived, so an ad company with a lot of extra time on their hands could get the addresses of people who have posted... Take care, all. Glenna Johnson List mom ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 03:21:12 EST From: Sooz911@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* attn SHARON JONES Sorry to send this to everyone but I need to get in touch with Sharon Jones if she's still on the list. Some people have had questions about the MLE Desktop Theme she created that is available on my website. Susan http://www.geckotech.com/sooz911 ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 17:48:58 +0000 From: mardi Subject: *etheridge* hello from planet perth - mardi & rose trek to the USA(NMEC) Greeting oh wild imaging people...long time no chat from the land of perth. Just a quickie note to let anyone who cares know that Rose and I (Mardi - just in case you forgot!) will be in the US from the 15th March till the 12th April. We are going to be mainly based in San Fran from the 24th March (Disneyland and Sunset Boulevard prior to this time!!!!) and hopefully doing a couple of shows in Velvet Janes fashion in between times. So...we would love to catch up with some of you folks in that area while we are there. What say you all???? Is it time to PARTY again??? The BAB need some Aussie input into their existence again, it seems they have been getting rather tame of late..??!!!! (is that a challenge I hear???) Yahhaaa.... Mardi The Velvet Janes Email vjanes@space.net.au ICQ No 2879115 (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7848/ ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #360 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #361 Date: February 10, 1998 3:39 AM etheridge-digest Tuesday, February 10 1998 Volume 01 : Number 361 *etheridge* NMEC Indigo Girls RARE vinyl search [opacity@webtv.net (Lynn] *etheridge* Olympics soundtrack [edgy@linkline.com (Allison Fraiberg)] *etheridge* SOTW: TWIO [SHARON.A.ROUW@monsanto.com] *etheridge* MLE - review from 1988 slim's show... [Rhondda Ashby ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:35:27 -0600 From: opacity@webtv.net (Lynn Gothard) Subject: *etheridge* NMEC Indigo Girls RARE vinyl search Can you help in my search for RARE IG vinyl??? I have acquired the first two Indigo Girls LP's LMM1(on Dragon Label) & LMM2 Strange Fire (on Indigo label) and am searching for more OLD RARE stuff of theirs. Also the 7"Crazy Game/Everybody's Waiting (with picture sleeve of course!) , the COLORED (clear, red, blue) vinyl of both LMM1 & LMM2, the ORIGINAL cassette tapes Blue Food, The B Band: Tuesday's Children, Color Me Gray, Purple Parrot and the the CD Jesus Christ Superstar. I want ORIGINAL stuff only! Do you know of anyone that has these items that wants to part with them or the location of any of these items??? I would also be interested in the Rites of Passage promo 12" EAS4526 with the original artwork on the cover (preferably Amy Ray hand tracing or something she has done). I hope you can be of some help as I would really like to trace these items down------look very forward to your response!!!!! Thanks, Lynn PS I would be interested in any other RARE memorablia CD's, record awards, promo items that would be available! ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:16:27 -0700 From: edgy@linkline.com (Allison Fraiberg) Subject: *etheridge* Olympics soundtrack CBS' coverage of the Olympics last night included a few bars of "IWTCO" (just music) during women's hockey, I believe. Weren't droplets of Melissa's music sprinkled throughout the 1994 Games as well? Allison edgy@linkline.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 09 Feb 1998 12:14:38 -0600 From: SHARON.A.ROUW@monsanto.com Subject: *etheridge* SOTW: TWIO Thank you, Martina, for reviving the Song-of-the-Week! Although I don't always have the chance to write in before the week is over, I agree with many others who think that this is a good thing to keep going. As for TWIO, I also agree with all of you who believe this song is about "becoming one with yourself", so to speak. I like the lyrics; I love the message; I am bored by the music. It doesn't go anywhere or do anything, and I often find myself flipping it off after the first verse. Why listen any longer--I have heard it all already. So I find myself in a love-hate relationship with this song. I am disappointed by it, because it could have been so much more. Sharon ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:09:18 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* MLE - review from 1988 slim's show... as joyce said a few days ago, i promised her that i would post the review of MLE's slim's show in san francisco from 1988. not only is it great to read how someone viewed MLE back in the old days, but it's also fun to count the boo-boos in the review. see how many you come up with...btw, i found 5. ;-) *rhondda* "Melissa Etheridge In a Startling Debut" San Francisco Chronicle, October 14, 1988 By Joel Selvin Chronicle Staff Critic Every so often a talent comes along who has a lot to say and who will go a long way. Apparently word is already out about Melissa Etheridge - a couple of dozen people waited in a line outside her gig Wednesday at Slim's on the slight chance that somebody would leave the already sold-out gig and a space inside would open up. Her debut album, released earlier this year, has not exactly scorched the charts, but the airplay favorite off the set, "Bring Me Some Water," shows off her passionate, raspy vocals. But even the exquisitely crafted album wouldn't adequately prepare anybody for the breadth of talent and excitement Etheridge produced with ease at Slim's. Strumming a 12-string guitar and backed sparsely by a trio, Etheridge stood in front of the microphone and wrenched her songs out with an intensity just short of startling. She hardly looked like a glamour queen in her black shirt and faded Levi's, but Etheridge is clearly focusing her entire performance on her songs, not the ephemera. She mostly dispensed with instrumental breaks and just sang the songs straight through. The songs are the stars. Whether wistfully recollecting ("We Used to Love to Dance") or slyly wondering ("What Am I Gonna Do About You"), Etheridge packs emotion into her songs and builds them around dramatic dynamics that dip in the verses and crash into explosive choruses. Lost love appeared to be her special sensitivity, ruminating about a lover who "Left No Souvenirs" or caustically chiding another former beau about his new love with "Similar Features." "That shouldn't bother you," she sang. Her sandpapery voice suggests Tina Turner at times but suits the gritty reality she pours into her pieces. The key to her impact is the drama she wrings from her lyrics, with the stirring conviction applied to everything she sang. And there seemed no end to the abundance of her materials; she sang 15 songs in the more than hour-long performance, including many not yet recorded but easily as good as the stuff from her album. Her manager found the Oklahoma City native four years ago singing in a lesbian bar in Los Angeles and carefully led her through the paces to a deal with Island Records, which released her debut album. She toured earlier this summer, opening for Bruce Hornsby, and left yesterday to open European concerts with Huey Lewis and the News. But she'll be back. A talent this strong is as rare as it is exciting, and given the power of her performance, the depth of her materials and the ecstatic response from the packed house, Etheridge looks clearly to be someone who will be around for years. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 16:40:02 -0600 From: Patti Fink Subject: RE: *etheridge* MLE - review from 1988 slim's show... The inimitable Rhondda Ashby [rhondda@rocketmail.com] challenged us with: but it's also fun to count the boo-boos in the review. see how many you come up with...btw, i found 5. ;-) [~~ ] OK, I'll give it a shot here.... She hardly looked like a glamour queen ... [snip] [~~ ] :o What???!? (ok, just kiddin'....that's probably not one of rhondda's 5...) The songs are the stars. Whether wistfully recollecting ("We Used to Love to Dance") [~~ ] #1. "You Used to Love to Dance"... or slyly wondering ("What Am I Gonna Do About You"), [~~ ] #2. "Brave & Crazy" here, not "What Am I Gonna Do About You" Lost love appeared to be her special sensitivity, ruminating about a lover who "Left No Souvenirs" [~~ ] #3. Just "No Souvenirs" Her manager found the Oklahoma City native [~~ ] #4. Leavenworth, Kansas... four years ago [~~ ] #5. That would mean Chris Blackwell found her in 1984?? OK, anywhere close, rhondda? ;) Patti ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:28:33 -0700 From: edgy@linkline.com (Allison Fraiberg) Subject: *etheridge* rhondda's slim's quiz At 4:40 PM 2/9/98, Patti Fink wrote: >She hardly looked like a glamour queen ... [snip] >[~~ ] :o What???!? (ok, just kiddin'....that's >probably not one of rhondda's 5...) *keeping my mouth squarely shut* >four years ago >[~~ ] #5. That would mean Chris Blackwell found her in 1984?? Was Bill Leopold her manager from the start? Blackwell signed her to Island, but who was her manager in 1984? Oh, and since I'm here, has anyone heard comment from Melissa about Blackwell's "departure?" Allison edgy@linkline.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 19:26:33 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* spam, TWIO, the VJ's visit, slim's quiz, rain in response to sue's question about the "hiwatson's" concert schedule, i received this spam twice, once at my rocketmail account and once at my work account. i noticed quite a few familiar email addresses in the headers. i would suggest that everyone respond to this message and state that you wish to be removed from this person's mailing list. FWIW, i also mentioned in my message that if she continued to send me spam, then i would notify AOL, since i understand that spamming is a direct violation of their TOS (terms of service). nicole read asked: > ...i believe i saw one on muchmusic but it was not a true video > for the song...it was a remake of a christmas song with the TWIO > music in the background...can someone back me up on this??? or > correct me and tell what that video was called. i remember it was > beautifully filmed outside in like a place like nevada... i'm a bit confused by your description. you stated that it was a remake of a christmas song with TWIO music in the background - are you sure it wasn't MLE's cover of the john lennon tune, "happy xmas (war is over)"? that video has outside scenes from NYC, and MLE playing solo on a set. unless you're talking about NTG which was filmed in new mexico??? but that's not a xmas song... =================== mardi wrote: > So...we would love to catch up with some of you folks in that area > while we are there. What say you all???? Is it time to PARTY > again??? The BAB need some Aussie input into their existence > again, it seems they have been getting rather tame of late..??!!!! > (is that a challenge I hear???) tame? who us? ;-) thanks for the warning, mardi. guess i better get to sleep *now*, because i might just have saved enough energy by the time of your arrival. ;-) =================== Patti Fink wrote: > She hardly looked like a glamour queen ... [snip] > > [~~ ] :o What???!? (ok, just kiddin'.... > that's probably not one of rhondda's 5...) to which Allison Fraiberg replied: >*keeping my mouth squarely shut* LOL...well, like patti said, it wasn't one of the boo-boos i was thinking of, because it wasn't *wrong*, now was it? ;-) all in the eye of the beholder, i guess. back to patti: patti's 1st through 3rd guesses were the same as mine, as was the one about MLE being an oklahoma city native. however, my boo-boo #4 was in the line, "caustically chiding another former beau about his new love with 'Similar Features.'" former beau?! well, ok, MLE wasn't officially *out* yet, but from what i hear, this certainly wasn't a state secret. ;-) what's even more telling is that selvin goes on to state that her manager discovered her in a lesbian bar in los angeles. not that one has to be gay to perform or even go to a gay bar...so much for foreshadowing. of course, the argument could be made that selvin made the presumption that she was singing about a man, because MLE used gender-free pronouns in her songwriting. > four years ago > > [~~ ] #5. That would mean Chris Blackwell found her in 1984?? the review stated MLE's manager, not blackwell, discovered her 4 years ago, but like allison asked, i have no idea if leopold was her manager back in 1984 [enter joyce luck, stage left...]. back to allison: > Oh, and since I'm here, has anyone heard comment from Melissa about > Blackwell's "departure?" ooo, i'd love to hear what she'd say about that. i even attempted to formulate a "quality question" for the december chat, but i couldn't figure out a nicey-nice way to state it. not to mention, my definition of "quality question" is probably 180 degrees from MEIN's...;-) =================== yes, while we've been having rain of biblical proportions here in california, today was a sunny day! yippee! and never fear, the water would have to rise very high to reach my 3rd floor apartment, so MLE's future private concert in my living room is good to go any time she wants to set a date. ;-) oh, so THAT'S what the sun looks like... *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:23:22 -0700 From: edgy@linkline.com (Allison Fraiberg) Subject: Re: *etheridge* spam & slim (the paradox diet) At 7:26 PM 2/9/98, Rhondda Ashby wrote about the recent spam event: >i would suggest that everyone respond to this message and state >that you wish to be removed from this person's mailing list. FWIW, >i also mentioned in my message that if she continued to send me spam, >then i would notify AOL, since i understand that spamming is a direct >violation of their TOS (terms of service). first we're plagiarized, now we're spammed. what, in the name of decency, is next... hey rhondda, maybe AOL admin is more responsive than monmouth.com's eh? back to rhondda's boo boo #4: >however, my boo-boo #4 >was in the line, "caustically chiding another former beau about his >new love with 'Similar Features.'" former beau?! ok, joyce, please help. this reminded me of an old tv interview ('88?) in which melissa talks about a song being about "him" (not) calling. it was on the video compilation that someone from ottawa sent around back in '93. argh, i just wanna remember the song she was talking about, but i lent my compilation out last year. >what's even more telling is that selvin goes on to state that her manager >discovered her in a lesbian bar in los angeles. boo boo #6: the bars were in long beach (que sera) and pasadena (what is now club 3772), not los angeles. yeah, i know, technicalities but they *are* separate cities. Allison edgy@linkline.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 00:08:27 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: Re: *etheridge* spam & slim (the paradox diet) Allison Fraiberg wrote: > first we're plagiarized, now we're spammed. what, in the name of > decency, is next... slander? libel? draw and quartering? tar and feathering? the possibilities are endless. > hey rhondda, maybe AOL admin is more responsive than monmouth.com's > eh? we can only hope, my friend. ;-) it certainly can't get much worse. > boo boo #6: the bars were in long beach (que sera) and pasadena > (what is now club 3772), not los angeles. yeah, i know, > technicalities but they *are* separate cities. being from northern california, i was gonna let that one slide. LA's just one big urban sprawl, isn't it? ;-) hey, LA - need some water? we'll give it away to you this time. p.s. happy 1st birthday, bailey! *rhondda* "Water, water, every where, / And all the boards did shrink; Water, water, every where, / Ne any drop to drink." - -- Samuel Taylor Cooleridge, "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner", 1798. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:02:19 +0100 From: "anken" Subject: *etheridge* Bailey1st! :-)))------CONGRATULATIONS & CELEBRATIONS----(((-: {{ () }} {{ | | }}} {{{ | | }}}}} | | |__| My best&warmest wishes to this little girl,who crawled into life just one year ago and was named Bailey. May Love`s Light shine on her and wrap her in pure comfort- ( as well as it may do this to all the MElisters btw) Take care and enjoy what fate has given to you, Mic. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #361 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #362 Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 3:48 AM etheridge-digest Wednesday, February 11 1998 Volume 01 : Number 362 *etheridge* responsiveness ["Bonnie Phillips" ] *etheridge* Leopold, Rain, MLE's "Boyfriend" [JLUCKY7@aol.com] *etheridge* Blackwell [SHARON.A.ROUW@monsanto.com] *etheridge* "Melissa Etheridge In a Startling Debut" [TimDunker@t-online.] *etheridge* NMEC...list posts copied to the AOL board [Creve Subject: *etheridge* responsiveness Allison Fraiberg wrote: >is next... hey rhondda, maybe AOL admin is more responsive than >monmouth.com's eh? AOL's pretty good about responding to spam complaints. Besides they can afford to lose a few paying customers (particularly as their rates are going up in a couple of months). Monmouth may not have enough customers to be able to afford to kick off our favorite "if it's about Melissa it's ok to post even if it's plagiarized/not attributed/ without permission" person. Besides she bought them Listserv (to keep people she didn't like off her list). They may feel indebted to her. Bonnie "If you have to be handcuffed to somebody, Pierce Brosnan is a pretty good choice." (Michelle Yeoh) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:49:49 EST From: JLUCKY7@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Leopold, Rain, MLE's "Boyfriend" Rhondda said: > > [~~ ] #5. That would mean Chris Blackwell found her in 1984?? > > the review stated MLE's manager, not blackwell, discovered her > 4 years ago, but like allison asked, i have no idea if leopold was > her manager back in 1984 [enter joyce luck, stage left...]. Yup, Bill Leopold was MLE's manager back then. 1984 was the year they got together. Rhondda then said: <> Yes, I even went for a walk yesterday to check out the mudslides farther up our hill. Suffice it to say that I'm glad we bought some sand bags over the weekend.... Allison said: <<>however, my boo-boo #4 >was in the line, "caustically chiding another former beau about his >new love with 'Similar Features.'" former beau?! ok, joyce, please help. this reminded me of an old tv interview ('88?) in which melissa talks about a song being about "him" (not) calling. it was on the video compilation that someone from ottawa sent around back in '93.>> Boy, I honestly don't remember this one (which definitely does *not* mean that it doesn't exist!). I do remember MLE, in many places--on bootlegs, in articles, etc--referring to her lover with the non gender specific "them." That seems to be what happened in her famous Music Express interview, the one in which the reporter tried so hard to "out" Melissa. MLE said later that she hadn't said "him" to the reporter when talking about her S.O., but the reporter put those words in her mouth and referred to a mysterious "boyfriend" with whom MLE shared an apartment. If there is an interview out there in which Melissa *herself* clearly says, "him," I would love to hoot at that. ;-) Copies, anyone? Slip, sliding away, Joyce ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 10 Feb 1998 12:30:15 -0600 From: SHARON.A.ROUW@monsanto.com Subject: *etheridge* Blackwell >> Oh, and since I'm here, has anyone heard comment from Melissa about >> Blackwell's "departure?" >ooo, i'd love to hear what she'd say about that. i even attempted >to formulate a "quality question" for the december chat, but i >couldn't figure out a nicey-nice way to state it. not to mention, >my definition of "quality question" is probably 180 degrees from >MEIN's...;-) Perhaps one of our friends here on the list that frequents the chatroom could ask sometime when Melissa shows up there unexpected? Sharon ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:49:25 +0100 From: TimDunker@t-online.de (Tim Dunker) Subject: *etheridge* "Melissa Etheridge In a Startling Debut" Hi there, my lovely car"mate" from our YLS-Tour or better called YCSWID-Tour wrote: >"Melissa Etheridge In a Startling Debut" >San Francisco Chronicle, October 14, 1988 >... and left yesterday to open European concerts with Huey Lewis and >the News. I REMEMBER SO GOOD AND IT GIVES ME A VERY WARM FEELING. 6 days after that show I saw our Melissa the very first time my selfe and 10 days later I had the great luck to talk to her. Thanks for reminding me of that time !!! Kind regards Tim Dunker ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:27:58 +0100 From: Creve Subject: *etheridge* NMEC...list posts copied to the AOL board Glenna wrote: <> But I was wondering how members of this list deal with the "email = address issue" themselves!!!??=20 There's that AOL Melissa board and it appears that on quite a regular = basis (daily?) posts who have been made to this list (and just to this = list!) are copied and posted in their entirety to that AOL board. Email = address of the list member included!!! Okay, so if members of this list = are on that AOL board too and want to copy a list post...well obviously = there's no way to prevent that, but I don't want to see my email address = there!!!! And I don't know if list members who are not with AOL (and who = don't even know about this) have been asked their permission.=20 I am not posting to the AOL board (and I do have an AOL account too) = neither am I reading it. So I can't see any reason why my list post and = email address should appear there. If I wanted to, I would post there = myself.=20 Martina =00=00 ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:57:21 EST From: Bfmp@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* MLE music at the Olympics First-time poster here, so I hope it's sent correctly... Re: etheridge-digest V1 #361, Allison wrote: << CBS' coverage of the Olympics last night included a few bars of "IWTCO" (just music) during women's hockey, I believe. Weren't droplets of Melissa's music sprinkled throughout the 1994 Games as well?>> I didn't hear that but I did hear a few musical measures of IRLY and half of a "Hey!" that I would recognize anywhere. It was played as a cutaway from the announcers. Made me :-). I don't recall about the '94 games, but I do remember Katerina Witt(sp?) skating a program several years ago to an ME tune (ITOO, I think), complete with a black leather, a la ME laced-up-the-front costume. She did do it justice(the music, of course, lol). BTW, many thanks to those of you out there who keep us up on the latest ME scoop...I appreciate it. Peace- Pat '&' # # _#_ ** ( # ) ** / O \ ** ( === ) **** ` --- ' ****** Is there a song inside of you... ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:13:02 -0700 From: edgy@linkline.com (Allison Fraiberg) Subject: Re: *etheridge* MLE's "Boyfriend" At 12:49 PM 2/10/98, JLUCKY7@aol.com wrote: >If there is an interview out there in >which Melissa *herself* clearly says, "him," I would love to hoot at that. >;-) Copies, anyone? I'm sure of it. It was about "him calling"...I also remember a tie-dye shirt and a headband... I'll see if I can procure my long-lost tape. Surely someone else from the class of '93 (or earlier) is still on the list? Did anyone else get that tape? I seem to recall he only made ten copies. Allison edgy@linkline.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:52:13 -0700 (MST) From: "Renee Sweeney" Subject: RE: *etheridge* MLE - review from 1988 slim's show... Couldn't this technically (or maybe not so technically) be called an error? >===major snippage=== >caustically chiding another former beau about his new love with "Similar >Features." "That shouldn't bother you," she sang. A former BEAU? I think not, MEListers! Wouldn't that be a former beau-ette?! Anyway, just thought I'd throw that little chuckle in for good measure! Take care, you guys- Later- Renee' (in Dallas, who misses MyLizabeth this week and hopes your Mom is doing well...) ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:24:19 -0700 From: edgy@linkline.com (Allison Fraiberg) Subject: Re: *etheridge* reposting (NMEC) At 8:27 PM 2/10/98, Creve wrote: >There's that AOL Melissa board and it appears that on quite a regular >basis (daily?) posts who have been made to this list (and just to this >list!) are copied and posted in their entirety to that AOL board.... And I >don't know if list members who are not with AOL (and who don't even know >about this) have been asked their permission. **** This brings up another issue. Sue Paduano encourages subscribers on her list to repost messages they find here on her teen etheridge list. She also tells them to strip any attribution to the original author. Most recently, a post by Rhondda and me showed up on Sue's list stripped to look as if the reposter had written it herself. When I complained to the reposter, she apologized and said that Sue had told her to strip all evidence that someone other than the reposter had written it. An unfortunate mistake for the reposter, but the problem lies with Sue Paduano telling her subscribers to plagiarize. Asking permission to repost is a courtesy, but stripping all attribution is plagiarism. So there are three issues: 1. Attributing posts (and running the risk of addresses splattered about; this could be remedied by giving *name* attribution only). 2. Being polite and asking permission to repost something. 3. Reposting by stripping all attribution, thereby plagiarizing. Sue calls #3 "sharing." That's like someobody walking into my house, talking my cd player, going home and calling the whole thing "sharing?" So, buyer beware, any significant MEC posted here is probably being passed off as someone else's on Sue's list. And I'm not even going to mention the times that MEIN has taken stuff of mine posted here and reposted it to their list, with no acknowledgement. Allison edgy@linkline.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #362 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #363 Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 3:49 AM etheridge-digest Thursday, February 12 1998 Volume 01 : Number 363 *etheridge* pronouns & plagiarism ["Bonnie Phillips" ] Re: *etheridge* NMEC: Word's Worth [Deb ] *etheridge* blackwell & SOTW ["Patty Kolakowski" ] *etheridge* NMEC: Ellen, Boise [betasurely@lesbois.com] RE: *etheridge* NMEC: Word's Worth [Creve ] *etheridge* To Post or Not to Post on AOHell [JLUCKY7@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 04:18:56 PST From: "Bonnie Phillips" Subject: *etheridge* pronouns & plagiarism Joyce Luck wrote: >That seems to be what happened in her famous Music Express interview, the one >in which the reporter tried so hard to "out" Melissa. MLE said later that she >hadn't said "him" to the reporter when talking about her S.O., but the >reporter put those words in her mouth and referred to a mysterious "boyfriend" >with whom MLE shared an apartment. There is nothing in that article (I have it right here in front of me) that mentions sharing an apartment with a boyfriend (though I saw that in a newspaper article pre- or post- the "Never Enough" concert). There is the line "And while she's not quite ready to give up on her childhood dream of finding Prince Charming...". Allison Fraiberg wrote: >apologized and said that Sue had told her to strip all evidence that >someone other than the reposter had written it. An unfortunate According to Sue, "plagiarism" has something to do with anger and attacking (I have no idea what dictionary she uses to come up with her consistently wrong definitions) so thus reposting without attribution in the name of "sharing" can't possibly be plagiarism. >Sue calls #3 "sharing." That's like someobody walking into my house, >talking my cd player, going home and calling the whole thing "sharing?" Damn, see if I ever come to your house again! >So, buyer beware, any significant MEC posted here is probably being passed >off as someone else's on Sue's list. Then again without this list there would be no significant MEC posts over there. >And I'm not even going to mention the times that MEIN has taken stuff of >mine posted here and reposted it to their list, with no acknowledgement. Have you complained to them (for all the good that will do)? Bonnie "If you have to be handcuffed to somebody, Pierce Brosnan is a pretty good choice." (Michelle Yeoh) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:59:01 EST From: JLUCKY7@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* The Pronoun Thingy Bonnie wrote: > There is nothing in that article (I have it right here in front of me) > that mentions sharing an apartment with a boyfriend (though I saw that > in a newspaper article pre- or post- the "Never Enough" concert). There > is the line "And while she's not quite ready to give up on her childhood > dream of finding Prince Charming...". > Thanks for the correction. Drat, I wish I could remember where I read it, then....but all my notebooks are in the basement. If I find some time, I'll try to wade through the water, find the box, dig out the article, and post the lines in question. Yes, the Prince Charming line sure does ring a bell. Actually, for some reason, something about a radio interview in which MLE bashes the Music Express reporter for saying something about her boyfriend is nagging at me too...maybe I'd better pull out those as well. That could be what I'm trying so unsuccessfully to recollect. Rhondda said: >So, buyer beware, any significant MEC posted here is probably being passed >off as someone else's on Sue's list. To which Bonnie replied: >>Then again without this list there would be no significant MEC posts over there.<< Funny, and quite a ruckus was raised when that list was lopped out of the bio due to space concerns, concerns that that list hadn't existed long enough to be legit, and, umm, among other things.... ;-) Later, all, Joyce ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:03:00 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: *etheridge* NMEC: Word's Worth >>> Creve 02/10/98 02:27pm >>> writes: >posts who have been made to this list (and just to this list!) are copied >and posted in their entirety to that AOL board. Email address of the list >member included!!! This would tend to severely piss me off. As far as I'm concerned, if someone is going to cut-n-paste posts from *any* list to another medium, they'd damn well better have permission if they are going to include the original poster's name and email addy. I don't feel as though permission is necessarily needed if they cut-n-paste and don't include the name of the original writer...*if* they preface the copied material with something along the lines of, "The following is a post taken from the list." It doesn't take much effort to email the original poster and ask permission to use the material, however, and it *is* the most courteous thing to do. >but I don't want to see my email address there!!!! I wouldn't blame you. >And I don't know if list members who are not with AOL (and who don't >even know about this) have been asked their permission. My guess would have to be, "No, they've not asked anyone's permission." >I am not posting to the AOL board (and I do have an AOL account too) >neither am I reading it. I understood you to say that you knew that posts from this list were appearing on the AOL board on a regular (daily?) basis. If you're not a regular participant on the AOL board, how have you discovered MLE list posts appearing there? >>> Allison Fraiberg 02/10/98 10:24pm >>> opened a can o' worms : >Sue Paduano encourages subscribers on her list to repost messages >they find here on her teen etheridge list. Of course she does...they've got to have some *valid* MLE content upon occasion...and not just drivel that Sue pulls out of her butt and calls 'fact'. [*moderator's note...I'm issuing myself a warning for this comment--and quite possibly the rest of this post...one more warning in the next 30 days and I'm outta here for a couple of weeks.] >She also tells them to strip any attribution to the original author. Well, I will say that I agree with stripping attribution, *IF*, as I said before, the reference is prefaced by, "This post was taken from..." I might be inclined to post info from another source to this list, verbatim, if I thought it would be of interest. However, I would certainly make it clear that it *was* from an un-named source. I would probably be more inclined, however, to just mention that, "I heard this...," and re-word the info. However... >Most recently, a post by Rhondda and me showed up on Sue's list >stripped to look as if the reposter had written it herself. ...this is not OK. And I'm almost sure that, as you mentioned, the reposter might not have known any better. What would frost me even more, however, would be re-posting with the attributes in tact w/o my permission or knowledge of the use of my words. As Martina said, if I want my thoughts/ideas/comments on any given topic posted in more than one location, I'll be sure that it gets there myself. >3. Reposting by stripping all attribution, thereby plagiarizing. > >Sue calls #3 "sharing." That's like someobody walking into my house, >talking my cd player, going home and calling the whole thing "sharing?" So...if I come get your CD player and take it to my house it's ok as long as I put a sign on the wall over it that reads, "Edgy's Boom Box," and has an arrow pointing down? :-) j/k!!! Sue has her own definition of many different things, and there is no use in trying to change her mind (although it can be fun to try!). OTOH, a person can grow old very quickly trying to explain things to her in terms of rationality, laws and common sense. >And I'm not even going to mention the times that MEIN has taken stuff of >mine posted here and reposted it to their list, with no acknowledgement. This is close to what I'm talking about wrt to 'sharing' as opposed to 'stealing' the written word. I know that on one occasion, info that I posted to this list showed up at the MEIN shortly after. It wasn't a cut-n-paste deal (although close to it...and, btw, y'all be careful when typing 'cut-n' quickly!), yet they did post the info as though it was coming from them and the wording was too similar to my own to *not* have been taken from my post. It would be nice if they would at least attribute the info to the MLE list, but then they might also see this list as an competition of informational sources. Again, this I don't mind nearly as much as out and out plagiarsim. I can't speak for you, Allison (or anyone else), because I didn't see the MEIN stuff you referenced first-hand. And it is, after all, just my own opinion. 'K...guess it's time for me to climb down off my soapbox now and get back to work. One final note: On the off chance that all or parts of this post 'make it out of here', Sue's teen-etheridge list members take this message to heart and use it as an opportunity to gain knowledge about netiquette and plagiarism/copyright issues that you won't get from Sue. jen--who reminds everyone to drive safely. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The more articulate one is, the more dangerous words become. --May Sarton ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:28:57 -0800 (PST) From: Deb Subject: Re: *etheridge* NMEC: Word's Worth - ---Jenniffer Smith wrote: > This would tend to severely piss me off. As far as I'm concerned, if > someone is going to cut-n-paste posts from *any* list to another medium, > they'd damn well better have permission if they are going to include the > original poster's name and email addy. I disagree. The only time I expect to give permission for a forward is if my original post appeared on a closed list with rules to that effect (as many of my lesbian lists do). Since anyone may subscribe to this Etheridge list, it would stand to follow that anyone should be able to receive a forward from it. Rather, I strenuously (that's "really, really" for Sue's list members) object to people forwarding my posts without attribution ("credit"), making it appear to be that person's effort. A member of Sue's list notified me months ago that Sue had done that to a post of mine here, and I asked her to refrain from that practice in the future. To me, there are 2 valid options: 1) forward completely intact, headers and all, or 2)paraphrase ("put it in your own words") the information yourself. But I don't think permission for either should be required unless it's a closed list. - -- Deb, hoping she can't get a warning for being ROFL about Jen's facts-from-butt comment :-D - -- (indigo@mindspring.com on the road!) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:10:07 -0600 From: "Patty Kolakowski" Subject: *etheridge* blackwell & SOTW Hi, > has anyone heard comment from Melissa about Blackwell's "departure?" The way artists jump from record company to record company, I wondered if Melissa felt as devoted to Island now that Chris Blackwell is gone. It also seems I remember reading that Island was having some financial problems. (Could that be why Blackwell left or because he is gone) SOTW: This War is Over is one of my favorite songs on YLS. I love that small part where the music stops and she sings a couple of lines acappella. pk ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:19:07 -0700 From: betasurely@lesbois.com Subject: *etheridge* NMEC: Ellen, Boise Anyone notice that this week is the second time this season that Ellen has given Idaho a tip of the hat on her show? Doncha think that MUST mean she's fishing for an invite to my place? Mmmhmmm. -marcy - -- "Life is full of wonder, love is never wrong." M.L. Etheridge http://www.lesbois.com/betasurely ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:08:46 +0100 From: Creve Subject: RE: *etheridge* NMEC: Word's Worth Jen asked: << I understood you to say that you knew that posts from this list were appearing on the AOL board on a regular (daily?) basis. If you're not a regular participant on the AOL board, how have you discovered MLE list posts appearing there? >>=20 I was waiting for this question !!=20 Some time ago I made a post to the list and in this post I obviously = mentioned *this list*. So then I get these private e-mails by various = people commenting on my list post and then asking me "what is *the = list*?????". I thought, now is this stupid or what??? They are on the = list and don't even know it!!!!???? But then these e-mails were all by = AOL members. Then it dawned on me!! I knew about the AOL Melissa board, = so I went there and sure enough. There was my post....and Rhondda's, = Tim's, Joyce's...etc. etc.......(with Joyce's permission though!!! = because it said so!!!). I just went back ten days and I found a couple = of list posts!! And then I talked with my gf about that and she told me = that that has been going on for quite some time!! Martina----who can't wait for the next *warning* Jen will be getting by = the moderator!!! LOL!! =20 ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 01:28:32 EST From: JLUCKY7@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* To Post or Not to Post on AOHell In a message dated 98-02-12 01:11:20 EST, Martina wrote: > Then it dawned on me!! I knew about the AOL Melissa board, so I went there and > sure enough. There was my post....and Rhondda's, Tim's, Joyce's...etc. etc.... > ...(with Joyce's permission though!!! because it said so!!!). I just went > back ten days and I found a couple of list posts!! And then I talked with my > gf about that and she told me that that has been going on for quite some time! > ! > I don't remember when this thread started, but the person doing the reposting contacted me this past weekend to ask for my permission to repost that Bottom Line review I posted here....and I don't think she's reposted anything else from this list since then--? (I might be wrong about that; I haven't checked.) But perhaps she asked for my permission because she has been reading this thread and realized she should be asking people for permission? If not, I'm gonna guess the point has been made abundantly clear to her by now. :-) If not, I'll mention it to her the next time I see her online. Hopefully this will solve this one particular problem. Staying afloat, Joyce ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #363 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #364 Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 3:50 AM etheridge-digest Friday, February 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 364 *etheridge* etheridge-digest V1 #363 -Reply [Colleen Lanthrip ] *etheridge* ME Shirt Order Form [roger zender ] *etheridge* Thanks for the Form!! [roger zender ] Re: *etheridge* Time for a new SOTW ["Tricia" ] *etheridge* Odd "Facts"/Band Members [JLUCKY7@aol.com] *etheridge* MEIN - 02/12/98 update [Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* attribution/contracts Joyce wrote: >Funny, and quite a ruckus was raised when that list was lopped out of the bio >due to space concerns, concerns that that list hadn't existed long enough to >be legit, and, umm, among other things.... ;-) The subject came up again recently and she wasn't as upset about it as when the bio came out. She claimed it was an editorial decision made by McGill, the publishing company for which Dave and Glenna work. (Stay with me, it gets better). It was explained that McGill is a university so any publishing they may do would be of an academic nature. But more importantly somebody who knows Dave and Glenna told her that Glenna never went to McGill and Sue refused to believe it because it wasn't first hand knowledge. Yet Sue wants us to believe that she's got a degree in psychology. A regular visitor to the psych ward, maybe. Jenniffer Smith wrote: >occasion...and not just drivel that Sue pulls out of her butt and calls 'fact'. You mean like "Harvey Milk was mayor of San Francisco when he was shot" and "there was no unmarried president because it's a requirement that they be married"? See how much you can learn on her list. >Well, I will say that I agree with stripping attribution, *IF*, as I said before, >the reference is prefaced by, "This post was taken from..." I might Nope, she'd prefer that most information look like it came from her. If somebody posts info that she's already posted, she makes damn sure to announce that she's already posted it. >So...if I come get your CD player and take it to my house it's ok as long as >I put a sign on the wall over it that reads, "Edgy's Boom Box," and has an >arrow pointing down? :-) j/k!!! Phew! Now I can go to Edgy's house again. :-) >taken from my post. It would be nice if they would at least attribute the >info to the MLE list, but then they might also see this list as an competition >of informational sources. Again, this I don't mind nearly as much as But even when a newspaper or television station takes articles/footage from other papers or stations, they credit it. Deb wrote: >Deb, hoping she can't get a warning for being ROFL about Jen's >facts-from-butt comment :-D Oh hell, she may as well just issue a mass one to the whole list and get it over with. Patty Kolakowski wrote: >The way artists jump from record company to record company, I I would hope they do it because their contract has expired and not been renewed (or at least not to their satisfaction) or because they've been let go. I don't have much respect for people who break contracts without a legitimate reason. Bonnie "If you have to be handcuffed to somebody, Pierce Brosnan is a pretty good choice." (Michelle Yeoh) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 05:34:39 PST From: "James Mapp" Subject: *etheridge* Time for a new SOTW Martina suggested the last SOTW; allow me to suggest the next, in case anyone's interested in discussing the music of a certain sultry-voiced female singer. How about "It's For You?" "Nil Illegitimi Carborundum" James ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:09:52 -0500 (EST) From: roger zender Subject: *etheridge* ME Shirt Order Form Hey everyone, A little while back, someone (I forgot who) posted a form for ordering the T-shirt/Bowling Shirt/Henley etc. Well, since i'm on digest and reading from a crappy e-mail program, I asked that person to mail me one privately because I couldn't get it from the digest with any ease to print out. Well, I never heard a response, so I was wondering if anyone out there could mail me the order form, i'm REALLY interested in getting a shirt. I was so pleased to see that T-shirts were added to the list. Thanks a bunch, Roger - - "If, when you look into your own heart, you find nothing wrong there, what is there to worry about. What is there to fear?" - Confucious ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:10:29 -0500 (EST) From: roger zender Subject: *etheridge* Thanks for the Form!! Hey everyone, THANKS!! In a matter of an hour or so, i've gotten 3 forms. YOU ROCK! Now I just have to get it filled out and sent express mail to make sure I get it there on time. Thanks again! Roger - - "If, when you look into your own heart, you find nothing wrong there, what is there to worry about. What is there to fear?" - Confucious ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:46:57 +0000 From: "Tricia" Subject: Re: *etheridge* Time for a new SOTW On 12 Feb 98 at 5:34, James Mapp wrote: >How about "It's For You?" I must take part in this SOTW! IFY was one of the songs that just played when I listened to NE. Not that I disliked it (can't say that I dislike much of what *the* lady sings!). That was how I listened to IFY until today. I read this message and was amazed since my son just asked me for the music for this song because he wanted to use it to audition for RENT. So I listened again, carefully, wondering what my son saw in the song that made him want to use it for an audition. It a wonderful song but I can't put any special meaning to it except that it is my son's audition song and I will continue to listen and wonder why?! PS Jim sorry for sending this to you privately. Tricia tbird@netinc.ca http://home.netinc.ca/~tbird .. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:17:58 EST From: JLUCKY7@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Odd "Facts"/Band Members In a message dated 98-02-12 07:35:05 EST, Bonnie writes: > She claimed it was an editorial decision made by > McGill, the publishing company for which Dave and Glenna work. Hmmmm, that's odd since the publisher is ECW. <<(Stay with me, it gets better)>> I find it impossible to stay with her logic, but there's no way it's better than Ellen DeGeneres on drugs. And it can't top moving trees on ski slopes, planted by members of the CIA to dispense with certain members of Congress or their relatives. ;-) Obligatory MEC: if MLE is recording an album nowadays, I wonder who will play drums and bass? Dave Beyer is gone; will Kenny Aronoff play drums on the CD? Mark Browne is touring with Paula Cole; who will play bass if he is still touring? (a pipe dream: Kevin and Fritz will return.) I imagine John Shanks is still around. Joyce ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:25:02 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* MEIN - 02/12/98 update MEIN has updated their "news" section to state that MLE is working on the new album (ok, we knew that), but the album's release date is scheduled for february 1999. cool! check out MEIN's news section at http://fanasylum.com/melissa/main.html. *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:06:25 -0700 From: betasurely@lesbois.com Subject: *etheridge* YAY! rhondda Thank you rhondda, you are so good to us! -marcy - -- "Life is full of wonder, love is never wrong." M.L. Etheridge http://www.lesbois.com/betasurely ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:17:55 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* reposting part VII (NMLEC) well, i might as well throw my own two cents into the pot while we're at it... Deb wrote: > Rather, I strenuously (that's "really, really" for Sue's list > members) object to people forwarding my posts without attribution > ("credit"), making it appear to be that person's effort. A member > of Sue's list notified me months ago that Sue had done that to a > post of mine here, and I asked her to refrain from that practice > in the future. this most recent instance of allison's and my post being forwarded to sue's list isn't the first time (nor probably the last, regretfully) that this has happened to me. this time was certainly the more egregious of the two, though, since our words were posted without attribution and made to look as if they were someone else's hard work. last year, my post about MLE's house of blues interview was forwarded to sue by someone on the info-only list. sue subsequently forwarded my post to her list without my permission. like deb, i found out about it from a member of sue's list. my main beef at the time, besides the fact that my work was being bandied about willy-nilly on the teeny-bopper etheridge list, was that not only was my transcription of MLE's interview forwarded, but my extraneous introductory commentary, my name, and my email address were also forwarded. it appeared to be a violation of netiquette, IMO. it would have been *very* easy for either the original forwarder or sue herself (no comment ) to ask allison and me for permission to pass on the info to her list. we *might* even have agreed that they post only the interview portion and not the extra stuff, if only they had asked us first. because of sue's involvement, i certainly had a much harsher reaction than discovering that my posts have been forwarded to the AOL board or that MEIN has quoted many of my posts verbatim without asking my permission or giving proper attribution. i won't spell out the reasons why i have a particularly BIG problem with sue, since i don't want jen to issue a flame warning to me , but those of you who were on this list back in 1995 (or even on the "ellen" list recently) can probably completely understand why this bugs me so. then, there's the whole issue of it being a violation of my copyright to have my posts being forwarded to other public forums without my consent, but i really don't have time to open up *that* barrel of worms right now. deb wrote: > Deb, hoping she can't get a warning for being ROFL about Jen's > facts-from-butt comment :-D gosh, if that were true, then a good portion of this list would either get flame warnings or be suspended. ;-) (i.e. i laughed, too!) jen said: > So...if I come get your CD player and take it to my house it's > ok as long as I put a sign on the wall over it that reads, "Edgy's > Boom Box," and has an arrow pointing down? :-) j/k!!! not if i get to her CD player first! friends "share", right? ;-) > Sue has her own definition of many different things, and there is > no use in trying to change her mind (although it can be fun to > try!). OTOH, a person can grow old very quickly trying to explain > things to her in terms of rationality, laws and common sense. so, true! i think i've aged about 10 years over the past couple of weeks trying to reason with her. *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:54:04 -0700 From: betasurely@lesbois.com Subject: *etheridge* "Burning the carbs" Isn't it in the Jones Beach boot that Melissa says something like "ok, back to the show. Whew! We gotta do that every now and then, y'know burn the carbs..."? Well...I was in quoted in the newspaper today, quoting Melissa, tho they did not give her credit. My friend Karen and I were walking on the Greenbelt the other day, and a photographer stopped us and said he had taken our photo, asked us for our names, and what we were doing. I said..."Burning the carbs!" (Also told him I recognized him: Pete Zimowsky). Today, the quote, and a big photo of us. Hee, hee. - -marcy - -- "Life is full of wonder, love is never wrong." M.L. Etheridge http://www.lesbois.com/betasurely ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 21:15:48 -0700 (MST) From: Vivian Choh Subject: Re: *etheridge* reposting (NMEC) just when you thought the ruckus had died down (and i know that i probably shouldn't be adding fuel and fanning the flames, but i'm curious.. ) that post that we all(?) got re: some concert somewhere... i got hit three times (beat ya rhondda! and BTW do i win anything for that? 8^) ), once from an address i have since been unsubscribed from. moreover, I have never exchanged personal e-mail with the person who posted the concert listings, which suggests that my e-mail addresses were obtained from posts to this list. here's my question: does this mean that someone actually took/takes the time to sift through all this list's mail and compiled/s the addresses of people who've posted? (Wow! if so. william shatner's famous line on saturday night live from waaaaay back comes to mind...) re: posting without the attributions: here are my thoughts on the matter (not to be construed as "i think you should all feel this way" etc. etc. ;-) ) i'm a little bit disturbed by this, mostly in principle. i always think that it's better to cite your references mainly because i like blaming things on other people ;-). what better way to cover one's butt than to write upfront that this is what someone else thinks/said/wrote and that if it's wrong, heck, it wasn't MY statement...? seriously, though...academically, of course, plagiarism is teeee-rouble. I would take exception to people taking my work and presenting it as their own. it triggers all those legal concerns such as academic property and all that other wonderful stuff that i know diddley-squat about (please remember that i'm not a lawyer!!). i therefore think that it's a good idea to get in the habit of quoting one's sources not only so that one doesn't get into trouble, but mostly because one ought to give credit where credit due. I do however believe that a citation doesn't always have to be so formal in this particular forum. if it's from an individual on this list, i think "so and so said" is the way to go, also because it's easier. from a source outside the list "got this from the so-and-so list" is ok with me and in fact, i think that i might prefer keeping which list exactly anonymous for reasons below. posting here and the consequences: i don't think that i take exception to someone taking my message and cross-posting to all the lists he/she is on, mainly because i know that what i post here is available to anybody with access to the internet. what we post here gets archived and anyone who knows how to access the www will be able to read this message. so be it. that's why i try be careful about what i post. this is the "risk" that i knowingly take whenever i post here. this is the implicit risk that everyone here on this list takes. it's not the information itself that's exclusive (if it were, it really has no business being broadcasted to a whole mailing list has it?) but rather whose idea/work it was. because the group here is somewhat small, we can and should readily acknowledge what was said by whom when replying back. I feel differently, however, about quoting sources outside of our little group. even in daily conversation with others, if referring to someone that the person i'm talking to doesn't know, i'll say, "i have a friend who...", "i know someone who...". i don't know how other people feel about having their names thrown up in the spotlights, so i tend to try to keep outside sources a bit anonymous but at the same time i wouldn't want to take the credit for having said something that i didn't. i suppose that what i like to do is a compromise in a way. that's why i might say, "got this from the so-and-so list". the info (if it's an archived, freely accessible list) is therefore available for anyone who is willing to dig up the info. is this wrong? i don't know. i only know that it's the best (and quickest - i'll admit there are proper ways to handle this, but they wouldn't be the most efficient) compromise that i can think of; i'd certainly be willing to hear/read any suggestions for a better compromise. as for whether what i post here to another list ought to be attributed, i remain undecided (or perhaps i don't really care?). on the one hand, i don't feel the need for people other than you lot to know my name and e-mail address. on the other hand, in rhondda's and allison's cases with m.e.i.n., i think contacting and crediting (sp?) rhondda and allison would have and should have been the proper procedure, mainly because m.e.i.n. is an organisation that is supposed to be official and is making its reputation as a provider of information. they didn't dig up the info from their inside, exclusive sources and therefore should have stated so. i don't remember if m.e.i.n. is a profit organisation or not (i tend to think that it is from the amount of money that they appear to request, implied in your statements here on this list), but if it is, omission of the appropriate credits is even more offensive. ultimately, i think it boils down to what one builds one's reputation on. it's important to me that the work i do here (academically, at the university) is not misrepresented because i'll need that for the future, but if i get mis-quoted or someone misses a credit here or there on this list, i'm not gonna get too upset, as long as it was not deliberate (and how do you determine that? i can hear you all asking - i don't know) and not by people who would personally gain by NOT crediting me here. viv (who is quite aghast at having taken so long to type up what she thought were just a few thoughts and who is determined to remember next time, just how crappily she types...) Vivian Choh 'Is it better to have words left unsaid bi189@torfree.net than to have words misunderstood?' vchoh@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca -- from "Pale Sun", Cowboy Junkies http://quark.uwaterloo.ca/~vchoh/ ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 01:28:41 -0700 From: edgy@linkline.com (Allison Fraiberg) Subject: *etheridge* boom boxes, IFY, tag-you're-it At 3:03 PM 2/11/98, Jenniffer Smith wrote: >So...if I come get your CD player and take it to my house it's ok as long as >I put a sign on the wall over it that reads, "Edgy's Boom Box," and has an >arrow pointing down? Hmmmm, now that I think about it, I lost my CD player to the ex-girlfriend...gee, I wonder if she's giving attribution, or is that retribution? "It's For You": I remember Melissa saying she didn't do that song live because it seemed too expected, what with it being a song about audiences and all. Has anyone seen her do this song live? Allison edgy@linkline.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody does it better than like I do!" - S"DJ"P (It's art) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #364 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #365 Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 3:41 AM etheridge-digest Saturday, February 14 1998 Volume 01 : Number 365 *etheridge* etheridge-digest V1 #364 -Reply [Colleen Lanthrip ] *etheridge* MLE - Rolling Stone's "covers tour" (update) [Rhondda Ashby <] *etheridge* Re: MLE in 30th anniversary of "Sesame Street" photo op for Vanity Fair [Rhondda Ashby ] *etheridge* MLE in 30th anniversary of "Sesame Street" photo op for Vanity Fair [Rhondda Ashby ] Re: *etheridge* Theresa`s Tattoo? [ThundrRdBk@aol.com] *etheridge* MLE Mention on Rosie [JLUCKY7@aol.com] *etheridge* IFY, "guitar girl", spam, viv, john shanks [Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #364 Joyce wrote: >> She claimed it was an editorial decision made by >> McGill, the publishing company for which Dave and Glenna work. >Hmmmm, that's odd since the publisher is ECW. Not to worry, Sue was informed of her error. >I find it impossible to stay with her logic, but there's no way it's better >than Ellen DeGeneres on drugs. And it can't top moving trees on ski slopes, >planted by members of the CIA to dispense with certain members of Congress or >their relatives. ;-) All excellent examples but she really does manage to outdo herself with ludicrous statements on a regular basis. >Obligatory MEC: if MLE is recording an album nowadays, I wonder who will play >drums and bass? Dave Beyer is gone; will Kenny Aronoff play drums on the CD? If John Fogerty's tour is done or he has days off. Or phone in his part. >Mark Browne is touring with Paula Cole; who will play bass if he is >still touring? Days off. Phone in the part. It's been done. >it would have been *very* easy for either the original forwarder or >sue herself (no comment ) to ask allison and me for permission to Not likely as Sue finds it extremely difficult to do the right thing. Particularly if it would prove her wrong. Several months ago she came up with the ludicrous story that Patsy Cline died a few days before k.d. lang was born (in actuality she died a year and a half after) in a place close to Vancouver. When she was informed that Tennessee (offhand I don't know where in TN the plane crashed) is nowhere near Vancouver and she could verify it by looking at a map, she refused but kept insisting it was the truth. betasurely@lesbois.com wrote: >back to the show. Whew! We gotta do that every now and then, y'know burn >the carbs..."? >Well...I was in quoted in the newspaper today, quoting Melissa, tho they >did not give her credit. Did you say that you were quoting her? And do you honestly think that she's the first and only person to have ever said that? Vivian Choh wrote: >that post that we all(?) got re: some concert somewhere... >i got hit three times Only once but there is an address or 2 I haven't checked recently. I have received 2 messages from somebody who wrote that he'll respond to my comments about his web page soon. Funny thing, I'd never been to his web page until *after* the 2nd message. > here's my question: does this mean that >someone actually took/takes the time to sift through all this list's mail >and compiled/s the addresses of people who've posted? There's probably a program that can do that. >(Wow! if so. william >shatner's famous line on saturday night live from waaaaay back comes to mind...) Then again, we can never be reminded of this too often. BTW, he's doing an online chat on startrek.com on Feb. 23 (9 est, I think). >i'm a little bit disturbed by this, mostly in principle. i always think >that it's better to cite your references mainly because i like blaming >things on other people ;-). Which is what Sue always does when she realizes *she* is wrong. However, for correct info, she probably wants to take the credit. >i don't think that i take exception to someone taking my message and >cross-posting to all the lists he/she is on, mainly because i know that >what i post here is available to anybody with access to the internet. >what we post here gets archived and anyone who knows how to access the www >will be able to read this message. The person has to have access and the time and interest in searching the archived material. That's different and more difficult than somebody crossposting it to another list. >viv (who is quite aghast at having taken so long to type up what she >thought were just a few thoughts and who is determined to remember next >time, just how crappily she types...) Work on your typing and post more often. You are missed. Allison Fraiberg asked: >"It's For You": I remember Melissa saying she didn't do that song live >because it seemed too expected, what with it being a song about audiences >and all. Has anyone seen her do this song live? I think that, unlike Sue's mystery version of "Like the Way I Do" , Melissa has performed it and it's on a bootleg somewhere ("Chicago Nights", I believe). >"Nobody does it better than like I do!" - S"DJ"P (It's art) Ha! Bonnie "If you have to be handcuffed to somebody, Pierce Brosnan is a pretty good choice." (Michelle Yeoh) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:06:50 EST From: RinER2001@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #363 hello all! okay i know that this has nothing to do about all the posting that everyones been talking about but i was really wondering if anyone knows when our fair lady ms. etheridge will be coming out with a new CD??? dont you think that its about due? if anyone has any info. let us all know. hope you all have/had a great valentines day! @---->----- Erin ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:50:17 -0700 From: edgy@linkline.com (Allison Fraiberg) Subject: *etheridge* new album At 8:06 AM 2/13/98, RinER2001@aol.com wrote: >i was really wondering if anyone knows when our fair >lady ms. etheridge will be coming out with a new CD??? Rhondda stated yesterday that MEIN updated their page and shows that the new album is due out February 1999. Allison edgy@linkline.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Come to my cabinet" - SP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 12:22:46 EST From: SisSookie@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Joyce and the Band Hi Everyone! I felt it necessary to pop my head up and reply. Joyce Wrote: >>>>"Obligatory MEC: if MLE is recording an album nowadays, I wonder who will play drums and bass? Dave Beyer is gone; will Kenny Aronoff play drums on the CD? Mark Browne is touring with Paula Cole; who will play bass if he is still touring? (a pipe dream: Kevin and Fritz will return.) I imagine John Shanks is still around."<<<< Now Joyce.. this is a VERY good question. Who is recording with Melissa. Perhaps she is just doing ground work and shaping up songs she has for the CD. Also, While I can appreciate the work that Kevin and Fritz did for Melissa, I don't think that it was a bad thing that they are gone. It seems to me that with every personnel change Melissa makes, she tends to add stronger musicians to the fold. (Now I know many of you don't really like John, but he is musically superior to Bernie Larson.) I pose this question to you all: Who would make Melissa's band your dream band? Spreadin' the Peace kathleen ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:56:27 EST From: Chris2Wood@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #364 Hello to Everyone on this list, I wanted to let everyone know that I was the one that copied and posted your articles on the Melissa Etheridge Board. I have been reading what everyone had to say on this particular matter. I want to let you all know, I meant no harm. Pauline and I are New to this List and New Melissa Etheridge fans. We were so excited about all the new info everyone had on Melissa Etheridge, we love her music so much. It was like you all were the teachers and Pauline and my self were the students. Whatever you all had to say we wanted to share it with others that are new listeners as well. Pauline and I have learned so much from this list about Melissa and her Music. I hope that everyone here accepts my apology, I never posted as if it was my post, I thought I always told them it was from the Melissa Etheridge Digest, but if I fail to do that, again accept my apologies. From now own I will ask the person if it is okay if I post it on the Melissa Etheridge Board. I am very sorry we started all this Ruckus, and did not think anyone would mind if their names were posted as well. I just thought this list was a public list and everyone read it. I was wrong again. Rhonda, Joyce, Tim, Martina and others that are on this list, if I posted any of your material, I promise I will not do it again with out anyone's PERMISSION. Thanks for Listening Sincerely Christine aka Chris2Wood ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 20:15:21 +0100 From: Creve Subject: *etheridge* RE: the band Kathleen wrote: <>=20 I do agree. Maybe it was never really explained or I missed it, but what = is it that's actually not *good* about Shanks as a musician??? I'd = really like to know!!! John Shanks has got my undying attention since I = first listened to Royal Station 4/16 on the "Montreal Live '94" album! = I think he and Melissa complement each other perfectly!! And regarding = that particular song...whewwww I think it's simply GREAT (and sexy!!) = the way they play with each other!!=20 << I pose this question to you all: Who would make Melissa's band your = dream band?>>=20 I have never even thought about a *dream band*. To me it has always been = "Melissa Etheridge" and not "Melissa Etheridge Band". Of course I want = her to play with great musicians, but I think she is pretty dominant as = a musician and I would hate it if that would change. She's not the *girl = in the band* who kinda sings a little bit and strums on her acoustic = guitar once in a while!! It's about her!!! So I don't want her to play = with some sort of Jimi Hendrix guy. I guess that wouldn't work. I like = all of the guys as musicians who play with her and together and with = Melissa in the lead they're just fantastic!!! I am not saying that I = don't care who her musicians are, I am saying she's got the perfect = ones!! Martina ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:34:13 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* MLE - Rolling Stone's "covers tour" (update) on 01/22/98, i posted about Rolling Stone's covers tour which is visiting several colleges over the next few months, and how i speculated that possibly MLE's cover would be amongst those chosen (since only a few hundred would be included in the exhibit). i can confirm that MLE's Rolling Stone cover *is* included in the exhibit, as i managed to catch the last 10 minutes of the exhibit at UC berkeley last night. now, the covers are not originals, but rather pictures blown up on big display boards. some of covers are HUGE, but others, including MLE's, appear to be actual size. it's an OK exhibit and i'm glad i went, but don't go expecting to be blown away. also, it was cool to see some of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame memorabilia, which is travelling along with the covers' exhibit, especially considering that i probably won't make it to cleveland any time soon. here are the rest of the dates for the exhibit: University of Colorado, Feb. 18-20 Arizona State University, Feb. 24-26 University of Texas at Austin, March 3-5 Georgia Tech, March 10-12 University of Miami, March 17-19 Duke University, March 31-April 2 George Washington University, April 7-9 University of Pittsburgh, April 13-15 University of Maryland, April 21-23 Penn State, April 28-30 Northeastern University, May 4-6 Ohio State University, May 12-14 University of Minnesota, May 19-21 University of Washington, May 26-28; and UC San Diego, June 1-3. *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:48:42 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* Re: MLE in 30th anniversary of "Sesame Street" photo op for Vanity Fair i think this post got lost in cyberspace limbo, so i'm resending it...my apologies if it's duplicated. :-) http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/entertainment/story.html?s=n/reuters/980213/entertainment/stories/people_archerd_13.html Friday February 13 8:08 AM EST ARCHERD: Cher, CBS Plan Tribute To Sonny By Army Archerd, Daily Variety Senior Columnist - - snip - Stage 19 at WB was the setting Wednesday for an all-star cast: Rosie O'Donnell, Tracey Ullman, Mike Myers, Ray Charles, Noah Wyle, Dennis Franz, Jeff Goldblum, Melissa Etheridge, the Cookie Monster, Oscar, Elmo and 15 Muppets. It was all for a shoot by photographer Timothy Greenfield-Sanders to celebrate the 30th anniversary of "Sesame Street," which will appear in a fall Vanity Fair issue. *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:09:22 EDT From: "Jane Vaughn" Subject: *etheridge* NMEC As Valentines Day crashes down on our heads once again. I just want to send out warm wishes to those of you who have found one another in the night and no longer walk alone. Love one another as if this were your last day of loving. Trust one another as if your lives depended on it. And stay strong when the current flows against you. Take time to love and show those you do that they are special. It only takes a moment to place a smooth stone into the pallm of the one you loves hand and say: I love you. So put on Melissa's music and let the passion fill you r hearts and always "Keep It Precious" Play with those furry friends and enjoy those sloppy wet kisses. I know I will! Much Warmth, pooh Vaughn@oumail1.email.ohiou.edu ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 11:21:30 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* MLE in 30th anniversary of "Sesame Street" photo op for Vanity Fair http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/entertainment/story.html?s=n/reuters/980213/entertainment/stories/people_archerd_13.html Friday February 13 8:08 AM EST ARCHERD: Cher, CBS Plan Tribute To Sonny By Army Archerd, Daily Variety Senior Columnist - - snip - Stage 19 at WB was the setting Wednesday for an all-star cast: Rosie O'Donnell, Tracey Ullman, Mike Myers, Ray Charles, Noah Wyle, Dennis Franz, Jeff Goldblum, Melissa Etheridge, the Cookie Monster, Oscar, Elmo and 15 Muppets. It was all for a shoot by photographer Timothy Greenfield-Sanders to celebrate the 30th anniversary of "Sesame Street," which will appear in a fall Vanity Fair issue. *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:15:41 -0700 From: edgy@linkline.com (Allison Fraiberg) Subject: *etheridge* Cypheridges mentioned on Rosie On today's show, Rosie spoke about the photoshoot for the Sesame Street 30th anniversary and mentioned that Melissa had been there as well. She then segued into talking about how Melissa, Julie, and baby had come over to her house for dinner. Apprently, Parker went up to Bailey and said hi to "sweetie girl" as he called her. Allison edgy@linkline.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 22:51:59 +0100 From: "anken" Subject: *etheridge* Theresa`s Tattoo? " Hello,hello..." Nope.Its not Romeo,unfortunately. Just Mic,who has been surfing and finally stumbled over something she`s never ever heard of...but she has no doubts thats ol` stuff to you and then she don`t wants to annoy...(sic) Nevertheless trusting in your kindness...so: Whats this movie "theresa`s tattoo" by Julie,starring MLE, about?Year of release?Full-lenght movie?Available on video? Ignorant but risk-taking, Yours, Mic. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:30:55 EST From: ThundrRdBk@aol.com Subject: Re: *etheridge* Theresa`s Tattoo? The movie Theresa'sTattoo is a "comedy of errors". Featuring cameos by Melissa, k.d.lang, and staring Lou Diamond Phillips. It is directed bu Julie. It contains original songs by Melissa. It is a silly/funny kinda movie about mistaken identitiy. It is a must see for all Melissa fans =0) Pam...Thunder Road Books, Videos, CDs ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:14:18 EST From: JLUCKY7@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* MLE Mention on Rosie Hello, hello.... For whoever didn't see Rosie O'Donnell's show today (she's broadcasting from Burbank right now), Rosie made mention of Melissa and Julie. They apparently visited Rosie the other night and brought little Bailey along with them. Rosie's son, Parker, walked up to Bailey and said, "Hi, Sweetiegirl!" This gave Rosie a big kick because she always calls Parker "Sweetieboy." Rosie also mentioned the all-star 30th anniversary of Sesame Street thingy that Rhondda posted about this morning and she confirmed that Melissa Etheridge was there, among many other celebrities. Th--th--that's all folks, Joyce ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 19:46:48 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* IFY, "guitar girl", spam, viv, john shanks Allison Fraiberg asked: > "It's For You": I remember Melissa saying she didn't do that song > live because it seemed too expected, what with it being a song > about audiences and all. Has anyone seen her do this song live? and then "Bonnie Phillips" said: > I think that, unlike Sue's mystery version of "Like the Way I Do" > , Melissa has performed it and it's on a bootleg somewhere > ("Chicago Nights", I believe). yup! it's on "chicago nights". [psst! edgy! ask the old ball and chain to roll the chicago show for you - that's where i got my copy. ] and then bonnie said: >>> She claimed it was an editorial decision made by >>> McGill, the publishing company for which Dave and Glenna work. >>Hmmmm, that's odd since the publisher is ECW. > > Not to worry, Sue was informed of her error. yes, but did she believe it? or did she blame the media for her error? ;-) > I have received 2 messages from somebody who wrote that he'll > respond to my comments about his web page soon. Funny thing, > I'd never been to his web page until *after* the 2nd message. i got that one, too! but i think i had visited his page which makes it all the more spooky about how he figured out my email address from my visit.... my favorite type of spam (uh huh) is when you reply to the message telling them in no uncertain terms to remove your address from their mailing list, and it comes back with a "mail returned / no such address message". sneaky b*stards! i second bonnie's statement - i missed you, too, viv! Creve wrote in response to Kathleen (was it just me or did no one else receive kathleen's message? i didn't get it at any of mail accounts...hmm): > I do agree. Maybe it was never really explained or I missed it, > but what is it that's actually not *good* about Shanks as a > musician??? I'd really like to know!!! i think that many people don't like john shanks (i'm not included in this bunch, btw) because of what deb calls his Guitar Noodling . i've also heard people on this list and at shows state that they don't like what he's done to MLE's music, he's a showboat, he's arrogant, he's a jerk, and so on and so on. personally, i've always liked john's playing, and his smoking solo during RS 4/16 on the "bonsoir montreal" boot curls my eyelashes! jib and i talked to john (and kenny) *very* briefly after the 12/19/96 leno show taping in the NBC parking lot, and he seemed like a nice enough fellow. MLE and john seemed to have such a *connection* onstage during the YLS shows that we saw on the YCSWID tour - he either means very much to her, or MLE's a much better actor than i thought. ;-) *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 01:21:03 -0700 (MST) From: "Renee Sweeney" Subject: RE: *etheridge* reposting part VII (NMLEC) Ms. Rhondda said (in part): **...my main beef at the time, besides the fact that my work was being **bandied about willy-nilly on the teeny-bopper etheridge list, was... Can I just ask a stupid question? Why is there a "teeny-bopper etheridge list" in the first place? I don't get it- why doesn't everyone just come here? Sorry if I'm being dense and have really missed the obvious answer (that's been known to happen, but not too much- ha!) Anyway, just wondering... Wishing everyone who celebrates a terrific Valentine's Day, especially my special Valentine in Houston- I love you Jilly! Renee' (in Dallas, who wishes MLE's album release date was just a *little* sooner than Feb. 99- waaaahhhh!!!!) Renee' Sweeney Regional Service Delivery-Richardson Project Management ESN - 444-2123 (Outside - 972-684-2123) ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 01:57:08 -0700 (MST) From: SilntLgacy@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Fwd: MELISTERS Shirt Order Form The deadline is fast approaching!!!!! I wil be placing the order with the vendors on FEB 20th..so be sure to get your orders in the mail!! Any questions..or if you mail an order you feel may not get to me in time PLEASE email me! Thanks so much! Betsy To all who are interested in ordering shirts, the following procedure will be used: 1) Print this form (if you do not have a printer, copy exact info). 2) Complete form IN FULL. Missing info will only delay your order, as correct orders will be processed first. 3) Add total of shirts,tax and postage. (Postage is $3.00 for 1-4 shirts, $4.50 for 5 or more) 4) Send COMPLETED FORM and MONEY ORDER ONLY made out to MARY FIEDORCZYK to address below. Amount must be paid in full. (US Funds) 5) Last day to order is February 14th. Order will be placed with vendors on February 20th. MELISTERS SHIRTS Name:________________________________________________ Address:_____________________________________________ City:_________________________________________________ State :________________________________________________ EMail:________________________________________________ Please enter my order for MELISTERS Shirts (purple with gold lettering) in the styles and unisex sizes indicated. ( If you are uncertain of size, please order larger as there are no returns.) PURPLE BOWLING SHIRT WITH GOLD TRIM (50/50 Cotton-Polytwill) ______ Small @ $32.50 each Total$________ ______ Medium @ $32.50 each Total$________ ______ Large @ $32.50 each Total$________ ______XLarge @ $32.50 each Total$________ ______XXLarge @ $36.50 each Total$________ ______XXXLarge@ $39.50 each Total$________ PURPLE GOLF (POLO) SHIRTS (50/50) ______Small @ $23.00 each Total$_________ ______Medium @ $23.00 each Total$_________ ______Large @ $23.00 each Total$_________ ______XLarge @ $23.00 each Total$_________ ______XXLarge @ $26.00 each Total$_________ ______XXXLarge @$28.00 each Total$_________ PURPLE BUTTON DOWN BASEBALL SHIRTS (50/50) _____Small @ $29.00 each Total$_________ _____Meduim @$29.00 each Total$________ _____Large @ $29.00 each Total$_________ _____XLarge @ $29.00 each Total$_________ _____XXLarge @ $31.50each Total$_________ SORRY.......XXXL IS NOT AVAILABLE IN THIS STYLE PURPLE TWO BOTTON HENLEY (50/50) _____Smalll@ $23.00 each Total$__________ _____Medium@ $23.00 each Total$__________ _____Large@ $23.00 each Total$__________ ____ XL@ $23.00 each Total$__________ _____XXL@ $27.00 each Total$__________ _____XXXL@ $33.00 each Total$__________ PURPLE T-SHIRT (Heavyweight 50/50) _____Small@ $13.00each Total$_________ _____Meduim@ $13.00 each Total$__________ _____Large@ $13.00 each Total$__________ _____XL @ $13.00 each Total$__________ _____XXL @ $15.00each Total$__________ _____XXXL @ $17.00 each Total$__________ ______ Total Shirts Shirt Total $__________ ______Rainbow Flag Embroidered Iron On Patches @ $4.45each Total$________ 5.5% Ohio Sales Tax$________ Postage$_______ Ord er Total Enclosed$_______ MAIL TO: MARY E. (BETSY) FIEDORCZYK PO BOX 333 NEW MIDDLETOWN, OHIO 44442 For questions EMail: Silntlgacy@AOL.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #365 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #366 Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 3:33 AM etheridge-digest Sunday, February 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 366 *etheridge* woodwork and spam ["Bonnie Phillips" ] *etheridge* mle as part of joke on radio [Vivian Choh ] *etheridge* Melissa Song [bigdave20@juno.com (David L LaFountain)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 05:21:02 PST From: "Bonnie Phillips" Subject: *etheridge* woodwork and spam Allison wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >"Come to my cabinet" - SP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ha! Over on alt.showbiz.gossip (which I haven't read in months, honest), when a celebrity dies, it's stated that s/he is in the "stereo cabinet". I don't know the origin of the phrase but that's what your "quote" reminded me of. >> Not to worry, Sue was informed of her error. >yes, but did she believe it? or did she blame the media for her >error? ;-) Basically. Her response was "that was what I was told". Now why she believes an unnamed source (and most of her sources are unnamed) rather than people who know the truth (personally I think somebody who went to McGill would know that it's a university and not a publishing company but hey, that's just me) is beyond me (but then again so are most things related to her). >i got that one, too! but i think i had visited his page which makes >it all the more spooky about how he figured out my email address >from my visit.... There must be a way. I was on asylum.com last night for the Dustin Hoffman chat and although I didn't "sign in", my name popped up on the list of people who were in the chat room. >my favorite type of spam (uh huh) is when you reply to the >message telling them in no uncertain terms to remove your address Bad rhondda! Never do that! I know the temptation (and I've done it) but if you reply the scum at the other end knows s/he's hit a live address and will just sell it to the next spammer that comes along. Always write to the postmaster or abuse address. It feels really good when you get a response that the person has had their account terminated. Renee Sweeney asked: >Why is there a "teeny-bopper etheridge list" in the first place? I >don't get it- why doesn't everyone just come here? A lot of subjects have more than one list. However, in this case, we're dealing with an egomaniacal person who many on this list didn't like and who didn't like certain people here. She started her own list to get away from them and where she thought she would get respect. The only way to do that was to have the list mostly for young people (although everybody is supposedly accepted - depends on her whim, if she doesn't like your name or address, she won't subscribe you) who have no idea how stupid she is and she can set herself up as the knowledgeable Melissa expert that she isn't. (Woe be to anybody who has the audacity to disagree with her and point out that her facts are incorrect). She claims that her list is "a tribute to Melissa". Bonnie "If you have to be handcuffed to somebody, Pierce Brosnan is a pretty good choice." (Michelle Yeoh) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:02:29 -0500 (EST) From: Vivian Choh Subject: *etheridge* mle as part of joke on radio hey folks, me again making quick appearance.. thanks bonnie and rhondda for missing me BTW. haven't been participating much mostly because 1) haven't got too much extra time on my hands and 2) don't usu. have much to relate until i get back to toronto (since nothing really exciting happens in waterloo). heard the following tidbit on the way into t.o.; don't know if the WHOLE thing was a joke or only the last part.. (extremely loosely paraphrased from 99.9 ckfm): "jodie foster is 10 weeks pregnant. no word yet on the identity of the father. rumours are that melissa etheridge is the father" later, 'gators! viv Vivian Choh 'Is it better to have words left unsaid bi189@torfree.net than to have words misunderstood?' vchoh@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca -- from "Pale Sun", Cowboy Junkies http://quark.uwaterloo.ca/~vchoh/ ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:30:40 EST From: MESECRETS@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* band things Hello all, I came out of delurking to see if anyone could answer me two questions. BTW, HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY TO EVERYONE :) AND HOPING EVERYONE'S DAY IS FILLED WITH LOTS OF LOVE! Here go the questions: 1. Why hasn't Melissa every had any female musicians in her band (not being prejudiced, just curious). 2. Since Melissa has mentioned Joan Armatrading several times and even remarked that "she has never gotten her dues" (or something very close to that line), why did she not include her in duets? Maybe I think about silly things, but these two issues have always bothered me............michelle ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:36:36 +0000 From: "Tricia" Subject: *etheridge* Mailing list members pages.... Good evening all... Since things are on the slow side (both on the list and for me at home) I thought it was time to put a call out for anyone who is not and would like to be listed on the MLE Mailing list members homepages page on my site. To check to see if you are already listed see - http://home.netinc.ca/~tbird/melist.htm If you like to be listed send me your page address and I'll include it on the next update. Hoping you all are enjoying your weekend. Tricia tbird@netinc.ca http://home.netinc.ca/~tbird .. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:45:42 -0500 From: bigdave20@juno.com (David L LaFountain) Subject: *etheridge* Melissa Song I was listening to the radio and they played a song by Melissa called The Weakness in Me. I have never heard this song before and could not find it on any of her CD's. If anyone can tell me about this song, please do. Thank you David LaFountain _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #366 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #367 Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 4:07 AM etheridge-digest Monday, February 16 1998 Volume 01 : Number 367 *etheridge* answers ["Bonnie Phillips" ] *etheridge* MLE Gossip... [Satsanga ] *etheridge* re: Female musicians in MLE's band [mlebl@infonet.ca (Mary L] *etheridge* Female band member, Joan Armatrading, TWIM ["Amy Partrick" Subject: *etheridge* answers Vivian Choh wrote: >thanks bonnie and rhondda for missing me BTW. You're welcome. >haven't been participating >don't usu. have much to relate until i get back to toronto This doesn't stop others from participating. :-) >way into t.o.; don't know if the WHOLE thing was a joke or only the last >part.. >(extremely loosely paraphrased from 99.9 ckfm): >"jodie foster is 10 weeks pregnant. no word yet on the identity of the >father. rumours are that melissa etheridge is the father" I read somewhere online that Foster is pregnant. It was probably a newsgroup or Cybersleaze. Not exactly the most reliable of sources. MESECRETS@aol.com asked: >1. Why hasn't Melissa every had any female musicians in her band (not being > prejudiced, just curious). There was a female keyboards player during the first part of the "Never Enough" tour. Whether it didn't work out or she had prior commitments, I don't know. >2. Since Melissa has mentioned Joan Armatrading several times and even > remarked that "she has never gotten her dues" (or something very close to > that line), why did she not include her in duets? Perhaps Armatrading was asked and didn't want to do it or wasn't available at the time. Armatrading is very much a solo artist (when she recorded at her home studio, she would give the musicians directions to her home but not the address). The only duet I know of is in a tv special where she sings with Elton John. David L LaFountain wrote: >I was listening to the radio and they played a song by Melissa called The >Weakness in Me. I have never heard this song before and could not find >it on any of her CD's. If anyone can tell me about this song, please do. It's a Joan Armatrading song from her "Walk Under Ladders" (I think) album. Melissa's done it in concert so it's on a number of bootlegs. The only (?) official version is on the "Nothing But a She Thing" compilation. Bonnie "If you have to be handcuffed to somebody, Pierce Brosnan is a pretty good choice." (Michelle Yeoh) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 13:45:32 +0100 From: Satsanga Subject: *etheridge* MLE Gossip... Hi all, There's a rumor going round in the lowlands, that Melissa will appear at the Gay Games in Amsterdam (1-8 August). Does anybody know something about that?? BTW, who of you will to to these Gay Games? http://www.gaygames.nl/ Satsanga - -- "She found me roots of relish sweet, and honey wild, and manna dew, and sure in language strange she said - I love thee true" John Keats http://www.tip.nl/users/claudia.mulder ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:50:39 -0500 From: mlebl@infonet.ca (Mary Leblanc) Subject: *etheridge* re: Female musicians in MLE's band MESECRETS asked: Here go the questions: 1. Why hasn't Melissa every had any female musicians in her band (not being prejudiced, just curious). Michelle, she did have a female band member playing keyboards at one point... listen to the Record Plant interview.... I think her name was Susie Davis... (During the concert I thought the keyboard was too loud... I wanted to hear MLE, not the keyboard) :-) ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:18:01 +0000 From: "Amy Partrick" Subject: *etheridge* Female band member, Joan Armatrading, TWIM MESECRETS@aol.com asked > 1. Why hasn't Melissa every had any female musicians in her band > (not being prejudiced, just curious). She has. I can't remember the woman's name, but she did have a female keyboard player with her on one (or part of one) tour. > 2. Since Melissa has mentioned Joan Armatrading several times and > even remarked that "she has never gotten her dues" (or something > very close to that line), why did she not include her in duets? I know I read somewhere that Armatrading did not know who Etheridge was (several years ago, she may now), and even if she did she might not have wished to, or have had time in her schedule to, work with MLE. Now that I think about it, didn't MLE indicate that the producers suggested who she should duet with in some interview? Were this the case, JA may never have come up. bigdave20@juno.com (David L LaFountain) said: > I was listening to the radio and they played a song by Melissa > called The Weakness in Me. I have never heard this song before and > could not find it on any of her CD's. If anyone can tell me about > this song, please do. This is kinda funny, given the last message I replied to. It's a Joan Armatrading song that MLE covers. It's on at least one boot. If they were playing it on the radio, it's probably been released as part of a single or compilation - I'd be surprised if they were playing boots on the air. Call the station and ask; they should be able to tell you what it's on. amp ===========================++<>++========================= I don't know, I'm clueless! http://www.i84.net/~clueless/ ===========================++<>++========================= ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:43:45 EST From: Lovrbutt@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* funny thing > 1. Why hasn't Melissa every had any female musicians in her band > (not being prejudiced, just curious). She has. I can't remember the woman's name, but she did have a female keyboard player with her on one (or part of one) tour. Mary said that the woman's name was Susie Davis and that during the concert Susie played the keyboard to loudly, distracting from Melissa...maybe that was why she was used for only a part of one tour. Interesting........ ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:42:55 EST From: CRZY4MLE@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* John Shanks I would just like to post a response to all of those that have to seem to place upon themselves to bad mouth John Shanks. Yes, I will agree with you all on the fact that he likes to live "his moment onstage to the utmost", but wouldn't we all do the same?? He is by far one of the best touring guitarists that plays today. His music is precise and his stage presence is NOT in the least arrogant. He has played and written music for some of the greatest musicians, and if THEY had thought that he was, "a jerk", as one lister wrote, then I do not believe he would be where he is today. If you could just imagine placing yourselves in his shoes for a moment. Imagine a thousand screaming MLE fans wanting to be close to you to get closer to Melissa. It amazes me to see women whom I had thought were lesbians willing to, "give that up", for a night with him in hopes to get closer to her. If you were him, wouldn't you want to play that up too? For those of you who have never had the chance to know him, "as a person", and not as "Melissa's showboating guitar player", all I can say is that you have missed the opportunity to meet a beautiful person inside and out. He is caring, thoughtful, and is willing to take time from his personal life to meet people that are interested in meeting HIM not HER. It just goes to show that you need to know the person before you judge the person. Thanks for listening... Tina :) ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #367 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #368 Date: February 17, 1998 3:48 AM etheridge-digest Tuesday, February 17 1998 Volume 01 : Number 368 *etheridge* 7" vinyl singles [M.C.Ummelen@mel.dsm.nl] *etheridge* RE: John Shanks [MESECRETS@aol.com] *etheridge* RE: John Shanks [Jenniffer Smith ] *etheridge* RE: John Shanks [Jenniffer Smith ] Re: *etheridge* John Shanks [Tori ] *etheridge* Joan Armatrading ["S. R. Andrew Bowers" ] Re: *etheridge* 7" vinyl singles ["Tricia" ] *etheridge* live IFY and band members (Shanks) [SHARON.A.ROUW@monsanto.co] *etheridge* SOTW very very late [JLE73@aol.com] *etheridge* SOTW [cflores@sccorp.com] *etheridge* sotw--ify [Jennifer Jensen ] *etheridge* SOTW ["suz37" ] *etheridge* NMEC about FF ["Vicky Adair" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 98 14:07:12 +0100 From: M.C.Ummelen@mel.dsm.nl Subject: *etheridge* 7" vinyl singles Hello everybody, I would like to know how many en which 7" vinyl singles Melissa has released in her career. Since a month I have decided to go for the 7" vinyl singles and I have no idea how many different singles are available. I have got BMSW and Dance Without Sleeping. Are all cd-singles on vinyl also??? If I have all the songs on vinyl I will go searching for the different countries where they have been made and released. e-mail me privately please. Marcel. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:46:17 EST From: MESECRETS@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* RE: John Shanks Hello everyone ;) First off, I would like to thank everyone for their input on my two questions....these questions have been on my mind for some time. I tried to get one of the two questions approved by MEIN for the *Melissa Chat Room Adventure* but they were obviously not chosen. Maybe someday I'll get to ask MLE, but until then, I appreciate your thoughts/replies. Secondly, I love John Shanks! The connection with Melissa is obvious each time they perform. You can tell by his body language that he is a super person and that he loves music :) I must tell you that deep down inside, everyone is a bit of an actor.....and if I had his talent, I'd be showing off, too! Melissa must love him...he's been a part of her awhile now.....so, don't be so judgemental folks! We're here to have fun :)........................michelle ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:43:19 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: *etheridge* RE: John Shanks >>> 02/15/98 10:42pm >>> writes: >Yes, I will agree with you all on the fact that he likes to live "his moment >onstage to the utmost", but wouldn't we all do the same?? Perhaps...but I'm sure we'd all have our own individual reactions to the situation. >He is by far one of the best touring guitarists that plays today. Strictly a matter of opinion, of course. >He has played and written music for some of the greatest musicians, >and if THEY had thought that he was, "a jerk", as one lister wrote, Just to clarify...the lister referred to above didn't actually say that Shanks was a jerk...just that some people may have expressed that sentiment in the past. >It amazes me to see women whom I had thought were lesbians willing >to, "give that up", for a night with him in hopes to get closer to her. In the words of Kyle's mom (Southpark), "What-What-What?!" There are lesbians willing to 'spend a night' (I'm assuming you mean 'sleep with') Shanks to get closer to MLE? Is this fact or perception? >It just goes to show that you need to know the person before you judge >the person. Hold on...might I ask how long you've been on this particular list? I know that there are several people on this list who don't care for Shanks' guitar playing and they are completely justified in their dislike...and as long as they can substantiate their opinion, I'm willing to listen. The folks who don't much care for Shanks' playing have always been able to back up their reasoning and it's caused me to pay more attention to him and form a more educated opinion. Some listers, in the past, have noted that they did not care for Shanks' onstage persona. In their opinion, they've felt that Shanks played up his 'supporting role' to much and tried to garner much more attention than what he deserved as a band member. Not everyone likes MLE's style of music, so it just stands to reason that not everyone will like the way Shanks plays guitar. I honestly don't remember if anyone has ever passed serious judgment on Shanks in past discussions, but no one has stated anything but opinion in the past couple of days and that's what we're here for...to discuss our opinions of MLE and her music. Shanks is part of that music and if someone does not care for his style, they are more than welcome to state their opinion. I will agree that if someone decided that Shanks was a 'jerk' or actually made a personl judgement based upon only seeing him perform, they would only be showing their own ignorance. You speak as if you know Shanks personally...do you? Just curious... jen--crusading for peaceful debate on the net... ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:43:40 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: *etheridge* RE: John Shanks >>> 02/16/98 07:46am >>> writes: >I tried to get one of the two questions approved by MEIN for the >*Melissa Chat Room Adventure* but they were obviously not chosen. From what I heard, it was more like a Chat Room Fiasco. Hopefully, MEIN will try again someday and have the kinks ironed out. I've also heard from a few people (some of whom are on this list) who submitted questions that were looked over in favor of lesser-quality (IMO) fare. >Secondly, I love John Shanks! Lots of people do...but lots of people don't. I don't mind his playing. I'm not the guitar afficienado that some folks are, though, so my opinion of his playing is based upon a very basic knowledge of music. >You can tell by his body language that he is a super person and that he >loves music :) I don't know about being able to tell that he's a 'super person' just from seeing him perform on stage. Tina was upset at what she felt was an unfair assessment of Shanks based upon what people had seen from out in the audience. Your's is the same line of reasoning, only with a different outcome. It's easier for some to form opinions based only upon visual perception, eh? >I must tell you that deep down inside, everyone is a bit of an actor... In the opinion of some Psychology 101 profs, yes. ;-) >...and if I had his talent, I'd be showing off, too! But the fact of the matter is, it annoys some people. For some, the perceived 'show-boating' detracts from their enjoyment of MLE. I personally don't see Shanks acting any differently from lead guitarists in other bands I've seen. I take it with a grain of salt, as it's all a performance anyway. I agree that Shanks and MLE have a certain chemistry on-stage, and it obviously works for them or he wouldn't still be there. That does not mean, however, that other people are not allowed to express their dislike for his on-stage persona/guitar playing. >so, don't be so judgemental folks! We're here to have fun I know that people get really sick and tired of hearing me say this, and perhaps it's contributed to less list traffic...but I get really annoyed when people mistake the expression of opinion for the passing of judgement. We are indeed to here to 'have fun'...but this is not a 'love-in' for MLE, nor any of her band members. A difference of opinion is what leads to most of the intelligent discussion on any given topic, and if saying that one does not care for John Shanks' guitar playing constitutes a judgement on the part of that person, I hate to see what will happen when the new CD is released. Please just remember, folks, that there is a big difference between passing unfair judgement and expressing a person's opinion. jen--getting ready to go renew her driver's license... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not attracted to women, but I'd sleep with Kathie Lee [Gifford] for world peace." --Bridget Fonda ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:05:04 -0500 From: Tori Subject: Re: *etheridge* John Shanks At 10:42 PM 2/15/98 EST, CRZY4MLE@aol.com wrote: > He is by far one of the best touring guitarists >that plays today. His music is precise and his stage presence is NOT in the >least arrogant. I'm sure that there are alot of people on this list that will disagree with your opinion here. My opinion however, is that he is one of the most arrogant performers that I have ever seen. Even in the beginning on Melissa's first headling tour, when there was hardly anyone attending these shows, he acted exactly the same way, constantly showboating, that play it like it hurts style, and trying to be the center of attention (although I do think Melissa encourages his behavior). I was happy to see him replaced on that first tour as I'm sure he will be again someday. As I have said many times, I have been a fan of Melissa's from the very beginning (I heard live, the first radio show she ever did in the US) but I will NOT attended another show as long as Mr. Shanks is a member of the band. I go to see Melissa Etheridge perform, NOT the John Shanks band! (Are you listening Melissa?) - -- Tori \\ musicfan@mindspring.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:16:08 +0000 From: "S. R. Andrew Bowers" Subject: *etheridge* Joan Armatrading Hi all, Don't know how relevant it is but Joan Armatrading provided Incidental Vocals on Queen's "Don't Lose You Head". Andrew B. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:33:36 +0000 From: "Tricia" Subject: Re: *etheridge* 7" vinyl singles Hi Marcel... If you look on the Mailing List page and go to the Discography all the singles are listed and in what format they are available. The URL for the site is at the end of each mailing list message. On 16 Feb 98 at 14:07, M.C.Ummelen@mel.dsm.nl wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I would like to know how many en which 7" vinyl singles Melissa > has released in her career. Since a month I have decided to go for the 7" > vinyl singles and I have no idea how many different singles are available. > I have got BMSW and Dance Without Sleeping. Are all cd-singles on vinyl > also??? > If I have all the songs on vinyl I will go searching for the different > countries where they have been made and released. > e-mail me privately please. > > Marcel. > > > ****************************************************************** > To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: > "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format > "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format > Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ > ****************************************************************** > > Tricia tbird@netinc.ca http://home.netinc.ca/~tbird .. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 16 Feb 1998 13:06:10 -0600 From: SHARON.A.ROUW@monsanto.com Subject: *etheridge* live IFY and band members (Shanks) As for IFY: >and then "Bonnie Phillips" said: >> I think that, unlike Sue's mystery version of "Like the Way I Do" > , Melissa has performed it and it's on a bootleg somewhere > ("Chicago Nights", I believe). >yup! it's on "chicago nights". And it kicks booty! I sincerely recommend that anyone who has not heard this live find a way. It is simply fantastic. From SisSookie (Kathleen): >Also, While I can appreciate the work that Kevin and Fritz did for Melissa, I don't think that it was a bad thing that they are gone. It seems to me that with every personnel change Melissa makes, she tends to add stronger musicians to the fold. (Now I know many of you don't really like John, but he is musically superior to Bernie Larson.) There is something to be said for musical style. John is a fantastic guitar player, in the "noodling" style. ;) When I first started listening to MLE, I fell in love with John Shanks. It didn't take me long to get over it. This style of playing gets old fast (at least for me). It's great on some of MLE's stuff (nod to Rhondda's mention of Royal Station 4/16), but extremely droll on others (TWIO, among others). John is a great player, but I feel that he doesn't always fit into MLE's style overall. Or maybe he is one of the influences leading her into more pop and less rock. I don't know. I just know that when I listen to her older stuff, the whole sound is more cohesive. It makes more sense to my ears. I agree that Kenny is a better drummer--who is better than him? No one. But is Mark better than Kevin? I *really* don't think so. Mark doesn't do anything interesting, IMO. As a matter of fact, Mark is one reason I decided to pick up the bass. I figured that it wouldn't take long to be able to play something like what he plays. Heck, if he can get by with some of that crap, why couldn't anyone just pick up a bass and play? Kevin was *so* much more creative. The whole band is fitting into a formula now. From Rhondda: >MLE and john seemed to have such a *connection* onstage during the YLS shows that we saw on the YCSWID tour - he either means very much to her, or MLE's a much better actor than i thought. ;-) They are fun to watch together onstage. I have always had the impression that they were good friends. From CRZY4MLE (aka Tina): >He is caring, thoughtful, and is willing to take time from his personal life to meet people that are interested in meeting HIM not HER. It just goes to show that you need to know the person before you judge the person. I'm sure he is a great guy. But realize that we are discussing his role as a musician playing with MLE, not his personal character. Going for now, Sharon ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:06:44 EST From: JLE73@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* SOTW very very late I have been so busy with school.............here's the new sotw. I hope I can send mail. I haven't been able to for almost a month now. You Can Sleep While I Drive Jennifer Etheridge ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 18:22:53 -0400 From: cflores@sccorp.com Subject: *etheridge* SOTW To: etheridge @ esosoft.com cc: Subject: SOTW One of my favorite songs in the Brave and Crazy album. I always imagine this to be about a relationship that has become routine and happening in some small town where nothing ever changes and MLE knows that if nothing is done it might end. There is love but there is also a lot of monotony in the relationship and there is need for change. So when I listen to this I always wonder whether my relationship has gotten to that point and a change is needed or whether I missed the signs and am too late. It's like saying "I love you enough to make sure that there is a change so that you don't get bored with everything around us." I also think that this song and Nowhere To Go and "All The Way To Heaven" were born from the same deep feelings from MLE. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 20:54:03 -0700 (MST) From: Jennifer Jensen Subject: *etheridge* sotw--ify The first MLE album i ever listened to was NE. I loved the album, and I made my friend play it over and over as we drove across ohio and back. of all the songs on the album, that song stuck with me the most. he and i had one of those summer romances: the sort that is all the sweeter because you know it will never last. every time I think of him, I think of this song. He drove all the way from Toronto, Ontario to Sandusky, Ohio, just to see me. He could have been with someone else, and was with me, instead, for that short time. I know Melissa wrote the song for her fans, but I always thought it was about a one-night stand, and it seemed to fit the last weekend he and I spent together. I'll always remember him fondly for introducing me to melissa's music, and for that bittersweet romance. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:33:06 -0800 From: "suz37" Subject: *etheridge* SOTW Hi All, "You Can Sleep While I Drive" is undoubtably my favorite ME tune...and pretty damn close to my fav tune ever. I looooooooooove ballads and this is fine one. I hear Melissa saying to her lover, in this song, lets get out of here, lets change the scenery, lets get back what we once had....if we can't do that then I will leave so I don't have to have the pain of you leaving me. Sad love songs are *THE* best love songs...and they don't make me depressed, some how they give me hope. Probably because the songwriter is still alive and kickin' and willing to share their story with the world. I believe that this song without question shows the depth of ME's feeling and singing talent. Almost anyone can sing kick ass rock and roll, which ME does verrrrrrry well, but it takes real talent to perform this kind of song with such emotion and spirit. A second favorite of mine, which reminds me alot of this song is "All The Way to Heaven". I went to work today, on the holiday to get some much needed catch up work done. I was listening to 3 boots of ME, cranked up rather loud of course, when an employee of mine said to me during a break....(I waited for the complaint)..."Wow, that person, who is she? She sings so sensually, with such emotion. I had the pleasure of introducing her to ME. It was listening to these boots that I got to hear the version of YCSWID with k.d. lang....Man, was that GREAT!!!! I didn't think the song could be better but it was awesome. Thank you Ms. Melissa Etheridge for penning this song ( and recording it), thank you Ms. Jennifer Etheridge for choosing it as the SOTW. See Ya, Sue ****Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so**** -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See ****If Nothing Changes, Nothing Changes**** ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 00:08:08 PST From: "Vicky Adair" Subject: *etheridge* NMEC about FF Sorry to send this to the list, but I tried to reply to the FF list and it came back with this message. I have no idea why. So I hope everyone sees this!!! Hi. This is the qmail-send program at hotmail.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. : Connected to 130.168.64.1 but sender was rejected. Remote host said: 571 ... This domain is banned. - --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2294 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 1998 04:16:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19980209041650.2293.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 171.72.5.11 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 08 Feb 1998 20:16:50 PST X-Originating-IP: [171.72.5.11] All the names were here Subject: Re: dirty & vulgar replies on FF '98 report Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 20:16:50 PST - ----Original Message Follows---- Date: Sat, 7 Feb 98 11:26:47 -0600 (CST) To: alexis From: pattif@iadfw.net (Patti Fink) Hi all, I know nobody knows me here (I hoping to change that!) and I haven't posted too much to the list. I'm the shy one, just out of a looonngg relationship. I have never done anything like this in my life (by myself anyway)so I'm scared to death about the thought of traveling this far by myself. I hope that doesn't sound too stupid, but I have only been in three long term relationships since I came out, so I have never done the single thing well at ALL!! I'm hoping that the single lady's at the FF will give me some tips. I've been single for almost 3 months and I am almost afraid to go out still. (Think I'm afraid of getting my heart broken again) Anyway enough of the sad stuff. This FF feast is all about FUN right??? I wish it wasn't so far away!! Date and location, that is. I have always wanted to visit Texas though so this is the perfect opportunity. I wanted to go last year, but my GF didn't, so enough for that. I don't have to worry about that now!! :) >Yup, I'm definitely a "2" on the ASOPP....ROTFL!!! Riiiiight... But >did I mention that I have a great, hot convertible that's perfect for >roadtrips with MElisters?...and MElusters? >> as I lead the way in my convertible with the top down, carful of >>MElisters, $$ See what I mean....LOL!! I am thinking of driving my hot little convertable I just bought as well, and am wondering if anyone might want to ride along. It's a hardtop convertable corvette, so believe me it doesn't have hardly any room!! (so shorts would probably be all we could bring) ;) I just bought it after the break up so the weather has been bad. Now I can't wait to take off the top and I'm sure once it comes off it's gonna' be even more FUN to drive!!! > >BRING HOT FRIENDS! PLAYmates, PINups, dominaTRICKS...bring them >all...that is,if you yourself are not a hot little mama...if you're >unsure, use the A.S.O.P.P. method. (Alex's Scale Of Prospective >Possibility) Email me personally for this free informative, accurate test. I think I'd give myself a "2" also. I was just starting a website right before my X and I broke up so I had a bunch of pictures of her and I scanned, then when we broke up, I stopped working on it. It really isn't much of anything yet, but I hope to add some stuff on MLE and some pictures of myself soon. I'm back to learning and adding some things now, so if anyway wants to check it out and hopfully see what I look like soon, (I'm having trouble linking to my other pages and my pictures and stuff still) the address is http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/7548 Oh and don't forget to sign the guest book. :) I'll see what I can do about inviting some of the Bay Area Babe's with me. Maybe I can start a convey down to Texas. Well that's it for now. Vicky ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #368 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #369 Date: February 18, 1998 4:01 AM etheridge-digest Wednesday, February 18 1998 Volume 01 : Number 369 *etheridge* new album reaction ["Bonnie Phillips" ] *etheridge* A Measure of My Sanity... [Jenniffer Smith ] *etheridge* Re: Copyrights [pattif@iadfw.net (Patti Fink)] *etheridge* Susie Davis in MLE's band [bab_news ] *etheridge* Grammy's greatest performance [Tan Peters Subject: *etheridge* new album reaction Jennifer Smith wrote: >> if saying that one does not care for John Shanks' guitar >> playing constitutes a judgement on the part of that person, >> I hate to see what will happen when the new CD is released. Are you saying that some people might not think it's a masterpiece? :-) Bonnie "If you have to be handcuffed to somebody, Pierce Brosnan is a pretty good choice." (Michelle Yeoh) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:06:51 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: *etheridge* A Measure of My Sanity... Hello, all... As I was sitting here loaded to the hilt with work and other personal projects, I was hit with an idea that could very well lead to the demise of my sanity. For right now, this idea sounds pretty good to me...but I want to throw it out to the rest of you and see what kind of response/offers of help I receive. It occurred to me that since we have lists of performances and TV appearances, and a discography, it might be sort of neat to have any of the interviews and other articles by or about MLE put together and located on one centralized page. As Glenna has already stated, this project will be of humongous proportion. I'm also not sure about copyright laws (Edgy? Tracey? Anyone?), but I would assume that if proper attributes were given, there would not be any major problems. I know that there are several listers who collect articles and other blurbs...I have a small sample of articles and I know that some folks have a wealth of material that they might be willing to share. Basically what I'm doing at this point is putting out 'feelers' (*some* of you need not take that the wrong way! ) to see what's out there. This isn't necessarily a call for show of approval for the idea itself...but rather an attempt to see what kind of info and help (ie, entering text of articles and emailing to me to be transferred to HTML, etc) is available. Any input (other than, at the risk of sounding nasty , one word/line responses of approval) is certainly welcome. Thanks... jen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those in touch with it. --Jane Wagner ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:26:51 -0500 (EST) From: Vivian Choh Subject: *etheridge* mle and julie photo hi folks, was at the dentist today and noted small little pic. of mle and julie in the magazine "InStyle". sorry, didn't have time to grab the volume issue before i had to go get my teeth checked out and when i came back out someone was reading it... if anyone out there reads this mag. regularly, it's the one about kevin bacon and kyra(?) sedgewick's wedding (the subheading on the cover said something like "zero degress of separation"). pic was apparently taken at the "ellen's 100th show" party. not being much help i know (sorry!), viv Vivian Choh 'Is it better to have words left unsaid bi189@torfree.net than to have words misunderstood?' vchoh@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca -- from "Pale Sun", Cowboy Junkies http://quark.uwaterloo.ca/~vchoh/ ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:13:35 -0700 (MST) From: Shorely@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Bob Masse Melissa Poster Hey Everybody, Famed rock poster artist Bob Masse is willing to do a poster of Melissa but he has to be guaranteed that 300 will be sold. This will be an original art work signed by Mr. Masse himself, and it will not be commercially available. I found out about his work because he did a poster for Tori Amos and Fiona Apple. The Paula Cole list is also trying to convince him to do a poster right now. They're having trouble getting 300 people to agree, but I know Melissa has much more fan support. If we can get enough support to get him to to do one, the cost would be $30 + $5 shipping. Not bad for an original work that's guaranteed to be a collectors item. If you would like to see some of Mr. Masse's past work go to http://www.bmasse.com/pics.html Also we will need websites to feature the poster once it is complete. Please e-mail me if you would be seriously interested in getting a poster, or if you have a website that we could put the poster on. thanks Lisa ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:50:34 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* MLE VCR alert - "grammy's greatest performances" and "duets" "KUKULSKI@aol.com" wrote: > Hey all listers ~ just caught glimpse of next weeks tv program > forecast ... > > On Feb. 22nd {Sun}, at 9am ~ VH-1's running past grammy telecasts, > and yes Melissa is listed! as an addendum to kay's post, i searched my online TV program listings at "the gate" (http://www.sfgate.com), and discovered that there will be quite a few chances to catch the "grammy's greatest performances" program on VH1. so, according to "the gate", here are the upcoming showings of this program. please check the local listings in your area (and channel number - VH1 is channel 48 in my area)! :-) > Grammy's Greatest Performances > > Saturday, February 21, 1998 - 1:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > PROGRAM: Music Special (60 Minutes) > Performances by Eric Clapton; Michael Jackson; Sheryl Crow; Boyz II > Men; Melissa Etheridge; Bonnie Raitt; Tina Turner. > > Future Showing Times: > 1. Saturday, February 21, 1998 - 1:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > 2. Saturday, February 21, 1998 - 9:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > 3. Sunday, February 22, 1998 - 9:00 AM - Channel 48 VH1 > 4. Sunday, February 22, 1998 - 3:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > 5. Tuesday, February 24, 1998 - 12:00 AM - Channel 48 VH1 > 6. Tuesday, February 24, 1998 - 11:00 AM - Channel 48 VH1 > 7. Tuesday, February 24, 1998 - 9:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > 8. Wednesday, February 25, 1998 - 5:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 i'm sure jen will be thrilled to learn that boyz II men are also on the program! ;-) personally, i'm ecstatic that VH1 is showing this show during the daylight hours so that i can actually see it (since VH1 shares its channel with Comedy Central in my area). i hope it's MLE's first "grammy" performance that VH1 is showing... i recently acquired a CD entitled "grammy's greatest performances vol. IV" (the title is something like that) that contains MLE's performance of BMSW and an 8" x 10" color picture of her from that show, so getting the video of her 1989 grammy show would be like hitting a home run in my book! or maybe it's like the US women's hockey team winning the gold medal against canada...final score: 3-1. woo wee! :-D while i'm at it, i also discovered on RockOnTV (http://www.rockontv.com) that "duets" will be rebroadcast on VH1 for the umpteenth time on saturday, february 21st at 8 pm. again, check your local listings! *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:52:55 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* spam, JF, JA, susie davis, copyrights "Bonnie Phillips" wrote: > Bad rhondda! Never do that! I know the temptation (and I've done > it) but if you reply the scum at the other end knows s/he's hit a > live address and will just sell it to the next spammer that comes > along. Always write to the postmaster or abuse address. It feels > really good when you get a response that the person has had their > account terminated. oops! i usually only do that if i see the same names pop up in my inbox more than once. i'll do that next time, though. words to the wise... in response to viv's message about JF being pregnant, bonnie wrote: > I read somewhere online that Foster is pregnant. It was probably > a newsgroup or Cybersleaze. Not exactly the most reliable of > sources. this rumor has been online at many of the usual gossip places (E! online, mr. showbiz, etc.), but apparently, pat kingsley (that's her name, right?), JF's publicist, has denied this rumor, stating that JF wants to concentrate on directing and producing at this time. wrt the discussion about why MLE didn't have joan armatrading on her "duets" show, MLE at least did the next best thing by doing JA's, "love and affection." said: > Mary said that the woman's name was Susie Davis and that during > the concert Susie played the keyboard to loudly, distracting from > Melissa...maybe that was why she was used for only a part of one > tour. Interesting........ i'm going to have to relisten to some of the Record Plant stuff to see if i hear susie davis' distracting keyboards, but one thing i did hear (from john juan demoaner, i believe, whom i last spotted at the recent IG shows - he's not "in the stereo cabinet" ) is that MLE *may* have had a problem with susie's......after-hours activities. this is a pure unsubstantiated rumor, FWIW. Jenniffer Smith wrote: > It occurred to me that since we have lists of performances and TV > appearances, and a discography, it might be sort of neat to have > any of the interviews and other articles by or about MLE put > together and located on one centralized page. > > As Glenna has already stated, this project will be of humongous > proportion. I'm also not sure about copyright laws (Edgy? Tracey? > Anyone?), but I would assume that if proper attributes were given, > there would not be any major problems. I know that there are > several listers who collect articles and other blurbs...I have a > small sample of articles and I know that some folks have a wealth > of material that they might be willing to share. from what i've been able to gather from my recent reading of copyright-related literature, i could see this project causing *major* problems for whomever hosts this compilation of articles . namely, that this person would be open to charges of copyright violations of a huge magnitude. unlike the discography, peter's concert list, and sue's TV appearances' list, which are basically bibliographic in nature, we would be reproducing the articles in their entirety. one is able to copy an article without violating the author's copyright if they reproduce only enough so that the work doesn't lose its commercial value (which i believe is about 250 words). the only exception to this is the "fair use doctrine" (the articles are used for purposes of education, parody, criticism, etc.), but i don't think that our proposed project would qualify for this exception. if we did want to compile all of these MLE-related articles, in order not to violate the authors' copyrights, then we would have to contact all of them and ask their permission to post the articles in their entirety. that's a daunting task in itself. there is a really good site called "10 Big Myths about copyright explained" (http://www.clari.net/brad/copymyths.html) that explains this whole copyright business so even we laypeople can understand it. i found a link to this site plus many other useful ones at my own law firm's site (http://www.townsend.com). [i'm not an attorney, i just play one on TV! ] so, in the alternative, what if we just compiled a bibliography of various MLE-related articles rather than the entire articles themselves? then, our information should be OK, since facts themselves cannot be copyrighted (while their expression can). that wasn't a one-line answer...;-) *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:01:08 +0900 From: Trace Subject: *etheridge* Copyrights In response to Jenn's idea that we consider creating a page o'articles, with consideration of copyright issues, Rhondda hit the nail on the head when she said: > from what i've been able to gather from my recent reading of > copyright-related literature, i could see this project causing > *major* problems for whomever hosts this compilation of articles > . namely, that this person would be > open to charges of copyright violations of a huge magnitude. Oh, and how. It is getting to the point, particularly with publications that have web based versions, that use of even a small picture, without permission, on a purely personal-adoration-of-an-artist-no-money-made-just-for-love webpage, is bringing the full wrath of corporate attorneys down on the heads of well-meaning fans. A little more furiously than they deserve, 9 times out of 10, might I add, but it is happening nonetheless. So wrt an article compilation page, unless permission was received from both author and original publisher of every single article posted, eventually, the project coordinator/manager/host would become bogged down in a morass of harassing e-mails and letters and threats to/from their ISP, just like the guy who ran the "Distorted Barbie" site, and the guy over here in Japan, who had his access completely taken from him, without warning, and all of the latest copies of his website files destroyed because he had sneak preview sound clips of Madonna's "Frozen" on his Madonna Shrine page. So, from my perspective, this isn't a project that I would recommend anyone undertake. Then again, I also don't recommend that anyone distribute word-for-word copies of articles without permission, as is often done on this and other lists, for the protection of *everyone* directly involved. That's just my .02 cents, Trace, "I am lawyer, but I play mommy in real life" ** Trace * thack22@voicenet.com * totallytrue@hotmail.com ** ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 98 01:13:54 -0600 (CST) From: pattif@iadfw.net (Patti Fink) Subject: *etheridge* Re: Copyrights *rhondda* suggested: >so, in the alternative, what if we just compiled a bibliography of >various MLE-related articles rather than the entire articles >themselves? then, our information should be OK, since facts >themselves cannot be copyrighted (while their expression can). I know Tracey has already given us ample reason not even to pursue this topic further , but I thought I might throw in for discussion the option of compiling a bibliography of MLE-related articles that does not include the entire text of any of the articles at all but, rather, a short synopsis/distinction of the article's contents (e.g. "First interview of MLE after she came out publicly"). It wouldn't involve direct or entire quotes from the article's contents by any means, but would give some idea about which article is what. And if not that, then perhaps even a scale of some sort for how long the article is (so people don't order back-issues of publications only to find a passing paragraph mention of MLE), and/or whether or not photos accompany the article. Even a simple appropriately-credited bibliography of articles in and of itself with no accompanying information would be nice info for fans without stepping on anyone's toes (or would it, Tracey?) Just MHO, Patti, who's not an Olympian but who is nevertheless captive to a bout with the flu ("....and she's down on the mat!!! One....two.....three.....she's trying to stand up!!") ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 00:22:22 -0800 From: bab_news Subject: *etheridge* Susie Davis in MLE's band said: > Mary said that the woman's name was Susie Davis and that during > the concert Susie played the keyboard to loudly, distracting from > Melissa...maybe that was why she was used for only a part of one > tour. Interesting........ Yes, it was SF Bay Area musician, Susie Davis... as several have mentioned, she played on only part of one tour... besides MLE, she's toured with (among others) Sheila E, the Rolling Stones, and Pat Benatar (with whom she played guitar and keyboards). Re: the keyboards being too loud... if that's the case, it's a problem with the sound tech, or a problem with poor sound check before the show. The sound tech has far more control over the keyboard player's volume than the performer. A similar thing happened at a Melissa-show Rhondda and I both attended in San Jose (YIA tour, 1993?). During the first set, the bass drum was mic'd waaaay too hot, booming throughout the first set, overwhelming Melissa's voice, but after her second (solo) set, the sound tech corrected sound levels and the bass drum no longer intruded. Rhondda replied to Lovrbutt: >i'm going to have to relisten to some of the Record Plant stuff to >see if i hear susie davis' distracting keyboards, When I saw Susie playing with Melissa in Santa Cruz, I did not notice anything distracting... except perhaps for her wonderful dance steps while playing keyboards. :) And I remember she got a huge cheer (wolf whistles, etc) when she walked out on stage. Rhondda continued: >........... but one thing i >did hear (from john juan demoaner, i believe, whom i last spotted at >the recent IG shows - he's not "in the stereo cabinet" ) is that >MLE *may* have had a problem with susie's......after-hours >activities. this is a pure unsubstantiated rumor, FWIW. hehehe... yes, Susie's known for certain 'self-control' issues when working, and when she worked weekend overnights at a local radio station, she once left the studio to go up to the roof for some 'private moments'... accidently allowing the locking door to close behind her, leaving her stranded on the roof all night... the station broadcast dead air until morning... I know, I listened all night to *all* her shows, even rearranging my personal weekend schedule so I could stay up all night to hear her... I *wondered* why the station went silent that night... discovered the truth many years later when I worked with her dad (also a DJ) at another radio station. But to give her the benefit of the doubt, Susie was also known to intentionally choose touring gigs for their geographic interest, participating in those touring legs which most interested her... or legs which allowed her to remain in certain parts of the US, and it was the western (home) leg of Melissa's tour during which Susie was in Melissa's band. BAB_NEWS (aka John Juan deMoaner) San Jose CA ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 03:57:38 -0500 From: Tan Peters Subject: *etheridge* Grammy's greatest performance hi all, not having an opportunity to catch these fantastic grammy telecasts inEurope I'd like to ask if anyone from this list would be willing to tap= e the performance for me. please e-mail me privately I'm very happy to pay for it!! thanks, tan - -life is full of wonder love is never wrong- MLE ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #369 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #370 Date: February 19, 1998 3:43 AM etheridge-digest Thursday, February 19 1998 Volume 01 : Number 370 *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #369 ["Bonnie Phillips" Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #369 Jenniffer Smith wrote: >projects, I was hit with an idea that could very well lead to the demise of >my sanity. Jen, you know I love you dearly and would never insult you, but I must write this - your sanity's long gone. ;-) >the interviews and other articles by or about MLE put together and >located on one centralized page. You've already received several good answers. One suggestion was a list of articles instead. Even that would be a lot of work. I believe a list was started several years ago (when the concert and tv lists were put together) and never completed and made available. And there weren't nearly as many articles then. This is not to say that somebody or somebodies shouldn't do it but it will be a lot of work. Vivian Choh wrote: >the magazine "InStyle". sorry, didn't have time to grab the volume issue I think that's the one currently on the stands. Rhondda Ashby wrote: >from what i've been able to gather from my recent reading of >copyright-related literature, i could see this project causing And whatever possessed you to spend time reading such fascinating material? >value (which i believe is about 250 words). the only exception to >this is the "fair use doctrine" (the articles are used for purposes >of education, parody, criticism, etc.), but i don't think that our >proposed project would qualify for this exception. We could make a case for "education". A very poor one though. >themselves? then, our information should be OK, since facts >themselves cannot be copyrighted (while their expression can). Bet a certain person (with the initials "Sue Paduano") thinks otherwise. :-) bab_news wrote: (OK, rhondda, he's not "in the stereo cabinet" but he's changed his name :-) >But to give her the benefit of the doubt, Susie was also known to >intentionally choose touring gigs for their geographic interest, >participating in those touring legs which most interested her... >or legs which allowed her to remain in certain parts of the US, >and it was the western (home) leg of Melissa's tour during which >Susie was in Melissa's band. And eastern (perhaps all of) Canada. Bonnie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 11:22:49 EST From: Vegashill@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* mle post Hey!!! I saw a comercial on TNN (isnt that the country cable station?) anyway..Melissa was talking about safe sex and AIDS...i think it was for LifeBeat..im not sure, I just caught the tail end of it...anyway just wanted to let ya know!! Hilary ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 13:26:54 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* BAB alert: Bay Area Music Collectors' Expo (NMLEC) because i received a bunch of private mail bemoaning the fact that i had gone to the Bay Area Music Collectors' Expo last october but didn't let BAB'ers know about it on the list, please consider this your proper notice of this event. the Music Collectors' Expo will be held this weekend on february 20th-22nd in the Redwood Hall at the San Mateo County Expo Center in the San Mateo County Fairgrounds. this is probably the best music collectors' show i've ever attended, and i *highly* recommend that you make it to least one of the days during this weekend's show. i've always found something MLE-related (not to mention many other artists) to purchase at these shows. here is the schedule: friday, 2/20: 2 pm - 8 pm; Early Birds' Special; $25 admission saturday, 2/21: 11 am - 7 pm; $5 admission sunday, 2/22: 11 am - 4 pm; $5 admission parking on the fair grounds is $5 per car, although i have had no problems locating parking in the nearby residential areas and walking to the fairgrounds. the fairgrounds are easily accessible via highways 101, 280, or 92, and also via public transportation (SamTrans buses [schedule info at http://www.transitinfo.org/SamTrans/] and Caltrain commuter trains [schedule info at http://www.transitinfo.org/Caltrain/). just some pointers...i've never been to friday's "Early Birds' Special", so i can't provide an opinion about whether it's worth to go that day or not (probably not, unless you're trying to get something *very* rare). i would suggest on going early, preferably on saturday the 21st, because the "good stuff" can sell out quickly. in the past, the admission price was not only good for both days (just be sure to get a re-entry ticket), but it also allowed you to check out the Antique & Collector's Revival which is happening simultaneously at a nearby hall on the fairgrounds. bring a couple of plastic grocery bags or a backpack to lug your swag around - it never fails that the vendors either run out of bags right when you get to their table or they didn't have any to begin with. also, be sure to sign up for their mailing list (near the hall's entrance), so that you will receive their periodic postcard reminders about upcoming Collectors' Expos. FYI, the Music Collectors' Expo usually occurs 3 times a year (february, june, and october). near the entrance, you can also pick up some other good resources, such as the Record Collector, a freebie newspaper-type periodical that discusses collecting and lists upcoming shows in the Western US. if you need further information, such as directions to the expo, please check out the san mateo expo center's web site at http://www.sanmateoexpo.org/index.html or call the expo directly at (650) 574-3247 or the San Francisco Chronicle Cityline at (415) 512-5000, Category #7850. see you at the show! :-) *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 21:50:39 EST From: SilntLgacy@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* SHIRTS....LAST CAAAALLLLL!!! Ok folks..this is it!!!! If anyone else plans on ordering shirts, YOU MUST email me by Friday 5pm telling me your order is in the mail, and EXACTLY what styles, sizes and quanity you have ordered as I will be placing the order Friday evening. I WILL NOT be ordering "extras" so if you want one this is last call! Thanks to all for making this run so smooth! Ill keep you all posted! Betsy ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #370 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #371 Date: February 21, 1998 3:37 AM etheridge-digest Saturday, February 21 1998 Volume 01 : Number 371 *etheridge* "In Style" magazine alert [Rhondda Ashby ] *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #370 [SEGNARP@aol.com] Re: *etheridge* MLE live at KCRW 10/12/93 [MeemNan@aol.com] *etheridge* Leather Lace-ups ["Lynn Torrey" ] *etheridge* New (?) Imports Location [03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu] *etheridge* SOTW - IWY [Martina Crevecoeur ] Re: *etheridge* MLE live at KCRW 10/12/93 ["Tricia" ] RE: *etheridge* SOTW - IWY [Martina Crevecoeur ] Re: *etheridge* New (?) Imports Location [Rhondda Ashby ] Re: *etheridge* New (?) Imports Location [Deb ] Re: *etheridge* Female band member, Joan Armatrading, TWIM [Deb ] *etheridge* Tunnel Records [KUKULSKI@aol.com] *etheridge* Hello fellow MLE fans!! ["Anneke Rader" Subject: *etheridge* "In Style" magazine alert during E!'s last "news weekend", there was a brief report from the editor of "In Style" magazine (at least, i think she was the editor) about a feature article regarding Steven Weber's (the cutie-pie from the TV show, "Wings", and the feature film, "Jeffrey") and his wife's remodeling of their house. of course, by now, you're wondering where the MLEC is in this post, right? patience, my friends, patience... they showed pictures of their house during the E! report, and then, the editor/person-in-the-know mentioned that their house used to be owned by MLE. hey, whatdya know? anyway, i casually searched the current "In Style" issue (the one previously mentioned by viv and bonnie with Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick on the cover) for the Steven Weber article without success. so, unless i missed it completely (which wouldn't be surprising), i'm guessing that this article will be in the *next* issue of "In Style". so, keep your eyes open for the article, you hear? ;-) yours in El Nino... *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:03:34 -0500 From: Deb Subject: *etheridge* MLE live at KCRW 10/12/93 Just had a chance to listen again to MLE's "Morning Becomes Eclectic" at (you'll need RealAudio ). It's pretty good if you haven't heard it; about 30 min. of interview and live songs (CtMW, IWNBtS, and a fine version of "Watching You" by Douridas' request). The first bit of interview sounds like she's just waking up , but it picks up nicely. - -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo _________________________________________________________________ "The journey forward includes movement through despair and darkness" - Jane Siberry, "You Will Be Born" ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:49:45 EST From: SEGNARP@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #370 betsy.. i sent you my order YESTERDAY!! im hoping you get it by TOMORROW!!! im also known as KeepItPrec!!! i ordered a MED baseball shirt...the check is enclosed with the order!!! gINA ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:22:02 EST From: MeemNan@aol.com Subject: Re: *etheridge* MLE live at KCRW 10/12/93 I had to send this message to Indigo (Deb) personally and to the list. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I cannot thank you enough for posting this info. This is one of the reasons I joined on to this list, so that I could hear or learn of any info that exists on Melissa. I have always enjoyed "listening" to Melissa, her singing and talking. This was such a GREAT pleasure to hear her again. I cannot express to all of you all the wonderful feelings and how they rushed in upon hearing Melissa sing and talk. I could have listened to the recording for hours, but the almost 30 minutes is a great beginning (I am starting to play it again as I am typing). This is one of the reasons why I have always preferred the import cds to commercial cds, because of getting the "extra" of hearing Melissa sing and talk. Boy, it has been a horribly l o n g time since I last saw Melissa live, (October, 1996 - 3 weekends in a row - St Louis, Chicago, Indy, Detroit) and it seems like next year is still so far away. Thanks so much again, for posting this site. MeemNan@aol.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 18:54:10 +0000 From: "Lynn Torrey" Subject: *etheridge* Leather Lace-ups A brief MLE reference in the Feb 15 Sunday Los Angeles Times Magazine. In an article about designer Henry Duarte titled "Hide Bound" by Mary Melton, Melissa gets a mention via those famous leather lace ups. And guess what? When Mr. Duarte opens his new Sunset Strip boutique in April, you too can plunk down a mere $1,600 for a pair of your very own! I know, I know, exciting news indeed. The article mentions that Duarte has designed some fairly famous rock outfits (I gather) such as Soundgarden's Chris Cornell's personal wardrobe, Axl Rose's leather kilt worn at the Freddie Mercury tribute and the gown for Lenny Kravitz's "Are You Gonna Go My Way" video. None of these are available, but the serious rock wannabee "can drop by and, for $1,600, get fitted for Duarte's signature custom-made rawhide leather pants, just like the ones he shaped to hug the backsides of Jimmy Page, Steven Tyler and Melissa Etheridge. With hand-trussed flair legs, smartly tooled belt loops and crotch lacework..." Asked if after producing so many leather pants he was tiring of the style or the material, Duarte responded : "Chanel had her one jacket, this is my pant". Oh Coco, we hardly knew ye. Lynn ljt96@earthlink.net ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 23:13:49 -0500 (EST) From: 03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: *etheridge* New (?) Imports Location That is, it's new to *me* (which does't mean a whole heck of a lot in the grand scheme of things!)... www.tunnelrecords.com/index/listings/melissa.htm For those of you who are interested in picking up some imports, they have a nice selection, although they're a bit pricey. I saw a few titles that were unfamiliar to me. I barely skimmed their stocking policy, but from what I could tell, they might not have everything in stock--however it sounds as though they'll go to great lengths to obtain your request. They're located in Tampa, FL, which brings me to this question: Does anyone know if this is the former Rainy Day Records (or did Amy Ray kick their butts clear outta bidness? )? I seem to remember Deb mentioning that RDR had fled to the sunshine state when Amy caught them selling private IG's recordings...I owe Amy a lot because she's saved me some serious $$ on my last couple of trips to Atlanta! jen--who suddenly misses Atlanta... - ---- Jenniffer Smith | 03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu | "I Believe Bill!" Ball State University | Muncie IN | My opinions bear no resemblance whatsoever to those of my employer ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 05:53:44 +0100 From: Martina Crevecoeur Subject: *etheridge* SOTW - IWY Hi everybody--- I was just thinking that it is not that much fun, popping in and out, = throwing a SOTW in here, like ...."now discuss" and not saying a single = word about the song oneself. I mean then we could just do them in = alphabetical order or something, week after week. Okay, so what about a new one??? ?I want you". I am listening to it right now over my headphones?.VERY LOUD!!!!!! And = it's very early in the morning over here, but that makes me want to = dance. The music fits the lyrics perfectly IMO. It is such a powerful = song and she sings it with so much intensity and feeling, anger and = desire. I might be wrong, but back in 1988 it was maybe not that = ?common" that a woman sings about her physical needs, about passionate = sex that candidly (and she was singing about having sex with a = woman?although only the "insiders" knew ). I guess these sort of = lyrics and that "fire" in her music is what has distinguished Melissa's = music from all the other "Women in Rock" that have come and subsequently = gone over the past years. My favorite moment is when she sucks in that air after?.One quenchless = night of shaking lust.(??.) and fire.=20 Whewwwwww!!! I would love to see her do that in concert!!!! Martina ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:01:30 +0000 From: "Tricia" Subject: Re: *etheridge* MLE live at KCRW 10/12/93 Does anyone have this interview taped? I'd love a copy.... Let me know privately if you would be willing to trade...my trading page is located at http://home.netinc.ca/~tbird/mletrade.htm Thanks in advance... On 19 Feb 98 at 15:03, Deb wrote: > Just had a chance to listen again to MLE's "Morning Becomes Eclectic" at > (you'll > need RealAudio ). It's pretty good if you haven't > heard it; about 30 min. of interview and live songs (CtMW, IWNBtS, and a > fine version of "Watching You" by Douridas' request). The first bit of > interview sounds like she's just waking up , but it picks up nicely. > Tricia tbird@netinc.ca http://home.netinc.ca/~tbird .. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:19:05 +0100 From: Martina Crevecoeur Subject: RE: *etheridge* SOTW - IWY I don't know how these question marks got into my post where there were just """" when I wrote it here. Sorry. Martina ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 23:41:15 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: Re: *etheridge* New (?) Imports Location 03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu wrote: > That is, it's new to *me* (which does't mean a whole heck of a > lot in the grand scheme of things!)... > > www.tunnelrecords.com/index/listings/melissa.htm > > For those of you who are interested in picking up some imports, > they have a nice selection, although they're a bit pricey. I > saw a few titles that were unfamiliar to me. I barely skimmed > their stocking policy, but from what I could tell, they might > not have everything in stock--however it sounds as though they'll > go to great lengths to obtain your request. tunnel record's been around for several years. i first heard about them on Luckytown, the bruce list. i've never ordered from them personally, but i have heard varying reports about their reliability, mainly that they can take a long time to get your order to you. of course, this could have been because those people ordered some hard-to-find items. perhaps someone who has ordered from them could comment further on this. for this left coast chick, tunnel's prices are pretty reasonable. my local "live import" store usually sells 1 CD boots for $29.99 and 2 CD boots for $49.99. occasionally, you can find boots cheaper around here, say at a record show, but that's generally the going rate for this area. when i went boot trolling in the village in NYC 3 years ago, my mouth fell agape not only at the HUGE selection of boots, but also their loooow prices ($20/$40). i had a tough time controlling myself! :-) i purchased my very first MLE boot there..."bon soir montreal". ah, such memories! *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:32:49 -0800 From: "J. Croft" Subject: *etheridge* Tunnel Records Rhondda wrote: >tunnel record's been around for several years. i first heard about >them on Luckytown, the bruce list. i've never ordered from them >personally, but i have heard varying reports about their reliability, >mainly that they can take a long time to get your order to you. Thus far, I haven't heard a GOOD thing said about Tunnel Records, but I think the key to success in ordering from them is patience. My first order with them was in '95 -- I ordered six boots in the summer months and received them 1 at a time over the course of the following 9 months.... it wasn't until the first quarter of '96 that the order was totally filled. I placed a second order of 10 boots with them last month, and know for a fact (they told me!) that two of the boots are in stock, but I haven't received them yet. They are definitely a caveat emptor kinda place! To their benefit, they are now sending out a weekly e-mail update to customers so you can find out what back-orders are being filled, I have heard they refund money to dissatisfied customers, and they are now actually getting pretty good about responding to e-mail. Oh - and if you do spend time analyzing their code system to figure out what is in stock and what is on perpetual backorder, don't believe the "A's" -- I ordered some Etheridge "A" boots, which should mean immediate shipment, but that's turned out not to be the case. >occasionally, you can find boots cheaper >around here, say at a record show, You are likely to find a boot at a record show before Tunnel gets around to finding you a copy! >i purchased my very first MLE boot there..."bon soir montreal". ah, >such memories! But I know you are now hopelessly devoted to that little 'ol Christmas show in Chi-town, right R? Rock 'em, sock 'em! Jib JL Jiblet Croft ** jiblet@pretenders.org ** http://www.pretenders.org ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:16:21 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: *etheridge* New (?) Imports Location Jen wrote: >That is, it's new to *me* (which does't mean a whole heck of a >lot in the grand scheme of things!)... > >www.tunnelrecords.com/index/listings/melissa.htm > >For those of you who are interested in picking up some imports, >they have a nice selection, although they're a bit pricey. Like Rhondda, I think they're reasonable. >They're located in Tampa, FL, which brings me to this question: >Does anyone know if this is the former Rainy Day Records (or did >Amy Ray kick their butts clear outta bidness? )? No, they just held a benefit to buy a bigger space in Atlanta, and when that "didn't work out" moved to Key West. My plans never fall through with such fine results!!! > I seem to >remember Deb mentioning that RDR had fled to the sunshine state >when Amy caught them selling private IG's recordings...I owe Amy >a lot because she's saved me some serious $$ on my last couple >of trips to Atlanta! I didn't find much there on my few trips, but I seem to be in the minority! I'm sure I'll have a chance to see them again, Tori and I love Key West, and it's always a struggle for us to choose to vacation elsewhere... =-=-=-= Jib wrote: >Thus far, I haven't heard a GOOD thing said about Tunnel Records, but I >think the key to success in ordering from them is patience. My first order They're very upfront on their page about the delays. The main problem I have is that they bill your credit card before they ship. That's a problem for me, since I only have 60 days to refute a charge and they might not deliver for months. I've only ordered 2 boots from them (Shawn Colvin and Roseanne Cash), and I received one 6 weeks after the charge, and still waiting on the other, which I ordered about 8 weeks ago. - -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:22:00 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: *etheridge* Female band member, Joan Armatrading, TWIM At 08:18 PM 2/15/98 +0000, Amy Partrick wrote: >Now that I think about it, didn't MLE indicate that the >producers suggested who she should duet with in some interview? Yes, as I recall, VH-1 selected the participants. - -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:21:36 -0500 From: Deb Subject: Re: *etheridge* Copyrights At 03:01 PM 2/18/98 +0900, Trace wrote: >Oh, and how. It is getting to the point, particularly with publications >that have web based versions, that use of even a small picture, without >permission, on a purely >personal-adoration-of-an-artist-no-money-made-just-for-love webpage, is >bringing the full wrath of corporate attorneys down on the heads of >well-meaning fans. I think Trace overstated the case here... it's happened in very isolated cases, generally to large sites, especially those for muscians which feature audio clips. Still, I think having a massive archive of MLE articles would be asking for trouble (whereas a couple of articles sent to a list or posted on a home page would not). And Joyce can tell you, if you want anything from my archive you'll have to come to DC and fetch it yourself. :-) - -- Deb \\ indigo@mindspring.com \\ http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:32:09 EST From: KUKULSKI@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Tunnel Records Rhondda wrote: >tunnel record's been around for several years. i first heard about >them on Luckytown, the bruce list. i've never ordered from them >personally, but i have heard varying reports about their reliability, >mainly that they can take a long time to get your order to you. Oh so right you are regarding their delays ... and their reliabilty isn't something to brag about either! I ordered two boots from Tunnel before, and it took so long to receive em' ... by the time that I did receive em', I had already forgotten that I ordered them in the first place! So now I order imports n' such through a place called Record Runner in NY. So...for those of you who are considering purchasing a few boots from Tunnel Records, or any other record shop for that matter, but are a'bit hesitant in doing so due to one reason or the next ... I'm here to tell you that I can help relieve your headaches! Please read on..... I do a large number of boot trades .... and 'yes, in cd format'! I've been active in boot trades for some time now, and do believe that I deliver a good finished product. I've delt with many of you on this here list {{{they know that I'm talking about em'}}} ~ which you all have seemed to be quite satisfied with my. Overall, I've received NOT one complaint in regards to my work or services! And yep, I'm proud of this! {{{I'm not a vain person, really! LOL}}} Anyway seriously, I'm not here to dis Tunnel Records ... as I'm a'bit more mature then this! I'm sure that others may find that they're a good company, and that's cool ... that's their own thing! Nevertheless, I can't agree with em'! In my closing, I'd like to offer an alternative method of obtaining Melissa boots! Please feel free to browse over my collection ... as my collection may not equal/exceed Tunnels selections ... thou I believe that one can expect the same services {{{{{if not better}}}}} while mingling with me. If you're interested in checking out my boots ... please visit my collection here >>> Melissa On Video/Audio {http://members.aol.com/Jaguar9130/Footage/melissa_footage.htm} OR ... feel free to email me for a copy of my list. I hope that I can be of some help to those of you who are in seach of boots, but frown upon paying high didg for them! Sincerely, Kay ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:59:18 PST From: "Anneke Rader" Subject: *etheridge* Hello fellow MLE fans!! Hi everyone, My name is Anneke (pronounced Onica) Rader and I am from Michigan. I am 23 years old and a huge MLE fan like the rest of you. I just subscribed to this list and already know one person from the list. Hiya, Mel!! Thanks for subscribing me to the list. If you want to get in touch with me, you can either email me at: anneke22@hotmail.com OR if you have ICQ, you can reach me that way. My ICQ UIN number is 5415952. If you add me to your contact list I will be sure to add you to mine. Take care, hope to hear from some of you soon, and most of all.... KIP!! Anneke ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 21:30:53 -0700 From: edgy@linkline.com (Allison Fraiberg) Subject: Re: *etheridge* Duets At 12:22 PM 2/20/98, Deb wrote: >At 08:18 PM 2/15/98 +0000, Amy Partrick wrote: >>Now that I think about it, didn't MLE indicate that the >>producers suggested who she should duet with in some interview? >Yes, as I recall, VH-1 selected the participants. I thought that VH1 gave MLE two choices (Osborne and Cole) and they took two (Hawkins and Jewel). Allison edgy@linkline.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #371 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #372 Date: February 22, 1998 3:45 AM etheridge-digest Sunday, February 22 1998 Volume 01 : Number 372 *etheridge* Tunnel Records [opacity@webtv.net (Lynn Gothard)] *etheridge* Re: etheridge-info-digest V1 #17 ["RichardS@aol.com" ] *etheridge* The Velvet Janes visit [mardi ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 05:57:33 -0600 From: opacity@webtv.net (Lynn Gothard) Subject: *etheridge* Tunnel Records Tunnel Records is unreliable!! You may never get your order as it takes them months to send stuff. They charge your credit card for stuff they NEVER send you and then you can't get an anser from them when you inquire about matters. They still owe me $50 that I cannot seem to recover from them!!! THINK BEFORE YOU ORDER FROM THES PEOPLE!!! YOU MAY BE SORRY IF YOU ATTEMPT TO DEAL WITH THEM! LYNN ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 09:48:06 -0700 (MST) From: "RichardS@aol.com" Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-info-digest V1 #17 >Looking to buy bootleg CD from last tour. Must be high quality. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 10:53:13 -0600 From: "Patty Kolakowski" Subject: *etheridge* Tunnel Records Hi, Has anyone noticed that the subject of bootlegs seems to inspire the list. Regarding Tunnel Records, I first found out about them thru an ad in Goldmine. They don't advertise there anymore and my own feeling is Goldmine kicked them out because of the complaints about slow service. I have only ordered from them once. I didn't go the charge card route, but sent them a money order. I ordered "Valentine's Day" and it took FOREVER to receive it. It is a wonderful boot and worth the wait, but I was leery of ordering from them again. When they first started their web site they had almost every Melissa boot listed. I know some of the CDs were old and almost impossible to get, so I was skeptical that they really had access to them all. They have since shorted the ME selection. The only other time I tried to deal with them was to get "At the Ahoy" (I got this CD from a lister, Thanks Claudia). I didn't send them any money, but asked if the disc was really available. Even thou they had the show listed on an update, I don't think they ever obtained any. They seem to list CDs as they hear about them, then have to scour the earth trying to find one when it is ordered. I think their prices are reasonable and they even run overstock sales. Now if they would just send the CDs in a timely manner. pk ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:23:15 +0000 From: mardi Subject: *etheridge* The Velvet Janes visit Hey all...just passing saw your light on... Rose and I arrive in LA on the 15th March. Disneyland until the 20th March and then down into Sunset Boulevard for 5 days of clubs and academy awards!! (if anyone has any spare tickets please let us know!!!!) (any suggestions of clubs and good acts to catch also welcome!) THEN...we fly up to San Fran on Tuesday 24th March where we will be based until we leave on Sun 12th April. As far as I know so far we are doing a road trip to Reno with Andrea around the 4/5 April and no doubt lots of dinner and going out experiences. The only phone number I can give you where someone will know where we are is (415) 397 3825 - that's in San Fran. Otherwise Andrea (tanner@engr.sgi.com) will have a fairly good idea too...... We are majorly looking forward to giving the BAB a run for their money again and no doubt will have many fun experiences to speak of!!! So people put your respective party hats on.... (oh yes, does anyone have a great list of artists in the area at that time -serious concerts are a must!!) 21 sleeps to go Mardi & Rose The Velvet Janes Email vjanes@space.net.au ICQ No 2879115 (http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/7848/ ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #372 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #373 Date: February 23, 1998 3:48 AM etheridge-digest Monday, February 23 1998 Volume 01 : Number 373 *etheridge* Shirts on the way!!!!!! [SilntLgacy@aol.com] *etheridge* Video/Audio Site [KUKULSKI@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 21:21:12 EST From: SilntLgacy@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Shirts on the way!!!!!! As promised, I placed the order with the shirt vendors! One of the women I was dealing with was out with the flu..so I will finalize that part tommorow, hopefully shell be back then. I didnt want to deal with anyone but the people Id been talking to to avoid ANY mix ups! Thanks to all who made this go smoothly! Its been a big job, but I expected that..hopefully this tail end will be as hassle free, and in 4-6 weeks we will be in purple..just in time for spring!! Ill keep you posted...but for now I guess all we can do is sit back and let the vendors do their jobs. I will be on their backs tho..calling weekly just to stay in contact with them. Thanks again, all! Betsy ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:08:17 EST From: KUKULSKI@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Video/Audio Site For those of you that have written me to say that you were unable to reach my video/audio site ... I sincerely appologize for your inconvenience ... as I had taken this page down briefly for a few minor repairs. It is now back up ... and here is a hyperlink to it! Melissa On Video/Audio Sorry once again! The so apologetic one, Kay ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #373 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #374 Date: February 24, 1998 4:42 AM etheridge-digest Tuesday, February 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 374 *etheridge* Copyright? [Mike Lieman ] *etheridge* SMEC-MlLE links and using your graphics ["Vicky Adair" ] *etheridge* melissa stuff for sale [MFTM@aol.com] *etheridge* "grammy's greatest performances" and "In Style" magazine blurb [Rhondda Ashby ] Re: *etheridge* Duets [Aymee ] *etheridge* Great site so far! [KUKULSKI@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 06:20:45 -0500 From: Mike Lieman Subject: *etheridge* Copyright? Just to be a wet blanket, isn't all this chatter about WHERE TO BUY ILLEGAL RECORDINGS (i.e.: violating the NON-COMMERCIAL, HOME-USE ONLY precept of Taping) prohibited in the lists rules? peace Mike ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 07:56:06 -0700 (MST) From: "Vicky Adair" Subject: *etheridge* SMEC-MlLE links and using your graphics Hi all, I just wanted to let everyone know that my sight is coming along, but I want to use a few links to some of your sites and some grahics for the links. Also I used the MListers logo for a link to the mailing list. I wanted to make sure this was okay. There are only a couple there now, but I will be adding more all the time. So if anyone sees a link to their site or a graphic of theirs they don't want me to use, please let me know ASAP. Thanks, Vicky http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Heights/7548/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 07:38:15 PST From: "Anneke Rader" Subject: *etheridge* Melissa duets and other stuff Hi again everyone, Now I could be wrong in saying this, but I heard from a friend a while back that Melissa did a duet of her song 'You Can Sleep While I Drive' with both K.D. Lang and country singer, Terri Clark. Both at individual times, of course. Is this true or false? If it is true, could you please email me and tell me where I could find either and/or both of these recordings? I would appreciate it. Thanks!! Also, keep those ICQ UIN numbers coming!! I love making new friends, especially if they love the music of MLE like I do. If you have forgotten, my ICQ UIN number is 5415952. Thanks for allowing me to ramble. Take care, have a great day and most of all.... KIP!! :) Anneke ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:15:08 -0600 From: "Olivier & Julie Lebaillif" Subject: *etheridge* Janis Joplin For those of you interested in Janis Joplin. E TV will be doing an E True Hollywood Story on Janis this Sunday, 8 Eastern. I've seen a few of their stories and they are usually pretty interesting. Julie (& Olivier) ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:40:02 EST From: MFTM@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* melissa stuff for sale i am selling the remaining stock from my melissa/k.d. mail order biz. if you are interested, please e-mail me PRIVATELY and i will e-mail you the list. thx rebecca mftm@aol.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:16:28 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* "grammy's greatest performances" and "In Style" magazine blurb MLE's performance at this weekend's "grammy's greatest performances" show on VH1 was from the 1995 grammy's when she performed CTMW in her pirate's blouse and a pair of those leather pants that lynn recently posted about. unfortunately, all of the performances appeared to be slightly cut, either by jumping into the songs after they had already started or by cutting off the ends of them. there was a brief interview with MLE in which she talked about how her 1989 grammy's performance was one of her first big breaks, because it exposed her to a much larger audience. on 2/19, i posted an alert about an upcoming article about Steven Weber's and his wife, Juliette Hohnen's (former VH1 VJ), remodeling of their house, which had been previously owned by MLE. this weekend, i found the issue at my local barnes and noble. here's what the relevant blurb said: March 1998, "In Style" magazine (with Kim Basinger on the cover), by Hilary De Vries, pp. 242 - 247. "They [SW and JH] looked at Lee J. Cobb's house ('beautiful, rambling and really expensive') and Paul Muni's former bungalow ('tiny, low ceilings and very disappointing') before settling on this three- bedroom house, formerly owned by singer Melissa Etheridge. While equipped with such modern amenities as a home gym carved from half the guest house, the villa is rich in period details: hardwood floors, buttery stucco walls, a barrel-vaulted living room, and a hand-painted coffered ceiling in the entrance hall. More recent history can be glimpsed in the patio Etheridge poured: Embedded there is a time capsule of artifacts, among them a guitar pick, a nail file, a necklace, and a piece of tile engraved with sheet music. 'There's even a set of keys to a mustang out there,' says Weber, as he lights a fire in the soaring living room after lunch. 'This house is so great for parties,' he adds. 'It's like a Moorish castle. We open the French doors to the backyard, and at night the house glows.'" key captions to a couple of the pictures: "House lore has it that an earlier owner let Brad Pitt learn to fly fish in the pool (opposite) for his role in 'A River Runs Through It.'" "'The kitchen table (right) came with the house,' says Weber. 'It was too heavy to move out.'" there are several pictures in the article, including ones of the front of their house, the backyard, the pool, the living room, the kitchen, and one of the bedrooms. in fact, if you compare the 2 pictures of JC and MLE at their house in the color section of joyce's book (the pix are originally from a magazine article, but i've forgotten which one) - specifically, the picture of MLE jumping on JC's back and the picture of MLE sitting on the kitchen table laughing while JC and she are drinking some exotic drinks (margaritas?) - you'll recognize the kitchen table and the pool deck as the same ones in the "In Style" article. check out the article at your local bookstores now! :-) *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:59:31 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* paging randy or sue d, please pick up the white courtesy telephone...(NMLEC) i really, REALLY hate to do this, but could randy or sue d write me, please? i tried to reply twice to their private email this morning, and it bounced both times. apologies for the interruption...:-) *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:54:49 -0800 From: DeAnn Sanders Subject: *etheridge* Duets Howdy, I just saw "Duets" this weekend for the first time -(where have I been??). Anyway I was wondering if anyone else noticed Sophie B. Hawkins being REALLY happy to be arould MLE. Was it my imagination or was she going overboard? :-) DeA ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:26:33 -0500 From: Aymee Subject: Re: *etheridge* Duets At 02:54 PM 2/23/98 -0800, you wrote: >Howdy, I just saw "Duets" this weekend for the first time -(where have I >been??). Anyway I was wondering if anyone else noticed Sophie B. Hawkins >being REALLY happy to be arould MLE. Was it my imagination or was she going >overboard? >:-) DeA I was wondering this too. It looks like Sophie B. was coming on to MLE (who appeared quite uncomfortable) but not knowing either of them and particularly Sophie B.'s performance style I'd hate to make that assumption. Does anyone know what was going on? Also, why didn't Sophie join the group at the end rather than play the drum and why didn't she sing a MLE song with Melissa. Just wondering. Thanks DeA. LOL Mel ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:54:13 EST From: KUKULSKI@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Great site so far! >Hi all, >I just wanted to let everyone know that my sight is coming along, but I want >to use a few links to some of your sites and some grahics for the links. >Also I used the MListers logo for a link to the mailing list. I wanted to >make sure this was okay. There are only a couple there now, but I will be >adding more all the time. So if anyone sees a link to their site or a >graphic of theirs they don't want me to use, please let me know ASAP. Hi Vicky ~ great job on your site so far ..... loved your poem too! It was very truthfull! I personally don't have a problem with ya' using a link to my site or anything that you may be interested in featuring off of my page! So endulge if you must! The best of luck w/your new site. Kay ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #374 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #375 Date: February 25, 1998 4:24 AM etheridge-digest Wednesday, February 25 1998 Volume 01 : Number 375 *etheridge* same old same old ["Bonnie Phillips" ] *etheridge* Sarah McLachlin ["Christina Raehsler" ] *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #374 [OMySister@aol.com] *etheridge* RE: Copyright? [Jenniffer Smith ] *etheridge* Duets/Sophie B., etc [betasurely@lesbois.com] *etheridge* Duets ["Melissa Font (USF)" ] Re: *etheridge* "I want You" ["Melissa Font (USF)" ] *etheridge* Terri Clark, Shanks, Sarah McLachlan - SMEC [bed1@psu.edu (Be] Re: *etheridge* Terri Clark, Shanks, Sarah McLachlan - SMEC [Randy ] *etheridge* 'You Go Girl' [KUKULSKI@aol.com] *etheridge* bootlegs (NMLEC) [Rhondda Ashby ] *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #374 [mystichawk@juno.com (Margo L Gr] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 06:08:21 PST From: "Bonnie Phillips" Subject: *etheridge* same old same old Mike commented on bootleg cds vs tapes. Funny, I have one Melissa bootleg CD - I've never made a copy of it. Can you say the same about your tapes? I'm quite sure "home use" refers to one's own home, not making copies for all your friends. As for the discussion of Tunnel Records, people are just trying to steer others away from a bad dealer. No different from people trying to steer others away from bad traders. Bonnie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:09:59 PST From: "Christina Raehsler" Subject: *etheridge* Sarah McLachlin Popping in Just in case anyone wanted to know: CBS LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN - Sarah McLachlan.(CC)(TVPG)(Starts 11:35pm) (Ends 12:35am) Popping out... Christina ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:24:23 EST From: OMySister@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #374 Thank you Rhonda for the article about MLE's house. Interesting! OMy ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 12:03:12 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: *etheridge* RE: Copyright? >>> Mike Lieman 02/23/98 06:20am >>> asks: >Just to be a wet blanket, isn't all this chatter about WHERE TO BUY >ILLEGAL RECORDINGS (i.e.: violating the NON-COMMERCIAL, >HOME-USE ONLY precept of Taping) prohibited in the lists rules? Interesting observation...but all that was posted was the URL of a site that sells bootlegs, followed by scores of 'wet blankets' that smothered any chances of Tunnel ever getting an order from me (nor many other folks on the list, I would imagine). The guidelines state that *selling* MLE items for profit *on the list* is not allowed. There are a few commercial vendors who post to the list and have been asked to please only list URL's when advertising what they feel will be of interest to the list (Thunder Road Books, for example). It is also stated that if a lister has items to sell for fair-market value (ie, if someone is letting go of some CD's or other memorabilia for the price they paid for it), that they are to ask permission from the list-owners before posting to the list (I would imagine that 9 times out of 10, a request of this nature will be approved). As for 'Home Use Taping', Mike, we've had this discussion before (as a list) and I still maintain that, with the exception of tapes made at a shows where performers *allow* and *encourage* taping, most of the tapes (including your's) are made illegally to begin with (if you want to get right down to brass tacks and talk about the legality of such situations...regardless of what you do with the tape, it's still not legal (in most cases)--you're just not making a profit off of it). I understand your frustration at the thought of someone making a tape of a show, as you do, and putting the recording on a 15-cent CD and making a huge profit off of it. And I understand that there are artists who detest the fact that bootleg CDs of their work exist. My personal standard tells me that the bootlegging and selling of previously commercially released material is the issue that is of the greatest importance. Many performers feel honored that their live performances are captured on 'boots' and have no problem with it. List members have speculated from time-to-time that perhaps MLE (and other artists) refrain from releasing live performances on the commercial market because so many live boots exist. I don't agree with this, as I feel that if someone goes to the lengths to shell out big bucks for boots, they'll purchase the commercial release as a fan/collector (witness the *excellent* quality IG's live commercial release and the more recent Fleetwood Mac CD). It has been my own impression, based on past interviews, that MLE doesn't necessarily approve of boots of her performances (although she said she enjoyed the Bonsoir Montreal boot), but that it's sort of a sign that an artist 'has arrived'...that it's an honor that someone would go to the trouble of making the boot and that fans would plop down twice what a commercial CD sells for to obtain the material. It's all a matter of opinion and how you look at each individual situation, IMO. But if you're going to rant and rave about illegal recordings, just remember that little disclaimer on the front of most of the tickets you buy for the shows that you tape... jen--owner and enjoyer of both boots and show tapes - --------- Never face facts; if you do you'll never get up in the morning. -Marlo Thomas ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:01:35 -0700 From: betasurely@lesbois.com Subject: *etheridge* Duets/Sophie B., etc The list had a discussion on this topic a while ago, but hey, I like reminiscing. IMHO, Sohpie was overdoing it, Melissa seemed uncomfortable with her. OTOH, Jewel looked totally crushed out on Melissa, and Melissa seemed, hmm, like treating her like a younger sister? -marcy - -- "Life is full of wonder, love is never wrong." M.L. Etheridge http://www.lesbois.com/betasurely ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 12:58:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Melissa Font (USF)" Subject: *etheridge* Duets I don't know...I kind of felt like Sophie was very Excited to see Melissa LIke when she was in kissing Distance from MLE's face singing "Damn, I wish I was your lover" who knows, perhaps she has a crush on Melissa? ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 12:42:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Melissa Font (USF)" Subject: Re: *etheridge* "I want You" I would have to say that MLE's self titled album has got to be my all time favorite..I love "I want you". It's the kind of song that has me dancing around in my tiny dorm room singing as loud as I can playing my air guitar and throwing my hair around...I have never seen MLE in concert..but I would love to watch her play this song...The power and the sexuality that Melissa eminates is absolutely overwhelming.....Well that's all for now...perhaps I should go home and listen to it..and I 'll have more comments about it. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:55:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Kim Christie Subject: *etheridge* NMEC:Tunnel Records For those of you who have had/are having trouble with getting merchandise from Tunnel Records, just thought you might like to know that there are federal and state laws governing their (mis)conduct. Under the FTC's "Mail Order Rule" (which includes mail, phone, computer, and fax orders), once a vendor charges an item to your card, it is deemed to be a "properly completed order", and they are required by law to ship this merchandise to you within a time frame stated or advertised, or if none is stated or advertised, within 30 days of charging the item to you. If you'd like more details about product fulfillment responsibilities, the site I gleaned this info from is: www.webcom.com/lewrose/article/product.htm Might even be a good idea to e-mail them (and MEIN too!) with a copy of their "product fulfillment responsibilities". Hope this is helpful for those who wish to pursue it further! KC who wishes Jen would let her know the next time she's coming to Atlanta... ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:28:52 -0500 From: bed1@psu.edu (Beth Durff) Subject: *etheridge* Terri Clark, Shanks, Sarah McLachlan - SMEC "Anneke Rader" wrote: >Now I could be wrong in saying this, but I heard from a friend a while >back that Melissa did a duet of her song 'You Can Sleep While I Drive' >with both K.D. Lang and country singer, Terri Clark. Both at individual >times, of course. Is this true or false? Yes... Melissa did indeed do a duet of YCSWID with Terri Clark at the Memphis show (11/96). Melissa was up on the second stage and introduced Terri Clark right out of the blue (apparently Terri is a big ME fan). You should've heard the audience screams - I had chills... *and* a nice big hug from Terri Clark to go along with them btw !! It's really a treat when surprises like that happen. I don't know anyone who recorded this show, but who knows - there may be someone out there with a boot. If you're interested, I'm sure you can get photos. You can read more about Terri's appearance if you check the archives dated around 11/25/96 - I know some of my fellow list buds travelled from far and wide to see ME in Memphis, just as I did - and posted when they got home. Which brings me to the recent list discussion on Shanks (sorry if this topic has already been run into the ground - I'm still way behind on email)... I had always been one of those people who thought that he was (basically) a jerk and that his stage presence seemed rather arrogant. Then I met him in Memphis (same show as above). Both John and Kenny came outside after the concert - each signed autographs and posed for pictures - and both couldn't have been nicer. I have a terrific close-up pic of John Shanks and myself (which will be on my web page one of these days). The John Shanks that I saw on stage was my *perception* of who I *thought* he was, and what I *thought* he was about. My opinion of him really changed after that experience... and it caused me to begin to think about how the HDCM has experienced this in her own life... How people can form opinions without really knowing anything about you... and really reinforcing that old saying - you can't judge a book by it's cover. Next subject - for Sarah McLachlan fans: upcoming tv appearances: Tue 2/24 11:35 PM EST (CBS) Letterman Sat 2/28 10:00 PM EST (VH1) Storytellers (Sarah w/ Paula Cole) Finally, a BIG thanks to those people who called and sent cards and emails when I was sick and in the hospital for so long over the holidays. In particular - thanks to Kathrin Siegmund who shares my birthday, to Kathy St Germain and Carlos Flores for the animated greeting cards, and to Randy for checking up on me now and then to make sure I was/am still (barely) breathing !!! Beth (the sometimes down but never out - - tassel flashing, shirt off-your-back winning, Demi/Ellen look-alike, Honda-driving chick magnet , Pennsylvanian PSUer who's slowly recovering and getting back on track again) P.S. Did I mention that I'm NEWLY TATTOOED????!!!! YES I AM!!! It's HUGE. Okay, okay, it's not HUGE - but it's bigger than Randy's . And BTW Randy - that little wussy episode that you went through to get yours - you remember - how you had a little help from the ole' rock-n-rye out in the parking lot? how you turned as white as a ghost - looking like you could spew at any minute? Well honey, all I did during the fact was chew gum and start planning the next one... Piece of cake baby, piece of cake !!! GO BLUE - PSU ("\''/").___..--'''"-._ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' `--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' ((!).-'' ((!).' ((!).-' WE ARRRRRRRR...PENN STATE!!! ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 20:47:53 -0800 From: Randy Subject: Re: *etheridge* Terri Clark, Shanks, Sarah McLachlan - SMEC Beth Durff wrote: > Germain and Carlos Flores for the animated greeting cards, and to Randy for > checking up on me now and then to make sure I was/am still (barely) > breathing !!! Well, glad to see that you are still ALIVE...I was beginning to have serious doubts about that! > P.S. Did I mention that I'm NEWLY TATTOOED???? HEY! You promised _I_ could go along and hold the spew can for YOU on that quest! > Randy - that little wussy episode that you went through to get yours - you > remember - how you had a little help from the ole' rock-n-rye out in the > parking lot? how you turned as white as a ghost - looking like you could > spew at any minute? Yeah, I remember...I also remember how YOU did not venture far from the 'can' WHILE I was getting _my_ tat done! You had a hard time watching, AND keeping your breakfast down... > Piece of cake baby, piece of cake !!! Cool. I'm glad you're feeling better....missed you on the list.... - -- Randy 82496, 71297 Love With Perfect Clarity....SueD ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 00:57:03 EST From: KUKULSKI@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* same old same old Ya' know, I really have to say something here regarding all the bootleg discusion ~ I've been trying to bite my lip on this issue for some time now, but ever since it's been a topic of focus on this list, and drawn out for such 'a long time' ... it's been really bothering me ... so I must add my .02! Firstly, if it's such a 'wrong doing' ... why is the security at most concert venues so leniant on their gate search regulations! Nine times outta ten, when we attend concerts ~ they don't even 'ask' you if you're bagging any recording componets, let alone attempt to investigate purses, duffle bags, etc. Sure, they have the posted signs and all to stipulate these 'no no's'...but yah right, who pays attention to em'! And as for the performers ... I believe that it's a ego charge for em'! In knowing that there's folks out there that are so in-tuned to their performance who endulge themselves in taking the time and the risk to make these recordings. I mean not in the sense where the performer would ever condone such behavior as to the slimeballs who want to 'make a quick buck' .....but to those of us who: possess a strong following stance, those of us who simply do it to share our interests, our excitement and experiences that are captured at these shows! I don't see any performer having 'a beef' about constructive booting! I mean, com'mon even Melissa herself makes the comment "this is gunna make a great boot" on one of her particular cd's! Give it a rest folks ... it's out there ... it's happening ... and it won't subside! "A boot fanatic" ~ Kay ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:58:13 -0600 From: "Patty Kolakowski" Subject: *etheridge* Duets Hi, > Also, why didn't Sophie join the group at the end rather than play the drum and why didn't she sing > a MLE song with Melissa. I wondered that too and I read somewhere that Sophie does not like to sing other songwriter's songs. I had never seen her perform before and I thought she was goofy. I'm not too sorry they didn't sing a Melissa song together. I'm afraid if they sang a sexy song like "Don't you Need" she may have really acted nuts. You can tell Melissa shot Julie a few "it's not my fault" looks during Damn I Wish I Was your Lover. pk ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 01:15:30 EST From: KUKULSKI@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* 'You Go Girl' Thanx Chris! I just think that music {in any capacity} is here for EVERYONE to enjoy ... not just for those of us who are lucky enough to pick a boot up here n' there solely for ourselves! Let's share people! Sheesh! For goodnees sake we're only on this world for a limited time, lets enjoy ourselves n' others! Stop shoving stupid copyright regulations down each others throats! "K" ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 23:06:57 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* bootlegs (NMLEC) KUKULSKI@aol.com wrote: > Firstly, if it's such a 'wrong doing' ... why is the security at most concert > venues so leniant on their gate search regulations! Nine times outta ten, > when we attend concerts ~ they don't even 'ask' you if you're bagging any > recording componets, let alone attempt to investigate purses, duffle bags, > etc. Sure, they have the posted signs and all to stipulate these 'no > no's'...but yah right, who pays attention to em'! in my experience, it really depends on the venue you're going to and the artist you're seeing. as recently as last december, when i was in vancouver and seattle for the U2 concerts, i had to raise my arms while the security guards frisked me all the way down to my ankles. i was also patted around my waist, and had to open my purse up for inspection. however, i was barely touched by security for the U2 shows i saw in oakland and LA in june 1997. during our YCSWID tour in december 1996, jib and i didn't really suffer through much of a security patdown at any of the venues. whew! ;-) i know of at least one list member (hi, john!) who has had his gear confiscated at the door of a local bay area venue (i affectionately called it his "shawn colvin curse", which thankfully was broken the third time we saw her together ). when i had front row seats (not that i'm gloating, mind you :-) ) to bruce springsteen's 10/26/96 john steinbeck research center benefit at the san jose state event center, the guy sitting next to me accidentally dropped his non-recording walkman onto the floor before the show even started, and the security guards were all over him like flies to honey. > I mean, com'mon even Melissa herself makes the comment "this is > gunna make a great boot" on one of her particular cd's! well, i'm assuming that MLE made that comment because she realized that since the 2/96 cologne show was going to be broadcast over the radio, it probably *would* be made into a boot. if i recall correctly, she was responding to the audience who was swaying because it was so damned crowded or something like that (holger? nicole? michael? satsanga?). > I just think that music {in any capacity} is here for EVERYONE to > enjoy ... not just for those of us who are lucky enough to pick a > boot up here n' there solely for ourselves! Let's share people! > Sheesh! For goodnees sake we're only on this world for a limited > time, lets enjoy ourselves n' others! Stop shoving stupid > copyright regulations down each others throats! but the fact remains that taping whether for your own private use or for you to turn into piles and piles of boot CDs is still illegal. many artists such as the dave matthews' band, the allman bros. band, phish, and the dearly departed grateful dead allowed people to openly tape their shows as long as people just traded them and didn't sell them for profit. that doesn't mean it was *legal*, it just means that they allowed it to happen. because of its illegality, i know people who refuse to own boots or show tapes. personally, while i own boots and show tapes for MLE (and several other artists), i rationalize it to myself because i buy every commercially available product for her. but i *know* it's illegal. contrary to your opinion, however, i think a discussion of copyright law and its ramifications is *very* valid to our current discussion on boots. there may be some new listers out there who may be trying to decide whether they want to own boots or not, so how can they make this decision without information from all sides of the discussion? while we're talking about boots, has anyone ever uncovered a tape of the 10/96 milwaukee (?) show when MLE sang "pink cadillac" with bruce? i'd probably chop off my left arm for a copy of that show. ;-) *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 03:49:49 -0500 From: mystichawk@juno.com (Margo L Gresham) Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #374 Anneke, I know that Melissa did a duet of YCSWID with K.D. but haven't heard about one with Terri Clark. Would love to know though! The one with KD was on a benefit that I believe was on VH1 but not positive. It is also available on a boot but unfortunately I can't tell U the name of boot either. I taped it off a CD that belonged to a former friend. Sorry I can't be more help. Namaste, Hawk _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #375 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #376 Date: February 26, 1998 3:55 AM etheridge-digest Thursday, February 26 1998 Volume 01 : Number 376 *etheridge* Re: same old same old ["Kate Blackmon" ] *etheridge* boots ["Bonnie Phillips" ] *etheridge* Sting and melissa (fwd) [Kristine Sommen ] *etheridge* (NMEC) I've Got Two Words For You... [03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu] *etheridge* The Grammys and to all Michigan MLE fans!! ["Anneke Rader" Subject: *etheridge* Re: same old same old KUKULSKI@aol.com wrote about the subject of illegal taping: > Firstly, if it's such a 'wrong doing' ... why is the security at most concert > venues so leniant on their gate search regulations! Nine times outta ten, > when we attend concerts ~ they don't even 'ask' you if you're bagging any > recording componets, let alone attempt to investigate purses, duffle bags, > etc. Sure, they have the posted signs and all to stipulate these 'no > no's'...but yah right, who pays attention to em'! > I totally agree! I can think of many similar circumstances where the same kinda thing goes on. Like, if I'm not supposed to shoplift records down at HMV or Virgin, why don't they strip search me on the way in and out? Or, if I'm not supposed to carry live explosives on the #13 bus, why doesn't the conductor look in my book bag? Or, if your doors aren't locked, why can't I come in and borrow your CD collection? > And as for the performers ... I believe that it's a ego charge for > em'! In knowing that there's folks out there that are so in-tuned > to their performance who endulge themselves in taking the time and > the risk to make these recordings. I mean not in the sense where > the performer would ever condone such behavior as to the slimeballs > who want to 'make a quick buck' .....but to those of us who: > possess a strong following stance, those of us who simply do it to > share our interests, our excitement and experiences that are > captured at these shows! I don't see any performer having 'a beef' > about constructive booting! I totally agree again!!! Although I don't perform music anymore (at least in public), I'm like totally flattered when someone uses my research without citing where they got it from. Especially if it hasn't been published yet -- it's really constructive for me to know that someone's taking the time to read what I'm doing. So it must be a real ego charge for someone who performs music for a living to know that ten times as many people can hear a show over 'n over again than actually paid to attend it! > we're only on this world for a limited time, lets enjoy ourselves n' > others! Stop shoving stupid copyright regulations down each others > throats! Yep ... what good do they do anyway? Property is theft, man. It's just a ploy by the lawyers to keep us from doing what makes sense, whenever we like, wherever we like. Power to the (taping) people! Kate - --- ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 09:01:02 PST From: "Bonnie Phillips" Subject: *etheridge* boots Jenniffer Smith wrote: >frustration at the thought of someone making a tape of a show, as you >do, and putting the recording on a 15-cent CD and making a huge profit >off of it. And I understand that there are artists who detest the Yeah, he's so frustrated that whenever anybody wants to sell a CD (presumably because they have an extra copy or need money), he asks them to tree it. And he gets involved in trees of CDs. >bootleg CDs of their work exist. My personal standard tells me that the >bootlegging and selling of previously commercially released material I have more of a problem with the "previously commercially released" material. I realize that CD singles can be expensive and for some artists, eg. Tori Amos, numerous but I have a problem with a bootleg CD that contains the "B" sides of singles (I saw one at a show this past weekend. Even worse I saw a tape - not a pre-recorded cassette - of her album, "Little Earthquakes"). KUKULSKI@aol.com wrote: >Firstly, if it's such a 'wrong doing' ... why is the security at most concert >venues so leniant on their gate search regulations! Nine times outta I guess you've never been frisked or had a metal detector passed over your body and your backpack (or whatever you carry in to a show, if you do). Though it's more likely they're looking for glass or something that can be thrown at the performer and do damage, like purple socks. :-) Bonnie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:09:39 +0100 (MET) From: Kristine Sommen Subject: *etheridge* Sting and melissa (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 25 Feb 98 10:18 CST From: Jason Daly To: Receipt Notification Requested Subject: Sting and melissa _ << Does anyone know where I can find a live version of Sting and Melissa Etheridge singing "Every Breath You Take?" >> ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 1998 13:02:33 -0600 From: SHARON.A.ROUW@monsanto.com Subject: *etheridge* legal-schmegal :) Hi all, Just writing to throw in my $1 (cost of living, and thereby thinking, increase) on this turn through the bootleg discussion. Rhondda wrote: >because of its illegality, i know people who refuse to own boots or show tapes. personally, while i own boots and show tapes for MLE (and several other artists), i rationalize it to myself because i buy every commercially available product for her. but i *know* it's illegal. I am *definitely* one of those people who refuse to own boots, and I rationalize it in a similar way as Rhondda. But I take it a bit further, because I not only rationalize, I *believe*. There is a difference between illegal and unethical, and I don't think that owning bootlegs is unethical in the case of a devoted fan. How many of us own all of MLE's commercial CDs? How many concerts do some of us go to per tour? Do you not go because you think that you can just pick up a boot of it later? NO!!! It's "never enough." We want the boots too. Why? Because MLE is an awesome performer, and that is not always captured on studio recordings. Because we crave the interaction she has with the audience. Because the performance of songs differs from one concert to another. I would be ecstatic if MLE started commercially releasing several concerts from each tour. It would sure be easier to find them and a whole lot cheaper!!! :) Bootlegs do not hurt an artist when they are in the hands of fans. Now ask me if I got mad when a friend of mine (who owns nothing of MLE) bought a boot of the MTV Unplugged show--YES! So I can understand why bootlegging is illegal, but personally, I am not going to stop seeking boots until MLE starts releasing some live stuff. Or until she moves in with me and sings and plays for me every day, but I doubt that will happen soon. ;) Sharon, who would have to move to another state to be legal ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:37:20 EST From: MESECRETS@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* another question......... Hey everyone :) I have another question that I need answered and hoped that someone on the list could help me. I love the YLS video, especially when the guys/gals are climbing the mountain of people.....can anyone tell me how they climb this mountain of people......and, more importantly, how did they get the one girl to fall from the top? This intrigues me immensely......................thanks......................michelle ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:10:41 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* YCSWID duet, boots, purple socks, bras, sharing "Anneke Rader" asked: > Now I could be wrong in saying this, but I heard from a friend > a while back that Melissa did a duet of her song 'You Can Sleep > While I Drive' with both K.D. Lang and country singer, Terri Clark. > Both at individual times, of course. Is this true or false? If it > is true, could you please email me and tell me where I could find > either and/or both of these recordings? I would appreciate it. and Kristine Sommen asked on behalf of Jason Daly : _ > << Does anyone know where I can find a live version of Sting and > Melissa Etheridge singing "Every Breath You Take?" >> well, beth's already told you about the terri clark duet (welcome back, beth!). there are a few boots of k.d. lang's YCSWID duet with MLE from the LifeBEAT show in 6/94, namely "set yourself free", "the power in me", and "the only one". "the only one" also has MLE's duet with sting on EBYT. some of these boots are easier to find than others, so in the alternative, you could send a request for trades to the list for any of these boots. k.d. also did a YCSWID duet with MLE at the NYC "ridge" show, which is a favorite of mine, not only for the awesome duet, but also for the added special screaming of a particular female list owner (waving to seattle ). ;-) FYI...if you have any questions about MLE CD boots, check out deb's bootleg list at http://www.mindspring.com/~indigo/me_boots.html. ================ "Bonnie Phillips" wrote: > Though it's more likely they're looking for glass or something > that can be thrown at the performer and do damage, like purple > socks. :-) and with the added weight of a personally inscribed note, those purple socks can be lethal weapons. of course, nothing strikes fear into MLE or her security guards more than a carefully aimed bra. just ask margo! ;-) ================ "Kate Blackmon" wrote: > Like, if I'm not supposed to shoplift records down at HMV or Virgin, unless you're looking for chumbawamba's album, "tubthumper". then, feel free to grab as many copies as you can stuff into your backpack. ;-) > Or, if your doors aren't locked, why can't I come in and borrow > your CD collection? of course, in some alternative universes, this is known as "sharing". welcome back, kate! i've missed you! hugs to sarah, as well. :-) *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:41:29 -0500 From: Aymee Subject: *etheridge* Duets and Boots >. . . You can tell Melissa shot Julie a few "it's not my >fault" looks during Damn I Wish I Was your Lover. > >pk I didn't realize Julie was there. That must have been a delight for her to have to sit through. I can't imagine what good reason Sophie would have for doing that to them. Personally, I was rather embarrassed for her. (I'm sure she cares what I think too :) ) Ah well, bootlegs . . . I thought someone, somewhere said that ME had in fact stated that she didn't really mind boots because she felt the fans who bought boots would most likely have bought the commercially released stuff anyway. In my case I have 3 copies of each - 1 to listen to, 1 for when the 1st one wears out, and 1 to shove at anyone who will listen. I'll have to admit I buy boots because I can't get enough and I MISS ME!! 1999 is a long, long way away and the likelihood of a benefit concert in GA is a long shot at best. My .02 which won't buy one song. Mel . . .who's hoping MEIN has a travel package in the Southeast US for the next tour ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:21:42 -0500 (EST) From: 03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: *etheridge* (NMEC) I've Got Two Words For You... A-R-E-T-H-A...F-R-A-N-K-L-I-N ...'nuff said jen--still reeling from that performance and damn glad she taped the Grammys... - ----- Jenniffer Smith | 03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu | "I Believe Bill!" Ball State University | Muncie IN | My opinions bear no resemblance whatsoever to those of my employer ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:44:57 PST From: "Anneke Rader" Subject: *etheridge* The Grammys and to all Michigan MLE fans!! Hi everyone, I know this has nothing to do with Melissa and I apologize. But I just had to post this.... So, what did you all think of the Grammys that were on Feb. 25th? Overall, I thought the performances were great and the artists who won the awards deserved them. That is all I am going to say on that subject. Now, I have one last thing to say and then I am done. Here goes.... ATTENTION ALL MICHIGAN MLE FANS: Due to unforseen circumstances (my email account's password being changed without my knowledge and me having to go back and remember EVERY password I have used since I created the account) I have lost the email addys of those Michigan MLE fans I may have been corresponding with. So, if you would be so kind as to send them my way again, I would appreciate it. Thanks!! And for those Michigan MLE fans who haven't sent me their email addys, please do so. Who knows, we may meet up at an MLE concert one day. Well, that is all I have to say for right now. Take care and KIP!! Anneke ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:55:45 -0700 (MST) From: Imchat2@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* internet services customer feedback site I got this info. from a different digest but thought it was pertinent to our discussion along the lines of Tunnel Records, etc. "Those of you wondering about different companies on the web might want to check out www.bizrate.com. They evaluate these companies and rate them based on customer feedback." Chatadict2@aol.com AKa ImChat2@aol.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:17:04 EST From: JLUCKY7@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* These boots are made for walking.... In a message dated 98-02-26 00:11:18 EST, Mel writes: > I thought someone, somewhere said that ME had in > fact stated that she didn't really mind boots because she felt the fans who > bought boots would most likely have bought the commercially released stuff > anyway. Yup, MLE said (I think the interview was on Rockline right before the YLS tour in the US, but don't quote me on that! ) that she has mixed feelings about bootlegs. She said, on the one hand, that they cheat people who work hard out of money that's rightfully theirs...herself, other musicians, her record company, etc. But she said that fans who merely share homemade tapes to trade, with nobody making any money on it, doesn't really bother her. She said these fans have probably already bought her legitimate recordings anyway. I think she also said pretty much this same thing in an online chat on Compuserve some years ago too. I once even heard a rumor that an old friend of Melissa's in Atlanta went into Rainy Day Records and bought five CD MLE bootlegs....because MLE wanted copies, supposedly. Don't know if that's true though. ;-) Joyce ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 00:13:13 -0700 (MST) From: "Anne E. Zachritz" Subject: *etheridge* new home email address I have a new email address, effective immediately (so don't send mail to anne@ionet.net!). The new address is anne@accessacg.net. You can also reach me at annezachritz@niemeyerfirm.com. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 03:37:27 -0500 From: mystichawk@juno.com (Margo L Gresham) Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #375 JOHN SHANKS I have apparently missed many of the posts regarding Shanks. I have gathered from what little I've read that he is not very popular on the list. I'm just curious about why so many of you dislike him. To me he seems to be quite talented, he knows when to stay in the background and he never tries to upstage MLE. He has been with her for years and she even refers to him frequently as her "soul mate". I could see why some people might think that he is arrogant but, in reality, he just seems to be very shy. I too am shy and people often mistake that for arrogance. So, can someone please tell me why so many of you don't like him? If he's good enough for Melissa, he's good enough for me! Namaste, Hawk _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 03:57:51 EST From: KUKULSKI@aol.com Subject: Re: *etheridge* These boots are made for walking.... In a message dated 98-02-26 03:51:19 EST, Joice writes: << Yup, MLE said (I think the interview was on Rockline right before the YLS tour in the US, but don't quote me on that! ) that she has mixed feelings about bootlegs. She said, on the one hand, that they cheat people who work hard out of money that's rightfully theirs...herself, other musicians, her record company, etc. But she said that fans who merely share homemade tapes to trade, with nobody making any money on it, doesn't really bother her. She said these fans have probably already bought her legitimate recordings anyway. I think she also said pretty much this same thing in an online chat on Compuserve some years ago too. I once even heard a rumor that an old friend of Melissa's in Atlanta went into Rainy Day Records and bought five CD MLE bootlegs....because MLE wanted copies, supposedly. Don't know if that's true though. ;-) Joyce > {{{{{{{{Thank You Joyce!}}}}}}} There ain't nothin' wrong with sharing your interests w/others! ~~~~Kay~~~~ ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #376 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@Majordomo.Esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #377 Date: February 27, 1998 3:41 AM etheridge-digest Friday, February 27 1998 Volume 01 : Number 377 *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #376 [RinER2001@aol.com] *etheridge* sting and melissa [Saninuj Malayaman ] *etheridge* Grammys?? ["Alex Yeomans" ] *etheridge* MLE's New Album [Damon M Glenn ] *etheridge* (NMEC) RE: Grammys?? [Jenniffer Smith ] *etheridge* (NMEC) Grammys - "soy bomb" [Rhondda Ashby ] *etheridge* Re: (NMEC) Grammys - "soy bomb" [03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:09:21 EST From: RinER2001@aol.com Subject: *etheridge* Re: etheridge-digest V1 #376 hey there all!!!! well i too have wonndered about the YLS video and how they did the "mt of people" i always thought that it was done like this: all those people were really laying down and the girl climbing on them was acctually crawing on them! and it was all just the angle of the camara! now when it comes to her falling i stupped but we all know that computers now a days can do wonders!! ;) everyone take care and keep speaking true!! erin =) ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:04:04 -0500 (EST) From: Saninuj Malayaman Subject: *etheridge* sting and melissa Date: 25 Feb 98 10:18 CST From: Jason Daly To: Receipt Notification Requested Subject: Sting and melissa _ << Does anyone know where I can find a live version of Sting and Melissa Etheridge singing "Every Breath You Take?" >> In resonse, if you are more of a Sting fan, you can also try to find these boots "King of New Jersey" and "Meadowlands of Gold" Hope that helps. - -Nini ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:18:19 -0500 From: Colleen Lanthrip Subject: *etheridge* shirts i have been off the digest for a while due to a number of reasons....and i'm afraid i may have missed the opportunity for the shirts. would someone respond to me and let me know? otherwise, its nice to be back to some sanity and for those that recognize my name: hello! colleen ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:51:09 PST From: "Alex Yeomans" Subject: *etheridge* Grammys?? For us slow aussies, we don't get to see the Grammy's till tomorrow night here.....I did hear however on the news that the whole show was a bit of a circus. There were so many stuffups and problems, including Pavarotti no show. Is is true that Aretha filled in for him??? Just quickly on ME's new album and tour, I guess we will see her down under after she has toured the states, which is good, it will give me time to stock up on purple socks! *G* Alex. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 15:09:05 -0600 (CST) From: Damon M Glenn Subject: *etheridge* MLE's New Album Hi Gang, I guess i'm a little behind. Can anybody tell me what the new album is called, when it's scheduled to be released. Thanks KIP Play safe & Rock hard Damon G. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:37:02 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: *etheridge* (NMEC) RE: Grammys?? >>> "Alex Yeomans" 02/26/98 03:51pm >>> wrote: >I did hear however on the news that the whole show was a >bit of a circus. No worse than any other Grammy show, really. A member of the Wu Tang Clan (I hope I'm spelling that right) jumped up on stage as Shawn Colvin was accepting her first award of the evening to make a statement about Wu Tang's mission or purpose or something like that. Vanessa Williams was almost killed ("You bastards!") when she came out onto the stage and walked over a part of the stage that was coming up on hydraulics...Chris Rock saved her, though...and proceeded to hang all over her (IMO). As usual, I didn't think the songs that should've won came out on top. :-) >including Pavarotti no show. Is is true that Aretha filled in for him??? Luciano evidently was suffering from a very sore throat and his doctor made him skip. Aretha did *indeed* fill in for him and did a beautiful job! I've watched the tape twice since the live airing and the hairs stould up on my arms all three times. She performed the same number at some other function last week, but I can't remember where. jen - ----- Any girl can be glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid. --Hedy Lamarr ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:58:29 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: *etheridge* (NMEC) Grammys - "soy bomb" Jenniffer Smith wrote: > No worse than any other Grammy show, really. A member of the Wu > Tang Clan (I hope I'm spelling that right) jumped up on stage as Shawn > Colvin was accepting her first award of the evening to make a statement > about Wu Tang's mission or purpose or something like that. don't forget about the skinny "soy bomb" guy! i was watching bob dylan's performance off and on, knowing that since i was taping it anyway, i could always watch it later. i noticed the "soy bomb" guy's silly dance, and thought, "hmm...is bob making another anti-war statement a la his 'masters of war' performance during the 1991 grammy's?" bob didn't seem to be reacting much at all to this guy, so it seemed to be part of his show. of course, when i saw it later on the news, then i realized that the "soy bomb" dude was just another stage crasher. has anyone figured out the significance of "soy bomb" anyway? or was it just some lunatic clamoring for attention? *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 16:13:02 -0600 (CST) From: Damon M Glenn Subject: Re: *etheridge* (NMEC) Grammys - "soy bomb" Hi Everybody, Doesn't anybody think the Grammys are just going a little over board with some of the things that goes on there. Cause it seems to me that this get a little dumber every year. Play safe & rock hard Damon G. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:00:13 -1000 From: Lori Ann Subject: Re: *etheridge* (NMEC) Grammys - "soy bomb" Rhondda Ashby wrote: > has anyone figured out the significance of "soy bomb" anyway? or > was it just some lunatic clamoring for attention? Well, a bunch of people on the Indigo Girls list seem to think that this was some IG fan, y'know, Shame On You, SOY, yeah, you get the picture. And considering that Dylan won Best Contemporary Folk Album, the only category the girls were nominated in. But a more likely explanation is, soy in spanish means I am, and bomb in english is, well, bomb, so probably this is some dummy "lunatic clamoring for attention" in a couple of languages. Or maybe it's a guy who doesn't like soy beans and soy bean products (like tofu :) that's all from me before i start complaining bout poor Paula only winning ONE award and Paula, Shawn, and Sarah only getting one MINUTE each of performance time while will smith got to do two SONGS. Lori ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 20:01:30 -0500 (EST) From: 03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: *etheridge* Re: (NMEC) Grammys - "soy bomb" Lori Ann wrote: >Paula, Shawn, and Sarah only getting one MINUTE each of >performance time I agree...it would have been nice if they each could've performed an entire number (although I can't stand Paula...). I must say that I think Sarah comes pretty durn close to 'playing those eyes' about as well as MLE, however. >while will smith got to do two SONGS. I suppose this means that you wouldn't agree with me that R. Kelly should've won over Shawn for record of the year? ;-) jen -- logging off to go watch 'Friends' - ----- Jenniffer Smith | 03jesmith@bsuvc.bsu.edu | "I Believe Bill!" Ball State University | Muncie IN | My opinions bear no resemblance whatsoever to those of my employer ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #377 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #378 Date: February 28, 1998 4:18 AM etheridge-digest Saturday, February 28 1998 Volume 01 : Number 378 *etheridge* list archives [SHARON.A.ROUW@monsanto.com] *etheridge* Melissa "Sighting" [Jennifer Jensen ] *etheridge* RE: Melissa "Sighting" [Jenniffer Smith ] *etheridge* NMEC: Soy Bomb [Copybuff ] Re: *etheridge* Melissa "Sighting" [Shel Kilts ] Re: *etheridge* Melissa "Sighting" [Vegashill ] RE: *etheridge* legal-schmegal :) [Martina Crevecoeur ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Feb 1998 09:12:08 -0600 From: SHARON.A.ROUW@monsanto.com Subject: *etheridge* list archives Hi listers, Here's my thought for the day (yep, only allowed one per day :)): How about setting up a search on the list archives? What do you all think? Glenna? Being only computer literate enough to get my work done, I don't know what this would involve. I just know that it would be great for people like me who would like to look stuff up there, but cannot remember when a certain topic was discussed. (You would think that with only one thought per day, I would have more brain space open for such things! :)) Signing off, Sharon ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 09:34:29 -0500 From: Jennifer Jensen Subject: *etheridge* Melissa "Sighting" My boyfriend and I were watching TV last night. A commercial for the movie "Good Will Hunting" came on. I wasn't paying attention (I've seen the movie twice) until I realized they were playing a Melissa song. At this point, the commercial was over. I have no idea what song it was, it just hit me that I was hearing her voice. Sorry I don't have more information! J. - ----------------------------------- jenniferj@quill.net jjense03@hercules.baker.edu ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:48:34 -0500 From: Jenniffer Smith Subject: *etheridge* RE: Melissa "Sighting" >>> Jennifer Jensen 02/27/98 09:34am >>> wrote: >A commercial for the movie "Good Will Hunting" came on. I wasn't >paying attention (I've seen the movie twice) until I realized they were >playing a Melissa song. At this point, the commercial was over. I have >no idea what song it was The song was 'Dance Without Sleeping' and, as is the case with many movie promos these days, DWS was included in neither the movie nor on the soundtrack. jen -- who thinks that DWS would've fit nicely as background music in both the scene where Will's friend discovers that Will has left and then continuing on into the end shot of Will driving on the highway. - ---- Don't mind my driving...I'm reloading. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:42:52 EST From: Copybuff Subject: *etheridge* NMEC: Soy Bomb <> I saw the guy interviewed on the news. If I remember correctly, he's a performance artist (color me surprised) and he said that soy is something dense and rich, and a bomb is explosive, so it meant that his art is explosively dense, or something just as ridiculous. He was actually being paid ($200) to stand behind Dylan like the other guys in black as part of the "surroundings" during the song, but he decided this was his chance to ... make a jerk of himself, yeah that's it. Diane B. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:46:00 -0800 From: Shel Kilts Subject: Re: *etheridge* Melissa "Sighting" At 09:34 AM 2/27/98 -0500, Jennifer Jensen wrote: >My boyfriend and I were watching TV last night. A commercial for the movie >"Good Will Hunting" came on. I wasn't paying attention (I've seen the movie >twice) until I realized they were playing a Melissa song. At this point, >the commercial was over. I have no idea what song it was, it just hit me >that I was hearing her voice. >Sorry I don't have more information! >J. I haven't seen that commercial in a while (I only watch 2 hours of TV a week, and it's all on Sunday night), but I believe it's 'Dance Without Sleeping.' I could be wrong, though, or misremembering. It's happened a time or two... Shel - -- Shel Tozer-Kilts chantry@jetcity.com "It's destiny we met The simple truth is always the best Don't you see, what's done is done There's somebody for everyone" -- Shawn Colvin, "The Facts About Jimmy" ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:14:13 -0600 From: PDM-1@webtv.net (pdm) Subject: *etheridge* Etheridge radio interview Can someone please e-mail me the address of the MLE radio interview. It seems I have misplaced (or erased) somewhere. thanx ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:15:41 -0800 From: "Glenna Johnson" Subject: Re: *etheridge* list archives SHARON.A.ROUW@monsanto.com wrote: > Here's my thought for the day (yep, only allowed one per day :)): > How about setting up a search on the list archives? What do you all > think? Glenna? Being only computer literate enough to get my work > done, I don't know what this would involve. I just know that it would > be great for people like me who would like to look stuff up there, but > cannot remember when a certain topic was discussed. (You would think > that with only one thought per day, I would have more brain space open > for such things! :)) It would be doable, but not on its current server. I may be moving the entire site at some point to another server, in which case I would probably set up a site-wide search (and maybe a separate archives search). Take care, all! Glenna ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 00:50:16 EST From: Vegashill Subject: Re: *etheridge* Melissa "Sighting" The song in the commercial is "Dance Without Sleeping" I've heard that the movie "Good Will Hunting" is wonderful....Anything with a ME song is wonderful!!! :) Hilary ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:17:21 +0100 From: Martina Crevecoeur Subject: RE: *etheridge* legal-schmegal :) Sharon threw in her $ 1 on boots <> and << Now ask me if I got mad when a friend of mine (who owns nothing of=20 MLE) bought a boot of the MTV Unplugged show--YES!>> Hmmm, so someone who's not a devoted fan of MLE is "unethical" when they = buy boots?? Well I don't know! To me this sounds like this old "I am a = better fan than you are", "we might be doing the same thing, but since I = am a *devoted* fan it's "ethical", you're doing the same thing...but = it's unethical". Come on now! What it all boils down to in the end is = that Melissa won't earn a single penny off either purchase!! She = couldn't care less if you are devoted fan or not!! I really don't see = where there should be a place for "ethical" and "unethical" in this = whole discussion.=20 I really don't have a problem with buying boots. I don't feel bad, I = don't even feel that I am doing something illegal. Over here in record = stores you'll find boots and officially released albums standing = peacefully next to each other. When I found an album which had the MTV = unplugged on it, I went, wow, great, so they finally released it!!! Well = of course they didn't, it's a boot. But still....personally I do believe = that boots won't harm an artist in the long run. Why do people buy = boots?? Out of ignorance because they don't read the label carefully? = Because they simply collect everything they can find of that artist? = Because some artists are simply great live performers and a live boot, = even if the quality in some cases is not that good, is still worth the = money? And btw the boots I own have not cost me more than one of the = officially released albums and I bought them all in your regular record = store! Even if somebody buys a boot "by accident", well, maybe they like = it so much that they go for the official albums too. So what goes around = comes around...even for the artist in the end. But would I buy "fan = items" that single people are trying to sell for their own personal = profit..like autographs, signed t-shirt or CDs, t-shirts, caps and stuff = that are sold outside a venue and that are NOT part of the official MLE = merchandising??? NO! A time ago there was a discussion on the = merchandising MLE does thru M.E.I.N. and some people were "complaining" = that Melissa has turned "commercial" now. Actually I am glad she does = that. So if she can make additional money on officially released = merchandise, good for her I say!! Martina=00=00 ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #378 ******************************* From: etheridge-digest To: etheridge-digest@esosoft.com Subject: etheridge-digest V1 #379 Date: March 1, 1998 2:57 AM etheridge-digest Sunday, March 1 1998 Volume 01 : Number 379 *etheridge* Sting & Melissa, I'm anal-retentive, etc... [Mike Lieman ] Re: *etheridge* (NMEC) Grammys - "soy bomb" [Trace ] *etheridge* Before They Were Rock Stars [JRinella ] *etheridge* B 4 THEY WERE ROCK STARS [KUKULSKI ] Re: *etheridge* Before They Were Rock Stars [Rhondda Ashby ] *etheridge* A request for all the European MLE-fans [Satsanga Subject: *etheridge* Sting & Melissa, I'm anal-retentive, etc... At 03:54 AM 2/27/98 -0700, you wrote: >Re: sting and melissa >Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:04:04 -0500 (EST) >From: Saninuj Malayaman >Subject: *etheridge* sting and melissa > ><< Does anyone know where I can find a live version of Sting and Melissa > Etheridge singing "Every Breath You Take?" >> > >In resonse, if you are more of a Sting fan, you can also try to find >these boots "King of New Jersey" and "Meadowlands of Gold" FWIW: Sting opened for the Grateful Dead[1] Beacuse of the Grateful Dead's stance on Taping[2] very fine recordings of sting's opening set for them in 1993 should exist. Here's a list of those shows: ( I suspect the King and Meadowlands "BOOTLEGS" are from the Giant's Stadim shows ) 05/14/1993 Sam Boyd SIlver Bowl, U.N.L.V., Las Vagas, NV 05/15/1993 "" "" "" "" 05/16/1993 "" "" "" "" 06/05/1993 Giant's Stadium. East Rutherford, NJ 06/06/1993 Giant's Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 06/11/1993 Buckeye Lake Music Center, Hebron, OH 06/13/1993 Rich Stadium, Orchard Park, NY I *may* have the Rich Stadium, but I'm really slow in trading... peace Mike - ----- Footnotes ----- [1] I Miss Jerry. [2] Advocated NON-COMMERCIAL, HOME-USE ONLY Taping.[3] I think it's the BEST way to get the Grass-Roots fan base to "critical mass", and keep them hooked. You can look at the numbers from reports from Pollstar, etc, and make up your own mind. [3] Designated the area directly behind the soundboard as the "Taper's Section", and sold tickets to this section, with the additional provision that Audio Recording Only Is Permitted For Non-Commercial, Home-Use Only. (The most consise legal statement I've ever seen). It *MEANS* that I am a joint copyright owner of my tapes(NOT BOOTLEGS!). (I guess I *DO* get some recognition for all effort and work it actually took[4].) As long as it's for non-commercial use in your house, distribution is ok. It can be distributed to friends, and friends of friends. The are no grey issues here. They're at this footnote[5] [4] It's *kinda* like recording a symphony (from the equipment needs standpoint, BUT, you have to CARRY everything in, there's no electrical power provided, and you have to fit everthing into the seats (Not necessarily a trivial thing; my microphone stand usually gets it's own ticket so there's pleanty of room!)), but a lot more fun! (IMHO, YMMV) [5] Here are the grey issues: I've only discussed legal issues, so far. Here are the moral issues. There are two different problems here... (actually, 3, if you consider the issue of "what about stealth taping a show yourself?") The first is "Recordings produced legally for non-commercial use are being used in ways that violate their license. Is collecting these recordings wrong?" (This *may* be the case with the Sting Bootlegs) Clearly yes. You should neither sell, nor buy, copies of recordings where the performer gives their blessing to recording, and non-commercial distribution. (GD, Allman Brother's Band, Dave Matthew's Band, Blues Traveler, Widespread Panic, Pearl Jam, Metallica, etc...) This is very, very bad. The second is "Recordings exist of artists who do not license the music for non-commercial, home use. They are available for purchase in the marketplace, and for free by trading with friends (and acquaintances). Is collecting these recording wrong? My Opinion? I don't think it's wrong to do it if no money's changing hands. If it's a hobby, it's (morally) ok, if it's your business, then you're ripping off the artist, management, and customer, and karma will take care of you. ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 13:25:52 -0500 From: Trace Subject: *etheridge* Is it or isn't it. . . duh! Mike Lieman wrote, in part, in an attempt to justify bootlegging. . . > The second is "Recordings exist of artists who do not license the > music for > non-commercial, home use. They are available for purchase in the > marketplace, and for free by trading with friends (and > acquaintances). Is > collecting these recording wrong? My Opinion? I don't think it's > wrong to > do it if no money's changing hands. So, ownership/exchange/creation/use of illegal items is okay so long as no money changes hands? Okay, folks, I got two tons of methamphetamines I cooked up in my basement, but I'm giving it away for free. Don't call the cops, after all it must be okay, I'm not making money off of it. Trace, injecting sarcasm to avoid going completely psycho-lawyer-ballistic over this one > If it's a hobby, it's (morally) ok, if > it's your business, then you're ripping off the artist, management, > and > customer, and karma will take care of you. > > ****************************************************************** > To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: > "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format > "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format > Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ > ****************************************************************** - -- =============== Please Note My New E-Mail Address! =============== ** Trace * thack22@voicenet.com * totallytrue@hotmail.com ** The House of Trace * http://members.aol.com/Thack22 The Vegetarian Gourmand * http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/7278 ================================================================== ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 13:31:32 -0500 From: Trace Subject: Re: *etheridge* (NMEC) Grammys - "soy bomb" Rhondda Ashby wrote: > has anyone figured out the significance of "soy bomb" anyway? or > was it just some lunatic clamoring for attention? Both. The guy actually managed to get himself a spot on MTV on Thursday, during their "Live" show (so does that mean that MTV is admitting that the rest of their programming is pre-taped now?) and explained that soy was organic and life giving and meant "I am" in Spanish, and bomb meant mass explosion, so he was attempting to characterize the "mass explosion of being that I am" or some such. Within the first ten minutes of the interview (which Mr. Bomb gave wearing two fake moles with four-inch hairs on his face, and a feather boa) he admitted that he's the lead singer of an "avant-garde rock band" and at that point I turned it off. Not only a kook, a kook who had no purpose in doing what he did beyond using an icon of rock to get exposure for himself. And then, like ODB from Wu Tang, he offered a very self-serving apology for what he did to Bob Dylan, then followed it two seconds later with "But I don't like Bob Dylan or his music." Whatever. Trace, who was severely disappointed with the grammys and prays that they get back to showing more diversity in music and more than seven awards next year, and look into the concept of stage security! ** Trace * thack22@voicenet.com * totallytrue@hotmail.com ** ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 16:41:23 -0500 From: JRinella Subject: *etheridge* Before They Were Rock Stars I just wanted to let everyone know that Melissa is indeed in the VH-1 special Before They Were Rock Stars. Melissa is the second artist they talk about. She is on right after Alanis Morrisette. The piece they do on her is only a few minutes long but at least it is something. Check your local listings but I know VH-1 is showing it Sat at 9 pm EST and Sunday 9am and 3 pm EST. She is not listed in the description as being one of the artists but she is. Jen (who is now going back to lurking) ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 17:21:48 EST From: KUKULSKI Subject: *etheridge* B 4 THEY WERE ROCK STARS Hi everyone ~ just wanted to make all aware that VH-1 did indeed include Melissa on the show titled, "Before They Were Rock Stars". I was fortunate enough to catch it this afternoon. All artists had approximately 4-5 minute segments .... but nevertheless they did include er'! It will again be repeated tonite at 9pm {eastern} .... check your tv guilds. ~KAY~ PS. For all that are expecting their cd's from me ..... I will be sending them all out on Tuesday evening. Thanx for all of your super cool trades! ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: Rhondda Ashby Subject: Re: *etheridge* Before They Were Rock Stars JRinella wrote: > > I just wanted to let everyone know that Melissa is indeed in the VH-1 > special Before They Were Rock Stars. Melissa is the second artist they > talk about. She is on right after Alanis Morrisette. The piece they do > on her is only a few minutes long but at least it is something. Check > your local listings but I know VH-1 is showing it Sat at 9 pm EST and > Sunday 9am and 3 pm EST. She is not listed in the description as being > one of the artists but she is. cool! i'm glad that MLE made it into the special after all. fyi, i checked my online TV guide at "the gate" (http://www.sfgate.com), and found the following schedule for the SF bay area (or at least my little corner of it ): > Before They Were Rock Stars > Sunday, March 1, 1998 - 3:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > PROGRAM: Music Special (60 Minutes) > > Early footage of musicians includes Alanis Morrisette, Sheryl Crow > and Mick Jagger. > > Future Showing Times: > 1. Saturday, February 28, 1998 - 9:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > 2. Sunday, March 1, 1998 - 3:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > 3. Monday, March 2, 1998 - 6:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > 4. Tuesday, March 3, 1998 - 9:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > 5. Friday, March 6, 1998 - 11:00 AM - Channel 48 VH1 > 6. Friday, March 6, 1998 - 11:00 PM - Channel 48 VH1 > 7. Thursday, March 12, 1998 - 12:00 AM - Channel 48 VH1 of course, please verify your local listings! :-) *rhondda* _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:51:58 PST From: "Bonnie Phillips" Subject: *etheridge* movie music/boots Jenniffer Smith wrote: >jen -- who thinks that DWS would've fit nicely as background music in >both the scene where Will's friend discovers On behalf of those of us who haven't seen the movie yet, I thank you. :-) (Hey, I only saw "Titanic" this evening). Vegashill wrote: >movie "Good Will Hunting" is wonderful....Anything with a ME song is >wonderful!!! :) Apparently you haven't seen "Teresa's Tattoo". :-) Martina wrote: >Hmmm, so someone who's not a devoted fan of MLE is "unethical" when they = >buy boots?? Well I don't know! "Unethical" may not be the best word. However that doesn't change that there are *some* people who get a bootleg and then don't buy any of the artist's commercial releases. I would think that these people are in the minority of the bootleg obtainers. I also think (oh no, 2 thoughts in one day) that these same people would probably get tapes more often than CDs but that's not relevant to the discussion. >it's unethical". Come on now! What it all boils down to in the end is >that Melissa won't earn a single penny off either purchase!! Bingo! >don't even feel that I am doing something illegal. Over here in record = >stores you'll find boots and officially released albums standing = >peacefully next to each other. And sometimes here too. >money? And btw the boots I own have not cost me more than one of the = >officially released albums Either your bootlegs are awfully cheap or your regular CDs are awfully expensive. Bonnie "If you have to be handcuffed to somebody, Pierce Brosnan is a pretty good choice." (Michelle Yeoh) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 02:22:09 +0100 From: Satsanga Subject: *etheridge* A request for all the European MLE-fans Hi all, In my last mail i told you about some rumor that Melissa would appear on the Gay Games in Amsterdam in August. Another lister (hi Tan :) joined me to get to the bottom of this, because we simply think that Melissa should be there... Now, we both have some contacts in and around the organization of the Gay Games and so far we found out that Melissa was indeed asked that question (!), but from what we heard she has not rejected it, but was it a matter of 'things fitting into her schedule'. This Monday one of our contacts will approach Bill Leopold at Mojo Concerts (who arranges Melissa's concerts in Holland) and we hope to hear more about the status of it all. In the time being Tan and I want to 'mobilize' the European fans (especially the Dutch, Belgian and German fans) and ask all of you to contact us, because we need your help with this. We want to make it very clear to the 'big shots' and of course to Melissa and her management, that her fans really want to see her in August! So, please help us out! You want to see Lady Etheridge singing on the Dam too, now don't you?! ;-) Email me privately and i will fill you in on the details: claudia.mulder@tip.nl or CE.Mulder@wa.dhv.nl I can also be reached thru ICQ or IM (see below). Satsanga - -- "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?" ICQ: 5793629 / 7146698 - AOL IM: Satsis12 / SatsAtWork http://www.tip.nl/users/claudia.mulder ****************************************************************** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@esosoft.com with: "unsubscribe etheridge" if you are on the bounce format "unsubscribe etheridge-digest" if you are on the digest format Official list web site: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ ****************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of etheridge-digest V1 #379 *******************************